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{{Specs-Card
|code=fr_battleship_bretagne_class_bretagne
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French battleship {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Alpha Strike"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}

''Talk about the vehicle's armour. Note the most well-defended and most vulnerable zones, e.g. the ammo magazine. Evaluate the composition of components and assemblies responsible for movement and manoeuvrability. Evaluate the survivability of the primary and secondary armaments separately. Don't forget to mention the size of the crew, which plays an important role in fleet mechanics. Save tips on preserving survivability for the "Usage in battles" section. If necessary, use a graphical template to show the most well-protected or most vulnerable points in the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}

''Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.''

{{NavalMobility}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armament ==
{{Specs-Fleet-Armaments}}
=== Primary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Primary}}

{{main|340 mm/45 model 1912 (340 mm)}}
''Provide information about the characteristics of the primary armament. Evaluate their efficacy in battle based on their reload speed, ballistics and the capacity of their shells. Add a link to the main article about the weapon: <code><nowiki>{{main|Weapon name (calibre)}}</nowiki></code>. Broadly describe the ammunition available for the primary armament, and provide recommendations on how to use it and which ammunition to choose.''

{{:340 mm/45 model 1912 (340 mm)/Ammunition|340 mm OEA Mle 1926 HE, 340 mm OPF Mle 1912 APC, 340 mm OPF Mle 1921 APCBC}}

=== Secondary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Secondary}}

{{main|138.6 mm/55 model 1910 (138.6 mm)}}
''Some ships are fitted with weapons of various calibres. Secondary armaments are defined as weapons chosen with the control <code>Select secondary weapon</code>. Evaluate the secondary armaments and give advice on how to use them. Describe the ammunition available for the secondary armament. Provide recommendations on how to use them and which ammunition to choose. Remember that any anti-air armament, even heavy calibre weapons, belong in the next section. If there is no secondary armament, remove this section.''

{{:138.6 mm/55 model 1910 (138.6 mm)/Ammunition|138.6 mm OEA Mle 1919 HE, 138.6 mm OPF Mle 1910 SAP, 138.6 mm OPF Mle 1921 SAPBC}}

=== Anti-aircraft armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-AA}}

{{main|75 mm/50 Canet model 1891 (75 mm)}}
''An important part of the ship's armament responsible for air defence. Anti-aircraft armament is defined by the weapon chosen with the control <code>Select anti-aircraft weapons</code>. Talk about the ship's anti-air cannons and machine guns, the number of guns and their positions, their effective range, and about their overall effectiveness – including against surface targets. If there are no anti-aircraft armaments, remove this section.''

=== Additional armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Additional}}

{{main|1909R (450 mm)}}
''Describe the available additional armaments of the ship: depth charges, mines, torpedoes. Talk about their positions, available ammunition and launch features such as dead zones of torpedoes. If there is no additional armament, remove this section.''

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===

''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''

'''Pros:'''
*

'''Cons:'''
*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the ship;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{France battleships}}

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 '''Bretagne''' was a French super-dreadnought, lead ship of [[Bretagne (Family)|her class]], launched in April 1913. Due to the constraints of the French shipyards, her length and displacement remained almost unchanged compared to her predecessors of the [[Courbet (Family)|Courbet class]]. During World War One, she was delegated to blockading the deployment of German and Austro-Hungarian submarines. During the interwar period, Bretagne underwent several very extensive modernizations, including updating fire control systems, replacing an outdated mast with a tripod, and strengthening anti-air defence.
-With the outbreak of World War Two, the battleship was based in Toulon and participated in the naval blockade of Germany. In March 1940, she transported part of France's gold reserves to Halifax. At the time of the Invasion of France, she was stationed in Mers-el-Kébir. After the surrender of France, the British command decided to launch an attack on Mers-el-Kebir in order to prevent French ships from falling into German hands. On July 3, during Operation Catapult, the fleet stationed in harbour came under fire from the battleships HMS Valiant and HMS Resolution and the battlecruiser [[HMS Hood]] along with escort vessels. Bretagne received several hits from 381 mm shells, leading to an explosion and sinking which killed 1,012 crew members. In 1942, attempts were made to raise the battleship's hull for cutting, but they were stopped after an explosion occurred on board. In 1952, the hull was finally raised and by 1954 cut for scrap.
+With the outbreak of World War Two, the battleship was based in Toulon and participated in the naval blockade of Germany. In March 1940, she transported part of France's gold reserves to Halifax. At the time of the Invasion of France, she was stationed in Mers-el-Kébir which, after the surrender of France, became a target of British attack in order to prevent French ships from falling into German hands. On July 3, during Operation Catapult, the fleet stationed in harbour came under fire from the battleships HMS Valiant and HMS Resolution and the battlecruiser [[HMS Hood]] along with escort vessels. Bretagne received several hits from 381 mm shells, leading to an explosion and sinking which killed 1,012 crew members. In 1942, attempts were made to raise the battleship's hull for cutting, but they were stopped after an explosion occurred on board. In 1952, the hull was finally raised and by 1954 cut for scrap.
 The Bretagne was introduced in [[Update "Alpha Strike"]] in her 1925 refit. She plays like a typical WW1-era dreadnought, being best used in a second line, picking off targets with her multiple large-calibre guns. Her mediocre armour, little mobility, and next to no anti-air defenses make it difficult for her to compete for capture points or slug out against vessels at higher BRs.

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
-'''Bretagne''' was a French super-dreadnought, a lead ship of [[Bretagne (Family)|her class]], launched in April 1913. Due to the constraints of the French shipyards her length and displacement remained almost unchanged compared to the predecessors of the [[Courbet (Family)|Courbet class]]. During the World War One she was delegated to the naval blockade of German and Austro-Hungarian submarines. During the interwar period, Bretagne underwent several very extensive modernizations, including updating fire control systems, replacing an outdated mast with a tripod, and strengthening anti-air defence.
+'''Bretagne''' was a French super-dreadnought, lead ship of [[Bretagne (Family)|her class]], launched in April 1913. Due to the constraints of the French shipyards, her length and displacement remained almost unchanged compared to her predecessors of the [[Courbet (Family)|Courbet class]]. During World War One, she was delegated to blockading the deployment of German and Austro-Hungarian submarines. During the interwar period, Bretagne underwent several very extensive modernizations, including updating fire control systems, replacing an outdated mast with a tripod, and strengthening anti-air defence.
-With the outbreak of World War Two, the battleship was based in Toulon and participated in the naval blockade of Germany. In March 1940, she transported part of France's gold reserves to Halifax. At the time of the Invasion of France she was stationed in Mers-el-Kébir. After the surrender of France, the British command decided to launch an attack on Mers-el-Kebir in order to prevent French ships from falling into German hands. On July 3, during Operation Catapult, fleet stationed in harbor came under fire from the battleships HMS Valiant, HMS Resolution and the battlecruiser [[HMS Hood]] along with escort vessels. Bretagne received several hits from 381-mm shells, leading to explosion and sinking which killed 1012 crew members. In 1942, attempts were made to raise the battleship's hull for cutting, but they were stopped after an explosion occurred on board. In 1952, the hull was finally raised and by 1954 cut for scrap.
+With the outbreak of World War Two, the battleship was based in Toulon and participated in the naval blockade of Germany. In March 1940, she transported part of France's gold reserves to Halifax. At the time of the Invasion of France, she was stationed in Mers-el-Kébir. After the surrender of France, the British command decided to launch an attack on Mers-el-Kebir in order to prevent French ships from falling into German hands. On July 3, during Operation Catapult, the fleet stationed in harbour came under fire from the battleships HMS Valiant and HMS Resolution and the battlecruiser [[HMS Hood]] along with escort vessels. Bretagne received several hits from 381 mm shells, leading to an explosion and sinking which killed 1,012 crew members. In 1942, attempts were made to raise the battleship's hull for cutting, but they were stopped after an explosion occurred on board. In 1952, the hull was finally raised and by 1954 cut for scrap.
-The Bretagne was introduced in [[Update "Alpha Strike"]] in her 1925 refit. She plays like a typical WW1-era dreadnought, being best used in a second line, picking off targets with her multiple large-caliber guns. Her mediocre armor, little mobility and next to no anti-air defenses make it difficult for her to compete for capture points or slug out against vessels in a higher BRs.
+The Bretagne was introduced in [[Update "Alpha Strike"]] in her 1925 refit. She plays like a typical WW1-era dreadnought, being best used in a second line, picking off targets with her multiple large-calibre guns. Her mediocre armour, little mobility, and next to no anti-air defenses make it difficult for her to compete for capture points or slug out against vessels at higher BRs.
 == General info ==
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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
 By 1910, the previously competitive French Navy was considerably behind major naval powers such as Britain, Germany & the USA in terms of capital ships, having not yet laid down a single dreadnought type warship whilst the Kaiserliche Marine had built 8 dreadnoughts and a battlecruiser, the United States Navy had built 6 dreadnoughts and the Royal Navy had built 10 dreadnoughts and 5 battlecruisers, and that's ignoring the additional capital ships the nations also had under construction at the time. Even the Imperial Russian Navy had four of its first dreadnought class under construction at the time and Brazil owned two dreadnoughts which Britain had finished construction of that same year. It was only in late 1910 that the first of the 4 French Courbet class dreadnoughts had been laid down, meanwhile other major powers were continually producing and planning yet more capital ships.
 In an attempt to reverse France's current naval inferiority, the government authorised an ambitious naval program in March 1912, calling for a force of 28 modern battleships to be completed within the next 8 years, starting with the new Bretagne class of 3 super-dreadnoughts, all laid down that same year.
 [[File:BretagneClassProvence.jpg|thumb|<small>Provence, of the Bretagne class, sailing during the First World War</small>]]
 To compete with the designs of contemporary battleships, the Bretagne class required 340 mm guns over the prior 305 mm of the Courbet class, but within a hull based on that of the Courbet so that it would still fit France's limited dockyards, necessitating 5 turrets rather than the 6 of the Courbet. However, the Bretagne placed all of its main turrets on the centreline, retaining the 10 gun broadside of the Courbet, which used two wing-turrets.
 The three ships of the class were completed just prior to the outbreak of the First World War, though a fourth ship ordered by Greece was never completed. The ships spent the majority of the war in port while guarding the Adriatic from potential Austro-Hungarian incursions, as well as being used to intimidate Greece, which was leaning toward supporting Germany. Through  the interwar years, the three ships received sporadic refits and conducted training cruises. During the Spanish Civil War, Bretagne & Provence joined non-intervention patrols off the Spanish coast.
 Following the start of the Second World War, the ships initially didn't see any action outside of escorting several convoys. However, after the Fall of France, Force H of the Royal Navy accosted the majority of the French Navy in the harbour of Mers-el-Kébir in July 1940, delivering an ultimatum which suggested various ways for the French fleet to be interned by or integrated with the Royal Navy to prevent the Axis from having any chance of seizing the ships and overwhelming the British Mediterranean Fleet. Failure to comply with the ultimatum would result in Force H attempting to destroy the French Fleet in the port, which included Bretagne and Provence.
 After several hours of negotiations, no agreement was reached and the warships of Force H initiated hostilities upon the French fleet. Within minutes, Bretagne was struck by two 381 mm shells from the third salvo of HMS Hood, HMS Resolution & HMS Valiant, one blasting a hole in the hull with a fiery explosion, causing flooding, and the other destroying the centre engine room. 7 minutes later, another two 381 mm shells hit, which was shortly followed by a catastrophic ammunition detonation that rocked the ship, causing it to roll over and sink. Meanwhile, Provence had begun returning fire on Force H about 90 seconds after the British opened fire, but scored no hits and was then subsequently hit by several 381 mm shells, igniting blazing fires onboard and tearing open the hull, allowing vast quantities of water to flood in, eventually sinking the ship to the bottom of the harbour.
 [[File:BretagneMersElKebir.jpg|thumb|<small>Bretagne on fire and flooding after being struck by two 381mm shells, shortly prior to detonation</small>]]
 Following the attack, though Bretagne was a lost cause, Provence was raised from the seabed. The ship was somewhat repaired and transferred to Toulon, where it stayed until being scuttled in 1942 to keep the Germans from using it.
 Meanwhile, whilst all that had been going on, Lorraine had been interned in Alexandria since the Fall of France. In 1942, the crew of the ship decided to join the navy of Free France and the ship served as a training vessel though 1943. The ship then received a major refit before participating in Operation Dragoon of 1944 as an artillery support ship during the landings. The last action of the ship during war was the bombardment of German forts in northern France in March 1945.
 Following the war, the Lorraine became a gunnery training ship and then a barracks ship before being decommissioned in 1953 and sold to scrappers. What was left of Bretagne was raised and scrapped in 1952, while the hulk of Provence was raised and scrapped in 1949.
 == Media ==

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 * ''other literature.'' -->
 * [[wikipedia:French battleship Bretagne|[Wikipedia] French battleship Bretagne]]
-* [https://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/5968.html <nowiki>[uboat.net]</nowiki> FR Bretagne
+* [https://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/5968.html <nowiki>[uboat.net]</nowiki> FR Bretagne]
 * [http://navypedia.org/ships/france/fr_bb_bretagne.htm <nowiki>[NAVYPEDIA]</nowiki> BRETAGNE battleships (1915 - 1916)]
 {{ShipManufacturer Arsenal de Brest}}
 {{France battleships}}

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 === Mobility ===
-Maximum Speed in Arcade Battles (km/h) Foward is 46. Reverse 29.
+{{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}
+<!-- ''Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.'' -->
-Maximum Speed in Realistic/Simulator Battles (km/h) Foward is 40. Reverse 25.
+''Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.''
 {{NavalMobility}}
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 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.'' -->
 * [[wikipedia:French battleship Bretagne|[Wikipedia] French battleship Bretagne]]
 * [https://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/5968.html <nowiki>[uboat.net]</nowiki> FR Bretagne]

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 <!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French battleship {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Alpha Strike"]].
 == General info ==
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 '''Pros:'''
+*
 '''Cons:'''
+*
 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''
+By 1910, the previously competitive French Navy was considerably behind major naval powers such as Britain, Germany & the USA in terms of capital ships, having not yet laid down a single dreadnought type warship whilst the Kaiserliche Marine had built 8 dreadnoughts and a battlecruiser, the United States Navy had built 6 dreadnoughts and the Royal Navy had built 10 dreadnoughts and 5 battlecruisers, and that's ignoring the additional capital ships the nations also had under construction at the time. Even the Imperial Russian Navy had four of its first dreadnought class under construction at the time and Brazil owned two dreadnoughts which Britain had finished construction of that same year. It was only in late 1910 that the first of the 4 French Courbet class dreadnoughts had been laid down, meanwhile other major powers were continually producing and planning yet more capital ships.
 == Media ==
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 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
 ''Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the ship;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
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 * ''other literature.'' -->
 ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.''