DA (7.62 mm) - Revision history

U44629479: Edits

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U29532751: Added usage in Po-2M in the description

2022-11-01T22:53:47Z

Added usage in Po-2M in the description

U17577377: /* Vehicles equipped with this weapon */

2022-09-26T14:15:17Z

‎Vehicles equipped with this weapon

U44629479: Edits

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U28580205: Added description

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Added description

U28580205: /* External links */ Added Archive links to sources

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‎External links: Added Archive links to sources

U28580205: /* History */

2021-03-30T20:40:24Z

‎History

U28580205: Expanded on the DA's history with sources

2021-03-30T19:03:54Z

Expanded on the DA's history with sources

U64962917: Edits

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U52323453: Added history, needs factchecking.

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Added history, needs factchecking.

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 == Description ==
 <!--''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.''-->
-The '''7.62 mm DA''' is a Soviet aircraft machine gun. It sees use currently on two Soviet aircraft in the game, the TB-3M-17-32 and Po-2M.
+The '''7.62 mm DA''' is a Soviet aircraft machine gun.
 The DA was essentially a modified infantry DP machine gun to accommodate aircraft usage, including a much larger magazine for longer firing time. Both a single-mount and the twin-mount ''DA-2'' can be seen on the TB-3 bomber as well.
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 <references />
-;Bibliography:
+;Bibliography
 * Aranov, Evgeny. "The prewar experimental aircraft MGs of Vasily Degtyarev". ''Military Guns & Ammunition'', Mar. 2018, [https://www.quarryhs.co.uk/Degtyarev.pdf PDF link]. Accessed 30 Mar. 2021 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20210526122944/https://www.quarryhs.co.uk/Degtyarev.pdf Archive]).

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 == Description ==
 <!--''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.''-->
-The '''7.62 mm DA''' is a Soviet aircraft machine gun. It sees use currently on one Soviet aircraft in the game, the TB-3M-17-32.
+The '''7.62 mm DA''' is a Soviet aircraft machine gun. It sees use currently on two Soviet aircraft in the game, the TB-3M-17-32 and Po-2M.
 The DA was essentially a modified infantry DP machine gun to accommodate aircraft usage, including a much larger magazine for longer firing time. Both a single-mount and the twin-mount ''DA-2'' can be seen on the TB-3 bomber as well.
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 '''Pros:'''
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 '''Cons:'''
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 {{main|DT_(7.62_mm)#History|l1=History of the DP machine gun}}
-The '''DA''' (Дегтярёва авиационный, Degtyaryova Aviatsionny (Degtyaryov Aircraft); ДА) was a direct offshoot of the [[DT (7.62 mm)|Degtyaryov machine gun (DP)]] designed to be mounted onto aircraft. Compared to the DP machine gun, the DA had a pistol grip, a shorter butt stock, a bag underneath to capture shell casings, and a different pan magazine.<ref name="Heinz DA">Heinz 2000</ref> The pan magazine differed from the original by holding 63 rounds instead of 47, and was made less wide but taller by having the ammunition arranged in ascending three layers.<ref name="WilliamsFlyingGuns1"/>
+The '''DA''' (Дегтярёва авиационный, Degtyaryova Aviatsionny (Degtyaryov Aircraft); ДА) was a direct offshoot of the [[DT (7.62 mm)|Degtyaryov machine gun (DP)]] designed to be mounted onto aircraft. Compared to the DP machine gun, the DA had a pistol grip, a shorter butt stock, a bag underneath to capture shell casings, and a different pan magazine.<ref name="Heinz DA">Heinz 2000</ref> The pan magazine differed from the original by holding 63 rounds instead of 47, and was made less wide but taller by having the ammunition arranged in ascending three layers.<ref name="WilliamsFlyingGuns1" />
 [[File:TB-3 Turret Crew with DA-2 Machine Gun.jpg|x300px|right|thumb|none|DA-2 machine guns mounted on the TB-3 bomber.]]
-The DA was introduced in the late 1920s to the Soviet Union's air force.<ref name="WilliamsFlyingGuns1">Williams and Gustin 2003, pg. 27</ref><ref name="Aranov_DP">Aranov 2018</ref> Production ran until March 1930 up to 1,200 machine guns delivered.<ref name="Heinz DA"/>
+The DA was introduced in the late 1920s to the Soviet Union's air force.<ref name="WilliamsFlyingGuns1">Williams and Gustin 2003, pg. 27</ref><ref name="Aranov_DP">Aranov 2018</ref> Production ran until March 1930 up to 1,200 machine guns delivered.<ref name="Heinz DA" />
-Some of the Soviet's first service aircraft saw the DA machine gun mounted in flexible mounts, such as the Junkers H21.<ref name="WilliamsFlyingGuns2">Williams and Gustin 2003, pg. 113</ref> Another variation of the DA machine gun, the ''DA-2'', was also developed as a twin-combination version of the DA from 1930 onwards.<ref name="Heinz DA"/> This configuration can be seen on later Soviet planes such as the [[TB-3M-17-32|TB-3]] bomber.
+Some of the Soviet's first service aircraft saw the DA machine gun mounted in flexible mounts, such as the Junkers H21.<ref name="WilliamsFlyingGuns2">Williams and Gustin 2003, pg. 113</ref> Another variation of the DA machine gun, the ''DA-2'', was also developed as a twin-combination version of the DA from 1930 onwards.<ref name="Heinz DA" /> This configuration can be seen on later Soviet planes such as the [[TB-3M-17-32|TB-3]] bomber.
-However, the rate of fire of the DA machine gun (600 rounds per minute) was deemed unsatisfactory for its role in the Soviet air force. The magazine-fed system of the DA also means the machine gun is only useful as a defensive mount. As such in 1933, the DA machine gun basis was heavily modified into the ''DAS'' (Degtyaryov Aircraft Rapid-Fire), which only retained the gas operating system and barrel length from the DP machine gun. This machine gun had a fire rate of 1,200 RPM and could fire in a synchronized forward mount or in a defensive mount.<ref name="Aranov_DP"/>
+However, the rate of fire of the DA machine gun (600 rounds per minute) was deemed unsatisfactory for its role in the Soviet air force. The magazine-fed system of the DA also means the machine gun is only useful as a defensive mount. As such in 1933, the DA machine gun basis was heavily modified into the ''DAS'' (Degtyaryov Aircraft Rapid-Fire), which only retained the gas operating system and barrel length from the DP machine gun. This machine gun had a fire rate of 1,200 RPM and could fire in a synchronized forward mount or in a defensive mount.<ref name="Aranov_DP" />
-However, the DA and the DAS prototype were superseded by the [[ShKAS (7.62 mm)|ShKAS]] machine gun, which had a fire rate of 1,800 RPM despite the increased weight and technical compelxity.<ref name="Aranov_DP"/>
+However, the DA and the DAS prototype were superseded by the [[ShKAS (7.62 mm)|ShKAS]] machine gun, which had a fire rate of 1,800 RPM despite the increased weight and technical compelxity.<ref name="Aranov_DP" />
 == Media ==
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 === References ===
 ;Citations
 <references />
 ;Bibliography:
 * Aranov, Evgeny. "The prewar experimental aircraft MGs of Vasily Degtyarev". ''Military Guns & Ammunition'', Mar. 2018, [https://www.quarryhs.co.uk/Degtyarev.pdf PDF link]. Accessed 30 Mar. 2021 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20210526122944/https://www.quarryhs.co.uk/Degtyarev.pdf Archive]).
 * Heinz, Thomas. "DA 7.62mm machine gun". ''Russian Aviation Museum'', 05 May 2000, [http://ram-home.com/ram-old/mgun-da.html Website]. Accessed 30 Mar. 2021 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20210402170714/http://ram-home.com/ram-old/mgun-da.html Archive]).

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	* {{Specs-Link\|tb_3_m17_32}} (Defensive)		* {{Specs-Link\|tb_3_m17_32}} (Defensive)
		+	* {{Specs-Link\|po-2m}} (Defensive)

	== General info ==		== General info ==

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 ''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.''
-=== Available shells ===
+=== Available ammunition ===
-''Describe the shells that are available for the cannon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).''
+''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).''
 === Comparison with analogues ===
-''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns, that have firepower equal to these type of weapons.''
+''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.''
 == Usage in battles ==
-''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against the main opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.''
+''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.''
 === Pros and cons ===
-''Summarize and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.''
+''Summarise and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.''
 '''Pros:'''
+*
 '''Cons:'''
+*
 == History ==
-<!--''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of this weapon. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''-->
+<!-- ''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.'' -->
 {{main|DT_(7.62_mm)#History|l1=History of the DP machine gun}}
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 == Media ==
-''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''
+''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
 == See also ==
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 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.''-->
-;References:
 <references />

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 == Description ==
-''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.''
+<!--''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.''-->
 === Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===

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 ;Bibliography:
-* Aranov, Evgeny. "The prewar experimental aircraft MGs of Vasily Degtyarev". ''Military Guns & Ammunition'', Mar. 2018, [https://www.quarryhs.co.uk/Degtyarev.pdf PDF link]. Accessed 30 Mar. 2021.
+* Aranov, Evgeny. "The prewar experimental aircraft MGs of Vasily Degtyarev". ''Military Guns & Ammunition'', Mar. 2018, [https://www.quarryhs.co.uk/Degtyarev.pdf PDF link]. Accessed 30 Mar. 2021 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20210526122944/https://www.quarryhs.co.uk/Degtyarev.pdf Archive]).
-* Heinz, Thomas. "DA 7.62mm machine gun". ''Russian Aviation Museum'', 05 May 2000, [http://ram-home.com/ram-old/mgun-da.html Website]. Accessed 30 Mar. 2021.
+* Heinz, Thomas. "DA 7.62mm machine gun". ''Russian Aviation Museum'', 05 May 2000, [http://ram-home.com/ram-old/mgun-da.html Website]. Accessed 30 Mar. 2021 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20210402170714/http://ram-home.com/ram-old/mgun-da.html Archive]).
 * Williams, Anthony G; Gustin, Emmanuel. ''Flying Guns World War I - Development of Aircraft Guns, Ammunition and Installations 1914-1932'', Airlife Publishing, 2003.

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	The '''DA''' (Дегтярёва авиационный, Degtyaryova Aviatsionny (Degtyaryov Aircraft); ДА) was a direct offshoot of the [[DT (7.62 mm)\|Degtyaryov machine gun (DP)]] designed to be mounted onto aircraft. Compared to the DP machine gun, the DA had a pistol grip, a shorter butt stock, a bag underneath to capture shell casings, and a different pan magazine.<ref name="Heinz DA">Heinz 2000</ref> The pan magazine differed from the original by holding 63 rounds instead of 47, and was made less wide but taller by having the ammunition arranged in ascending three layers.<ref name="WilliamsFlyingGuns1"/>		The '''DA''' (Дегтярёва авиационный, Degtyaryova Aviatsionny (Degtyaryov Aircraft); ДА) was a direct offshoot of the [[DT (7.62 mm)\|Degtyaryov machine gun (DP)]] designed to be mounted onto aircraft. Compared to the DP machine gun, the DA had a pistol grip, a shorter butt stock, a bag underneath to capture shell casings, and a different pan magazine.<ref name="Heinz DA">Heinz 2000</ref> The pan magazine differed from the original by holding 63 rounds instead of 47, and was made less wide but taller by having the ammunition arranged in ascending three layers.<ref name="WilliamsFlyingGuns1"/>
		+	[[File:TB-3 Turret Crew with DA-2 Machine Gun.jpg\|x300px\|right\|thumb\|none\|DA-2 machine guns mounted on the TB-3 bomber.]]

	The DA was introduced in the late 1920s to the Soviet Union's air force.<ref name="WilliamsFlyingGuns1">Williams and Gustin 2003, pg. 27</ref><ref name="Aranov_DP">Aranov 2018</ref> Production ran until March 1930 up to 1,200 machine guns delivered.<ref name="Heinz DA"/>		The DA was introduced in the late 1920s to the Soviet Union's air force.<ref name="WilliamsFlyingGuns1">Williams and Gustin 2003, pg. 27</ref><ref name="Aranov_DP">Aranov 2018</ref> Production ran until March 1930 up to 1,200 machine guns delivered.<ref name="Heinz DA"/>

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 === Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 <!-- ''List out vehicles that are equipped with the weapon.'' -->
 * {{Specs-Link|tb_3_m17_32}} (Defensive)
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 '''Pros:'''
+*
 '''Cons:'''
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 == History ==
-''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of this weapon. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''
+''The DA (Дегтярёва авиационный, Degtyaryova Aviatsionny; ДА) was a direct offshoot of the Degtyaryov machine gun (DP-28) and was designed to be mounted on aircraft and to be mounted on single and tandem gun mounts (DA-2), such as the configuration found on the TB-3, it was quickly replaced by the ShKAS as it was a better machine-gun platform for aircraft, proving more lethal and more reliable.''
 == Media ==
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 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
 * ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''
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 == External links ==
 ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''encyclopedia page on the weapon;''