Chi-Ha Short Gun - Revision history

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 The {{PAGENAME}}, designated the ''Short 12 cm Self-propelled artillery'' ({{Annotation|短十 二糎 自走砲|Tan Jū ni-senchimētoru Jisōhō}}) was a navy refit of the [[Chi-Ha Kai|Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai]] to make a similar gun tank as the Army's [[Ho-I|Type 2 Ho-I]] with greater firepower to support the Special Naval Landing Forces (SNLF).
-To get greater firepower than the Type 2 Ho-I, a naval short barrel 120 mm was chosen with an additional bespoke muzzle brake, the official designation of this 120 mm gun is unclear but may greatly be the [[wikipedia:12_cm/12_short_naval_gun?|12cm/12 short naval gun]]. Additionally, there was a small storage compartment added onto the back of the ShinHoTo Chi-Ha turret.
+To get greater firepower than the Type 2 Ho-I, a naval short barrel 120 mm was chosen with an additional bespoke muzzle brake, the official designation of this 120 mm gun is unclear but may greatly be the [[wikipedia:12_cm/12_short_naval_gun|12cm/12 short naval gun]]. Additionally, there was a small storage compartment added onto the back of the ShinHoTo Chi-Ha turret.
 === Combat usage ===

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 '''Armour type:'''
 * Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, turret, cupola)
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 * Familiar [[Chi-Ha (Family)|Chi-Ha]] chassis
-* {{Annotation|TEN-SECONDS|10.6s Expert; 10.0s Ace}} reload with a 120 mm cannon
+* {{Annotation|Ten-seconds|10.6s Expert; 10.0s Ace}} reload with a 120 mm cannon
 * Huge explosive mass for 120 mm HE shell means it can destroy every tank it faces via overpressure
 * Five crew members
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 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=jp_type_97_chi_ha_12cm Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 '''Armour type:'''
 * Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, turret, cupola)
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 * Familiar [[Chi-Ha (Family)|Chi-Ha]] chassis
-* {{Annotation|Ten-seconds|10.6s Expert; 10.0s Ace}} reload with a 120 mm cannon
+* {{Annotation|TEN-SECONDS|10.6s Expert; 10.0s Ace}} reload with a 120 mm cannon
 * Huge explosive mass for 120 mm HE shell means it can destroy every tank it faces via overpressure
 * Five crew members
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 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=jp_type_97_chi_ha_12cm Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}} / Short 12cm SPG''' ({{Annotation|短十二糎自走砲|Tan-Jūni Senchimētoru Ji Hashi-Hō}}) is a later iteration of the [[Chi-Ha]] with a modified turret coming from the [[Chi-Ha Kai]] bolstering a [[Navy short gun (120 mm)]] meant to defend naval bases and merchant ships in a multipurpose role. The Navy's modification of the Chi-Ha was meant to mimic the role of the Army's [[Ho-I]] tank to support infantry as a gun tank during the defense of the homeland.
+The '''{{Specs|name}} / Short 12cm SPG''' ({{Annotation|短十二糎自走砲|Tan-Jūni Senchimētoru Ji Hashi-Hō}}) is a later iteration of the [[Chi-Ha]] with a modified turret coming from the [[Chi-Ha Kai]], boasting a [[Navy short gun (120 mm)]] meant to defend naval bases and merchant ships in a multipurpose role. The Navy's modification of the Chi-Ha was meant to mimic the role of the Army's [[Ho-I]] tank to support infantry as a gun tank during the defense of the homeland.
-the {{PAGENAME}} was introduced along with the initial Japanese Ground Forces tree in [[Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai"]]. The {{Specs|name}} was made available as a pre-order [[wt:en/news/4379-japanese-pre-order-packs-en|premium pack]] as Type 97 Chi-Ha 12cm for the release of the Japanese ground tree. It packs with a relatively powerful 120 mm cannon that can destroy most enemies with one shot. However, it has a considerable reload rate of 10s aced, poor turret traverse and low shell velocity that make it hard to aim and fight with. It will be able to destroy the lightest targets with near misses, and will need some aim on more armoured targets trying to splash the explosive mass into the bottom or top armour of tanks.
+The {{PAGENAME}} was introduced along with the initial Japanese Ground Forces tree in [[Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai"]] as a pre-order [[wt:en/news/4379-japanese-pre-order-packs-en|premium pack]]. It packs a relatively powerful 120 mm cannon that can destroy most enemies with one shot. However, it has a considerable reload time of 10s aced, poor turret traverse, and low shell velocity that make it hard to aim and fight with. It will be able to destroy the lightest targets with near misses, and will need some aim on more armoured targets trying to splash the explosive mass into the bottom or top armour of tanks.
 == General info ==
 === Survivability and armour ===
 {{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
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+<!-- Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour. -->
 '''Armour type:'''

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 ==== Ammunition ====
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+{{:Navy short gun (120 mm)/Ammunition|Short Ordinary HE}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 ;Videos
-{{Youtube-gallery|VFEv4q3G5Us|'''Most unusual vehicles'''  discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 2:15  - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|grWpd6A4zbY|''What 120mm of Power is doing at 1.7 BR? - Chi-Ha Short Gun''' - ''HowToPlay1337''|y6ltVzo_ZAc|'''{{PAGENAME}} Tank Review''' - ''NUSensei''}}
+{{Youtube-gallery|VFEv4q3G5Us|'''Most unusual vehicles'''  discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 2:15  - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|grWpd6A4zbY|''What 120mm of Power is doing at 1.7 BR? - Chi-Ha Short Gun''' - ''HowToPlay1337''}}
 == See also ==

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 * [http://sakurasakujapan.web.fc2.com/main03/weaponjpngunshort12cm20cm/short12cm20cm.html Short 12cm/20cm Gun (JP)]
 {{Japan medium tanks}}
 {{Japan premium ground vehicles}}

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 The gun can only fire an HE round by default. However, the shell contains 2.64 kg of TNT equivalent, which is enough to cause a lethal overpressure damage against almost any enemy the tank has to face at its BR.
-It should be noted that while the shell is certainly powerful, it is not as powerful as the [[Ho-Ro]]'s 150 mm howitzer rounds. This means careful aim is still needed when facing a more well-armoured opponents. Against these targets, aim at any deflective angles that can cause the explosion effect to deflect on the weak hull roof.
+While the shell is certainly powerful, it is not as powerful as the [[Ho-Ro]]'s 150 mm howitzer rounds. This means careful aim is still needed when facing a more well-armoured opponents. Against these targets, aim at any deflective angles that can cause the explosion effect to deflect on the weak hull roof.
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-Note:
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 * Racks disappear after you've fired all shells in the rack.
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 Because the {{PAGENAME}} was designed for an infantry support role, its performance shows how tank combat wasn't put in mind for the vehicle. With awfully slow turret traverse and poor shell trajectory harming the tank's combat effectiveness. However, with each shell having 2.64 kg of TNT equivalent of explosives, it can easily deal overpressure damage against most tank it will face.
-Most lightly armoured vehicles and tanks with less than 30 mm of armour with will be able to be destroyed from either hull break or crew knock-out wherever you hit. But when you start opposing medium to heavy tanks, you should fall back for friendlies to deal with the target. It might be possible fire a shot to deal overpressure damage against weak hull roof, but it's a tricky shot and won't always deal a fatal blow on first hit.
+Most lightly-armoured vehicles and tanks with less than 30 mm of armour will be able to be destroyed from crew knock-out wherever you hit them. But when you start opposing medium to heavy tanks, you should fall back for friendlies to deal with the target. It might be possible fire a shot to deal overpressure damage against weak hull roof, but it's a tricky shot and won't always deal a fatal blow on first hit.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 The {{PAGENAME}}, designated the ''Short 12 cm Self-propelled artillery'' ({{Annotation|短十 二糎 自走砲|Tan Jū ni-senchimētoru Jisōhō}}) was a navy refit of the [[Chi-Ha Kai|Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai]] to make a similar gun tank as the Army's [[Ho-I|Type 2 Ho-I]] with greater firepower to support the Special Naval Landing Forces (SNLF).
-To get greater firepower than the Type 2 Ho-I, a naval short barrel 120 mm was chosen with an additional bespoke muzzle break, the official designation of this 120 mm gun is unclear but may greatly be the [[wikipedia:12_cm/12_short_naval_gun?|12cm/12 short naval gun]]. Additionally, there was a small storage compartment added onto the back of the ShinHoTo Chi-Ha turret.
+To get greater firepower than the Type 2 Ho-I, a naval short barrel 120 mm was chosen with an additional bespoke muzzle brake, the official designation of this 120 mm gun is unclear but may greatly be the [[wikipedia:12_cm/12_short_naval_gun?|12cm/12 short naval gun]]. Additionally, there was a small storage compartment added onto the back of the ShinHoTo Chi-Ha turret.
 === Combat usage ===
-The only certain information on this variant is that only a dozen or so vehicles were built and all were assigned to the Yokosuka No. 16 Special Land Battle Corps. The Chi-Ha's weren't the only vehicles assigned to this squadron and saw service next to the [[Ka-Mi|Type 2 ''Ka-Mi'']] and Type 3 ''Ka-Chi'' amphibious tanks.
+The only certain information on this variant is that only a dozen or so vehicles were built and all were assigned to the Yokosuka No. 16 Special Land Battle Corps. The Chi-Ha's weren't the only vehicles assigned to this squadron and saw service next to the Type 2 [[Ka-Mi]] and Type 3 [[Ka-Chi]] amphibious tanks.
 These vehicles would most likely have seen service in defense of the homeland next to the SNLF infantry. But in-case that these tanks would be required to move to forward islands, they would most likely be transport by [[Daihatsu-class Landing Craft]]'s just like the infantry accompanied and escorted by the Amphibious tanks during landings.
-There's only a handful of images of Chi-Ha 120 mm's, all being American and taken at the naval yard in Sasebo, Japan, October 1945. None of the vehicles survive today.
+There's only a handful of images of Chi-Ha 120 mm, all being American and taken at the naval yard in Sasebo, Japan, October 1945. None of the vehicles survive today.
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 File:Chi-Ha-120-Inspection.jpg|American Inspection
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+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=jp_type_97_chi_ha_12cm Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 ;Images