Besposhchadny - Revision history

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 The HE is competent at dealing with coastal vessels and damaging unarmoured components of bluewater vessels; an explosive filler of 483 grams of TNT provides satisfactory damage for the relatively small shell. In spite of this, the HE will still struggle against larger and more armoured targets.
-While the HE-TF may appear attractive as an anti-aircraft shell in conjunction with the high elevation angle of the mount, the HE-TF shell carries significantly less explosive filler than the HE and is thus less useful even with the more versatile fuze installed.
+While the HE-TF may appear attractive as an anti-aircraft shell in conjunction with the high elevation angle of the mount, the HE-TF shell carries significantly less explosive filler than the HE and is thus less useful even with the more versatile fuse installed.
 The final shell choice is the APHEBC which may penetrate targets to deal internal damage. While the APHEBC has good penetration for its calibre, the light explosive filler limits the capability of the shell.

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a Gnevny-class destroyer built for Soviet navy in 1930s. The Gnevny-class was a license built version of the Italian Folgore class inheriting the stability issues due to Soviet design being heavier than the original. Besposhchadny was laid down on 15th May 1936 and comissioned on 2nd October 1939. In June 1941 after German invasion of the Soviet Union, Besposhchadny was laying minefields off Sevastopol. Between August and October, she was hauling supplies and providing naval gunfire support to besieged troops in Odessa during which on 22nd September she was damaged by Ju-87 dive bombers from StG 77. Her bow was nearly blown off by the bombs and she had to be towned into Sevastopol by her sister Soobrazitelny. She was repaired using salvaged bow from destroyer Bystry which sunk. While undergoing repairs, she was again attacked by Ju-87s which started large fire and destroyed her machinery. She had to be towed to Poti by Fidonisy-class destroyer Shaumyan. Her repairs completed in September, she left Poti after the necessary trials in November to shell German troops at Kuban. In February 1943 her task was to transport troops between Tuapse and Gelendzhik during which she ferried 8037 troops. On 6th October 1943 while returning from shore bombardment of Feodosiya, Besposhchadny, her sister Sposobny and Leningrad-class destroyer leader Kharkov came under attack from Ju-87 dive bombers after being spotted by German reconnaisannce plane. Kharkov was damaged by the bombers and Sposobny had to tow her. After second attack, both Kharkov and Besposhchadny were damaged by the bombs and Sposoby had to alternate between towing both. The third attack sank both Kharkov and Besposhchadny. Only 41 crewmen of Besposhchadny survived. This incident lead Stalin to forbid use of destroyer-sized and larger vessels without his direct order.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a Gnevny-class destroyer built for the Soviet navy in the 1930s. The Gnevny class was a license-built version of the Italian Folgore class, inheriting the stability issues due to Soviet design being heavier than the original. Besposhchadny was laid down on 15th May 1936 and commissioned on 2nd October 1939. In June 1941, after the German invasion of the Soviet Union, Besposhchadny was laying minefields off Sevastopol. Between August and October, she was hauling supplies and providing naval gunfire support to besieged troops in Odessa during which on 22nd September she was damaged by Ju 87 dive bombers from StG 77. Her bow was nearly blown off by the bombs and she had to be towed back to Sevastopol by her sister [[Soobrazitelny]]. She was repaired using the salvaged bow from the sunk destroyer Bystry. While undergoing repairs, she was again attacked by Ju 87s, which started a large fire and destroyed her machinery. She had to be towed to Poti by Fidonisy-class destroyer Shaumyan. Her repairs completed in September, she left Poti after the necessary trials in November to shell German troops at Kuban. In February 1943, her task was to transport troops between Tuapse and Gelendzhik during which she ferried 8,037 troops. On 6th October 1943, while returning from shore bombardment of Feodosiya, Besposhchadny, her sister Sposobny, and Leningrad-class destroyer leader Kharkov came under attack from Ju 87 dive bombers after being spotted by a German reconnaissance plane. Kharkov was damaged by the bombers and Sposobny had to tow her. After a second attack, both Kharkov and Besposhchadny were damaged by the bombs and Sposoby had to alternate between towing both. The third attack sank both Kharkov and Besposhchadny. Only 41 crewmen of Besposhchadny survived. This incident led Stalin to forbid the use of destroyer-sized and larger vessels without his direct order.
-The Besposhchadny was introduced in [[Update "Fire and Ice"]]. As the main armament of all Project 7 destroyers is manually driven, the turrets suffer from poor traverse speed rendering these difficult when switching targets. The guns itself are also protected only by 8 mm thick antifragmentation armour covering sides, front and top side. As with most destroyers from other navies aswell, Gnevny-class is no exception, featuring unarmoured magazines above waterline leading to fatal explosion when hit. Her boilers and transmission also takes nearly entire length of ship past the bridge. Being hit into these spaces will damage or disable the machinery, leaving the ship dead in water.
+The Besposhchadny was introduced in [[Update "Fire and Ice"]]. As the main armament of all Project 7 destroyers is manually driven, the turrets suffer from poor traverse speed rendering these difficult when switching targets. The guns itself are also protected only by 8 mm thick antifragmentation armour covering sides, front and top side. As with most destroyers from other navies as well, Gnevny-class features unarmoured magazines above waterline, which will lead to fatal explosion when hit. Her boilers and transmission also take nearly the entire length of the ship past the bridge. Being hit in these spaces will damage or disable the machinery, leaving the ship dead in the water.
 == General info ==

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a Gnevny-class destroyer built for Soviet navy in 1930s. The Gnevny-class was a license built version of the Italian Folgore class inheriting the stability issues due to Soviet design being heavier than the original. Besposhchadny was laid down on 15th May 1936 and comissioned on 2nd October 1939. In June 1941 after German invasion of the Soviet Union, Besposhchadny was laying minefields off Sevastopol. Between August and October, she was hauling supplies and providing naval gunfire support to besieged troops in Odessa during which on 22nd September she was damaged by Ju-87 dive bombers from StG 77. Her bow was nearly blown off by the bombs and she had to be towned into Sevastopol by her sister Soobrazitelny. She was repaired using salvaged bow from destroyer Bystry which sunk. While undergoing repairs, she was again attacked by Ju-87s which started large fire and destroyed her machinery. She had to be towed to Poti by Fidonisy-class destroyer Shaumyan. Her repairs completed in September, she left Poti after the necessary trials in November to shell German troops at Kuban. In February 1943 her task was to transport troops between Tuapse and Gelendzhik during which she ferried 8037 troops. On 6th October 1943 while returning from shore bombardment of Feodosiya, Besposhchadny, her sister Sposobny and Leningrad-class destroyer leader Kharkov came under attack from Ju-87 dive bombers after being spotted by German reconnaisannce plane. Kharkov was damaged by the bombers and Sposobny had to tow her. After second attack, both Kharkov and Besposhchadny were damaged by the bombs and Sposoby had to alternate between towing both. The third attack sank both Kharkov and Besposhchadny. Only 41 crewmen of Besposhchadny survived. This incident lead Stalin to forbid use of destroyer-sized and larger vessels without his direct order.
-The Besposhchadny was introduced in [[Update "Fire and Ice"]]. As the main armament of all Type 7 destroyers is manually driven, the turrets suffer from poor traverse speed rendering these difficult when switching targets. The guns itself are also protected only by 8 mm thick antifragmentation armour covering sides, front and top side. As with most destroyers from other navies aswell, Gnevny-class is no exception, featuring unarmoured magazines above waterline leading to fatal explosion when hit. Her boilers and transmission also takes nearly entire length of ship past the bridge. Being hit into these spaces will damage or disable the machinery, leaving the ship dead in water.
+The Besposhchadny was introduced in [[Update "Fire and Ice"]]. As the main armament of all Project 7 destroyers is manually driven, the turrets suffer from poor traverse speed rendering these difficult when switching targets. The guns itself are also protected only by 8 mm thick antifragmentation armour covering sides, front and top side. As with most destroyers from other navies aswell, Gnevny-class is no exception, featuring unarmoured magazines above waterline leading to fatal explosion when hit. Her boilers and transmission also takes nearly entire length of ship past the bridge. Being hit into these spaces will damage or disable the machinery, leaving the ship dead in water.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Fire and Ice"]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a Gnevny-class destroyer built for Soviet navy in 1930s. The Gnevny-class was a license built version of the Italian Folgore class inheriting the stability issues due to Soviet design being heavier than the original. Besposhchadny was laid down on 15th May 1936 and comissioned on 2nd October 1939. In June 1941 after German invasion of the Soviet Union, Besposhchadny was laying minefields off Sevastopol. Between August and October, she was hauling supplies and providing naval gunfire support to besieged troops in Odessa during which on 22nd September she was damaged by Ju-87 dive bombers from StG 77. Her bow was nearly blown off by the bombs and she had to be towned into Sevastopol by her sister Soobrazitelny. She was repaired using salvaged bow from destroyer Bystry which sunk. While undergoing repairs, she was again attacked by Ju-87s which started large fire and destroyed her machinery. She had to be towed to Poti by Fidonisy-class destroyer Shaumyan. Her repairs completed in September, she left Poti after the necessary trials in November to shell German troops at Kuban. In February 1943 her task was to transport troops between Tuapse and Gelendzhik during which she ferried 8037 troops. On 6th October 1943 while returning from shore bombardment of Feodosiya, Besposhchadny, her sister Sposobny and Leningrad-class destroyer leader Kharkov came under attack from Ju-87 dive bombers after being spotted by German reconnaisannce plane. Kharkov was damaged by the bombers and Sposobny had to tow her. After second attack, both Kharkov and Besposhchadny were damaged by the bombs and Sposoby had to alternate between towing both. The third attack sank both Kharkov and Besposhchadny. Only 41 crewmen of Besposhchadny survived. This incident lead Stalin to forbid use of destroyer-sized and larger vessels without his direct order.
-A Project 7 Gnevny-class destroyer, the Besposhchadny was ordered under the Second Five-Year Plan and designed with assistance from Italian shipbuilders as a smaller and more affordable alternative to the contemporary Leningrad-class destroyer leaders of the Soviet navy. The Gnevny-class design was based off of the Italian Folgore-class destroyers, and inherited the stability issues of the Italian design as well.
+The Besposhchadny was introduced in [[Update "Fire and Ice"]]. As the main armament of all Type 7 destroyers is manually driven, the turrets suffer from poor traverse speed rendering these difficult when switching targets. The guns itself are also protected only by 8 mm thick antifragmentation armour covering sides, front and top side. As with most destroyers from other navies aswell, Gnevny-class is no exception, featuring unarmoured magazines above waterline leading to fatal explosion when hit. Her boilers and transmission also takes nearly entire length of ship past the bridge. Being hit into these spaces will damage or disable the machinery, leaving the ship dead in water.
 == General info ==

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 The Besposhchadny was a destroyer of the Project 7, Gnevny-class, commissioned on the 2nd of October 1939. The Project 7 destroyers were intended to function as cheaper and more numerous traditional destroyers that were led by the larger and more expensive Project 1, Leningrad-class destroyer leaders. This plan was inhibited by the lack of experience that the Soviet Navy had with designing and building modern (for the time) destroyers. Cognizant of this limitation, the Soviet Navy consulted more experienced Italian shipbuilders in order to overcome their inexperience. The Soviets purchased plans for the Italian Folgore-class destroyers as a base for what would become the Gnevny-class.
-The design for the Gnevny-class had a length of 112.8 meters, a beam of 10.2 meters, and draft of 4.8 meters. They had a crew of 197 to 236, during peacetime and wartime, respectively. The ships were powered by two geared steam turbines with a rating of 48,000 shaft horsepower and a speed of 37 knots. The Gnevny-class had 4 single-mounted 130mm guns, 2 76.2mm AA guns, 2 45mm AA guns, 2 12.7mm machine guns, 6 533mm torpedo tubes, and a capacity for 60 to 95 mines and 25 depth charges. The ships were also equipped with anti-submarine equipment including Mars hydrophones, K-1 paravanes, and depth-charge throwers.
+The design for the Gnevny-class had a length of 112.8 metres, a beam of 10.2 metres, and draft of 4.8 metres. They had a crew of 197 to 236, during peacetime and wartime, respectively. The ships were powered by two geared steam turbines with a rating of 48,000 shaft horsepower and a speed of 37 knots. The Gnevny-class had four single-mounted 130 mm guns, two 76.2 mm AA guns, two 45 mm AA guns, two 12.7 mm machine guns, six 533 mm torpedo tubes, and a capacity for 60 to 95 mines and 25 depth charges. The ships were also equipped with anti-submarine equipment including Mars hydrophones, K-1 paravanes, and depth-charge throwers.
 Built at Nikolayev's Shipyard No. 198, Besposhchadny was laid down on 15 May 1936 and completed on 22 August 1939. She was commissioned into the Black Sea Fleet on 2 October 1939. When Germany invaded the Soviet Union on 22 June 1941, Besposhchadny was part of the 2nd Destroyer Division of the Black Sea Fleet. It laid defensive mines off Sevastopol, attempted to interdict Axis shipping near Fidonisi, and provided escort and support duties. The ship received the Order of the Red Banner for her contribution to the defense of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. It participated in fire support and amphibious operations until she was sunk by German air attacks on 6 October 1943.
-In July 1941, Besposhchadny ran aground and sustained propeller damage, but it was repaired and continued escorting cargo ships, providing gunfire support, and evacuating ships from shipyards. During an amphibious landing at Grigorievka in September 1941, the destroyer was attacked by Junkers Ju 87 Stuka dive bombers, severely damaging it. After emergency repairs, it was towed to Sevastopol and further repaired using parts from a sunken sister ship. While the Besposhchadny was being repaired, she was awarded the Order of the Red Banner for her contribution to the defense of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic.
+In July 1941, Besposhchadny ran aground and sustained propeller damage, but it was repaired and continued escorting cargo ships, providing gunfire support, and evacuating ships from shipyards. During an amphibious landing at Grigorievka in September 1941, the destroyer was attacked by Junkers Ju 87 Stuka dive bombers, severely damaging it. After emergency repairs, it was towed to Sevastopol and further repaired using parts from a sunken sister ship. While the Besposhchadny was being repaired, she was awarded the Order of the Red Banner for her contribution to the defense of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic.
-On the night of 5/6 October 1943, Besposhchadny, along with other destroyers, attempted to intercept German evacuation convoys off the Crimean coast. Attacked by German reconnaissance aircraft and Junkers Ju 87 Stukas, Besposhchadny was damaged and eventually sunk.
+On the night of 5/6 October 1943, Besposhchadny, along with other destroyers, attempted to intercept German evacuation convoys off the Crimean coast. Attacked by German reconnaissance aircraft and Junkers Ju 87 Stukas, Besposhchadny was damaged and eventually sunk.
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 The Besposhchadny was a destroyer of the Project 7, Gnevny-class, commissioned on the 2nd of October 1939. The Project 7 destroyers were intended to function as cheaper and more numerous traditional destroyers that were led by the larger and more expensive Project 1, Leningrad-class destroyer leaders. This plan was inhibited by the lack of experience that the Soviet Navy had with designing and building modern (for the time) destroyers. Cognizant of this limitation, the Soviet Navy consulted more experienced Italian shipbuilders in order to overcome their inexperience. The Soviets purchased plans for the Italian Folgore-class destroyers as a base for what would become the Gnevny-class.
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 The primary disadvantage of the B-13 guns on the Besposhchadny is their handling. The single gun mounts have a modest elevation limit with a maximum elevation of 45° and depression of 5° but are severely limited in rotation speed. In both horizontal and vertical targeting speeds, the mount rotates at less than 5°/s. This limits the ability of the Besposhchadny to react in combat, and nearly rules out the possibility of aiming at fast-moving aerial targets. Another disadvantage of the B-13 guns on the Besposhchadny is their relatively slow rate of fire. 10 rounds per minute does not allow for timely retargeting of components or vessels, and hampers the damage per minute of the Besposhchadny. While this lengthy reload may be somewhat mitigated by the power of the individual shells, it still is a tactical disadvantage that must be taken into account when utilizing the Besposhchadny.
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 === Secondary armament ===
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 The final shell choice is the APHEBC which may penetrate targets to deal internal damage. While the APHEBC has good penetration for its calibre, the light explosive filler limits the capability of the shell.
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 The Besposhchadny's mobility is unexceptional with respect to contemporary destroyers, but nevertheless is an upgrade over the mobility of the preceding Frunze. This is most evident in a maximum speed increase, although overall the Besposhchadny's mobility provides no distinct advantages nor disadvantages over similar ships.
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 === Modifications and economy ===

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 == Media ==
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 == See also ==