CL-13A Mk 5 (Germany) - Revision history

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.39]].
+In 1949, Canada wanted a new fighter to supplement its growing air force. The F-86 Sabre was a good option, but the Canadian government didn't want to have another American aircraft in service. As a compromise, Canada received a license to build their own Sabres and thus birthed the Canadair Sabre. At first, they were essentially the same as the US F-86A. As development and production continued, Canadair Sabres were growing different and even had their own engine installed, the Avro Orenda jet engine. The Mk5 was powered by the Orenda 10, fitted with a new wing, and other aerodynamic changes. It was close to the US F-86F-30 in terms of performance. During this time, the German Luftwaffe was revived and also looked to purchase modern aircraft. Germany placed an order for over 200 Mk6 Sabres, but as a stop-gap measure, 75 ex-RCAF Mk5 Sabres were also supplied. Many of the Mk5 Sabres were scrapped in 1962.
 == General info ==
 === Flight performance ===

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 {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
-{{main|AN-M65A1 Fin M129 (1,000 lb)|HVAR}}
+{{main|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|AN-M65A1 Fin M129 (1,000 lb)|HVAR}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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 * Without load
 * 16 x HVAR rockets
 * 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)

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 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
 ;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

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 === The CL-13 Series ===
-The CL-13 series of aircraft were built by Canadair under licence from North American Aviation. These fighters would be operated by Canada until 1958, and a variety of other nations until much later, with the last variants being retired by the Pakistani Air Force in 1980. There were two major production runs of the aircraft. The first, the Mk. 2 and Mk. 4's with just under 1,000 built, were very similar to their US counterparts, with minor differences. The second run, the Mk. 5's and Mk. 6's of similar numbers, were patterned on the later versions North American Sabre, with larger wings for improved maneuverability. The major difference lay in the replacement of the General Electric J47 engine with the locally-designed more-powerful Avro Canada Orenda. The Mk. 6, with a more powerful two-stage version of the Orenda and improved control surfaces, is generally considered the best of all Sabre variants.
+The CL-13 series of aircraft were built by Canadair under licence from North American Aviation. These fighters would be operated by Canada until 1958, and a variety of other nations until much later, with the last variants being retired by the Pakistani Air Force in 1980. There were two major production runs of the aircraft. The first, the Mk. 2 and Mk. 4s with just under 1,000 built, were very similar to their US counterparts, with minor differences. The second run, the Mk. 5s and Mk. 6s of similar numbers, were patterned on the later versions North American Sabre, with larger wings for improved manoeuvrability. The major difference lay in the replacement of the General Electric J47 engine with the locally-designed more-powerful Avro Canada Orenda. The Mk. 6, with a more powerful two-stage version of the Orenda and improved control surfaces, is generally considered the best of all Sabre variants.
 === The CL-13 Mk. 5 ===
-On 30 July 1953, the first Sabre Mk.5 flew with the Orenda 10 engine, which gave it a clear rate of climb and ceiling advantage over earlier variants. This improvement was accompanied by a new oxygen system and superior maneuverability and low-speed characteristics achieved by increasing the wing chord by six in. (15.2 cm) at the root and three in. (7.2 cm) at the wing tip. The aircraft also made use of a small vertical wing  fence, a modification originated by North American on the F-86F, which dramatically improved maneuverability. Earlier variants of the CL-13 were equipped with leading edge wing slats that were removed in the Mk.5, leading to increased landing speed and considerably degraded low speed handling. The increase in engine power also came at the cost of range, a full 20 percent less than that of the F-86F. Canadair built 370 Mk. 5s with the majority designated to replace older Sabre variants in RCAF air squadrons.
+On 30 July 1953, the first Sabre Mk.5 flew with the Orenda 10 engine, which gave it a clear rate of climb and ceiling advantage over earlier variants. This improvement was accompanied by a new oxygen system and superior manoeuvrability and low-speed characteristics achieved by increasing the wing chord by six in. (15.2 cm) at the root and three in. (7.2 cm) at the wing tip. The aircraft also made use of a small vertical wing  fence, a modification originated by North American on the F-86F, which dramatically improved manoeuvrability. Earlier variants of the CL-13 were equipped with leading edge wing slats that were removed in the Mk.5, leading to increased landing speed and considerably degraded low speed handling. The increase in engine power also came at the cost of range, a full 20 percent less than that of the F-86F. Canadair built 370 Mk. 5s with the majority designated to replace older Sabre variants in RCAF air squadrons.
 === Service in the Luftwaffe ===

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 ! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
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-| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 590 || 550 || 350 || ~11 || ~6
+| 1,170 <!-- {{Specs|destruction|body}} --> || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 590 || 550 || 350 || ~11 || ~6
 |-
 |}
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 |-
 ! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
-! colspan="2" | Empty mass || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
+! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
 |-
-| colspan="2" | Avro Canada Orenda 10 ||  1
+| colspan="2" | Avro Canada Orenda 10 || 1
-| colspan="2" | 5,330 kg || colspan="2" | 235 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
+| colspan="2" | 5,432 kg || colspan="2" | 238 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
 |-
 ! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
-! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br />Weight
+! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br>Weight
 |-
 ! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
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 |-
 | 1,160 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
-| 5,716 kg || 6,412 kg || 6,626 kg || 9,530 kg
+| 5,817 kg || 6,487 kg || 6,716 kg || 9,530 kg
 |-
-! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
+! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
-! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (108%)
+! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
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 ! Condition || 100% || WEP
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 | ''Stationary'' || 2,818 kgf || N/A
-| 0.49 || 0.44 || 0.43 || 0.30
+| 0.48 || 0.43 || 0.42 || 0.30
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-| ''Optimal'' || 2,818 kgf<br />(0 km/h) || N/A
+| ''Optimal'' || 2,818 kgf<br>(0 km/h) || N/A
-| 0.49 || 0.44 || 0.43 || 0.30
+| 0.48 || 0.43 || 0.42 || 0.30
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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-Speed is everything. Reach around 1000 kph and then 10 to 20 degree climb then level out before dropping below 750 km/h IAS.
+Speed is everything. Reach around 1,000 km/h and then 10 to 20 degree climb then level out before dropping below 750 km/h IAS.
 Watch out for planes like F-86F-2 Sabres and Hunters. These two you'll see the most and they will see you as a big threat since you pretty much out-perform them in every aspect. Destroy them before they pose any threat to you.
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 The Mk.5's main pitfall is its lacklustre armament of six M3 machine guns. Often, sustained fire is the only way to down an enemy short of a pilot snipe. Snapshots will often result in a few hits and an enemy still very much in the fight. However, the high velocity and large ammo count makes accuracy a secondary concern. Pilots should not hesitate to douse their enemies in a hail of machine gun fire, as even a few hits can cripple the enemy and open them up for a second, fatal pass. Engaging in head-on passes with enemies sometimes leads to success owing to the velocity of the M3s, but pilots should be careful to start firing at significant distance and peel off before the 1.0 km mark to avoid enemy fire. Whilst dogfighting, the best shot of finishing engagements lies in exploiting the CL-13's energy superiority and forcing the enemy to bleed speed to the point where they are sitting ducks for your guns. This should not come at the cost of losing one's own speed, however, as the Mk. 5's high speed manoeuvrability falls off very quickly and can leave you as the sitting duck instead.
-===Radars===
+=== Radars ===
 <!--{{main|AN/APG-30}}-->
 The CL-13A Mk 5 is equipped with an AN/APG-30 rangefinding radar, located in the nose of the aircraft.

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 {{About
-|about=German jet fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
+|about= German jet fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
-|usage=other variants
+|usage= other versions
-|link=F-86 (Family)
+|link= F-86 (Family)
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 * Turn rate is very good (not better than F-86A-5/F-40 Sabre)
 * Very good climb rate against all jets
-* Better acceleration than most 9.0 jets, accelerating more than any other Sabre in game
+* Better acceleration than most jets at its BR, accelerating more than any other Sabre in game
 * All round aircraft (good at AB, RB, and SB)
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 * Low speed manoeuvrability worse than earlier jets
 * Installed boosters breaks your wings if pulled over 12 G
-* Weak landing gears
+* Weak landing gear
 * Its excessive flight performance very often causes overconfidence, which can prove deadly
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 === Service in the Luftwaffe ===
-In 1956 the newly-revived West German Luftwaffe ordered 225 Canadair [[CL-13B Mk.6|CL-13 Mk. 6]]<nowiki/>s to outfit 3 day-fighter wings. In advance of the delivery, 75 retired Royal Canadian Air Force Mk. 5s were supplied to the training unit Waffenschule 10 to facilitate the conversion of pilots to the Sabre. By April of 1960 about 25 of these aircraft remained airworthy, down from a peak of 65 in early 1959. All of the remaining Mk. 5s were scrapped or sold by March of 1962.<ref>http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p86_22.html</ref>
+In 1956 the newly-revived West German Luftwaffe ordered 225 Canadair [[CL-13B Mk.6|CL-13 Mk. 6]]s to outfit 3 day-fighter wings. In advance of the delivery, 75 retired Royal Canadian Air Force Mk. 5s were supplied to the training unit Waffenschule 10 to facilitate the conversion of pilots to the Sabre. By April of 1960 about 25 of these aircraft remained airworthy, down from a peak of 65 in early 1959. All of the remaining Mk. 5s were scrapped or sold by March of 1962.<ref>http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p86_22.html</ref>
-The pilot with most kills in history - [https://wiki.warthunder.com/User:U64962917#Hartmann.2C_Erich_A. Erich Hartmann] - flew this aircraft.
+== Media ==
-== Media ==
+;Skins
-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=f-86_canadair_german Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 == See also ==
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 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
 ;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era
+* Grumman [[F9F (Family)|F9F]] Cougar
 * Lavochkin [[La-15]]
-* Mikoyan-Gurevich [[MiG-15]]
+* Mikoyan-Gurevich [[MiG-15 (Family)]]
 == External links ==
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 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
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 ! colspan="4" | AN/APG-30 - Rangefinding radar
 |-
-! {{Annotation|Maximum<br/>Detection<br/>Range|The maximum possible range at which a target can be detected}}
+! {{Annotation|Maximum<br/>Tracking<br/>Range|The maximum range at which a target can be tracked}}
-! {{Annotation|Guaranteed<br/>Detection<br/>Range|The range, below which, detection of a target is practically guaranteed}}
+! {{Annotation|Minimum<br/>Tracking<br/>Range|The range below which targets cannot be tracked by the radar}}
-! {{Annotation|Max Azimuth<br/>Scan Angle|How far to each side the radar can scan (widest search mode)}}
+! {{Annotation|Azimuth Tracking<br/>Angle|How far to each side the radar can track a target}}
-! {{Annotation|Max Elevation<br/>Scan Angle|How far up and down the radar can scan (widest search mode)}}
+! {{Annotation|Elevation Tracking<br/>Angle|How far up and down the radar can track a target}}
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 | 2,750 m || 300 m || ±9° || ±9°