AGS - Revision history

U38088265: /* Pros and cons */

2024-07-13T08:34:27Z

‎Pros and cons

U77344586: Removed "Low zoom optics" from cons and replaced it with "A pretty good sight magnification (x2.6-x8)" in the Pros section, added "A very good horizontal vertical targeting speed" in the Pros section

2024-07-09T08:28:09Z

Removed "Low zoom optics" from cons and replaced it with "A pretty good sight magnification (x2.6-x8)" in the Pros section, added "A very good horizontal vertical targeting speed" in the Pros section

U38088265: /* Description */

2024-05-20T17:49:40Z

‎Description

U38088265: /* Ammunition */ Updated

2024-02-10T13:24:34Z

‎Ammunition: Updated

U38088265: /* Survivability and armour */

2024-02-08T10:06:30Z

‎Survivability and armour

U38088265: /* Survivability and armour */

2024-02-08T10:04:39Z

‎Survivability and armour

U28580205: Updated description to new format

2024-01-13T06:09:23Z

Updated description to new format

U69956970: /* General info */

2024-01-11T16:52:14Z

‎General info

U155767967: /* Description */

2023-11-01T00:44:12Z

‎Description

U28580205: Edited the text

2023-09-15T02:54:15Z

Edited the text

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 * Laser rangefinder
 * 5 second reload is faster than most competing tanks
-* A very good horizontal vertical targeting speed
+* Fast horizontal and vertical targeting speed
-* A pretty good sight magnification (x2.6-x8)
+* Reasonable sight magnification (x2.6-x8)
 '''Cons:'''

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 '''Armour type:'''
 * Aluminium alloy 7039
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 * Laser rangefinder
 * 5 second reload is faster than most competing tanks
 '''Cons:'''
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 * Low-calibre machine guns are of little use
 * Its 1st generation thermal sights are vastly inferior to those of other encountered vehicles, such as the [[T-72AV (TURMS-T)]]
 * Ammo rack is placed far into the back of the vehicle, being hit while on the move can prove accidentally fatal
 * Gun only reloads from ready rack, if the ready rack is empty gun cannot reload until a shell is loaded into the ready rack, thus making extended engagements difficult

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The usage of the [[M551]] Sheridan airborne/reconnaissance tank in combat in places like Vietnam enabled the United States to gather experience on what they like or didn't like about the lightweight armored vehicles in combat operations. This allowed the United States to establish the baseline requirements when opening the Armored Gun System (AGS) program to find a replacement to the M551 for their airborne forces. One contender in this contest was Teledyne Continental Motors (TCM), which produced their own AGS design in the early 1980s. Their design was submitted and was distinguished for its unmanned turret when compared to competitors like the [[CCVL]]. However, the CCVL ended up winning the AGS program and the TCM AGS design was not adopted. TCM continued to utilize their AGS design for export sales attempt after the program's conclusion.
+The usage of the [[M551]] Sheridan airborne/reconnaissance tank in combat in places like Vietnam enabled the United States to gather experience on what they liked or didn't like about lightweight armored vehicles in combat operations. This allowed the United States to establish the baseline requirements when opening the Armored Gun System (AGS) program to find a replacement to the M551 for their airborne forces. One contender in this contest was Teledyne Continental Motors (TCM), which produced their own AGS design in the early 1980s. Their design was submitted and was distinguished for its unmanned turret when compared to competitors like the [[CCVL]]. However, the CCVL ended up winning the AGS program and the TCM AGS design was not adopted. TCM continued to utilize their AGS design for export sales attempt after the program's conclusion.
 Introduced during [[Update "Winged Lions"]] as a reward for the [[wt:en/news/7469-event-operation-w-i-n-t-e-r-en|2021 Operation W.I.N.T.E.R.]] event, the AGS presents a unique platform for American operators with its unmanned turret on top. The sheer small size of the turret sticking on top of the hull makes this vehicle extremely survivable in a hull-down position as enemies would struggle to incapacitate the vehicle due to the tiny target the turret presents, and the right attack angle needed to damage the critical components and crew in the AGS hull. With a -10 degree gun depression, the AGS can be quite useful in hull-down positions against enemies as well. That said, if the AGS gets targeted by anything equipped with autocannons and above, they will quite easily shred it apart. So the AGS is best used once an ideal hull-down location can be found that hides the hull but exposes the turret, but don't plan to stay very long lest artillery or a bomb finds the AGS' position.

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 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 |-
-! colspan="5" | [[M68A1 (105 mm)|105 mm M68A1]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
+! colspan="5" | [[M68A1 (105 mm)|105 mm M68A1]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || Reloading rate (seconds)
 |-
 ! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
 ! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
-! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
+! Autoloader
 |-
 ! ''Arcade''
-| rowspan="2" | 30 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+16° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 38.1 || 52.7 || 64.0 || 70.8 || 75.3 || rowspan="2" | 5.00 || rowspan="2" | 5.00 || rowspan="2" | 5.00 || rowspan="2" | 5.00
+| rowspan="2" | 30 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+16° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 38.1 || 52.7 || 64.0 || 70.8 || 75.3 || rowspan="2" | 5.00
 |-
 ! ''Realistic''
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 ==== Ammunition ====
-{{:M68A1 (105 mm)/Ammunition|M456A2, M416, M393A2, M774, M735}}
+{{:M68A1 (105 mm)/Ammunition|M456A2, M416, M393A2, M774, M833}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
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 ! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
 |-
-| Coaxial || 3,000 (200) || 941 || N/A || N/A
+| Coaxial || 3,000 (200) || 941 || - || -
 |-
 |}

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 ! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 |-
-| Hull || 38.1 mm (25°) <br> 25.4 mm (82°) ''Upper glacis'' || 25.4 mm ''Top'' <br> 25.4 mm ''Bottom'' || 25.4 mm (11°) || 25.4 mm
+| Hull || 38.1 mm (25°) + 12.7 mm (59-77°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 25.4 mm (82°) ''Upper glacis'' || 25.4 mm ''Top'' <br> 25.4 mm ''Bottom'' || 25.4 mm (11°) || 25.4 mm
 |-
 | Turret || 25.4 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 25.4  mm || 25.4 mm || 25.4 mm

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 {{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
 <!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' -->
-''The Teledyne Light Tank is primarily made out of Aluminum Alloy 7039 all around. As this tank doesn't possess a turret, but an overhead autoloaded gun, it shares the same building material and armor values. The sides are covered by two sets of composite screens. However, it's important to note that TCM AGS is a light tank and its survivability is suboptimal.''
+The Teledyne Light Tank is primarily made out of Aluminium alloy 7039 all around. The sides are covered by two sets of composite screens. However, it's important to note that the TCM AGS is a light tank and its survivability is suboptimal.
-'''Armour type:''' <!-- The types of armour present on the vehicle and their general locations -->
+'''Armour type:'''
-<!-- Example: * Rolled homogeneous armour (Front, Side, Rear, Hull roof)
+* Aluminium alloy 7039
 {| class="wikitable"
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 ! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 |-
-| Hull || _38__ mm || ___ mm ''Top'' <br> ___ mm ''Bottom'' || ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
+| Hull || 38.1 mm (25°) <br> 25.4 mm (82°) ''Upper glacis'' || 25.4 mm ''Top'' <br> 25.4 mm ''Bottom'' || 25.4 mm (11°) || 25.4 mm
 |-
-| Turret || 25.4 mm ''Turret front'' <br> 25.4 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 25.4  mm || 25.4 mm || 25.4 mm
+| Turret || 25.4 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 25.4  mm || 25.4 mm || 25.4 mm
 |-
 |}

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 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-This tank is a flanker, first and foremost. Your gun is worse than the average in effectiveness, you only win fights if your enemy fails entirely, and you need weak spot hits to kill enemies frontally. Your best advantage is your turret, if you can find positions where the enemy can only hit your barrel, you become unkillable to APFSDS consistently, and enemies have to swap to high explosive ammunition or bring in close air support to remove you. Use the AGS's excellent mobility to get to key points or flank the enemy and try to get into hull-down areas, when attacking enemies keep in mind that you don't have that much armour and your low crew count will get you easily knocked out by a single shot. If you prefer flanking (in this vehicle you need to), hit the enemy with a side shot and move around them; if they have a pintle-mounted MG or autocannon, use side scraping so you don't get penetrated. If you get spotted, you have smoke grenades at your disposal: use them and pull back to allied tanks; if you must take an engagement, push an enemy moving towards your left, using your forward engine and transmission to potentially take hits for you, while also moving your driver out of harms way. You must also be greatly careful about ammo expenditure, if you are caught in a fight and spend your entire autoloader, you have to wait a substantially long time to get ammo back; you cannot reload if the autoloader is empty, and as such, if you empty it, you cannot fight back at all, and it is best then to disengage and bide time until your ammo is replenished.
+This tank is a flanker, first and foremost. Your gun is worse than the average in effectiveness, you only win fights if your enemy fails entirely, and you need weak spot hits to destroy enemies frontally. Your best advantage is your turret, if you can find positions where the enemy can only hit your barrel, enemies attacking you with APFSDS will be nearly unable to destroy you, and enemies have to swap to high explosive ammunition or bring in close air support to remove you.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 * Unmanned turret grants a better survivability when hull-down
 * Effective mobility
-* Decent gun depression
+* Good gun depression
 * Laser rangefinder
 * 5 second reload is faster than most competing tanks
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 * Little to no armour, with frontal weak spots
-* Gun is passable for the battle rating, needs to hit weak spots on most medium tanks it faces frontally, and can easily net poor damage results.
+* Gun, while passable, needs to hit weak spots on most medium tanks it faces frontally, and can easily net poor damage results.
 * Low-calibre machine guns are of little use
 * Its 1st generation thermal sights are vastly inferior to those of other encountered vehicles, such as the [[T-72AV (TURMS-T)]]
 * Low zoom optics make some long-range engagements difficult, if not impossible