AMX-32 (105) - Revision history

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‎Mobility: Horsepower wasn't matching in-game stats.

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U68324105: Undo revision 175575 by U68324105 (talk)

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U68324105 at 21:14, 29 October 2023

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U68324105: Major changes to grammar, improvement of general info, improvement of mobility info, acceleration and mobility (pro -> con), addition of survivablity and armor tab, addition of Usage in Battle tab, addition of history tab.

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Major changes to grammar, improvement of general info, improvement of mobility info, acceleration and mobility (pro -> con), addition of survivablity and armor tab, addition of Usage in Battle tab, addition of history tab.

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 {{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}
 <!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->
-The 697 hp engine found on the AMX-30 series tanks is the main cause of the AMX-32 (105)'s mobility struggles. Due to such a low powered engine, the AMX-32 (105) is slow to accelerate and doesn't fit in the role of 'hit and run', leaning towards a more static role in game. The tank is capable of neutral steering and can reverse at the same speed as it can go forward. Use these to your advantage when engaging targets, but be cautious when peeking targets as you may require more time to get into position than you anticipate.
+The 680 hp engine found on the AMX-30 series tanks is the main cause of the AMX-32 (105)'s mobility struggles. Due to such a low powered engine, the AMX-32 (105) is slow to accelerate and doesn't fit in the role of 'hit and run', leaning towards a more static role in game. The tank is capable of neutral steering and can reverse at the same speed as it can go forward. Use these to your advantage when engaging targets, but be cautious when peeking targets as you may require more time to get into position than you anticipate.
 When stock, the AMX-32 (105) struggles to reach 30 km/h on flat terrain. However, this doesn't imply that it can't achieve higher speeds. The AMX-32 (105) can attain its maximum speed on paved roads and other hard surfaces, but the AMX-32 (105) can easily lose up to 10 km/h when turning. You shouldn't expect to be the first to reach the best locations, you may not even reach the capture point in time until your teammates have capped it. Spading the vehicle will lead to a boost in its acceleration and enable it to reach higher speeds more efficiently.
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 For those who are used to the AMX-30 Super, this tank will feel terrible due to its lack of mobility, but this shouldn't discourage you from playing the AMX-32 (105). While the AMX-32 (105) leaves somethings to be desired when it comes to mobility, its weapon systems and stabilized cannon make up for its disadvantages.
-{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,054|rbMinHp=619}}
+{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,085|rbMinHp=619|rbForwardSpeed=65|rbReverseSpeed=65|abForwardSpeed=72|abReverseSpeed=72|rbMaxHp=697|abMaxHp=1320|weight=38}}
 === Modifications and economy ===

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 For those who are used to the AMX-30 Super, this tank will feel terrible due to its lack of mobility, but this shouldn't discourage you from playing the AMX-32 (105). While the AMX-32 (105) leaves somethings to be desired when it comes to mobility, its weapon systems and stabilized cannon make up for its disadvantages.
-{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,054|rbMinHp=601}}
+{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,054|rbMinHp=619}}
 === Modifications and economy ===

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 {{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}
 <!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->
-The 680 hp engine found on the AMX-30 series tanks is the main cause of the AMX-32 (105)'s mobility struggles. Due to such a low powered engine, the AMX-32 (105) is slow to accelerate and doesn't fit in the role of 'hit and run', leaning towards a more static role in game. The tank is capable of neutral steering and can reverse at the same speed as it can go forward. Use these to your advantage when engaging targets, but be cautious when peeking targets as you may require more time to get into position than you anticipate.
+The 697 hp engine found on the AMX-30 series tanks is the main cause of the AMX-32 (105)'s mobility struggles. Due to such a low powered engine, the AMX-32 (105) is slow to accelerate and doesn't fit in the role of 'hit and run', leaning towards a more static role in game. The tank is capable of neutral steering and can reverse at the same speed as it can go forward. Use these to your advantage when engaging targets, but be cautious when peeking targets as you may require more time to get into position than you anticipate.
 When stock, the AMX-32 (105) struggles to reach 30 km/h on flat terrain. However, this doesn't imply that it can't achieve higher speeds. The AMX-32 (105) can attain its maximum speed on paved roads and other hard surfaces, but the AMX-32 (105) can easily lose up to 10 km/h when turning. You shouldn't expect to be the first to reach the best locations, you may not even reach the capture point in time until your teammates have capped it. Spading the vehicle will lead to a boost in its acceleration and enable it to reach higher speeds more efficiently.

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 ! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
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-| Hull || 35 mm (75°) ''Upper Glacis'' <br> 50 mm (26°) ''Lower Glacis'' <br>  25 mm (79°) ''Belly'' <br> 57 mm (4°-57°) ''Hull over tracks'' || 35 mm (35°) + 20 mm ''Top'' <br> 30 mm + 6 mm ''Bottom'' || 30 mm (0°-15°) <br> 25 mm (71°) ''Belly'' || 10 - 15 mm
+| Hull || 35 mm (75°) ''Upper Glacis'' <br> 50 mm (26°) ''Lower Glacis'' <br> 25 mm (79°) ''Belly'' <br> 57 mm (4°-57°) ''Hull over tracks'' || 35 mm (35°) + 20 mm ''Top'' <br> 30 mm + 6 mm ''Bottom'' || 30 mm (0°-15°) <br> 25 mm (71°) ''Belly'' || 10 - 15 mm
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 | Turret || 30 mm (78°) ''Front slope'' <br> 41,5 mm (7°-8°-22°) ''Cheeks'' <br> 80 mm (rounded) ''Gun mantlet'' <br> 50 mm (rounded) ''MG port'' <br> 60 mm (rounded) ''Sides of mantlet'' || 41,5 mm (18°-22°) || 30 mm + 4 mm || 15 - 20 mm

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The AMX-32 (105) is the first prototype subvariant of the AMX-32, being the third variant of the AMX-30 main battle tank family. Ateliers de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux and Atelier de Construction de Puteaux co-developed an export tank in the late 1970s during the Cold War to meet a specific market niche for nations with low defense budgets. No production orders were made despite the development of six prototypes. In June 1979, the first prototype of a modified and improved AMX-30 for the export market, the AMX-32 (105), was presented. By deliberately duplicating the spaced armour system on the German Leopard 1A3 and Leopard 1A4, the AMX-32 (105) obtained similar armour protection and enhanced survivability against anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs). Introduced in Update "Apex Predators", the AMX-32 (105) shares several key features of the AMX-30 Super such as a two-plane fully automatic stabilization system and thermal imaging equipment for the gunner. Conversely, the AMX-32 (105) suffers from being sluggish due to using the 680 hp engine found on the AMX-30 series tanks, in comparison to the 850 hp engine of the AMX-30 Super. Nonetheless, the AMX-32 (105) is a formidable vehicle that necessitates a distinct play-style due to its lacklustre mobility and armour.
+The '''AMX-32 (105)''' is the first prototype subvariant of the AMX-32, which is the third variant of the [[AMX-30 (Family)|AMX-30 main battle tank family]]. Ateliers de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux and Atelier de Construction de Puteaux co-developed an export tank in the late 1970s during the Cold War to meet a specific market niche of nations with low defence budgets. Despite the development of six prototypes, there was no interest in foreign sales. In June 1979, the AMX-32 P1, the first prototype of an improved and modified AMX-30 for the export market, was presented. The AMX-32 P1 deliberately duplicated the spaced armour system on the German Leopard 1A3 and Leopard 1A4, resulting in better armour protection and enhanced survivability against anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs). However, no orders were ever placed.
 == General info ==
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 '''Armour type:'''
-* Rolled homogeneous armour and cast homogeneous armour on the mantlet
+* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, turret)
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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The AMX-32 P1 is the first prototype sub-variant of the AMX-32, being the third variant of the AMX-30 main battle tank family. Ateliers de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux and Atelier de Construction de Puteaux co-developed an export tank in the late 1970s during the Cold War to meet a specific market niche for nations with low defense budgets. No production orders were made despite the development of six prototypes. In June 1979, the first prototype of a modified and improved AMX-30 for the export market, the AMX-32 P1, was presented. By deliberately duplicating the spaced armor system on the German Leopard 1A3 and Leopard 1A4, the AMX-32 P1 obtained similar armor protection and enhanced survivability against anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs). Introduced in Update "Apex Predators", the AMX-32 P1 shares several key features of the AMX-30 Super such as a two-plane fully automatic stabilization system and thermal imaging equipment for the gunner. Conversely, the AMX-32 P1 suffers from being sluggish due to using the 680hp engine found on the AMX-30 series tanks, in comparison to the 850hp engine of the AMX-30 Super. Nonetheless, the AMX-32 P1 is a formidable vehicle that necessitates a distinct play-style due to its lackluster mobility and armor.
+The AMX-32 (105) is the first prototype subvariant of the AMX-32, being the third variant of the AMX-30 main battle tank family. Ateliers de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux and Atelier de Construction de Puteaux co-developed an export tank in the late 1970s during the Cold War to meet a specific market niche for nations with low defense budgets. No production orders were made despite the development of six prototypes. In June 1979, the first prototype of a modified and improved AMX-30 for the export market, the AMX-32 (105), was presented. By deliberately duplicating the spaced armour system on the German Leopard 1A3 and Leopard 1A4, the AMX-32 (105) obtained similar armour protection and enhanced survivability against anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs). Introduced in Update "Apex Predators", the AMX-32 (105) shares several key features of the AMX-30 Super such as a two-plane fully automatic stabilization system and thermal imaging equipment for the gunner. Conversely, the AMX-32 (105) suffers from being sluggish due to using the 680 hp engine found on the AMX-30 series tanks, in comparison to the 850 hp engine of the AMX-30 Super. Nonetheless, the AMX-32 (105) is a formidable vehicle that necessitates a distinct play-style due to its lacklustre mobility and armour.
 == General info ==
-=== Survivability and armor ===
+=== Survivability and armour ===
 {{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
 <!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' -->
-Like other NATO main battle tanks in the early 1960s, the emphasis on armored combat shifted from heavy armor to a more agile and less armored tank. This ideology is reflected in the AMX-30 and 32 series tanks, which are often regarded as the least protected main battle tanks ever produced. With only ~130mm of effective armor on the upper front glacis, and ~65mm effective armor on the lower front glacis and gun mantlet, the AMX-32 P1's biggest opponent is auto-cannon-armed vehicles. The AMX-32 P1 is capable of stopping all rounds below AP 23mm frontally and at 500 meters side-facing.
+Like other NATO main battle tanks in the early 1960s, the emphasis on armoured combat shifted from heavy armour to a more agile and less armoured tank. This ideology is reflected in the AMX-30 and 32 series tanks, which are often regarded as the least protected main battle tanks ever produced. With only ~130 mm of effective armour on the upper front glacis, and ~65 mm effective armour on the lower front glacis and gun mantlet, the AMX-32 (105)'s biggest opponent is autocannon-armed vehicles. The AMX-32 (105) is capable of stopping all rounds below AP 23 mm frontally and at 500 m side-facing.
 '''Armour type:'''
-* Rolled homogeneous armor and cast homogeneous armor on the mantlet
+* Rolled homogeneous armour and cast homogeneous armour on the mantlet
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-! Armor !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
+! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 |-
 | Hull || 35 mm (75°) ''Upper Glacis'' <br> 50 mm (26°) ''Lower Glacis'' <br>  25 mm (79°) ''Belly'' <br> 57 mm (4°-57°) ''Hull over tracks'' || 35 mm (35°) + 20 mm ''Top'' <br> 30 mm + 6 mm ''Bottom'' || 30 mm (0°-15°) <br> 25 mm (71°) ''Belly'' || 10 - 15 mm
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 '''Notes:'''
-* Suspension wheels, tracks, and torsion bars are 20 mm thick structural steel.
+* Suspension wheels, tracks, and torsion bars are 20 mm thick.
 === Mobility ===
 {{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}
 <!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->
-The 680 hp engine found on the AMX-30 series tanks is the main cause of the AMX-32 P1's mobility struggles. Due to such a low powered engine, the AMX-32 P1 is slow to accelerate and doesn't fit in the role of 'hit and run', leaning towards a more static role in game. The tank is capable of neutral steering and can reverse at the same speed as it can go forward. Use these to your advantage when engaging targets, but be cautious when peeking targets as you may require more time to get into position than you anticipate.
+The 680 hp engine found on the AMX-30 series tanks is the main cause of the AMX-32 (105)'s mobility struggles. Due to such a low powered engine, the AMX-32 (105) is slow to accelerate and doesn't fit in the role of 'hit and run', leaning towards a more static role in game. The tank is capable of neutral steering and can reverse at the same speed as it can go forward. Use these to your advantage when engaging targets, but be cautious when peeking targets as you may require more time to get into position than you anticipate.
-When stock, the AMX-32 P1 struggles to reach 30 km/h on flat terrain. However, this doesn't imply that it can't achieve higher speeds. The AMX-32 P1 can attain its maximum speed on paved roads and other hard surfaces, but the AMX-32 P1 can easily lose up to 10 km/h when turning. You shouldn't expect to be the first to reach the best locations, you may not even reach the capture point in time until your teammates have capped it. Spading the vehicle will lead to a boost in its acceleration and enable it to reach higher speeds more efficiently.
+When stock, the AMX-32 (105) struggles to reach 30 km/h on flat terrain. However, this doesn't imply that it can't achieve higher speeds. The AMX-32 (105) can attain its maximum speed on paved roads and other hard surfaces, but the AMX-32 (105) can easily lose up to 10 km/h when turning. You shouldn't expect to be the first to reach the best locations, you may not even reach the capture point in time until your teammates have capped it. Spading the vehicle will lead to a boost in its acceleration and enable it to reach higher speeds more efficiently.
-For those who are used to the AMX-30 Super, this tank will feel terrible due to its lack of mobility, but this shouldn't discourage you from playing the AMX-32 P1. While the AMX-32 P1 leaves somethings to be desired when it comes to mobility, its weapon systems and stabilized cannon make up for its disadvantages.
+For those who are used to the AMX-30 Super, this tank will feel terrible due to its lack of mobility, but this shouldn't discourage you from playing the AMX-32 (105). While the AMX-32 (105) leaves somethings to be desired when it comes to mobility, its weapon systems and stabilized cannon make up for its disadvantages.
 {{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,054|rbMinHp=601}}
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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-Patience is key to using the AMX-32 P1 in all game modes. Although the tank has been stabilized, it remains ineffective as a 'run and gun' tank. The best ways to play the AMX-32 P1 is to take it slow when moving up, use lots of cover and wait for the enemies to come to you, and avoid auto-cannon armed vehicles. When engaging vehicles with auto-cannons, be as cautious as possible as they are your most dangerous enemy. If you're found in a situation where you both know each other's location, do not attempt to go head to head with them, as this will result in your death. Either reposition your tank to a new location or wait until their attention is diverted to a different vehicle to push out and attack.
+Patience is key to using the AMX-32 (105) in all game modes. Although the tank has been stabilized, it remains ineffective as a 'run and gun' tank. The best ways to play the AMX-32 (105) is to take it slow when moving up, use lots of cover and wait for the enemies to come to you, and avoid autocannon armed vehicles. When engaging vehicles with autocannons, be as cautious as possible as they are your most dangerous enemy. If you're found in a situation where you both know each other's location, do not attempt to go head to head with them, as this will result in your death. Either reposition your tank to a new location or wait until their attention is diverted to a different vehicle to push out and attack.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 '''Pros:'''
-* Coaxial 20 mm auto-cannon with its own independent elevation
+* Coaxial 20 mm autocannon with its own independent elevation
 * One of the few French tanks with a stabilizer
 * Access to a laser rangefinder and thermal optics for the gunner to assist in accurate long-range fighting
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 '''Cons:'''
-* Lower frontal glacis armor and turret mantlet unable to stop any AP auto-cannon munitions of a caliber higher than 23mm
+* Lower frontal glacis armour and turret mantlet unable to stop any AP autocannon munitions of a calibre higher than 23 mm
-* Lackluster acceleration and mobility
+* Lacklustre acceleration and mobility
 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-With designs starting in 1975 for the AMX-32 series main battle tanks Ateliers de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux and Atelier de Construction de Puteaux presented the first prototypes produced in June 1979 at Satory VII Exhibition of Military Equipment and Weapons. This version, the AMX-32 P1 consisted of a reworked turret, moving from cast homogeneous armor to rolled homogeneous armor, alongside adding the M527 gyrostabilized panoramic sight for the commander. The AMX-32's chassis underwent a revision, which included changing the front glacis armor from 79mm cast homogeneous armor to 35mm rolled homogeneous armor. To enhance HEAT projectile protection, 6mm rolled homogeneous armor skirts were added to cover the tracks and lower side plate. Although the tank was intended for export, there were no export orders received, and the AMX-32 project was ultimately scrapped soon after.
+With designs starting in 1975 for the AMX-32 series main battle tanks Ateliers de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux and Atelier de Construction de Puteaux presented the first prototypes produced in June 1979 at Satory VII Exhibition of Military Equipment and Weapons. This version, the AMX-32 (105) consisted of a reworked turret, moving from cast homogeneous armour to rolled homogeneous armour, alongside adding the M527 gyrostabilized panoramic sight for the commander. The AMX-32's chassis underwent a revision, which included changing the front glacis armour from 79 mm cast homogeneous armour to 35 mm rolled homogeneous armour. To enhance HEAT projectile protection, 6 mm rolled homogeneous armour skirts were added to cover the tracks and lower side plate. Although the tank was intended for export, there were no export orders received, and the AMX-32 project was ultimately scrapped soon after.
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