2S25M - Revision history

U38088265: /* Pros and cons */

2024-07-18T18:06:46Z

‎Pros and cons

U91965995: Removed redundant descriptions; added description for 3BM60 round's addition

2024-07-18T12:13:17Z

Removed redundant descriptions; added description for 3BM60 round's addition

U38088265: /* Machine guns */

2024-06-22T14:54:38Z

‎Machine guns

U44629479: Undo revision 181987 by U92188087 (talk)

2024-02-23T05:58:24Z

Undo revision 181987 by U92188087 (talk)

U92188087: /* History */

2024-02-23T05:33:41Z

‎History

U38088265: /* Armaments */

2024-02-03T10:44:12Z

‎Armaments

U44629479: Edits

2024-02-03T05:28:01Z

Edits

U44629479: /* Ammunition */ Edits

2024-02-03T05:22:02Z

‎Ammunition: Edits

U78016596: /* Ammunition */ Added 3BM60

2024-02-02T21:04:09Z

‎Ammunition: Added 3BM60

U7729542: /* Pros and cons */

2023-10-28T17:45:04Z

‎Pros and cons

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 * Autoloader allows consistent reload even with two crew members
 * Amphibious
-* Can use the 3BM60 APFSDS round, the best round in the tree at a BR of 10.0
+* Can use the excellent 3BM60 APFSDS round
 * The reverse speed is still notable, even if it is a downgrade from the [[2S25]] prior to it
 * Hydropneumatic suspension allows hull height adjustment, which can aid with defensive or offensive purposes

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 * Powerful gun
-* Good cross-country capabilities
+* Good mobility, including the ability to neutral steer
 * Autoloader allows consistent reload even with two crew members
 * Amphibious
-* Neutral steering, a rare capability among modern Russian vehicles
+* Can use the 3BM60 APFSDS round, the best round in the tree at a BR of 10.0
-* The reverse speed is still good for a top tier Russian vehicle even after downgrading from that of the 2S25, especially when compared to a T-80 or T-72 series of tanks and its upgraded variants
+* The reverse speed is still notable, even if it is a downgrade from the [[2S25]] prior to it
-* Hydropneumatic suspension allows some hull height adjustment, which can aid with defensive or offensive purposes
+* Hydropneumatic suspension allows hull height adjustment, which can aid with defensive or offensive purposes
 * Thermal vision for commander sights allows for more effective reconnaissance and targeting with a bit more height clearance
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 * Despite having an autoloader, the reload speed is decently long (7.1 seconds)
 * In terms of reversing capability, the 2S25M is a downgrade (20.4 km/h) compared to the 2S25 (70 km/h)
-* Losing the commander means the player will lose access to the commander sight and all of its benefits
+* The higher BR means advantages in mobility etc. may be less pronounced
 == History ==

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 {{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}
 <!-- ''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.'' -->
-{{main|PKT (7.62 mm)}}
+{{main|PKTM (7.62 mm)}}
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 |-
-! colspan="5" | [[PKT (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm PKT]]
+! colspan="5" | [[PKTM (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm PKTM]]
 |-
 ! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal

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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-simple it suck balls
+''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''
 == Media ==

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 == History ==
 <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
-''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''
+simple it suck balls
 == Media ==

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 === Survivability and armour ===
 {{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
-<!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' -->The 2S25M, also known as the Sprut-D, is a very capable vehicle which uses speed and agility over armour. The light armour of the Sprut tends to be a "high risk-high reward" armour as it is only able to stop small firearms but generate little to no fragmentation from the penetration of a solid shot. However, chemical energy weapons such as HEAT and ATGMs will generate more than enough spall to defeat the crew. Armour is not to be relied on whatsoever, even against artillery fragmentation. Due to the oblique angles the frontal plates have, it is able to ricochet enemy projectiles but this is highly unlikely. One of the biggest drawbacks of the Sprut-D are the side-mounted ammo racks. In case of a successful penetration, these will be the first to detonate. It is advised to remove this racks to increase survivability of the platform. As with previous Russian light armour, the best armour is to not be seen by the enemy.
+<!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' -->
 '''Armour type:'''
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 <!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->
-{{tankMobility|abMinHp=775|rbMinHp=442}}The Sprut-D leaves nothing to expect, high mobility and country-cross capabilities with a very powerful engine and reliable transmission. As seen in tanks based on the BMP-3 hull, the T/W ratio is impressive, giving a lightly-armoured vehicle a very high max speed as well as torque to advance even through the roughest of terrains. As its predecessor, it can reach speeds up to 70 km/h and 20 km/h on reverse with a gear change time from max forward drive to reverse in close to 5 seconds. It holds the ability to cross over water bodies, giving it an advantage in reaching positions no other vehicles are able to reach whatsoever. It has the ability to neutral steer, a feature not seen often in Russian vehicles.
+{{tankMobility|abMinHp=775|rbMinHp=442}}
 === Modifications and economy ===
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 {{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}
 <!-- ''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.'' -->
-{{main|2A75 (125 mm)}}The Sprut-D is armed with a 2A75 125 mm smoothbore cannon, a similar cannon in performance as the T series tanks capable of firing the same munitions. While it doesn't fire the 3BM60 'Svinets-2' as the T-80BVM or the T-72B3, it fires the 3BM60 "Svinets-2" which is a very capable round in game. While it stays short compared to other rounds seen at top-tier, at 10.0 it is the best round seen followed by the M900. This round is able to pierce through all the tanks seen in game with some exceptions as the Leopard 2PL/A5/A6 turrets or M1A1/A2 turrets.
+{{main|2A75 (125 mm)}}
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 |-
-! colspan="5" | [[2A75 (125 mm)|125 mm 2A75]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
+! colspan="5" | [[2A75 (125 mm)|125 mm 2A75]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || Reloading rate (seconds)
 |-
 ! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
 ! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
-! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
+! Autoloader
 |-
 ! ''Arcade''
-| rowspan="2" | 40 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 33.3 || 46.1 || 56.0 || 61.9 || 65.9 || rowspan="2" | 7.10 || rowspan="2" | 7.10 || rowspan="2" | 7.10 || rowspan="2" | 7.10
+| rowspan="2" | 40 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 33.3 || 46.1 || 56.0 || 61.9 || 65.9 || rowspan="2" | 7.10
 |-
 ! ''Realistic''
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 ! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
 |-
-| Coaxial || 2,000 (250) || 700 || N/A || N/A
+| Coaxial || 2,000 (250) || 700 || - || -
 |-
-| Pintle || 2,000 (250) || 700 || -8°/+50° || ±180°
+| Pintle || 2,000 (250) || 700 || -8°/+50° || ±120°
 |-
 |}
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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-The Sprut-D should be primarily used as a scout	 flanking vehicle due to its high speed, low profile, scouting capabilities and firepower. It holds primarily 3 uses:
+The Sprut-D should be primarily used as a scout flanking vehicle due to its high speed, low profile, scouting capabilities and firepower. It holds primarily 3 uses:
 '''Scouting:'''

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 The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Russian light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ground Breaking"]].
-The 2S25M "Sprut-SDM1" is a modernized development of the previous [[2S25]] Sprut-SD and the capstone to the Soviet amphibious tank line. Although the external appearance is very similar, it is based on a revised BMD-4M chassis with the same engine and transmission as the [[BMP-3]]. Compared to the original Sprut, the 2S25M loses a significant amount of reverse speed and a small amount of horsepower, although the overall mobility remains good. The improvements are in the fire-control system, which now features thermal sights for both the gunner and commander and thus fixes one of the 2S25's original flaws. It also now has access to the powerful 3BM46 APFSDS round used by the [[T-80U]] to better deal with contemporary tanks. Although the 2S25M has impressive offensive capabilities, it routinely faces modern MBTs such as the [[Leopard 2A4]] and [[M1 Abrams]] that lessen or negate its mobility advantage. Thus, its playstyle demands even more caution.
+The 2S25M "Sprut-SDM1" is a modernized development of the previous [[2S25]] Sprut-SD and the capstone to the Soviet amphibious tank line. Although the external appearance is very similar, it is based on a revised BMD-4M chassis with the same engine and transmission as the [[BMP-3]]. Compared to the original Sprut, the 2S25M loses a significant amount of reverse speed and a small amount of horsepower, although the overall mobility remains good. The improvements are in the fire-control system, which now features thermal sights for both the gunner and commander and thus fixes one of the 2S25's original flaws. It also now has access to the powerful 3BM60 APFSDS round to better deal with contemporary tanks. Although the 2S25M has impressive offensive capabilities, it routinely faces modern MBTs such as the [[Leopard 2A4]] and [[M1 Abrams]] that lessen or negate its mobility advantage. Thus, its playstyle demands even more caution.
 == General info ==
 === Survivability and armour ===
 {{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
-<!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' -->The 2S25M, also known as the Sprut-D, is a very capable vehicle which uses speed and agility over armor. The light armor of the Sprut tends to be a 'high risk-high reward' armor as it is only able to stop small firearms but generate little to no fragmentation from the penetration of a solid shot. However, chemical energy weapons such as HEAT and ATGMs will generate more than enough spall to defeat the crew. Armor is not to be relied on whatsoever, even against artillery fragmentation. Due to the oblique angles the frontal plates have, it is able to ricochet enemy projectiles but this is highly unlikely. One of the biggest drawbacks of the Sprut-D are the side-mounted ammo racks. In case of a successful penetration, these will be the first to detonate. It is advised to remove this racks to increase survivability of the platform. As with previous Russian light armor, the best armor is to not be seen by the enemy.
+<!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' -->The 2S25M, also known as the Sprut-D, is a very capable vehicle which uses speed and agility over armour. The light armour of the Sprut tends to be a "high risk-high reward" armour as it is only able to stop small firearms but generate little to no fragmentation from the penetration of a solid shot. However, chemical energy weapons such as HEAT and ATGMs will generate more than enough spall to defeat the crew. Armour is not to be relied on whatsoever, even against artillery fragmentation. Due to the oblique angles the frontal plates have, it is able to ricochet enemy projectiles but this is highly unlikely. One of the biggest drawbacks of the Sprut-D are the side-mounted ammo racks. In case of a successful penetration, these will be the first to detonate. It is advised to remove this racks to increase survivability of the platform. As with previous Russian light armour, the best armour is to not be seen by the enemy.
 '''Armour type:'''
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 <!-- ''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.'' -->
-{{tankMobility|abMinHp=775|rbMinHp=442}}The Sprut-D leaves nothing to expect, high mobility and country-cross capabilities with a very powerful engine and reliable transmission. As seen in tanks based on the BMP-3 hull, the T/W ratio is impressive, giving a lightly armored vehicle a very high max speed as well as torque to advance even through the roughest of terrains. As its predecessor, it can reach speeds up to 70 km/h and 20 km/h on reverse with a gear change time from max forward drive to reverse in close to 5 seconds. It holds the ability to cross over water bodies, giving it an advantage in reaching positions no other vehicles are able to reach whatsoever. It has the ability to neutral steer, a feature not seen often in Russian vehicles.
+{{tankMobility|abMinHp=775|rbMinHp=442}}The Sprut-D leaves nothing to expect, high mobility and country-cross capabilities with a very powerful engine and reliable transmission. As seen in tanks based on the BMP-3 hull, the T/W ratio is impressive, giving a lightly-armoured vehicle a very high max speed as well as torque to advance even through the roughest of terrains. As its predecessor, it can reach speeds up to 70 km/h and 20 km/h on reverse with a gear change time from max forward drive to reverse in close to 5 seconds. It holds the ability to cross over water bodies, giving it an advantage in reaching positions no other vehicles are able to reach whatsoever. It has the ability to neutral steer, a feature not seen often in Russian vehicles.
 === Modifications and economy ===
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 {{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}
 <!-- ''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.'' -->
-{{main|2A75 (125 mm)}}The Sprut-D is armed with a 2A75 125 mm smoothbore cannon, a similar cannon in performance as the T series tanks capable of firing the same munitions. While it doesn't fire the 3BM60 'Svinets-2' as the T-80BVM or the T-72B3, it fires the 3BM46 'Svinets-1' which is a very capable round in game. While it stays short compared to other rounds seen at top-tier, at 10.0 it is the best round seen followed by the M900. This round is able to pierce through all the tanks seen in game with some exceptions as the Leopard 2PL/A5/A6 turrets or M1A1/A2 turrets.
+{{main|2A75 (125 mm)}}The Sprut-D is armed with a 2A75 125 mm smoothbore cannon, a similar cannon in performance as the T series tanks capable of firing the same munitions. While it doesn't fire the 3BM60 'Svinets-2' as the T-80BVM or the T-72B3, it fires the 3BM60 "Svinets-2" which is a very capable round in game. While it stays short compared to other rounds seen at top-tier, at 10.0 it is the best round seen followed by the M900. This round is able to pierce through all the tanks seen in game with some exceptions as the Leopard 2PL/A5/A6 turrets or M1A1/A2 turrets.
 {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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 '''Sniping:'''
-The capable optics, in combination with laser range finder and thermal optics, it is able to detect, target and engage enemy vehicles at all ranges thanks to any of its projectiles. Be aware of your ammo as it can only carry 22 on the carousel which can be consumed very fast, so make all shots count. Unless the commander is certain it has not been detected, moving between positions is adviced to ensure survivability, especially when the player respawns as an aircraft and is aware of the {{PAGENAME}}'s position.
+The capable optics, in combination with laser range finder and thermal optics, it is able to detect, target and engage enemy vehicles at all ranges thanks to any of its projectiles. Be aware of your ammo as it can only carry 22 on the carousel which can be consumed very fast, so make all shots count. Unless the commander is certain it has not been detected, moving between positions is advised to ensure survivability, especially when the player respawns as an aircraft and is aware of the {{PAGENAME}}'s position.
 === Pros and cons ===
-<!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->'''Pros:'''
+<!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
 * Powerful gun
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 '''Cons:'''
-* Paper-thin armor
+* Paper-thin armour
 * Despite having an autoloader, the reload speed is decently long (7.1 seconds)
 * In terms of reversing capability, the 2S25M is a downgrade (20.4 km/h) compared to the 2S25 (70 km/h)
 * Losing the commander means the player will lose access to the commander sight and all of its benefits

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 ==== Ammunition ====
-{{:2A75 (125 mm)/Ammunition|3BK18M, 3OF26, 3BM42, 9M119, 3BM46, 3BM60}}
+{{:2A75 (125 mm)/Ammunition|3BK18M, 3OF26, 3BM42, 9M119M1, 3BM60}}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====