F-104S - Revision history

U31139476: Undo revision 186323 by U42416657 (talk)

2024-05-16T13:48:36Z

Undo revision 186323 by U42416657 (talk)

U42416657: The F-104S' RWR does not pick up any of the soviet radars. Added to cons

2024-05-14T10:01:03Z

The F-104S' RWR does not pick up any of the soviet radars. Added to cons

U12017485: typo

2024-02-23T14:15:30Z

typo

U38088265: /* Description */

2023-09-25T08:33:20Z

‎Description

U48664895: Updated the description to new format

2023-09-25T01:11:20Z

Updated the description to new format

U38088265: /* Suspended armament */ Updated

2023-06-18T08:52:48Z

‎Suspended armament: Updated

U50176945 at 11:01, 15 May 2023

2023-05-15T11:01:42Z

U50176945: removal of a part of the pros and cons, the engine of the F-104S is not hot and if we compare with other planes, and also has a good amount of countermeasures to mitigate the problem of IR missiles

2023-05-15T10:53:52Z

removal of a part of the pros and cons, the engine of the F-104S is not hot and if we compare with other planes, and also has a good amount of countermeasures to mitigate the problem of IR missiles

U132382093: /* Pros and cons */

2023-05-05T00:23:29Z

‎Pros and cons

U38088265: /* Engine performance */

2023-01-10T15:38:27Z

‎Engine performance

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 {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
 {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
 * 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon (750 rpg)
 * 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
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 * Only 750 rounds of cannon ammo, trigger discipline is a must
 * No air-to-ground missiles
 * Despite being the fastest variant of the F-104, many planes in uptiers can follow and outrun the F-104
 ** And also being the heaviest and least manoeuvrable variant of all F-104s

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 {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
 {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
 * 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon (750 rpg)
 * 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
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 * Only 750 rounds of cannon ammo, trigger discipline is a must
 * No air-to-ground missiles
 * Despite being the fastest variant of the F-104, many planes in uptiers can follow and outrun the F-104
 ** And also being the heaviest and least manoeuvrable variant of all F-104s

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 * No air-to-ground missiles
 * Despite being the fastest variant of the F-104, many planes in uptiers can follow and outrun the F-104
-** And also being the heaviest and least maneuverable variant of all F-104s
+** And also being the heaviest and least manoeuvrable variant of all F-104s
 == History ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The F-104S would be one of the most capable Starfighter variants ever built. The F-104S would receive Sparrow missiles, the NASARR R-21G/H radar, more hardpoints, and other airframe improvements. It was essentially an evolution in the F-104G. Fat would take charge of producing the new Starfighter variant with the help of some companies Alfa Romeo and Selenia. The first F-104S would take flight in late 1968, and Fiat would build over 200 F-104S Starfighters by 1979. Around 40 F-104S aircraft were exported to Turkey which continued using them till the mid-1990s This would also mark the end of Starfighter’s production run as more advanced planes replaced it.
+The F-104S would be one of the most capable Starfighter variants ever built. The F-104S would receive Sparrow missiles, the NASARR R-21G/H radar, more hardpoints, and other airframe improvements. It was essentially an evolution in the F-104G. Fiat would take charge of producing the new Starfighter variant with the help of Alfa Romeo and Selenia. The first F-104S would take flight in late 1968, and Fiat would build over 200 F-104S Starfighters by 1979. Around 40 F-104S aircraft were exported to Turkey which continued using them until the mid-1990s. This would also mark the end of the Starfighter's production run as more advanced planes replaced it.
 Introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]], the '''{{Specs|name}}''' is an Italian supersonic interceptor based on the American [[F-104 (Family)|Lockheed F-104 "Starfighter"]] series. The external appearance is much the same besides the additional ventral fins, but as the final variant of the Starfighter family, it boasts the best speed and payload capacity of any F-104. It can be used as a high-speed ground attacker with a sizeable load of assorted bombs and rockets. Alternatively, it can be a deadly interceptor if equipped with air-to-air missiles. Unique among Starfighters is its ability to carry a pair of AIM-7E Sparrow semi-active radar homing missiles, the same variant used by the [[F-4E Phantom II]]. However, players should take note that equipping Sparrow missiles requires the removal of the M61 Vulcan.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]].
+The F-104S would be one of the most capable Starfighter variants ever built. The F-104S would receive Sparrow missiles, the NASARR R-21G/H radar, more hardpoints, and other airframe improvements. It was essentially an evolution in the F-104G. Fat would take charge of producing the new Starfighter variant with the help of some companies Alfa Romeo and Selenia. The first F-104S would take flight in late 1968, and Fiat would build over 200 F-104S Starfighters by 1979. Around 40 F-104S aircraft were exported to Turkey which continued using them till the mid-1990s This would also mark the end of Starfighter’s production run as more advanced planes replaced it.
-The F-104S is an Italian supersonic interceptor based on the American [[F-104 (Family)|Lockheed F-104 "Starfighter"]] series. The external appearance is much the same besides the additional ventral fins, but as the final variant of the Starfighter family, it boasts the best speed and payload capacity of any F-104. It can be used as a high-speed ground attacker with a sizeable load of assorted bombs and rockets. Alternatively, it can be a deadly interceptor if equipped with air-to-air missiles. Unique among Starfighters is its ability to carry a pair of AIM-7E Sparrow semi-active radar homing missiles, the same variant used by the [[F-4E Phantom II]].
+Introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]], the '''{{Specs|name}}''' is an Italian supersonic interceptor based on the American [[F-104 (Family)|Lockheed F-104 "Starfighter"]] series. The external appearance is much the same besides the additional ventral fins, but as the final variant of the Starfighter family, it boasts the best speed and payload capacity of any F-104. It can be used as a high-speed ground attacker with a sizeable load of assorted bombs and rockets. Alternatively, it can be a deadly interceptor if equipped with air-to-air missiles. Unique among Starfighters is its ability to carry a pair of AIM-7E Sparrow semi-active radar homing missiles, the same variant used by the [[F-4E Phantom II]]. However, players should take note that equipping Sparrow missiles requires the removal of the M61 Vulcan.
 == General info ==
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 * Can carry a total of six potent AIM-9Js or four AIM-9J and two AIM-7E missiles
 * Has the ability to equip countermeasures like the F-104G and ASA, being extremely important at this rank for a F-104
 '''Cons:'''

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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
+The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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-| rowspan="14" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_F-104S.ASA.png]]</div>
+| rowspan="15" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_F-104S.ASA.png]]</div>
 |-
-! 20 mm M61A1 cannons (750 rpg)
+! [[M61A1 (20 mm)|20 mm M61A1]] cannons (750 rpg)
-| || || || || || 1 || || || ||
+| || || || || || 1* || || || ||
 |-
-! 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs
+! [[LDGP Mk 81 (250 lb)|250 lb LDGP Mk 81]] bombs
 | || 1 || 1 || 1 || || || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
 |-
-! 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs
+! [[LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|500 lb LDGP Mk 82]] bombs
 | || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
 |-
-! 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs
+! [[Mk 82 Snakeye (500 lb)|500 lb Mk 82 Snakeye]] bombs
 | || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
 |-
-! 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs
+! [[M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|750 lb M117 cone 45]] bombs
 | || || 1 || || 1 || || || 1 || ||
 |-
-! 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs
+! [[LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)|2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84]] bombs
 | || || || || 1 || || || || ||
 |-
-! BLU-1 incendiary bombs
+! [[BLU-1 incendiary]] bombs
 | || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
 |-
-! FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
+! [[FFAR Mighty Mouse]] rockets
 | || 19 || 19 || || || || || 19 || 19 ||
 |-
-! Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
+! [[Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP]] rockets
 | || 4 || || || || || || || 4 ||
 |-
-! AIM-7E Sparrow missiles
+! [[AIM-7E Sparrow]] missiles
-| || 1 || || || || || || || 1 ||
+| || 1* || || || || || || || 1* ||
 |-
-! AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
+! [[AIM-9B Sidewinder]] missiles
 | 1 || 1 || || 1 || || || 1 || || 1 || 1
 |-
-! AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles
+! [[AIM-9J Sidewinder]] missiles
 | 1 || 1 || || 1 || || || 1 || || 1 || 1
 |-
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 |-
 | colspan="12" | * AIM-7E Sparrow missiles cannot be equipped in conjunction with the 20 mm M61A1 cannon.
 |}
 == Usage in battles ==
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 '''Pros:'''
 * Excellent top speed even with some ordnance
 * Great rate of climb
 * Absurdly high rip speed of 1527Km/h and being possible reach that with a clean load

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 |-
 | colspan="2" | General Electric J79-GE-19 || 1
-| colspan="2" | 6,850 kg || colspan="3" | 562 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
+| colspan="2" | 6,850 kg || colspan="3" | 565 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
 |-
 ! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
-! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br>Weight
+! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Max Gross<br>Weight|Mass of the fully equipped aircraft with heaviest weapons load}}
 |-
 ! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
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 |-
 | 1,740 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
-| 7,710 kg || 8,621 kg || 9,506 kg || 9,718 kg || 24,000 kg
+| 7,722 kg || 8,645 kg || 9,543 kg || 9,758 kg || 13,110 kg
 |-
 ! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
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 |-
 ! Condition || 100% || WEP
-! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 32m fuel || MTOW
+! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 32m fuel || MGW
 |-
 | ''Stationary'' || 4,992 kgf || 7,688 kgf
-| 1.00 || 0.89 || 0.80 || 0.79 || 0.32
+| 1.00 || 0.89 || 0.80 || 0.79 || 0.59
 |-
-| ''Optimal'' || 5,044 kgf<br>(1,200 km/h) || 10,253 kgf<br>(1,200 km/h)
+| ''Optimal'' || 5,044 kgf<br>(1,200 - 1,400 km/h) || 10,253 kgf<br>(1,200 km/h)
-| 1.33 || 1.18 || 1.07 || 1.06 || 0.43
+| 1.33 || 1.18 || 1.07 || 1.05 || 0.78
 |-
 |}