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 Semple is quoted as saying:
-{{Quote|That tank was an honest-to-God effort to do something with the material at our disposal when raider were at our back door… instead of sitting down and moaning we felt we ought to do something to manufacture weapons that would help to defend our country and our people.<ref name="NZHeraldSemple">"Criticism of Tanks, Mr. Semple in Reply."New Zealand Herald'', 29 Oct 1941, p. 6''</ref>''}}
+{{Quote|That tank was an honest-to-God effort to do something with the material at our disposal when raider were at our back door… instead of sitting down and moaning we felt we ought to do something to manufacture weapons that would help to defend our country and our people.<ref name="NZHeraldSemple">"Criticism of Tanks, Mr. Semple in Reply." [https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19411029.2.64 New Zealand Herald]'', 29 Oct 1941, p. 6''</ref>''}}
 ===Bob Semple Tank (37 mm Gun) ===

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 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
 ===Robert "Bob" Semple ===
-Robert "Bob" Semple was born in Sofala, New South Wales, Australia, on 21 October 1873. He attended the school in Sofala but began working at the Lithgow coal mines when he was only nine years old. He worked in various mines throughout the 1880's and 1890's. On 27 June 1898, Robert Semple was married to Margaret MacNair in Outtrim, Victoria. They moved around for a while after settling down originally in Western Australia then Victoria before ending up in Gippsland. It was there that he was involved in a miners' strike in 1903 which was defeated. Blacklisted after the strike, Semple left the country for New Zealand's South Island.<!--[[File:Nlnzimage (1).jpg|thumb|312x312px|Robert "Bob" Semple on a tractor, circa 1935-1940.|left]]-->
+Robert "Bob" Semple was born in Sofala, New South Wales, Australia, on 21 October 1873. He attended the school in Sofala but began working at the Lithgow coal mines when he was only nine years old. He worked in various mines throughout the 1880's and 1890's. On 27 June 1898, Robert Semple was married to Margaret MacNair in Outtrim, Victoria. They moved around for a while after settling down originally in Western Australia then Victoria before ending up in Gippsland. It was there that he was involved in a miners' strike in 1903 which was defeated. Blacklisted after the strike, Semple left the country for New Zealand's South Island.[[File:Nlnzimage (1).jpg|thumb|312x312px|Robert "Bob" Semple on a tractor, circa 1935-1940.|left]]
 There, Semple was employed at the state owned Runanga coal mine. Semple became embroiled in the coal miner unionism of the time. He became the president of the Runanga Miners' Union by 1907. In 1913 he was arrested for supporting the thought of a nation wide coal miner strike, and he moved to Wellington after his release. In 1916 he was once again arrested and served 12 months of jail time for speaking out against conscription. In 1918 he was elected as a representative from Wellington South to the New Zealand Parliament, representing the New Zealand Labor Party. In 1919, Semple was not reelected to his position in parliament. In 1925 he ended up as the Labour representative to the Wellington City Council until 1935. He once again was elected to the New Zealand Parliament in 1928.
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 ===Idea/concept ===
-<!--[[File:Nlnzimage.jpg|thumb|263x263px|Robert Semple on a Caterpillar diesel bulldozer, 1939.]]-->Since New Zealand was in danger of a potential Japanese invasion during the Second World War, the NZ Ministry of Defense began looking for a potential tank with which to defend itself. Bob Semple, then the New Zealand Minister of Public Works, saw a photograph of a tractor tank conversion built in the United States. This inspired him to begin the process to design a domestic New Zealand tractor-tank conversion, one which would later take his name.
+[[File:Nlnzimage.jpg|thumb|263x263px|Robert Semple on a Caterpillar diesel bulldozer, 1939.]]
 Note: It is quite possible that the American tractor tank Semple saw was the Disston Tractor Tank which was produced in the US during the 1930s. The Disston Tractor Tank was sold to Afghanistan and marketed to other nations such as Kuwait and Romania. Some of the Afghan Disston Tractor Tanks still exist today in varying states of disrepair in Afghan scrap yards.<ref name=":0">https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/NewZealand/Bob_Semple_Tank.php</ref>
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 === Design ===
-<!--[[File:Nlnzimage (2).jpg|left|thumb|284x284px|Bob Semple Tank]]-->
+[[File:Nlnzimage (2).jpg|left|thumb|284x284px|Bob Semple Tank]]
 The tank had a very large, rectangular profile with a height of 12 feet. It had a weight of 18 tonnes. The crew complement was six to eight men, including the driver and five machine gunners (one in the turret), with two more places available for crew members if wanted.
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 ===What happened to it after this? ===
-<!--[[File:Nlnzimage (4).jpg|left|thumb|252x252px|New Zealand Valentine Tank]]-->
+[[File:Nlnzimage (4).jpg|left|thumb|252x252px|New Zealand Valentine Tank]]
-Two of the Bob Semple tanks were given to the New Zealand Army at some point with their turrets removed, since no cannon had been acquired which would be suitable for the turret. The threat of Japanese invasion faded during the war, and with the delivery of British-manufactured Valentine tanks and local production of the Bren Carrier, there was no longer a need for the local development of a tank. General Puttick recommended that the program be closed and production end, while the ones that were built could be used simply for beach defense.
+Two of the Bob Semple tanks were given to the New Zealand Army at some point with their turrets removed, since no cannon had been acquired which would be suitable for the turret. The threat of Japanese invasion faded during the war, and with the delivery of British-manufactured [[Valentine I|Valentine tanks]] and local production of the Bren Carrier, there was no longer a need for the local development of a tank. General Puttick recommended that the program be closed and production end, while the ones that were built could be used simply for beach defense.
 The two tanks that were given to the New Zealand Army had their armour removed and were able to be returned to civilian use. The third, which had previously remained at Auckland, was supposedly used in the Pacific with a dozer blade fitted but there unfortunately isn’t any photographic evidence.
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 === Fatal Flaws ===
-Due to the Bob Semple tank being built on the basis of a tractor, the armour was relatively light. At most it protected from heavy machine gun or 20 mm cannon fire, but even rifle caliber ammunition could penetrate through the machine gun ports. The tractor base also limited the mobility as the driver had to bring the vehicle to a full stop in order to even shift gears. With the heavy weight of 18 tons with the turret mounted, the Bob Semple could only reach a speed of 7.5 miles per hour or about 12 kilometers per hour.<!--[[File:Nlnzimage (3).jpg|thumb|293x293px|Bob Semple Tank]]-->Not only did the tractor basis limit the armour and mobility of the Bob Semple, but the vehicle was very tall at 12 feet with the turret mounted. This made it a very large target for enemy fire. The firepower of the Bob Semple was also sub-par, consisting only of six .303 calibre Bren machine guns. No heavier anti-tank or infantry support weapon was mounted due to a lack of supply.
+Due to the Bob Semple tank being built on the basis of a tractor, the armour was relatively light. At most it protected from heavy machine gun or 20 mm cannon fire, but even rifle caliber ammunition could penetrate through the machine gun ports. The tractor base also limited the mobility as the driver had to bring the vehicle to a full stop in order to even shift gears. With the heavy weight of 18 tons with the turret mounted, the Bob Semple could only reach a speed of 7.5 miles per hour or about 12 kilometers per hour.[[File:Nlnzimage (3).jpg|thumb|293x293px|Bob Semple Tank]] Not only did the tractor basis limit the armour and mobility of the Bob Semple, but the vehicle was very tall at 12 feet with the turret mounted. This made it a very large target for enemy fire. The firepower of the Bob Semple was also sub-par, consisting only of six .303 calibre Bren machine guns. No heavier anti-tank or infantry support weapon was mounted due to a lack of supply.
 Also, it can be seen from video and photographic evidence that the Bob Semple tank did not feature a hatch of any sort on the turret roof. This would mean that the vehicle crew would have a very limited view of their surroundings and also that the turret crew would have to exit the vehicle through the single rear door, meaning they would have a very hard time escaping the vehicle if it was on fire.
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 ===Bob Semple Tank (37 mm Gun) ===
-It was always envisioned by the New Zealand Army that the vehicle would be fitted with a 37 mm gun in the turret. Unfortunately, weapons of that type, such as the British 40 mm QF 2 pounder gun, were in very short supply, so a 37 mm gun was never fitted and was replaced in the turret by a .303 caliber Bren machine gun (the turret was later removed when the vehicles were delivered to the New Zealand Army). It is unknown exactly what tank gun was considered by the New Zealand Army to be fitted in the Bob Semple, but it is quite possible that the American 37 mm M3 anti-tank gun - used on the American M3/M5 Stuart as well as the M8 Greyhound - was considered.<ref name=":0" />
+It was always envisioned by the New Zealand Army that the vehicle would be fitted with a 37 mm gun in the turret. Unfortunately, weapons of that type, such as the British [[QF 2-pounder (40 mm)|40 mm QF 2 pounder gun]], were in very short supply, so a 37 mm gun was never fitted and was replaced in the turret by a .303 caliber Bren machine gun (the turret was later removed when the vehicles were delivered to the New Zealand Army). It is unknown exactly what tank gun was considered by the New Zealand Army to be fitted in the Bob Semple, but it is quite possible that the American [[M3 (37 mm)|37 mm M3]] anti-tank gun - used on the American [[M3 Stuart|M3]]/[[M5A1|M5 Stuart]] as well as the [[M8|M8 Greyhound]] - was considered.<ref name=":0" />
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 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
 ===Robert "Bob" Semple ===
-Robert "Bob" Semple was born in Sofala, New South Wales, Australia, on 21 October 1873. He attended the school in Sofala but began working at the Lithgow coal mines when he was only nine years old. He worked in various mines throughout the 1880's and 1890's. On 27 June 1898, Robert Semple was married to Margaret MacNair in Outtrim, Victoria. They moved around for a while after settling down originally in Western Australia then Victoria before ending up in Gippsland. It was there that he was involved in a miners' strike in 1903 which was defeated. Blacklisted after the strike, Semple left the country for New Zealand's South Island.[[File:Nlnzimage (1).jpg|thumb|312x312px|Robert "Bob" Semple on a tractor, circa 1935-1940.|left]]
+Robert "Bob" Semple was born in Sofala, New South Wales, Australia, on 21 October 1873. He attended the school in Sofala but began working at the Lithgow coal mines when he was only nine years old. He worked in various mines throughout the 1880's and 1890's. On 27 June 1898, Robert Semple was married to Margaret MacNair in Outtrim, Victoria. They moved around for a while after settling down originally in Western Australia then Victoria before ending up in Gippsland. It was there that he was involved in a miners' strike in 1903 which was defeated. Blacklisted after the strike, Semple left the country for New Zealand's South Island.<!--[[File:Nlnzimage (1).jpg|thumb|312x312px|Robert "Bob" Semple on a tractor, circa 1935-1940.|left]]-->
 There, Semple was employed at the state owned Runanga coal mine. Semple became embroiled in the coal miner unionism of the time. He became the president of the Runanga Miners' Union by 1907. In 1913 he was arrested for supporting the thought of a nation wide coal miner strike, and he moved to Wellington after his release. In 1916 he was once again arrested and served 12 months of jail time for speaking out against conscription. In 1918 he was elected as a representative from Wellington South to the New Zealand Parliament, representing the New Zealand Labor Party. In 1919, Semple was not reelected to his position in parliament. In 1925 he ended up as the Labour representative to the Wellington City Council until 1935. He once again was elected to the New Zealand Parliament in 1928.
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 ===Idea/concept ===
-[[File:Nlnzimage.jpg|thumb|263x263px|Robert Semple on a Caterpillar diesel bulldozer, 1939.]]Since New Zealand was in danger of a potential Japanese invasion during the Second World War, the NZ Ministry of Defense began looking for a potential tank with which to defend itself. Bob Semple, then the New Zealand Minister of Public Works, saw a photograph of a tractor tank conversion built in the United States. This inspired him to begin the process to design a domestic New Zealand tractor-tank conversion, one which would later take his name.
+<!--[[File:Nlnzimage.jpg|thumb|263x263px|Robert Semple on a Caterpillar diesel bulldozer, 1939.]]-->Since New Zealand was in danger of a potential Japanese invasion during the Second World War, the NZ Ministry of Defense began looking for a potential tank with which to defend itself. Bob Semple, then the New Zealand Minister of Public Works, saw a photograph of a tractor tank conversion built in the United States. This inspired him to begin the process to design a domestic New Zealand tractor-tank conversion, one which would later take his name.
 Note: It is quite possible that the American tractor tank Semple saw was the Disston Tractor Tank which was produced in the US during the 1930s. The Disston Tractor Tank was sold to Afghanistan and marketed to other nations such as Kuwait and Romania. Some of the Afghan Disston Tractor Tanks still exist today in varying states of disrepair in Afghan scrap yards.<ref name=":0">https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/NewZealand/Bob_Semple_Tank.php</ref>
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 === Design ===
-[[File:Nlnzimage (2).jpg|left|thumb|284x284px|Bob Semple Tank]]
+<!--[[File:Nlnzimage (2).jpg|left|thumb|284x284px|Bob Semple Tank]]-->
 The tank had a very large, rectangular profile with a height of 12 feet. It had a weight of 18 tonnes. The crew complement was six to eight men, including the driver and five machine gunners (one in the turret), with two more places available for crew members if wanted.
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 ===What happened to it after this? ===
-[[File:Nlnzimage (4).jpg|left|thumb|252x252px|New Zealand Valentine Tank]]
+<!--[[File:Nlnzimage (4).jpg|left|thumb|252x252px|New Zealand Valentine Tank]]-->
 Two of the Bob Semple tanks were given to the New Zealand Army at some point with their turrets removed, since no cannon had been acquired which would be suitable for the turret. The threat of Japanese invasion faded during the war, and with the delivery of British-manufactured Valentine tanks and local production of the Bren Carrier, there was no longer a need for the local development of a tank. General Puttick recommended that the program be closed and production end, while the ones that were built could be used simply for beach defense.
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 === Fatal Flaws ===
-Due to the Bob Semple tank being built on the basis of a tractor, the armour was relatively light. At most it protected from heavy machine gun or 20 mm cannon fire, but even rifle caliber ammunition could penetrate through the machine gun ports. The tractor base also limited the mobility as the driver had to bring the vehicle to a full stop in order to even shift gears. With the heavy weight of 18 tons with the turret mounted, the Bob Semple could only reach a speed of 7.5 miles per hour or about 12 kilometers per hour.[[File:Nlnzimage (3).jpg|thumb|293x293px|Bob Semple Tank]]Not only did the tractor basis limit the armour and mobility of the Bob Semple, but the vehicle was very tall at 12 feet with the turret mounted. This made it a very large target for enemy fire. The firepower of the Bob Semple was also sub-par, consisting only of six .303 calibre Bren machine guns. No heavier anti-tank or infantry support weapon was mounted due to a lack of supply.
+Due to the Bob Semple tank being built on the basis of a tractor, the armour was relatively light. At most it protected from heavy machine gun or 20 mm cannon fire, but even rifle caliber ammunition could penetrate through the machine gun ports. The tractor base also limited the mobility as the driver had to bring the vehicle to a full stop in order to even shift gears. With the heavy weight of 18 tons with the turret mounted, the Bob Semple could only reach a speed of 7.5 miles per hour or about 12 kilometers per hour.<!--[[File:Nlnzimage (3).jpg|thumb|293x293px|Bob Semple Tank]]-->Not only did the tractor basis limit the armour and mobility of the Bob Semple, but the vehicle was very tall at 12 feet with the turret mounted. This made it a very large target for enemy fire. The firepower of the Bob Semple was also sub-par, consisting only of six .303 calibre Bren machine guns. No heavier anti-tank or infantry support weapon was mounted due to a lack of supply.
 Also, it can be seen from video and photographic evidence that the Bob Semple tank did not feature a hatch of any sort on the turret roof. This would mean that the vehicle crew would have a very limited view of their surroundings and also that the turret crew would have to exit the vehicle through the single rear door, meaning they would have a very hard time escaping the vehicle if it was on fire.

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 == Media ==
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 == See also ==

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 ===Training Ground===
-Training Ground allows players to explore and see other vehicles, items such as giant foot balls, special items and planes flying overhead. The great thing about training group map is that players have the opportunity to see just how big the Bob Semple is - almost as big as a [[Maus]] and taller than a [[M1A2|M1A2 Abrams MBT]]. Players can also set up a duel with another another Bob Semple, however that Bob Semple is not easy to knock out, players must learn the weak spots to take it out of action while the other vehicles hunt them down.
+Training Ground allows players to explore and see other vehicles, items such as giant foot balls, special items and planes flying overhead. The great thing about training group map is that players have the opportunity to see just how big the Bob Semple is - almost as big as a [[Maus]] and taller than a [[M1A2 Abrams|M1A2 Abrams MBT]]. Players can also set up a duel with another another Bob Semple, however that Bob Semple is not easy to knock out, players must learn the weak spots to take it out of action while the other vehicles hunt them down.
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 ===Super Bob Semple ===
 Well let's talk about this, Bob has been upgraded - the New Zealanders have found a time machine and they have used it. Don't worry, the past is still kind of the same, but the only difference is now New Zealand has CIWIS systems and Derp Cannons that would make [[KV-2 (1939)|KV-2]] cry. Poor old Bob Semple has now become the Big Bob Semple, it's still the same size but it features AK-630s and 152 mm HE shells.

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 ==== Media Defence of New Zealand ====
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+In-game images of the mode:
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+<!--File:Bob_Semple_New_Zealand_Battle_11.jpeg| This is of training ground-->
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