Chi-He - Revision history

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 * [[File:Kingdom Hungary flag.png|30px|link=]] [[Turan I]]
 * [[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png|30px|link=]] [[M15/42]]
-* [[File:France flag.png|30px|link=]] [[AMC.35 (ACG.1)]]
+* [[File:France flag.png|30px|link=]] [[S.35]]
-* [[File:Britain flag.png|30px|link=]] [[Valentine I]]
+* [[File:Britain flag.png|30px|link=]] [[Crusader (Family)|Crusader]]
 * [[File:Sweden flag.png|30px|link=]] [[Lago I]]

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 == See also ==
-;[[Chi-He (Family)|Related Development]]
+;Related Development
 * [[Chi-Ha (Family)]] - <small>(Predecessor)</small>
 ** [[Chi-Ha Kai]]
-* [[Ho-I]] - <small>(Gun tank variant)</small>
+* [[Chi-He (Family)]]
-* [[Ka-Chi]] - <small>(Amphibious variant)</small>
+** [[Ho-I]] - <small>(Gun tank variant)</small>
 ;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
+* [[File:Czech flag.png|30px|link=]] [[File:Germany flag.png|30px|link=]] [[LT-38 (Family)|Pz.38(t)]]
-* [[Panzer III (Family)]] - <small>(Early models)</small>
+* [[File:Germany flag.png|30px|link=]] [[Pz.III (Disambiguation)|Pz.III (Family)]] - <small>(Early models)</small>
-* [[LT-38 (Family)]]
+* [[File:Kingdom Hungary flag.png|30px|link=]] [[Turan I]]
-* [[M15/42]]
+* [[File:Kingdom Italy flag.png|30px|link=]] [[M15/42]]
-* [[Lago I]]
+* [[File:France flag.png|30px|link=]] [[AMC.35 (ACG.1)]]
 == External links ==

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 |-
 ! ''Arcade''
-| rowspan="2" | 120 || rowspan="2" | -15°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Vertical || 13.33 || 18.45 || 22.40 || 24.77 || 26.35 || rowspan="2" | 4.29 || rowspan="2" | 3.80 || rowspan="2" | 3.50 || rowspan="2" | 3.30
+| rowspan="2" | 120 || rowspan="2" | -15°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Shoulder|up to 10 km/h}} || 13.3 || 18.4 || 22.4 || 24.8 || 26.4 || rowspan="2" | 4.29 || rowspan="2" | 3.80 || rowspan="2" | 3.50 || rowspan="2" | 3.30
 |-
 ! ''Realistic''
-| 8.33 || 9.80 || 11.90 || 13.16 || 14.00
+| 8.3 || 9.8 || 11.9 || 13.2 || 14.0
 |-
 |}

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 {{main|Type 1 (47 mm)}}
-Comparatively to other light/medium tanks at this battle rating, the 47 mm Type 1 gun is quite surprising with 77 mm of penetration at point-blank range and has a good reload speed. Plus, this fires APHE shells, which do great post-penetration damage. Comparatively, the [[20-K (45 mm)]] gun on Russian BR 1.0-2.7 tanks has only 62 mm of penetration in similar conditions. A top-mounted MG is really useful when dealing with unarmoured SPG and SPAA one might encounter at the battle rating.
+Comparatively to other light/medium tanks at this battle rating, the 47 mm Type 1 gun is quite surprising with 77 mm of penetration at point-blank range and has a good reload speed. Plus, this fires APHE shells, which do great post-penetration damage. Comparatively, the [[20-K (45 mm)]] gun on Russian BR 1.0-2.7 tanks has only 62 mm of penetration in similar conditions. Furthermore, a shoulder stabiliser allows for safer advances on enemy positions (although it is important to note that it only works at low speed). A top-mounted MG is really useful when dealing with unarmoured SPG and SPAA one might encounter at the battle rating.
 One thing to keep in mind compared to [[Chi-Ha Kai]] is that it still retains the same hand-cranked turret with additional 25 mm plates to improve the frontal armour to a max of 50 mm. This however slows down the turret rotations speeds due the added weight.

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' ({{Annotation|一式中戦車 「チへ」|Ichi-Shiki Chū-Sensha [Chi-He]}}) is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai"]] along with the initial Japanese Ground Forces Tree. Featuring a better armour, slightly better mobility with the same [[Type 1 (47 mm)|47 mm Type 1]] gun as its [[Chi-Ha Kai|Chi-Ha Kai]] predecessor, the Chi-He is an enjoyable tank to play in the early ranks of the game.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' ({{Annotation|一式中戦車 「チへ」|Ichi-Shiki Chū-Sensha [Chi-He]}}) was a tank designed to streamline the design of the [[Chi-Ha Kai|Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai]] and improve on armour and engine power. While the streamlining of the design featured welded armour instead of riveted armour, a 5th crew member and slightly more armour, the final design only weighed 1.5 tons more than the Chi-Ha Kai. Production only caught on in 1943 due to the Navy's priority in raw materials and all Chi-He's were reserved for the defence of the Home Islands. While the Chi-He did improve on the Chi-Ha Kai, it didn't improve enough to compete with the likes of a [[M4 Sherman (Family)|M4 Sherman]], and served its hull to build the [[Chi-Nu|Type 3 Chi-Nu]].
-This tank is the middle-range Japanese traditional design: there is no surprise but it gets just a bit better every time, as does the enemy. Do not change tactics and play just like with earlier vehicles: stick to allies and use mobility to get to the point with other fast vehicles. Use its good gun depression to hide behind hills and snipe enemies. With its good reverse speed, it can easily get out of nasty situations or hide quickly.
+It was introduced in [[Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai"]] along with the initial Japanese Ground Forces Tree.  Featuring better armour, slightly better mobility with the same [[Type 1 (47 mm)|47 mm Type 1]] gun as its [[Chi-Ha Kai|Chi-Ha Kai]] predecessor, the Chi-He is an enjoyable tank to play in the early ranks of the game. Stick to allies and use mobility to get to the point with other fast vehicles. Use its good gun depression to hide behind hills and snipe enemies. With its good reverse speed, it can easily get out of nasty situations or hide quickly.
 == General info ==

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 * Thin side armour means angling front armour could expose weak armour
-* 47 mm is not accurate in long distance fights
+* 47 mm gun is so inaccurate, to the point where it can barely be used past 500 meters.
 * Packed 5-men crew can lead to an easy knock out if penetrated
 * 50 mm front armour, poorly angled
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=jp_type_1_chi_he Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 == See also ==
 ;[[Chi-He (Family)|Related Development]]
 * [[Chi-Ha (Family)]] - <small>(Predecessor)</small>
 ** [[Chi-Ha Kai]]
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 ;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 * [[Panzer III (Family)]] - <small>(Early models)</small>
 * [[LT-38 (Family)]]

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 ==== Ammunition ====
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+{{:Type 1 (47 mm)/Ammunition|Type 1 APHE, Type 1 HE}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 {{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
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-There is nothing impressive here in terms of armour, the Chi-He features 50 mm, poorly angled, frontal armour. This is not the kind of plate that can take any punishment at the battle-rating, it will only bounce poorly aimed shots. The five-man crew inside makes the tank very survivable, leaving some room for mistakes. Side armour is vulnerable to heavy machine gun and auto-cannon fire, so beware flanking fast tanks.
+There is nothing impressive here in terms of armour, the Chi-He features 50 mm, poorly angled, frontal armour. This is not the kind of plate that can take any punishment at the battle rating, it will only bounce poorly aimed shots. The five-man crew inside makes the tank very survivable, leaving some room for mistakes. Side armour is vulnerable to heavy machine gun and autocannon fire, so beware flanking fast tanks.
 '''Armour Type:'''
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 | Turret || 25 + 25 mm (10°) ''Turret front'' <br> 50 mm (0-10°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 25 mm (10°) || 25 mm ''Turret rear'' <br> 50 mm (0-57°) ''Machine gun port'' || 12 mm
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-! Armour !! Sides !! Roof
+| Cupola || 50 mm || 50 mm || 50 mm || 12 mm
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 * Suspension wheels both 15 mm thick
 * Tracks are 20 mm thick.
-* Front of turret has bolted on 25 mm armor to total up to 50 mm thick as the rest of the front.
+* Front of turret has bolted on 25 mm armour to total up to 50 mm thick as the rest of the front.
 === Mobility ===
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 {{main|Type 1 (47 mm)}}
-Comparatively to other light/medium tanks at this battle-rating, the 47 mm Type 1 gun is quite surprising with 77 mm of penetration at point-blank range and has a good reload speed. Plus, this fires APHE shells, which do great post-penetration damage. Comparatively, the [[20-K (45 mm)]] gun on Russian BR 1.0-2.7 tanks has only 62 mm of penetration in similar conditions. A top-mounted MG is really useful when dealing with unarmored SPG and SPAA one might encounter at the battle-rating.
+Comparatively to other light/medium tanks at this battle rating, the 47 mm Type 1 gun is quite surprising with 77 mm of penetration at point-blank range and has a good reload speed. Plus, this fires APHE shells, which do great post-penetration damage. Comparatively, the [[20-K (45 mm)]] gun on Russian BR 1.0-2.7 tanks has only 62 mm of penetration in similar conditions. A top-mounted MG is really useful when dealing with unarmoured SPG and SPAA one might encounter at the battle rating.
-One thing to keep in mind compared to [[Chi-Ha Kai]] is that it still retains the same hand-cranked turret with additional 25 mm plates to improve the frontal armor to a max of 50 mm. This however slows down the turret rotations speeds due the added weight.
+One thing to keep in mind compared to [[Chi-Ha Kai]] is that it still retains the same hand-cranked turret with additional 25 mm plates to improve the frontal armour to a max of 50 mm. This however slows down the turret rotations speeds due the added weight.
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 [[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]
-Turret empty: 73&nbsp;''(+47)''
+* Turret empty: 73&nbsp;''(+47)'' shells.
 === Machine guns ===
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-As the successor of the Chi-Ha, the Chi-He has a redesigned hull with thicker armor, a more powerful engine and an up-armored turret from the Chi-Ha Kai, so the front is overall at 50 mm effective. This will result in a very similar play style as the Chi-Ha Kai with the added benefits of being an upgrade.
+As the successor of the Chi-Ha, the Chi-He has a redesigned hull with thicker armour, a more powerful engine and an up-armoured turret from the Chi-Ha Kai, so the front is overall at 50 mm effective. This will result in a very similar playstyle as the Chi-Ha Kai with the added benefits of being an upgrade.
-Unlike the [[Chi-Ha Kai|Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai]], the Type 1 Chi-He has some more armor and a stronger engine to rely on and it is able to brawl on its own with the fast fire rate. But as previously mentioned on [[Chi-He#Main armament|Main armament]], the Chi-He retains the same hand-cranked turret with additional armor, slowing down the already mediocre turning time by a slight amount.
+Unlike the [[Chi-Ha Kai|Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai]], the Type 1 Chi-He has some more armour and a stronger engine to rely on and it is able to brawl on its own with the fast rate of fire. But as previously mentioned on [[Chi-He#Main armament|Main armament]], the Chi-He retains the same hand-cranked turret with additional armour, slowing down the already mediocre turning time by a slight amount.
-Literally on top of armor and engine upgrades, the Chi-He gets an additional pintle point anti-aircraft machine gun, even though the [[Type 97 tank (7.7 mm)|Type 97 7.7 mm]] has a low clip capacity, it can prove useful for pinning enemy units and even getting hits to down enemy planes.
+Literally on top of armour and engine upgrades, the Chi-He gets an additional pintle point anti-aircraft machine gun, even though the [[Type 97 tank (7.7 mm)|Type 97 7.7 mm]] has a low clip capacity, it can prove useful for pinning enemy units and even getting hits to down enemy planes.
-The best practice for the Chi-He (and other WWII-era Japanese tanks) is to always point forward, the front armor has pre-angled sides, so angling only hurts your pre-angles and weaker side armor. It's not worth trying to get more out of the 50 mm frontal effective protection.
+The best practice for the Chi-He (and other WWII-era Japanese tanks) is to always point forward, the front armour has pre-angled sides, so angling only hurts your pre-angles and weaker side armour. It's not worth trying to get more out of the 50 mm frontal effective protection.
 '''Enemies worth noting:'''
-* B1 bis / ter: the B1 can easily destroy the Chi-Ha when using both of its guns, but when angling only the 47mm gun is available, meaning that the Chi-Ha can take some more hits. It is very hard to destroy the Char B1 from a distance, so get as close as possible with the ideal range being no more than 300m. Aim at their flat hull side, turret side, hull cannon mount or the driving compartment (the near-vertical frontal armor right below the turret). Upon penetrating, the Chi-Ha's 47mm APHE can knock out several crews, and your quick reload allows you to finish the rest off in time. However if the B1 has folded armor plates on their hull sides then it is a B1 ter, avoid shooting at its sides.
+* B1 bis / ter: the B1 can easily destroy the Chi-Ha when using both of its guns, but when angling only the 47 mm gun is available, meaning that the Chi-Ha can take some more hits. It is very hard to destroy the Char B1 from a distance, so get as close as possible with the ideal range being no more than 300 m. Aim at their flat hull side, turret side, hull cannon mount or the driving compartment (the near-vertical frontal armour right below the turret). Upon penetrating, the Chi-Ha's 47 mm APHE can knock out several crews, and your quick reload allows you to finish the rest off in time. However if the B1 has folded armour plates on their hull sides then it is a B1 ter, avoid shooting at its sides.
-* [[M4A3 (105)]]: This low-rank Sherman posts a huge threat to every of its opponents due to its superior armor and destructive firepower. Its armor is overall quite tough to penetrate with your small 47mm gun, but it can be solved by careful aiming. If the M4 is within 200m, shoot at the vertical part of its gun mantlet or its side if exposed. One penetration might not kill all the crew, however two are generally enough. If it's up close and hull down, try shooting at its gun barrel to disarm it, but one shot is not guaranteed to destroy the barrel. When the M4 is further than 400m away, all of your shells will perform poorly at penetrating its armor, so disengage or wait until it gets closer. Remember to not get hit by it, its HEAT is able to knock the Chi-He out with ease.
+* [[M4A3 (105)]]: This low-rank Sherman posts a huge threat to every of its opponents due to its superior armour and destructive firepower. Its armour is overall quite tough to penetrate with your small 47 mm gun, but it can be solved by careful aiming. If the M4 is within 200 m, shoot at the vertical part of its gun mantlet or its side if exposed. One penetration might not kill all the crew, however two are generally enough. If it's up close and hull down, try shooting at its gun barrel to disarm it, but one shot is not guaranteed to destroy the barrel. When the M4 is further than 400 m away, all of your shells will perform poorly at penetrating its armour, so disengage or wait until it gets closer. Remember to not get hit by it, its HEAT is able to knock the Chi-He out with ease.
 === Pros and cons ===

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 '''Pros:'''
-* Full frontal 50mm protection offers great protection against autocannons and weaker guns at a distance
+* 47 mm cannon can do some decent damage
-* Small size, can use certain spots most tanks can't
+* Small profile
-* 15 degrees of gun depression allows it to take many powerful hull down positions
+* Gunner supported stabilization, can take accurate shots at low speeds
-* Gun is versatile with serviceable penetration, consistent damage, good velocity and a high rate of fire
+* Top-mounted MG
-* Quite mobile, thanks to upgraded engine
+* Fast reverse speed (2 reverse gears)
 '''Cons:'''
-* Due to small size the tank can often by one shotted, even by relatively weak rounds.
+* Thin side armour means angling front armour could expose weak armour
-* Gun can struggle to penetrate most tanks in an uptier
+* 47 mm is not accurate in long distance fights
-* Lacks co-axial machine gun, it's machine guns are also weak, leaving it vulnerable to open top vehicles
+* Packed 5-men crew can lead to an easy knock out if penetrated
-* Armour isn't as reliable as it was on the Ho-I due to higher BR
+* 50 mm front armour, poorly angled
 == History ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=jp_type_1_chi_he Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 == See also ==
 ;[[Chi-He (Family)|Related Development]]
 * [[Chi-Ha (Family)]] - <small>(Predecessor)</small>
 ** [[Chi-Ha Kai]]
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 ;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 * [[Panzer III (Family)]] - <small>(Early models)</small>
 * [[LT-38 (Family)]]