Ammo racks - Revision history

U22067555: /* Modules */ mixed up, magazine detonation is more catastrophic than shell room detonation

2023-08-30T21:59:21Z

‎Modules: mixed up, magazine detonation is more catastrophic than shell room detonation

U44629479: Edits

2023-05-17T17:31:43Z

Edits

U4656018: /* Visual discrepancy */ revision to the Gaijin community platform for bug reports

2023-05-17T17:26:52Z

‎Visual discrepancy: revision to the Gaijin community platform for bug reports

U44629479: /* Media */ Added Shooting Range episode

2023-05-13T21:05:06Z

‎Media: Added Shooting Range episode

U44629479: Edits

2023-05-13T21:02:33Z

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U38088265 at 22:36, 12 February 2023

2023-02-12T22:36:00Z

U12017485: Added /* Modules / which describes individual modules that can be found in the game's X-Ray view. Additionally tried to make / Rack types */ a little bit less vehicle-centric, but realistically: it needs a complete rewrite from ground up.

2023-02-12T15:37:24Z

Added ‎Modules: which describes individual modules that can be found in the game's X-Ray view. Additionally tried to make ‎Rack types: a little bit less vehicle-centric, but realistically: it needs a complete rewrite from ground up.

U38088265 at 16:47, 2 May 2022

2022-05-02T16:47:47Z

U44629479: Edits

2022-03-18T12:53:25Z

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U38088265 at 15:04, 19 August 2021

2021-08-19T15:04:14Z

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 * Auxiliary ammunition storage - Used for secondary ammunition on a number of naval warships
 * Ammunition storage - Main ammo storage, primarily seen on the coastal vessels
-* Shell room - A location where the projectiles are stored. These rooms are often the source of large and catastrophic explosions on ships and are therefore considered critical targets in the event of an attack by an enemy warship. In the context of in-game damage modeling, ships with magazines located above the shell room (e.g. [[Krasny Krym]]) are considered to be more survivable than those with shell rooms above the magazine (e.g. [[RN Raimondo Montecuccoli]]).
+* Magazine - Room where the propellants are stored. These rooms are often the source of large and catastrophic explosions on ships and are therefore considered critical targets in the event of an attack by an enemy warship. It's worth noting that some of the guns do not use a separate Magazine, while still having a Shell room (e.g. [[Pattern 1911 (102 mm)|102 mm Pattern 1911]], which historically did use a two-piece ammunition) - in such a cases it's assumed that the shell room contains both projectiles and propellants.
-* Magazine - Room where the propellants are stored. On a naval vessels these are less explosive than the shell rooms.  It's worth noting that some of the guns do not use a separate Magazine, while still having a Shell room (e.g. [[Pattern 1911 (102 mm)|102 mm Pattern 1911]], which historically did use a two-piece ammunition) - in such a cases it's assumed that the shell room contains both projectiles and propellants.
+* Shell room - A location where the projectiles are stored. On a naval vessels these are less explosive than the Magazine. In the context of in-game damage modeling, ships with shell rooms above the magazine (e.g. [[RN Raimondo Montecuccoli]]) are considered to be more survivable than those with magazines located above the shell room (e.g. [[Krasny Krym]]).
 * Torpedo - Several ships store multiple torpedoes, not only in their launchers, but also for reloading purposes. This is particularly notable in Japanese vessels or pre-World War II battleships that have entire rooms or boxes filled with torpedoes. While these have a low probability of exploding, if they do, the resulting damage can be catastrophic.
 * Ammo elevators - Much like fires can spread from one compartment to another they can also use the ammo elevators to directly reach the shell room, resulting in a catastrophic explosion ending with an "Ammunition Load Burnt Down" message. Furthermore, some ammunition elevators contain shells (for example on [[USS Brooklyn]]), which can potentially lead to a localised explosion, particularly if fire reaches the location.

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 ==Visual discrepancy==
-Some vehicles may carry a number of shells in its racks than differs from the visibly modelled ammunition in the X-Ray view. This is known as "Visual discrepancy", and can occur in both a vehicle as a whole (e.g. a vehicle visually contains 80 shells but in fact only carries 60 when fully equipped) or in individual racks (e.g. a rack is visually modelled as containing 5 shells but 8 must be fired for it to deplete). These cases should be reported via the [https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder dedicated Gaijin community platform]by selecting the appropriate issues ''(Note: previously reported on forum's bug report channels; now archived)''. Note that racks being modeled as a whole instead of individually is NOT visual discrepancy, and should not be reported or marked as such.
+Some vehicles may carry a number of shells in its racks than differs from the visibly modelled ammunition in the X-Ray view. This is known as "Visual discrepancy", and can occur in both a vehicle as a whole (e.g. a vehicle visually contains 80 shells but in fact only carries 60 when fully equipped) or in individual racks (e.g. a rack is visually modelled as containing 5 shells but 8 must be fired for it to deplete). These cases should be reported via the [https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder dedicated Gaijin community platform]by selecting the appropriate issues. Note that racks being modeled as a whole instead of individually is NOT visual discrepancy, and should not be reported or marked as such.
 =Optimized ammo rack loadout=

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 ===Modules===
 The resistance of each module visible in the X-Ray view to damage, fire as well as its explosion effect is set individually for each vehicle and vessel. This can result in significant variations in the survivability when the ammo rack modules are critically damaged.
 * Ammo - Name of the ammunition storage typically used to refer to the storage of first-stage ammunition (ready-use), rockets, missiles, belts, or individual rounds and propellants.
 ** It is important to note that some vehicles in the ground forces have two-piece ammunition, which are both marked as an "Ammo" module instead of being displayed separately like in the naval forces. For example, in the X-Ray view of the [[Jagdtiger]], cylindrical ammo represents propellant charges while conical ammo represents projectiles. In these cases, the propellant still causes more damage in the event of an explosion compared to the projectiles.
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 ==Visual discrepancy==
-Some vehicles may carry a number of shells in its racks than differs from the visibly modelled ammunition in the X-Ray view. This is known as "Visual discrepancy", and can occur in both a vehicle as a whole (e.g. a vehicle visually contains 80 shells but in fact only carries 60 when fully equipped) or in individual racks (e.g. a rack is visually modelled as containing 5 shells but 8 must be fired for it to deplete). These cases should be reported via the appropriate bug-reporting channels on the [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/forum/655-bug-reports/ Official War Thunder Forums]. Note that racks being modeled as a whole instead of individually is NOT visual discrepancy, and should not be reported or marked as such.
+Some vehicles may carry a number of shells in its racks than differs from the visibly modelled ammunition in the X-Ray view. This is known as "Visual discrepancy", and can occur in both a vehicle as a whole (e.g. a vehicle visually contains 80 shells but in fact only carries 60 when fully equipped) or in individual racks (e.g. a rack is visually modelled as containing 5 shells but 8 must be fired for it to deplete). These cases should be reported via the [https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder dedicated Gaijin community platform]by selecting the appropriate issues ''(Note: previously reported on forum's bug report channels; now archived)''. Note that racks being modeled as a whole instead of individually is NOT visual discrepancy, and should not be reported or marked as such.
 =Optimized ammo rack loadout=
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 ;Images
 * [[:Category:Ammo racks]]

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 <!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
 * [[:Category:Ammo racks]]
 = See also =

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 {{About
-| about = Ammo Racks mechanic
+| about = {{PAGENAME}} mechanic
 | usage = information on how to fill in an ammo racks table on the Wiki
 | link = How to add Ammo Rack information to vehicle pages{{!}}here

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 ==Rack types==
 '''Single piece ammunition'''
-Most tanks, machine guns, or low-calibre secondary and anti-air guns use single piece ammunition where projectiles and propellants are in one piece.
+Most smaller calibre guns use single piece ammunition where projectiles and propellants are in one piece.
 '''Two piece ammunition'''
-Some high calibre cannons have two-piece ammunition where projectiles and propellants are stored and loaded separately. Each piece has their own individual module. These racks can be depleted synchronously (for example in the [[Jagdtiger]]) or deplete independently of one another (for example in the [[M103]]).
+Some high calibre cannons have two-piece ammunition where projectiles and propellants are stored and loaded separately. Each part has their own individual module. These modules can be depleted synchronously (for example in the [[Jagdtiger]]) or deplete independently of one another (for example in the [[M103]]).
 '''Magazines and ammo boxes'''
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 * Ammunition storage - Main ammo storage, primarily seen on the coastal vessels
 * Shell room - A location where the projectiles are stored. These rooms are often the source of large and catastrophic explosions on ships and are therefore considered critical targets in the event of an attack by an enemy warship. In the context of in-game damage modeling, ships with magazines located above the shell room (e.g. [[Krasny Krym]]) are considered to be more survivable than those with shell rooms above the magazine (e.g. [[RN Raimondo Montecuccoli]]).
-* Magazine - Room where the propellants are stored. On a naval vessels these are less explosive than the shell rooms.  It's worth noting that some of the guns do not use a separate Magazine, while still having a Shell room (e.g. [[Pattern 1911 (102 mm)|102 mm Pattern 1911]], which historically did use a two-piece ammunition) - in such a cases it's assumed that the shell room contains both: projectiles and propellants.
+* Magazine - Room where the propellants are stored. On a naval vessels these are less explosive than the shell rooms.  It's worth noting that some of the guns do not use a separate Magazine, while still having a Shell room (e.g. [[Pattern 1911 (102 mm)|102 mm Pattern 1911]], which historically did use a two-piece ammunition) - in such a cases it's assumed that the shell room contains both projectiles and propellants.
 * Torpedo - Several ships store multiple torpedoes, not only in their launchers, but also for reloading purposes. This is particularly notable in Japanese vessels or pre-World War II battleships that have entire rooms or boxes filled with torpedoes. While these have a low probability of exploding, if they do, the resulting damage can be catastrophic.
 * Ammo elevators - Much like fires can spread from one compartment to another they can also use the ammo elevators to directly reach the shell room, resulting in a catastrophic explosion ending with an "Ammunition Load Burnt Down" message. Furthermore, some ammunition elevators contain shells (for example on [[USS Brooklyn]]), which can potentially lead to a localised explosion, particularly if fire reaches the location.

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 ==Rack types==
 '''Single piece ammunition'''
-Most tanks use single piece ammunition where projectiles and propellants are in one piece.
+Most tanks, machine guns, or low-calibre secondary and anti-air guns use single piece ammunition where projectiles and propellants are in one piece.
 '''Two piece ammunition'''
-Some high calibre cannons have two-piece ammunition where projectiles and propellants are stored and loaded separately. Each piece has their own individual racks. These racks can be depleted synchronously (for example in the [[Jagdtiger]]) or deplete independently of one another (for example in the [[M103]]).
+Some high calibre cannons have two-piece ammunition where projectiles and propellants are stored and loaded separately. Each piece has their own individual module. These racks can be depleted synchronously (for example in the [[Jagdtiger]]) or deplete independently of one another (for example in the [[M103]]).
 '''Magazines and ammo boxes'''
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 '''Torpedoes'''
 While being a relatively large target onboard most of the vessels, torpedoes have comparatively low chance of explosion upon destruction.
 ==Rack depletion==
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 * [[wt:en/news/5375-development-first-order-ammo-racks-and-automatic-loaders-en|[Devblog] First-order ammo racks and automatic loaders]]
 * Related forum thread: http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/246940-ammo-racks/
 * [[wt:en/news/7285-it-s-fixed-18-en|[News] It's fixed! №18]]
 [[Category:Ammunition]]

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 =General=
-Each ground and naval vehicle has its ammunition stored in a series of racks. Each vehicle has its individual rack configuration and each rack carries a specific number of shells. These racks can be seen in-game with X-Ray viewing mode (be sure to bind a key to 'Common > Basic > X-ray (show vehicle modules)').
+Each ground and naval vehicle has its ammunition stored in a series of racks. Each vehicle has its individual rack configuration and each rack carries a specific number of shells. These racks can be seen in-game with X-Ray viewing mode (be sure to bind a key in Controls > Common > Basic > X-ray (show vehicle modules)).
 ==Rack types==
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 '''Two piece ammunition'''
-Some high calibre cannons have two piece ammunition where projectiles and propellants are stored and loaded separately. Each piece has their own individual racks. These racks can be depleted synchronously (for example in the [[Jagdtiger]]) or deplete independently of one another (for example in the [[M103]]).
+Some high calibre cannons have two-piece ammunition where projectiles and propellants are stored and loaded separately. Each piece has their own individual racks. These racks can be depleted synchronously (for example in the [[Jagdtiger]]) or deplete independently of one another (for example in the [[M103]]).
 '''Magazines and ammo boxes'''
-Vehicles with automatic cannon(s) often have their ammunition stored in magazines, clips, belts and/or ammo boxes. In the loadout screen, ammunition amount is selected in magazines. For example, the [[Ostwind]] can load up to 125 magazines instead of 1000 shells.
+Vehicles with automatic cannon(s) often have their ammunition stored in magazines, clips, belts and/or ammo boxes. In the loadout screen, ammunition amount is selected in magazines. For example, the [[Ostwind]] can distribute ammunition between 125 magazines of 8 rounds instead of 1,000 shells.
 '''Multi turret and multi cannon'''
-Multi-turreted and multi-cannon vehicles (for example [[T-35]] or [[M6A1]] or most naval vessels) have individual racks for each ammo type. Tanks like the [[Maus]] could also have three kinds of racks, 12.8 cm projectiles, 12.8 cm propellants and 7.5 cm shells.
+Multi-turreted and multi-cannon vehicles (for example the [[T-35]] or the [[M6A1]], or most naval vessels) have individual racks for each ammo type. Tanks like the [[Maus]] can also have three kinds of racks, 12.8 cm projectiles, 12.8 cm propellants and 7.5 cm shells.
 '''Twin and Quad cannons'''
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 ==Rack depletion==
-Racks vanish once all shells in that rack are depleted. Some vehicles have their shells modeled individually, meaning that the shells disappear from the rack as they are fired, while others may have racks modeled as a whole (for example, a rack containing 6 shells only vanishes once all of its six shells are depleted). However, see "Visual Discrepancy" below. The order in which the racks are filled and depleted does not change no matter how many shells are available (the exception being first-stage ammo racks, which will always deplete first if available, and will refill from the other ammo racks after an extended break in firing). A depleted rack or vanished shell cannot cause an ammo rack detonation, so care should be taken in choosing the number of shells to equip into battle to maximise the survivability of the vehicle (see [[#Optimized ammo rack loadout]]).
+Some vehicles have their shells modeled individually, meaning that the shells disappear from the rack as they are fired. Others have their shells modeled as sets of 2 shells or more, meaning that the shells disappear from the rack as soon as all shells in the set are expended. Some other vehicles have racks modeled as a whole (for example, a rack containing 6 shells only vanishes once all of its six shells are depleted). The order in which the racks are filled and depleted does not change no matter how many shells are available (the exception being first-stage ammo racks, which will always deplete first if available, and will refill from the other ammo racks after an extended break in firing). A depleted rack or a vanished shell cannot cause an ammo rack detonation, so care should be taken in choosing the number of shells to equip into battle to maximise the survivability of the vehicle (see [[#Optimized ammo rack loadout]]).
 ===Depletion tracking of first-stage ammo racks===
 [[File:First order ammo rack status.jpg|right|thumb|x250px|alt=Alt text|The damage interface lists how many first-stage shells are still at hand (28 in this case).]]
-First-stage ammo racks comprise the shells that the loader, automatic loader or the drum of your tank dispenses into the cannon noticeably faster than the remaining shells. When not firing, the first-stage rack will be replenished from less accessible ammunition stowages, typically located in the hull and/or on the floor of the battle compartment. However, this lengthy operation impacts your combat performance and is better anticipated than endured. The remaining shells in the first-stage ammo rack are displayed on the right side of the damage panel. This gives players whose vehicles have autoloaders the possibility to track how many first-stage shells remain at their disposal and therefore plan ahead for the restocking phase.
+First-stage ammo racks comprise the shells that the loader, automatic loader or the drum of your tank dispenses into the cannon noticeably faster than the remaining shells. When not firing, the first-stage rack will be replenished from less accessible ammunition stowages, typically located in the hull and/or on the floor of the fighting compartment. However, this lengthy operation impacts your combat performance and is better anticipated than endured. The remaining shells in the first-stage ammo rack are displayed on the right side of the damage panel in the bottom left corner. This gives players whose vehicles have autoloaders the possibility to track how many first-stage shells remain at their disposal and therefore plan ahead for the restocking phase.
 ==Shell types==
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 ==Visual discrepancy==
-Some vehicles may carry a different number of shells in its racks than are visibly modeled in the X-Ray view. This is known as "Visual discrepancy", and can occur in both a vehicle as a whole (eg a vehicle visually contains 80 shells but in fact only carries 60 when fully equipped) or in individual racks (eg a rack looks to contain 5 shells but 8 must be fired for it to deplete). These cases should be reported via the appropriate bug-reporting channels on the [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/forum/655-bug-reports/ Official War Thunder Forums]. Note that racks being modeled as a whole instead of individually is NOT visual discrepancy, and should not be reported or marked as such.
+Some vehicles may carry a number of shells in its racks than differs from the visibly modelled ammunition in the X-Ray view. This is known as "Visual discrepancy", and can occur in both a vehicle as a whole (e.g. a vehicle visually contains 80 shells but in fact only carries 60 when fully equipped) or in individual racks (e.g. a rack is visually modelled as containing 5 shells but 8 must be fired for it to deplete). These cases should be reported via the appropriate bug-reporting channels on the [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/forum/655-bug-reports/ Official War Thunder Forums]. Note that racks being modeled as a whole instead of individually is NOT visual discrepancy, and should not be reported or marked as such.
 =Optimized ammo rack loadout=
-The fastest way to get destroyed in tank battles is by detonation of the ammunition. Therefore, a good way to increase survivability is to reduce the number of shells loaded on the tank. Survivability is greatly reduced while shells are stored in bundles, distributed all around the tank in different locations. These racks can be seen with x-ray view, and are consumed while firing, rack-by-rack or shell-by-shell depending on the vehicle. Once a rack/shell is depleted, it cannot explode anymore, thereby decreasing the chance of getting 'ammo racked'.
+The fastest way to get destroyed in tank battles is by detonation of the ammunition. Therefore, a good way to increase survivability is to reduce the number of shells loaded on the tank. Survivability is greatly reduced while shells are stored in bundles, distributed all around the tank in different locations. These racks can be seen with x-ray view, and are consumed while firing, rack-by-rack or shell-by-shell depending on the vehicle. Once a rack/shell is depleted, it cannot explode anymore, thereby decreasing the chance of getting "ammo racked".
-Being 'ammo racked' is the situation in which a group of ammunition takes damage from enemy fire (gets shot by another tank) and causes the explosive mass in the ammunition to detonate. Any time ammunition inside the tank is detonated, it causes catastrophic damage to the tank.
+Being "ammo racked" is the situation in which a group of ammunition takes damage from enemy fire (gets shot by another tank) and causes the explosive mass in the ammunition to detonate. Any time ammunition inside the tank is detonated, it causes catastrophic damage to the tank.
 Each tank has a different ammo rack setup and therefore, there is no universal rule on how much a lower ammo count increases survivability. Ammo racks in the turret are much more susceptible to being shot, but there is no guarantee that the ammo rack in the turret is the first to be expended.
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 * [[Tank ammunition]]
 = External links =

Ammo racks - Revision history

U22067555: /* Modules */ mixed up, magazine detonation is more catastrophic than shell room detonation

U44629479: Edits

U4656018: /* Visual discrepancy */ revision to the Gaijin community platform for bug reports

U44629479: /* Media */ Added Shooting Range episode

U44629479: Edits

U38088265 at 22:36, 12 February 2023

U12017485: Added /* Modules */ which describes individual modules that can be found in the game's X-Ray view. Additionally tried to make /* Rack types */ a little bit less vehicle-centric, but realistically: it needs a complete rewrite from ground up.

U38088265 at 16:47, 2 May 2022

U44629479: Edits

U38088265 at 15:04, 19 August 2021

U12017485: Added /* Modules / which describes individual modules that can be found in the game's X-Ray view. Additionally tried to make / Rack types */ a little bit less vehicle-centric, but realistically: it needs a complete rewrite from ground up.