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 == Usage in battles ==
-The Ba-11 is one of the only Armoured cars in the Soviet Tech Tree and as an armoured car it suffers from a few issues, like poor mobility off-road and a very weak armour. However it still has some advantages going for him, like it's armament and it's crew placement.
+<!--''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''-->
-When used in ground realistic or arcade battles it is important having a low profile. Since this vehicle is not well armoured it wont be able to survive even strafing runs from aircrafts, specially those who are equipped with 12.7mm MGs. This also means that going in flanking manoeuvres against enemy SPAA is not recommended, because you lack HE projectiles or a roof mounted HMG like the one present in American tanks, is hard killing quickly open top vehicles, since it's very possible that the fuse in your APHE projectiles wont set off.
+When used in ground realistic or arcade battles, it is important to have a low profile. Since this vehicle is not well-armoured, it wont be able to survive even strafing runs from aircrafts, specially those who are equipped with 12.7mm MGs. This also means that going in flanking manoeuvres against enemy SPAA is not recommended, because you lack HE projectiles or a roof mounted HMG like the one present in American tanks, it is hard to destroy quickly open top vehicles since its very possible that the fuse in your APHE projectiles wont set off.
-Talking about that, the best thing going for the Ba-11 is it's armament, for it's BR, the Soviet 45mm D-20K cannon is more than enough to destroy a target. At low BRs most tanks are small and very cramped, and the APHE projectile of this gun, with almost 30G of TNT explosive, it's enough to one shot most opponents, specially small tanks like the M22 and the Panzer III. It's penetration values are also very good, being capable of dealing with the armour of pretty much every low BR tank at short ranges.
+Talking about that, the best thing going for the Ba-11 is its armament, the Soviet 45mm D-20K cannon is more than enough to destroy a target. At low BRs, most tanks are small and very cramped, and the APHE projectile of this gun, with almost 30G of TNT explosive, it's enough to one-shot most opponents, specially small tanks like the M22 and the Panzer III. Its penetration values are also very good, being capable of dealing with the armour of pretty much every low BR tank at short ranges.
 It is not recommended going flanking in the Ba-11, the wheeled design makes it so that it's very easy getting stuck in holes, rocks or any terrain irregularity, however it's also not recommended since off-road mobility is severely reduced when wheels are used instead of tracks, meanwhile the wheels allow for higher speeds as long as you are travelling on asphalt roads.
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 * Car forward mobility is quite good off and on-road, so long as it can pick up speed
 * Front profile rather small due to its long body
-* Very good firepower for it's BR
+* Very good firepower, APHE round can one shot most tanks
 '''Cons:'''

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 == Usage in battles ==
-''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
+The Ba-11 is one of the only Armoured cars in the Soviet Tech Tree and as an armoured car it suffers from a few issues, like poor mobility off-road and a very weak armour. However it still has some advantages going for him, like it's armament and it's crew placement.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 * Car forward mobility is quite good off and on-road, so long as it can pick up speed
 * Front profile rather small due to its long body
 '''Cons:'''
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ussr_ba_11 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a Soviet armoured vehicle designed with the intent of serving as a replacement for its predecessor, the BA-10. It was the first and only Soviet heavy armoured car produced, and it saw very limited service due to production ceasing after the Nazi Germany invasion in 1941. Compared to the BA-10, the {{Specs|name}} featured a sophisticated armour design, providing better protection for its crew, and a more powerful engine, which was said to be more reliable. Despite this, it was considered a disappointment as a result of numerous design flaws and technical issues, and its performance in battle was subpar. Further attempts at improvement were made with the replacement of the petrol engine with a diesel ZIS-D-7, but these efforts were ultimately unsuccessful due to the vehicle's poor reputation. In the end, all 17 vehicles built were lost in combat, and the project was abandoned.
-The {{Specs|name}} was introduced during [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]] as a reward for [[Season 2: Attack from the Sea]]. It is an excellent flanker and plays essentially the same as the BT-5. Surprisingly, its crew layout allows it to tank some shots, as long as it's not hit in the flat parts of the armour. However, it is important to keep a low profile, as the BA-11 can't survive even a single strafing run by an aircraft due to its lightly armoured roof armour.
+The {{Specs|name}} was introduced during [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]] as a reward for [[Season 2: Attack from the Sea]]. It is an excellent flanker and plays essentially the same as the BT-5. Surprisingly, its crew layout allows it to tank some shots, as long as it's not hit in the flat parts of the armour. However, it is important to keep a low profile, as the BA-11 can't survive even a single strafing run by an aircraft due to its thin roof armour.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a Soviet armoured vehicle designed with the intent of serving as a replacement for its predecessor, the BA-10. It was the first and only Soviet heavy armoured car produced, and it saw very limited service due to production ceasing after the Nazi Germany invasion in 1941. Compared to the BA-10, the {{Specs|name}} featured a sophisticated armour design, providing better protection for its crew, and a more powerful engine, which was said to be more reliable. Despite this, It was considered a disappointment as a result of numerous design flaws and technical issues, and its performance in battle was subpar. Further attempts at improvement were made with the replacement of the petrol engine with a diesel ZIS-D-7, but these efforts were ultimately unsuccessful due to the vehicle's poor reputation. In the end, all 17 vehicles built were lost in combat, and the project was abandoned.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a Soviet armoured vehicle designed with the intent of serving as a replacement for its predecessor, the BA-10. It was the first and only Soviet heavy armoured car produced, and it saw very limited service due to production ceasing after the Nazi Germany invasion in 1941. Compared to the BA-10, the {{Specs|name}} featured a sophisticated armour design, providing better protection for its crew, and a more powerful engine, which was said to be more reliable. Despite this, it was considered a disappointment as a result of numerous design flaws and technical issues, and its performance in battle was subpar. Further attempts at improvement were made with the replacement of the petrol engine with a diesel ZIS-D-7, but these efforts were ultimately unsuccessful due to the vehicle's poor reputation. In the end, all 17 vehicles built were lost in combat, and the project was abandoned.
 The {{Specs|name}} was introduced during [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]] as a reward for [[Season 2: Attack from the Sea]]. It is an excellent flanker and plays essentially the same as the BT-5. Surprisingly, its crew layout allows it to tank some shots, as long as it's not hit in the flat parts of the armour. However, it is important to keep a low profile, as the BA-11 can't survive even a single strafing run by an aircraft due to its lightly armoured roof armour.

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a gift premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]] as a reward for [[Season 2: Attack from the Sea]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a Soviet armoured vehicle designed with the intent of serving as a replacement for its predecessor, the BA-10. It was the first and only Soviet heavy armoured car produced, and it saw very limited service due to production ceasing after the Nazi Germany invasion in 1941. Compared to the BA-10, the {{Specs|name}} featured a sophisticated armour design, providing better protection for its crew, and a more powerful engine, which was said to be more reliable. Despite this, It was considered a disappointment as a result of numerous design flaws and technical issues, and its performance in battle was subpar. Further attempts at improvement were made with the replacement of the petrol engine with a diesel ZIS-D-7, but these efforts were ultimately unsuccessful due to the vehicle's poor reputation. In the end, all 17 vehicles built were lost in combat, and the project was abandoned.
 == General info ==

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 ==== Ammunition ====
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+{{:20-K (45 mm)/Ammunition|BR-240, BR-240SP}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 | BR-240 || APHEBC || 70 || 67 || 58 || 47 || 39 || 32
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-| BR-240SP || AP || 73 || 70 || 60 || 50 || 41 || 34
+| BR-240SP || APBC || 73 || 70 || 60 || 50 || 41 || 34
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 | BR-240 || APHEBC || 760 || 1.43 || 1.2 || 9 || 29.26 || 48° || 63° || 71°
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-| BR-240SP || AP || 757 || 1.43 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 47° || 60° || 65°
+| BR-240SP || APBC || 757 || 1.43 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 47° || 60° || 65°
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 == History ==
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-Armoured cars were one of the most popular world trends in the development of armoured vehicles in the pre-war period. The Soviet heavy armoured vehicle BA-11 was one of the typical examples of this type of vehicle. It was created on the basis of a shortened chassis from the military ZIS-6 - a three-axle off-road truck designed on a scheme of 6x4 (rear wheel drive). The new chassis designed by engineers of the Moscow Automobile Plant was supposed to provide the armoured car greater payload and a better cross-country ability which allows improvements in the armour and a better  off-road performance in the vehicle.
+Armoured cars were one of the most popular world trends in the development of armoured vehicles in the pre-war period. The Soviet heavy armoured vehicle BA-11 was one of the typical examples of this type of vehicle. It was created on the basis of a shortened chassis from the military ZIS-6 - a three-axle off-road truck designed on a scheme of 6x4 (rear wheel drive). The new chassis designed by engineers of the Moscow Automobile Plant was supposed to provide the armoured car greater payload and a better cross-country ability which allows improvements in the armour and a better off-road performance in the vehicle.
 Compared to the armoured vehicles of the B-6 and B-10 series which had been designed on the basis of the GAZ-AAA truck, the armour of the BA-11 has been increased by 1.5-2 times and in some places, the BA-11 was slightly better armoured than the T-26 and BT-7 tanks. With the increased weight up to 8 tons, the vehicle maintained good driving characteristics: a speed of up to 64 km/h on the highway and 26 km/h over terrain. As well as in the BA-10 the designers also provided overall tracks which were able to help the armoured car to overcome particularly difficult areas. The gun and the turret of the vehicle also receives a 45 mm 20-K cannon from the BA-10 in the turret.

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 ! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
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-| BR-240 || APHEBC || 70 || 68 || 59 || 50 || 42 || 35
+| BR-240 || APHEBC || 70 || 67 || 58 || 47 || 39 || 32
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-| BR-240SP || AP || 73 || 71 || 62 || 52 || 44 || 37
+| BR-240SP || AP || 73 || 70 || 60 || 50 || 41 || 34
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 ! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
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-| BR-240 || APHEBC || 760 || 1.43 || 1.2 || 9.0 || 29.26 || 48° || 63° || 71°
+| BR-240 || APHEBC || 760 || 1.43 || 1.2 || 9 || 29.26 || 48° || 63° || 71°
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 | BR-240SP || AP || 757 || 1.43 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 47° || 60° || 65°

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-Notes:
+'''Notes''':
 * Shells in racks 1 and 2 (turret) are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
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-The small caliber of the DT machine gun makes it largely ineffective against all armoured vehicles but the ones with an open compartment. It still can be used to ping targets as a rangefinding help. The clip capacity of the machine gun is quite poor, as it relies on a magazine of 63 bullets instead of a belt like similar machine guns from other nations.
+The small calibre of the DT machine gun makes it largely ineffective against all armoured vehicles but the ones with an open compartment. It still can be used to ping targets as a rangefinding help. The clip capacity of the machine gun is quite poor, as it relies on a magazine of 63 bullets instead of a belt like similar machine guns from other nations.
 == Usage in battles ==
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 * Roof armour above the crew at its thickest is 8 mm, which allows most aircraft to penetrate with a strafing run
 * Interior layout allows any penetrating shot to deal critical damage to something
-* Vehicle length means it can present a large target if driving perpendicular to an enemy's gun
+* Vehicle length means it can present a large target if driving perpendicular to an enemy gun
 * Reverse speed is disappointing, restricting ability to withdraw into cover easily

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-Armour on the {{PAGENAME}} is unfortunately inadequate against most tank armaments that it can encounter. It's only thick enough to resist rifle-calibre machine guns from coaxials, whereas heavy machine gun rounds have more than enough power to shred the car's body apart. In terms of surviving a front-on encounter with a tank shell, the only hope is that the engine and fuel tank modules will stop the shell from reaching the crew compartment. However, this hope is mired by the fact that the {{PAGENAME}} has the hull-break mechanic enabled, so such a shot can ruin the {{PAGENAME}}. Even if the shot doesn't enact the hull-break mechanic, it will immobilize the {{PAGENAME}} and leave it ready for a more accurate follow-up shot to finish the deed.
+Armour on the BA-11 is unfortunately inadequate against most tank armaments that it can encounter. It's only thick enough to resist rifle-calibre machine gun fire, whereas heavy machine gun rounds have more than enough power to shred the car's body apart. In terms of surviving a frontal encounter with a tank shell, the only hope is that the engine and fuel tank modules will stop the shell from reaching the crew compartment. However, the BA-11 is vulnerable to overpressure so an HE shell will at best immobilize the BA-11 if not outright destroy it.
-The only survivability enhancement the {{PAGENAME}} can go through is simply to not get hit. Nearly every compartment of the {{PAGENAME}} has critical components that would cripple the vehicle if not outright destroy it. The front compartment with engine and transmission module can hull-break or immobilise the vehicle. The center driving compartment containing the driver and another crew member, with the transmission right underneath to, again, cripple the vehicle's mobility or activate hull-break. The fighting compartment in the rear with the turret is fully stowed with ammunition with the gun crew, and so a shot there can cause an ammunition detonation that would make short work of the {{PAGENAME}}'s life.
+If shot, the front compartment with engine and transmission module can immobilise the vehicle. The center driving compartment containing the driver and another crew member, with the transmission right underneath to, again, cripple the vehicle's mobility. The fighting compartment in the rear with the turret is fully stowed with ammunition with the gun crew, and so a shot there can cause an ammunition detonation that would make short work of the BA-11's life.
 Finally, the roof armour on the {{PAGENAME}} is not sufficient against most type of strafing attacks either, so enemy aircraft going for a gun run will be dangerous to a {{PAGENAME}} user.
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ussr_ba_11 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
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