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User:U86428

2024-08-30T15:59:19Z

U86428: /* Adds new F-16C Block 40 Barak II in this custom tree */

== P-38 Family Tree ==

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==Hawker Hunter Family Tree==
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==F-16 Family Tree==
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User:U86428

2024-08-24T09:12:38Z

U86428: /* F-16 Family Tree */

== P-38 Family Tree ==

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==Hawker Hunter Family Tree==
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==F-16 Family Tree==
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Battle of the Atlantic

2024-08-24T09:05:30Z

U86428: USS Hoquiam, our Tacoma-class frigate, was ingame years prior to the event and was used for USS Tacoma with only a name change.

'''Battle of the Atlantic''' was an event for War Thunder's 11th Anniversary lasting from 3rd November until 13th November 2023. The event involved battles between Type VII submarine and [[He 111 H-6]], and [[USS Fletcher]] destroyer, [[USS Hoquiam|USS Tacoma]] frigate, and [[PBY-5 Catalina]].
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== Event introduction ==
{{main|wt:en/news/8568-event-battle-of-the-atlantic-ships-against-submarines-en|l1=[News<nowiki>]</nowiki> Battle of the Atlantic: Ships Against Submarines! }}
It’s currently the height of World War II. Battles are raging on all fronts, including the Atlantic Ocean, where the most critical supply routes cross.

Welcome to the Battle of the Atlantic event, which pits two teams of players against each other in asymmetrical ship and submarine combat!

=== Attacking ===
The attacking team uses the customized German Type VII Submarine, which is armed with 10 torpedoes in bow tubes, and 11 mines launched from stern torpedo tubes! In addition to this, two twin 20 mm cannons and one 37 mm cannon. Submarines are unreachable for depth charges and detection at great depths. On the surface, they’ll have great visibility range and can move faster, but here they’ll be highly vulnerable and easily detected by the enemy.

For a submarine to attack, it’ll need to be on the surface or at the depth of its periscope. Look for targets through binoculars or with the periscope and identify — keep your crosshairs on the ship, as this will allow you to calculate the lead for attack. You can also launch torpedoes, which is possible at a depth of up to 20 meters as well as contact mines down to a depth of 60 meters!

There are three types of views available for submarines. You can use the third-person camera at any depth, however it will not allow you to begin calculating torpedo fire. When you submerge to a depth of 7 meters, you’ll be able to raise the periscope and observe the surface through it. If a submarine is in motion and you have your periscope raised, it’ll be easier to spot due to foamy water forming. The periscope is not too high above the surface of the water, but is still safer than binoculars that can only be used on the surface. However, binoculars have the best zoom and highest vantage point, so choose wisely!

Remember to keep in mind the noise level emitted by your submarine! The higher the speed, the higher the noise level. A stationary submarine can only be detected when in close proximity, while a submarine at a depth below 60 meters cannot be detected at all!

Therefore when playing in your submarine, make sure to find the right balance between safety, speed and precision in attacks.

=== Defending ===
In this event, the convoy is defended by US ships, specifically the USS Tacoma frigate and the USS Fletcher destroyer. Both can respawn at dynamic points around the convoy cargo ships and use any method available — depth charges, guns, torpedoes and good old ramming speed to defend against the attacking wolfpack. Having accumulated the required amount of spawn points, defenders can fly out in an anti-submarine aircraft to help defeat submarines from the air too!

Defenders can detect enemy submarines both visually, for example at longer ranges if it’s on the surface, or if it has its periscope raised as well as with the help of special equipment. Using a hydrophone will allow you to obtain the bearing and approximate distance to a submarine based on sound, but not depth. The faster the enemy submarine’s speed is, the greater distance at which it can be detected. At a short distance around the ship, sonar works — it can detect a submarine at depths down to 60 meters and will show you its silhouette!

Good luck and have fun in this challenging naval battle!

== Controls ==
[[File:Battle of the Atlantic Controls.jpg|800px|thumb|center|Pre-set controls for the submarine]]

== Realism ==
Event has several interesting mechanics inspired by the real behaviour of the World War 2-era [[wikipedia:Battle of the Atlantic|Battle of the Atlantic]].
* [[wikipedia:Type VII submarine|Type VII]] was the most common type of the German submarine in World War 2, making it perfectly representative of the Battle of the Atlantic on the German side.
** Submarine seems to be a mix of various variants of the Type VII. For example, it has a declared maximum depth of VIIB, armament of VIIF or a maximum surface speed slightly higher than even the VIIC/42. Meanwhile the speed under water is 19 km/h, which is much higher than any of the Type VII variants (the fastest one being VIIA and VIIB, topping at 15 km/h, 20% lower).
** Much like in real life the noise submarine makes depends on the current speed of the submarine, but the game doesn't simulate noise of the engines or screws - it simplifies the noise to the one directly dependent on the current speed of the submarine.
** In the event submarine has a crush depth of 100 meters and start taking damage at 60 meters. In real life different variants of the Type VII had a maximum operating depth between 200 and 270 meters, with crush depth between 220 and 350 meters respectively.
** Similarly the number of torpedoes (10) and TMA-I mines (11) is smaller than on the Type VII submarines, where it typically was 14 torpedoes (11 in Type VIIA, 16 in VIIC/42) and usually 26 mines.
** [http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WTGER_WWII.php#53.3_cm_%2821%22%29_G7e_T2_and_T3 G7e] torpedoes have a several changes compared to their real-life counterparts:
*** Severely limited range, from 7 km late war and 5 km early war to 2 km in-game.
*** In real life these torpedoes were powered by a lead-acid batteries, thus they never left a trace of bubbles on a surface. Behaviour of the torpedoes in the event is much more similar to a wet-heater [[G7a (533 mm)|G7a]].
*** The moment torpedoes raise to the depth stroke of 1 meter they can instantly explode on target. In real life G7e torpedoes had a minimum arming distance of 250 meters. Similarly torpedoes will not bounce off the target, while in reality pistol needed to hit the target at an angle of no less than 20 degrees to fuse.
*** Torpedoes lack program steering, forcing submarine to turn in the exact desired heading, which is more typical to the World War 1-era torpedoes. During the World War 2 torpedoes like G7e could have their bearing set independently of the heading of the submarine. Torpedo would perform a desired turn immediately after the launch, allowing submarine to strike multiple targets without performing any maneuvers. In G7e this was called "LuT" (for ''Lageunabhängiger Torpedo'' - bearing independent torpedo) - an alternative program steering was FaT (''Flächenabsuchender Torpedo'' - area searching torpedo) which allowed torpedo to follow S-shaped pattern, circular pattern or zig-zag pattern, depending on a specific version used.
*** There is no option to set torpedo depth stroke, even though it could be set up to 15 meters deep.
* [[USS Fletcher]] in the event has Bomb mortar modification and additional shell types unlocked, but otherwise comes stock, without any of the mobility improvements unlocked
** In real life Fletcher used QC sonar, which could ping targets only in a 14 degree arc at a distance of up to 3.3 km in perfect conditions at 9 km/h speed - range dropped significantly with the speed of the vessel, something that isn't reproduced in the event. It also couldn't determine the submerged depth of the submarine or its shape.
* [[wikipedia:USS Tacoma (PF-3)|Tacoma]]-class frigate was introduced by the USA in 1943 specifically to counter the German U-boats attacking convoys, but USS Tacoma herself actually served during the World War 2 in Pacific, escorting vessels off Alaskan coast. USS Tacoma used the model of [[USS Hoquiam|USS Hoquiam (PF-5)]] during the event.
** It's unknown what exact type of the sonar did Tacoma used, but most likely it was the same QC sonar that Fletcher-class used. In game sonar of Tacoma has a higher ping frequency than the one of Fletcher.
* [[PBY-5 Catalina]] was most extensively used Anti-Submarine Warfare aircraft during the World War 2. Spotting was done purely by the visual means until the introduction of the ASV radar in 1940 which was mounted on top of fuselage just behind cockpit (as visible on {{Specs-Link|pby-5a_late_france}}) - this however allowed only for a detection of the surfaced submarines or a kiosk - submerged submarines and periscopes still had to be spotted visually. Airdropped sonobuoys were invented only after the end of the war.
** In-game submarines present shallow below the surface are additionally highlighted for all the vessels and aircraft, making them an easy targets for the bombs of Catalina.

[[Category:Events]]

User:U86428

2024-07-24T11:28:41Z

U86428: /* P-38 Family Tree */

== P-38 Family Tree ==

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==Hawker Hunter Family Tree==
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==F-16 Family Tree==
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== AIM-120 AMRAAM Capable Aircraft ==
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{{Tree-Line|}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:USA flag.png|70px|link=Category:USA ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Britain flag.png|70px|link=Category:Britain aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|10px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:China flag.png|70px|link=Category:China ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Italy flag.png|70px|link=Category:France aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|10px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Sweden flag.png|70px|link=Category:France aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|10px}}

{{Tree-Line|VIII Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_15_adf}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|tornado_f3}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_20_mlu}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_15_adf_italy}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|saab_ja37d}}
{{Tree-End}}

User:U86428

2024-07-21T13:36:41Z

U86428: /* F-16 Family Tree */

== P-38 Family Tree ==

{{Tree-Start|3|without header}}
{{Tree-Line|}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:USA flag.png|70px|link=Category:USA_aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:China flag.png|70px|link=Category:China_aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-Line|II Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|p-38e}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38g}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|yp-38}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38g_metal}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|

{{Tree-Line|IV Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|p-38j}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38l}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38j_marge}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38k}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|p-38l_1_china_rocaf}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-End}}

==Hawker Hunter Family Tree==
{{Tree-Start|3|without header}}
{{Tree-Line|}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Germany flag.png|70px|link=Category:Germany aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Britain flag.png|70px|link=Category:Britain aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:France flag.png|70px|link=Category:France aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Sweden flag.png|70px|link=Category:Sweden aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-Line|VI Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f58_switzerland}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f1}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f6}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f9_rhodesia}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f6_holland}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f50_sweden}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-End}}

==F-16 Family Tree==
{{Tree-Start|3|without header}}
{{Tree-Line|}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:USA flag.png|70px|link=Category:USA aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Japan flag.png|70px|link=Category:Japan aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:China flag.png|70px|link=Category:China aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Italy flag.png|70px|link=Category:Italy aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:France flag.png|70px|link=Category:France aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Israel flag.png|70px|link=Category:Israel aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-Line|VIII Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_10}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_15_adf}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|f_16c_block_50}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16aj}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_20_mlu}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_15_adf_italy}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_15_belgium}}
{{Tree-Unit|f_16am_block_15_mlu_belgium}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_10_iaf}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|f_16d_block_40_barak_2}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-End}}

== AIM-120 AMRAAM Capable Aircraft ==
{{Tree-Start|3|without header}}
{{Tree-Line|}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:USA flag.png|70px|link=Category:USA ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Britain flag.png|70px|link=Category:Britain aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|10px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:China flag.png|70px|link=Category:China ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Italy flag.png|70px|link=Category:France aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|10px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Sweden flag.png|70px|link=Category:France aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|10px}}

{{Tree-Line|VIII Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_15_adf}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|tornado_f3}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_20_mlu}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_15_adf_italy}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|saab_ja37d}}
{{Tree-End}}

User:U86428

2024-07-21T11:29:14Z

U86428: /* Hawker Hunter Family Tree */

== P-38 Family Tree ==

{{Tree-Start|3|without header}}
{{Tree-Line|}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:USA flag.png|70px|link=Category:USA_aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:China flag.png|70px|link=Category:China_aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-Line|II Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|p-38e}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38g}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|yp-38}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38g_metal}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|

{{Tree-Line|IV Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|p-38j}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38l}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38j_marge}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38k}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|p-38l_1_china_rocaf}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-End}}

==Hawker Hunter Family Tree==
{{Tree-Start|3|without header}}
{{Tree-Line|}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Germany flag.png|70px|link=Category:Germany aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Britain flag.png|70px|link=Category:Britain aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:France flag.png|70px|link=Category:France aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Sweden flag.png|70px|link=Category:Sweden aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-Line|VI Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f58_switzerland}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f1}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f6}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f9_rhodesia}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f6_holland}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f50_sweden}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-End}}

==F-16 Family Tree==
{{Tree-Start|3|without header}}
{{Tree-Line|}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:USA flag.png|70px|link=Category:USA ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Japan flag.png|70px|link=Category:Japan ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:China flag.png|70px|link=Category:China ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Italy flag.png|70px|link=Category:Italy ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Israel flag.png|70px|link=Category:Israel ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-Line|VIII Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_15_adf}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_10}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|

{{Tree-Unit|f_16aj}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|

{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_20_mlu}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|

{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_15_adf_italy}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|

{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_10_iaf}}

{{Tree-End}}

== AIM-120 AMRAAM Capable Aircraft ==
{{Tree-Start|3|without header}}
{{Tree-Line|}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:USA flag.png|70px|link=Category:USA ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Britain flag.png|70px|link=Category:Britain aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|10px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:China flag.png|70px|link=Category:China ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Italy flag.png|70px|link=Category:France aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|10px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Sweden flag.png|70px|link=Category:France aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|10px}}

{{Tree-Line|VIII Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_15_adf}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|tornado_f3}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_20_mlu}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_15_adf_italy}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|saab_ja37d}}
{{Tree-End}}

User:U86428

2024-07-20T05:36:14Z

U86428: /* P-38 Family Tree */

== P-38 Family Tree ==

{{Tree-Start|3|without header}}
{{Tree-Line|}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:USA flag.png|70px|link=Category:USA_aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:China flag.png|70px|link=Category:China_aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-Line|II Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|p-38e}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38g}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|yp-38}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38g_metal}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|

{{Tree-Line|IV Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|p-38j}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38l}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38j_marge}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38k}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|p-38l_1_china_rocaf}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-End}}

==Hawker Hunter Family Tree==
{{Tree-Start|3|without header}}
{{Tree-Line|}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Germany flag.png|70px|link=Category:Germany ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Britain flag.png|70px|link=Category:Britain ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Sweden flag.png|70px|link=Category:Britain ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-Line|V Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f9_rhodesia}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|

{{Tree-Line|VI Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f58_switzerland}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f1}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f6}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f50_sweden}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-End}}

==F-16 Family Tree==
{{Tree-Start|3|without header}}
{{Tree-Line|}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:USA flag.png|70px|link=Category:USA ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Japan flag.png|70px|link=Category:Japan ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:China flag.png|70px|link=Category:China ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Italy flag.png|70px|link=Category:Italy ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Israel flag.png|70px|link=Category:Israel ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-Line|VIII Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_15_adf}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_10}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|

{{Tree-Unit|f_16aj}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|

{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_20_mlu}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|

{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_15_adf_italy}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|

{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_10_iaf}}

{{Tree-End}}

== AIM-120 AMRAAM Capable Aircraft ==
{{Tree-Start|3|without header}}
{{Tree-Line|}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:USA flag.png|70px|link=Category:USA ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Britain flag.png|70px|link=Category:Britain aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|10px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:China flag.png|70px|link=Category:China ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Italy flag.png|70px|link=Category:France aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|10px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Sweden flag.png|70px|link=Category:France aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|10px}}

{{Tree-Line|VIII Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_15_adf}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|tornado_f3}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_20_mlu}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_15_adf_italy}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|saab_ja37d}}
{{Tree-End}}

User:U86428

2023-05-13T12:55:18Z

U86428: War Thunder aircraft ingame that already were AMRAAM capable in real life

== P-38 Family Tree ==

{{Tree-Start|3|without header}}
{{Tree-Line|}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:USA flag.png|70px|link=Category:USA ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:China flag.png|70px|link=Category:China ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-Line|II Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|p-38e}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38g}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|yp-38}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38g_metal}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|

{{Tree-Line|IV Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|p-38j}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38l}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38j_marge}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|p-38k}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|p-38l_1_china_rocaf}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-End}}

[[Category:Family pages]]

==Hawker Hunter Family Tree==
{{Tree-Start|3|without header}}
{{Tree-Line|}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Germany flag.png|70px|link=Category:Germany ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Britain flag.png|70px|link=Category:Britain ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Sweden flag.png|70px|link=Category:Britain ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-Line|V Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f9_rhodesia}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|

{{Tree-Line|VI Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f58_switzerland}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f1}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f6}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|hunter_f50_sweden}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-End}}

{{AirManufacturer Hawker}}
[[Category:Family pages]]

==F-16 Family Tree==
{{Tree-Start|3|without header}}
{{Tree-Line|}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:USA flag.png|70px|link=Category:USA ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Japan flag.png|70px|link=Category:Japan ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:China flag.png|70px|link=Category:China ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Italy flag.png|70px|link=Category:Italy ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Israel flag.png|70px|link=Category:Israel ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

{{Tree-Line|VIII Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_15_adf}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_10}}
{{Tree-Skip|5px}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|

{{Tree-Unit|f_16aj}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|

{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_20_mlu}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|

{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_15_adf_italy}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|

{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_10_iaf}}

{{Tree-End}}

== AIM-120 AMRAAM Capable Aircraft ==

{{Tree-Start|3|without header}}
{{Tree-Line|}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:USA flag.png|70px|link=Category:USA ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Britain flag.png|70px|link=Category:Britain aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|10px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:China flag.png|70px|link=Category:China ground vehicles]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|5px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Italy flag.png|70px|link=Category:France aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|10px}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|<center>[[File:Sweden flag.png|70px|link=Category:France aircraft]]</center>{{Tree-Skip|10px}}

{{Tree-Line|VIII Rank}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_15_adf}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|tornado_f3}}

|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_20_mlu}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|f_16a_block_15_adf_italy}}
|style="border-left: solid 1px #cccccc;"|
{{Tree-Unit|saab_ja37d}}

User:U86428

2023-05-04T18:33:17Z

U86428: P-38 and Hunter Trees

User:U86428

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Hunter (Family)

2023-04-20T14:15:39Z

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==Description==
The Hawker '''Hunter''' is a transonic British jet-powered fighter aircraft developed by Hawker Aircraft for the Royal Air Force (RAF) during the late 1940s and early 1950s.

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P-38 (Family)

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'''P-38''' ''Lightning'' may refer to:

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F-16 (Family)

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==Description==
The General Dynamics '''F-16 ''Fighting Falcon''''' is a single-engine multirole fighter aircraft originally developed by General Dynamics for the United States Air Force (USAF).

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==Vehicles List==
===Rank VIII===
* {{Specs-Link|f_16a_block_10}} - Block 10 variant with ground attack capability
* {{Specs-Link|f_16a_block_10_iaf}} - Israeli Block 10 variant with ground attack capability
* {{Specs-Link|f_16a_block_15_adf}} - Block 15 (Air Defense Fighter) of US Air National Guard
* {{Specs-Link|f_16a_block_15_adf_italy}} - Block 15 (Air Defense Fighter) of US Air National Guard leased to Italy
* {{Specs-Link|f_16a_block_20_mlu}} - Block 20 (Mid-life Update) dedicated to ROCAF with both aerial combat and ground attack capabilities
* {{Specs-Link|f_16aj}} - Export model planned for Japan but never acquired

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Ka-50

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced as a [[wt:en/news/6422-development-ka-50-black-shark-en|premium pack]] in [[Update 1.93 "Shark Attack"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Heli-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 1,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
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! Stock
| 299 || 268 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}}
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! Upgraded
| 320 || 310
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=== Survivability and armour ===
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Due to the low weight, this helicopter is fast and agile, and so it is easy to dodge even the missiles from ADATS or incoming fighters on head-on. Even in the case of damages, the twin rotor design can help keep control the damage even in cases where the tail is destroyed.
[[File:Armour of Ka-50.jpg|thumb|Image Black shark: Armour locations |right]]
Lots of sensors on the {{PAGENAME}} help establish situational awareness to keep an eye for threats. A radar warning receiver (RWR) will keep the {{PAGENAME}} informed of the presence (distance and direction) of active radars (enemies AA, jets with radar), also with sounds (beeping). A Missile Approach Warning system (MAW) will automatically deploy false targets - flares (128 pcs) and inform the Ka-50 pilots of incoming missiles (even in SB). In other environmental conditions, the Ka-50 also has a night vision device (only image an intensifier without thermal sight) to keep some form of visibility.

Distance is also the Ka-50's best friend, with an ATGM with active radius of 10km that will help keep the helicopter out of range of most AA, except ADATS and 2K22 Tunguska.

The crew has a highly armoured cockpit, as shown in image: Black shark: Armour locations

*Bullet proof glass covers only the front windscreen of the helicopter - 22 mm thick.
*Aluminium alloy covers the front, and sides of the helicopter located on each side of the cockpit - 20 mm thick.
*Aluminium alloy covers only the bottom of the self-sealing fuel tanks - 20 mm thick.

The helicopter has four separate fuel tanks, three at the rear of the fuselage and one just behind the cockpit. Engines are placed above the auto-cannon with the fuel tanks, spaced out around it.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
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=== Offensive armament ===
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{{main|2A42 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm 2A42 cannon, right fuselage-mounted (460 rpg)

The 30 mm 2A42 cannon can be equipped with mixed belt, belt for air targets or ground targets

* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}; max penetration: 62 mm at 100 metres
* '''Ground targets:''' {{Annotation|APDS|Armour-piercing discarding sabot}}{{-}}{{Annotation|APDS|Armour-piercing discarding sabot}}{{-}}{{Annotation|APDS|Armour-piercing discarding sabot}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|APDS|Armour-piercing discarding sabot}}; max penetration: 81 mm at 100 metres
* '''Air targets:''' {{Annotation|HEF-T*|High-explosive fragmentation tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}; max penetration: 3 mm at any distance

Due to the risk of flying directly over a battlefield, and that the Ka-50's optimal firing distance is from a long way from the enemy ground targets, the ''Ground targets'' belt for the 30 mm is not useful. As such, being equipped against air targets would be better; so pick ''Default'' or ''Air targets'' belt from personal preferences, but the Default belt will have some AP shells in case the opposing enemy aircraft is armoured.

=== Suspended armament ===
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{{main|OFAB-250sv (250 kg)|FAB-500M-54 (500 kg)}}
{{main|9K127 Vikhr|9M39 Igla|S-8KO|GSh-23L (23 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 80 x S-8KO rockets
* 4 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 1,000 total)
* 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons + 40 x S-8KO rockets
* 12 x 9K127 Vikhr missiles
* 12 x 9K127 Vikhr missiles + 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons
* 12 x 9K127 Vikhr missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets
* 4 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-54 bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 2 x 9M39 Igla missiles + 6 x 9K127 Vikhr missiles + 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons
* 2 x 9M39 Igla missiles + 6 x 9K127 Vikhr missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets

The Ka-50 equips these weapons by means of pylons, with 4 pylons total on the helicopter (2 on each wing). Each pylon holds one of the following:

* 6 x 9K127 Vikhr ATGMs (range: 10 km; TNT equivalent: 5.16 kg; max speed: 600 m/s) - A tandem warhead with 1,000 mm penetration of armour after ERA with proximity fuse. Can only be mounted on the outer pylons for 12 missiles maximum.
* 2 x 9M39 Igla air-to-air missiles (IR guided; lock-on range: 6 km in rear aspect, 4 km in all aspect; max speed: 1,000 m/s; max overload: 18 G; has {{Annotation|ECCM|Electronic Counter Counter Measure (missile is immune to interference from enemy Electronic Counter Measure (ECM))}}) - Mounted on outer pylons with 2 missiles each. Can currently only be equipped on 1 outer pylon, with the other having 6 x Vikhr ATGM.
* 20 x S-8KO unguided rockets (speed: 610 m/s; TNT equivalent: 1.32 kg; max armour penetration: 400 mm) - All four pylons can be equipped with rocket pods for a maximum of 80 rockets total.
* 1 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannon with 250 rounds each, can be equipped on all 4 pylons (1,000 ammo with 4 cannons in total)

=== Defensive systems ===

The Ka-50 has a MAW - Missile Approach Warning system and 128 Flares.

*128 Flares are installed on tips of the wings, in those two pods.
*The Missile Approach Warning (MAW) detects the incoming missile and notifies you about them as well deploying the flares automatically.

== Usage in battles ==

The most preferable play style for this helicopter should be firing ATGM from long range since Vikhr has the longest range in the game (10 km).

The only other 2 vehicles that has the shooting range of 10 km is the ADATS and 2K22 Tunguska. Since Tunguska in usually in your team (if not in a mixed battle), your only enemy is '''ADATS''' and/ or enemy planes.

'''Versus ADATS''' - From the beginning, try to keep the ADATS more than 10 km away from the Ka-50's position and focus on closer targets. For this, reach the battlefield at the middle (usually some point to capture is around 9.5 km from you). If the Ka-50 has already detected some ADATS within 10 km, be prepared with the fact that the ADATS also may know that the Ka-50 is there and may already be firing missiles. If an incoming missile is spotted, begin evasive maneuvers. To do this, turn-off hover mode and sharply turn the Ka-50 to one side (left or right) or do the barrel-roll. Never fire for at the ADATS after he fired first, his missiles are twice as fast as yours (1200 m/s vs 600 m/s). To eliminate the ADATS, lock-on target in gunner sight and fire. If you see incoming fire, switch to 3rd view/ pilot view and begin evasive maneuvers as mentioned above, but keep in mind that the target have to stay in your targeting view so your ATGM could hit the target while maneuvering.

'''Versus planes (jets)''' - On a head on, you can lock them and try to fire the Vikhr ATGM (it has proximity fuse) or lock them with Igla A2A (and fire only if distance is at least greater than 1 km). If they survived and approached their firing range, begin evasive maneuvers. Simply turn on one side (left or right) or do the barrel-roll. This is the only time you could use your right side mounted 30mm cannon, so use it and fire for enemy while maneuvering. If enemy passed you (and is still alive) turn around ASAP and lock him with your Igla A2A missiles and fire. In 99% of the cases, this should be enough to send any plane down.

If the is Ka-50 is not equipped with Igla missiles, just wait for the enemy pilot and repeat the process mentioned above until someone is shot down or have had the engagement broken off.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Has one of the best ATGM in the game (10 km range with 1000 mm penetration after ERA), able to fire after air targets with its proximity fuse.
* Fast and agile, maximum reached speed is around 330 km/h in level flight (with minimum fuel, payload of 6x Vikhr, 2x Igla and 2x Gsh-23-2 cannons in RB).
* Up to 12 9K127 Vikhr missiles which can be carried into combat, able to destroy a whole enemy team.
* The Ka-50's twin rotor concept can allow the helicopter to survive even after the tail is destroyed.

'''Cons:'''

* Limited choices of payload, compromises on ATGM and loadout payloads have to be made in order to use Igla air to air missiles.
* Absence of thermal sight can make enemy detection more difficult at lower altitude.
* Auto cannon is mounted on the right-hand side of the helicopter.
* Limited auto cannon firing arcs - Horizontal and Vertical angles.

== History ==


'''Development'''

The Ka-50 is the production name for the V-80Sh-1 prototype; production was authorized on 14 December 1987. The Western nations first saw reports of its development in 1984, and the first photograph was seen in 1989. The design went through testing from 1985 to 1986, and the pilot workload was found to be comparable to that of a fighter-bomber. As such, one pilot was sufficient for the operation of the helicopter, and space was only provided for one crew member.

Like other helicopters designed by Kamov, the Ka-50 utilized a coaxial fonts-rotating rotor system, allowing the regal of a tail rotor. The coaxial rotor system also increases manoeuvrability, allowing manoeuvres such as loops, rolls, and circle-strafing. The removal of the tail rotor allows more engine power to be focused towards the main rotors. Additionally, the lack of a tail rotor can, in certain scenarios, increase survivability.

The Ka-50 featured a K-37-800 pilot ejection system; it was one of the first production helicopters to utilize that feature, and even today it is one of the only helicopters to do so. Before the pilot rejects, the main rotors are blown off by an explosive charge along with the canopy. These measures allow higher pilot survivability if the helicopter is critically damaged.

The first batch of Ka-50 helicopters was ordered in 1990 after successful completion of testing and trials. It was first publicly called the Ka-52 in March 1992, at a symposium in the UK. It was first unveiled at the Mosaeroshow '92 at Zukovskiy in August 1992. The first international display was made at the Farnborough Air Show in September, where the second production unit was on display with a werewolf painted on the rudder - it was sometimes referred to as the "Werewolf" after that. The fifth production unit was used in the movie Black Shark, which is how the Ka-50 became known as the "Black Shark".

Field trials began in November 1993, when four helicopters were flown to the Army Aviation Combat Training Center. Authorization for the fielding of the Ka-50 was given by the President of the Russian Federation on 28 August 1995. Due to the fall of the Soviet Union, production was reduced to only a dozen Ka-50s instead of hundreds (it had previously been intended to replace the Mil Mi-24).

The NATO nations believed that a single-seat helicopter was impractical, and the first two Ka-50 prototypes had false windows painted on to give the allusion they were two-seat helicopters. This threw off some of the first western reports on the project; they believed that the new helicopter might even be designed to shoot down NATO helicopters. This was seen as logical because of the recent American J-CATCH program, which covered the tactics that should be used to shoot down an enemy helicopter. The misconception as to the Ka-50's role did not last long, but it through off NATO planners at first.

The Russian Military designated the Ka-50 as the main helicopter to provide support of special forces, while the Mi-28 replaced the Mi-24 as the main helicopter gunship in service. Production of the Ka-50 recommenced in 2006; in 2009 three Ka-50s were delivered that were built from incomplete airframes from the 1990's.

'''Design'''

The Ka-50 features a coaxial rotor design, and the rotors are made with polymers. Because of the coaxial rotor design no tail rotor is necessary, so it was excluded from the design. The powerplant features two Klimov VK-2500 engines; the Ka-50 has a high performance and manoeuvrability. It features an inertial navigation system (INS), an autopilot system, and a head-up display (HUD). A terrain-following radar is included, as is a Forward Looking Infrared (FLIR) device. Combat in both VFR and IFR conditions is allowed by the electronic radio and sighting-pilot-navigating system. These systems allow information such as enemy coordinates to be transmitted between helicopters and ground command systems.

A radar warning receiver, electronic warfare system, and chaff and flare dispensers with thirty-two 26 mm countermeasures each - located at the end of both wings - are fitted for the protection of the helicopter. The cockpit is armoured for protection against 12.7 mm (.50 cal) armour-piercing bullets and 23 mm projectile fragments. The rotors are designed to withstand several hits from ground-based automatic weapons. Additionally, there is protection for vital systems, and the fuselage and landing gear are designed to be crash absorbing. The two engines increase survivability as well, for if one is damaged the other can still provide power.

The Ka-50 is armed with one Shipunov 2A42 30 mm cannon, which can attain a fire rate of 200 to 800 rounds per minute with its dual feed ammunition system; 460 rounds are carried. The cannon is mounted on the starboard side of the fuselage, and its traverse is limited to slight elevation and azimuth adjustments. The semi-rigid mounting allows a greater accuracy than would a turret mount. A K-37-800 ejection system is provided for the pilot, allowing escape at any altitude and speed.

The suspended armament is carried on four hardpoints mounted on the wings. These mounts can carry fuel tanks or various armaments, and they can be tilted up to ten degrees downwards. Twelve laser-guided 9K121 Vikhr or 9M120 anti-tank guided missiles can be carried. These missiles are claimed to be almost jam-proof and have fire-and-forget capability, allowing the helicopter to take evasive action after launch. The Ka-50 can also be fitted with S-13, S-8 rockets, or UPK-23-250 gun pods.

'''Service'''

The first major usage of the Ka-50 was during the Second Chechen War. Two Is-50s arrived in December of 2000; a Ka-29 operated with the Ka-50s to provide reconnaissance and target designation. The first time the Ka-50 used its weapons in combat was on 6 January 2001. On 9 January, one Ka-50 accompanied by an Mi-24 used S-8 unguided rockets to destroy a Chechen insurgent warehouse near Komsomolskoye which was used to store ammunition. On 6 February, the two Ka-50s and the Ka-29 destroyed an insurgent camp south of Tsentoroj with the launch of two 9K121 Vikhr missiles; they were launched at a range of 3 kilometers. On 14 February, the helicopters carried out a similar mission near Oak-Yurt and Hatun. The group had located and destroyed eight targets, and these operations in mountainous terrain validated the Ka-50 design.

The Ka-50 was used by the Russian Military during many military exercises, including "Boundary 2004" in the Edelweiss mountain range of Kyrgyzstan during August 2004. During this exercise, the Ka-50 operated at high altitudes and warm air temperatures. One Ka-50 was used to provide cover for landing troops and used cannons and rockets against ground targets.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ka_50 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Images
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;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|1ELo-DevC-o|'''Should You Buy The Ka-50 "Black Shark"''' - ''Sako Sniper''|Xd9m6rPtN3U|'''The Shooting Range #172''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:32 discusses the Ka-50.}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[Ka-52]] - Another Soviet attack helicopter developed from the Ka-50.

;Other helicopters of similar configuration and role

* [[AH-64A]] and [[AH-64A Peten (USA)|AH-64A "Peten"]]
* [[AH-64DJP]]
* [[EC-665 Tiger HAP]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6422-development-ka-50-black-shark-en|[Devblog] Ka-50 “Black Shark”]]
* [[wikipedia:Kamov_Ka-50|[Wikipedia] Kamov Ka-50]]
* [https://www.army-technology.com/projects/ka50-black-shark/ <nowiki>[Army Technology]</nowiki> Ka-50 Black Shark (Hokum) Attack Helicopter]
* [http://www.military-today.com/helicopters/kamov_ka50_hokum.htm <nowiki>[Military Today]</nowiki> Kamov Ka-50]

{{AirManufacturer Kamov}}
{{USSR helicopters}}

User talk:U44629479

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== Talk page ==
Hello Colok76286, it will be better for people to use this talk page to contact you and post questions/information as all posts here are immediately viewable and do not require a moderator to approve the message which is necessary on the User page. You can use your user page to annotate areas you are working on (such as the torpedoes) and maybe provide status updates on what you are specifically working on (it's up to you it is your space to work with). Also, using the talk page alerts you when you log back in that someone has left a new message for you, whereas this does not happen with the User Page. Good luck working with the torpedoes, they do need a little love and there is a lot of good information out there about them. -[[User:U64962917|U64962917]] ([[User talk:U64962917|talk]]) 12:21, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

== Award Request images ==
Hello there!
First of all, thank you for all the edits you've been doing thus far on the Wiki.
I was looking through all the past edits in the last month, and noticed all the image work you and Jareel did. Given that many of the requested/missing award images are now up, do you still need the original award images?

Water multistrike--[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 07:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
: Hello, I don't need the pictures I uploaded anymore. You can totally delete them. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 11:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

== Tank mobility ==
Hi! Thank you for your hard work but I basically made all the edits you've done obsolete. The wiki has a database with the tank weights, max speed, and spaded engine horsepowers(you can see them in the sidebar) so I made a template that taps into that and generated everything aside from stock engine power and addon armor weight. If you want to switch to the template then use <nowiki>{{tankMobility|abMinHp= number|rbMinHp= number|}}</nowiki>--[[User:U30585107|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107|talk]]) 16:24, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
: That's even better. Thanks. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 21:07, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::I don't think anyone has done any major errorchecking on the numbers. So if it's just 1 off like for max speed, I'd give it a pass as a rounding issue. If it's more than that send a message to the wiki admins. In the mean time you can overwrite the numbers with the parameters shown here [[Template:TankMobility]]--[[User:U30585107|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107|talk]]) 15:49, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Wow, great job, congrats on finally managing to add the template to every single tank page! We really appreciate the work you've put in here! - [[User:U38088265|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265|talk]]) 11:10, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

:There is something weird going on with the tank mobility tables, as they seem to only have stock engine power now and last field says "division by 0". You might want to take a look at this? --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 06:25, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

== Forum profile ==
Hello Colok76286,

Could you please send/give me a link to your war thunder forum profile.

Kindest Regards
Wiki Team
--[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 01:05, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Please see your forum PM o7 --[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 23:04, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

== Indexing ==
Thanks for updating the information regarding the quotation/question mark issue. I did not realize the question marks caused problems with indexing, good to know, I learn something new every day! Thanks! --[[User:U64962917|U64962917]] ([[User talk:U64962917|talk]]) 21:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
: Yes, I tried searching for tables with missing values replaced by ?.??, ??.??, ??? or ???? but the Wiki search engine returned no results. On the other hand, when searching for missing values filled with _.__, __._, __.__, __. ___ or ____, the search results were correct. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 22:40, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
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{{Sp-end}}

== List of images for deletion/modification ==

=== Files for deletion ===
Files deleted --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 07:50, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Done --[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 10:16, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Next batch deleted. --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 12:34, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

== m60t sabra to m60(family) ==

i added sabra writing to m60(family) can you look what i have done? https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/506818-m60t-aka-sabra-mk-ii [[User:U73853576|U73853576]] ([[User talk:U73853576|talk]]) 09:38, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

== About References and sources; and user-created video guides. ==

Hey there, it has come to my attention that one of the many topics that need some polishing (or filling as we'd call it back in the day) is torpedoes in general: first off, standardizing sources to simply Wikipedia (nowadays it works just well enough!) or rather other kind of military sources? (for example and as many people do, simply source the references with Wikipedia's sources instead of citing Wikipedia itself as the source).
Second, I believe it would be a great addition but rather high-effort to make video demonstrations of torpedo launches on aircraft, but that would need streamlining for the how-to as well (with technicalities such as video format, size, duration, which aircraft to choose in regards to torpedo models that can be used by several different planes, etc etc.); but I would not simply go and do it before a good format to follow. I invite anyone who wants to discuss that matter to my talk page as well: but I hope it is a topic that wants to be discussed. Keep up the good work!
I personally will focus on British torpedo pages for now; simply because it's the nation I personally have the most fleshed out.
--[[User:U47850888|U47850888]] ([[User talk:U47850888|talk]]) 09:28, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

== Torpedoes ==
I will try and create a template for torpedo specs (Explosive mass, speed, etc), will post here for approval or modification (don't worry, I'm very used to waiting for mods to look onto templates) while I note down British torpedoes' stats ingame. --[[User:U47850888|U47850888]] ([[User talk:U47850888|talk]]) 10:06, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
: Templates for torpedoes already exist: [[WSP Table Templates#Ammunition]], see the table "Torpedo characteristics". Here is an example implemented: [[MTB-1 1 series#Additional armament]] --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 11:32, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

:: Thank you! I should've checked in first: then would be adding it to torpedo pages be okay (as I plan to)? Rather than it belonging only on the vehicle pages, it should be on the torpedo's page as well in my opinion, as for example, it is present on Naval vehicles, but isn't included for Air vehicles (In this case, the MTB-1 uses the [[18 inch Mark XII (450 mm)]] but the other users of the torpedo, such as the [[Beaufighter Mk VIc#Suspended Armament]]).

== Events ==
Thanks for your comprehensive events summary, it's ridiculous this is not official part of the wiki.
Since the content of your Summer event page has not been approved, could you please include the template here also? [[User:U105837429|U105837429]] ([[User talk:U105837429|talk]]) 10:45, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

== Regarding your recent reversion on "[[F-4C Phantom II]]" ==

You didn't state any reason for the reversion, so I was just looking to see why it was done so it might not happen again. Did you take issue with the performance facts I listed? From my use of the aircraft in game that is the reality of how it performs. If you have it unlocked you could try it out yourself in a test flight (or a match if you want to blow the lions), it really isn't able to climb to its listed altitude or achieve its max speed on arcade, realistic, or simulator.
--[[User:U4885444|U4885444]] ([[User talk:U4885444|talk]]) 04:17, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
:I asked for a 2nd opinion and most of your edits have been approved. Two points to keep in mind for future edits: 1) do not modify table templates and 2) if you find that a plane does not perform like it should historically, please file a bug report. Thank you, --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 11:20, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

== Removal of ammo rack information on the Ka-Chi ==

I noticed you removed the information I filled in on the ammo racks of the Ka-Chi, I'm new to the wiki and I was wondering why you did this. I got the information myself from in-game (although it crashed my computer after I got the numbers on the first one so I decided not to continue), and I'm very confident the information I added on them was correct. Thanks! --[[User:U55492223|U55492223]] ([[User talk:U55492223|talk]]) 14:13, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
:We don't accept partially filled tables for ammoracks, only fully filled tables. I filled the table and included your remarks. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 14:36, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
::Ah so that is why, thank you! Also I can't believe I didn't notice the ammo rack in the turret being empty when I was getting the information. Thanks again! --[[User:U55492223|U55492223]] ([[User talk:U55492223|talk]]) 19:21, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

== Undoing changes ==
Hi, I have made many changes for the better in the wiki, but they keep getting undone. I would like to know why.--[[User:U103089390|U103089390]] ([[User talk:U103089390|talk]]) 08:46, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
:Hello, please send one of the wiki team a PM on the war thunder forums or myself, we will happily explain but we will not disclose any moderation action on a public page. Have a great weekend! --[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 13:55, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

== Image source ==
Hello, Colok76286, sorry I did not get to you earlier. In regards to the question that you had asked me earlier regarding the two images I submitted for addition to the page on the 75 mm M6 cannon, I regret that I do not know where the images came from or what their copyright status is, as they were in a personal folder I had for images regarding the M24 Chaffee. I did a reverse search on the image of the cutaway of the M24 Chaffee's turret and came to this website http://www.m24chaffee.com/. I reverse-searched the other image and did not find anything. I understand the issues with using images with unknown copyright status in different countries and apologize for the inconvenience in dealing with my mistake. Regards, --[[User:U43191476|U43191476]] ([[User talk:U43191476|talk]]) 00:06, 02 October 2021 (UTC)

== Garage Image ==
Hello, dunno where to ask this, but I noticed the ZBD86 garage image is outdated (shows the old bmp1p mod), and I was going to replace it, but I didn't know if I'm supposed to use a stock image or a fully upgraded one as the model changes, can you clarify? Thanks. --[[User:U20043873|U20043873]] ([[User talk:U20043873|talk]]) 15:00, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
:Hi, you can add 2 garage images (1 stock and 1 with the upgrade) like vehicles with add-on armour ([[Magach 3 (USA)]] for example). --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 15:36, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

== Type 59 copyright status ==
As for your message about the picture posted on the Type 59's page, it's been on my computer for some time, the original image came from a Chinese article on the Type 59 in 2018 or so, I've never seen it before then. Here's the [https://wemp.app/posts/5ae81110-1ec4-4aad-8ae2-40324e270cee page] I found it on, as far back as I could find the image. Sorry for not responding on my page too, I'm not too familiar with using the Wiki beyond editing! --[[User:U37468494|OddPhenomena]]([[User_talk:U37468494|talk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

== Tooltips? ==
Hello, a bit of a weird question, but does WT wiki allow for the use of tooltips, and if so, how do I use them? --[[User:U20043873|U20043873]] ([[User talk:U20043873|talk]]) 21:27, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
:Have you tried [[:Template:Annotation]]? You can see them used in [[M16_MGMC#Ammunition|this page]], under the section Ammunition. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 22:05, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
::Ah, that's exactly what I'm looking for, thanks! --[[User:U20043873|U20043873]] ([[User talk:U20043873|talk]]) 22:16, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

== Type 16 revisions ==

Hello Colok76286, thanks for the revisions on the Type 16, one of the major ones was italicizing in the armor table, I was wondering how you managed to do that as I couldn't figure it out. Also, where did you find the 150 mm plate on the Type 16? I took a look around and couldn't find anything that thick on it using the armor tab in the hangar. Again thanks for the revisions and for any information you can provide. --[[User:U51714322|U51714322]] ([[User talk:U51714322|talk]]) 20:36, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
:If you edit with the Visual Editor, there is an option Italic in the toolbar. If you edit the source, you can create Italic with 2 apostrophe (<nowiki>''</nowiki>) markers at the beginning and the end of the section. For the 150 mm protection, it's the composite screen displayed in orange right under the 5 mm light green section. It is hidden between the 5 mm and the 35 mm sections and you can only display it from the side. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 20:55, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

::Thanks, I honestly don't think I ever would have found that plate, glad you knew about it and added it. --[[User:U51714322|U51714322]] ([[User talk:U51714322|talk]]) 23:20 20 November 2021 (UTC)

== P-51 Family page ==

So I edited the A-26 (Family) page because it was written and laid out really weirdly and rather unprofessionally, especially compared to the other vehicle family pages. I noticed the P-51 (Family) page was the same way, but right at the top there was a comment "Please do not change this page in anyway". So, are those pages protected or something, and I should've just kept them in their current condition? --[[User:U20043873|U20043873]] ([[User talk:U20043873|talk]]) 15:43, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

== Image source ==

https://warisboring.com/french-mirage-fighters-turned-israel-into-a-major-air-power/
If I cannot use the image then can you please show me where to find the copyright details? Thanks --[[User:U101799908|U101799908]] ([[User talk:U101799908|talk]]) 03:57, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

== Image source ==

Hi,
This is regarding the image copyright status on the image I uploaded earlier; https://wiki.warthunder.com/File:Israeli_Air_Force_Mirage_IIIC_departing_.jpg
this is the source from where I got the image from https://www.israeldefense.co.il/en/node/29878
If it is copyrighted, please inform me so you or I can do something about it...
Thanks -DaSovietMuffin

== A-7E FLIR Pod ==

Can you tell me why you removed my edit on the A-7E's loadout info? [[User:U86428|U86428]] ([[User talk:U86428|talk]]) 09:31, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

User talk:U44629479

2021-12-31T09:31:35Z

U86428: /* A-7E FLIR Pod */ new section

A-7E

2021-12-28T16:36:47Z

U86428: /* Added missing AN/AAR-45 LANA FLIR pod in the loadouts */

{{About
|about= American strike aircraft '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
|usage= the other version
|link=A-7D
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=a_7e
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ground Breaking"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 1,114 || 1,108 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 35.4 || 37.0 || 42.1 || 41.7 || rowspan="2" | 1,000
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 484 || 457 || 406 || ~10 || ~4
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 700 || < 690 || < 500 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="6" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | Allison TF-41-A-2 || 1
| colspan="3" | 9,106 kg || colspan="3" | 392 kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="5" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 15m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 45m fuel || 53m fuel
|-
| 1,592 kg || colspan="2" | Low-bypass turbofan
| 10,472 kg || 10,820 kg || 11,678 kg || 12,963 kg || 13,658 kg || 19,051 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="6" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 15m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 45m fuel || 53m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 4,741 kgf || N/A
| 0.45 || 0.44 || 0.41 || 0.37 || 0.35 || 0.25
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 6,378 kgf (200 km/h) || N/A
| 0.61 || 0.59 || 0.55 || 0.49 || 0.47 || 0.33
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|M61 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon, chin-mounted (1,000 rpg)
** 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 120 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|LDGP Mk 81 (250 lb)|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)}}
{{main|AGM-62A Walleye I ER (510 kg)|AIM-9D Sidewinder|AIM-9G Sidewinder}}
{{main|FFAR Mighty Mouse|Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP|GAU-13/A (30 mm)|M61 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total)
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 30 mm GAU-13/A cannons (353 rpg = 706 total)
* 2 x 30 mm GAU-13/A cannons (353 rpg = 706 total) + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 30 mm GAU-13/A cannons (353 rpg = 706 total) + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 24 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs (6,000 lb total)
* 24 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 24 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 24 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs + AN/AAR-45 LANA FLIR pod (6,000 lb total)
* 24 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (12,000 lb total)
* 24 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (12,000 lb total)
* 24 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (12,000 lb total)
* 24 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + AN/AAR-45 LANA FLIR pod (12,000 lb total)
* 12 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (12,000 lb total)
* 12 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (12,000 lb total)
* 12 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (12,000 lb total)
* 12 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + AN/AAR-45 LANA FLIR pod (12,000 lb total)
* 6 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (12,000 lb total)
* 6 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (12,000 lb total)
* 6 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (12,000 lb total)
* 5 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + AN/AAR-45 LANA FLIR pod (10,000 lb total)
* 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (10,500 lb total)
* 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total)
* 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total)
* 12 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + AN/AAR-45 LANA FLIR pod (9,000 lb total)
* 228 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 228 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 228 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 64 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
* 64 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 64 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 6 x 510 kg AGM-62A Walleye I ER bombs (3,060 kg total)
* 6 x 510 kg AGM-62A Walleye I ER bombs + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (3,060 kg total)
* 5 x 510 kg AGM-62A Walleye I ER bombs + AN/AAR-45 LANA FLIR pod + 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles (2,550 kg total)
* 6 x 510 kg AGM-62A Walleye I ER bombs + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (3,060 kg total)
* 5 x 510 kg AGM-62A Walleye I ER bombs + AN/AAR-45 LANA FLIR pod + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles (2,550 kg total)
* 5 x 510 kg AGM-62A Walleye I ER bombs + AN/AAR-45 LANA FLIR pod (2,550 kg total)

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===

''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''

'''Pros:'''
*

'''Cons:'''
*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==


;Skins
* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=a_7e Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|OuL1L0FhblE|'''The Shooting Range #277''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:29 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{AirManufacturer Vought}}
{{USA jet aircraft}}

Phantom FG.1

2021-12-25T22:04:14Z

U86428: /* F-4K text bold, as to be in-line with the same paragraph on the Phantom FG.1 */

{{About
| about = jet fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = F-4 Phantom II (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=f-4k
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''', otherwise known as the '''F-4K''', is a rank {{Specs|rank}} British jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]]. Like the other British Spey Phantom, the [[Phantom FGR.2]], this Phantom comes with AIM-9Ds, stock RHAW, and two turbofan engines that differentiate it from other [[F-4 Phantom II (Family)|Phantoms]] in the game. This Phantom is the naval variant of the British Phantom FGR.2, and as such has several adaptations for use on the smaller flight decks of British Carriers, including a longer nose wheel, slotted elevators like on the [[F-4E]], larger leading-edge flaps, a tougher undercarriage, Spey 203s with a quicker Afterburner activation time, and a slew of other upgrades that are not modeled in War Thunder, such as a folding nose radome, drooping ailerons to aid in lift, and a different radar to the FGR.2 (AN/AWG-11 as opposed to the AN/AWG-12 in the FGR, and the AN/AWG-10 in the base F-4J model). The FG.1 takes off a good deal faster than the FGR.2 thanks to the more rapid gain of afterburner thrust, higher angle of attack possible due to the extended nose wheel, and the larger flaps.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,667 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 2,190 || 2,160 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 26.5 || 26.7 || 176.2 || 165.5 || rowspan="2" | 850
|-
! Upgraded
| 2,355 || 2,268 || 25.5 || 26.0 || 246.6 || 210.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| X || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || 584 || 463 || ~11 || ~4
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 810 || < 750 || < 700 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | Rolls-Royce Spey 203 || 2
| colspan="2" | 13,705 kg || colspan="3" | 397 kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 33m fuel
|-
| 1,860 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning low-bypass turbofan
| 15,457 kg || 17,177 kg || 18,913 kg || 19,545 kg || 25,400 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 33m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 5,110 kgf || 9,014 kgf
| 1.17 || 1.05 || 0.95 || 0.92 || 0.71
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 5,110 kgf (0 km/h) || 10,311 kgf (1,200 km/h)
| 1.33 || 1.20 || 1.09 || 1.06 || 0.81
|-
|}
The radiator can be manually controlled for increased time with afterburner without the engines overheating.

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


The Phantom FG.1 has no armour protection, the fuel tanks are self-sealing. The crew members are located towards the front of the fuselage, and all the important modules (engines, fuel tanks) are located in the rear of the fuselage. There are also fuel tanks in the wings. These factors make the pilots well protected from the rear, but vulnerable to the front, whereas all important modules are extremely vulnerable from the rear.

* No armour protection
* Self-sealing fuel tanks

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

"Flares" should be one of your top priorities, as well as the "1000 LB GP" upgrade. These give you a fighting chance against your missile-armed opponents, and the bombs provide a relatively reliable source of RP {{rp}} as you work towards better equipping the aircraft for dogfights later down the line. "Compressor" and "Engine" provide the single largest addition to performance, far more than any of the other upgrades, and should be prioritised. The Airframe and Cover are not priorities, but New Boosters help immensely with taking on trickier opponents. The "Offensive 20mm" and "New 20mm cannon" upgrades are not priorities, as the M61 is more accurate than one would think, and with a cyclic fire rate of 6,000 rounds per minute, belt composition simply does not matter.

== Armaments ==
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! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** Without offensive armament
** 90 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|G.P. Mk.I (1,000 lb)|SNEB type 23|M61 (20 mm)}}
{{main|AIM-7E Sparrow|AIM-9D Sidewinder|AIM-9G Sidewinder|Skyflash}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon, belly-mounted (gunpod) (1,200 rpg)
* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 8 x 1,000 lb G.P. Mk.I bombs (8,000 lb total)
* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 108 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles + 4 x 1,000 lb G.P. Mk.I bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 4 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 4 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles + 4 x 1,000 lb G.P. Mk.I bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 4 x 1,000 lb G.P. Mk.I bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 108 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles + 4 x 1,000 lb G.P. Mk.I bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 4 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 4 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles + 4 x 1,000 lb G.P. Mk.I bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 4 x AIM-7E Sparrow missiles + 4 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 4 x Skyflash missiles + 4 x 1,000 lb G.P. Mk.I bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 4 x Skyflash missiles + 108 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 4 x Skyflash missiles + 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 4 x Skyflash missiles + 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles + 4 x 1,000 lb G.P. Mk.I bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 4 x Skyflash missiles + 4 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 4 x Skyflash missiles + 4 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon + 4 x Skyflash missiles + 4 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles + 4 x 1,000 lb G.P. Mk.I bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 4 x Skyflash missiles + 4 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles

== Usage in battles ==
[[File:PHANTOM FG 1 COOL.png|thumb|A Phantom FG.1 of 111 Squadron, or "Treble One", patrolling over the North Atlantic.]]

[[File:PHANTOM FG 1 COOL 5.png|thumb|533x533px|An [[F-4M|F-4M/FGR.2]] (front) and F-4K/FG.1 (back), both in the post-1983 RAF Medium Sea Grey camouflage scheme, flying above a Norwegian Fjord. While outwardly similar, the two Spey Phantoms perform slightly differently.]]
The F-4K/Phantom FG.1 is the ultimate energy fighter- its advantages over other aircraft are sheer power, roll rate, its ability to climb to high altitudes, and its nearly unparalleled speed and thrust-to-weight ratio down low are only rivaled by the MiG-21SMT. The twin Rolls-Royce Spey 203 engines produce just over 9,000 kgf thrust when you are stationary- that is to say, on the runway- and over 10,000 kgf when you're travelling at near-supersonic speeds.

Side-climb high- around 8,000-9,000 m will do- and attack those beneath you. The Phantom's fantastic climb rate, as well as the FG.1's faster acceleration to maximum speed thanany other F-4, including the FGR.2, gives it an excellent climb advantage over any and all opposition up to around 5,000 m (16,500 ft), and with side-climbing can easily manage to get to 10,000 m (33,000 ft) before anybody else can, save for F-4E's. It must be noted however that the Phantom's high-altitude controllability is not very good, and the aircraft flies like a brick above 7,500 m (24,000 ft).

Unlike other F-4s, British Phantoms have stock RWR in the odd square section mounted on top of the tail. This gives the F-4K an additional advantage in combat, as unlike other phantoms, it can from the outset detect enemy radar impulses and thus at least know the direction of enemy aircraft, as well as the likelihood that they have been detected on an enemy's radar. This RWR can also differentiate between simple radar pings and a radar lock, which is invaluable in deciding whether one needs to start evasive manoeuvres to try break the lock or whether it is simply a sign of a distant enemy contact.

The Ferranti AN/AWG-11 Radar can scan up to 370 km away in a 120 degree arc, but generally you should keep the radar scanning in a 120 degree search pattern for targets at 18.5 km away from you. The radar also has an Air Combat Mode, or ACM mode, that shortens the radar search to an 11-by-11 degree search pattern with a maximum range of 9.25 km. In this mode, it will lock on the first target that it manages to detect and will not stop tracking nor switch to another target until the lock is lost. While unlike other aircraft it does not give you a lead indicator, it is a useful tool for detecting and tracking targets that are not visible due to cloud, distance, or other such factors.

The AIM-9Ds do excellently when launched from 2.3-5.5 km (1.5-2.5 miles) away, but not up close. They are superior to the AIM-9E, with 16 Gees of maximum overload as opposed to 10 Gees, but they are still inferior to the [[R-60|R-60/AA-8 Aphid]] (30G) and the [[AIM-9J Sidewinder|AIM-9J]] (20G). However, it is of note that the AIM-9D's seeker head is able to lock on and maintain a lock at much longer distances than either missile. It is possible to kill aircraft from 8-10 km away given the right conditions and a bit of luck.

Any British Phantom should not be taken close to the beginning furball. All mentioned facts combined give the image of a long-range missile-hauler with a licence to kill from long range given by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II herself. This is indeed the case. British Phantoms perform admirably in a support role in a furball, killing tailsitting MiGs, Mirages and Phantoms, as well as taking out enemy aircraft who go high to try to attack aircraft with an energy advantage, and enemy aircraft extending away from the furball to make another pass. [[File:Phantom FG1 SC1.png|thumb|Phantom FG.1 over El Alamein]]

This, however, does not mean that the Phantom FG.1 cannot handle itself in a dogfight. The FG.1 is more than capable of engaging aircraft up close (between 0-1.5 km away), with a powerful M61 Vulcan. You can easily kill aircraft in a head-on, but that doesn't mean that you should commit and stay there! Always break off if you see enemy tracer, or at the very least when the enemy aircraft is 1 km away, lest you would like your own example of the World's Best Distributor of MiG Parts spread all over the sky. When using the Vulcan, one has two options on how to engage, one of which is more risky than the other, and depends on your aircraft being spaded.

* The first method of engagement is a fairly standard low-risk hit-and-run pass. Approach the enemy, shoot, and break off. There's nothing too special about it, and it relies more on the Phantom's blinding speed to get into the target area, the Vulcan's overwhelming Burst Mass to put at least a few rounds on the target, and then get out of the danger zone as soon as possible lest you become the target of unwanted attention. It requires little in the way of skill and little in the way of performance upgrades, as the FG.1 already has considerable engine power. However, it does not allow for sustained time on target and gives you only a small window of opportunity to make the shot.[[File:PHANTOM FG 1 COOL 2.png|thumb|Phantom FG.1 above the North Atlantic.]]
* The second method of engagement is much more risky, more rewarding, and requires a fair amount of pilot skill and a fully upgraded plane. In addition, this method is specific to British Phantoms, if not the FG.1 in general, as the FG.1 is the only Phantom which has this type of afterburner performance. Pilots are not recommended to try this in the [[F-4C]], [[F-4E]] or [[F-4EJ]]. Conversely, this tactic works very effectively against turning non-Spey phantoms. This method should not be used above 5,000 m under any circumstances. This method works best while in cloud and with an ACM lock on the enemy. The Phantom has its best roll performance at 700-950 km/h (380-515 kts) and can use its takeoff flaps below 700 km/h without risking them ripping off. You can use the airbrakes to slow the aircraft to the required speed, and then by tapping the flaps from raised to takeoff position, you can turn a little tighter than usual, and then use your outstanding afterburner performance to rapidly regain speed. You can out-accelerate any phantom in-game below 5,000 m, and even from a slower start you can rapidly close the gap. This manoeuvre can also be attempted at an angle to the horizontal, although speed can become a much greater concern (both flap rip speed and stall speeds). While this tactic may at first seem illogical- speed, after all, is the lifeblood of jet battles- the fast afterburner acceleration of the Spey Phantom can often ensure that you do not end up stalling. This tactic is, however, highly situational and requires a fair bit of situational awareness and pilot skill to pull off. Phantom neophytes shouldn't attempt this until they have at least spaded it and grown comfortable with it.

The Astute reader may have noticed that the engagement ranges described leave a "dead zone" between 1.5-2.4 km away from the aircraft. This is correct. Unless the enemy is low, slow, or simply unaware of their surroundings, they can easily dodge the AIM-9Ds at this range, and they are too far away for a reliable guns kill. Pilots have two options should they come to this impasse. They can either break off the engagement, extend a little to a more comfortable range (hopefully 3 km) and fire a missile, or head straight at the enemy, casting all pretenses of subtlety to the wind to go for a guns kill with the Vulcan. The choice is up to the pilot to decide.[[File:PHANTOM FG 1 COOL 6.png|thumb|A Phantom FG.1 breaking away to the left while an [[Phantom FGR.2|FGR.2]] presses onwards.|left]]

===Dodging Missiles: The Do's and Don'ts===
The Phantom FG.1 is slightly more manoeuvrable than the FGR.2 due to aerodynamic modifications to allow it to perform better at speeds. This means it has a slightly easier time dodging missiles. However, the easiest to avoid missiles is to not let the enemy get the opportunity to launch them at all. Keep your tail pointed away from enemy radars and the front of enemies. Utilize oblique angles and the Phantom's blinding speed and unrivalled acceleration to get out of missile lock range, and use head-on passes to avoid IRM locks on targets you wish to get gun kills on, before extending out quickly with full afterburner. Do not stay still for prolonged periods of time without checking behind you for tell-tale white streaks or the missile markers. In addition, don't let MiG-21s get close to you. Fly at an oblique angle to them (but keep your tailplane out of clear sight!) until you reach 2.5 km. The R60s, while having a lock range of 3.5 km, have an effective range of around 2.5 km, making them almost useless at longer ranges (unlike the AIM-9Ds, which are most effective when at long range, and manoeuvres when seen from a distance mean smaller course corrections). Matra Magics are harder to evade using distance, but a similar rule applies, where having at least 3-5 km between you and the enemy and travelling at an angle that obscures your engines from enemy aircraft helps massively in avoiding missile launches. Manoeuvring and flares should be an absolute last resort. Pre-emptive manoeuvring to deprive the enemy of chances to lock is the first and foremost way to avoid getting blown out of the sky.

If you need to manoeuvre, though, remember to turn off the afterburner. The Afterburner provides a large beacon-like heat signature that any IRM can track with a modicum of ease. Break into a missile while popping flares. Press your flare button at least three times to release a sufficient amount to decoy off the enemy missile.
[[File:Missile Inboard annotated.png|thumb|350px|Breaking into a missile.]]

==== Breaking into a missile ====
This situation assumes that you are in a Phantom FG.1, and have been locked on and launched at by an enemy aircraft from around 1.5-2.4 km with a missile.

# A missile is launched from the left of the Phantom, which is turning to the left. The Phantom pilot sees this, and switches off the afterburner in order to reduce heat signature.
# The missile is closing rapidly and is around 1 km away. The Phantom turns inwards towards the missile to increase the amount of Gs which the missile must pull, while popping flares (6-8) in an attempt to decoy off the missile.
# The missile cannot pull the necessary Gs, and it misses. The Phantom escapes.

If dodging SAMs at low altitude during Ground Battles matches, try to put terrain features such as trees, buildings and cliffs between you and the missile to force the radar to break a lock, and break towards the missile in order to increase the G-force it needs to pull. While you can do this to some extent in Air RB, there aren't often many terrain features to begin with, and missiles are usually IRMs, which means that they don't require the launcher to continuously maintain line-of-sight with the target they launched at. Another method to dodge missiles is a barrel roll while popping flares, executed at the last possible moment, while the missile is below 1 km away. This method, while risky, is sometimes the only way you can evade close-range missiles such as the [[Hunter F.6]]'s [[SRAAM]]s, the [[MiG-21MF (Germany)|MiG-21MF]] and [[MiG-21SMT]]'s [[R-60]]s and the [[Mirage IIIC]]'s [[Matra R550 Magic 1|R550 Magics]], as well as helicopter-mounted IRMs such as the [[9M39 Igla]] on Russian helicopters, the [[AIM-92 Stinger]] on US helicopters, the British [[Starstreak]], and the [[Mistral]] on French, German, and Italian helicopters.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Great top speed, one of the fastest aircraft in the game
* Decent instantaneous manoeuvrability for a plane of its size
* Excellent engine performance at low altitude
* Excellent rate of climb
* Excellent energy retention
* Adequate selection of secondary ordnance
* Powerful M61 Vulcan with sufficient ammo can wreak havoc against enemy aircraft
* Access to pulse doppler radar and 4 Skyflash missiles, making it the second best high-altitude heavy fighter (the best being the F-4EJ KAI)
* Access to AIM-9Gs, great when engaging at about 3 km.

'''Cons:'''

* As with most jets, tends to bleed off energy in sustained turns- less so than the other top tiers but still significant enough to be worth mentioning
* Worst sustain turning performance out of any top tier jet
* Large target for cannons
* Limited payload options compared to American Phantoms
* Engines lose their edge higher up compared to US turbojets
* Control authority suffers drastically above ~8,000 m
* Possibility of ripping its wings in turns above 1,000 km/h

== History ==


===Background===
From the late 1950s onwards the British Government began looking to replace a number of its early second-generation jet aircraft. The RAF was looking to replace the [[Canberra_(Family)|English Electric Canberra]] in the long-range interdictor role, and the [[Hunter_(Family)|Hawker Hunter]] in the close air support role; meanwhile the Royal Navy was looking to replace their de Havilland Sea Vixens in the fleet air defence role<ref name="WikipediaPhantomUK">Wikipedia: McDonnell Douglas Phantom in UK service</ref>. Two aircraft programs were started to produce suitable replacements; the BAC TSR-2 was to be a highly advanced strike and reconnaissance aircraft to replace the Canberra. Meanwhile the Hunter and the Sea Vixen would be replaced by different versions of the P.1154; a Mach 2 capable VTOL aircraft developed from the P.1127 (the predecessor of famous Harrier Jump Jet). The Navy were not entirely happy with the idea of the navalised P.1154, believing that it did not suit their needs; and in 1964 they dropped out of the programme, deciding to purchase the F-4 Phantom from America instead. In the same year a new government was elected and in 1965 cancelled both the TSR-2 and P.1154 programmes on cost grounds, leaving the RAF without its much needed Canberra and Hunter replacements. The Government announced a plan to purchase the F-111K from America to replace the TSR-2 program (the F-111K would also eventually be cancelled on grounds of cost), while the Hunter would be replaced by F-4 Phantoms from America<ref name="BurkePhantom">Burke 2016</ref>.

===Development===
Both the Royal Navy and RAF were now set to purchase the F-4 Phantom. The RAF could have operated standard F-4 Phantoms (and to some extent would have preferred to)<ref name="BurkePhantom" />, however the aircraft was going to need modifications in order to be able to operate off of the UK's aircraft carriers, which were smaller than the ones Phantoms usually operated from. In a bid to help the British aviation industry (which had been hurt by a number of cancelled programmes), and make the aircraft suitable for use by the Royal Navy it was agreed that all UK Phantoms would be significantly modified, by British companies, from their US counterparts. The most notable change would be the replacement of the American J79 turbojet engines with larger and more powerful Rolls-Royce Spey turbofans; a modified rear fuselage to accommodate the new engines would also be built by BAC, and the aircraft's radar system would be built under license by Ferranti<ref name="WikipediaPhantomUK" />.

It was decided that the UK Phantoms would be based off of the F-4J, which was then the primary version in service with the US Navy at the time<ref name="WikipediaPhantomUK" />. As the RAF and Royal Navy had differing requirements it was decided that two variants of the UK Phantom would be designed: the first variant, for the Royal Navy, would be designated F-4K or Phantom FG.1; while the RAF variant would be developed from the navy variant and be designated F-4M or Phantom FGR.2. Work began on modifying the F-4J to meet the Royal Navy's needs; the nose radome had to be made to hinge 180 degreed, to allow the Phantom fit on the smaller deck elevators of British carriers, and a telescopic nose gear was installed to allow the aircraft to sit pitched nose-up on the flight deck (by up to 11°), reducing take-off distance<ref name="WikipediaPhantomUK" />. The new engines were installed at a slight downwards angle to further increase take-off performance and the rear fuselage to be redesigned to both accommodate the new engines and cope with the increased heat they produced; the air intakes also had to be made larger, and additional intake doors added in the fuselage to provide the Speys with the airflow they required<ref name="BurkePhantom" />. Many other small changes were also made to UK Phantoms. The first F-4K prototype flew on 27 June 1966, with the First F-4M prototype flying on 17 February 1967.

===Service===
The first F-4Ks were delivered in April 1968 and were designated Phantom FG.1, early the following year they began test flights from HMS Eagle and the USS Saratoga. During the testing the intense heat produced by the downward-angled Spey engines, while the afterburner was engaged, caused the flight deck plating of the USS Saratoga to buckle<ref name="BurkePhantom" />. On-board HMS Eagle heavy-duty steel plating had to be welded to the flight deck; and be cooled using water from the ship's fire hoses between flights, in order to stop it from melting<ref name="SearlesPhantom">Searles n.d.</ref>. When the HMS Ark Royal was upgraded to operate Phantoms it had to have water-cooled blast deflectors and decking installed to prevent the Phantom's engines from damaging the flight deck <ref name="BurkePhantom" />. HMS Ark Royal had finished its refit in 1970, by which point the refit of HMS Eagle had been cancelled, along with plans to build two additional aircraft carriers. With the Navy now only having one carrier capable of operating Phantoms it was decided to reduce the Navy's Phantom fleet down to 28 aircraft, with the other 20 FG.1s being transferred to the RAF. The remaining Royal Navy Phantoms would serve on the HMS Ark Royal (R09) until her retirement.

The first F-4Ms entered RAF service in May 1969, filling the role of tactical strike aircraft; they were given the designation Phantom FGR.2 (with FGR standing for Fighter/Ground attack/Reconnaissance). The RAF's Phantom FGR.2 was overall very similar to the Navy's FG.1 variant, but had a number of changes; they used a slightly different version of Spey engines (the FG.1 had faster afterburner engagement to aid with aborted landings on aircraft carriers), and naval features like the telescopic nose gear, slotted tail, and cockpit-controlled wing folding were dropped. The FGR.2 also had different avionics, the radar was slightly different and additional functionality such as an inertial navigation / attack system was added, as well as modification needed to allow the FGR.2 to use a gun pod and reconnaissance pod, among other changes<ref name="GledhillPhantom">Gledhill 2017</ref>. Both the FGR.2 and FG.1 would later be modified with squared off tails, holding a radar warning receiver.

The Phantom FG.1s were withdrawn from Royal Navy service in 1978, with the decommissioning of HMS Ark Royal, and were transferred to the RAF to serve in air defence roles. The Phantom FG.1 was not originally equipped to carry a gun pod while in Royal Navy service, following their transfer to RAF service they were modified in order to carry the SUU-23/A 20 mm gun pod (the same one used by the RAF Phantom FGR.2s). The Phantoms were replaced in Navy service by the Harrier Jump Jet, which was able to operate from the Navy's new Invincible-class aircraft carriers (which were smaller than the HMS Ark Royal).

Following the Falklands War in 1982 the UK deployed a Squadron of FGR.2s to defend the Falkland Islands from any future attack; however this left a gap in the Air defence of the UK Mainland. It was decided to purchase 15 more F-4Js from America to fill this gap. The F4-Js were upgraded to F-4S standard and entered service with the RAF on 19 October 1984 under the designation Phantom F.3 or F-4J(UK)<ref name="BurkePhantom" />. The Phantom remained the UK's primary Air defence aircraft until it was gradually replaced by the Panavia Tornado; the last FG.1s retired on 30 January 1990, the last F.3s retired on 31 January 1991, and the FGR.2 left RAF service on 1 November 1992. The FGR.2 was due to retire earlier however just before retirement it was called back into service to defend RAF Akrotiri, on Cyprus, during the First Gulf War<ref name="BurkePhantom" />.

A total of 48 Phantom FG.1s, 118 Phantom FGR.2s and 15 Phantom F.3s were built<ref name="WikipediaPhantomUK" />.

===Further development plans===
Prior to the Phantom's retirement from RAF service there had been a plan to retrofit them with an upgraded version of the Spey engine. A program was started to design the new engines; they would have various improvements, the most notable of which being new turbine blades, reportedly manufactured from a single metal crystal<ref name="ThrustSSC">SSC Programme Ltd 1997</ref>. These blades would increase the operating life of the engines under normal conditions, but also give the option of operating the engines at higher temperatures, and thus higher thrust (although this would come at the expense of reduced engine life). These engines were known as Spey 205s and had a maximum thrust of 25,000 lb (11,340 kgf)<ref name="ThrustSSC" />, compared to 20,515 lb (9,305 kgf) for the regular Spey engines; although it is unclear if they would be used at this thrust rating while in service. With the Phantom retired the Spey 205 programme was cancelled, and no engines were produced under the Spey 205 name; however 12 Spey 202 engines had been upgraded to Spey 205 standard for testing (and are now generally referred to as Spey 205s, or Spey 202 hybrids)<ref name="BourneSSC">Bourne 1997</ref>. It is known that after the programme was cancelled two of the Spey 205 prototypes, along with two standard Spey 202s were obtained by the ThrustSSC programme (the world's fastest car)<ref name="ThrustSSC" />, although reports vary on whether the car was fitted with Spey 202s or 205s when it completed its record-breaking run.

===Comparison with American Phantoms===
The Rolls-Royce Spey engines gave British Phantoms notably different performance to their American counterparts. At low altitude British Phantoms accelerated faster than standard F-4Js and had a higher top speed; it was estimated that they had a 30% shorter take-off distance and a 20% faster climb to altitude<ref name="WikipediaPhantomUK" />. The Spey turbofan engines were also more fuel efficient than the J-79 turbojets, giving British Phantoms a 10 - 15 % increase in range compared to American aircraft<ref name="GledhillPhantom" />. The main drawback of the British design was that the reshaped fuselage produced more drag than the original design, meaning that at high altitude British Phantoms were slower and performed worse than their American counterparts (British Phantoms topped out at about Mach 1.9 at altitude, while American Phantoms could reach Mach 2.1)<ref name="BurkePhantom" />.

== Media ==


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== See also ==


;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Mikoyan-Gurevich [[MiG-21 (Family)|MiG-21]]
* SAAB [[J35D]] ''Draken''
* Dassault [[Mirage IIIC]]

== External links ==


* [[Wikipedia:McDonnell_Douglas_Phantom_in_UK_service|[Wikipedia] McDonnell Douglas Phantom in UK service]]
* [https://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/phantom/history.php <nowiki>[Thunder and Lightnings]</nowiki> McDonnell-Douglas/BAC F-4K/M Phantom II]

===Citations===
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===Bibliography===

* Bourne, Nigel. (1997). Development of the Rolls-Royce Military Spey Mk202 Engine. Retrieved from [http://www.thrustssc.com/ ThrustSSC]
* Burke, Damien. (2016). McDonnell-Douglas/BAC F-4K/M Phantom II. Retrieved from [https://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/phantom/history.php Thunder and Lightnings]
* Gledhill, David. (2017). Phantom in the Cold War: RAF Wildenrath 1977 - 1992. Barnsley: Pen & Sword Aviation.
* Searles, Dick. (n.d.). HMS Eagle Deck Trials 1969. Retrieved from [https://www.phantomf4k.org/video-library/hms-eagle-deck-trials-1969 Phantom F4K - Fleet Air Arm Royal Navy]
* SSC Programme Ltd. (1997). The Story of the Rolls-Royce Spey. Retrieved from [http://thrustssc.com/ ThrustSSC]
* Wikipedia. (n.d.). McDonnell Douglas Phantom in UK service. Retrieved from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_Phantom_in_UK_service Wikipedia]

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Su-11

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U86428: /* Fixes link to camos */

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 917 || 892 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 24.2 || 25.7 || 25.3 || 25.3 || rowspan="2" | 900
|-
! Upgraded
| 958 || 940 || 23.8 || 24.0 || 41.4 || 33.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 558 || 529 || 380 || ~11 || ~4
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 480 || < 580 || < 660 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | A.Lulka TR-1 || 2
| colspan="3" | 4,752 kg || colspan="2" | 297 kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 35m fuel
|-
| 760 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
| 5,306 kg || 5,805 kg || 6,331 kg || 6,598 kg || 6,650 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 35m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 1,306 kgf || N/A
| 0.49 || 0.45 || 0.41 || 0.40 || 0.39
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 1,306 kgf (0 km/h) || N/A
| 0.49 || 0.45 || 0.41 || 0.40 || 0.39
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


* 6 mm steel above pilot's head
* 12 mm steel headrest
* 12 mm steel behind pilot
* 15 mm steel behind frontal fuel tank
* 15 mm steel in front of armament
* 90 mm bulletproof glass in front of pilot
* Self-sealing fuel tanks (1 cleaver-shaped one behind pilot, 1 cleaver-shaped one in front of pilot)

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|N-37 (37 mm)|NS-23 (23 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 37 mm N-37 cannon, nose-mounted (40 rpg)
* 2 x 23 mm NS-23 cannons, nose-mounted (100 rpg = 200 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|FAB-250M-46 (250 kg)|FAB-500M-46 (500 kg)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 1 x 250 kg FAB-250M-46 bomb (250 kg total)
* 2 x 250 kg FAB-250M-46 bombs (500 kg total)
* 1 x 500 kg FAB-500M-46 bomb (500 kg total)

== Usage in battles ==

The Su-11 can easily be one of the best aircraft at its battle rating. Its primary strength is the excellent acceleration, compared to contemporary jets. It has excellent energy retention (ER) and average to good manoeuvring energy retention (MER).

In general, the best tactic with the Su-11 is to play to its strengths, as with any vehicle; In the Su-11's case, particularly its acceleration and ER can be exploited. Take off from the airfield, and level out quickly. Don't bother gaining initial altitude, jet engines particularly early jet engines, accelerate better at sea level. Turn at least 30 degrees away from the center of the map, and build up speed. It is recommended to build up to about 725 km/h - 805 km/h (450 mph to 500 mph), then place the aircraft into a 20-30 degree zoom climb (steady-state climbing is possible in this aircraft, but like most early jets, zoom climbing is most efficient).

This will take the Su-11 well above 3.5 km, usually closer to 5 km. Dive on unsuspecting enemies, particularly aircraft that don't manoeuvre well, and once they are destroyed, begin a 20-30 degree zoom climb to regain your lost altitude. The energy retention is excellent, and you can typically regain all your lost altitude, if not gain on top of it. Usually enemies on the Su-11 tail can be out-accelerated, which causes most players to lose interest in engaging and break off the chase, even if their aircraft's top speed is higher than the Su-11.

Manoeuvrability is average, but certainly not poor. The Su-11's manoeuvring energy retention is excellent, If forced to dogfight and the opponent vehicle has similar manoeuvrability, simply drain them of their energy with long, sweeping movements.

While the Su-11's armament packs a punch, excellent marksmanship is an absolute necessity, given the low ammo pool of only 200 23 mm rounds and 40 37 mm rounds. In addition it has a relatively low rate of fire (on both cannons). The rounds are also relatively low velocity (especially the 37 mm round). However, the rounds are extremely powerful, with the 37 mm round able to destroy heavy bombers with a couple of well placed hits, and the 23 mm round able to destroy lighter aircraft with 1-2 hits. The best option is to get as close as possible before opening fire to ensure that the enemy plane gets knocked out.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Decent manoeuvrability
* Good acceleration for an early jet
* Fast aircraft
* Heavy armament

'''Cons:'''

* Engines overheat quickly at 100% power
* Low ammo pool
* Low rate of fire, relatively low velocity (particularly the 37 mm) cannons

== History ==

The Su-9 was an early Soviet jet fighter built using knowledge and parts derived from the German Me 262 jet fighter.

The Su-11 was a project in 1946 to mount Yakovlev versions of the RD-10F engines in the Su-9 jet fighter. After testing the Su-9 in the wind tunnel, it was found that engines mounted in the wings rather than underneath reduced drag and that the wingtips also needed a redesign. As such, the Su-11 received a completely redesigned wing and before completion it was also received the Lyulka TR-1 turbojet engines. The two engines produced 2,865 lbf of thrust each for 5930 lbf of thrust total.

The Su-11 first flew on 28 May 1947, demonstrating a maximum speed of 940 km/h at sea level. Unfortunately, the design had a bad longitudinal stability and even modifications to the wing engine nacelles did not solve the issue. Because of these issues, the Su-11 programme was cancelled and did not enter production.

== Media ==


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== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/521170-su-11/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]

{{AirManufacturer Sukhoi}}
{{USSR jet aircraft}}
{{USSR premium aircraft}}

Saetta P-494

2021-08-26T07:24:46Z

U86428: /* Fluff */

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|code=it_p494_saetta
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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian motor torpedo gun boat {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]]. As of [[Update "Starfighters"]], it is the only naval vessel in the game to be equipped with guided weapons.

== General info ==
[[File:Saetta Screenshot 1.jpg|thumb|Saetta sails into battle]]
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}


The only armour on this vehicle surrounds the two 40 mm main cannons, which can be useful for keeping the guns operational when coming under fire. However, the rest of the vehicle has no armour protection.

The Saetta can survive a number of hits when dealing with gunboats, but higher-calibre cannons such as those on destroyers will have no trouble sinking it.

The hull of this vessel is made up of 8 mm of steel, and the superstructure is made up of 4 mm of steel.

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}


{{NavalMobility}}

The Saetta has the highest top speed of any non-premium tier 2 Italian boat. With such speed, it is often able to reach desirable locations on the map before the enemy is able to.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armament ==
{{Specs-Fleet-Armaments}}
[[File:Type 107 Screenshot.jpg|thumb|The front 40 mm mounting on the Saetta]]
=== Primary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Primary}}

{{main|40 mm/70 Breda-Bofors type 107 (40 mm)}}

The main armament on the Saetta is a pair of 40 mm/70 Breda-Bofors Type 107 cannons, one at the bow and one at the stern. These guns have access to two ammunition belt types, High Explosive Fragmentation Incendiary Tracers belts or High Explosive Variable Time Fuse belts, the latter of which has a 7 m trigger radius making it quite useful for dealing enemy aircraft, especially when they are at relatively close range.

Both turrets have a full 360° arc of horizontal rotation and traverse at 95°/second, certainly fast enough to keep up with most surface and air targets. These guns are protected by some armour which will aid in keeping them operational against enemy fire, although this is the only armour on the whole vessel.

=== Special armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Special}}
{{Specs-Fleet-Additional}}

{{main|Nettuno}}
[[File:Nettuno Missile GIF.gif|thumb|Nettuno Missile]]

The Secondary armament on the Saetta is the '''Nettuno (Sea Killer Mk.1)''' missile, these missiles have a range of 10 kilometres (6.2 miles) with a max velocity of 280m/s and carry a warhead with just over 25kg of TNT equivalent, these also feature a proximity fuse making them ideal for engaging enemy air units as well as their usual anti ship-role.

The missiles are carried in a five-round launcher just behind the Saetta's bridge and smoke funnel structure which does mean that the launcher cannot be aimed towards the bow but rather has a 260 degree turning arc of which it navigates at a speed of 11 degrees per second.

== Usage in battles ==
[[File:Saetta Screenshot 4.jpg|thumb|Saetta fires a Nettuno missile, has a user skin https://live.warthunder.com/post/912798/en/]]


The guided missiles are the Saetta's most unique feature. This missile can be used to attack ships quite effectively (usually it can destroy a smaller vessel in one hit), and is also very capable of destroying enemy aircraft, thanks to its proximity fuse. When using the missile, remember that the launcher cannot point directly forwards, and that the enemy must be near the sides or rear of the vessel before a firing solution is achieved. Also keep in mind that the missile is not very fast (280m/s), and that it can take a considerable amount of time to reach the target.

As for the main cannons, the Saetta's 40 mm Bofors are great for dealing with smaller boats. They can be used to sink destroyers, but it will usually take a considerable length of time to do so. The Saetta is equipped with a radar, and has a lead indicator for use in an anti-air role. The lead indicator, when used with the vehicle's 40 mm cannons, makes dealing with aircraft a breeze.

This vessel has quite a high top speed, and is often able to reach favourable positions on the map before the enemy. This speed can also be used to help the vessel outflank the enemy and take them by surprise.

Since the Saetta is unable to survive more than a few hits from an enemy destroyer, it is recommended to stay away from their firing lines, and to keep to cover if possible. Certainly, it is almost never a good idea to engage an enemy destroyer at ranges above one or two kilometres.

[[File:Saetta Screenshot 3.jpg|thumb|Saetta while sailing, Featured user skin https://live.warthunder.com/post/912798/en/]]

=== Pros and cons ===


* Equipped with guided missiles (Nettuno aka Sea Killer Mk 1).
* Guided missiles are able to make quick work of enemy ships.
* High speed.
* Radar with lead indicator.
* Cannons provide great stopping power.
* Great agility.

'''Cons:'''

* Not suited for fighting destroyers.
* Not suited for long range combat with it's cannons.
* No armour.

== History ==

[[File:Saetta Screenshot 2.jpg|thumb|Saetta firing a Nettuno missile, user skin: https://live.warthunder.com/post/912798/en/]]
The Saetta is a MC590 (Freccia class) motor gun boat, this series was an evolution of the earlier Lampo class which itself was a development of the MC490 Folgore. The Saetta is the second ship of the Freccia class, being laid down after the Freccia P-493 and before the never completed Dardo P-495. After its launch in 1965 the Saetta was outfitted and entered service with the Italian Navy on the 25th April 1966, In the same year as its commissioning the centrally mounted 40mm turret was replaced with a five round launcher for the Nettuno (Later called Sea Killer Mk.1) Anti Ship Missile, these missiles were carried onboard until the mid 1970's after which the main role of the Saetta (P-494) and its sister ship Freccia (P-493) had be taken over by the Sparviero class patrol boats of which more were available, with 7 in active service at the time, with less demand for the use of the two ships the Freccia was decommissioned on the 15th of February 1985 and the Saetta on the 15th of May 1986.

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== See also ==

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* ''reference to the series of the ship;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

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* ''topic on the official game forum;''
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{{Italy boats}}

Uncle Tom

2021-06-23T08:25:10Z

U86428: Uncle Tom rocket - explosive weight has been corrected from 11.97 to 51.25 kg (report= https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/443522-26219-mosquito-fbvi-missing-uncle-tom-rockets/&ct=16242873) ; https://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/1260

== Description ==
[[File:WeaponImage Uncle Tom.png|thumb|left|420px|The Uncle Tom rocket (scale is approximate)]]
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=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===


* {{Specs-Link|avenger_mk1}}
* {{Specs-Link|firebrand_tf4}}
* {{Specs-Link|mosquito_fb_mk6}}

== General info ==


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="2" | Rocket characteristics
|-
| '''Mass'''
| 478 kg
|-
| '''Explosive mass'''
| 51.25 kg
|-
| '''Explosive type'''
| TNT
|-
| '''Armor Penetration'''
| 65-93 mm
|-
|}

=== Effective damage ===
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=== Comparison with analogues ===
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== Usage in battles ==
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=== Pros and cons ===
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== History ==
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== Media ==

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File:Uncle Tom WTWallpaper 01.jpg|Uncle Tom
File:Triplex R.P., Uncle Tom, and Red Angel WTWallpaper 01.jpg|Uncle Tom alongside Triplex R.P. and Red Angel
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== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the article about the variant of the weapon;''
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6717-development-unguided-brits-en|[Devblog] Unguided Brits!]]

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