ASU-85 - Revision history

U91234167: /* Usage in battles */ Added some new weakspot data for some common heavy vehicles, removed some vehicles such as Panther II and Tiger 2 105mm (they arent common at all)

2024-02-23T14:13:03Z

‎Usage in battles: Added some new weakspot data for some common heavy vehicles, removed some vehicles such as Panther II and Tiger 2 105mm (they arent common at all)

U38088265: /* Main armament */ Updated

2023-10-21T22:09:24Z

‎Main armament: Updated

U38088265: /* Description */

2023-10-08T09:25:46Z

‎Description

U74396666: New Description Project - USSR Priority - ASU-85

2023-10-07T23:12:26Z

New Description Project - USSR Priority - ASU-85

U9202753: Specs-Card ArtImage Added

2023-04-27T20:12:35Z

Specs-Card ArtImage Added

U38088265: /* Ammunition */ Converted to transclusion

2023-01-28T18:04:28Z

‎Ammunition: Converted to transclusion

U44629479: Edits

2022-11-01T09:01:09Z

Edits

U6383140: /* Ammo racks */ Unknown Update changed Ammo Rack ordering for ASU-85. Updated rack list and suggested loadout

2022-11-01T08:15:36Z

‎Ammo racks: Unknown Update changed Ammo Rack ordering for ASU-85. Updated rack list and suggested loadout

U38088265: /* Ammunition */ Updated

2022-09-28T11:14:16Z

‎Ammunition: Updated

U38088265: /* Main armament */ Updated

2021-12-04T23:09:03Z

‎Main armament: Updated

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 The smokes screens themselves are very thin and allow ASU-85 to see through them with sniper scope and attack. In arcade mode, ASU-85 can use smoke screen to disable aim assist and spotting for enemy vehicles while still being able to track their position with scouting, which works well with its ability to bounce poorly aimed shots. The APDS-like APHE and HEAT-FS also help with fighting with aim assist off, which makes it a viable trick, though it will not help if enemy already took aim at ASU-85 and is just waiting for reload to finish.
-Common opponent weakspots:
+Heavily armored opponent's weakspots:
-* Tiger II [[Tiger II (P)|(P)]], [[Tiger II (H)|(H)]], [[Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K)|105 mm]]: Turret cheeks. HEAT-FS can penetrate the hull front.
+* Tiger II [[Tiger II (P)|(P)]]/[[Tiger II (H)|(H)]]: Turret cheeks are penetrable by APCBC even at 1.2km. Shoot the left cheek to kill all turret crew and wound the hull crew.
-* [[Panther II]]: APBC can penetrate the turret face. HEAT-FS can penetrate the hull front.
+* T26E5: Cupola, turret ring and hull MG port remain weakspots even up to 2km with APCBC.
 * [[T29]]: Lower glacis. There are also weakspots in the gun mantlet, but they may be hard to hit at anything but close range.
 * [[Caernarvon]]: Turret ring and lower glacis.
 * [[Tortoise]]: Area surrounding the hull machine gun port.
-* [[T95]]: Cupolas may be penetrated but do not trigger the explosive filler of AP rounds.
+* [[T95]]: Cupolas may be penetrated but will not generate enough spall to reliably kill more than 1 crew member. HEAT-FS also does not seem to be capable of consistently disabling more than 1 crew member. Suggest breaking their gun and running away to flank them. The upper section of the T95's sides are vulnerable to APCBC even at 1km.
-* [[Jagdtiger]]: HEAT-FS can penetrate the hull front and superstructure.
+* [[Jagdtiger]]: APCBC can penetrate lower glacis and hull MG port up to 800m. 1-shot kill is in theory possible with HEAT-FS, but you will need to aim at the left or right cheeks to hit the ammo.
 === Pros and cons ===

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 ! ''Arcade''
-| rowspan="2" | 39 || rowspan="2" | -4°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±15° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 6.2 || 8.5 || 10.4 || 11.5 || 12.2 || rowspan="2" | 9.23 || rowspan="2" | 8.17 || rowspan="2" | 7.53 || rowspan="2" | 7.10
+| rowspan="2" | 39 || rowspan="2" | -4°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±15° || rowspan="2" | - || 6.2 || 8.5 || 10.4 || 11.5 || 12.2 || rowspan="2" | 7.80 || rowspan="2" | 6.90 || rowspan="2" | 6.36 || rowspan="2" | 6.00
 |-
 ! ''Realistic''

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''ASU-85 (Авиадесантная самоходная установка, АСУ-85)''' is a Cold War-era Soviet-designed airborne self-propelled gun. It began to replace the open-topped [[ASU-57]] in service in 1959. Beginning in 1969, it was superseded by the BMD-1. It was designed to replace older designs such as the ASU-57 for use by the Vozdushno-Desantnye Voyska (VDV). Its design was lengthy and intricate, and it took nearly ten years to complete due to the demanding demands of getting the vehicle airborne. The ASU-85 saw duty as late as the Soviet-Afghan War, but it was far from widespread. The ASU-85 is based on the [[PT-76 (Family)|PT-76 light amphibious tank family]] chassis, however, it lacks amphibious characteristics and is powered by a different engine. The vehicle is divided into three compartments: the driver's compartment at the front, the combat compartment in the centre, and the engine compartment in the back. The ASU-85 was utilized in airborne missions by the Soviet Airborne Forces. With minimal anti-tank capability, its primary function was light infantry support or assault fortifications. The ASU-85 was only exported to two other Warsaw Pact countries: East Germany and Poland. NATO first noticed it in 1962, and it was frequently utilized by Soviet and Polish airborne units.
+The '''ASU-85 (Авиадесантная самоходная установка, АСУ-85)''' was a Cold War-era Soviet-designed airborne self-propelled gun. It began to replace the open-topped [[ASU-57]] in service in 1959. Beginning in 1969, it was superseded by the BMD-1. It was designed to replace older designs such as the ASU-57 for use by the Vozdushno-Desantnye Voyska (VDV). Its design was lengthy and intricate, and it took nearly ten years to complete due to the demanding demands of getting the vehicle airborne. The ASU-85 saw duty as late as the Soviet-Afghan War, but it was far from widespread. The ASU-85 was based on the [[PT-76 (Family)|PT-76 light amphibious tank family]] chassis, however, it lacked amphibious characteristics and was powered by a different engine. The vehicle was divided into three compartments: the driver's compartment at the front, the combat compartment in the centre, and the engine compartment in the back. The ASU-85 was utilized in airborne missions by the Soviet Airborne Forces. With minimal anti-tank capability, its primary function was light infantry support or assault fortifications. The ASU-85 was only exported to two other Warsaw Pact countries: East Germany and Poland. NATO first noticed it in 1962, and it was frequently utilized by Soviet and Polish airborne units.
-Introduced in [[Update 1.59 "Flaming Arrows"]], the ASU-85 is a unique vehicle that survives on the battlefield through stealth. It is particularly vulnerable if caught in the open due to the very low roof armour, especially against planes. The armament can deal with almost any tank that the ASU-85 is likely to encounter. Unfortunately, the ASU-85 lacks the mobility of its forefather, the ASU-57, and must play more passively. On city maps, where engagements are typically close-range, this could be a problem. Overall, the ASU-85 is a situational vehicle that excels on large maps and circumstances where the terrain allows for stealth ambush but struggles in close-quarters combat.
+Introduced in [[Update 1.59 "Flaming Arrows"]], the ASU-85 is a unique vehicle that survives on the battlefield through stealth. It is particularly vulnerable if caught in the open due to the very thin roof armour, especially against planes. The armament can deal with almost any tank that the ASU-85 is likely to encounter. Unfortunately, the ASU-85 lacks the mobility of its forefather, the ASU-57, and must play more passively. On city maps, where engagements are typically close-range, this could be a problem. Overall, the ASU-85 is a situational vehicle that excels on large maps and circumstances where the terrain allows for stealth ambush but struggles in close-quarters combat.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.59 "Flaming Arrows"]]. It was designed to provide the VDV (''Vozdushno-Desantnye Voyska''), the Soviet airborne forces, with an air-portable self-propelled gun for independent fire support and anti-tank capability in support of paratroopers during airborne operations.
+The '''ASU-85 (Авиадесантная самоходная установка, АСУ-85)''' is a Cold War-era Soviet-designed airborne self-propelled gun. It began to replace the open-topped [[ASU-57]] in service in 1959. Beginning in 1969, it was superseded by the BMD-1. It was designed to replace older designs such as the ASU-57 for use by the Vozdushno-Desantnye Voyska (VDV). Its design was lengthy and intricate, and it took nearly ten years to complete due to the demanding demands of getting the vehicle airborne. The ASU-85 saw duty as late as the Soviet-Afghan War, but it was far from widespread. The ASU-85 is based on the [[PT-76 (Family)|PT-76 light amphibious tank family]] chassis, however, it lacks amphibious characteristics and is powered by a different engine. The vehicle is divided into three compartments: the driver's compartment at the front, the combat compartment in the centre, and the engine compartment in the back. The ASU-85 was utilized in airborne missions by the Soviet Airborne Forces. With minimal anti-tank capability, its primary function was light infantry support or assault fortifications. The ASU-85 was only exported to two other Warsaw Pact countries: East Germany and Poland. NATO first noticed it in 1962, and it was frequently utilized by Soviet and Polish airborne units.
 == General info ==

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 {{Specs-Card
 |code=ussr_asu_85
-|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
+|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
 }}

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 ==== Ammunition ====
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:D-70 (85 mm)/Ammunition|BR-372, 3BK7, OF-372}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
 [[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]
-<!-- '''Last updated:1/11/2022''' -->
+<!-- '''Last updated: 2.21.1.18''' -->
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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 '''Notes''':
-* Left Side Empty: 20 (+19)
+* Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
 === Machine guns ===

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 ! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 |-
-| BR-372 || APCBC || 245 || 242 || 230 || 216 || 202 || 190
+| BR-372 || APCBC || 245 || 242 || 229 || 214 || 200 || 187
 |-
 | 3BK7 || HEATFS || 300 || 300 || 300 || 300 || 300 || 300
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 ! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
 ! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
-! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
+! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>mass (kg)
 ! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
 ! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
-! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
+! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
 ! colspan="3" | Ricochet
 |-

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 {{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
 <!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' -->
 The front upper glacis plate, while only 45 mm thick, is quite heavily sloped and can occasionally ricochet rounds. The mantlet is also quite thick and rounded, and it can also bounce the occasional lucky shot.
 However, the rest of the ASU-85 is very thinly armoured and vulnerable to even heavy machine guns. Angling is useless in this tank, since thin armour parts get overmatched by high calibre shells and they just ignore ricochet chance completely. If it is necessary to give the enemy something to fire at, it is possible to take only half of the shells and then present the left side to the enemy, as it will have less ammo racks, though it is still likely the entire tank will be obliterated anyway.
 The tank itself is very short and can even bully tanks like the [[M4A3 (76) W]] by standing next to them, as it will only be able to aim at the autobounce zone on top of the ASU-85 and will likely miss. In the case if the tank it stands next to explodes, the ASU-85 will also suffer overpressure damage and often lose crew, so moderate levels of "vitality" crew skill are needed to survive when doing this.
 The ASU-85 is also somewhat vulnerable to aircraft strafing, particularly if they attack from the top or with rockets.
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 ! ''Arcade''
-| rowspan="2" | 39 || rowspan="2" | -4°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±15° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 6.2 || 8.5 || 10.4 || 11.5 || 12.2 || rowspan="2" | 11.18 || rowspan="2" | 9.89 || rowspan="2" | 9.12 || rowspan="2" | 8.60
+| rowspan="2" | 39 || rowspan="2" | -4°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±15° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 6.2 || 8.5 || 10.4 || 11.5 || 12.2 || rowspan="2" | 9.23 || rowspan="2" | 8.17 || rowspan="2" | 7.53 || rowspan="2" | 7.10
 |-
 ! ''Realistic''
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 ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 ! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
-! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
+! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
 |-
 ! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m