Challenger 2 (2F) - Revision history

U44629479: Edits

2024-05-14T17:20:22Z

Edits

U42773747: /* Pros and cons */ driver hatch is now only 29 mm cast RHA, so even light tanks can overpressure it now.

2024-05-04T10:00:05Z

‎Pros and cons: driver hatch is now only 29 mm cast RHA, so even light tanks can overpressure it now.

U42773747: /* Pros and cons */ going to differentiate between different Challengers 2 because there is so many...

2023-12-26T14:03:45Z

‎Pros and cons: going to differentiate between different Challengers 2 because there is so many...

U38088265: /* Description */

2023-09-07T13:09:23Z

‎Description

U74396666: Minor edits to my description

2023-09-04T04:43:10Z

Minor edits to my description

U74396666: New Description Project - Great Britain Priority: Tanks - Challenger 2 (Dorchester 2F)

2023-09-04T04:34:22Z

New Description Project - Great Britain Priority: Tanks - Challenger 2 (Dorchester 2F)

U38088265 at 23:19, 7 February 2023

2023-02-07T23:19:01Z

U38088265: /* Ammunition */ Converted to transclusion

2023-01-22T18:41:42Z

‎Ammunition: Converted to transclusion

U16429261: Changed the weight value in the table. Tank mass from 63.6 to 69 and AoA from 1.1 to 5, so it is the same as in game.

2023-01-10T10:35:59Z

Changed the weight value in the table. Tank mass from 63.6 to 69 and AoA from 1.1 to 5, so it is the same as in game.

U38088265: /* Ammo racks */

2022-10-18T21:29:56Z

‎Ammo racks

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 ==== Urban maps ====
-Brawling with the Challenger is now more plausible because of the 2F armour pack, although is not recommended to brawl in every scenario. Since the tank is heavier, taller and with more weak spots than many tanks in close ranges. Especially against enemies such as the [[T-90A]] or [[T-72B3]]. Both of these Soviet tanks are similar in speed to the Challenger, but their weak spots in frontal armour are harder to pinpoint than those on the Challenger. The brawling also creates an unsustainable situation against relentless adversaries such as the [[Leopard (Family)|Leopards]], [[T-80 (Family)|T-80]]<nowiki/>s or other various light tanks. Whenever possible, these fast vehicles will flank the Challenger 2. If CQB cannot be avoided, slight angling should be used to counter rounds. Players should attempt to draw attention to their turret or bait shots onto the Challenger 2s impenetrable turret cheeks, any experienced enemy player will quickly target the gun mantlet or driver's hatch. Challenger players should never attempt to endure in brawling with tanks as a [[Leopard 2A6]] or [[Ariete]], these tanks bring powerful rounds capable of nullifying any armour advantage of the Challenger on close ranges.
+Brawling with the Challenger is now more plausible because of the 2F armour pack, although is not recommended to brawl in every scenario. Since the tank is heavier, taller and with more weak spots than many tanks in close ranges. Especially against enemies such as the [[T-90A]] or [[T-72B3]]. Both of these Soviet tanks are similar in speed to the Challenger, but their weak spots in frontal armour are harder to pinpoint than those on the Challenger. The brawling also creates an unsustainable situation against relentless adversaries such as the [[Leopard 2 (Family)|Leopards 2]], [[T-80 (Family)|T-80s]] or other various light tanks. Whenever possible, these fast vehicles will flank the Challenger 2. If CQB cannot be avoided, slight angling should be used to counter rounds. Players should attempt to draw attention to their turret or bait shots onto the Challenger 2s impenetrable turret cheeks, any experienced enemy player will quickly target the gun mantlet or driver's hatch. Challenger players should never attempt to endure in brawling with tanks as a [[Leopard 2A6]] or [[Ariete]], these tanks bring powerful rounds capable of nullifying any armour advantage of the Challenger on close ranges.
 Anticipation, ambushing and camping tactics are important while in urban areas (guarding roads, crossroads or bridges). Moving up, taking a position, and waiting to see tanks or hear approaching engines is a viable strategy. Especially when going against Russian or American tanks, as their turbine engines give off that characteristic rotary whine.

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 ** Turret cheeks are invulnerable to all HEAT-FS and APFSDS, including the dreaded DM53 shell
 ** Inert turret ammo rack
 '''Cons:'''

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 * Effective side-ERA against air-to-ground missiles
-* Fast reload, particularly for a 120 mm (5 seconds aced)
+** Near impossible to damage with HEAT-FS and weak ATGM after installation of all of the rest of ERA
-* Sights with high zoom, 2nd generation thermals and a wide FOV
+* Retains the rest pros of the base tank:
-* High reverse of -40 km/h
+** Fast reload, particularly for a 120 mm (5 seconds aced)
-* The L30A1 120 mm gun is incredibly accurate, even at long range
+** Sights with high zoom, 2nd generation thermals and a wide FOV
-* Turret cheeks are invulnerable to all HEAT-FS and APFSDS, including the dreaded DM53 shell
+** High reverse of -40 km/h
 '''Cons:'''
-* Vulnerable commander's hatch and cannon breech
+* Retains cons of the base tank in general:
-* Accessible weak spots, especially the gun mantlet
+** Accessible weak spots, especially the gun mantlet
-* Dorchester 2F only marginally increases LFP armour against APFSDS
+** L27A1 has low penetration compared to other top rank NATO ammunition, armour is not good enought when fights against high ground
-* Dorchester 2F adds 1,100 kg of weight to an already sluggish tank
+** Dorchester 2F adds 1,100 kg of weight to an already sluggish tank
-* No CITV (Commander Independent Thermal Viewer)
+** No CITV (Commander Independent Thermal Viewer)
-* L27A1 has low penetration compared to other top rank NATO ammunition
+* Dorchester 2F only marginally increases LFP armour against APFSDS and autocannon tanks
 == History ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''FV4034 Challenger 2 (Dorchester 2F)''' is an urban modification of the standard variant of the [[Challenger 2 (Family)|FV4034 Challenger 2 main battle tank family]]. Within the British Ministry of Defence (MoD), Chobham refers to non-explosive reactive armour (NERA) and ceramic composites, whereas Dorchester refers to additional armour packages, primarily composed of explosive reactive armour (ERA) and spaced armour, though these are frequently interchanged when used colloquially. Dorchester Level 2 additional armour package is primarily used in urban warfare against rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs). ROMOR-A explosive reactive armour (ERA) components are included in the Dorchester 2F armour packages. The explosive reactive armour (ERA) tiles are installed on a frame, which is attached to the front hull. For protection against various portable anti-tank weapons, additional external composite armour is placed on both the turret and hull sides, as well as slat armour covering the rear parts of the hull and back of the turret.
+The '''FV4034 Challenger 2 (Dorchester Level 2F)''' is a modification of the [[Challenger 2]] designed to provide enhanced protection in urban combat. First deployed in Iraq in 2004 to counter rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs), the armour package provides an extra level of protection over the previous Dorchester Level 2E, featuring extra Chobham armour (non-explosive reactive armour (NERA) and ceramic composites), as well as ROMOR-A explosive reactive armour (ERA) on the front plates and Dorchester Level 2F blocks on the hull and sides. The ERA tiles are installed on a frame, which is attached to the front hull. For protection against various portable anti-tank weapons, additional external composite armour is placed on both the turret and hull sides, as well as slat armour covering the rear parts of the hull and back of the turret.
-Introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]], the Challenger 2 (2F) offers substantially better protection than the [[Challenger 2|standard Challenger 2]]. Certain small-caliber anti-tank high explosive (HEAT) ammunition, as well as some low-penetration anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs), can be easily resisted. It is crucial to note, however, that the Dorchester 2F extra armour packages are intended to defend against portable anti-tank weapons rather than modern, heavy anti-tank weapons. Another significant difference is that the mobility of the Challenger 2 (2F) is significantly lower than that of the standard Challenger 2, resulting in even more disadvantages when compared to other nations' main battle tanks. As a result, it is critical to be cautious when crossing open regions on the maps during matches and to keep an eye out for fast-flanking enemies.
+Introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]], the Challenger 2 (2F) offers substantially better protection than the [[Challenger 2|standard Challenger 2]]. Certain small-calibre anti-tank high explosive (HEAT) ammunition, as well as some low-penetration anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs), can be easily resisted. It is crucial to note, however, that the Dorchester 2F extra armour packages are intended to defend against portable anti-tank weapons rather than modern, heavy anti-tank weapons. Another significant difference is that the mobility of the Challenger 2 (2F) is significantly lower than that of the standard Challenger 2, resulting in even more disadvantages when compared to other nations' main battle tanks. As a result, it is critical to be cautious when crossing open regions on the maps during matches and to keep an eye out for fast-flanking enemies.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''FV4034 Challenger 2 (Dorchester 2F)''' is the urban modification of the standard variant of the [[Challenger 2 (Family)|FV4034 Challenger 2 main battle tank family]]. Within the British Ministry of Defence (MoD), Chobham refers to non-explosive reactive armour (NERA) and ceramic composites, whereas Dorchester refers to additional armour packages, primarily composed of explosive reactive armour (ERA) and spaced armour, though these are frequently interchanged when used colloquially. Dorchester Level 2 additional armour package is primarily used in urban warfare against rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs). ROMOR-A explosive reactive armour (ERA) components are included in the Dorchester 2F armour packages. The explosive reactive armour (ERA) tiles are installed on a frame, which is attached to the front hull. For protection against various portable anti-tank weapons, additional external composite armour is placed on both the turret and hull sides, as well as slat armour covering the rear parts of the hull and back of the turret.
+The '''FV4034 Challenger 2 (Dorchester 2F)''' is an urban modification of the standard variant of the [[Challenger 2 (Family)|FV4034 Challenger 2 main battle tank family]]. Within the British Ministry of Defence (MoD), Chobham refers to non-explosive reactive armour (NERA) and ceramic composites, whereas Dorchester refers to additional armour packages, primarily composed of explosive reactive armour (ERA) and spaced armour, though these are frequently interchanged when used colloquially. Dorchester Level 2 additional armour package is primarily used in urban warfare against rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs). ROMOR-A explosive reactive armour (ERA) components are included in the Dorchester 2F armour packages. The explosive reactive armour (ERA) tiles are installed on a frame, which is attached to the front hull. For protection against various portable anti-tank weapons, additional external composite armour is placed on both the turret and hull sides, as well as slat armour covering the rear parts of the hull and back of the turret.
 Introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]], the Challenger 2 (2F) offers substantially better protection than the [[Challenger 2|standard Challenger 2]]. Certain small-caliber anti-tank high explosive (HEAT) ammunition, as well as some low-penetration anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs), can be easily resisted. It is crucial to note, however, that the Dorchester 2F extra armour packages are intended to defend against portable anti-tank weapons rather than modern, heavy anti-tank weapons. Another significant difference is that the mobility of the Challenger 2 (2F) is significantly lower than that of the standard Challenger 2, resulting in even more disadvantages when compared to other nations' main battle tanks. As a result, it is critical to be cautious when crossing open regions on the maps during matches and to keep an eye out for fast-flanking enemies.

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 ==== Ammunition ====
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:L30A1 (120 mm)/Ammunition|Shot L23A1, L34, Shell L31A7, L26, L27A1}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 <!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->
-{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,886|rbMinHp=1,076|AoAweight=1.1|weight=63.6}}
+{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,886|rbMinHp=1,076|AoAweight=5|weight=69}}
 === Modifications and economy ===

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-[[File:Ammoracks_Challenger_2.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the Challenger 2]]
+[[File:Ammoracks_Challenger_2.png|right|thumb|x450px|[[Ammo racks]] of the Challenger 2]]
 * Projectile racks 8 and 9, and propellant rack 7, are first-stage ammo racks
-* Hull front empty: 38 ''(+12)''
+* Hull front empty: 39 ''(+11)''
 === Machine guns ===