75/34 M43 - Revision history

U54548726: /* History */

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‎History

U130924622: /* Pros and cons */

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‎Pros and cons

U38088265: /* Ammunition */ Converted to transclusion

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‎Ammunition: Converted to transclusion

U62038390: Added details about the spaced armor, which was previously unmentioned

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Added details about the spaced armor, which was previously unmentioned

U44629479: Edits

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Edits

U17577377 at 16:39, 22 December 2021

2021-12-22T16:39:29Z

U44629479: Edits

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Edits

U38088265: /* Ammunition */

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‎Ammunition

U38088265: Updated format

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Updated format

U38088265 at 11:25, 28 December 2020

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 ;Development
-After the Italian Armistice in 1943, the Germans took control of Northern Italy and restarted the production of the Semovente da 105/25. Lacking 105 mm guns, 53 units were produced with the 75/34 Mod. SF gun for the Wehrmacht in 1943-44.
+After the Italian Armistice in 1943, the Germans took control of Northern Italy and restarted the production of the Semovente da 105/25. The later Semovente da 75/46 on the same chassis appeared, with a better anti-tank gun and added armour. The new gun's production was extremely slow and 29 vehicles mounted instead the 75/34 Mod.SF gun, all served with the Wehrmacht.<ref>Atlante dei mezzi corazzati, I carri dell'Asse, Nicola Pignato, Ermanno Albertelli Editore, Italia, 1983, p 59.</ref>
 ;Combat usage
-These saw service with German forces in southern Europe in 1944.
+These saw service with German forces in southern Europe in 1944-1945.
 == Media ==

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 * As a casemate tank destroyer, the Semovente is extremely vulnerable to flanks
 * A cramped interior and only 3 crew lessens survivability
-* Inadequate gun for its tier
+* Inadequate gun for its BR
 == History ==

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 ==== Ammunition ====
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:Ansaldo 75 L/34 (75 mm)/Ammunition|Granata Perforante 75/32, EPS M42, Granata 75/32}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

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 * Mudguards are 4 mm thick.
-The {{PAGENAME}} has the same good protection as the 105/25 M43: thick vertical front armour plate, reinforced sides and a crew sitting apart in a widened hull. The {{PAGENAME}} also gets an additional 25 mm armour plate on the front and the sides of the casemate. However, the poor roof armour and a crew of only 3 are still weak points. Your front plate is also wide and easy to target.
+The {{PAGENAME}} has the same good protection as the 105/25 M43: thick vertical front armour plate, reinforced sides and a crew sitting apart in a widened hull. The {{PAGENAME}} also gets an additional 25 mm spaced armour plate on the front and the sides of the casemate, increasing the vehicle's protection against chemical rounds and bringing its frontal armour to 100 mm. However, the poor roof armour and a crew of only 3 are still weak points. Your front plate is also wide and easy to target.
 === Mobility ===
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 * Tank destroyers with long guns that can penetrate from long range like the [[M10 (Family)|M10]], the Marder III, the Sd.Kfz.234/4, the StuG III F, the SU-57B, the ASU-57, the YaG-10 (29-K), the Gun Carrier (3-in), the Archer, the Na-To, the 90/53 M41M or the Pvkv II.
-* Tanks with powerful HEAT shells like the M4A3 (105), the Pz.III N, the StuH 42 G, the 105/25 M43 or the Sav m/43 (1946),
+* Tanks with powerful HEAT shells like the M4A3 (105), the StuH 42 G, the 105/25 M43 or the Sav m/43 (1946),
 * Heavily armoured tanks that can shrug your shells off like the MK-II "Matilda" (USSR), the KV-1 (L-11), the Churchill I or the Matilda III,
 * Frontline tanks with sloped armour like the M4, the M4A1, the [[T-34 (Family)|T-34]], the Sherman II, the M4A4 or the ARL-44 (ACL-1),
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 * Avoid any frontal encounter. Flank it and aim for the sides of the casemate.
 * Wait for it to have shot and be reloading (it gives you at least 6 seconds to act).
-* If you're forced to engage the Semovente frontally, be as close as possible to increase your chances to penetrate.
+* If you're forced to engage the Semovente frontally, be as close as possible to increase your chances to penetrate. Additionally, if you're using HEAT rounds, unless you have 130+ mm of penetration, avoid shooting the main front plate as against chemical shells as it has 120-130 mm effective protection
 * If you can't disable it in one shot, immobilizing the {{PAGENAME}} buys you time to finish it off. Either shoot the transmission, the driver or the engine to do so. Stay out or get out of its line of fire once it is immobilized.
 * When flying an aircraft, target the crew compartment to knock the crew out or the engine bay to immobilize it.
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 ;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
 * [[105/25 M43]] / [[M43 "G.C.Leoncello"]]
 * [[75/46 M43]]
 ;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 * [[StuG III F]]
 * [[75/34 M42]]

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 {{Specs-Card
 |code=it_semovente_m43_75_34
-|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_75_34_M43.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
+|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_75_34_M43.jpg|ArtImage_75-34_M43.png}}
 }}

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 ;Skins
-* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=it_semovente_m43_75_34 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=it_semovente_m43_75_34 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 ;Videos
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 ;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
 * [[105/25 M43]] / [[M43 "G.C.Leoncello"]]
 * [[75/46 M43]]
 ;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 * [[StuG III F]]
 * [[75/34 M42]]
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 <!-- ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.'' -->
 * [[Wikipedia:Semovente_da_105/25#Semovente_M43_da_75/34|[Wikipedia] Semovente M43 da 75/34]]
 {{Italy tank destroyers}}

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 <!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->
-{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 263|rbMinHp= 164}}
+{{tankMobility|abMinHp=263|rbMinHp=164}}
 === Modifications and economy ===
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 |-
 ! ''Arcade''
-| rowspan="2" | 45 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+16° || rowspan="2" | ±18° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 12.3 || 17.1 ||20.7||22.9|| 24.4 || rowspan="2" | 7.80 || rowspan="2" |6.90|| rowspan="2" |6.36|| rowspan="2" | 6.00
+| rowspan="2" | 45 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+16° || rowspan="2" | ±18° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 12.3 || 17.1 || 20.7 || 22.9 || 24.4 || rowspan="2" | 7.80 || rowspan="2" | 6.90 || rowspan="2" | 6.36 || rowspan="2" | 6.00
 |-
 ! ''Realistic''
-| 8.3 || 9.8 ||11.9||13.2|| 14.0
+| 8.3 || 9.8 || 11.9 || 13.2 || 14.0
 |-
 |}
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 ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 ! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
-! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
+! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
 |-
 ! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 |-
 | Granata Perforante 75/32 || APCBC || 79 || 78 || 71 || 64 || 58 || 52
 |-
 | EPS M42 || HEAT || 100 || 100 || 100 || 100 || 100 || 100
 |-
 | Granata 75/32 || HE || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9
 |-
 |}
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 | Granata Perforante 75/32 || APCBC || 637 || 6.35 || 1.2 || 14 || 270 || 48° || 63° || 71°
 |-
-| EPS M42 || HEAT || 552 || 5.3 || 0.0 || 0.1 || 656.64 || 62° || 69° || 73°
+| EPS M42 || HEAT || 552 || 5.3 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 656.64 || 62° || 69° || 73°
 |-
-| Granata 75/32|| HE || 552 || 6.35 || 0.4 || 0.1 || 600 || 79° || 80° || 81°
+| Granata 75/32 || HE || 552 || 6.35 || 0 || 0.1 || 600 || 79° || 80° || 81°
 |-
 |}
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 == Usage in battles ==
-<!--''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''-->
+<!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
 ;Combat tactics
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 == History ==
-<!--Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.-->
+<!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
 {{main|105/25_M43#History|l1=History of the 105/25 M43}}
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 == See also ==
 ;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
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 == External links ==
-<!--''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
+<!-- ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''encyclopedia page on tank;''
-* ''other literature.''-->
+* ''other literature.'' -->
-* [[Wikipedia:Semovente_da_105/25#Semovente_M43_da_75/34|[Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Semovente M43 da 75/34]]
+* [[Wikipedia:Semovente_da_105/25#Semovente_M43_da_75/34|[Wikipedia] Semovente M43 da 75/34]]
 {{Italy tank destroyers}}

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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].
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 * If you can't disable it in one shot, immobilizing the {{PAGENAME}} buys you time to finish it off. Either shoot the transmission, the driver or the engine to do so. Stay out or get out of its line of fire once it is immobilized.
 * When flying an aircraft, target the crew compartment to knock the crew out or the engine bay to immobilize it.
 === Pros and cons ===