C. 205N2 - Revision history

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 == Description ==
-<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->The C.205N2, also known as "Orion" ("Orion") was the next development of the [[C. 205 (Family)|C.205V Veltro]], during 1942-1943 the Regia Aeronautica requested an upgrade for the C.205, the C.205N1 prototype was created in 1942 with larger wings and a longer fuselage but only armed with 12.7mm, but it was not accepted due to its poor armament, in 1943 the second prototype of the C.205N named C.205N2 with a more powerful engine and the addition in the fuselage of a 20mm cannon inside the crankshaft, thanks to its improved armament the C.205N2 was accepted by the Regia Aeronautica but due to lack of resources and the Armistice, it was abandoned and remained at the prototype stage.
+<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The C.205N2 is an excellent fighter for both turn-fight and energy-fight, introduced with the Italian Tech tree aircraft in the [[Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"|1.69 "Regia Aeronautica" update]], the fighter proves to be very manoeuvrable both at high speed and low speed, while if we talk about the armament thanks to the three 20mm and two 12.7mm you can cause in a few shots the destruction of the enemy aircraft thanks to the anti-aircraft belts that contain many incendiary shots.
+Introduced along with the initial Italian tech tree in [[Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"]], the C.205N2 is an excellent fighter for both turn-fighting and energy-fighting, being very manoeuvrable both at high speed and low speed. Thanks to the three 20 mm cannons and two 12.7 mm machine guns, destruction of enemy aircraft will only take a few hits, particularly with the anti-aircraft belts that contain many incendiary rounds.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
-<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
+<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->The C.205N2, also known as "Orion" ("Orion") was the next development of the [[C. 205 (Family)|C.205V Veltro]], during 1942-1943 the Regia Aeronautica requested an upgrade for the C.205, the C.205N1 prototype was created in 1942 with larger wings and a longer fuselage but only armed with 12.7mm, but it was not accepted due to its poor armament, in 1943 the second prototype of the C.205N named C.205N2 with a more powerful engine and the addition in the fuselage of a 20mm cannon inside the crankshaft, thanks to its improved armament the C.205N2 was accepted by the Regia Aeronautica but due to lack of resources and the Armistice, it was abandoned and remained at the prototype stage.
 The C.205N2 is an excellent fighter for both turn-fight and energy-fight, introduced with the Italian Tech tree aircraft in the [[Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"|1.69 "Regia Aeronautica" update]], the fighter proves to be very manoeuvrable both at high speed and low speed, while if we talk about the armament thanks to the three 20mm and two 12.7mm you can cause in a few shots the destruction of the enemy aircraft thanks to the anti-aircraft belts that contain many incendiary shots.

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"]].
-The C.205N, also known as the "Orione" ("Orion"), was a development of the [[C.205_serie_3|C.205V "Veltro"]] to bring more firepower and higher altitude into the aircraft's performance.
+The C.205N2, also known as "Orion" ("Orion") was the next development of the [[C. 205 (Family)|C.205V Veltro]], during 1942-1943 the Regia Aeronautica requested an upgrade for the C.205, the C.205N1 prototype was created in 1942 with larger wings and a longer fuselage but only armed with 12.7mm, but it was not accepted due to its poor armament, in 1943 the second prototype of the C.205N named C.205N2 with a more powerful engine and the addition in the fuselage of a 20mm cannon inside the crankshaft, thanks to its improved armament the C.205N2 was accepted by the Regia Aeronautica but due to lack of resources and the Armistice, it was abandoned and remained at the prototype stage.
 == General info ==
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-<gallery mode="packed-hover"  heights="150">
+<gallery mode="packed-hover" heights="150">
 Image:C.205N2 Destroying an American B-17.png|<small>C.205N2 Destroying an American B-17</small>
 Image:C.205N2 Formation (1).png|<small>C.205N2 in formation</small>

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 === Flight performance ===
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+<!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
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 ==== Details ====
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+| 845 <!-- {{Specs|destruction|body}} --> || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 535 || 450 || 260 || ~14 || ~5
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-{{main|MG 151/20 (20 mm)|Breda-SAFAT (12.7 mm)}}
+{{main|MG 151 (20 mm)|Breda-SAFAT (12.7 mm)}}
 The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
-* 1 x 20 mm MG 151/20 cannon, nose-mounted (250 rpg)
+* 1 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon, nose-mounted (250 rpg)
-* 2 x 20 mm MG 151/20 cannons, wing-mounted (250 rpg = 500 total)
+* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (250 rpg = 500 total)
 * 2 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns, nose-mounted (400 rpg = 800 total)
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 == Usage in battles ==
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+<!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-'''RB/SB Battles'''
+The C.205N2 belongs to the select few planes who are good for [[Boom & Zoom|Boom and Zoom]] as well as turnfighting, it is an extremely balanced multi-role aircraft. It should be played neither at low altitude nor at high altitude, but in-between at medium altitude. It has no problem dealing with all other fighters at its BR, due to its ability to retain energy well. It can hold its own against [[Bf 109 (Family)|Bf 109s]], [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190s]] and [[P-51 (Family)|P-51s]]. It can fight well against [[Spitfire (Family)|Spitfires]] (with some skill on the pilot's part).
 === Manual Engine Control ===
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-! Oil
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-| Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Separate || rowspan="2" | Not controllable<br>1 gear || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
+| Not controllable || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Separate || Not controllable<br>1 gear || Not controllable
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 * High roll rate
 * Good firepower
-* Good Acceleration, top speed and climb rate
+* Good acceleration, top speed and climb rate
 * Short turn radius
 * Good energy retention in BnZ
 * High structural strength
 * Lots of ammunition
 * Aircraft cooling is very efficient even in hot maps
-'''Cons'''
+'''Cons:'''
 * Roll rate deteriorates and control surfaces stiffen beyond 600 km/h (373 mph)
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 == History ==
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+<!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
 The C.205N2 was a further development of the [[C.205 (Family)|C.205V Veltro]], Macchi engineers tried to perfect the C.205V design and they developed the "Orione" variant with 2 different prototypes: the new variants got increased firepower and high-altitude performance. To achieve this, the engineers made the fuselage longer and increased the wingspan of the aircraft and in the second prototype they have adapted the fuselage for a 20 mm cannon within the engine shaft.
 [[File:C.205N2.png|thumb|C.205N2 (MM.500) on the airfield]]
 The first prototype C.205N1 (MM.499) flew on 1 November 1942 by Guido Carestiato to be later sent to Guidonia Experimental Centre for official evaluation in a fighter competition. After it, the Macchi engineers built the second variant: the [[C.205N2]] (MM.500) was flown 19 May 1943 by Lonate Pozzolo, later also flying to Guidonia for military  acceptance testing.
 The first prototype C.205N1 was not accepted because the armament was not compliance with official specifications by the Tender Committee, the Macchi C.205N1 armament was armed with one 20 mm [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151/20]] cannon mounted in the fuselage and firing through the hollow hub of the propeller, and four [[Breda-SAFAT (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT]] machine guns. Meanwhile, the [[C.205N2]] has a pair of wing-mounted 20 mm [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151/20]] cannons instead of the original  [[Breda-SAFAT (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT]] machine guns and a 20 mm [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151/20]] cannon within the engine block.
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 == External links ==
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+* ''other literature.'' -->
-* [[wt:en/news/4817-vehicle-profile-macchi-c-205n2-orione-rome-s-shooting-star-en|[Vehicle Profile] Macchi C.205N2 Orione - “Rome’s Shooting Star”]]
+* [[wt:en/news/4817-vehicle-profile-macchi-c-205n2-orione-rome-s-shooting-star-en|[Vehicle Profile] Macchi C.205N2 Orione - "Rome's Shooting Star"]]
 * [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/365074-macchi-c205-n2/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
 {{AirManufacturer Macchi}}
 {{Italy fighters}}

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