C13 T90 - Revision history

U157784797 at 19:57, 31 July 2024

2024-07-31T19:57:53Z

U157784797 at 19:57, 31 July 2024

2024-07-31T19:57:18Z

U42773747: rephrased mg point, because it got misunderstood and garbled.

2024-02-05T19:51:27Z

rephrased mg point, because it got misunderstood and garbled.

U28580205 at 02:15, 5 February 2024

2024-02-05T02:15:14Z

U42773747: I'm not particularly sure how to improve this one. I also want to visualise MG aiming, but it seems i can't do it without .GIF, which is unfortunate. That should be 3/4.

2024-02-03T19:02:08Z

I'm not particularly sure how to improve this one. I also want to visualise MG aiming, but it seems i can't do it without .GIF, which is unfortunate. That should be 3/4.

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U44629479 at 22:08, 21 February 2022

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 * Amazing mobility
 * Has options to hit tanks while moving at a high speed despite not having a stabiliser
 '''Cons:'''

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 * Amazing mobility
 * Has options to hit tanks while moving at a high speed despite not having a stabiliser
 '''Cons:'''
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 ** Frontal hull armour is not very effective and can only block weak overpressure effects and HMG, pretty much pointless due to the turret not having the same treatment
 * Not as fast as other italian tanks on a road, sometimes has to fight light tanks before executing a flank
 == History ==

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 Unlike the AUBL/74, the C13 does not posses any sort of amphibious abilities, so do not try to traverse deep sections of water, as you'll just drown inside your vehicle.
-The C13 T90 is also capable of brawling due to its high speed, which can go hand-in-hand with the support role. Much like AUBL, the C13 T90 can often outrun tracking of enemy turrets, but also can reliably hit enemies in RB due to a more stable chassis and the machine guns allowing it to practically see the shell trajectory and hit things without stabilizer. While machine guns can annoy the enemy and remind them that the C13 has a 12.7 mm machine gun, they might not hit the turret (which is vulnerable to them even from the front) before the shell lands into their critical weak spot, rendering them crippled.
+The C13 T90 is also capable of brawling due to its high speed, which can go hand-in-hand with the support role. Much like AUBL, the C13 T90 can often outrun tracking of enemy turrets, but also can reliably hit enemies in RB due to a more stable chassis and the machine guns allowing it to practically see the shell trajectory and hit things without stabilizer. Machine guns can annoy the enemy and will almost certainly remind them to use their own 12.7 mm machine gun, but it might not hit the turret (which is vulnerable to HMG even from the front) before the shell lands into their critical weak spot, rendering them crippled.
 As long as you're able to find a spot which can cover most of your vehicle, a player can remain close to the front-lines to perform a range of tasks, such as repairing allied vehicles and helping in capturing points. Intelligent use of tank's strengths and enemy impatience should allow you to come out on top even in AB. For example, one of the few downsides of the C13 T90 is it not being very survivable, your armour is only really effective against enemy machine gun fire, and in some lucky cases you may survive an artillery barrage coming your way. Enemies will usually take this tank in one shot, so they sometimes won't think twice if you pull out your empty back side out of cover and pretend that you did this on accident. Once they fire and the enemy shell goes straight through the empty area of the hull, you can punish them by firing at them once or even twice. To avoid accidentally pushing out too much of a tank, one tactic that can be done is paint a faint line on a tank using the in-game decals or a custom skin.
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 * Rather good gun traverse and elevation rates, allowing for quick reaction to incoming enemies
 * Amazing mobility
-* Has options to hit tanks on the move despite not having a stabiliser
+* Has options to hit tanks while moving at a high speed despite not having a stabiliser
 '''Cons:'''

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-The C13's armour on the front of the hull can stop 12.7 MG fire and together with internal screens is able to prevent HESH and HEAT overpressure damage, but will likely fail against proper HE. It is only truly effective against enemy machine gun fire, and in lucky cases can bounce a few bigger shells if hit at a specific angle.
+The C13's armour on the front of the hull can stop 12.7 mm MG fire and together with internal screens is able to prevent HESH and HEAT overpressure damage, but will likely fail against proper HE. It is only truly effective against enemy machine gun fire, and in lucky cases can bounce a few bigger shells if hit at a specific angle.
 [[File:С13 T90 side with marked empty space .jpg|thumb|right|The yellow mark on tank rear displays the empty space that enemy can hit without damaging the tank. It is not recommended to literally paint over that area as it draws suspicion, but rather paint a thin line for yourself.]]
-The turret front isn't as armoured as the hull, so technically tank's hull armour is irrelevant in most encounters.
+The turret front isn't as armoured as the hull, so technically the C13's hull armour is irrelevant in most encounters as enemies can just hit the turret instead.
-Generally speaking, tank can get taken out easily from all sides by overpressure damage and 12.7 HMG, but the back of the tank is empty and doesn't have any engine related modules unlike with the other italian light tanks. This makes the rear a perfect bait for tanks that do not carry HE/HESH/HEAT by default, as at a flat angle APHE might fail to explode and APDS will simply hit nothing. Refer to the picture for more details.
+Generally speaking, the C13 can get taken out easily from all sides by overpressure damage and 12.7 HMG, but the back of the tank is empty and doesn't have any engine related modules unlike with the other Italian light tanks. This makes the rear a perfect bait for tanks that do not carry HE/HESH/HEAT by default, as at a flat angle APHE might fail to explode and APDS will simply hit nothing. Refer to the picture for more details.
 To survive in a fight, tank should be angled and move as fast as possible, as otherwise any incoming shell will likely hit 2 crew members at once, resulting in instant K.O. in RB and very unpleasant consequences in AB.
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 {{tankMobility|abMinHp=558|rbMinHp=318}}
-On averate, the {PAGENAME} moves at similar average speeds to the AUBL despite being a tracked tank, while it's maximum speed is lower being 78/-16 km/h in AB and 70+/14- km/h in RB. It has neutral steering like regular tanks, so it can turn around without exposing itself.
+On average, the {PAGENAME} moves at similar average speeds to the AUBL despite being a tracked tank while its maximum speed is lower being 78 km/h forward and -16 km/h reverse in AB and 70 km/h forward and -14 km/h in RB. It has neutral steering like regular tanks, so it can turn around without exposing itself.
-The chassis is much more stable and doesn't drift when turning around, nor does it have a tendency to fly off the road like other italian light tanks.
+The chassis is much more stable and doesn't drift when turning around, nor does it have a tendency to fly off the road like other Italian light tanks.
-The tank cannot swim unlike other italian automobiles.
+The tank cannot swim unlike other Italian automobiles.
 === Modifications and economy ===
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 Although the gun doesn't have an autoloader, fires and crew incapacitation do not prevent reload.
-While firing on the move, the gun will actually become more accurate, with a significant caveat. Refer to the machine gun section for more details.
+While firing on the move, the gun will actually become more accurate, with a significant caveat. This can be done via the [[C13_T90#Machine_guns|machine guns tracers]].
 The shells are identical to the ones used by the AUBL. While there is a slight difference in BR between these vehicles, it's not drastic enough to make a difference. HEAT is still a main shell, while HESH is mainly used as a finisher or against light vehicles, with smoke being used to block sniper fire.
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 The tank is armed with 2 machine guns which can deal significant damage to aircraft if they both focus on it. They also can shoot down hostile ATGM, although relying solely on them is risky.
-Secondary use for the machineguns is aiming of the main gun while driving, which is feasible at ranges up to 600 m. Simply fire machine guns at the tank that needs to be destroyed, the commander (top) machine gun shows where the turret is trying to aim, while gunner machine gun (bottom) is showing where the shell will actually go. Once both bullet streams converge, which is the cue to fire main weapon, the shell from the cannon has about 90% chance to land EXACTLY there despite cannon's normally random behaviour. This only really works when the tank is moving at speeds above 20 km/h.
+Secondary use for the machine guns is aiming of the main gun while driving, which is feasible at ranges up to 600 m. Simply fire machine guns at the tank that needs to be destroyed, the commander (top) machine gun shows where the turret is trying to aim, while gunner machine gun (bottom) is showing where the shell will actually go. Once both bullet streams converge, which is the cue to fire main weapon, the shell from the cannon has a high chance to land exactly there despite cannon's normally random behaviour. This only really works when the tank is moving at speeds above 20 km/h.
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 Unlike the AUBL/74, the C13 does not posses any sort of amphibious abilities, so do not try to traverse deep sections of water, as you'll just drown inside your vehicle.
-The C13 T90 is also capable of brawling due to its high speed, which can go hand-in-hand with the support role. Much like AUBL, the C13 T90 can often outrun tracking of enemy turrets, but also can reliably hit enemies in RB due to a more stable chassis and the machine guns allowing it to practically see the shell trajectory and hit things without stabilizer. While machine guns can piss enemy off and remind them that they have a 12.7 mm machine gun, they might not hit the turret (which is vulnerable to them even from the front) before the shell lands into their critical weakspot, rendering them crippled.
+The C13 T90 is also capable of brawling due to its high speed, which can go hand-in-hand with the support role. Much like AUBL, the C13 T90 can often outrun tracking of enemy turrets, but also can reliably hit enemies in RB due to a more stable chassis and the machine guns allowing it to practically see the shell trajectory and hit things without stabilizer. While machine guns can annoy the enemy and remind them that the C13 has a 12.7 mm machine gun, they might not hit the turret (which is vulnerable to them even from the front) before the shell lands into their critical weak spot, rendering them crippled.
-As long as you're able to find a spot which can cover most of your vehicle, a player can remain close to the front-lines to perform a range of tasks, such as repairing allied vehicles and helping in capturing points. Intelligent abuse of tank strenghts and enemy impatience should allow you to come out on top even in AB. For example, one of the few downsides of the C13 T90 is it not being very survivable, your armour is only really effective against enemy machine gun fire, and in some lucky cases you may survive an artillery barrage coming your way. Enemies will usually take this tank in one shot, so they sometimes won't think twice if you pull out your empty back side out of cover and pretend that you did this on accident. Once they fire, you can punish them by firing at them once or even twice. To avoid accidentally pushing out too much of a tank, paint a faint line on a tank.
+As long as you're able to find a spot which can cover most of your vehicle, a player can remain close to the front-lines to perform a range of tasks, such as repairing allied vehicles and helping in capturing points. Intelligent use of tank's strengths and enemy impatience should allow you to come out on top even in AB. For example, one of the few downsides of the C13 T90 is it not being very survivable, your armour is only really effective against enemy machine gun fire, and in some lucky cases you may survive an artillery barrage coming your way. Enemies will usually take this tank in one shot, so they sometimes won't think twice if you pull out your empty back side out of cover and pretend that you did this on accident. Once they fire and the enemy shell goes straight through the empty area of the hull, you can punish them by firing at them once or even twice. To avoid accidentally pushing out too much of a tank, one tactic that can be done is paint a faint line on a tank using the in-game decals or a custom skin.
-Good situational awareness is also recommended when playing this vehicle. After a few minutes into a match, enemy air will start to make its presence known. Enemy aircraft can easily take you out, even weaker rockets will seriously damage your vehicle if not outright take you out. it's advised that you either keep moving or you stay hidden in one spot where you won't be at risk of getting spotted. To maximize your survivability, it's best to take refuge inside a building, and hopefully wait for a friendly SPAA to take the air threat out for you.
+Good situational awareness is also recommended when playing this vehicle. After a few minutes into a match, enemy air will start to make its presence known. Enemy aircraft can easily take you out, even weaker rockets will seriously damage your vehicle if not outright take you out. It's advised that you either keep moving or stay hidden in one spot where you won't be at risk of getting spotted. To maximize your survivability, it's best to take refuge inside a building, and hopefully wait for a friendly SPAA to take the air threat out for you.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 * The shells sometimes don't deal enough damage, particularly against heavy tanks
 * Armour is weak to anything besides LMG
-** Frontal Hull armour is not very effective and can only block weak overpressure effects and HMG, pretty much pointless due to the turret not having the same treatment
+** Frontal hull armour is not very effective and can only block weak overpressure effects and HMG, pretty much pointless due to the turret not having the same treatment
 * Not as fast as other italian tanks on a road, sometimes has to fight light tanks before executing a flank

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 == Description ==
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-The OTO Melara C-13 (introduced in [[Update "Direct Hit"]]) was a platform made to attempt to replace the aging M113's and similar vehicles that armies around the world had in service at the time. It would be made in such a way to allow it to install multiple different armaments and also be easily modified to suit different roles. OTO Melara made several prototypes of which some would mount the TUA (tow and armour) and some also mounting the OTO TC-25 turret. Ultimately although several countries showed interest it would not be picked up, at the time the market was very saturated with light tanks so being chosen became a harder task. The one represented in game is armed with a 90mm cockerill cannon which can fire HEAT and HESH munitions. This variant was made to support infantry and main battle tanks. In game the C-13 is one of the best light tanks at its battle rating due to the superior mobility and low profile. The C-13 is able to keep up with both tracked and wheeled peers on the battlefield, at time even surpassing them, due to this the C-13 can be a perfect scouting or flanking vehicle. As many vehicles in the Italian tech tree, it isn't very armoured however you will at times bounce certain shells if lucky, most machine guns wont penetrate you either. If fired by an APFSDS round the C-13 does have quite a lot of empty space so also at times a round may overpen you and not do any damage. You are quite weak against enemy aircraft and enemy artillery however so try to keep a look out and use your mobility to escape from sticky situations. This vehicle has great turret handling, but like the AUBL the cannon is not stabilized so firing on the move is quite risky. Due to it's current battle rating there is not much of a line up you can form with this vehicle so a player is forced to bring vehicles from lower battle ratings as backup. Overall a great light tank which once spaded can prove to be effective in the right hands.
+The OTO Melara C-13 was developed as a replacement for the ageing M113 and similar vehicles used by armies worldwide. The platform was designed to allow multiple different armaments to be installed and be easily modified to suit various roles. OTO Melara produced several prototypes, some of which mounted the TUA (TOW under armour) or the OTO TC-25 turret. Although several countries expressed interest, it did not gain popularity due to the saturation of the market with light tanks. The variant represented in the game is equipped with a 90 mm Cockerill cannon capable of firing HEAT and HESH munitions, and was designed to support infantry and main battle tanks.
 == General info ==

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