A29B - Revision history

U140446642: Re-constructed a few of the poorly structured sentences.

2024-08-20T11:32:11Z

Re-constructed a few of the poorly structured sentences.

U140446642: Basically just a "bone apple tea" issue. Changed "force to be recognized" to "force to be reckoned with". I don't think a source is required for this, but have one, anyways: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/force-to-be-reckoned-with

2024-08-20T11:26:04Z

Basically just a "bone apple tea" issue. Changed "force to be recognized" to "force to be reckoned with". I don't think a source is required for this, but have one, anyways: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/force-to-be-reckoned-with

U38088265: /* Description */

2024-06-29T08:57:15Z

‎Description

U120313908: /* Description */ New Description Project

2024-06-27T04:01:22Z

‎Description: New Description Project

U141035397: /* Pros and cons */

2023-10-11T00:55:37Z

‎Pros and cons

U44629479: Edits

2023-10-01T11:34:11Z

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2023-01-14T12:41:45Z

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2023-01-14T12:33:29Z

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U105247809: /* Survivability and armour */

2022-03-30T14:43:20Z

‎Survivability and armour

U38088265: /* Engine performance */

2021-09-29T15:44:24Z

‎Engine performance

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-Born out of Sweden's need to catch up after WWII, the SAAB J29 emerged as a technological marvel. Designed in just a few years, it incorporated swept wings (acquired from German research) and a powerful British engine, becoming the first mass-produced jet fighter with this configuration in Europe. The A29B variant, essentially a J29B initially used for attack missions due to delays in a dedicated attack aircraft, played a key role in this early jet development story. The aircraft was also fitted with internal deflatable fuel tanks that give this fighter more flexible fuel options when compared to the [[J29A]].
+Born out of Sweden's need to catch up after WWII, the SAAB J29 emerged as a technological marvel. Designed in just a few years, it incorporated swept wings (acquired from German research) and a powerful British engine, becoming the first mass-produced jet fighter with this configuration in Europe. The A29B variant, essentially a J29 variant initially used for attack missions due to delays in a dedicated attack aircraft, played a key role in this early jet development story. The aircraft was also fitted with internal deflatable fuel tanks that give this fighter more flexible fuel options when compared to the [[J29A]].
-It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]]. The J29B is much like the J29A, but prepared for ground attack missions, the aircraft has identical armament except the addition of rockets (without ballistics computer), it is a force to be reckoned with in ground battles. Since it is a conversion of a fighter for ground attack missions, it has very capable flight performance without ordnance, a good strategy is dropping your rockets on easy targets and then changing your mission to air superiority, racking up points and helping your team against enemy CAS.
+It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]]. When it comes to armament, the A29B is identical to the J29A except for the addition of powerful rockets (without a ballistics computer), making it a force to be reckoned with in ground battles both in CAP and CAS applications. Since it is a conversion of a fighter for ground attack missions, it has very capable flight performance without ordnance. A good strategy to use in grounds battles would be launching your rockets on easy targets before quickly changing your focus to air superiority, racking up points and helping your team against enemy CAS.
 == General info ==

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 Born out of Sweden's need to catch up after WWII, the SAAB J29 emerged as a technological marvel. Designed in just a few years, it incorporated swept wings (acquired from German research) and a powerful British engine, becoming the first mass-produced jet fighter with this configuration in Europe. The A29B variant, essentially a J29B initially used for attack missions due to delays in a dedicated attack aircraft, played a key role in this early jet development story. The aircraft was also fitted with internal deflatable fuel tanks that give this fighter more flexible fuel options when compared to the [[J29A]].
-It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]]. The J29B is much like the J29A, but prepared for ground attack missions, the aircraft has identical armament except the addition of rockets (without ballistics computer), it is a force to be recognized in ground battles. Since it is a conversion of a fighter for ground attack missions, it has very capable flight performance without ordnance, a good strategy is dropping your rockets on easy targets and then changing your mission to air superiority, racking up points and helping your team against enemy CAS.
+It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]]. The J29B is much like the J29A, but prepared for ground attack missions, the aircraft has identical armament except the addition of rockets (without ballistics computer), it is a force to be reckoned with in ground battles. Since it is a conversion of a fighter for ground attack missions, it has very capable flight performance without ordnance, a good strategy is dropping your rockets on easy targets and then changing your mission to air superiority, racking up points and helping your team against enemy CAS.
 == General info ==

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 Born out of Sweden's need to catch up after WWII, the SAAB J29 emerged as a technological marvel. Designed in just a few years, it incorporated swept wings (acquired from German research) and a powerful British engine, becoming the first mass-produced jet fighter with this configuration in Europe. The A29B variant, essentially a J29B initially used for attack missions due to delays in a dedicated attack aircraft, played a key role in this early jet development story. The aircraft was also fitted with internal deflatable fuel tanks that give this fighter more flexible fuel options when compared to the [[J29A]].
-It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]]. The J29B is must like the J29A, but prepared for ground attack missions, the aircraft has an identical armament but with the addition of rockets (without ballistics computer), it is a force to be recognized in ground battles. Since it is a conversion of a fighter for ground attack missions, it has a very capable flight performance without ordinance, a good strategy is dropping your rockets on easy targets and then changing your mission to air superiority, racking up points and helping your team against enemy CAS.
+It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]]. The J29B is much like the J29A, but prepared for ground attack missions, the aircraft has identical armament except the addition of rockets (without ballistics computer), it is a force to be recognized in ground battles. Since it is a conversion of a fighter for ground attack missions, it has very capable flight performance without ordnance, a good strategy is dropping your rockets on easy targets and then changing your mission to air superiority, racking up points and helping your team against enemy CAS.
 == General info ==

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]].
+Born out of Sweden's need to catch up after WWII, the SAAB J29 emerged as a technological marvel. Designed in just a few years, it incorporated swept wings (acquired from German research) and a powerful British engine, becoming the first mass-produced jet fighter with this configuration in Europe. The A29B variant, essentially a J29B initially used for attack missions due to delays in a dedicated attack aircraft, played a key role in this early jet development story. The aircraft was also fitted with internal deflatable fuel tanks that give this fighter more flexible fuel options when compared to the [[J29A]].
-The {{PAGENAME}} was fitted with internal deflatable fuel tanks that give this fighter more flexible fuel options when compared to the [[J29A]], this variant also gets suspended armament in the form of unguided rockets
+It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]]. The J29B is must like the J29A, but prepared for ground attack missions, the aircraft has an identical armament but with the addition of rockets (without ballistics computer), it is a force to be recognized in ground battles. Since it is a conversion of a fighter for ground attack missions, it has a very capable flight performance without ordinance, a good strategy is dropping your rockets on easy targets and then changing your mission to air superiority, racking up points and helping your team against enemy CAS.
 == General info ==

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 * Powerful cannons with decent ammunition pool and access to very good AA belts.
 * Good ordnance selection for ground attack.
-* Effective airbrake and flaps.
+* Effective flaps.
 * Great turning ability at speed.
 * Good roll rate.
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 * Slow acceleration.
 * Slow climb rate.
 * Relatively large target in Ground Battles for SPAA.
 * Struggles to get off the runway with some loads.
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 ;Related development
 * [[SAAB 29 Tunnan (Family)]]
 ;Similar aircraft
 * [[F-84 (Family)]]
 * [[Me 262 A-1a]]

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 {{Specs-Card
 |code=saab_j29b
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 * [[Me 262 A-1a]]
 * [[Attacker FB 1]] / [[Attacker FB.2]]
-* [[J28B]]
+* [[A28B]]
 == External links ==

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 | about = Swedish jet fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
 | usage = other versions
-| link = J29 (Family)
+| link = SAAB 29 Tunnan (Family)
 }}
 {{Specs-Card
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 After correcting a few production errors the prototype would not only achieve the specified top speed of 1,000 km/h but it would even surpass it, achieving a sustainable speed of 1,060 km/h at one point. The design of the J29 showed a lot of promise for the future and talk of future variants would begin even before production had started. In fact, just a month after the prototype had taken to the air, there was talk of implementing attack-rockets and deflatable internal fuel tanks.
-Production of the first J29 variant, the J29A, would commence in 1950 and deliveries to the air force would start in early 1951. It was quickly realized that the internal fuel capacity of the J29A was too limited and work began on implementing the previously discussed internal deflatable fuel tanks. This would be realized in a new version of the J29, designated J29B, which entered production and service in 1953. The J29B's new internal fuel tanks gave it a 50% increase in fuel capacity compared to the J29A. The J29B would be followed by an unarmed reconnaissance version called the S29C which had been planned at an early stage. The S29C was to be followed by the [[J29D]], featuring increased armament and an afterburner, but due to a variety of reasons the J29D never entered production. Instead, a modified version of the J29B, called the J29E, would enter service. The E-variant featured a new dog toothed wing which increased maneuverability at high speeds. The J29E was soon followed by the [[J29F]] which was an upgrade-program for 210 J29B and E aircraft, increasing their performance and allowing them to serve throughout the 1960s.
+Production of the first J29 variant, the J29A, would commence in 1950 and deliveries to the air force would start in early 1951. It was quickly realized that the internal fuel capacity of the J29A was too limited and work began on implementing the previously discussed internal deflatable fuel tanks. This would be realized in a new version of the J29, designated J29B, which entered production and service in 1953. The J29B's new internal fuel tanks gave it a 50% increase in fuel capacity compared to the J29A. The J29B would be followed by an unarmed reconnaissance version called the S29C which had been planned at an early stage. The S29C was to be followed by the [[J29D]], featuring increased armament and an afterburner, but due to a variety of reasons the J29D never entered production. Instead, a modified version of the J29B, called the J29E, would enter service. The E-variant featured a new dog toothed wing which increased manoeuvrability at high speeds. The J29E was soon followed by the [[J29F]] which was an upgrade-program for 210 J29B and E aircraft, increasing their performance and allowing them to serve throughout the 1960s.
 All in all, 661 J29s would be produced for the Swedish Air Force, the largest production run by SAAB ever. The last of these would serve until the late 1970s.
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 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
-'''Comparable aircraft'''
+;Related development
 * [[F-84 (Family)]]
 * [[Me 262 A-1a]]

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 === Survivability and armour ===
 {{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
-<!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' -->
+<!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' -->[[File:A29B armour.png|thumb|Armour layout for the A29B]]
 ; Armour
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=saab_j29b Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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 '''Comparable aircraft'''
 * [[F-84 (Family)]]
 * [[Me 262 A-1a]]

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 |-
 ! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
-! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic Mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
+! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
 |-
 | colspan="2" | Svenska Flygmotor RM2 || 1
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 |-
 ! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
-! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br />Weight
+! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br>Weight
 |-
 ! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
-! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 35m fuel
+! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 33m fuel
 |-
-| 1,150 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
+| 1,150 kg || colspan="2" | Centrifugal-flow turbojet
-| 5,548 kg || 6,040 kg || 6,531 kg || 6,777 kg || 7,080 kg
+| 5,573 kg || 6,089 kg || 6,605 kg || 6,777 kg || 7,080 kg
 |-
-! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
+! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
 ! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
 |-
 ! Condition || 100% || WEP
-! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 35m fuel || MTOW
+! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 33m fuel || MTOW
 |-
 | ''Stationary'' || 2,150 kgf || N/A
-| 0.39 || 0.36 || 0.33 || 0.32 || 0.30
+| 0.39 || 0.35 || 0.33 || 0.32 || 0.30
 |-
-| ''Optimal'' || 2,150 kgf<br />(0 km/h) || N/A
+| ''Optimal'' || 2,150 kgf<br>(0 km/h) || N/A
-| 0.39 || 0.36 || 0.33 || 0.32 || 0.30
+| 0.39 || 0.35 || 0.33 || 0.32 || 0.30
 |-
 |}