Charioteer Mk VII (Sweden) - Revision history

U167848475: /* History */ Added in basic history of the tank and primary source references.

2024-04-20T22:40:41Z

‎History: Added in basic history of the tank and primary source references.

U38088265: /* Main armament */

2024-04-14T11:06:31Z

‎Main armament

U28580205: Blanked history pending new text for Swedish/Finnish relevant text. Some other modifications

2023-04-11T04:42:45Z

Blanked history pending new text for Swedish/Finnish relevant text. Some other modifications

U134659303: Added Videos - One covering British version of the Charioteer another covering the Finnish version

2023-04-07T10:27:40Z

Added Videos - One covering British version of the Charioteer another covering the Finnish version

U134659303: Copied some of the text from the British Charioteer page and placed it under the Swedish page. Done in order to help fill out this swedish article. Please give all credit to whoever wrote the relevant section in the British article

2023-04-07T10:14:56Z

Copied some of the text from the British Charioteer page and placed it under the Swedish page. Done in order to help fill out this swedish article. Please give all credit to whoever wrote the relevant section in the British article

U134659303: Copied aspects of the British Charioteer page and placed it under the Swedish page. Done in order to help fill out the Swedish article. Please give all credit to whoever wrote the relevant section in the British article

2023-04-07T09:22:20Z

Copied aspects of the British Charioteer page and placed it under the Swedish page. Done in order to help fill out the Swedish article. Please give all credit to whoever wrote the relevant section in the British article

U134659303: Copied aspects of the British Charioteer page and placed it under the Swedish page. Done in order to help fill out the Swedish article. Please give all credit to whoever wrote the relevant section in the British article

2023-04-07T09:18:15Z

U134659303: Copied aspects from the British Charioteer page and placed it under the Swedish page. Done in order to help fill out this article. Please give all credit to whoever wrote the relevant section in the British article

2023-04-07T09:12:19Z

Copied aspects from the British Charioteer page and placed it under the Swedish page. Done in order to help fill out this article. Please give all credit to whoever wrote the relevant section in the British article

U134659303: /* Description */ Copied some of the text from the British Charioteer page and placed it under the Swedish page. Done in order to help fill out this swedish article. Please give all credit to whoever wrote the relevant section in the British article

2023-04-07T09:05:11Z

‎Description: Copied some of the text from the British Charioteer page and placed it under the Swedish page. Done in order to help fill out this swedish article. Please give all credit to whoever wrote the relevant section in the British article

U38088265 at 09:45, 16 February 2023

2023-02-16T09:45:58Z

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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''
+The Finnish Army bought 38 Charioteers; 3 in 1958 and a further 35 in 1960. They were removed from frontline service in 1972 but remained in use as training vehicles until 1980<ref>https://www.doria.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/172850/Ylijohdon_reservi-Petteri-Jouko.pdf</ref>. 15 were kept in storage until they were auctioned off in 2007.<ref>https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/vanhaa-panssarikalustoa-myyntiin/2002044#gs.891lka</ref>
 == Media ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=sw_charioteer_mk_7 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;British variant of the same vehicle
 * [[Charioteer Mk VII]]

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 <!-- ''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.'' -->
 {{main|20pdr OQF Mk.I (84 mm)}}
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 |-
 ! ''Arcade''
-| rowspan="2" | 25 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+10° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | - || 17.1 || 23.7 || 28.8 || 31.9 || 33.9 || rowspan="2" | 8.19 || rowspan="2" | 7.25 || rowspan="2" | 6.68 || rowspan="2" | 6.30
+| rowspan="2" | 25 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+10° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | - || 19.0 || 26.4 || 32.0 || 35.4 || 37.6 || rowspan="2" | 8.19 || rowspan="2" | 7.25 || rowspan="2" | 6.68 || rowspan="2" | 6.30
 |-
 ! ''Realistic''
-| 10.7 || 12.6 || 15.3 || 16.9 || 18.0
+| 11.9 || 14.0 || 17.0 || 18.8 || 20.0
 |-
 |}
 ==== Ammunition ====

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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
+''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''
 == Media ==
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 ;Videos
-{{Youtube-gallery|o8cbjw-Izo4|'''I Shouldn't Have Ignored This Tank: Charioteer Mk VII Tank Destroyer''' - ''Virus'' - |zB_2MdK3aIg|'''War Thunder First 10: Charioteer Mk VII (Finland)''' - ''Orangefan''}}
+{{Youtube-gallery|zB_2MdK3aIg|'''War Thunder First 10: Charioteer Mk VII (Finland)''' - ''Orangefan''}}
 == See also ==
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 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
-;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
+;British variant of the same vehicle
+* [[Charioteer Mk VII]]
 == External links ==

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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=sw_charioteer_mk_7 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 == See also ==

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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''
 == Media ==
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 * ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
-''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
-* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
+;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
-* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
 == External links ==
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 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.'' -->
-''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
-* ''topic on the official game forum;''
+* [[wikipedia:Charioteer_(tank)|[Wikipedia] Charioteer (tank)]]
-* ''other literature.''
+* [https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/UK/FV-4101_charioteer_tank_destroyer.php <nowiki>[Tanks Encyclopedia]</nowiki> Fv 401 Charioteer]
 {{Sweden medium tanks}}

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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
+The Charioteer, as with most western tank destroyer, is fitted with a very powerful gun, has good mobility, but is very lightly armoured. As such, it is best to play with its mobility to evade the enemy until the opportune moment. As it uses the same hull as a Cromwell, the reverse speed is atrocious that can make any withdrawal very hard once discovered by the enemy. It is recommended that the Charioteer be used with the forward movement more often, and back up by rotating the entire vehicle before whistling away since the armour back and front is inadequate to deal with any of the tanks you face at its battle rating.
 === Pros and cons ===
 <!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
 '''Pros:'''
-−
 '''Cons:'''
-−
 == History ==

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 {{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
 <!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' -->
-'''Armour type:''' <!-- The types of armour present on the vehicle and their general locations -->
+'''Armour type:'''
-<!-- Example: * Rolled homogeneous armour (Front, Side, Rear, Hull roof)
-* Cast homogeneous armour (Turret, Transmission area) -->
+* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, turret)
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 ! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 |-
-| Hull || ___ mm || ___ mm ''Top'' <br> ___ mm ''Bottom'' || ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
+| Hull || 63.5 mm ''Upper plate'' <br> 63.5 mm (spherical) ''Driver port'' <br> 32 mm ''obturated MG port'' <br> 30 mm (70°) ''Upper glacis'' <br> 57 (19°) ''Lower glacis - Top'' <br> 25.4 mm (65°) ''Lower glacis - Bottom'' || 44 mm ''Top - Front half'' <br> 38 mm + 32 mm (30°) ''Top - Rear half'' <br> 32 mm ''Bottom - Front half'' <br> 25.4 mm ''Bottom - Rear half'' || 32 mm ''Rear plate'' <br> 20 mm (58°) ''Lower glacis'' || 30 mm (20°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 20 mm ''Centre'' <br> 14 mm ''Rear''
 |-
-| Turret || ___ - ___ mm ''Turret front'' <br> ___ mm ''Gun mantlet'' || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
+| Turret || 30 mm (8-18°) ''Turret front'' <br> 20 mm (cylindrical) ''Gun mantlet'' <br> 14 mm ''Turret ring'' || 30 mm (1-18°) <br> 14 mm ''Turret ring'' || 30 mm <br> 14 mm ''Turret ring'' <br> 14 mm (69-75°)''Turret underside'' || 14 mm (0-7°)
 |-
 |}
-'''Notes:''' <!-- Any additional notes which the user needs to be aware of -->
+The few advantages of this vehicle are: internal shields (to ensure that at least one crew member survives) and its low ammo load (there are no huge ammo racks everywhere like with the Centurion). Another positive aspect is the presence of improved smoke launchers, equipped with 12 grenades shot in 2 salvos (one forward, one to the sides). They can create a smoke wall in seconds, hiding the Charioteer in an arc of about 200°. These smoke launchers are also found on later British tanks.
 === Mobility ===

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 == Description ==
-<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
+<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, they will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Fire and Ice"]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Fire and Ice"]]. The Charioteer takes the hull of a [[Cromwell V|Cromwell]] and replaces the turret with a larger one mounting the heavy-hitting [[Ordnance QF 20-pounder Mk.I (84 mm)|84 mm 20-pdr]] cannon, which can deal with the enemies it faces at Rank IV.
 == General info ==

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 {{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}
 <!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->
-{{tankMobility}}
+{{tankMobility|abMinHp=930|rbMinHp=531}}
 === Modifications and economy ===
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 <!-- ''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.'' -->
 {{main|20pdr OQF Mk.I (84 mm)}}
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 |-
 ! ''Arcade''
-| rowspan="2" | 25 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+10° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__
+| rowspan="2" | 25 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+10° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | - || 17.1 || 23.7 || 28.8 || 31.9 || 33.9 || rowspan="2" | 8.19 || rowspan="2" | 7.25 || rowspan="2" | 6.68 || rowspan="2" | 6.30
 |-
 ! ''Realistic''
-| __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
+| 10.7 || 12.6 || 15.3 || 16.9 || 18.0
 |-
 |}
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 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
-<!-- [[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]] -->
+[[File:Ammoracks_Charioteer_Mk_VII.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]
-<!-- '''Last updated:''' -->
+<!-- '''Last updated: 2.23.1.33''' -->
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 ! 2nd<br>rack empty
 ! 3rd<br>rack empty
 ! Visual<br>discrepancy
 |-
-| '''25''' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __
+| '''25''' || 21&nbsp;''(+4)'' || 11&nbsp;''(+14)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+24)'' || No
 |-
 |}
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 <!-- ''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.'' -->
 {{main|L3A1 (7.62 mm)}}
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 ! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
 |-
-| || ___ (___) || ___ || __° || __°
+| Coaxial || 5,000 (250) || 500 || - || -
 |-
 |}