Admiral Graf Spee - Revision history

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a German cruiser with her class being known as "pocket battleships" because of their large guns and small size. They were designed to comply with the Treaty of Versailles, which limited the naval power of Germany after World War I. The Admiral Graf Spee was the most advanced and heavily armored of the class, and had a brief but successful career in World War II, sinking nine merchant ships in the Atlantic Ocean. However, she was cornered by a British task force at the River Plate, where she fought a fierce but inconclusive battle. She then sailed to Montevideo, where she was scuttled by her own crew to avoid capture.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a German cruiser of the Deutschland class, commonly referred to as the "pocket battleships" because of their large guns and small size. They were designed to comply with the Treaty of Versailles, which limited the naval power of Germany after World War I. The Admiral Graf Spee was the most advanced and heavily armoured of the class, and had a brief but successful career in World War II, sinking nine merchant ships in the Atlantic Ocean. However, she was cornered by a British task force at the River Plate, where she fought a fierce but inconclusive battle. She then sailed to Montevideo, where she was scuttled by her own crew to avoid capture.
-Introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]], the {{PAGENAME}} lives up to her "pocket battleship" moniker thanks to her slow but hard-hitting firepower. The Graf Spee primarily excels at long range engagements, capable of out-range any other cruiser at her rank. Her protection, while nowhere close to an actual battleship, is sufficient enough to take a considerable amount of damage, especially at longer ranges.
+Introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]], the {{PAGENAME}} lives up to her "pocket battleship" moniker thanks to her slow but hard-hitting firepower. The Graf Spee primarily excels at long range engagements, capable of out-ranging any other cruiser at her rank. Her protection, while nowhere close to an actual battleship's, is sufficient to take a considerable amount of damage, especially at longer ranges.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a German cruiser that belonged to the Deutschland-class, also known as "pocket battleships" because of their large guns and small size. They were designed to comply with the Treaty of Versailles, which limited the naval power of Germany after World War I. The Admiral Graf Spee was the most advanced and heavily armored of the class, and had a brief but successful career in World War II, sinking nine merchant ships in the Atlantic Ocean. However, she was cornered by a British task force at the River Plate, where she fought a fierce but inconclusive battle. She then sailed to Montevideo, where she was scuttled by her own crew to avoid capture.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a German cruiser with her class being known as "pocket battleships" because of their large guns and small size. They were designed to comply with the Treaty of Versailles, which limited the naval power of Germany after World War I. The Admiral Graf Spee was the most advanced and heavily armored of the class, and had a brief but successful career in World War II, sinking nine merchant ships in the Atlantic Ocean. However, she was cornered by a British task force at the River Plate, where she fought a fierce but inconclusive battle. She then sailed to Montevideo, where she was scuttled by her own crew to avoid capture.
 Introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]], the {{PAGENAME}} lives up to her "pocket battleship" moniker thanks to her slow but hard-hitting firepower. The Graf Spee primarily excels at long range engagements, capable of out-range any other cruiser at her rank. Her protection, while nowhere close to an actual battleship, is sufficient enough to take a considerable amount of damage, especially at longer ranges.

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German heavy cruiser {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]].
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a German cruiser that belonged to the Deutschland-class, also known as "pocket battleships" because of their large guns and small size. They were designed to comply with the Treaty of Versailles, which limited the naval power of Germany after World War I. The Admiral Graf Spee was the most advanced and heavily armored of the class, and had a brief but successful career in World War II, sinking nine merchant ships in the Atlantic Ocean. However, she was cornered by a British task force at the River Plate, where she fought a fierce but inconclusive battle. She then sailed to Montevideo, where she was scuttled by her own crew to avoid capture.
-The Deutschland-class cruiser is one of the first ship to be considered an archtypical of the so-called "pocket battleship". In many aspects, the class is essentially a modernized incarnations of an armoured cruiser of old, featuring large calibre armaments while having sufficient protection and speed to defend itself against anything but a capital ship.
+Introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]], the {{PAGENAME}} lives up to her "pocket battleship" moniker thanks to her slow but hard-hitting firepower. The Graf Spee primarily excels at long range engagements, capable of out-range any other cruiser at her rank. Her protection, while nowhere close to an actual battleship, is sufficient enough to take a considerable amount of damage, especially at longer ranges.
 == General info ==
 === Survivability and armour ===

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German heavy cruiser {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]].
 == General info ==
 === Survivability and armour ===

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 Another significant detriment is the very long reload time of 24.4 seconds (ace crew) resulting in a rather low DPS overall, and can make it hard to hit smaller targets at long ranges.
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
-! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
+{{:283 mm/52 SK C/28 (283 mm)/Ammunition|283 mm Spgr L/4.2 Kz HE, 283 mm Psgr L/3.7 APBC, 283 mm Spgr L/4.2 Bdz SAP}}
 === Secondary armament ===
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 The shell choice for the 150 mm guns, being shared with the [[Nürnberg]], is also very good. The gun has access to a high-penetrating APCBC that can reach the enemy cruiser's internal compartments and deal a considerable amount of damage, as well as a reliable HE and SAP shell. The gun is also good against PT boats due to its much shorter reload time at 7 seconds.
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
-! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
+{{:15 cm/55 SK C/28 (150 mm)/Ammunition|15 cm Spgr. L/4.5 Kz (m.Hb), 15 cm Pzgr. L/3.7 (m.Hb), 15 cm Spgr. L/4.4 Bdz (m.Hb)}}
 === Anti-aircraft armament ===
 {{Specs-Fleet-AA}}
 <!-- ''An important part of the ship's armament responsible for air defence. Anti-aircraft armament is defined by the weapon chosen with the control <code>Select anti-aircraft weapons</code>. Talk about the ship's anti-air cannons and machine guns, the number of guns and their positions, their effective range, and about their overall effectiveness – including against surface targets. If there are no anti-aircraft armaments, remove this section.'' -->
-{{main|10.5 cm SK C/33 AA (105 mm)|3.7 cm SK C/30 (37 mm)|2 cm/65 C/30 (20 mm)}}
+{{main|SK C/33 AA (105 mm)|SK C/30 (37 mm)|2 cm/65 C/30 (20 mm)}}
 Her AA suite is somewhat decent for a 1939 ship. The 105 mm cannons only have access to HE-TF ammunition, making it rather difficult to accurately shoot down aircraft, especially at the longer ranges where the other armaments are ineffective. However, the 37 mm and 20 mm cannons are enough to knock out even large aircraft at closer ranges. The lack of HE-VT is very noticeable, aircraft may still penetrate her AA fire to drop their ordnance.

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 === Scout plane ===
-{{main|Ar 196 A-3}}
+{{Specs-Fleet-Plane}}
 Located amidships is a single catapult for an Arado Ar 196 scout plane which provides unique offensive and defensive abilities, expanding tactical options. Ship-launched scout planes fly just like regular tree units but lack munition choices and cockpit views. Alongside the typical abilities of strafing, dropping 2 x 50 kg bombs, and capping zones, the Ar 196 and other scout planes have the added ability to lay down smoke cover (up to 3 times). It is essentially the [[Ar 196 A-3|event aircraft]] except with smoke generators, so it will be a familiar unit for those who have the event version. Captains will be wise to remember to utilise the aircraft and consider when best to use it, for example to cap a point early or late in the match, to create a smoke screen to stymie enemy bombardment and repair, to attack enemy units directly, or perhaps something completely new! Given the Admiral Graf Spee is vulnerable to damage, the smoke screen ability may be the most useful function to mask the ship while emergency repairs are performed.

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	The shell choice for the 150 mm guns, being shared with the [[Nürnberg]], is also very good. The gun has access to a high-penetrating APCBC that can reach the enemy cruiser's internal compartments and deal a considerable amount of damage, as well as a reliable HE and SAP shell. The gun is also good against PT boats due to its much shorter reload time at 7 seconds.		The shell choice for the 150 mm guns, being shared with the [[Nürnberg]], is also very good. The gun has access to a high-penetrating APCBC that can reach the enemy cruiser's internal compartments and deal a considerable amount of damage, as well as a reliable HE and SAP shell. The gun is also good against PT boats due to its much shorter reload time at 7 seconds.
		+	{\| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
		+	! colspan="8" \| Penetration statistics
		+	\|-
		+	! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" \| Ammunition
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Type of<br>warhead
		+	! colspan="6" \| Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
		+	\|-
		+	! 1,000 m !! 2,500 m !! 5,000 m !! 7,500 m !! 10,000 m !! 15,000 m
		+	\|-
		+	\| Spgr. L/4.5 Kz (m.Hb) \|\| HE \|\| 37 \|\| 37 \|\| 37 \|\| 37 \|\| 37 \|\| 37
		+	\|-
		+	\| Pzgr. L/3.7 (m.Hb) \|\| APCBC \|\| 246 \|\| 207 \|\| 157 \|\| 121 \|\| 95 \|\| 69
		+	\|-
		+	\| Spgr. L/4.4 Bdz (m.Hb) \|\| SAPBC \|\| 123 \|\| 104 \|\| 79 \|\| 60 \|\| 47 \|\| 36
		+	\|-
		+	\|}
		+	{\| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
		+	! colspan="10" \| Shell details
		+	\|-
		+	! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" \| Ammunition
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Type of<br>warhead
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Velocity<br>(m/s)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Projectile<br>mass (kg)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Fuse delay<br>(s)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (kg)
		+	! colspan="3" \| Ricochet
		+	\|-
		+	! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
		+	\|-
		+	\| Spgr. L/4.5 Kz (m.Hb) \|\| HE \|\| 875 \|\| 45.5 \|\| 0 \|\| 0.1 \|\| 3.91 \|\| 79° \|\| 80° \|\| 81°
		+	\|-
		+	\| Pzgr. L/3.7 (m.Hb) \|\| APCBC \|\| 875 \|\| 45.5 \|\| 0.015 \|\| 7 \|\| 1.32 \|\| 48° \|\| 63° \|\| 71°
		+	\|-
		+	\| Spgr. L/4.4 Bdz (m.Hb) \|\| SAPBC \|\| 875 \|\| 45.5 \|\| 0.015 \|\| 7 \|\| 3.32 \|\| 48° \|\| 63° \|\| 71°
		+	\|-
		+	\|}

	=== Anti-aircraft armament ===		=== Anti-aircraft armament ===

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	Another significant detriment is the very long reload time of 24.4 seconds (ace crew) resulting in a rather low DPS overall, and can make it hard to hit smaller targets at long ranges.		Another significant detriment is the very long reload time of 24.4 seconds (ace crew) resulting in a rather low DPS overall, and can make it hard to hit smaller targets at long ranges.
		+	{\| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
		+	! colspan="8" \| Penetration statistics
		+	\|-
		+	! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" \| Ammunition
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Type of<br>warhead
		+	! colspan="6" \| Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
		+	\|-
		+	! 1,000 m !! 2,500 m !! 5,000 m !! 7,500 m !! 10,000 m !! 15,000 m
		+	\|-
		+	\| Spgr L/4.2 Kz HE \|\| HE \|\| 65 \|\| 65 \|\| 65 \|\| 65 \|\| 65 \|\| 65
		+	\|-
		+	\| Psgr L/3.7 APBC \|\| APCBC \|\| 541 \|\| 498 \|\| 434 \|\| 380 \|\| 335 \|\| 267
		+	\|-
		+	\| Spgr L/4.2 Bdz SAP \|\| SAPBC \|\| 280 \|\| 258 \|\| 225 \|\| 197 \|\| 173 \|\| 138
		+	\|-
		+	\|}
		+	{\| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
		+	! colspan="10" \| Shell details
		+	\|-
		+	! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" \| Ammunition
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Type of<br>warhead
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Velocity<br>(m/s)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Projectile<br>mass (kg)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Fuse delay<br>(s)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
		+	! rowspan="2" \| Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (kg)
		+	! colspan="3" \| Ricochet
		+	\|-
		+	! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
		+	\|-
		+	\| Spgr L/4.2 Kz HE \|\| HE \|\| 910 \|\| 300 \|\| 0 \|\| 0.1 \|\| 23.33 \|\| 79° \|\| 80° \|\| 81°
		+	\|-
		+	\| Psgr L/3.7 APBC \|\| APCBC \|\| 910 \|\| 300 \|\| 0.035 \|\| 15 \|\| 7.84 \|\| 48° \|\| 63° \|\| 71°
		+	\|-
		+	\| Spgr L/4.2 Bdz SAP \|\| SAPBC \|\| 910 \|\| 300 \|\| 0.035 \|\| 15 \|\| 16.94 \|\| 48° \|\| 63° \|\| 71°
		+	\|-
		+	\|}

	=== Secondary armament ===		=== Secondary armament ===

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 The {{PAGENAME}} is a good ship to learn how to play as a dreadnought. Due to her huge 283 mm guns with long reload time, she has to rely on her secondary 150 mm guns to deal more consistent damage while the main guns are reloading. Thus, you will learn how to cycle between the main and secondary guns and handle both of them efficiently.
 Keep your distance from enemy cruisers (at least 12 km) or use island cover. You cannot out-shoot, or out-gun any other cruiser in game, your main advantage is range and punch. While she can take some hits, she remains a heavy cruiser, avoid getting focused by many enemy units. The enemy will want to sink you first as they are afraid of your massive firepower. Your best target are dreadnoughts, not only because you're the only cruiser out there that can reliably hurt them, but being slow and big are easier to hit at long ranges.