2A38 (30 mm) - Revision history

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== Description ==
''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Make an air or ground vehicles list on which this weapon is installed in our game.''

=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===

* {{Specs-Link|ussr_zprk_2s6}}

== General info ==
''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.''

=== Available shells ===
''Describe the shells that are available for the cannon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).''

=== Comparison with analogues ===
''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns, that have firepower equal to these type of weapons.''

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against the main opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.''

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.''

'''Pros:'''
*

'''Cons:'''
*

== History ==
''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of this weapon. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''

== Media ==
''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''encyclopedia page on weapon;''
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{{USSR anti-aircraft guns}}

[[Category:Anti-aircraft guns]]

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 == General info ==
 <!--''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.''-->
-Sharing a very similar look to the aerial [[GSh-23L (23 mm)|GSh-23L]] or [[GSh-30-2K (30 mm)|GSh-30-2]] cannons (which were both based on the Gast gun), the 2A38's 30x165 mm rounds can be sent up to 960 m/s with a rate of fire at a whopping 1,251 rounds per minute. It is a very potent close anti air option for when there is not enough time to lock the missiles. It can devastate any air unit, and heavly cripple ground units with ease as long as it hits, becuse of its large spread its unadvised to use it on longer ranges. It can be a effective tank killer but it needs a fast moving platform.
+Sharing a very similar look to the aerial [[GSh-23L (23 mm)|GSh-23L]] or [[GSh-30-2K (30 mm)|GSh-30-2]] cannons (which were both based on the Gast gun), the 2A38's 30x165 mm rounds can be sent up to 960 m/s with a rate of fire at a whopping 1,251 rounds per minute.
 === Available ammunition ===
 <!--''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).''-->
 * '''Default:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}
 * '''30 mm HE:''' {{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-T*|High-explosive fragmentation tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}
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 === Comparison with analogues ===
 <!--''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.''-->
 * [[M242 (25 mm)|M242]]- a 25 mm chain gun used in NATO countries, while it has a higher penetration with its APDS belt, the overall rate of fire is nowhere near 2A38.
 * [[PG87 (25 mm)|PG87]]- the Chinese 25 mm autocannon, having a faster muzzle velocity, and similar penetration, but slower rate of fire than 2A38.

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 == General info ==
 <!--''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.''-->
-Sharing a very similar look to the aerial [[GSh-23L (23 mm)|GSh-23L]] or [[GSh-30-2K (30 mm)|GSh-30-2]] cannons (which were both based on the Gast gun), the 2A38's 30x165 mm rounds can be sent up to 960 m/s with a rate of fire at a whopping 1,251 rounds per minute.
+Sharing a very similar look to the aerial [[GSh-23L (23 mm)|GSh-23L]] or [[GSh-30-2K (30 mm)|GSh-30-2]] cannons (which were both based on the Gast gun), the 2A38's 30x165 mm rounds can be sent up to 960 m/s with a rate of fire at a whopping 1,251 rounds per minute. It is a very potent close anti air option for when there is not enough time to lock the missiles. It can devastate any air unit, and heavly cripple ground units with ease as long as it hits, becuse of its large spread its unadvised to use it on longer ranges. It can be a effective tank killer but it needs a fast moving platform.
 === Available ammunition ===
 <!--''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).''-->
 * '''Default:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}
 * '''30 mm HE:''' {{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-T*|High-explosive fragmentation tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}
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 === Comparison with analogues ===
 <!--''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.''-->
 * [[M242 (25 mm)|M242]]- a 25 mm chain gun used in NATO countries, while it has a higher penetration with its APDS belt, the overall rate of fire is nowhere near 2A38.
 * [[PG87 (25 mm)|PG87]]- the Chinese 25 mm autocannon, having a faster muzzle velocity, and similar penetration, but slower rate of fire than 2A38.

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	== General info ==		== General info ==

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 * '''30 mm APT:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}
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+{{:{{PAGENAME}}/Ammunition|HEF-I*, AP-T, HEF-T*}}
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 ! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 |-
-| Default || 65 || 63 || 54 || 44 || 36 || 30
+| Default || 65 || 63 || 53 || 44 || 36 || 29
 |-
-| 30 mm HE || 65 || 63 || 54 || 44 || 36 || 30
+| 30 mm HE || 65 || 63 || 53 || 44 || 36 || 29
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-| 30 mm APT || 65 || 63 || 54 || 44 || 36 || 30
+| 30 mm APT || 65 || 63 || 53 || 44 || 36 || 29
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 == Description ==
 <!--''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.''-->
-The 2A38 is a twin-barrel autocannon manufactured by Tula Arms Plant.
+The 30 mm 2A38 is a twin-barrel autocannon manufactured by Tula Arms Plant.
 === Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
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 == General info ==
 <!--''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.''-->
-Sharing a very similar look to aerial [[GSh-23L (23 mm)|GSh-23L]] or [[GSh-30-2K (30 mm)|GSh-30-2]] (which are both Gast gun), this 30x165 mm can sent rounds at up to 960 m/s with a rate of fire at a whopping 1251 rpm.
+Sharing a very similar look to the aerial [[GSh-23L (23 mm)|GSh-23L]] or [[GSh-30-2K (30 mm)|GSh-30-2]] cannons (which were both based on the Gast gun), the 2A38's 30x165 mm rounds can be sent up to 960 m/s with a rate of fire at a whopping 1,251 rounds per minute.
 === Available ammunition ===
 <!--''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).''-->
-* '''Default:''' HEF-I* · AP-T
+* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}
-* '''30 mm HE:''' HEF-I* · HEF-T* · HEF-I* · AP-T
+* '''30 mm HE:''' {{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-T*|High-explosive fragmentation tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}
-* '''30 mm APT:''' AP-T · AP-T · AP-T · HEF-I*
+* '''30 mm APT:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}
-{| class="wikitable sortable"
+{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
-! colspan="7" |Penetration statistics
+! colspan="7" | Penetration statistics
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-! rowspan="2" |Belt
+! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Belt
-! colspan="6" |Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
+! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
 |-
-!10 m
+! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 |-
-|Default
+| Default || 65 || 63 || 54 || 44 || 36 || 30
 |-
-|30 mm HE
+| 30 mm HE || 65 || 63 || 54 || 44 || 36 || 30
-|65
+|-
-|63
+| 30 mm APT || 65 || 63 || 54 || 44 || 36 || 30
 |-
 |}
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 <!--''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.''-->
 * [[M242 (25 mm)|M242]]- a 25 mm chain gun used in NATO countries, while it has a higher penetration with its APDS belt, the overall rate of fire is nowhere near 2A38.
-* [[PG87 (25 mm)|PG87]]- the Chinese 25 mm autocannon, having a faster muzzle velocity, similar penetration while being slower than 2A38.
+* [[PG87 (25 mm)|PG87]]- the Chinese 25 mm autocannon, having a faster muzzle velocity, and similar penetration, but slower rate of fire than 2A38.
-* [[Oerlikon KDA (35 mm)|Oerlikon KDA]]- the 35 mm autocannon used by multiple nations, having a higher muzzle velocity and penetration up to 120 mm using APDS, while having slower rate of fire as well.
+* [[Oerlikon KDA (35 mm)|Oerlikon KDA]]- the 35 mm autocannon used by multiple nations, having a higher muzzle velocity and penetration up to 120 mm using APDS, while having slower rate of fire as well.
 == Usage in battles ==
 <!--''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.''-->
-A38 cannon serves one purpose well- destroying its enemies with its impressive rate of fire. Thanks to the Gast gun design which vastly improves its rate of fire over its predecessor [[AZP-23 (23 mm)|AZP-23]], 2A38 is also a twin-barrel gun as well. For aerial targets that travel too close to the 2S6 platform, it would be the bad news for them- a quick tap from the mouse can sent dozens of rounds upon the target, taking them down with ease but do keep in mind of its disperse (relative high due to the recoil); in case for ground suppression, thanks to its penetration, it can gun down most NATO tanks with ease from the sides, but beware for Merkavas that has impressive side protection.
+The 30 mm 2A38 cannon serves one purpose well- destroying its enemies with its impressive rate of fire. Thanks to the Gast gun design which vastly improves its rate of fire over its predecessor [[AZP-23 (23 mm)|AZP-23]], 2A38 is also a twin-barrel gun as well. The gun is bad news for any aerial targets that get too close to the 2S6 platform - a quick tap from the mouse can sent dozens of rounds upon the target, taking them down with ease. However, do keep in mind the dispersion (which is relatively high due to the recoil). In case of ground suppression, it can gun down most NATO tanks with ease from the sides, thanks to its penetration, but beware for Merkavas that have impressive side protection.
-Since the overall slower muzzle velocity and very high rate of fire, although it has 484 rounds per storage, only take down targets that are within 2 km; spraying them on aircrafts beyond that is simply waste of ammo.
+As the 2A38 has overall slower muzzle velocity, and very high rate of fire but only 484 rounds per barrel, it is advised to only target aircraft that are within 2 km; attempting to spray down enemies beyond that is simply a waste of ammo.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 * Very high rate of fire (only minigun is higher)
 * Destructive to targets at closer proximity
-* Sufficient penetration to gun down armored targets
+* Sufficient penetration to gun down armoured targets
 * Sufficient ammo pool per gun
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 == History ==
 <!--''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.''-->
-Although Karl Gast's design for a high rate of fire firearm was not adopted in the early days of its invention, this was then found as a viable choice to the Soviet Air Force and KBP factory for a design aside from rotary gun or revolver gun; the result is the Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-23 found on 1960s Soviet jets and then GSh-30-2 for attackers, where this design was proved reliable even without internal power to power the gun.
+Although Karl Gast's design for a high rate of fire firearm was not adopted in the early days of its invention, it was eventually found as a viable choice to the Soviet Air Force and KBP factory for a design aside from rotary gun or revolver gun; the result was the Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-23 found on 1960s Soviet jets and then GSh-30-2 for attackers, where this design proved reliable even without internal power to power the gun.
-Gast's design was also adopted for the Army in 1982, where KBP designed another 30 mm autocannon for their new SPAAG platform- the 2A38 on [[ZPRK 2S6]] "Tungska" as the replacement for the aging [[ZSU-23-4]].
+Gast's design was also adopted for the Army in 1982, where KBP designed another 30 mm autocannon for their new SPAAG platform- the 2A38 on [[ZPRK 2S6]] "Tunguska" as the replacement for the ageing [[ZSU-23-4]].
 == Media ==

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 == Description ==
-''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Make an air or ground vehicles list on which this weapon is installed in our game.''
+''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.''
 === Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 <!-- ''List out vehicles that are equipped with the weapon.'' -->
 * {{Specs-Link|ussr_zprk_2s6}}
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 ''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.''
-=== Available shells ===
+=== Available ammunition ===
-''Describe the shells that are available for the cannon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).''
+''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).''
 === Comparison with analogues ===
-''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns, that have firepower equal to these type of weapons.''
+''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.''
 == Usage in battles ==
-''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against the main opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.''
+''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.''
 === Pros and cons ===
-''Summarize and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.''
+''Summarise and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.''
 '''Pros:'''
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 == History ==
-''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of this weapon. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''
+''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.''
 == Media ==
-''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''
+''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
 == See also ==
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 ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
 * ''other literature.''