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 == Description ==
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-In 1941, the Associated Equipment Company (AEC) created a chassis for an armoured car based on their Matador artillery tractor, drawing on experience gained while fighting Italian armoured cars in North Africa. The prototype was shown at the Cavalry Guard Parade and impressed Churchill, after which a contract was signed initially for 120 units, and ultimately 629 were produced between 1942 and 1943. They were used in battles in North Africa, sometimes alongside the Staghound. The main modifications to the vehicle used the QF 2-pounder, QF 6-pounder, and QF 75 mm guns. In 1944, a prototype SPAA on an AEC chassis was built using a [[Crusader AA Mk.II]] turret featuring two 20 mm Oerlikon automatic cannons. However, due to the Allies' widespread air superiority, it did not enter mass production.
+In 1941, the Associated Equipment Company (AEC) created a chassis for an armoured car based on their Matador artillery tractor, drawing on experience gained while fighting Italian armoured cars in North Africa. The prototype was shown at the Cavalry Guard Parade and impressed Churchill, after which a contract was signed initially for 120 units, and ultimately 629 were produced between 1942 and 1943. They were used in battles in North Africa, sometimes alongside the Staghound. The main modifications to the vehicle used the QF 2-pounder, QF 6-pounder, and QF 75 mm guns. In 1944, a prototype SPAA on an AEC chassis was built using a [[Crusader AA Mk II]] turret featuring two 20 mm Oerlikon automatic cannons. However, due to the Allies' widespread air superiority, it did not enter mass production.
 Introduced in [[Update 1.55 "Royal Armour"]] along with the initial British ground tree, the '''AEC AA''' is a fairly effective wheeled anti-aircraft gun with good protection. It packs quite the punch, able to be used effectively against both aircraft and light armour. Its armour provides decent protection even against heavy machine guns, while its wheeled chassis has mediocre cross-country ability but high speed, which can help avoid enemy attention if position changes are frequent enough.

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 == Description ==
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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} British Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft Gun {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.55 "Royal Armour"]] along with the rest of the British tree.
+In 1941, the Associated Equipment Company (AEC) created a chassis for an armoured car based on their Matador artillery tractor, drawing on experience gained while fighting Italian armoured cars in North Africa. The prototype was shown at the Cavalry Guard Parade and impressed Churchill, after which a contract was signed initially for 120 units, and ultimately 629 were produced between 1942 and 1943. They were used in battles in North Africa, sometimes alongside the Staghound. The main modifications to the vehicle used the QF 2-pounder, QF 6-pounder, and QF 75 mm guns. In 1944, a prototype SPAA on an AEC chassis was built using a [[Crusader AA Mk.II]] turret featuring two 20 mm Oerlikon automatic cannons. However, due to the Allies' widespread air superiority, it did not enter mass production.
-This is a low rank British AA car, which, while lacking armour, can pack quite the punch. It has two 20 mm autocannons on its turret, and good manoeuvrability and speed. Unlike the AA of many other countries at this rank, this is a closed top vehicle, and performs well in anti-tank roles.
+Introduced in [[Update 1.55 "Royal Armour"]] along with the initial British ground tree, the '''AEC AA''' is a fairly effective wheeled anti-aircraft gun with good protection. It packs quite the punch, able to be used effectively against both aircraft and light armour. Its armour provides decent protection even against heavy machine guns, while its wheeled chassis has mediocre cross-country ability but high speed, which can help avoid enemy attention if position changes are frequent enough.
 == General info ==

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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=uk_armored_car_mk_2_aa Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 == See also ==
-''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
+Vehicles with the same chassis:
-* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
+* [[Crusader AA Mk II]]
 == External links ==

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 * '''APT:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}} - These are purely AP belts that are not very useful with 42 mm of penetration. However, it is always a good idea to carry a few for self-defence- it can knockout lightly armoured vehicles.
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:Oerlikon Mk.II (20 mm)/Ammunition|HEF-I, AP-T, HEFI-T}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 * [[wt:en/devblog/current/854/|[Devblog] T17E2 and Armoured Car Mk II SPAA]]
-{{{{TankManufacturer AEC}}}}
+{{TankManufacturer AEC}}
 {{Britain anti-aircraft vehicles}}
 [[Category:Wheeled ground vehicles]]

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 The AEC AA can be used as a support tank in most battles and excels at ambushes. It works well at holding down a capture point, or setting traps along roads. It is advisable to always stay near allies so that you can receive help if necessary. If you choose to play the original role of anti-aircraft, make sure to stay in an open (but safe) area, allowing you full range of fire. Sometimes it is advisable to "harass" planes by giving scattered fire to make them think you are a light tank, and then pretending you don't notice them turning to attack you. Aim down the scope until they are within firing range, and shred them to pieces before they have time to react.
-Due to the heavy ammunition consumption as SPAA in AA fights, stay at an allied capture point to get free ammunition reload during battle.
+Due to the heavy ammunition consumption as SPAA in AA fights, stay at an allied capture point to get ammunition to reload during battle.
 When encountering an enemy that's armour can't be pierced, attempt to immobilise the vehicle by disabling the tracks. From here, multiple options are available for the {{PAGENAME}} depending on the foe. If the enemy has known weak spots, the {{PAGENAME}} could attempt to manoeuvre to a favourable position. If the enemy is known to be impervious to the {{PAGENAME}}'s armaments, simply keep them disabled (hit the gun barrel as well to increase the enemy's repair time), drop artillery, and withdraw to a safe position until a friendly with a bigger gun can handle the situation.
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 * Good turret armour
 * Fast turret rotation speed
-* 20 mm cannon velocity gives good anti-air capability
+* Good gun velocity gives good anti-air capability
 * Can decimate lightly armoured tank destroyers
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 ===Development===
-The basis of the armoured car comes from Associated Equipment Company (AEC) of Southall, Middlesex. AEC was a manufacturer of truck and bus chassis and the Matador artillery tractor. The armoured car was privately developed in 1941 and was based off the Matador. The design was shown to British officials in the same year during the Horse Guards Parade and was received favourably by many, including Winston Churchill. Orders started filing in for the armoured car, and AEC tried to give it comparable firepower to current tanks at the time. Thus, the first version, Mk.I, came with a turret adapted from the [[Valentine Mk I|Valentine tank]] equipped with the 2-pounder. The next version, Mk.II, had this upgraded with a heavier turret and a 6-pounder gun, then with the QF 75 mm gun on the Mk.III. An anti-aircraft version using the same turret from the [[Crusader AA Mk II]] and the twin Oerlikon guns was also developed onto the armoured car. During its production life from 1942 to 1943, 629 Armoured cars in total were built.
+The basis of the armoured car comes from the Associated Equipment Company (AEC) of Southall, Middlesex. AEC was a manufacturer of truck and bus chassis and the Matador artillery tractor. The armoured car was privately developed in 1941 and was based on the Matador. The design was shown to British officials in the same year during the Horse Guards Parade and was received favourably by many, including Winston Churchill. Orders started filing in for the armoured car, and AEC tried to give it comparable firepower to current tanks at the time. Thus, the first version, Mk.I, came with a turret adapted from the [[Valentine Mk I|Valentine tank]] equipped with the 2-pounder. The next version, Mk.II, had this upgraded with a heavier turret and a 6-pounder gun, then with the QF 75 mm gun on the Mk.III. An anti-aircraft version using the same turret from the [[Crusader AA Mk II]] and the twin Oerlikon guns were also developed for the armoured car. During its production life from 1942 to 1943, 629 Armoured cars in total were built.
 ===Combat usage===
-The Armoured cars equipped with the tank guns were used in North Africa in late 1942. Some on-field modifications include changing out the Valentine turret for a [[Crusader Mk III|Crusader]] turret with the 6-pounder. The armoured cars continued to see fighting in various parts of Europe in combination with other armoured cars and remained in service until replaced by the Alvis Saladin in 1958.
+The Armoured cars equipped with tank guns were used in North Africa in late 1942. Some on-field modifications include changing out the Valentine turret for a [[Crusader Mk III|Crusader]] turret with the 6-pounder. The armoured cars continued to see fighting in various parts of Europe in combination with other armoured cars and remained in service until replaced by the Alvis Saladin in 1958.
 Though the anti-aircraft version was made, it never entered production due to the growing Allied air superiority over the Axis forces, making the anti-aircraft version unnecessary to guard the advancing Allied units from air attacks.
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 * [[wt:en/devblog/current/854/|[Devblog] T17E2 and Armoured Car Mk II SPAA]]
 {{Britain anti-aircraft vehicles}}
 [[Category:Wheeled ground vehicles]]

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+|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
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 {| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
-! colspan="10" | Belt details
+! colspan="10" | Shell details
 |-
-! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Belt
+! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 ! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
 ! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
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-| rowspan="2" |HET
+| 20 mm HEF-I ||HEF-I || 838 || 0.12 || 0 || 0.1 || 6 || N/A || N/A || N/A
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-|HEF-I
+| 20 mm APT || AP-T || 830 || 0.14 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 47° || 60° || 65°
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-|APT
+| 20 mm HEFI-T || HEFI-T || 838 || 0.12 || 0 || 0.1 || 5 || 79° || 80° || 81°
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 == Media ==
-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
+<!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
 == See also ==
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 ==== Ammunition ====
 * '''Default:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}} - This belts carries an equal mixture of HEF-I and AP-T.
 * '''HET:''' {{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary}} - This is the belt you want to research first, since its rounds are the best against aircraft.
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 == See also ==
 ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 * ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
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 * ''encyclopedia page on the tank;''
 * ''other literature.'' -->
 * [[wt:en/devblog/current/854/|[Devblog] T17E2 and Armoured Car Mk II SPAA]]
 {{Britain anti-aircraft vehicles}}