Ariete AMV - Revision history

U44629479: Undo revision 193816 by U150746551 (talk)

2024-10-22T01:03:57Z

Undo revision 193816 by U150746551 (talk)

U150746551: Fixing wrong reload time for ariete

2024-10-21T19:22:06Z

Fixing wrong reload time for ariete

U150746551: Was wrong reload time for Ariete AMV

2024-10-20T18:13:24Z

Was wrong reload time for Ariete AMV

U44629479: Undo revision 179687 by U122232598 (talk)

2023-12-30T17:05:11Z

Undo revision 179687 by U122232598 (talk)

U122232598: /* Usage in battles */

2023-12-30T15:35:49Z

‎Usage in battles

U139575037: Added A bit more info about the manufacturers and the machine guns

2023-12-23T16:19:06Z

Added A bit more info about the manufacturers and the machine guns

U44629479: /* Media */ Added skins

2023-04-17T17:23:19Z

‎Media: Added skins

U44629479: Edits

2023-04-17T17:10:53Z

Edits

U38088265: /* Description */

2023-04-11T17:36:40Z

‎Description

U31139476: /* Description */

2023-03-26T21:35:55Z

‎Description

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 == Armaments ==
 {{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
-<div style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 20px;">Main armament</div>
+=== Main armament ===
-<div style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 16px; position: relative; top: 4px; left: 22px; z-index: 1; background-color: white; display: inline-block; padding-left: 1px; padding-right: 1px;">120 mm OTO Breda 120/44 cannon</div>
+{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}
 <!-- ''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.'' -->
-<div style="margin-top: -40px;">
+{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 |-
 ! colspan="5" | [[OTO Breda 120/44 (120 mm)|120 mm OTO Breda 120/44]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
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 |}
 {{Clear}}
 === Machine guns ===

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 == Armaments ==
 {{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
-=== Main armament ===
+<div style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 20px;">Main armament</div>
-{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}
+<div style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 16px; position: relative; top: 4px; left: 22px; z-index: 1; background-color: white; display: inline-block; padding-left: 1px; padding-right: 1px;">120 mm OTO Breda 120/44 cannon</div>
 <!-- ''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.'' -->
-{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+<div style="margin-top: -40px;">
 |-
 ! colspan="5" | [[OTO Breda 120/44 (120 mm)|120 mm OTO Breda 120/44]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
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 |}
 {{Clear}}
 === Machine guns ===

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 ! ''Arcade''
-| rowspan="2" | 42 || rowspan="2" | -9°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 38.1 || 52.7 || 64.0 || 70.8 || 75.3 || rowspan="2" | 7.80 || rowspan="2" | 6.90 || rowspan="2" | 6.36 || rowspan="2" | 6.00
+| rowspan="2" | 42 || rowspan="2" | -9°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 38.1 || 52.7 || 64.0 || 70.8 || 75.3 || rowspan="2" | 6.5 || rowspan="2" | 5.75 || rowspan="2" | 5.3 || rowspan="2" | 5.00
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 ! ''Realistic''

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 * Unprotected ammo stowage
 * Placement of crew members and first stage ammo rack make hits to the hull fatal
-* The DM53 APFSDS round is a tier 4 modification, though CL3143 is still very capable
+* The DM53 APFSDS round is a tier 4 modification
 * Russian tanks, protected by explosive reactive armour, can at times directly withstand DM53
 * Lacks roof-mounted machine gun from the previous C1 Arietes

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 * Unprotected ammo stowage
 * Placement of crew members and first stage ammo rack make hits to the hull fatal
-* The DM53 APFSDS round is a tier 4 modification
+* The DM53 APFSDS round is a tier 4 modification, though CL3143 is still very capable
 * Russian tanks, protected by explosive reactive armour, can at times directly withstand DM53
 * Lacks roof-mounted machine gun from the previous C1 Arietes

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The C1 Ariete was developed by OTO Melara during the late Cold War to allow the Italian army to equip itself with a modern tank which could easily deal with Yugoslav and Warsaw Pact tanks. The AMV PT1 is a further development of the C1 Ariete, it being the first prototype of the AMV program which aims to upgrade several features to improve the tank and extend its life. The PT1 specifically features mobility improvements which allows the tank to be on par in terms of mobility with the rest of the top-tier MBTs.
+The C1 Ariete was developed by Consorzio Iveco OTO Melara (CIO) during the late Cold War to allow the Italian army to equip itself with a modern tank which could easily deal with Yugoslav and Warsaw Pact tanks. The AMV PT1 is a further development of the C1 Ariete, it being the first prototype of the AMV program which aims to upgrade several features to improve the tank and extend its life. The PT1 specifically features mobility improvements which allows the tank to be on par in terms of mobility with the rest of the top-tier MBTs.
-Introduced in [[Update "Sky Guardians"]], the C1 Ariete AMV is one of the staple tanks that you can add to your lineup. As a tier 1 mod you get access to the CL3143 APFSDS round which will greatly help you when grinding the vehicle. It's a great MBT when used by players who can work around its weaknesses, keep in mind that unlike the previous Ariete you don't have access to the WAR add-on armour kit.
+Introduced in [[Update "Sky Guardians"]], the C1 Ariete AMV is one of the staple tanks of the Italian tech tree, that you can add to your lineup. As a tier 1 mod you get access to the CL3143 APFSDS round which will greatly help you when grinding the vehicle. It's a great MBT when used by players who can work around its weaknesses, keep in mind that unlike the previous Ariete you don't have access to the WAR add-on armour kit.
 '''Fun fact''': this MBT is the newest vehicle in the game, first shown in February 2022 during testing for the C1 Ariete upgrade
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 The tank would feature a set of improvements from previous designs, for example the first C1 Ariete production models had access to the TURMS 3rd generation LTFCS made by Officine Galileo, which gave the capability to the Ariete to fire on the move, both during the day and at night. However later down the line, the last 50 Arietes would receive an upgrade of their sights, which resulted in many improvements, such as allowing the C1 Ariete commanders to have access to thermal imaging. In terms of armaments, the C1 Ariete (P) and C1 Ariete Production had access to a 120 mm smoothbore gun, made by OTO Melara, with similarities to the German made L44. The cannon would be suited to fire the majority of NATO standard munitions. Another improvement included better protection compared to the previous vehicles, it would be one of the more vital aspects of the Ariete. The tank would be delivered up until the early 2000s when the Ariete would begin to be the only official tank in service, while the Leopards and M60s would be fully phased out and put in storage.
-Since then however, the Ariete has had quite the bumpy ride when it came to upgrading the machine; the Italian army was not against upgrading it, but there was a common issue that would plague the development: costs. The first proposed upgrade for the C1 Ariete would be what is known as the "C2 Ariete". After the tank had finished being designed, many nations at the time already had better vehicles in service, for example Germany would already have the Leopard 2A5. The C2 Ariete would have featured a lot of improvements, which included new updated armour, an autoloader, new engine, and also new updated FCS. However this never ended up happening and as such the C2 Ariete would remain only a proposal on paper. Another potential upgrade for the C1 Ariete, the C1 Ariete Hitfact Mk2, was likely not even considered by the Italian army but it would still feature a set of advancements that technically speaking would make it still a better machine than the production vehicles, such as the new cannon and optics.
+Since then however, the Ariete has had quite the bumpy ride when it came to upgrading the machine; the Italian army was not against upgrading it, but there was a common issue that would plague the development: costs. The first proposed upgrade for the C1 Ariete would be what is known as the "C2 Ariete". After the tank had finished being designed, many nations at the time already had better vehicles in service, for example Germany would already have the Leopard 2A5. The C2 Ariete would have featured a lot of improvements, which included new updated armour, an autoloader, new engine, and also new updated FCS. However this never ended up happening and as such the C2 Ariete would remain only a proposal on paper. Another potential upgrade for the C1 Ariete, the C1 Ariete Hitfact Mk2, was likely not even considered by the Italian army but it would still feature a set of advancements that technically speaking would make it still a better machine than the production vehicles, such as the new cannon and optics. Also all Ariete's are equiped with a 7.62mm Beretta Mg 42/59 Machine gun.
 '''AMV upgrade'''
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=it_ariete_amv_pt1 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 ;[[Ariete (Family)|Related development]]
 * [[Ariete]]
 * [[Ariete PSO]]

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 == Media ==
 <!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
 == See also ==

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 === Machine guns ===
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 * ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
 * [[Ariete]]
 * [[Ariete PSO]]

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 == Description ==
-<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->The C1 Ariete AMV PT1 is the final main battle tank that is available to research in the Italian ground forces tech tree. The C1 Ariete was developed by OTO Melara during the late Cold War to allow the Italian army to equip itself with a modern tank which could easily deal with Yugoslav and Warsaw Pact tanks. The AMV PT1 is a further development of the C1 Ariete, it being the first prototype of the AMV program which aims to upgrade several features to improve the tank and extend its life. The PT1 specifically features mobility improvements which allows the tank to be on par in terms of mobility with the rest of the top-tier MBTs. The C1 Ariete AMV was introduced in the [[Update "Sky Guardians"|"Sky Guardians" update]] is one of the staple tanks that you can add to your lineup, as a tier 1 mod you get access to the CL3143 APFSDS round which will greatly help you when grinding the vehicle. It's a great MBT when used by players who can work around its weaknesses, keep in mind that unlike the previous Ariete you don't have access to the WAR add-on armour kit.
+<!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
 '''Fun fact''': this MBT is the newest vehicle in the game, first shown in February 2022 during testing for the C1 Ariete upgrade
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 ! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 |-
-| Hull || Spaced Armour ''Upper glacis'' <br> 50 mm (50°) ''Lower glacis'' <br> 35 mm (60°) ''Sponson front''|| 10-20 mm ''Top'' <br> 35 mm ''Bottom'' || 20 mm || 35 mm ''Crew compartment'' <br> 20 mm ''Engine compartment'' <br> 5 mm ''Exhaust radiators''
+| Hull || Spaced Armour ''Upper glacis'' <br> 50 mm (50°) ''Lower glacis'' <br> 35 mm (60°) ''Sponson front''|| 10-20 mm ''Top'' <br> 35 mm ''Bottom'' || 20 mm || 35 mm ''Crew compartment'' <br> 20 mm ''Engine compartment'' <br> 5 mm ''Exhaust radiators''
 |-
-| Turret || Composite armour ''Turret front'' <br> Spaced armour + 90 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || Spaced armour || 20 mm + 10 mm || 40 mm ''Front portion'' <br> 20 mm ''Rear portion''
+| Turret || Composite armour ''Turret front'' <br> Spaced armour + 90 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || Spaced armour || 20 mm + 10 mm || 40 mm ''Front portion'' <br> 20 mm ''Rear portion''
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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
 The C1 Ariete AMV can be played in different roles. It can be played as a sniper due to its decent APFSDS rounds, good thermal and  laser rangefinder, however you must not over expose yourself since the armour of the tank cannot withstand any hit from any top tier rounds, even some chemical projectile can penetrate the armour of the Ariete, even in the turret. Due to its improved mobility and very powerful round the Ariete fits perfectly in the "glass gun" role, flanking the enemy and hitting them from the side. However the Ariete cannot be used as a brawler since, as previously mentioned, its armour isn't great, and its rounds aren't protected by any kind of blowout panels which means that any penetrating rounds will result if a one shot.
 To sum up, the Ariete is very good at long range and as a glass gun but you have to keep in mind that you can not rely on your armour at all.