Breda Mod. 38 (8 mm) - Revision history

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 * [[M1919A4 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M1919A4]] - American machine gun which runs on very long belts that allow it to fire for extended periods of time (even longer than the MG34) before reloading. The M1919A4 utilizes more armour-piercing rounds in its belts than the Breda.
-* [[MG34 (7.92 mm)|7.92 mm MG34]] - German machine gun that can sustain a high rate of fire of around 900 rpm, vs the Breda Mod. 38 with its 550 rpm rate of fire. The MG34 runs on belts which allow it to fire for longer periods without reloading - something that the Breda struggles with. The high ROF also means that tracer rounds appear more often, which means that it can be easier to correct aim.
+* [[MG34 (7.92 mm)|7.92 mm MG34]] - German machine gun that can sustain a high rate of fire of around 900 rpm, vs the Breda Mod. 38 with its 550 rpm rate of fire. The MG34 runs on belts which allow it to fire for longer periods without reloading - something that the Breda struggles with. The high rate of fire also means that tracer rounds appear more often, which means that it can be easier to correct aim.
 * [[DT (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm DT]] - Soviet machine gun which uses pan magazines which have around 40 more rounds of ammunition than the Breda Mod. 38.
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 '''Notable mounts'''
-The Breda Mod. 38 is featured all over the [[M13/40 (Family)|M13]], [[M14/41|M14]], and [[M15/42|M15]] medium tank series. If all of the machine guns were functional, the [[M13/40 (I)]] would almost have the most machine guns of any reserve tank (1x roof, 1x turret coaxial, 2x bow/hull), second only to the American [[M2A4]].
+The Breda Mod. 38 is featured all over the [[M13/40 (Family)|M13]], [[M14/41|M14]], and [[M15/42|M15]] medium tank series. If all of the machine guns were functional, the [[M13/40 (I)]] would almost have the most machine guns of any reserve tank (1 x roof, 1 x turret coaxial, 2 x bow/hull), second only to the American [[M2A4]].
 The [[75/46 M43|Semovente 75/46 M43]] is the first in the [[M43 (Family)|M43]] series to feature a machine gun. Despite its downsides, the Breda 38 can be refreshingly useful for self-defence and target marking on this vehicle. Unlike the medium tank mounts before it, this Breda 38 is pintle-mounted and can achieve both vertical and horizontal traverse.
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 In the [[M11/39]], the Breda 38 is featured in a twin mount inside of a fully operational, small turret on the roof of the vehicle. These guns are fired and loaded solely by the commander. Although the vertical elevation is not great, these can be used as a makeshift anti-aircraft weapon. A similar mount to the M11/39's was commonly fitted in the CV-35 tankette for anti-infantry use.
-In the [[Breda 501]], two Breda 38s are mounted on independent pintle mounts on the rear of the vehicle facing backwards over the engine deck, in similar fashion to the American [[LVT(A)(1)]]. These guns can be selected by players and used to defend the vehicle against unarmoured targets or low-flying planes attacking from the rear, similar to aircraft tail gunners. Two of the Breda 501's five crewmembers are allocated to these guns and can be swapped out for knocked-out gun or driver crew if needed.
+In the [[Breda 501]], two Breda 38s are mounted on independent pintle mounts on the rear of the vehicle facing backwards over the engine deck, in similar fashion to the American [[LVT(A)(1)]]. These guns can be selected by players and used to defend the vehicle against unarmoured targets or low-flying planes attacking from the rear, similar to aircraft tail gunners. Two of the Breda 501's five crew members are allocated to these guns and can be swapped out for knocked-out gun or driver crew if needed.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 On September 3rd, 1943, Italy signed the Armistice of Cassibile with the Allies, effectively ending Italy's participation as an Axis power. Nazi Germany and the remainders of fascist Italy still fought on however, so the Germans quickly captured and reused many former Italian Army vehicles and weaponry. In German hands, the Breda Mod. 38 was designated the Kampfwagen-Maschinengewehr 350(i), or "Fighting vehicle machine gun 350 (italy)". It was used by the Wehrmacht in captured Italian tanks, as the weapon was designed to be used, until the end of the war in 1945.
-Although discontinued by Breda and not used in tank designs for the the post-war Escerito Italiano, Breda Mod. 38 machine guns were still in use with [[M13/40 (Family)|M13/40]] medium tanks refurbished and used by Egypt in the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. The Royal Afghan Army also used Breda 38s in their CV-35 tankettes until the late 1950s, likely when the unusual 8 mm ammunition started to run out.
+Although discontinued by Breda and not used in tank designs for the post-war Esercito Italiano, Breda Mod. 38 machine guns were still in use with [[M13/40 (Family)|M13/40]] medium tanks refurbished and used by Egypt in the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. The Royal Afghan Army also used Breda 38s in their CV-35 tankettes until the late 1950s, likely when the unusual 8 mm ammunition started to run out.
 The original Breda Mod.37, however, chambered in 7.92 mm Mauser, was used by the Portuguese Army into the 1960s.

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 <!-- ''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.'' -->
-The '''8 mm Breda Mod. 38''', (or "Mitragliatrice Breda calibro 8 modello 38 per carri armati" in Italian) was a top magazine-fed machine gun used on tanks by the Regio Esercito (Italian Royal Army) during WWII, developed from the Breda Mod.37 machine gun.
+The '''8 mm Breda Mod. 38''', (or "Mitragliatrice Breda calibro 8 modello 38 per carri armati" in Italian) was a top magazine-fed machine gun used on tanks by the Regio Esercito (Italian Royal Army) during WWII, developed from the Breda Mod.37 machine gun. This weapon is present in-game on many light tanks, medium tanks, and a few tank destroyers in the Italian tech tree from Rank I-III.
 In-game, its most often featured in both coaxial and anti-aircraft mounts, with the latter being fitted with forward-facing casing deflectors and left mounted "cartwheel" AA sights. The Breda Mod. 38 does not use a shoulder stock and utilizes vertical, top-feeding 24-round box magazines.
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 === Comparison with analogues ===
 <!-- ''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.'' -->
-[[M1919A4 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M1919A4]] - American machine gun which runs on very long belts that allow it to fire for extended periods of time (even longer than the MG34) before reloading. The M1919A4 utilizes more armour-piercing rounds in its belts than the Breda.
+* [[M1919A4 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M1919A4]] - American machine gun which runs on very long belts that allow it to fire for extended periods of time (even longer than the MG34) before reloading. The M1919A4 utilizes more armour-piercing rounds in its belts than the Breda.
-[[MG34 (7.92 mm)|7.92 mm MG34]] - German machine gun that can sustain a high rate of fire of around 900 rpm, vs the Breda Mod. 38 with its 550 rpm rate of fire. The MG34 runs on belts which allow it to fire for longer periods without reloading - something that the Breda struggles with. The high ROF also means that tracer rounds appear more often, which means that it can be easier to correct aim.
+* [[MG34 (7.92 mm)|7.92 mm MG34]] - German machine gun that can sustain a high rate of fire of around 900 rpm, vs the Breda Mod. 38 with its 550 rpm rate of fire. The MG34 runs on belts which allow it to fire for longer periods without reloading - something that the Breda struggles with. The high ROF also means that tracer rounds appear more often, which means that it can be easier to correct aim.
-[[DT (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm DT]] - Soviet machine gun which uses pan magazines which have around 40 more rounds of ammunition than the Breda Mod. 38.
+* [[DT (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm DT]] - Soviet machine gun which uses pan magazines which have around 40 more rounds of ammunition than the Breda Mod. 38.
-[[BESA (7.92 mm)|7.92 mm BESA]] - British machine gun that uses long belts, similar to the M1919A4, which allow it to fire for long periods before reloading.
+* [[BESA (7.92 mm)|7.92 mm BESA]] - British machine gun that uses long belts, similar to the M1919A4, which allow it to fire for long periods before reloading.
-[[Type 97 (7.7 mm)|7.7 mm Type 97]] - Japanese machine gun that uses 20-round box magazines. Out of all nations' standard WWII coaxial machine guns, the Type 97 is probably the most similar to the Breda Mod. 38. Using just slightly less ammunition and with a similar rate of fire, this gun runs out of ammunition even more often than even the Breda, forcing the user to have to reload every few seconds. Players who know how to use the 7.7 mm Type 97 effectively will know how to use the Breda 38, and vice versa.
+* [[Type 97 (7.7 mm)|7.7 mm Type 97]] - Japanese machine gun that uses 20-round box magazines. Out of all nations' standard WWII coaxial machine guns, the Type 97 is probably the most similar to the Breda Mod. 38. Using just slightly less ammunition and with a similar rate of fire, this gun runs out of ammunition even more often than even the Breda, forcing the user to have to reload every few seconds. Players who know how to use the 7.7 mm Type 97 effectively will know how to use the Breda 38, and vice versa.
-[[MAC 31 (7.5 mm)|7.5 mm MAC 31]]- French machine gun with a large drum magazine. This machine gun has a lot more ammunition but can have a similar fire rate to the Breda 38.
+* [[MAC 31 (7.5 mm)|7.5 mm MAC 31]]- French machine gun with a large drum magazine. This machine gun has a lot more ammunition but can have a similar fire rate to the Breda 38.
-[[Ksp m/36 (8 mm)|8 mm Ksp m/36]] - Swedish copy of the M1919A4 chambered in the 8x63 mm patron m/32 cartridge. This gun is very similar to the M1919A4 in performance.
+* [[Ksp m/36 (8 mm)|8 mm Ksp m/36]] - Swedish copy of the M1919A4 chambered in the 8x63 mm patron m/32 cartridge. This gun is very similar to the M1919A4 in performance.
 == Usage in battles ==

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 === Comparison with analogues ===
 <!-- ''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.'' -->
-[[DT (7.62 mm)|DT]] - Soviet machine gun which uses pan magazines which have around 40 more rounds of ammunition than the Breda Mod. 38.
+[[M1919A4 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M1919A4]] - American machine gun which runs on very long belts that allow it to fire for extended periods of time (even longer than the MG34) before reloading. The M1919A4 utilizes more armour-piercing rounds in its belts than the Breda.
-[[MG34 (7.92 mm)|MG34]] - German machine gun that can sustain a high rate of fire of around 900 rpm, vs the Breda Mod. 38 with its 550 rpm rate of fire. The MG34 runs on belts which allow it to fire for longer periods without reloading - something that the Breda struggles with. The high ROF also means that tracer rounds appear more often, which means that it can be easier to correct aim.
+[[MG34 (7.92 mm)|7.92 mm MG34]] - German machine gun that can sustain a high rate of fire of around 900 rpm, vs the Breda Mod. 38 with its 550 rpm rate of fire. The MG34 runs on belts which allow it to fire for longer periods without reloading - something that the Breda struggles with. The high ROF also means that tracer rounds appear more often, which means that it can be easier to correct aim.
-[[M1919A4 (7.62 mm)|M1919A4]] - American machine gun which runs on very long belts that allow it to fire for extended periods of time (even longer than the MG34) before reloading. The M1919A4 utilizes more armour-piercing rounds in its belts than the Breda.
+[[DT (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm DT]] - Soviet machine gun which uses pan magazines which have around 40 more rounds of ammunition than the Breda Mod. 38.
-[[BESA (7.92 mm)|BESA]] - British machine gun that uses long belts, similar to the M1919A4, which allow it to fire for long periods before reloading.
+[[BESA (7.92 mm)|7.92 mm BESA]] - British machine gun that uses long belts, similar to the M1919A4, which allow it to fire for long periods before reloading.
-[[Ksp m/36 (8 mm)|Ksp m/36]] - Swedish copy of the M1919A4 chambered in the 8x63 mm patron m/32 cartridge. This gun is very similar to the M1919A4 in performance.
+[[Type 97 (7.7 mm)|7.7 mm Type 97]] - Japanese machine gun that uses 20-round box magazines. Out of all nations' standard WWII coaxial machine guns, the Type 97 is probably the most similar to the Breda Mod. 38. Using just slightly less ammunition and with a similar rate of fire, this gun runs out of ammunition even more often than even the Breda, forcing the user to have to reload every few seconds. Players who know how to use the 7.7 mm Type 97 effectively will know how to use the Breda 38, and vice versa.
-[[MAC 31 (7.5 mm)|MAC 31]]- French machine gun with a large drum magazine. This machine gun has a lot more ammunition but can have a similar fire rate to the Breda 38.
+[[MAC 31 (7.5 mm)|7.5 mm MAC 31]]- French machine gun with a large drum magazine. This machine gun has a lot more ammunition but can have a similar fire rate to the Breda 38.
-[[Type 97 (7.7 mm)]] - Japanese machine gun that uses 20-round box magazines. Out of all nations' standard WWII coaxial machine guns, the Type 97 is probably the most similar to the Breda Mod. 38. Using just slightly less ammunition and with a similar rate of fire, this gun runs out of ammunition even more often than even the Breda, forcing the user to have to reload every few seconds. Players who know how to use the 7.7 mm Type 97 effectively will know how to use the Breda 38, and vice versa.
+[[Ksp m/36 (8 mm)|8 mm Ksp m/36]] - Swedish copy of the M1919A4 chambered in the 8x63 mm patron m/32 cartridge. This gun is very similar to the M1919A4 in performance.
 == Usage in battles ==

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 * [http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/ttt07/italian-breda-machine-gun.html <nowiki>[Lone Sentry]</nowiki> Italian 8-mm Breda Machine Gun, Model 38]
-* [https://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.php?smallarms_id=1037 <nowiki>[Military]</nowiki> Factory Breda Modello 37 (M37)]
+* [https://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.php?smallarms_id=1037 <nowiki>[Military Factory]</nowiki> Breda Modello 37 (M37)]
 * [https://comandosupremo.com/breda-modello-37/ <nowiki>[Comando Supremo]</nowiki> Breda Modello 37]

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-[[File:Breda Mod. 38.png|550px|thumb|right|The Breda Mod. 38 on the 75/46 M43]]
+[[File:Breda Mod. 38.png|x280px|thumb|right|The Breda Mod. 38 on the 75/46 M43]]
 == Description ==
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