Challenger DS - Revision history

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 <!-- ''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.'' -->
 {{main|L11A5 (120 mm)}}
 The Challenger bears the 120 mm L11A5, an updated but essentially identical version of the gun found on the Chieftains. It keeps the same ammunition as the Challenger Mk.2 and previous Chieftain Mk.10, making the ballistic performance identical. The L23 comes as the stock round with a significant armour penetration at the cost of reduced penetration angle. L23A1 has much better angle penetration at the cost of reduced armour penetration.
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 ==== Ammunition ====
-{{:L11A5 (120 mm)/Ammunition|Shot L23, Shell L31A7, Shot L23A1, L34}}
+{{:L11A5 (120 mm)/Ammunition|Shot L23A1, Shell L31A7, L26, L34}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
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 ! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
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-| Coaxial || 2,400 (200) || 600 || N/A || N/A
+| Coaxial || 2,400 (200) || 1,001 || - || -
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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The Challenger was introduced in 1983, as the new MBT for the British Army. While reliability and performance were debated during the Canadian Army Trophy of 1987, their action in Operation Desert Storm, also known as the Gulf War, gave them a chance to prove their worth. In this time, the British Army deployed the 1st Armoured Division in the Middle East with 3 Armoured Brigades equipped with Challenger tanks, some of which were the latest Mk.3 variant with new ERA installed. The Challengers had a good performance, dealing with several [[T-55A|T-55s]] and [[Type 69-IIa|Type 69s]] while not losing a single tank. A Challenger tank holds the record for the longest tank-to-tank kill, achieving a destruction at a range of 5.1 km in 1991.
+The Challenger was introduced in 1983, as the new MBT for the British Army. While reliability and performance were debated during the Canadian Army Trophy of 1987, their action in Operation Granby, the British contribution to the Gulf War, gave them a chance to prove their worth. In this time, the British Army deployed the 1st Armoured Division in the Middle East with 3 Armoured Brigades equipped with Challenger tanks, some of which were the latest Mk.3 variant with new ERA installed. The Challengers had a good performance, dealing with several [[T-55A|T-55s]] and [[Type 69-IIa|Type 69s]] while not losing a single tank. A Challenger tank holds the record for the longest tank-to-tank kill, achieving a destruction at a range of 5.1 km in 1991.
-It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]]. The '''Challenger Mk.3 Desert Storm''' is identical to the [[Challenger Mk.3]] found in the tech tree, the only difference is the visual discrepancy and the fact that it lacks ROMOR ERA in the sides of the vehicle. Compared to most Soviet and other NATO platforms, the Challenger is very heavy and quite slow; while it struggles to accelerate, it has a very good top speed and an excellent reverse speed. The cannon is a powerful 120 mm gun, with access to 1st generation thermals for the gunner, which means that it has a very competent armament for its BR.
+It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]]. The '''Challenger Mk.3 Desert Storm''' is identical to the [[Challenger Mk.3]] found in the tech tree, the only difference is the visual discrepancy and the fact that it lacks ROMOR-A ERA on the front of the vehicle. Compared to most Soviet and other NATO platforms, the Challenger is very heavy and quite slow; while it struggles to accelerate, it has a very good top speed and an excellent reverse speed. The cannon is a powerful 120 mm gun, with access to 1st generation thermals for the gunner, which means that it has a very competent armament for its BR.
 == General info ==
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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-After the introduction of Challenger in 1983 as the new MBT for the British Army in different units, there were debates on its reliability due to its inferior overall performance in the Canadian Army Trophy of 1987. As the Invasion of Kuwait by Iraq in 1990 and the subsequent Operation Desert Storm (Gulf War) began in 1991, the Challengers were given the chance to show their worth.
+After the introduction of Challenger in 1983 as the new MBT for the British Army in different units, there were debates on its reliability due to its inferior overall performance in the Canadian Army Trophy of 1987. As the Invasion of Kuwait by Iraq in 1990 and the subsequent Gulf War began in 1991, the Challengers were given the chance to show their worth.
-The British Army deployed the 1st Armoured Division to the Middle East alongside three armoured brigades with Challenger tanks, some even with the latest Mk.3 series with new ERA packages installed in Saudi Arabia by late 1990. After the deadline for complete withdrawal of Iraqi forces passed, the coalition started the assault on 17th January, 1991, after which the Challengers destroyed and captured hundreds of Iraqi tanks (ie. [[T-55A]], [[Type 69-IIa]]) while received no loss from enemy fire. Operation Desert Storm was where the Challenger held the world record of the longest tank-to-tank kill, done by the callsign of 11B from the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards, achieving a destruction at around 5.1 km away on 26th February, 1991.
+The British Army deployed the 1st Armoured Division to the Middle East alongside three armoured brigades with Challenger tanks, some even with the latest Mk.3 series with new ERA packages installed in Saudi Arabia by late 1990. After the deadline for complete withdrawal of Iraqi forces passed, the coalition started the assault on 17th January, 1991, after which the Challengers destroyed and captured hundreds of Iraqi tanks (ie. [[T-55A]], [[Type 69-IIa]]) while received no loss from enemy fire. Operation Granby was where the Challenger held the world record of the longest tank-to-tank kill, done by the callsign of 11B from the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards, achieving a destruction at around 5.1 km away on 26th February, 1991.
 The livery of Challenger DS belongs to a tank with a callsign Zero Charlie (ØC) of A Squadron to an unknown unit in British Army.

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 The Challenger was introduced in 1983, as the new MBT for the British Army. While reliability and performance were debated during the Canadian Army Trophy of 1987, their action in Operation Desert Storm, also known as the Gulf War, gave them a chance to prove their worth. In this time, the British Army deployed the 1st Armoured Division in the Middle East with 3 Armoured Brigades equipped with Challenger tanks, some of which were the latest Mk.3 variant with new ERA installed. The Challengers had a good performance, dealing with several [[T-55A|T-55s]] and [[Type 69-IIa|Type 69s]] while not losing a single tank. A Challenger tank holds the record for the longest tank-to-tank kill, achieving a destruction at a range of 5.1 km in 1991.
-It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is identical to the [[Challenger Mk.3]] found in the tech tree, the only difference is the visual discrepancy and the fact that it lacks ROMOR ERA in the sides of the vehicle. Compared to most Soviet and other NATO platforms, the Challenger is very heavy and quite slow; while it struggles to accelerate, it has a very good top speed and an excellent reverse speed. The cannon is a powerful 120 mm gun, with access to 1st generation thermals for the gunner, which means that it has a very competent armament for its BR.
+It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]]. The '''Challenger Mk.3 Desert Storm''' is identical to the [[Challenger Mk.3]] found in the tech tree, the only difference is the visual discrepancy and the fact that it lacks ROMOR ERA in the sides of the vehicle. Compared to most Soviet and other NATO platforms, the Challenger is very heavy and quite slow; while it struggles to accelerate, it has a very good top speed and an excellent reverse speed. The cannon is a powerful 120 mm gun, with access to 1st generation thermals for the gunner, which means that it has a very competent armament for its BR.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The Challenger was introduced in 1983, as the new MBT for the British Army. While reliability and performance were debated during the Canadian Army Trophy of 1987, their action in Operation Sand Storm, also known as the Gulf War, gave them a chance to prove their worth. In this time, the British Army deployed the 1st Armoured Division in the Middle East with 3 Armoured Brigades equipped with Challenger tanks. Some of which were the latest Mk.3 variant with new ERA Installed. The Challengers had a good performance, dealing with several [[T-55A]], [[Type 69-IIa]] while not losing a single tank. A Challenger tank holds the record for the longest tank to tank kill, achieving a destruction at 5.1 km of distance in 1991.
+The Challenger was introduced in 1983, as the new MBT for the British Army. While reliability and performance were debated during the Canadian Army Trophy of 1987, their action in Operation Desert Storm, also known as the Gulf War, gave them a chance to prove their worth. In this time, the British Army deployed the 1st Armoured Division in the Middle East with 3 Armoured Brigades equipped with Challenger tanks, some of which were the latest Mk.3 variant with new ERA installed. The Challengers had a good performance, dealing with several [[T-55A|T-55s]] and [[Type 69-IIa|Type 69s]] while not losing a single tank. A Challenger tank holds the record for the longest tank-to-tank kill, achieving a destruction at a range of 5.1 km in 1991.
-It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is identical tank to the Challenger Mk.3 found on the tech tree, the only difference is the visual discrepancy and the fact that it lacks ROMOR ERA in the sides of the vehicle. Compared to most Soviet and other NATO platforms, the Challenger is very heavy and quite slow, while it struggles to accelerate it has a very good top speed and an excellent reverse speed. The cannon is a powerful 120mm gun, with access to 1st generation thermals for the gunner, which means that it has a very competent armament for its BR.
+It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is identical to the [[Challenger Mk.3]] found in the tech tree, the only difference is the visual discrepancy and the fact that it lacks ROMOR ERA in the sides of the vehicle. Compared to most Soviet and other NATO platforms, the Challenger is very heavy and quite slow; while it struggles to accelerate, it has a very good top speed and an excellent reverse speed. The cannon is a powerful 120 mm gun, with access to 1st generation thermals for the gunner, which means that it has a very competent armament for its BR.
 == General info ==
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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-After the introduction of Challenger in 1983 as the new MBT for the British Army in different units, there were debates on its reliability due to its inferior overall performance in Canadian Army Trophy of 1987. As the Invasion of Kuwait by Iraq in 1990 and the subsequent Operation Sand Storm (Gulf War) began in 1991, the Challengers were given the chance to show their own worth.
+After the introduction of Challenger in 1983 as the new MBT for the British Army in different units, there were debates on its reliability due to its inferior overall performance in the Canadian Army Trophy of 1987. As the Invasion of Kuwait by Iraq in 1990 and the subsequent Operation Desert Storm (Gulf War) began in 1991, the Challengers were given the chance to show their worth.
-The British Army deployed the 1st Armoured Division to the Middle East alongside with 3 armoured brigades with Challenger tanks, some even with the latest Mk.3 series with new ERA packages installed in Saudi Arabia by late 1990. After the deadline for complete withdrawn of Iraqi forces passed, the coalition started the assault by 17th January, 1991 where the Challengers destroyed and captured hundreds of Iraqi tanks (ie. [[T-55A]], [[Type 69-IIa]]) while received no loss from enemy fire. Operation Desert Storm was where the Challenger held the world record of the longest tank-to-tank kill done by the callsign of 11B from the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards, achieving a destruction at around 5.1 km away on 26th February, 1991.
+The British Army deployed the 1st Armoured Division to the Middle East alongside three armoured brigades with Challenger tanks, some even with the latest Mk.3 series with new ERA packages installed in Saudi Arabia by late 1990. After the deadline for complete withdrawal of Iraqi forces passed, the coalition started the assault on 17th January, 1991, after which the Challengers destroyed and captured hundreds of Iraqi tanks (ie. [[T-55A]], [[Type 69-IIa]]) while received no loss from enemy fire. Operation Desert Storm was where the Challenger held the world record of the longest tank-to-tank kill, done by the callsign of 11B from the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards, achieving a destruction at around 5.1 km away on 26th February, 1991.
-The delivery of Challenger DS belongs to a tank with a callsign Zero Charlie (ØC; the Ø is in fact a slashed zero [0] instead of the oe sound in IPA) of A Squadron to an unknown unit in British Army.
+The livery of Challenger DS belongs to a tank with a callsign Zero Charlie (ØC) of A Squadron to an unknown unit in British Army.
 == Media ==
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 ;Related development
-* [[Challenger 2 (Family)]]
+* [[Challenger 1 (Family)]]
 == External links ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} British medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]].
+The Challenger was introduced in 1983, as the new MBT for the British Army. While reliability and performance were debated during the Canadian Army Trophy of 1987, their action in Operation Sand Storm, also known as the Gulf War, gave them a chance to prove their worth. In this time, the British Army deployed the 1st Armoured Division in the Middle East with 3 Armoured Brigades equipped with Challenger tanks. Some of which were the latest Mk.3 variant with new ERA Installed. The Challengers had a good performance, dealing with several [[T-55A]], [[Type 69-IIa]] while not losing a single tank. A Challenger tank holds the record for the longest tank to tank kill, achieving a destruction at 5.1 km of distance in 1991.
 == General info ==

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 While it is slower than Western MBTs at its BR, it is not a slow platform. It holds a fast top speed for both forward and reverse. Despite being a heavy vehicle, the brake distance is surprisingly low, between 20-30 m at top speed. It has the ability to do neutral steering relatively fast and, since it comes with all upgrades, it immediately gets the tracks modification which significantly improve this ability. It has little to medium impact when crossing muddy terrain, wet and snowy terrain, but nothing that impacts performance significantly. Thanks to not having the additional armour package, the cross-country capabilities of the Challenger DS are significantly increased, being able to easily traverse and cross over long trenches, deep craters and through steep terrains up to a certain level.
-{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,860|rbMinHp=1,061}}
+{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,886|rbMinHp=1,076}}
 === Modifications and economy ===

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 * Can be hard to penetrate hull down
 * Has a great reverse gear
 '''Cons:'''
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 * Driver's optic are huge which makes it a huge weak spot
 * Can be easily ammoracked
 == History ==

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 {{About
 | about = premium British MBT '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
-| usage = other versions
+| usage = other uses
-| link = Challenger 2 (Family)
+| link = Challenger (Disambiguation)
 }}
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