Admiral Hipper - Revision history

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U79203180: Rewritten the article to give a more accurate and updated description.

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Rewritten the article to give a more accurate and updated description.

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‎Scout plane

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‎Secondary armament

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 {{main|20.3 cm/60 SK C/34 (203 mm)}}
-''{{PAGENAME}}'s primary armaments consists of eight 203mm/60 SK C/34 cannons arranged in four twin turrets mounted A-Bs-Xs-Y. The guns are notable for being effective at dealing damage to all kinds of targets, save for battleships at range. The guns have a good reload time of 12 seconds (ace crew) and have a decent firing arc, giving  {{PAGENAME}} a consistent damage output against enemy ships.''
+The {{PAGENAME}}'s primary armaments consists of eight 203 mm/60 SK C/34 cannons arranged in four twin turrets mounted A-Bs-Xs-Y. The guns are notable for being effective at dealing damage to all kinds of targets, save for battleships at range. The guns have a good reload time of 12 seconds (ace crew) and have a decent firing arc, giving the {{PAGENAME}} a consistent damage output against enemy ships.
-''The 203mm guns have three shell choices; a HE shell with 8.8 kg of TNT, a SAP shell with decent penetration (160 mm at 10 km) and sizeable filler of 5.35 kg of TNT, and a powerful APCBC shell which has very high penetration (265 mm at 10 km) that allows  {{PAGENAME}} to deal damage against heavily-armoured dreadnoughts up close, and makes the ship especially deadly at closer range against any target.''
+The 203 mm guns have three shell choices; a HE shell with 8.8 kg TNTe, a SAP shell with decent penetration (160 mm at 10 km) and sizeable filler of 5.35 kg TNTe, and a powerful APCBC shell which has very high penetration (265 mm at 10 km) that allows the {{PAGENAME}} to deal damage against heavily-armoured dreadnoughts up close, and makes the ship especially deadly at closer range against any target.
-''As each shell has a high velocity of 925 m/s, this results in good accuracy, and thus makes aiming easier.''{{:20.3 cm/60 SK C/34 (203 mm)/Ammunition|20.3 cm L/4.7 Kz HE, 20.3 cm L/4.4 (m.Hb) APBC, 20.3 cm L/4.7 Bdz (m.Hb) SAP}}
+As each shell has a high velocity of 925 m/s, this results in good accuracy, and thus makes aiming easier.
 === Secondary armament ===

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 {{main|20.3 cm/60 SK C/34 (203 mm)}}
-''Provide information about the characteristics of the primary armament. Evaluate their efficacy in battle based on their reload speed, ballistics and the capacity of their shells. Add a link to the main article about the weapon: <code><nowiki>{{main|Weapon name (calibre)}}</nowiki></code>. Broadly describe the ammunition available for the primary armament, and provide recommendations on how to use it and which ammunition to choose.''
+''{{PAGENAME}}'s primary armaments consists of eight 203mm/60 SK C/34 cannons arranged in four twin turrets mounted A-Bs-Xs-Y. The guns are notable for being effective at dealing damage to all kinds of targets, save for battleships at range. The guns have a good reload time of 12 seconds (ace crew) and have a decent firing arc, giving  {{PAGENAME}} a consistent damage output against enemy ships.''
-{{:20.3 cm/60 SK C/34 (203 mm)/Ammunition|20.3 cm L/4.7 Kz HE, 20.3 cm L/4.4 (m.Hb) APBC, 20.3 cm L/4.7 Bdz (m.Hb) SAP}}
+''The 203mm guns have three shell choices; a HE shell with 8.8 kg of TNT, a SAP shell with decent penetration (160 mm at 10 km) and sizeable filler of 5.35 kg of TNT, and a powerful APCBC shell which has very high penetration (265 mm at 10 km) that allows  {{PAGENAME}} to deal damage against heavily-armoured dreadnoughts up close, and makes the ship especially deadly at closer range against any target.''
 === Secondary armament ===

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-|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
+|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
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 '''Pros:'''
-* Great quality main battery shells with a decent reload.
+* Great quality main battery shells with a decent reload
-* Plenty of AA armament.
+* Plenty of AA armament
-* Comprehensive armour layout, effective against cruiser and destroyer.
+* Comprehensive armour layout, effective against cruiser and destroyer
-* High crew count.
+* High crew count
-* Fairly mobile despite its size.
+* Fairly mobile despite its size
-* Equipped with a seaplane.
+* Equipped with a seaplane
 '''Cons:'''
-* Excessive listing at high speed or on a turn, resulting in poor aiming quality. The situation worsens in arcade battle.
+* Excessive listing at high speed or on a turn, resulting in poor aiming quality. The situation worsens in arcade battle
 * Large target, easily recognisable
-* The armour is relatively weak in terms of absolute thickness, meaning large calibre guns can overmatch your armour.
+* The armour is relatively weak in terms of absolute thickness, meaning large calibre guns can overmatch your armour
-* Very vulnerable main magazines.
+* Very vulnerable main magazines
-* Dual purpose 105 mm turrets only have timed-fuze AA shells, not the superior proximity-fuze.
+* No radar
 == History ==
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 Admiral Hipper, named after an imperial German admiral, was the first ship of the class to see completion, being commissioned into service in April 1939. After passing sea trials, Admiral Hipper was assigned to her first combat mission - Operation Weserübung - the invasion of Denmark and Norway, where it took part in a battle with the British destroyer Glowworm and also participated in the sinking of the trawler Juniper (930 tons) and the military transport Orama (19,000 registered tons). Subsequently, Admiral Hipper steamed out into the Atlantic to intercept allied shipping in December 1940, but without significant success. The first campaign wasn't particularly successful, but during the second campaign in January and February of 1941, the Admiral Hipper attacked SLS-64, an unprotected convoy - this attack on ship count alone, was the most effective from both world wars.
-Admiral Hipper was then transferred to Norway, where it took part in raids against the arctic convoys headed for the Soviet Union. As part of an operational group, it took part in Operation Rösselsprung (Knight's move) which, although not a success, resulted in the almost total destruction of the allied PQ-17 convoy by German submarines and aircraft. In December of 1942, during Operation Regenbogen (Rainbow) a battle took place in the Barents Sea which was unofficially labelled as "New Year's Battle" or "New Year's Shame" the ship was damaged and sent back to Germany for repair. The failure of the operation led to a historical decision by Hitler  to order the scrapping of all large warships. Admiral Hipper was transferred to the reserves and at the beginning of 1945, arrived in Kiel where it was damaged during allied air strikes in May of the same year. The defenders on the partially disarmed ship showed no enthusiasm for its survival and as a result, the ship burned out and sank to the dock seabed. After the war, the ship was once again raised and taken apart for scrap up to 1952.
+Admiral Hipper was then transferred to Norway, where it took part in raids against the arctic convoys headed for the Soviet Union. As part of an operational group, it took part in Operation Rösselsprung (Knight's move) which, although not a success, resulted in the almost total destruction of the allied PQ-17 convoy by German submarines and aircraft. In December of 1942, during Operation Regenbogen (Rainbow) a battle took place in the Barents Sea which was unofficially labelled as "New Year's Battle" or "New Year's Shame" the ship was damaged and sent back to Germany for repair. The failure of the operation led to a historical decision by Hitler to order the scrapping of all large warships. Admiral Hipper was transferred to the reserves and at the beginning of 1945, arrived in Kiel where it was damaged during allied air strikes in May of the same year. The defenders on the partially disarmed ship showed no enthusiasm for its survival and as a result, the ship burned out and sank to the dock seabed. After the war, the ship was once again raised and taken apart for scrap up to 1952.
 ''- From [[wt:en/news/6346-development-admiral-hipper-commanding-the-high-seas-en|Devblog]]''

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 {{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}
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-The Admiral Hipper is one of the most well-protected ships in the game, featuring strong armour covering much of the ship in a turtleback scheme. She also possesses one of the largest crew counts in the game. As a result, against more wild, undirected fire, the Admiral Hipper is extremely resilient. However, she possesses a few fatal and well-known weak spots: both frontal and rear magazines are massive and very prone to detonate when hit even by smaller 6-inch shells. As a result, it is best to stick to long range-engagements and frequently change your heading to prevent the enemy from precisely targeting it while making full use of your extremely high-penetrating shells.
+The Admiral Hipper, lead ship of her class, is one of the most powerful cruisers in the German bluewater fleet, featuring a comprehensive armour scheme that can be quite resilient against cruiser gunfire. Due to her intended purpose as a raider capable of capturing merchant ships, the Hipper has an unusually high crew count, which would have been used to crew captured ships in real life, but serves as an extra buffer of crew in game. However, she possesses a few fatal and well-known weak spots: both frontal and rear magazines are massive and very prone to detonation should an opposing player be able to penetrate their armour.
 === Mobility ===
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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-The Admiral Hipper is an immensely powerful heavy cruiser which shows very few signs of weakness. Like the other German cruisers, it's exceptionally strong, with great anti-torpedo protection and turtle back armour, giving it fantastic waterline armour. This, combined with a huge crew count, means the Hipper needs to take a huge amount of punishment to be sunk. The Hipper's main armament - eight 8-inch guns in dual turrets - is also very effective, with a 12-second reload and stunning armour penetration and muzzle velocity (enough in some cases to penetrate even battleship armour). It also boasts a strong secondary armament, a phenomenal anti-aircraft suite at both close and long range, and good torpedoes. The Hipper should be played as a long range brawler, able to dish it out and take damage from other heavy cruisers, while also combatting enemy aircraft with ease.
+The Admiral Hipper is a powerful heavy cruiser. It's well protected, with some anti-torpedo protection and turtle back armour. Combined with a large crew count, this means the Hipper usually needs to take a huge amount of punishment to be sunk, however experienced players in ships with good AP shells may be able to take out the ship in fairly short order by targeting its vulnerable magazines. The Hipper's main armament - eight 203 mm guns in dual turrets - is also very effective, with a 12-second reload and stunning armour penetration and muzzle velocity (enough in some cases to penetrate even battleship armour). It also boasts a decent secondary armament, a capable anti-aircraft suite and good all-round torpedoes. The Hipper should be played as a long range brawler, able to dish it out and take damage from other cruisers, potentially threatening capital ships at closer ranges. That being said, capital ships are still by far superior in terms of protection and firepower, you should only draw their attention if you're absolutely sure you can take them out first.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 '''Pros:'''
-* Phenomenal firepower from the main battery that can punish any cruiser at long range and even battleships that get too close
+* Great quality main battery shells with a decent reload.
-* Fantastic AA suite which can decimate aircraft even from long range
+* Plenty of AA armament.
-* Great armour protection against small calibre guns
+* Comprehensive armour layout, effective against cruiser and destroyer.
-* Huge crew size make it tough to sink, especially for light cruisers
+* High crew count.
-* Very mobile despite its size, allows it to reposition with ease
+* Fairly mobile despite its size.
-* One scout seaplane
+* Equipped with a seaplane.
 '''Cons:'''
 * Excessive listing at high speed or on a turn, resulting in poor aiming quality. The situation worsens in arcade battle.
-* The armour is weak in terms of absolute thickness, meaning large calibre guns can overmatch your armour
+* Large target, easily recognisable
-* Main battery magazines are located above shell rooms, meaning that a detonation is likely to be fatal
+* The armour is relatively weak in terms of absolute thickness, meaning large calibre guns can overmatch your armour.
 == History ==

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 {{main|20.3 cm/60 SK C/34 (203 mm)}}
-<!-- ''Provide information about the characteristics of the primary armament. Evaluate their efficacy in battle based on their reload speed, ballistics and the capacity of their shells. Add a link to the main article about the weapon: <code><nowiki>{{main|Weapon name (calibre)}}</nowiki></code>. Broadly describe the ammunition available for the primary armament, and provide recommendations on how to use it and which ammunition to choose.'' -->
+''Provide information about the characteristics of the primary armament. Evaluate their efficacy in battle based on their reload speed, ballistics and the capacity of their shells. Add a link to the main article about the weapon: <code><nowiki>{{main|Weapon name (calibre)}}</nowiki></code>. Broadly describe the ammunition available for the primary armament, and provide recommendations on how to use it and which ammunition to choose.''
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
-! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
+{{:20.3 cm/60 SK C/34 (203 mm)/Ammunition|20.3 cm L/4.7 Kz HE, 20.3 cm L/4.4 (m.Hb) APBC, 20.3 cm L/4.7 Bdz (m.Hb) SAP}}
 === Secondary armament ===
 {{Specs-Fleet-Secondary}}
-{{main|10.5 cm SK C/33 AA (105 mm)}}
+{{main|SK C/33 AA (105 mm)}}
-<!-- ''Some ships are fitted with weapons of various calibres. Secondary armaments are defined as weapons chosen with the control <code>Select secondary weapon</code>. Evaluate the secondary armaments and give advice on how to use them. Describe the ammunition available for the secondary armament. Provide recommendations on how to use them and which ammunition to choose. Remember that any anti-air armament, even heavy calibre weapons, belong in the next section. If there is no secondary armament, remove this section.'' -->
+{{:SK C/33 AA (105 mm)/Ammunition|10.5 cm Sprgr. L/4.4 Kpf.Z, 10.5 cm Sprgr. L/4.4 Zt.Z, 10.5 cm L/4.2 AP}}
 === Anti-aircraft armament ===
 {{Specs-Fleet-AA}}
-{{main|3.7 cm SK C/30 (37 mm)|2 cm/65 C/38 (20 mm)|2 cm/65 Flakvierling 38 (20 mm)}}
+{{main|SK C/30 (37 mm)|2 cm/65 C/38 (20 mm)|2 cm/65 Flakvierling 38 (20 mm)}}
 ''An important part of the ship's armament responsible for air defence. Anti-aircraft armament is defined by the weapon chosen with the control <code>Select anti-aircraft weapons</code>. Talk about the ship's anti-air cannons and machine guns, the number of guns and their positions, their effective range, and about their overall effectiveness – including against surface targets. If there are no anti-aircraft armaments, remove this section.''

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 === Scout plane ===
-{{main|Ar 196 A-3}}
+{{Specs-Fleet-Plane}}
 Located amidships is a single catapult for an Arado Ar 196 scout plane which provides unique offensive and defensive abilities, expanding tactical options. Ship-launched scout planes fly just like regular tree units, but lack munition choices and cockpit views. Alongside the typical abilities of strafing, dropping 2 x 50 kg bombs, and capping zones, the Ar 196 and other scout planes have the added ability to lay down smoke cover (up to 3 times). It is essentially the [[Ar 196 A-3|event aircraft]] except with smoke generators, so it will be a familiar unit for those who have the event version. Captains will be wise to remember to utilise the aircraft and consider when best to use it, for example to cap a point early or late in the match, to drop a smoke screen to stymie enemy bombardment and repair, to attack enemy units directly, or perhaps something completely new!