C. 205 serie 1 - Revision history

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 * Hard to control during low speed and altitude
 * Any damage severely degrades aircraft functionality
-* Terrible stall characteristics, effectively incapable of performing a loop and will enter an immediate unrecoverable flatspin
+* Terrible stall characteristics, effectively incapable of performing a vertical loop and will enter an immediate unrecoverable flatspin
 == History ==

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 * Hard to control during low speed and altitude
 * Any damage severely degrades aircraft functionality
 == History ==

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 == Description ==
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-The Regia Aeronautica after the entry into service of the C.202 in 1941 was already beginning to look for new possibilities for a new generation of fighters requiring better engine power and high performance so that they could change armament, and with the Germans' permission to build the DB605A engine in Italy, two development paths were created, one leading to the C.205N 'Orione' programme and the other to the C.202Bis. On 16 December 1941, which would later be renamed C.205 V, the first aircraft of this type will be built by Macchi in 100 units of the 1st series armed with two 12.7mm and two 7.7mm, later by FIAT in 300 units of the 2nd series, the aircraft will fly for the first time on April 19, 1942, then to be put into service in February 1943 in which it will participate in several battles, for the most part, to defend Italian airspace from enemy aircraft, even after the armistice will still be used by both the Italy Co-belligerent and that of the RSI.
+After the entry of the C.202 into service in 1941, the Regia Aeronautica was already beginning to look for new possibilities for a new generation of fighters requiring better engine power and high performance so that they could change armament. With the Germans' permission to build the DB605A engine in Italy, two development paths were created, one leading to the C.205N 'Orione' programme and the other to the C.202Bis. On 16 December 1941, the first aircraft of the former type, which would later be renamed C.205 V, were built by Macchi with 100 units of the 1st series armed with two 12.7 mm and two 7.7 mm, later by FIAT with 300 units of the 2nd series. The aircraft would fly for the first time on April 19, 1942, then be put into service in February 1943, after which it would participate in several battles, for the most part to defend Italian airspace from enemy aircraft. Even after the armistice, it would still be used by both the Italy Co-belligerent forces and that of the RSI.
-The C.205 Serie I was introduced in the [[Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"|1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"update"]] along with the initial Italian aviation tree, in the game it is a very balanced fighter for manoeuvrability and speed, it can fight both in turn fight and energy fight, using flaps in combat mode you can also turn faster while you are in combat, instead talking about armament you have a poor armament consisting of two 12.7mm and two 7.7mm for which you will have to shoot many shots at the enemy aircraft so you will have to use the following belts Anti-aircraft and Tracers, finally talking about survival well what should we say try to dodge enemy aircraft as much as possible because you will find enemy aircraft with more powerful armament than you.
+The C.205 serie 1 was introduced in [[Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"]] along with the initial Italian aviation tree. It is a fighter with a great balance of manoeuvrability and speed, it can fight both in turn fights and energy fights, using combat flaps to turn a little tighter while in combat. However, it has relatively poor armament consisting of two 12.7 mm and two 7.7 mm machine guns for which you will have to shoot many shots at the enemy aircraft. The aircraft's survivability is also rather poor, as many opponents at the battle rating will have hard-hitting cannons that can easily send you back to the hangar.
 == General info ==

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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"]] along with the initial Italian aviation tree.
+The Regia Aeronautica after the entry into service of the C.202 in 1941 was already beginning to look for new possibilities for a new generation of fighters requiring better engine power and high performance so that they could change armament, and with the Germans' permission to build the DB605A engine in Italy, two development paths were created, one leading to the C.205N 'Orione' programme and the other to the C.202Bis. On 16 December 1941, which would later be renamed C.205 V, the first aircraft of this type will be built by Macchi in 100 units of the 1st series armed with two 12.7mm and two 7.7mm, later by FIAT in 300 units of the 2nd series, the aircraft will fly for the first time on April 19, 1942, then to be put into service in February 1943 in which it will participate in several battles, for the most part, to defend Italian airspace from enemy aircraft, even after the armistice will still be used by both the Italy Co-belligerent and that of the RSI.
 == General info ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=mc-205_serie1 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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-| usage = other uses
+| usage = other versions
 | link = C.205 (Family)
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 This fighter can climb fast for its rank and battle rating, thanks to DB 605-A which was installed in Bf 109 G-2, even in stock. The {{PAGENAME}} could climb up to 5,000 m in to seek enemy planes, but higher than 6,000-7,000 m is recommended for safest altitude. Use this advantage when retaining energy, to outrun enemies or gain altitude if the first pass failed and make up the second pass. Although the engine provides considerable manoeuvrability, one should not do excess dogfighting toward the target, as it will burn up energy faster. Never attempt to make contact with manoeuvrable fighters, like Spitfires and Yaks, especially at low altitude. Call teammates, then gain some altitude until the enemy cannot pursue. Use this chance to make a counter-attack and destroy the enemy. One thing to note, this plane's propeller pitch can be tweaked to the maximum value without blowing the engine, unlike all Bf 109s with the same engine when using manual engine control.
-When in stock, the armament leaves much to be desired: low velocity and ball ammunition limit the effectiveness of the weapon. Never attempt to head-on by any means; chances are the opponent's bullets will reach the C.205 before its own. One thing should be noted: while the C.205 has a powerful engine at its battle rating, never intercept bombers without teammates, especially when down-tiered. However, these machine guns prove quite effective against dive-bombers or low-flying bombers. Try to aim for the wings or the engine(s) for a desirable hit. Adjust the machine gun convergence to 250-300 m for the most effectiveness. It is recommended to load Air Targets or Universal belts for the .50 calibre guns, along with Stealth belts for the .30 calibre machine guns.
+When in stock, the armament leaves much to be desired: low velocity and ball ammunition limit the effectiveness of the weapon. Never attempt to head-on by any means; chances are the opponent's bullets will reach the C.205 before its own. One thing should be noted: while the C.205 has a powerful engine at its battle rating, never intercept bombers without teammates, especially when down-tiered. However, these machine guns prove quite effective against dive-bombers or low-flying bombers. Try to aim for the wings or the engine(s) for a desirable hit. Adjust the machine gun convergence to 250-300 m for the most effectiveness. It is recommended to load Air Targets or Universal belts for the 12.7 mm machine guns, along with Stealth belts for the 7.7 mm machine guns.
 Overall, {{PAGENAME}} is a support Boom & Zoom fighter with good climb rate, reasonably fast for its battle rating. While being overshadowed by underperformed armament among all the fighters, in the hands of a skilled player this fighter became a bane among all the enemy fighters and even to bombers.
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 * Reasonable climb rate
 * Excellent high altitude performance
-* Insane straight-line acceleration
+* Good straight-line acceleration
 '''Cons:'''
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 == Media ==
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 {{Youtube-gallery|DwbexTKZA-A|'''The Shooting Range #49''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 07:02 discusses the C.205.}}
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-The C.205 Serie 1 is perhaps the most underrated rank III Italian fighter, most likely due to the underpowered armament which consists of 2 x 12.7 mm and 2 x 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns. This can be a serious problem since this fighter is Boom & Zoom fighter, meaning even a successful pass with multiple bullits on target will badly cripple the target instead destroying it. Therefore, stick with teammates in order to support them. The C.205 Serie 1 works well when escorting bombers.
+The C.205 Serie 1 is perhaps the most underrated rank III Italian fighter, most likely due to the underpowered armament which consists of 2 x 12.7 mm and 2 x 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns. This can be a serious problem since this fighter is Boom & Zoom fighter, meaning even a successful pass will badly cripple the target instead destroying it. Therefore, stick with teammates in order to support them. The C.205 Serie 1 works well when escorting bombers.
 This fighter can climb fast for its rank and battle rating, thanks to DB 605-A which was installed in Bf 109 G-2, even in stock. The {{PAGENAME}} could climb up to 5,000 m in to seek enemy planes, but higher than 6,000-7,000 m is recommended for safest altitude. Use this advantage when retaining energy, to outrun enemies or gain altitude if the first pass failed and make up the second pass. Although the engine provides considerable manoeuvrability, one should not do excess dogfighting toward the target, as it will burn up energy faster. Never attempt to make contact with manoeuvrable fighters, like Spitfires and Yaks, especially at low altitude. Call teammates, then gain some altitude until the enemy cannot pursue. Use this chance to make a counter-attack and destroy the enemy. One thing to note, this plane's propeller pitch can be tweaked to the maximum value without blowing the engine, unlike all Bf 109s with the same engine when using manual engine control.
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 When in stock, the armament leaves much to be desired: low velocity and ball ammunition limit the effectiveness of the weapon. Never attempt to head-on by any means; chances are the opponent's bullets will reach the C.205 before its own. One thing should be noted: while the C.205 has a powerful engine at its battle rating, never intercept bombers without teammates, especially when down-tiered. However, these machine guns prove quite effective against dive-bombers or low-flying bombers. Try to aim for the wings or the engine(s) for a desirable hit. Adjust the machine gun convergence to 250-300 m for the most effectiveness. It is recommended to load Air Targets or Universal belts for the .50 calibre guns, along with Stealth belts for the .30 calibre machine guns.
-Overall, {{PAGENAME}} is a support Boom & Zoom fighter with good climb rate, reasonably fast for its battle rating. While being overshadowed by underperformed armament among all the fighters, in the hands of a skilled & patient player this fighter became a bane among all the enemy fighters and even to bombers.
+Overall, {{PAGENAME}} is a support Boom & Zoom fighter with good climb rate, reasonably fast for its battle rating. While being overshadowed by underperformed armament among all the fighters, in the hands of a skilled player this fighter became a bane among all the enemy fighters and even to bombers.
 === Manual Engine Control ===

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 === Flight performance ===
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-<!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->The C.205 is an excellent climbing aircraft, with a fairly good top speed and roll rate. It does not rip easily or compress, and remains fairly responsive at all speeds.
+<!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
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 ! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
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-| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 535 || 450 || 260 || ~14 || ~5
+| 845 <!-- {{Specs|destruction|body}} --> || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 535 || 450 || 260 || ~14 || ~5
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 == External links ==
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+<!-- ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
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+* ''other literature.'' -->
 * [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/365070-macchi-c205-serie-1/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]

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