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WMA301

2021-10-27T12:40:43Z

U84459403: Clarified history of the vehicle design.

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]].

Based on the same WZ551 chassis, inspired by the French VAB design, as the ZSL-92 APC and the [[PTL02]] assault gun, the WZ301 is an export-only vehicle of Mainland China made by the NORINCO Factory 256 at Chongqing. The most noticeable differences from the PTL02 are the newly-designed welded turret that somewhat resembles the [[ZTZ96A]] in terms of the arrowhead shape, and the replacement of the original 100 mm smoothbore gun with a standard 105 mm rifled gun. This assault gun saw service in different African countries and in Myanmar, serving as a quick-response assault gun for the buyers and a fast-moving addition to their inventory.

Anyone familiar with the PTL02 can adjust to the WMA301 easily. It is a very similar vehicle for the most part, the main difference lying in its armament. The 105 mm rifled gun has a similar ammunition selection to the [[T-69 II G]] with a new addition being the GP105 gun-launched ATGM. The WMA301's APFSDS is less potent that the PTL02's top round, but it has access to a proximity fused HE round for fending off helicopters and a powerful tandem-warhead ATGM for defeating heavy targets, making it a very versatile vehicle. With good positioning and situational awareness, the WMA301 can contribute in almost any situation.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}


Both the WMA301 and its cousin the PTL02 share the very same WZ551 chassis, the WMA301 only having very slight modifications to the fighting compartment. So the WMA301 shares the same flaw of being very lightly-armoured hull: avoid anything with a HMG or any autocannon vehicles (including aircraft) at all costs, because it is very likely you will not have a second chance to return fire and knock the enemy out. On close inspection, it can be seen that WMA301's hull armour uses high-hardness armour in some areas instead of standard RHA, but considering that the plates are still identically thin to the PTL02's, the improvement in protection is negligible.

Also, its overall height is still high, so it will easily be spotted by enemies albeit with the combination of thin armour and large, empty volume will occasionally frustrate enemies firing subcalibre rounds. Penetration is essentially guaranteed, but minimal spalling is created and a hastily aimed shot may not catch many crew members or important modules in the line of fire. On the other hand, HE shells with a high explosive mass will often transmit shockwaves into the vehicle's interior and knock out the crew with overpressure damage. Other chemical rounds like HEAT and HESH might inflict overpressure damage but with a much lower probability. Bombs, rockets, and artillery shells are similarly dangerous.

The WMA301's turret is slightly more resilient than the PTL02's from the front. The turret face is made of high-hardness RHA and the arrowhead shape leads to greater sloping. This does not make a significant difference in practice; at best, it might shrug off some light autocannon fire at a distance.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour
* High-hardness rolled armour
* Cast homogeneous armour

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 10 mm (33°) ''Driver viewport glacis'' 10 mm (78°) ''Upper Glacis'' 10 mm (40°) ''Lower Glacis'' || 8 mm (25°) ''Top'' 10 mm (6°) ''Bottom'' 8 mm (27°) ''Wheel wells'' || 6 mm (4°) ''Upper plate'' 6 mm (48°) ''Lower glacis'' || 10 mm (12°) ''Front glacis'' 6 mm ''Driver hatch'' 6 mm'' Centre''
|-
| Turret || 30 mm (54°) ''Upper turret front'' 30 mm (30°) ''Lower turret front'' 30 mm (0°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 20 mm (21°) ''Frontal'' 20 mm (4°) ''Rear'' || 15 mm (5°) || 10 mm (12°) 10 mm (13°) ''Centre''
|-
| Cupola || colspan="3" | 10 mm (cylindrical) || 10 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


* 5 mm structural steel storage boxes covering the turret rear
* Lower hull sides, driver viewport glacis, lower glacis, driver's compartment cupolas, rear turret side armour, rear hull armour, and turret front consist of high-hardness RHA
* Gun mantlet consists of cast homogeneous armour
* Wheels are 10 mm thick

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=496|rbMinHp=283}}

Since the WMA301 is essentially a PTL02 with a different turret, the whole power train and the suspension system are totally the same as the latter, powered by the same Deutz DBF8L413F and ZF 5S-111GPA transmission, so they share the same top speed at 85 km/h and the subpar reverse at -7 km/h. Surprisingly, it has the same weight as the PTL02 despite the new features.

Like its domestic cousin, to make the most out of the good top speed, it will need to navigate on hard terrain (roads, urban surfaces) for best results. If players must be used on hilly and soft terrain maps, try your best not to get stuck since the lack of mobility will absolutely be the death sentence of this vehicle.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|WMA301 (105 mm)}}

Since the WMA301 is an export vehicle and the compatibility to mainstream ammunitions is essential, it chose a 105 mm gun as its main armament; based on the ZPL94 gun found on T-69 II G but with lower recoil. It can fires both NATO and NORINCO's 105 mm ammunitions ranging from HEATFS to APFSDS, as well as HE-VT rounds.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[WMA301 (105 mm)|105 mm WMA301]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 30 || rowspan="2" | -4°/+18° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 24.8 || 34.3 || 41.6 || 46.0 || 48.9 || rowspan="2" | 8.71 || rowspan="2" | 7.70 || rowspan="2" | 7.10 || rowspan="2" | 6.70
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 15.5 || 18.2 || 22.1 || 24.4 || 26.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Type-83 HEAT || HEATFS || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400
|-
| DTB-1 || HE-VT* || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21
|-
| Type-83 HESH || HESH || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127
|-
| GP105 || ATGM (tandem) || 750 || 750 || 750 || 750 || 750 || 750
|-
| Type-83 APDS || APFSDS || 337 || 335 || 330 || 322 || 314 || 306
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| Type-83 HEAT || HEATFS || 1,173 || 11 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 1,270 || 65° || 72° || 77°
|-
| DTB-1 || HE-VT* || 825 || 16.2 || 0 || 0.1 || 1,660 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Type-83 HESH || HESH || 730 || 15 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 4,310 || 73° || 77° || 80°
|-
| GP105 || ATGM (tandem) || 370 || 18.8 || 0.4 || 0.1 || 4,620 || 80° || 82° || 90°
|-
| Type-83 APDS || APFSDS || 1,455 || 3.79 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

During the late 1990s, Mainland China has acquired 100 mm gun-launched ATGM technologies from Russia, so the WMA301 also comes with a powerful GP105 tandem ATGM which owners of [[BMP-3]] may find familiar. The statistics are identical to the 9M117M1 Bastion: good travel speed, high TNT equivalent mass, and a tandem warhead for bypassing ERA. Thankfully, the WMA301 does not suffer from the BMP-3's massive reload penalty for ATGMs. The GP105's whopping 750 mm of penetration it can take down practically anything it will ever meet at its BR. This is less than the [[ZBD86]]'s HJ-73E ATGM, but still more than generous - even high-tier Soviet behemoths like the [[T-64B]] or [[T-72B]], featuring ERA and strong composite armour, can be defeated by GP105. As a beam-riding missile, the GP105 is immune to IRCM and can be guided on the move if necessary.

The Type 83 APFSDS round is the same as found on the [[ZTZ59D1]] and shares all traits of it, which is still sufficient for its BR but it might struggle when it faces Russian MBTs with higher protection at longer ranges. For example, a fully spaded [[T-72A]] with the add-on armour can be difficult to penetrate outside of the standard Soviet weak spots of the driver's port and lower glacis, whereas the PTL02's DYW PT86-100 round can penetrate the T-72's hull quite easily. The APFSDS is still the best all-purpose round since it has a high muzzle velocity and is a kinetic projectile that will not be disrupted by bushes, fences, and contemporary ERA.

The Type 83 HEAT-FS round is nothing special, only having very slight improvements over the Type 1973 HEAT-FS used by the PTL02. Against most targets it is simply less useful than the APFSDS. HESH rounds have low penetration and poor ballistics, successful impacts creating wide but shallow sprays of spalling. The HEAT-FS and HESH rounds are generally obsolete, as their only advantages over the APFSDS are their ability to cause overpressure damage through their explosive content, but the aforementioned GP105 can perform the same role as well; in fact, GP105 has a higher TNT equivalent than both the HEAT-FS and HESH. Using HESH rounds as an last-ditch option to knock out hull down vehicles by splashing turret roofs might occasionally be viable.

Last but not least is the DTB-1 HE-VT round, seen previously on the T-69 II G. Although it is useful to deal with helicopters or low-flying aircraft in very shallow dives, this should be done with caution since anything that flies is the last thing the WMA301 wants to face. For anti-helicopter duties, locate the target using the WMA301's thermal sights, lase them with the laser rangefinder, and fire the round with enough lead to catch them comfortably within the proximity fuse radius. Keep in mind that DTB-1 has a rather low muzzle velocity and it is difficult to hit helicopters that are moving unpredictably and/or staying at long range. Actual aircraft are difficult to hit since the WMA301 doesn't have as much gun elevation as a proper SPAA. Serious anti-air duties are best left to the [[WZ305]] or [[PGZ09]].

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''30''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|QJC88A (12.7 mm)|Type 86 (7.62 mm)}}

The turret-mounted 12.7 mm QJC88A HMG has already become the standardized HMG for most PLAGF vehicles after the 1990s and this exported assault gun was no exception. The main usage of the HMG is to deal with lightly protected vehicles and low-flying aircraft including helicopters. It can also effectively damage gun barrels, tracks, optics, MG, and ERA to assist teammates in destroying enemies, though this may require a lot of fire. Players who dealt with the paltry 50-round belt capacity of the 12.7 mm DShK machine guns of previous PLA vehicles will be happy to know that the QJC88A has a much more generous 150-round belt capacity.

The 7.62 mm MG, on the other hand, is only useful in clearing obstacles such as fences, marking out enemy positions on the minimap, or knocking out exposed crew on certain vehicles (eg. M113 TOW). It lacks the penetration to pierce through even lightly armoured vehicles.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[QJC88A (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm QJC88A]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Pintle || 500 (150) || 700 || -3°/+60° || ±180°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 86 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm Type 86]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 800 (250) || 700 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

Like its domestic cousin, the WMA301's main advantages lie in its mobility and gun sight.

With its 85 km/h speed, flanking is the key to avoid any direct fire from pretty much any vehicle armed with at least a heavy machine gun. Because of the negligible protection found on this vehicle, take all precautions and avoid rushing into direct fire at all costs, you will not have the luxury of having the second chance to return fire. Being one of the slowest wheeled assault guns in the game, taking vantage points might not be possible considering the inferior top speed that only gets worse in off-road situations. The thin armour and poor reverse speed punish poor positioning, so think carefully about what spots allow the WMA301 to spot and engage enemies without being overly exposed to incoming fire. Complicated terrains are problematic for this vehicle and it tends to do better in urban combat. Any aircraft is a lethal threat, with either guns or rockets, so keep away from their sight. Use smoke grenades to mask your position if there are no buildings or other forms of large cover to hide behind. Helicopters in particular will have an easy time spotting and destroying the WMA301, so do not attract their attention and make use of the heavy machine gun, gun-launched ATGM, and as a last ditch, HE-VT if they get very close.

Whatever the situation, APFSDS and ATGM are a must for the WMA301 and they come with the tank as it is a premium vehicle. The Type 83 APFSDS can handle most targets at its BR and anything else with ERA or strong composite armour can be dealt with by the ATGM. With the same 2nd generation thermal gunner's sight and a laser rangefinder found on the PTL02, being a mid-field runner for hit-and-run attacks or staying behind and sniping careless targets are both viable roles for the WMA301.

;Enemies worth noting

* [[Rooikat Mk.1D|Rooikat]], [[Centauro (Family)|Centauro]], [[M1128]]: these wheeled vehicles perform a similar flanking role on the battlefield. Therefore you will often encounter them while flanking or on your way to flank. These vehicles are generally faster, both forwards and backwards, have better gun depression or better optics/ammo, so they may already be at a cap point before you. If this is the case, ambush around their location and passively hunt them down, as the WMA301's rather slow acceleration and bad reverse prevents it from being offensive in terms of mobility. The Rooikat lacks thermal sights, making it easier to spot and destroy preemptively. The M1128 has an unmanned turret, good thermal sights for all crew members, and slat armour that occasionally interferes with HEAT-FS rounds. A well placed APFSDS round to the turret or crew compartment may be able to knock them out instantly, but if they survive, a follow-up ATGM should be able to finish the job.

* [[AMX-10RC]]: a contemporary French 6x6 wheeled light tank armed with a 105 mm gun, APFSDS rounds, and thermal sights for the gunner. The AMX-10RC has a rather low profile compared to other wheeled tanks and can be a dangerous sniper. Unlike the other wheeled vehicles mentioned previously, the AMX-10RC does not have any sort of gun stabilizer. Try to attack it when it is on the move and cannot shoot accurately.

* [[Gepard]], [[Type 87]], [[M3 Bradley]], [[BMP-2]], etc.: these vehicles are fast and armed with fully-stabilized autocannons that will very easily rip through the WMA301. Keep a safe distance and try to ambush them.

* [[Dardo]], [[M3A3 Bradley]]: these IFVs can sling a pair of powerful top-attack TOW-2B ATGMs that can easily destroy the WMA301 even if it is hiding behind cover. The TOW-2B also has 4.10 kg of TNT equivalent and a 3 m proxmity fuse, which is very bad news - the operator only needs to send a TOW-2B in the WMA301's general location to trigger lethal overpressure damage. The Dardo is particularly dangerous since it does not need to deploy its launcher before firing and has a very quick autocannon that can mow down the WMA301 down in a heartbeat. If these IFVs are on the field, hang back and be very cautious, only attacking when they are distracted. If they become aware of your position, immediately deploy smoke grenades and retreat as quickly as possible behind tall terrain features.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Deadly 105 mm cannon with high velocity, adequate rate of fire and great accuracy
* Gen 2 gunner thermal greatly enhances search-and-destroy ability
* Various ammunition: from APFSDS to unique HE-VT to gun-launched tandem ATGM
* Superior tandem ATGM carrier (can fire on the move, with a short reload time and can carry a high number of ATGMs)
* Competitive top speed on hard surfaces
* Roof-mounted HMG is lethal against helicopters and light vehicles (eg. M113)
* 2 salvos of smoke grenades provide helpful concealment
* Turn radius is quite small for a wheeled vehicle, beneficial in urban areas
* Has laser rangefinder to assist long-range shooting

'''Cons:'''

* Abysmal reverse speed of only -7 km/h, fatally slow for a wheeled vehicle
* Poor agility on soft terrain like mud, sand and snow
* Poor gun depression
* Bouncy suspension, hard to aim when driving on rough terrain
* Extremely thin hull armour, can be easily penetrated by 12.7 mm HMG fire
* Tall profile, easy to get spotted and shot at
* APFSDS is less powerful at ranges exceeding 2,000m and will struggle to penetrate well-protected tanks (eg. [[T-62M-1]], [[T-72A]])

== History ==

In the early 1980s, the Factory 256 (currently known as NORINCO Chongqing Tiema Industrial Cooperation) started their version of a domestic wheeled APC program coded WZ551. The factory decided to built the APC based on Mercedes-Benz 2026 off-road truck which has just been introduced into Mainland China, the program didn't go well as they decided later on to make major changes to the propulsion system and therefore the WZ551 was delayed. This delay caused the withdrawn of funding from the 7th 5-year project and Factory 256 needed to export this APC in order to recoup their investment. However, in 1986, the prototype of the WZ551 was approved by the PLAGF and was selected as their future wheeled APC. It was approved for production in 1988 and designated as ZSL90 and later ZSL92 with improved propulsion. The WZ551A chassis was then designed to mount different weaponry ranging from riot-suppression equipment, mortar, IFV turret and anti-tank weaponry.

Two decades after its introduction, based on the [[PTL02]] wheeled assault gun, NORINCO introduced a version of it with an improved turret and new low-recoil 105 mm gun for potential customers with needs for a fire-support vehicle with mobility. First sold to Myanmar in early 2010s, this wheeled assault gun was then exported to different Asian/African countries, serving as their quick response vehicle in heated conflict zones.

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PTL02

2021-10-27T12:39:03Z

U84459403: Clarified history of the vehicle design.

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (Simplified Chinese: PTL02 轮式突击炮; lit. wheeled assault gun) is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]].

Based on the WZ551 6x6 chassis, inspired by the French VAB design, developed in early 1990s shared with the ZSL-92 armoured personnel carrier, this vehicle is also the very first wheeled assault gun of the Chinese tech tree. Having subpar speed compared to contemporary wheeled vehicles (at 85 km/h on road) and paperthin protection, it might not be a first rate flanker like the [[Centauro (Family)|Centauro]] or [[Rooikat Mk.1D]]. It is still significantly faster than all other PLAGF/ROCA vehicles for now. Armed with a high velocity 100 mm smoothbore anti-tank gun, its stock APFSDS can penetrate 220 mm of flat RHA at point-blank range and its unlockable DYW PT-86-100 APFSDS boasts up to 381 mm of penetration. This vehicle has thermal sights with acceptable resolution in addition to a laser rangefinder, which can be precious at its BR since they significantly speed up the seek and destroy process. The PTL02 is less forgiving than other wheeled light tanks, but despite its shortcomings in armour, it still offers valuable scouting and flanking abilities that complement other Chinese vehicles well.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}


One of the major drawbacks of this vehicle is the poor protection against any calibre bigger than 12.7 mm since only the turret has more than 20 mm of armour to stop heavy machine gun rounds from some range. Other than that, it's 5 to 10 mm of armour all around. Avoid anything with a HMG or any autocannon vehicles (including aircraft) at all costs, because it is very likely you will not have a second chance to return fire and knock the enemy out.

The PTL02's large profile (it is taller than a [[Leopard 2]]) does it no favours when it comes to avoiding fire, but the combination of thin armour and large, empty volume will occasionally frustrate enemies firing subcalibre rounds. Penetration is essentially guaranteed, but minimal spalling is created and a hastily aimed shot may not catch many crew members or important modules in the line of fire. On the other hand, HE shells with a high explosive mass will often transmit shockwaves into the vehicle's interior and knock out the crew with pressure damage. Other chemical rounds like HEAT and HESH might inflict overpressure damage but with a much lower probability. Bombs, rockets, and artillery shells are similarly dangerous.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Cast homogeneous armour

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 10 mm (33°) ''Driver viewport glacis'' 10 mm (78°) ''Upper Glacis'' 10 mm (40°) ''Lower Glacis'' || 8 mm (25°) ''Top'' 10 mm (6°) ''Bottom'' 8mm (27°)''Wheelwells'' || 6 mm (4°) ''Upper plate'' 6 mm (48°) ''Lower glacis'' || 10 mm (12°) ''Front glacis'' 6 mm ''Driver hatch'' 6 mm'' Centre''
|-
| Turret || 30 mm (31°) ''Turret front'' 20 mm (29°) ''Turret Cheeks'' 30 mm (0°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 20 mm (23°) ''Frontal'' 20 mm (9°) ''Rear'' || 15 mm (14°) || 10 mm (12°) 10 mm (13°) ''Centre''
|-
| Cupola || colspan="3" | 10 mm (cylindrical) || 10 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* 5 mm structural steel storage boxes covering the turret rear
* Gun mantlet consists of cast homogeneous armour
* Wheels are 10 mm thick

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=496|rbMinHp=283}}

Powered by a licensed BF8L413F 325 hp diesel engine from Germany, the PTL02 can reach up to 85 km/h ( and -8 km/h in reverse) on roads. This vehicle still lags behind almost all wheeled assault guns in the game (only the [[M1128]] has a worse power-to-weight ratio). This exacerbates the common problem of wheeled vehicles performing worse on soft terrain. Another negative aspect of the PTL02's mobility is the absurdly slow reverse speed of only ~7km/h, meaning it lacks the agility wheeled vehicles should have and will not be able to quickly back out from danger. The PTL02 will not be able to match the [[Centauro]] for example in terms of zipping in and out of cover and climbing to unusual vantage points.

To make the most out of the good top speed, it will need to navigate on hard terrain (roads, urban surfaces) for best results. If the PTL02 must be used on hilly and soft terrain maps, try your best not to get stuck since the lack of mobility will absolutely be the death sentence of this vehicle.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|PTP86 (100 mm)}}

The 100 mm PTP-86 smoothbore gun found on this vehicle was a improvement on the earlier Soviet based PTP-73 (Type 73) AT gun with the same calibre with NATO alloy technologies (which came from L7A3 then domesticated as ZPT-79). The PTP-86 has similar performance as the [[Type 69]]'s gun and players can get used to it fairly quickly. Bear in mind the poor gun depression. It has a significantly faster turret rotation than the Type 69, which is a plus.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[PTP86 (100 mm)|100 mm PTP86]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 30 || rowspan="2" | -4°/+18° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 24.8 || 34.3 || 41.6 || 46.0 || 48.9 || rowspan="2" | 8.71 || rowspan="2" | 7.70 || rowspan="2" | 7.10 || rowspan="2" | 6.70
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 15.5 || 18.2 || 22.1 || 24.4 || 26.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| 1-72-85 APDS-FS || APFSDS || 220 || 213 || 193 || 173 || 156 || 140
|-
| 1-71-74 HE || HE || 17 || 17 || 17 || 17 || 17 || 17
|-
| Type 1973 HEAT-FS || HEATFS || 390 || 390 || 390 || 390 || 390 || 390
|-
| DYW PT86-100 || APFSDS || 381 || 378 || 372 || 364 || 356 || 347
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| 1-72-85 APDS-FS || APFSDS || 1,505 || 4.7 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 76° || 77° || 80°
|-
| 1-71-74 HE || HE || 900 || 15 || 0 || 0.1 || 1,300 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Type 1973 HEAT-FS || HEATFS || 1,000 || 10.05 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 1,180 || 65° || 72° || 77°
|-
| DYW PT86-100 || APFSDS || 1,610 || 3.3 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

The PTL02 has a similar ammunition selection as the [[Type 69]], with the exception of the DYW PT86-100 APFSDS round. The stock 1-72-85 APFSDS with 220 mm of flat penetration at 10 metres is worse than many AP/APHE rounds. It also suffers noticeable drop-off at long distances. 1-72-85 does have a few good qualities: it has a good muzzle velocity of 1,505 m/s and the angled penetration is decent considering the flat penetration, topping out at 127 mm @ 60 degrees. For comparison, the [[T-55A]]'s 3BM25 APFSDS round has far superior flat penetration (up to 335 mm) but only has slightly higher angled penetration (up to 129 mm @ 60 degrees). 1-72-85 penetrates sloped armour more effectively than flat armour, rather like long rod APFSDS rounds. The post-penetration damage is nothing to write home about but still workable. Spalling is poor, but the round tends to stay intact after penetration and is quite good at detonating ammo racks and knocking out crew members if they are in the line of fire. Memorize the module layouts of enemy tanks to efficiently cripple and destroy them as the PTL02 cannot withstand return fire.

The 1-71-74 HE shell is weak and should be ignored. It has a low explosive content and might be able to cause pressure damage to light targets, but not consistently. Any vehicle with more than paper-thin armour will be immune to it.

The unlockable Type 1973 HEAT-FS is a Tier III modification. Familiar to [[Type 59]] or [[Type 69]] users, it has the same penetration performance as the T-55A's 3BK17M HEAT-FS with a lower TNT equivalent and a slightly lower muzzle velocity. 390 mm of flat penetration at any distance is impressive and will slice through almost all tanks lacking special armour types (spaced, reactive, composite). While it lacks the extra high velocity of the APFSDS and can be detonated by bushes or fences, the HEAT-FS is still good for dealing with heavy targets that the APFSDS can't penetrate. The explosive content is rather low but it might trigger overpressure damage occasionally against light targets. Post-penetration damage is somewhat inconsistent, so again, aim for crew members and ammo racks.

The DYW PT86-100 APFSDS round, introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]], is the best option overall and comes as a tier IV researchable modification. With an even higher velocity at 1,610 m/s than 1-72-85, it has wonderful penetration for the PTL02's rank and battle rating: 381 mm of flat penetration and 220 mm of 60-degree penetration at point-blank is on the level of the M774 and M833 rounds used by the [[IPM1|IPM1 Abrams]]! Very few opponents that the PTL02 faces can possibly resist this round, and even if used in lineups higher than 8.0, it fares well against relatively tough opponents like the [[T-72A]]. Once this round is unlocked, the PTL02's cannon becomes significantly more competitive and easy to use. Together with the linkage of rangefinder and gun sight, this round can prove its capabilities in the battlefield without having to worry about where to aim at its BR. Keep in mind that it costs 210 Silver Lions per shot, so firing it excessively can get expensive; make the shots count.

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''30''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|QJC88A (12.7 mm)|Type 86 (7.62 mm)}}

The turret-mounted 12.7 mm QJC88A HMG has already become the standardized HMG for most PLAGF vehicles after the 1990s. The main usage of the HMG is to deal with lightly protected vehicles and low-flying aircraft including helicopters. It can also effectively damage gun barrels, tracks, optics, MG, and ERA to assist teammates in destroying enemies, though this may require a lot of fire. Players who dealt with the paltry 50 round belt capacity of the 12.7 mm DShK machine guns of previous PLA vehicles will be happy to know that the QJC88A has a much more generous 150 round belt capacity.

The 7.62 mm MG, on the other hand, is only useful in clearing obstacles such as fences, marking out enemy positions on the minimap, or knocking out exposed crew on certain vehicles (eg. M113 TOW). It lacks the penetration to pierce through even lightly armoured vehicles.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
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! colspan="5" | [[QJC88A (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm QJC88A]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Pintle || 500 (150) || 700 || -5°/+60° || ±180°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
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! colspan="5" | [[Type 86 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm Type 86]]
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! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 800 (250) || 700 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

Being a wheeled vehicle and the very first wheeled assault gun of the Chinese tech tree, the PTL02's main advantages lie in its mobility and gun sight.

With its 85 km/h speed, flanking is the key to avoid any direct fire from pretty much any vehicle armed with at least a heavy machine gun. Because of the negligible protection found on this vehicle, take all precautions and avoid rushing into direct fire at all costs, you will not have the luxury of having the second chance to return fire. Being one of the slowest wheeled assault guns in the game, taking vantage points might not be possible considering the inferior top speed that only gets worse in off-road situations. The thin armour and poor reverse speed punish poor positioning, so think carefully about what spots allow the PTL02 to spot and engage enemies without being overly exposed to incoming fire. Complicated terrains are problematic for this vehicle and it tends to do better in urban combat. Any aircraft is a lethal threat, with either guns or rockets, so keep away from their sight. Use smoke grenades to mask your position if there are no buildings or other forms of large cover to hide behind. Helicopters in particular will have an easy time spotting and destroying the PTL02, so do not attract their attention and make use of the heavy machine gun if they get very close.

The 1-72-85 APFSDS comes stock, although it is enough to deal with earlier Cold War MBTs like [[Leopard 1 (Family)|Leopard 1]] and [[AMX-30 (Family)|AMX-30]], this stock round might meet American tanks with rounded hull like [[M48A1]] and the tougher [[M103]] which cause some trouble; in this case, bring some HEAT-FS to help deal with such vehicles. Otherwise, memorize the weak spots of enemy tanks and try to flank. Contemporary MBTs tend to have poor side armour and even a half decent angle of attack may be enough for the APFSDS to penetrate where typical APDS rounds could not. Once the better DYW PT86-100 APFSDS round has been researched, you are more likely to take down your enemies without too much concern on their protection with a whopping 381mm penetration at point-blank. As discussed previously, aim for ammo racks and important crew members. If an injured enemy is still capable of returning fire, be very cautious and consider leaving them for teammates to clean up. Since the PTL02 is a relatively modern vehicle, dating from 2002, it has second generation thermal sights for the gunner with sufficient resolution to help players find targets at a good distance. With the laser rangefinder and the linkage of gun sight to rangefinder, the PTL02 is a mobile sniper that cause severe damage to the enemy team. Caution and planning are still needed to compensate for its faults, but once the PTL02 is in a good position, its thermal sights and railgun-like top APFSDS allow it to send enemies to hangar efficiently.

;Enemies worth noting

* [[Rooikat Mk.1D]], [[Centauro (Family)|Centauro]], [[M1128]]: these wheeled vehicles perform a similar flanking role on the battlefield. Therefore you will often encounter them while flanking or on your way to flank. These vehicles are generally faster, both forwards and backwards, have better gun depression or better optics/ammo, so they may already be at a cap point before you. If this is the case, ambush around their location and passively hunt them down, as the PTL02's rather slow acceleration and bad reverse prevents it from being offensive in terms of mobility. The Rooikat lacks thermal sights, making it easier to spot and destroy preemptively. The Centauro has stronger armor and a more spaced out crew layout. The M1128 can only be encountered in a full uptier and has an unmanned turret, good thermal sights for all crew members, and slat armour that occasionally interferes with HEAT-FS rounds.

* [[AMX-10RC]]: a contemporary French 6x6 wheeled light tank armed with a 105 mm gun, APFSDS rounds, and thermal sights for the gunner. The AMX-10RC has a rather low profile compared to other wheeled tanks and can be a dangerous sniper. Unlike the other wheeled vehicles mentioned previously, the AMX-10RC does not have any sort of gun stabilizer. Try to attack it when it is on the move and cannot shoot accurately.

* [[M60A1 RISE (P)]], [[Sho't Kal Dalet (Great Britain)|Sho't Kal Dalet]], [[Centurion Mk.5 AVRE]]: these three medium tanks have good frontal armour and are equipped with ERA, so the HEAT-FS and stock 1-72-85 APFSDS will have some difficulty in direct engagements. All three have hull side armour of at most 50 mm, so the best option is usually to get a slight flank and overmatch their side armour using the APFSDS. In a last resort frontal engagement, all of them can be targeted in the turret ring area, though that is a difficult shot. The Sho't Kal can be ammo-racked through the lower glacis and the AVRE has some ERA gaps around the gun mantlet. Shooting the AVRE in the lower glacis is possible but somewhat annoying due to the obscuring plow attachment, and it is also hard to hit the ammo racks below the turret basket. These problems disappear once the top APFSDS is unlocked, as it has more than enough power to penetrate the three tanks anywhere and at any distance.

* [[Gepard]], [[Type 87]], [[M3 Bradley]], [[BMP-2]], etc.: these vehicles are fast and armed with fully-stabilized autocannons that will very easily rip through the PTL02. Keep a safe distance and try to ambush them.

Overall, the PTL02 can be put to good use by players who are skilled with using APFSDS and HEAT-FS rounds, perhaps from prior experience on the [[Type 69]], and are willing to trade any semblance of armour for increased scouting abilities, better mobility, and a very powerful top APFSDS round. The combination of thermals, a stabilized gun, and HEAT-FS + both APFSDS can prove useful in many situations and is good training for the fast-paced combat seen at higher ranks.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* High speed and agility on hard and even terrain
* Hard-hitting 100 mm cannon capable of firing powerful rounds
* Powerful DYW PT-86-100 APFSDS shell with 381 mm penetration which is very effective at its BR, still highly potent in uptiers
* Gunner thermal optics significantly boost its fighting capability, especially at night
* Thin armour may cause overpenetration, leading to minimal shrapnel damage
* Fast turret traverse
* Two-plane stabiliser allows better targeting
* Roof-mounted 12.7 mm HMG is lethal against helicopters and light vehicles
* Laser rangefinder with linkage to gunsight helps sniping.

'''Cons:'''

* Extremely slow reverse speed for a wheeled vehicle
* Poor gun depression (-4 degrees) renders it useless in hilly battlefields
* Very thin armour, can be mowed down by common .50 cal MG frontally as well as knocked out by HE shells through overpressure
* Tall profile
* Suspension is soft and bouncy, hull wobbles severely when breaking to a stop
* As with other wheeled vehicles, poor mobility on soft or uneven terrain
* No thermal sight for commander
* Abysmal penetration figures for the 1-72-85 APDS-FS round against heavily armoured vehicles - expect the round to frequently non-pen or bounce off Russian T-62's, British Chieftains and American M60's

== History ==

In the early 1980s, Factory 256 (now known as NORINCO Chongqing Tiema Industrial Cooperation) started their version of a domestic wheeled APC program coded WZ551. The factory decided to build the APC based on the Mercedes-Benz 2026 off-road truck which has just been introduced into Mainland China, the program didn't go well as they decided later on to make major changes to the propulsion system and therefore the WZ551 was delayed. This delay caused the withdrawal of funding from the 7th 5-year project and Factory 256 needed to export this APC in order to recoup their investment. However, in 1986, the prototype of the WZ551 was approved by the PLAGF and was selected as their future wheeled APC. It was approved for production in 1988 and designated as ZSL90 and later ZSL92 with improved propulsion. The WZ551A chassis was then designed to mount different weaponry ranging from riot-suppression equipment, mortar, IFV turret and anti-tank weaponry.

Just a few years prior to the official introduction of WZ551 and its variant, PLAGF kept their eyes on the development of wheeled assault guns from NATO countries, and Factory 256 was also among one of the factories that was asked to design a new domestic wheeled assault gun; they then opted for Type 86 100 mm AT gun as the main gun of their prototype Type 87 wheeled assault gun. While it didn't make it through state certifications, the PLAGF did saw how the extensive use of wheeled assault guns during the Gulf War helped the Coalition as a light, mobile gun platform while remaining less expensive to operate than conventional MBTs. Later, when the tension between Mainland China and the Taiwanese Government got more intense (the 2nd Taiwan Strait Crisis), PLAGF also found the potential of using a wheeled assault gun with the extensive and well-developed road network of Taiwan in view of the possible landing operations; thus WZ551A got a second chance. After some rapid development, PTL97 with 100 mm AT gun passed field tests, it was then further upgraded with a new image-stabilized FCS and some redesign of the main gun. The newly designed PTL02 finally passed state certification in October 2001 and was first publicly shown in the 50th Anniversary of the Establishment of PRC parade, as the 12th phalanx of the vehicle column in the parade. It serves as a quick response mobile gun platform for the artillery troops.

=== [[wt:en/news/7047-development-ptl02-chinese-wheels-en|Devblog]] ===
In the late 1980's, the NORINCO corporation successfully tested the Type 87 armoured vehicle. The prototype featured a 6x6 chassis of a prospective Type 90 armoured personnel carrier with a 100mm anti-tank gun. The prototype vehicle successfully passed the tests, but was not put into service.

The army authorities returned to the project in the early 90's, when, in the course of modernization, the PLA began to form mobile motorized infantry formations. This was where the Type 87 researches came in handy: by 2003, on the same 6x6 chassis of the new Chinese armoured vehicles ZSL92 and ZSL92A, a PTL02 infantry support vehicle appeared with a 100mm smooth-bore cannon in the turret. The 19-ton infantry fire support vehicle possessed significant mobility and a weapon capable of effectively destroying fortifications and armoured vehicles, except for modern MBTs.

Mass production of the PTL02 has been going on since 2004, the SPG is widely used by the Chinese army and is produced for [[WMA301|export in a version with a 105mm gun]], unified for the use of Western-style ammunition.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=cn_ptl_02 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Images
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;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|MMCxWP5N75Q|'''A Simple Video On A Respectable Chinese Tank Destroyer''' - ''PhlyDaily''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[WMA301]]- export version with NATO 105 mm gun and revised turret.

;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

* [[Rooikat Mk.1D]]
* [[Centauro I 105]]
* [[AMX-10RC]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7047-development-ptl02-chinese-wheels-en|[Devblog] PTL02: Chinese Wheels]]

{{China light tanks}}
[[Category:Wheeled ground vehicles]]

User talk:U44629479

2021-10-27T12:34:46Z

U84459403:

= WZ-551 =
Yes but you can't deny there is at least an inspiration of design to say the least or are we saying that China never followed other design for their own vehicles ? It's quite disrespectful and dishonest if you don't allow at least to make an hint the WZ551 chassis was inspired by the VAB as in all sources you gave the VAB is quoted.--[[User:U84459403|U84459403]] ([[User talk:U84459403|talk]]) 12:33, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

= Talk page =
Hello Colok76286, it will be better for people to use this talk page to contact you and post questions/information as all posts here are immediately viewable and do not require a moderator to approve the message which is necessary on the User page. You can use your user page to annotate areas you are working on (such as the torpedoes) and maybe provide status updates on what you are specifically working on (it's up to you it is your space to work with). Also, using the talk page alerts you when you log back in that someone has left a new message for you, whereas this does not happen with the User Page. Good luck working with the torpedoes, they do need a little love and there is a lot of good information out there about them. -[[User:U64962917|U64962917]] ([[User talk:U64962917|talk]]) 12:21, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

= Award Request images =
Hello there!
First of all, thank you for all the edits you've been doing thus far on the Wiki.
I was looking through all the past edits in the last month, and noticed all the image work you and Jareel did. Given that many of the requested/missing award images are now up, do you still need the original award images?

Water multistrike--[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 07:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
: Hello, I don't need the pictures I uploaded anymore. You can totally delete them. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 11:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

=Tank mobility=
Hi! Thank you for your hard work but I basically made all the edits you've done obsolete. The wiki has a database with the tank weights, max speed, and spaded engine horsepowers(you can see them in the sidebar) so I made a template that taps into that and generated everything aside from stock engine power and addon armor weight. If you want to switch to the template then use <nowiki>{{tankMobility|abMinHp= number|rbMinHp= number|}}</nowiki>--[[User:U30585107|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107|talk]]) 16:24, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
: That's even better. Thanks. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 21:07, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::I don't think anyone has done any major errorchecking on the numbers. So if it's just 1 off like for max speed, I'd give it a pass as a rounding issue. If it's more than that send a message to the wiki admins. In the mean time you can overwrite the numbers with the parameters shown here [[Template:TankMobility]]--[[User:U30585107|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107|talk]]) 15:49, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Wow, great job, congrats on finally managing to add the template to every single tank page! We really appreciate the work you've put in here! - [[User:U38088265|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265|talk]]) 11:10, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

:There is something weird going on with the tank mobility tables, as they seem to only have stock engine power now and last field says "division by 0". You might want to take a look at this? --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 06:25, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

= Forum profile =
Hello Colok76286,

Could you please send/give me a link to your war thunder forum profile.

Kindest Regards
Wiki Team
--[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 01:05, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Please see your forum PM o7 --[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 23:04, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

= Indexing =
Thanks for updating the information regarding the quotation/question mark issue. I did not realize the question marks caused problems with indexing, good to know, I learn something new every day! Thanks! --[[User:U64962917|U64962917]] ([[User talk:U64962917|talk]]) 21:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
: Yes, I tried searching for tables with missing values replaced by ?.??, ??.??, ??? or ???? but the Wiki search engine returned no results. On the other hand, when searching for missing values filled with _.__, __._, __.__, __. ___ or ____, the search results were correct. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 22:40, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

= List of images for deletion/modification =

== Files for deletion ==
Files deleted --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 07:50, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Done --[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 10:16, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

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= m60t sabra to m60(family) =

i added sabra writing to m60(family) can you look what i have done? https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/506818-m60t-aka-sabra-mk-ii [[User:U73853576|U73853576]] ([[User talk:U73853576|talk]]) 09:38, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

= About References and sources; and user-created video guides. =

Hey there, it has come to my attention that one of the many topics that need some polishing (or filling as we'd call it back in the day) is torpedoes in general: first off, standardizing sources to simply Wikipedia (nowadays it works just well enough!) or rather other kind of military sources? (for example and as many people do, simply source the references with Wikipedia's sources instead of citing Wikipedia itself as the source).
Second, I believe it would be a great addition but rather high-effort to make video demonstrations of torpedo launches on aircraft, but that would need streamlining for the how-to as well (with technicalities such as video format, size, duration, which aircraft to choose in regards to torpedo models that can be used by several different planes, etc etc.); but I would not simply go and do it before a good format to follow. I invite anyone who wants to discuss that matter to my talk page as well: but I hope it is a topic that wants to be discussed. Keep up the good work!
I personally will focus on British torpedo pages for now; simply because it's the nation I personally have the most fleshed out.
--[[User:U47850888|U47850888]] ([[User talk:U47850888|talk]]) 09:28, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

= Torpedoes =
I will try and create a template for torpedo specs (Explosive mass, speed, etc), will post here for approval or modification (don't worry, I'm very used to waiting for mods to look onto templates) while I note down British torpedoes' stats ingame. --[[User:U47850888|U47850888]] ([[User talk:U47850888|talk]]) 10:06, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
: Templates for torpedoes already exist: [[WSP Table Templates#Ammunition]], see the table "Torpedo characteristics". Here is an example implemented: [[MTB-1 1 series#Additional armament]] --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 11:32, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

:: Thank you! I should've checked in first: then would be adding it to torpedo pages be okay (as I plan to)? Rather than it belonging only on the vehicle pages, it should be on the torpedo's page as well in my opinion, as for example, it is present on Naval vehicles, but isn't included for Air vehicles (In this case, the MTB-1 uses the [[18 inch Mark XII (450 mm)]] but the other users of the torpedo, such as the [[Beaufighter Mk VIc#Suspended Armament]]).

= Events =
Thanks for your comprehensive events summary, it's ridiculous this is not official part of the wiki.
Since the content of your Summer event page has not been approved, could you please include the template here also? [[User:U105837429|U105837429]] ([[User talk:U105837429|talk]]) 10:45, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

= Regarding your recent reversion on "[[F-4C Phantom II]]" =

You didn't state any reason for the reversion, so I was just looking to see why it was done so it might not happen again. Did you take issue with the performance facts I listed? From my use of the aircraft in game that is the reality of how it performs. If you have it unlocked you could try it out yourself in a test flight (or a match if you want to blow the lions), it really isn't able to climb to its listed altitude or achieve its max speed on arcade, realistic, or simulator.
--[[User:U4885444|U4885444]] ([[User talk:U4885444|talk]]) 04:17, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
:I asked for a 2nd opinion and most of your edits have been approved. Two points to keep in mind for future edits: 1) do not modify table templates and 2) if you find that a plane does not perform like it should historically, please file a bug report. Thank you,
--[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 11:20, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

= Removal of ammo rack information on the Ka-Chi =

I noticed you removed the information I filled in on the ammo racks of the Ka-Chi, I'm new to the wiki and I was wondering why you did this. I got the information myself from in-game (although it crashed my computer after I got the numbers on the first one so I decided not to continue), and I'm very confident the information I added on them was correct. Thanks! --[[User:U55492223|U55492223]] ([[User talk:U55492223|talk]]) 14:13, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
:We don't accept partially filled tables for ammoracks, only fully filled tables. I filled the table and included your remarks. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 14:36, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
::Ah so that is why, thank you! Also I can't believe I didn't notice the ammo rack in the turret being empty when I was getting the information. Thanks again! --[[User:U55492223|U55492223]] ([[User talk:U55492223|talk]]) 19:21, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

= Undoing changes =
Hi, I have made many changes for the better in the wiki, but they keep getting undone. I would like to know why.--[[User:U103089390|U103089390]] ([[User talk:U103089390|talk]]) 08:46, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
:Hello, please send one of the wiki team a PM on the war thunder forums or myself, we will happily explain but we will not disclose any moderation action on a public page. Have a great weekend! --[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 13:55, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

= Image source =
Hello, Colok76286, sorry I did not get to you earlier. In regards to the question that you had asked me earlier regarding the two images I submitted for addition to the page on the 75 mm M6 cannon, I regret that I do not know where the images came from or what their copyright status is, as they were in a personal folder I had for images regarding the M24 Chaffee. I did a reverse search on the image of the cutaway of the M24 Chaffee's turret and came to this website http://www.m24chaffee.com/. I reverse-searched the other image and did not find anything. I understand the issues with using images with unknown copyright status in different countries and apologize for the inconvenience in dealing with my mistake. Regards, --[[User:U43191476|U43191476]] ([[User talk:U43191476|talk]]) 00:06, 02 October 2021 (UTC)

= Garage Image =
Hello, dunno where to ask this, but I noticed the ZBD86 garage image is outdated (shows the old bmp1p mod), and I was going to replace it, but I didn't know if I'm supposed to use a stock image or a fully upgraded one as the model changes, can you clarify? Thanks. --[[User:U20043873|U20043873]] ([[User talk:U20043873|talk]]) 15:00, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
:Hi, you can add 2 garage images (1 stock and 1 with the upgrade) like vehicles with add-on armour ([[Magach 3 (USA)]] for example). --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 15:36, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

== Type 59 copyright status ==

As for your message about the picture posted on the Type 59's page, it's been on my computer for some time, the original image came from a Chinese article on the Type 59 in 2018 or so, I've never seen it before then. Here's the [https://wemp.app/posts/5ae81110-1ec4-4aad-8ae2-40324e270cee page] I found it on, as far back as I could find the image. Sorry for not responding on my page too, I'm not too familiar with using the Wiki beyond editing! --[[User:U37468494|OddPhenomena]]([[User_talk:U37468494|talk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

User talk:U44629479

2021-10-27T12:33:46Z

U84459403:

= WZ-551 =
Yes but you can't deny there is at least an inspiration of design to say the least or are we saying that China never followed other design for their own vehicles ? It's quite disrespectful and dishonest if you don't allow at least to make an hint the WZ551 chassis was inspired by the VAB as in all sources you gave the VAB is cited.--[[User:U84459403|U84459403]] ([[User talk:U84459403|talk]]) 12:33, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

= Talk page =
Hello Colok76286, it will be better for people to use this talk page to contact you and post questions/information as all posts here are immediately viewable and do not require a moderator to approve the message which is necessary on the User page. You can use your user page to annotate areas you are working on (such as the torpedoes) and maybe provide status updates on what you are specifically working on (it's up to you it is your space to work with). Also, using the talk page alerts you when you log back in that someone has left a new message for you, whereas this does not happen with the User Page. Good luck working with the torpedoes, they do need a little love and there is a lot of good information out there about them. -[[User:U64962917|U64962917]] ([[User talk:U64962917|talk]]) 12:21, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

= Award Request images =
Hello there!
First of all, thank you for all the edits you've been doing thus far on the Wiki.
I was looking through all the past edits in the last month, and noticed all the image work you and Jareel did. Given that many of the requested/missing award images are now up, do you still need the original award images?

Water multistrike--[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 07:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
: Hello, I don't need the pictures I uploaded anymore. You can totally delete them. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 11:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

=Tank mobility=
Hi! Thank you for your hard work but I basically made all the edits you've done obsolete. The wiki has a database with the tank weights, max speed, and spaded engine horsepowers(you can see them in the sidebar) so I made a template that taps into that and generated everything aside from stock engine power and addon armor weight. If you want to switch to the template then use <nowiki>{{tankMobility|abMinHp= number|rbMinHp= number|}}</nowiki>--[[User:U30585107|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107|talk]]) 16:24, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
: That's even better. Thanks. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 21:07, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::I don't think anyone has done any major errorchecking on the numbers. So if it's just 1 off like for max speed, I'd give it a pass as a rounding issue. If it's more than that send a message to the wiki admins. In the mean time you can overwrite the numbers with the parameters shown here [[Template:TankMobility]]--[[User:U30585107|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107|talk]]) 15:49, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Wow, great job, congrats on finally managing to add the template to every single tank page! We really appreciate the work you've put in here! - [[User:U38088265|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265|talk]]) 11:10, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

:There is something weird going on with the tank mobility tables, as they seem to only have stock engine power now and last field says "division by 0". You might want to take a look at this? --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 06:25, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

= Forum profile =
Hello Colok76286,

Could you please send/give me a link to your war thunder forum profile.

Kindest Regards
Wiki Team
--[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 01:05, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Please see your forum PM o7 --[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 23:04, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

= Indexing =
Thanks for updating the information regarding the quotation/question mark issue. I did not realize the question marks caused problems with indexing, good to know, I learn something new every day! Thanks! --[[User:U64962917|U64962917]] ([[User talk:U64962917|talk]]) 21:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
: Yes, I tried searching for tables with missing values replaced by ?.??, ??.??, ??? or ???? but the Wiki search engine returned no results. On the other hand, when searching for missing values filled with _.__, __._, __.__, __. ___ or ____, the search results were correct. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 22:40, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

= List of images for deletion/modification =

== Files for deletion ==
Files deleted --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 07:50, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Done --[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 10:16, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

;Other images
<div><ul>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Matchmaker_Bf109SBMode.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:GarageImage P-39Q-15 (USSR).png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:GarageImage He 112 B-1 U2.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:GarageImage Do 17 E-1.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:GarageImage_Sea_Meteor_F_Mk_3.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Garage_Image_-_Potez_631.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:MTB 1.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:W.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Su-6 Modifications .png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:2020-11-08 (1).png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:EBR.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:EBR xray.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:MIG -21 PFM Parked in a Hanger.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:T72A_top.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:T72Aside.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Ammoracks Object 906.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Germany Flag.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Ammorack of the VCC-80 Dardo (ATGM).png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Ammoracks M4 Hybrid (Italy).png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Soviet IS-2.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Chinese IS-2.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Soviet IS-2 (fully modified).png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Soviet Options.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Chinese Options.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:C13 T90 ammorack.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
</ul></div>

= m60t sabra to m60(family) =

i added sabra writing to m60(family) can you look what i have done? https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/506818-m60t-aka-sabra-mk-ii [[User:U73853576|U73853576]] ([[User talk:U73853576|talk]]) 09:38, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

= About References and sources; and user-created video guides. =

Hey there, it has come to my attention that one of the many topics that need some polishing (or filling as we'd call it back in the day) is torpedoes in general: first off, standardizing sources to simply Wikipedia (nowadays it works just well enough!) or rather other kind of military sources? (for example and as many people do, simply source the references with Wikipedia's sources instead of citing Wikipedia itself as the source).
Second, I believe it would be a great addition but rather high-effort to make video demonstrations of torpedo launches on aircraft, but that would need streamlining for the how-to as well (with technicalities such as video format, size, duration, which aircraft to choose in regards to torpedo models that can be used by several different planes, etc etc.); but I would not simply go and do it before a good format to follow. I invite anyone who wants to discuss that matter to my talk page as well: but I hope it is a topic that wants to be discussed. Keep up the good work!
I personally will focus on British torpedo pages for now; simply because it's the nation I personally have the most fleshed out.
--[[User:U47850888|U47850888]] ([[User talk:U47850888|talk]]) 09:28, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

= Torpedoes =
I will try and create a template for torpedo specs (Explosive mass, speed, etc), will post here for approval or modification (don't worry, I'm very used to waiting for mods to look onto templates) while I note down British torpedoes' stats ingame. --[[User:U47850888|U47850888]] ([[User talk:U47850888|talk]]) 10:06, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
: Templates for torpedoes already exist: [[WSP Table Templates#Ammunition]], see the table "Torpedo characteristics". Here is an example implemented: [[MTB-1 1 series#Additional armament]] --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 11:32, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

:: Thank you! I should've checked in first: then would be adding it to torpedo pages be okay (as I plan to)? Rather than it belonging only on the vehicle pages, it should be on the torpedo's page as well in my opinion, as for example, it is present on Naval vehicles, but isn't included for Air vehicles (In this case, the MTB-1 uses the [[18 inch Mark XII (450 mm)]] but the other users of the torpedo, such as the [[Beaufighter Mk VIc#Suspended Armament]]).

= Events =
Thanks for your comprehensive events summary, it's ridiculous this is not official part of the wiki.
Since the content of your Summer event page has not been approved, could you please include the template here also? [[User:U105837429|U105837429]] ([[User talk:U105837429|talk]]) 10:45, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

= Regarding your recent reversion on "[[F-4C Phantom II]]" =

You didn't state any reason for the reversion, so I was just looking to see why it was done so it might not happen again. Did you take issue with the performance facts I listed? From my use of the aircraft in game that is the reality of how it performs. If you have it unlocked you could try it out yourself in a test flight (or a match if you want to blow the lions), it really isn't able to climb to its listed altitude or achieve its max speed on arcade, realistic, or simulator.
--[[User:U4885444|U4885444]] ([[User talk:U4885444|talk]]) 04:17, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
:I asked for a 2nd opinion and most of your edits have been approved. Two points to keep in mind for future edits: 1) do not modify table templates and 2) if you find that a plane does not perform like it should historically, please file a bug report. Thank you,
--[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 11:20, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

= Removal of ammo rack information on the Ka-Chi =

I noticed you removed the information I filled in on the ammo racks of the Ka-Chi, I'm new to the wiki and I was wondering why you did this. I got the information myself from in-game (although it crashed my computer after I got the numbers on the first one so I decided not to continue), and I'm very confident the information I added on them was correct. Thanks! --[[User:U55492223|U55492223]] ([[User talk:U55492223|talk]]) 14:13, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
:We don't accept partially filled tables for ammoracks, only fully filled tables. I filled the table and included your remarks. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 14:36, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
::Ah so that is why, thank you! Also I can't believe I didn't notice the ammo rack in the turret being empty when I was getting the information. Thanks again! --[[User:U55492223|U55492223]] ([[User talk:U55492223|talk]]) 19:21, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

= Undoing changes =
Hi, I have made many changes for the better in the wiki, but they keep getting undone. I would like to know why.--[[User:U103089390|U103089390]] ([[User talk:U103089390|talk]]) 08:46, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
:Hello, please send one of the wiki team a PM on the war thunder forums or myself, we will happily explain but we will not disclose any moderation action on a public page. Have a great weekend! --[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 13:55, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

= Image source =
Hello, Colok76286, sorry I did not get to you earlier. In regards to the question that you had asked me earlier regarding the two images I submitted for addition to the page on the 75 mm M6 cannon, I regret that I do not know where the images came from or what their copyright status is, as they were in a personal folder I had for images regarding the M24 Chaffee. I did a reverse search on the image of the cutaway of the M24 Chaffee's turret and came to this website http://www.m24chaffee.com/. I reverse-searched the other image and did not find anything. I understand the issues with using images with unknown copyright status in different countries and apologize for the inconvenience in dealing with my mistake. Regards, --[[User:U43191476|U43191476]] ([[User talk:U43191476|talk]]) 00:06, 02 October 2021 (UTC)

= Garage Image =
Hello, dunno where to ask this, but I noticed the ZBD86 garage image is outdated (shows the old bmp1p mod), and I was going to replace it, but I didn't know if I'm supposed to use a stock image or a fully upgraded one as the model changes, can you clarify? Thanks. --[[User:U20043873|U20043873]] ([[User talk:U20043873|talk]]) 15:00, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
:Hi, you can add 2 garage images (1 stock and 1 with the upgrade) like vehicles with add-on armour ([[Magach 3 (USA)]] for example). --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 15:36, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

== Type 59 copyright status ==

As for your message about the picture posted on the Type 59's page, it's been on my computer for some time, the original image came from a Chinese article on the Type 59 in 2018 or so, I've never seen it before then. Here's the [https://wemp.app/posts/5ae81110-1ec4-4aad-8ae2-40324e270cee page] I found it on, as far back as I could find the image. Sorry for not responding on my page too, I'm not too familiar with using the Wiki beyond editing! --[[User:U37468494|OddPhenomena]]([[User_talk:U37468494|talk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

User talk:U84459403

2021-10-26T21:52:12Z

U84459403:

==WZ-551==
There is no evidence of link between the WZ-551 and the VAB other than the external form. See [[wikipedia:WZ-551|[Wikipedia] WZ-551]], [http://www.military-today.com/apc/wz_551.htm <nowiki>[Military Today]</nowiki> Type 92] and [https://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/modern/China/WZ551-Type92_APC.php <nowiki>[Tanks Encyclopedia]</nowiki> Type 90 & 92 APC]. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 16:49, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Yes but you can't deny there is at least an inspiration of design to say the least or are we saying that China never followed other design for their own vehicles ?
It's quite disrespectful and dishonest if you don't allow at least to make an hint the WZ551 chassis was inspired by the VAB as in all sources you gave the VAB is cited.--[[User:U84459403|U84459403]] ([[User talk:U84459403|talk]]) 21:52, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

User talk:U84459403

2021-10-26T21:51:42Z

U84459403:

User talk:U84459403

2021-10-26T21:49:54Z

U84459403:

User talk:U84459403

2021-10-26T21:49:41Z

U84459403: /* WZ-551 */

==WZ-551==
There is no evidence of link between the WZ-551 and the VAB other than the external form. See [[wikipedia:WZ-551|[Wikipedia] WZ-551]], [http://www.military-today.com/apc/wz_551.htm <nowiki>[Military Today]</nowiki> Type 92] and [https://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/modern/China/WZ551-Type92_APC.php <nowiki>[Tanks Encyclopedia]</nowiki> Type 90 & 92 APC]. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 16:49, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
Yes but you can't deny there is at least an inspiration of design to say the least or are we saying that China never followed other design for their own vehicles ?
It's quite disrespectful and dishonest if you don't allow at least to make an hint the WZ551 chassis was inspired by the VAB.

User talk:U44629479

2021-10-26T16:27:32Z

U84459403:

= Talk page =
Hello Colok76286 Can you look up information about the WZ551 chassis and let me add the information about it: This is a VAB or a WZ551 ?
[[File:VAB.jpg|thumb]]
[[File:VAB.1.jpg|thumb]]
[[File:Vab Albi 01.jpg|thumb]]
[[File:WZ551 Sri Lanka.jpg|thumb]]

Hello Colok76286, it will be better for people to use this talk page to contact you and post questions/information as all posts here are immediately viewable and do not require a moderator to approve the message which is necessary on the User page. You can use your user page to annotate areas you are working on (such as the torpedoes) and maybe provide status updates on what you are specifically working on (it's up to you it is your space to work with). Also, using the talk page alerts you when you log back in that someone has left a new message for you, whereas this does not happen with the User Page. Good luck working with the torpedoes, they do need a little love and there is a lot of good information out there about them. -[[User:U64962917|U64962917]] ([[User talk:U64962917|talk]]) 12:21, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

= Award Request images =
Hello there!
First of all, thank you for all the edits you've been doing thus far on the Wiki.
I was looking through all the past edits in the last month, and noticed all the image work you and Jareel did. Given that many of the requested/missing award images are now up, do you still need the original award images?

Water multistrike--[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 07:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
: Hello, I don't need the pictures I uploaded anymore. You can totally delete them. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 11:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

=Tank mobility=
Hi! Thank you for your hard work but I basically made all the edits you've done obsolete. The wiki has a database with the tank weights, max speed, and spaded engine horsepowers(you can see them in the sidebar) so I made a template that taps into that and generated everything aside from stock engine power and addon armor weight. If you want to switch to the template then use <nowiki>{{tankMobility|abMinHp= number|rbMinHp= number|}}</nowiki>--[[User:U30585107|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107|talk]]) 16:24, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
: That's even better. Thanks. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 21:07, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::I don't think anyone has done any major errorchecking on the numbers. So if it's just 1 off like for max speed, I'd give it a pass as a rounding issue. If it's more than that send a message to the wiki admins. In the mean time you can overwrite the numbers with the parameters shown here [[Template:TankMobility]]--[[User:U30585107|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107|talk]]) 15:49, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Wow, great job, congrats on finally managing to add the template to every single tank page! We really appreciate the work you've put in here! - [[User:U38088265|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265|talk]]) 11:10, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

:There is something weird going on with the tank mobility tables, as they seem to only have stock engine power now and last field says "division by 0". You might want to take a look at this? --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 06:25, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

= Forum profile =
Hello Colok76286,

Could you please send/give me a link to your war thunder forum profile.

Kindest Regards
Wiki Team
--[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 01:05, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Please see your forum PM o7 --[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 23:04, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

= Indexing =
Thanks for updating the information regarding the quotation/question mark issue. I did not realize the question marks caused problems with indexing, good to know, I learn something new every day! Thanks! --[[User:U64962917|U64962917]] ([[User talk:U64962917|talk]]) 21:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
: Yes, I tried searching for tables with missing values replaced by ?.??, ??.??, ??? or ???? but the Wiki search engine returned no results. On the other hand, when searching for missing values filled with _.__, __._, __.__, __. ___ or ____, the search results were correct. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 22:40, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

= List of images for deletion/modification =

== Files for deletion ==
Files deleted --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 07:50, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Done --[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 10:16, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

;Other images
<div><ul>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Matchmaker_Bf109SBMode.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:GarageImage P-39Q-15 (USSR).png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:GarageImage He 112 B-1 U2.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:GarageImage Do 17 E-1.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:GarageImage_Sea_Meteor_F_Mk_3.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Garage_Image_-_Potez_631.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:MTB 1.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:W.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Su-6 Modifications .png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:2020-11-08 (1).png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:EBR.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:EBR xray.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:MIG -21 PFM Parked in a Hanger.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:T72A_top.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:T72Aside.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Ammoracks Object 906.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Germany Flag.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Ammorack of the VCC-80 Dardo (ATGM).png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Ammoracks M4 Hybrid (Italy).png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Soviet IS-2.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Chinese IS-2.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Soviet IS-2 (fully modified).png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Soviet Options.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:Chinese Options.png|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:C13 T90 ammorack.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
</ul></div>

= m60t sabra to m60(family) =

i added sabra writing to m60(family) can you look what i have done? https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/506818-m60t-aka-sabra-mk-ii [[User:U73853576|U73853576]] ([[User talk:U73853576|talk]]) 09:38, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

= About References and sources; and user-created video guides. =

Hey there, it has come to my attention that one of the many topics that need some polishing (or filling as we'd call it back in the day) is torpedoes in general: first off, standardizing sources to simply Wikipedia (nowadays it works just well enough!) or rather other kind of military sources? (for example and as many people do, simply source the references with Wikipedia's sources instead of citing Wikipedia itself as the source).
Second, I believe it would be a great addition but rather high-effort to make video demonstrations of torpedo launches on aircraft, but that would need streamlining for the how-to as well (with technicalities such as video format, size, duration, which aircraft to choose in regards to torpedo models that can be used by several different planes, etc etc.); but I would not simply go and do it before a good format to follow. I invite anyone who wants to discuss that matter to my talk page as well: but I hope it is a topic that wants to be discussed. Keep up the good work!
I personally will focus on British torpedo pages for now; simply because it's the nation I personally have the most fleshed out.
--[[User:U47850888|U47850888]] ([[User talk:U47850888|talk]]) 09:28, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

= Torpedoes =
I will try and create a template for torpedo specs (Explosive mass, speed, etc), will post here for approval or modification (don't worry, I'm very used to waiting for mods to look onto templates) while I note down British torpedoes' stats ingame. --[[User:U47850888|U47850888]] ([[User talk:U47850888|talk]]) 10:06, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
: Templates for torpedoes already exist: [[WSP Table Templates#Ammunition]], see the table "Torpedo characteristics". Here is an example implemented: [[MTB-1 1 series#Additional armament]] --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 11:32, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

:: Thank you! I should've checked in first: then would be adding it to torpedo pages be okay (as I plan to)? Rather than it belonging only on the vehicle pages, it should be on the torpedo's page as well in my opinion, as for example, it is present on Naval vehicles, but isn't included for Air vehicles (In this case, the MTB-1 uses the [[18 inch Mark XII (450 mm)]] but the other users of the torpedo, such as the [[Beaufighter Mk VIc#Suspended Armament]]).

= Events =
Thanks for your comprehensive events summary, it's ridiculous this is not official part of the wiki.
Since the content of your Summer event page has not been approved, could you please include the template here also? [[User:U105837429|U105837429]] ([[User talk:U105837429|talk]]) 10:45, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

= Regarding your recent reversion on "[[F-4C Phantom II]]" =

You didn't state any reason for the reversion, so I was just looking to see why it was done so it might not happen again. Did you take issue with the performance facts I listed? From my use of the aircraft in game that is the reality of how it performs. If you have it unlocked you could try it out yourself in a test flight (or a match if you want to blow the lions), it really isn't able to climb to its listed altitude or achieve its max speed on arcade, realistic, or simulator.
--[[User:U4885444|U4885444]] ([[User talk:U4885444|talk]]) 04:17, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
:I asked for a 2nd opinion and most of your edits have been approved. Two points to keep in mind for future edits: 1) do not modify table templates and 2) if you find that a plane does not perform like it should historically, please file a bug report. Thank you,
--[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 11:20, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

= Removal of ammo rack information on the Ka-Chi =

I noticed you removed the information I filled in on the ammo racks of the Ka-Chi, I'm new to the wiki and I was wondering why you did this. I got the information myself from in-game (although it crashed my computer after I got the numbers on the first one so I decided not to continue), and I'm very confident the information I added on them was correct. Thanks! --[[User:U55492223|U55492223]] ([[User talk:U55492223|talk]]) 14:13, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
:We don't accept partially filled tables for ammoracks, only fully filled tables. I filled the table and included your remarks. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 14:36, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
::Ah so that is why, thank you! Also I can't believe I didn't notice the ammo rack in the turret being empty when I was getting the information. Thanks again! --[[User:U55492223|U55492223]] ([[User talk:U55492223|talk]]) 19:21, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

= Undoing changes =
Hi, I have made many changes for the better in the wiki, but they keep getting undone. I would like to know why.--[[User:U103089390|U103089390]] ([[User talk:U103089390|talk]]) 08:46, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
:Hello, please send one of the wiki team a PM on the war thunder forums or myself, we will happily explain but we will not disclose any moderation action on a public page. Have a great weekend! --[[User:U1619975|U1619975]] ([[User talk:U1619975|talk]]) 13:55, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

= Image source =
Hello, Colok76286, sorry I did not get to you earlier. In regards to the question that you had asked me earlier regarding the two images I submitted for addition to the page on the 75 mm M6 cannon, I regret that I do not know where the images came from or what their copyright status is, as they were in a personal folder I had for images regarding the M24 Chaffee. I did a reverse search on the image of the cutaway of the M24 Chaffee's turret and came to this website http://www.m24chaffee.com/. I reverse-searched the other image and did not find anything. I understand the issues with using images with unknown copyright status in different countries and apologize for the inconvenience in dealing with my mistake. Regards, --[[User:U43191476|U43191476]] ([[User talk:U43191476|talk]]) 00:06, 02 October 2021 (UTC)

= Garage Image =
Hello, dunno where to ask this, but I noticed the ZBD86 garage image is outdated (shows the old bmp1p mod), and I was going to replace it, but I didn't know if I'm supposed to use a stock image or a fully upgraded one as the model changes, can you clarify? Thanks. --[[User:U20043873|U20043873]] ([[User talk:U20043873|talk]]) 15:00, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
:Hi, you can add 2 garage images (1 stock and 1 with the upgrade) like vehicles with add-on armour ([[Magach 3 (USA)]] for example). --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 15:36, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

== Type 59 copyright status ==

As for your message about the picture posted on the Type 59's page, it's been on my computer for some time, the original image came from a Chinese article on the Type 59 in 2018 or so, I've never seen it before then. Here's the [https://wemp.app/posts/5ae81110-1ec4-4aad-8ae2-40324e270cee page] I found it on, as far back as I could find the image. Sorry for not responding on my page too, I'm not too familiar with using the Wiki beyond editing! --[[User:U37468494|OddPhenomena]]([[User_talk:U37468494|talk]]) 16:08, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

WMA301

2021-10-26T13:13:25Z

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]].

Based on the same WZ551 chassis (Chinese version of the French VAB) as the ZSL-92 APC and the [[PTL02]] assault gun, the WZ301 is an export-only vehicle of Mainland China made by the NORINCO Factory 256 at Chongqing. The most noticeable differences from the PTL02 are the newly-designed welded turret that somewhat resembles the [[ZTZ96A]] in terms of the arrowhead shape, and the replacement of the original 100 mm smoothbore gun with a standard 105 mm rifled gun. This assault gun saw service in different African countries and in Myanmar, serving as a quick-response assault gun for the buyers and a fast-moving addition to their inventory.

Anyone familiar with the PTL02 can adjust to the WMA301 easily. It is a very similar vehicle for the most part, the main difference lying in its armament. The 105 mm rifled gun has a similar ammunition selection to the [[T-69 II G]] with a new addition being the GP105 gun-launched ATGM. The WMA301's APFSDS is less potent that the PTL02's top round, but it has access to a proximity fused HE round for fending off helicopters and a powerful tandem-warhead ATGM for defeating heavy targets, making it a very versatile vehicle. With good positioning and situational awareness, the WMA301 can contribute in almost any situation.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}


Both the WMA301 and its cousin the PTL02 share the very same WZ551 chassis, the WMA301 only having very slight modifications to the fighting compartment. So the WMA301 shares the same flaw of being very lightly-armoured hull: avoid anything with a HMG or any autocannon vehicles (including aircraft) at all costs, because it is very likely you will not have a second chance to return fire and knock the enemy out. On close inspection, it can be seen that WMA301's hull armour uses high-hardness armour in some areas instead of standard RHA, but considering that the plates are still identically thin to the PTL02's, the improvement in protection is negligible.

Also, its overall height is still high, so it will easily be spotted by enemies albeit with the combination of thin armour and large, empty volume will occasionally frustrate enemies firing subcalibre rounds. Penetration is essentially guaranteed, but minimal spalling is created and a hastily aimed shot may not catch many crew members or important modules in the line of fire. On the other hand, HE shells with a high explosive mass will often transmit shockwaves into the vehicle's interior and knock out the crew with overpressure damage. Other chemical rounds like HEAT and HESH might inflict overpressure damage but with a much lower probability. Bombs, rockets, and artillery shells are similarly dangerous.

The WMA301's turret is slightly more resilient than the PTL02's from the front. The turret face is made of high-hardness RHA and the arrowhead shape leads to greater sloping. This does not make a significant difference in practice; at best, it might shrug off some light autocannon fire at a distance.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour
* High-hardness rolled armour
* Cast homogeneous armour

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 10 mm (33°) ''Driver viewport glacis'' 10 mm (78°) ''Upper Glacis'' 10 mm (40°) ''Lower Glacis'' || 8 mm (25°) ''Top'' 10 mm (6°) ''Bottom'' 8 mm (27°) ''Wheel wells'' || 6 mm (4°) ''Upper plate'' 6 mm (48°) ''Lower glacis'' || 10 mm (12°) ''Front glacis'' 6 mm ''Driver hatch'' 6 mm'' Centre''
|-
| Turret || 30 mm (54°) ''Upper turret front'' 30 mm (30°) ''Lower turret front'' 30 mm (0°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 20 mm (21°) ''Frontal'' 20 mm (4°) ''Rear'' || 15 mm (5°) || 10 mm (12°) 10 mm (13°) ''Centre''
|-
| Cupola || colspan="3" | 10 mm (cylindrical) || 10 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


* 5 mm structural steel storage boxes covering the turret rear
* Lower hull sides, driver viewport glacis, lower glacis, driver's compartment cupolas, rear turret side armour, rear hull armour, and turret front consist of high-hardness RHA
* Gun mantlet consists of cast homogeneous armour
* Wheels are 10 mm thick

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=496|rbMinHp=283}}

Since the WMA301 is essentially a PTL02 with a different turret, the whole power train and the suspension system are totally the same as the latter, powered by the same Deutz DBF8L413F and ZF 5S-111GPA transmission, so they share the same top speed at 85 km/h and the subpar reverse at -7 km/h. Surprisingly, it has the same weight as the PTL02 despite the new features.

Like its domestic cousin, to make the most out of the good top speed, it will need to navigate on hard terrain (roads, urban surfaces) for best results. If players must be used on hilly and soft terrain maps, try your best not to get stuck since the lack of mobility will absolutely be the death sentence of this vehicle.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|WMA301 (105 mm)}}

Since the WMA301 is an export vehicle and the compatibility to mainstream ammunitions is essential, it chose a 105 mm gun as its main armament; based on the ZPL94 gun found on T-69 II G but with lower recoil. It can fires both NATO and NORINCO's 105 mm ammunitions ranging from HEATFS to APFSDS, as well as HE-VT rounds.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[WMA301 (105 mm)|105 mm WMA301]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 30 || rowspan="2" | -4°/+18° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 24.8 || 34.3 || 41.6 || 46.0 || 48.9 || rowspan="2" | 8.71 || rowspan="2" | 7.70 || rowspan="2" | 7.10 || rowspan="2" | 6.70
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 15.5 || 18.2 || 22.1 || 24.4 || 26.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Type-83 HEAT || HEATFS || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400
|-
| DTB-1 || HE-VT* || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21
|-
| Type-83 HESH || HESH || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127
|-
| GP105 || ATGM (tandem) || 750 || 750 || 750 || 750 || 750 || 750
|-
| Type-83 APDS || APFSDS || 337 || 335 || 330 || 322 || 314 || 306
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| Type-83 HEAT || HEATFS || 1,173 || 11 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 1,270 || 65° || 72° || 77°
|-
| DTB-1 || HE-VT* || 825 || 16.2 || 0 || 0.1 || 1,660 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Type-83 HESH || HESH || 730 || 15 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 4,310 || 73° || 77° || 80°
|-
| GP105 || ATGM (tandem) || 370 || 18.8 || 0.4 || 0.1 || 4,620 || 80° || 82° || 90°
|-
| Type-83 APDS || APFSDS || 1,455 || 3.79 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

During the late 1990s, Mainland China has acquired 100 mm gun-launched ATGM technologies from Russia, so the WMA301 also comes with a powerful GP105 tandem ATGM which owners of [[BMP-3]] may find familiar. The statistics are identical to the 9M117M1 Bastion: good travel speed, high TNT equivalent mass, and a tandem warhead for bypassing ERA. Thankfully, the WMA301 does not suffer from the BMP-3's massive reload penalty for ATGMs. The GP105's whopping 750 mm of penetration it can take down practically anything it will ever meet at its BR. This is less than the [[ZBD86]]'s HJ-73E ATGM, but still more than generous - even high-tier Soviet behemoths like the [[T-64B]] or [[T-72B]], featuring ERA and strong composite armour, can be defeated by GP105. As a beam-riding missile, the GP105 is immune to IRCM and can be guided on the move if necessary.

The Type 83 APFSDS round is the same as found on the [[ZTZ59D1]] and shares all traits of it, which is still sufficient for its BR but it might struggle when it faces Russian MBTs with higher protection at longer ranges. For example, a fully spaded [[T-72A]] with the add-on armour can be difficult to penetrate outside of the standard Soviet weak spots of the driver's port and lower glacis, whereas the PTL02's DYW PT86-100 round can penetrate the T-72's hull quite easily. The APFSDS is still the best all-purpose round since it has a high muzzle velocity and is a kinetic projectile that will not be disrupted by bushes, fences, and contemporary ERA.

The Type 83 HEAT-FS round is nothing special, only having very slight improvements over the Type 1973 HEAT-FS used by the PTL02. Against most targets it is simply less useful than the APFSDS. HESH rounds have low penetration and poor ballistics, successful impacts creating wide but shallow sprays of spalling. The HEAT-FS and HESH rounds are generally obsolete, as their only advantages over the APFSDS are their ability to cause overpressure damage through their explosive content, but the aforementioned GP105 can perform the same role as well; in fact, GP105 has a higher TNT equivalent than both the HEAT-FS and HESH. Using HESH rounds as an last-ditch option to knock out hull down vehicles by splashing turret roofs might occasionally be viable.

Last but not least is the DTB-1 HE-VT round, seen previously on the T-69 II G. Although it is useful to deal with helicopters or low-flying aircraft in very shallow dives, this should be done with caution since anything that flies is the last thing the WMA301 wants to face. For anti-helicopter duties, locate the target using the WMA301's thermal sights, lase them with the laser rangefinder, and fire the round with enough lead to catch them comfortably within the proximity fuse radius. Keep in mind that DTB-1 has a rather low muzzle velocity and it is difficult to hit helicopters that are moving unpredictably and/or staying at long range. Actual aircraft are difficult to hit since the WMA301 doesn't have as much gun elevation as a proper SPAA. Serious anti-air duties are best left to the [[WZ305]] or [[PGZ09]].

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''30''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|QJC88A (12.7 mm)|Type 86 (7.62 mm)}}

The turret-mounted 12.7 mm QJC88A HMG has already become the standardized HMG for most PLAGF vehicles after the 1990s and this exported assault gun was no exception. The main usage of the HMG is to deal with lightly protected vehicles and low-flying aircraft including helicopters. It can also effectively damage gun barrels, tracks, optics, MG, and ERA to assist teammates in destroying enemies, though this may require a lot of fire. Players who dealt with the paltry 50-round belt capacity of the 12.7 mm DShK machine guns of previous PLA vehicles will be happy to know that the QJC88A has a much more generous 150-round belt capacity.

The 7.62 mm MG, on the other hand, is only useful in clearing obstacles such as fences, marking out enemy positions on the minimap, or knocking out exposed crew on certain vehicles (eg. M113 TOW). It lacks the penetration to pierce through even lightly armoured vehicles.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[QJC88A (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm QJC88A]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Pintle || 500 (150) || 700 || -3°/+60° || ±180°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 86 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm Type 86]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 800 (250) || 700 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

Like its domestic cousin, the WMA301's main advantages lie in its mobility and gun sight.

With its 85 km/h speed, flanking is the key to avoid any direct fire from pretty much any vehicle armed with at least a heavy machine gun. Because of the negligible protection found on this vehicle, take all precautions and avoid rushing into direct fire at all costs, you will not have the luxury of having the second chance to return fire. Being one of the slowest wheeled assault guns in the game, taking vantage points might not be possible considering the inferior top speed that only gets worse in off-road situations. The thin armour and poor reverse speed punish poor positioning, so think carefully about what spots allow the WMA301 to spot and engage enemies without being overly exposed to incoming fire. Complicated terrains are problematic for this vehicle and it tends to do better in urban combat. Any aircraft is a lethal threat, with either guns or rockets, so keep away from their sight. Use smoke grenades to mask your position if there are no buildings or other forms of large cover to hide behind. Helicopters in particular will have an easy time spotting and destroying the WMA301, so do not attract their attention and make use of the heavy machine gun, gun-launched ATGM, and as a last ditch, HE-VT if they get very close.

Whatever the situation, APFSDS and ATGM are a must for the WMA301 and they come with the tank as it is a premium vehicle. The Type 83 APFSDS can handle most targets at its BR and anything else with ERA or strong composite armour can be dealt with by the ATGM. With the same 2nd generation thermal gunner's sight and a laser rangefinder found on the PTL02, being a mid-field runner for hit-and-run attacks or staying behind and sniping careless targets are both viable roles for the WMA301.

;Enemies worth noting

* [[Rooikat Mk.1D|Rooikat]], [[Centauro (Family)|Centauro]], [[M1128]]: these wheeled vehicles perform a similar flanking role on the battlefield. Therefore you will often encounter them while flanking or on your way to flank. These vehicles are generally faster, both forwards and backwards, have better gun depression or better optics/ammo, so they may already be at a cap point before you. If this is the case, ambush around their location and passively hunt them down, as the WMA301's rather slow acceleration and bad reverse prevents it from being offensive in terms of mobility. The Rooikat lacks thermal sights, making it easier to spot and destroy preemptively. The M1128 has an unmanned turret, good thermal sights for all crew members, and slat armour that occasionally interferes with HEAT-FS rounds. A well placed APFSDS round to the turret or crew compartment may be able to knock them out instantly, but if they survive, a follow-up ATGM should be able to finish the job.

* [[AMX-10RC]]: a contemporary French 6x6 wheeled light tank armed with a 105 mm gun, APFSDS rounds, and thermal sights for the gunner. The AMX-10RC has a rather low profile compared to other wheeled tanks and can be a dangerous sniper. Unlike the other wheeled vehicles mentioned previously, the AMX-10RC does not have any sort of gun stabilizer. Try to attack it when it is on the move and cannot shoot accurately.

* [[Gepard]], [[Type 87]], [[M3 Bradley]], [[BMP-2]], etc.: these vehicles are fast and armed with fully-stabilized autocannons that will very easily rip through the WMA301. Keep a safe distance and try to ambush them.

* [[Dardo]], [[M3A3 Bradley]]: these IFVs can sling a pair of powerful top-attack TOW-2B ATGMs that can easily destroy the WMA301 even if it is hiding behind cover. The TOW-2B also has 4.10 kg of TNT equivalent and a 3 m proxmity fuse, which is very bad news - the operator only needs to send a TOW-2B in the WMA301's general location to trigger lethal overpressure damage. The Dardo is particularly dangerous since it does not need to deploy its launcher before firing and has a very quick autocannon that can mow down the WMA301 down in a heartbeat. If these IFVs are on the field, hang back and be very cautious, only attacking when they are distracted. If they become aware of your position, immediately deploy smoke grenades and retreat as quickly as possible behind tall terrain features.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Deadly 105 mm cannon with high velocity, adequate rate of fire and great accuracy
* Gen 2 gunner thermal greatly enhances search-and-destroy ability
* Various ammunition: from APFSDS to unique HE-VT to gun-launched tandem ATGM
* Superior tandem ATGM carrier (can fire on the move, with a short reload time and can carry a high number of ATGMs)
* Competitive top speed on hard surfaces
* Roof-mounted HMG is lethal against helicopters and light vehicles (eg. M113)
* 2 salvos of smoke grenades provide helpful concealment
* Turn radius is quite small for a wheeled vehicle, beneficial in urban areas
* Has laser rangefinder to assist long-range shooting

'''Cons:'''

* Abysmal reverse speed of only -7 km/h, fatally slow for a wheeled vehicle
* Poor agility on soft terrain like mud, sand and snow
* Poor gun depression
* Bouncy suspension, hard to aim when driving on rough terrain
* Extremely thin hull armour, can be easily penetrated by 12.7 mm HMG fire
* Tall profile, easy to get spotted and shot at
* APFSDS is less powerful at ranges exceeding 2,000m and will struggle to penetrate well-protected tanks (eg. [[T-62M-1]], [[T-72A]])

== History ==

In the early 1980s, the Factory 256 (currently known as NORINCO Chongqing Tiema Industrial Cooperation) started their version of a domestic wheeled APC program coded WZ551. The factory decided to built the APC based on Mercedes-Benz 2026 off-road truck which has just been introduced into Mainland China, the program didn't go well as they decided later on to make major changes to the propulsion system and therefore the WZ551 was delayed. This delay caused the withdrawn of funding from the 7th 5-year project and Factory 256 needed to export this APC in order to recoup their investment. However, in 1986, the prototype of the WZ551 was approved by the PLAGF and was selected as their future wheeled APC. It was approved for production in 1988 and designated as ZSL90 and later ZSL92 with improved propulsion. The WZ551A chassis was then designed to mount different weaponry ranging from riot-suppression equipment, mortar, IFV turret and anti-tank weaponry.

Two decades after its introduction, based on the [[PTL02]] wheeled assault gun, NORINCO introduced a version of it with an improved turret and new low-recoil 105 mm gun for potential customers with needs for a fire-support vehicle with mobility. First sold to Myanmar in early 2010s, this wheeled assault gun was then exported to different Asian/African countries, serving as their quick response vehicle in heated conflict zones.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=cn_wma_301 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|3AXZaPoFojs|'''The Shooting Range #264''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:28 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==

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* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
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{{Specs-Card
|code=cn_wma_301
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]].

Based on the same WZ551 chassis, Chinese reproduction of the French VAB, as the ZSL-92 APC and the [[PTL02]] assault gun, the WZ301 is an export-only vehicle of Mainland China made by the NORINCO Factory 256 at Chongqing. The most noticeable differences from the PTL02 are the newly-designed welded turret that somewhat resembles the [[ZTZ96A]] in terms of the arrowhead shape, and the replacement of the original 100 mm smoothbore gun with a standard 105 mm rifled gun. This assault gun saw service in different African countries and in Myanmar, serving as a quick-response assault gun for the buyers and a fast-moving addition to their inventory.

Anyone familiar with the PTL02 can adjust to the WMA301 easily. It is a very similar vehicle for the most part, the main difference lying in its armament. The 105 mm rifled gun has a similar ammunition selection to the [[T-69 II G]] with a new addition being the GP105 gun-launched ATGM. The WMA301's APFSDS is less potent that the PTL02's top round, but it has access to a proximity fused HE round for fending off helicopters and a powerful tandem-warhead ATGM for defeating heavy targets, making it a very versatile vehicle. With good positioning and situational awareness, the WMA301 can contribute in almost any situation.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}


Both the WMA301 and its cousin the PTL02 share the very same WZ551 chassis, the WMA301 only having very slight modifications to the fighting compartment. So the WMA301 shares the same flaw of being very lightly-armoured hull: avoid anything with a HMG or any autocannon vehicles (including aircraft) at all costs, because it is very likely you will not have a second chance to return fire and knock the enemy out. On close inspection, it can be seen that WMA301's hull armour uses high-hardness armour in some areas instead of standard RHA, but considering that the plates are still identically thin to the PTL02's, the improvement in protection is negligible.

Also, its overall height is still high, so it will easily be spotted by enemies albeit with the combination of thin armour and large, empty volume will occasionally frustrate enemies firing subcalibre rounds. Penetration is essentially guaranteed, but minimal spalling is created and a hastily aimed shot may not catch many crew members or important modules in the line of fire. On the other hand, HE shells with a high explosive mass will often transmit shockwaves into the vehicle's interior and knock out the crew with overpressure damage. Other chemical rounds like HEAT and HESH might inflict overpressure damage but with a much lower probability. Bombs, rockets, and artillery shells are similarly dangerous.

The WMA301's turret is slightly more resilient than the PTL02's from the front. The turret face is made of high-hardness RHA and the arrowhead shape leads to greater sloping. This does not make a significant difference in practice; at best, it might shrug off some light autocannon fire at a distance.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour
* High-hardness rolled armour
* Cast homogeneous armour

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 10 mm (33°) ''Driver viewport glacis'' 10 mm (78°) ''Upper Glacis'' 10 mm (40°) ''Lower Glacis'' || 8 mm (25°) ''Top'' 10 mm (6°) ''Bottom'' 8 mm (27°) ''Wheel wells'' || 6 mm (4°) ''Upper plate'' 6 mm (48°) ''Lower glacis'' || 10 mm (12°) ''Front glacis'' 6 mm ''Driver hatch'' 6 mm'' Centre''
|-
| Turret || 30 mm (54°) ''Upper turret front'' 30 mm (30°) ''Lower turret front'' 30 mm (0°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 20 mm (21°) ''Frontal'' 20 mm (4°) ''Rear'' || 15 mm (5°) || 10 mm (12°) 10 mm (13°) ''Centre''
|-
| Cupola || colspan="3" | 10 mm (cylindrical) || 10 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


* 5 mm structural steel storage boxes covering the turret rear
* Lower hull sides, driver viewport glacis, lower glacis, driver's compartment cupolas, rear turret side armour, rear hull armour, and turret front consist of high-hardness RHA
* Gun mantlet consists of cast homogeneous armour
* Wheels are 10 mm thick

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=496|rbMinHp=283}}

Since the WMA301 is essentially a PTL02 with a different turret, the whole power train and the suspension system are totally the same as the latter, powered by the same Deutz DBF8L413F and ZF 5S-111GPA transmission, so they share the same top speed at 85 km/h and the subpar reverse at -7 km/h. Surprisingly, it has the same weight as the PTL02 despite the new features.

Like its domestic cousin, to make the most out of the good top speed, it will need to navigate on hard terrain (roads, urban surfaces) for best results. If players must be used on hilly and soft terrain maps, try your best not to get stuck since the lack of mobility will absolutely be the death sentence of this vehicle.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|WMA301 (105 mm)}}

Since the WMA301 is an export vehicle and the compatibility to mainstream ammunitions is essential, it chose a 105 mm gun as its main armament; based on the ZPL94 gun found on T-69 II G but with lower recoil. It can fires both NATO and NORINCO's 105 mm ammunitions ranging from HEATFS to APFSDS, as well as HE-VT rounds.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[WMA301 (105 mm)|105 mm WMA301]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 30 || rowspan="2" | -4°/+18° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 24.8 || 34.3 || 41.6 || 46.0 || 48.9 || rowspan="2" | 8.71 || rowspan="2" | 7.70 || rowspan="2" | 7.10 || rowspan="2" | 6.70
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 15.5 || 18.2 || 22.1 || 24.4 || 26.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Type-83 HEAT || HEATFS || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400
|-
| DTB-1 || HE-VT* || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21
|-
| Type-83 HESH || HESH || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127
|-
| GP105 || ATGM (tandem) || 750 || 750 || 750 || 750 || 750 || 750
|-
| Type-83 APDS || APFSDS || 337 || 335 || 330 || 322 || 314 || 306
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| Type-83 HEAT || HEATFS || 1,173 || 11 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 1,270 || 65° || 72° || 77°
|-
| DTB-1 || HE-VT* || 825 || 16.2 || 0 || 0.1 || 1,660 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Type-83 HESH || HESH || 730 || 15 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 4,310 || 73° || 77° || 80°
|-
| GP105 || ATGM (tandem) || 370 || 18.8 || 0.4 || 0.1 || 4,620 || 80° || 82° || 90°
|-
| Type-83 APDS || APFSDS || 1,455 || 3.79 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

During the late 1990s, Mainland China has acquired 100 mm gun-launched ATGM technologies from Russia, so the WMA301 also comes with a powerful GP105 tandem ATGM which owners of [[BMP-3]] may find familiar. The statistics are identical to the 9M117M1 Bastion: good travel speed, high TNT equivalent mass, and a tandem warhead for bypassing ERA. Thankfully, the WMA301 does not suffer from the BMP-3's massive reload penalty for ATGMs. The GP105's whopping 750 mm of penetration it can take down practically anything it will ever meet at its BR. This is less than the [[ZBD86]]'s HJ-73E ATGM, but still more than generous - even high-tier Soviet behemoths like the [[T-64B]] or [[T-72B]], featuring ERA and strong composite armour, can be defeated by GP105. As a beam-riding missile, the GP105 is immune to IRCM and can be guided on the move if necessary.

The Type 83 APFSDS round is the same as found on the [[ZTZ59D1]] and shares all traits of it, which is still sufficient for its BR but it might struggle when it faces Russian MBTs with higher protection at longer ranges. For example, a fully spaded [[T-72A]] with the add-on armour can be difficult to penetrate outside of the standard Soviet weak spots of the driver's port and lower glacis, whereas the PTL02's DYW PT86-100 round can penetrate the T-72's hull quite easily. The APFSDS is still the best all-purpose round since it has a high muzzle velocity and is a kinetic projectile that will not be disrupted by bushes, fences, and contemporary ERA.

The Type 83 HEAT-FS round is nothing special, only having very slight improvements over the Type 1973 HEAT-FS used by the PTL02. Against most targets it is simply less useful than the APFSDS. HESH rounds have low penetration and poor ballistics, successful impacts creating wide but shallow sprays of spalling. The HEAT-FS and HESH rounds are generally obsolete, as their only advantages over the APFSDS are their ability to cause overpressure damage through their explosive content, but the aforementioned GP105 can perform the same role as well; in fact, GP105 has a higher TNT equivalent than both the HEAT-FS and HESH. Using HESH rounds as an last-ditch option to knock out hull down vehicles by splashing turret roofs might occasionally be viable.

Last but not least is the DTB-1 HE-VT round, seen previously on the T-69 II G. Although it is useful to deal with helicopters or low-flying aircraft in very shallow dives, this should be done with caution since anything that flies is the last thing the WMA301 wants to face. For anti-helicopter duties, locate the target using the WMA301's thermal sights, lase them with the laser rangefinder, and fire the round with enough lead to catch them comfortably within the proximity fuse radius. Keep in mind that DTB-1 has a rather low muzzle velocity and it is difficult to hit helicopters that are moving unpredictably and/or staying at long range. Actual aircraft are difficult to hit since the WMA301 doesn't have as much gun elevation as a proper SPAA. Serious anti-air duties are best left to the [[WZ305]] or [[PGZ09]].

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''30''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|QJC88A (12.7 mm)|Type 86 (7.62 mm)}}

The turret-mounted 12.7 mm QJC88A HMG has already become the standardized HMG for most PLAGF vehicles after the 1990s and this exported assault gun was no exception. The main usage of the HMG is to deal with lightly protected vehicles and low-flying aircraft including helicopters. It can also effectively damage gun barrels, tracks, optics, MG, and ERA to assist teammates in destroying enemies, though this may require a lot of fire. Players who dealt with the paltry 50-round belt capacity of the 12.7 mm DShK machine guns of previous PLA vehicles will be happy to know that the QJC88A has a much more generous 150-round belt capacity.

The 7.62 mm MG, on the other hand, is only useful in clearing obstacles such as fences, marking out enemy positions on the minimap, or knocking out exposed crew on certain vehicles (eg. M113 TOW). It lacks the penetration to pierce through even lightly armoured vehicles.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[QJC88A (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm QJC88A]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Pintle || 500 (150) || 700 || -3°/+60° || ±180°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 86 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm Type 86]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 800 (250) || 700 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

Like its domestic cousin, the WMA301's main advantages lie in its mobility and gun sight.

With its 85 km/h speed, flanking is the key to avoid any direct fire from pretty much any vehicle armed with at least a heavy machine gun. Because of the negligible protection found on this vehicle, take all precautions and avoid rushing into direct fire at all costs, you will not have the luxury of having the second chance to return fire. Being one of the slowest wheeled assault guns in the game, taking vantage points might not be possible considering the inferior top speed that only gets worse in off-road situations. The thin armour and poor reverse speed punish poor positioning, so think carefully about what spots allow the WMA301 to spot and engage enemies without being overly exposed to incoming fire. Complicated terrains are problematic for this vehicle and it tends to do better in urban combat. Any aircraft is a lethal threat, with either guns or rockets, so keep away from their sight. Use smoke grenades to mask your position if there are no buildings or other forms of large cover to hide behind. Helicopters in particular will have an easy time spotting and destroying the WMA301, so do not attract their attention and make use of the heavy machine gun, gun-launched ATGM, and as a last ditch, HE-VT if they get very close.

Whatever the situation, APFSDS and ATGM are a must for the WMA301 and they come with the tank as it is a premium vehicle. The Type 83 APFSDS can handle most targets at its BR and anything else with ERA or strong composite armour can be dealt with by the ATGM. With the same 2nd generation thermal gunner's sight and a laser rangefinder found on the PTL02, being a mid-field runner for hit-and-run attacks or staying behind and sniping careless targets are both viable roles for the WMA301.

;Enemies worth noting

* [[Rooikat Mk.1D|Rooikat]], [[Centauro (Family)|Centauro]], [[M1128]]: these wheeled vehicles perform a similar flanking role on the battlefield. Therefore you will often encounter them while flanking or on your way to flank. These vehicles are generally faster, both forwards and backwards, have better gun depression or better optics/ammo, so they may already be at a cap point before you. If this is the case, ambush around their location and passively hunt them down, as the WMA301's rather slow acceleration and bad reverse prevents it from being offensive in terms of mobility. The Rooikat lacks thermal sights, making it easier to spot and destroy preemptively. The M1128 has an unmanned turret, good thermal sights for all crew members, and slat armour that occasionally interferes with HEAT-FS rounds. A well placed APFSDS round to the turret or crew compartment may be able to knock them out instantly, but if they survive, a follow-up ATGM should be able to finish the job.

* [[AMX-10RC]]: a contemporary French 6x6 wheeled light tank armed with a 105 mm gun, APFSDS rounds, and thermal sights for the gunner. The AMX-10RC has a rather low profile compared to other wheeled tanks and can be a dangerous sniper. Unlike the other wheeled vehicles mentioned previously, the AMX-10RC does not have any sort of gun stabilizer. Try to attack it when it is on the move and cannot shoot accurately.

* [[Gepard]], [[Type 87]], [[M3 Bradley]], [[BMP-2]], etc.: these vehicles are fast and armed with fully-stabilized autocannons that will very easily rip through the WMA301. Keep a safe distance and try to ambush them.

* [[Dardo]], [[M3A3 Bradley]]: these IFVs can sling a pair of powerful top-attack TOW-2B ATGMs that can easily destroy the WMA301 even if it is hiding behind cover. The TOW-2B also has 4.10 kg of TNT equivalent and a 3 m proxmity fuse, which is very bad news - the operator only needs to send a TOW-2B in the WMA301's general location to trigger lethal overpressure damage. The Dardo is particularly dangerous since it does not need to deploy its launcher before firing and has a very quick autocannon that can mow down the WMA301 down in a heartbeat. If these IFVs are on the field, hang back and be very cautious, only attacking when they are distracted. If they become aware of your position, immediately deploy smoke grenades and retreat as quickly as possible behind tall terrain features.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Deadly 105 mm cannon with high velocity, adequate rate of fire and great accuracy
* Gen 2 gunner thermal greatly enhances search-and-destroy ability
* Various ammunition: from APFSDS to unique HE-VT to gun-launched tandem ATGM
* Superior tandem ATGM carrier (can fire on the move, with a short reload time and can carry a high number of ATGMs)
* Competitive top speed on hard surfaces
* Roof-mounted HMG is lethal against helicopters and light vehicles (eg. M113)
* 2 salvos of smoke grenades provide helpful concealment
* Turn radius is quite small for a wheeled vehicle, beneficial in urban areas
* Has laser rangefinder to assist long-range shooting

'''Cons:'''

* Abysmal reverse speed of only -7 km/h, fatally slow for a wheeled vehicle
* Poor agility on soft terrain like mud, sand and snow
* Poor gun depression
* Bouncy suspension, hard to aim when driving on rough terrain
* Extremely thin hull armour, can be easily penetrated by 12.7 mm HMG fire
* Tall profile, easy to get spotted and shot at
* APFSDS is less powerful at ranges exceeding 2,000m and will struggle to penetrate well-protected tanks (eg. [[T-62M-1]], [[T-72A]])

== History ==

In the early 1980s, the Factory 256 (currently known as NORINCO Chongqing Tiema Industrial Cooperation) started their version of a domestic wheeled APC program coded WZ551. The factory decided to built the APC based on Mercedes-Benz 2026 off-road truck which has just been introduced into Mainland China, the program didn't go well as they decided later on to make major changes to the propulsion system and therefore the WZ551 was delayed. This delay caused the withdrawn of funding from the 7th 5-year project and Factory 256 needed to export this APC in order to recoup their investment. However, in 1986, the prototype of the WZ551 was approved by the PLAGF and was selected as their future wheeled APC. It was approved for production in 1988 and designated as ZSL90 and later ZSL92 with improved propulsion. The WZ551A chassis was then designed to mount different weaponry ranging from riot-suppression equipment, mortar, IFV turret and anti-tank weaponry.

Two decades after its introduction, based on the [[PTL02]] wheeled assault gun, NORINCO introduced a version of it with an improved turret and new low-recoil 105 mm gun for potential customers with needs for a fire-support vehicle with mobility. First sold to Myanmar in early 2010s, this wheeled assault gun was then exported to different Asian/African countries, serving as their quick response vehicle in heated conflict zones.

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WMA301

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}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]].

Based on the same WZ551 chassis, Chinese reproduction of the French VAB, as the ZSL-92 APC and the [[PTL02]] assault gun, the WZ301 is an export-only vehicle of Mainland China made by the NORINCO Factory 256 at Chongqing. The most noticeable differences from the PTL02 are the newly-designed welded turret that somewhat resembles the [[ZTZ96A]] in terms of the arrowhead shape, and the replacement of the original 100 mm smoothbore gun with a standard 105 mm rifled gun. This assault gun saw service in different African countries and in Myanmar, serving as a quick-response assault gun for the buyers and a fast-moving addition to their inventory.

Anyone familiar with the PTL02 can adjust to the WMA301 easily. It is a very similar vehicle for the most part, the main difference lying in its armament. The 105 mm rifled gun has a similar ammunition selection to the [[T-69 II G]] with a new addition being the GP105 gun-launched ATGM. The WMA301's APFSDS is less potent that the PTL02's top round, but it has access to a proximity fused HE round for fending off helicopters and a powerful tandem-warhead ATGM for defeating heavy targets, making it a very versatile vehicle. With good positioning and situational awareness, the WMA301 can contribute in almost any situation.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}


Both the WMA301 and its cousin the PTL02 share the very same WZ551 chassis, the WMA301 only having very slight modifications to the fighting compartment. So the WMA301 shares the same flaw of being very lightly-armoured hull: avoid anything with a HMG or any autocannon vehicles (including aircraft) at all costs, because it is very likely you will not have a second chance to return fire and knock the enemy out. On close inspection, it can be seen that WMA301's hull armour uses high-hardness armour in some areas instead of standard RHA, but considering that the plates are still identically thin to the PTL02's, the improvement in protection is negligible.

Also, its overall height is still high, so it will easily be spotted by enemies albeit with the combination of thin armour and large, empty volume will occasionally frustrate enemies firing subcalibre rounds. Penetration is essentially guaranteed, but minimal spalling is created and a hastily aimed shot may not catch many crew members or important modules in the line of fire. On the other hand, HE shells with a high explosive mass will often transmit shockwaves into the vehicle's interior and knock out the crew with overpressure damage. Other chemical rounds like HEAT and HESH might inflict overpressure damage but with a much lower probability. Bombs, rockets, and artillery shells are similarly dangerous.

The WMA301's turret is slightly more resilient than the PTL02's from the front. The turret face is made of high-hardness RHA and the arrowhead shape leads to greater sloping. This does not make a significant difference in practice; at best, it might shrug off some light autocannon fire at a distance.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour
* High-hardness rolled armour
* Cast homogeneous armour

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 10 mm (33°) ''Driver viewport glacis'' 10 mm (78°) ''Upper Glacis'' 10 mm (40°) ''Lower Glacis'' || 8 mm (25°) ''Top'' 10 mm (6°) ''Bottom'' 8 mm (27°) ''Wheel wells'' || 6 mm (4°) ''Upper plate'' 6 mm (48°) ''Lower glacis'' || 10 mm (12°) ''Front glacis'' 6 mm ''Driver hatch'' 6 mm'' Centre''
|-
| Turret || 30 mm (54°) ''Upper turret front'' 30 mm (30°) ''Lower turret front'' 30 mm (0°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 20 mm (21°) ''Frontal'' 20 mm (4°) ''Rear'' || 15 mm (5°) || 10 mm (12°) 10 mm (13°) ''Centre''
|-
| Cupola || colspan="3" | 10 mm (cylindrical) || 10 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


* 5 mm structural steel storage boxes covering the turret rear
* Lower hull sides, driver viewport glacis, lower glacis, driver's compartment cupolas, rear turret side armour, rear hull armour, and turret front consist of high-hardness RHA
* Gun mantlet consists of cast homogeneous armour
* Wheels are 10 mm thick

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=496|rbMinHp=283}}

Since the WMA301 is essentially a PTL02 with a different turret, the whole power train and the suspension system are totally the same as the latter, powered by the same Deutz DBF8L413F and ZF 5S-111GPA transmission, so they share the same top speed at 85 km/h and the subpar reverse at -7 km/h. Surprisingly, it has the same weight as the PTL02 despite the new features.

Like its domestic cousin, to make the most out of the good top speed, it will need to navigate on hard terrain (roads, urban surfaces) for best results. If players must be used on hilly and soft terrain maps, try your best not to get stuck since the lack of mobility will absolutely be the death sentence of this vehicle.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|WMA301 (105 mm)}}

Since the WMA301 is an export vehicle and the compatibility to mainstream ammunitions is essential, it chose a 105 mm gun as its main armament; based on the ZPL94 gun found on T-69 II G but with lower recoil. It can fires both NATO and NORINCO's 105 mm ammunitions ranging from HEATFS to APFSDS, as well as HE-VT rounds.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[WMA301 (105 mm)|105 mm WMA301]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 30 || rowspan="2" | -4°/+18° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 24.8 || 34.3 || 41.6 || 46.0 || 48.9 || rowspan="2" | 8.71 || rowspan="2" | 7.70 || rowspan="2" | 7.10 || rowspan="2" | 6.70
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 15.5 || 18.2 || 22.1 || 24.4 || 26.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Type-83 HEAT || HEATFS || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400
|-
| DTB-1 || HE-VT* || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21
|-
| Type-83 HESH || HESH || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127
|-
| GP105 || ATGM (tandem) || 750 || 750 || 750 || 750 || 750 || 750
|-
| Type-83 APDS || APFSDS || 337 || 335 || 330 || 322 || 314 || 306
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| Type-83 HEAT || HEATFS || 1,173 || 11 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 1,270 || 65° || 72° || 77°
|-
| DTB-1 || HE-VT* || 825 || 16.2 || 0 || 0.1 || 1,660 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Type-83 HESH || HESH || 730 || 15 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 4,310 || 73° || 77° || 80°
|-
| GP105 || ATGM (tandem) || 370 || 18.8 || 0.4 || 0.1 || 4,620 || 80° || 82° || 90°
|-
| Type-83 APDS || APFSDS || 1,455 || 3.79 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

During the late 1990s, Mainland China has acquired 100 mm gun-launched ATGM technologies from Russia, so the WMA301 also comes with a powerful GP105 tandem ATGM which owners of [[BMP-3]] may find familiar. The statistics are identical to the 9M117M1 Bastion: good travel speed, high TNT equivalent mass, and a tandem warhead for bypassing ERA. Thankfully, the WMA301 does not suffer from the BMP-3's massive reload penalty for ATGMs. The GP105's whopping 750 mm of penetration it can take down practically anything it will ever meet at its BR. This is less than the [[ZBD86]]'s HJ-73E ATGM, but still more than generous - even high-tier Soviet behemoths like the [[T-64B]] or [[T-72B]], featuring ERA and strong composite armour, can be defeated by GP105. As a beam-riding missile, the GP105 is immune to IRCM and can be guided on the move if necessary.

The Type 83 APFSDS round is the same as found on the [[ZTZ59D1]] and shares all traits of it, which is still sufficient for its BR but it might struggle when it faces Russian MBTs with higher protection at longer ranges. For example, a fully spaded [[T-72A]] with the add-on armour can be difficult to penetrate outside of the standard Soviet weak spots of the driver's port and lower glacis, whereas the PTL02's DYW PT86-100 round can penetrate the T-72's hull quite easily. The APFSDS is still the best all-purpose round since it has a high muzzle velocity and is a kinetic projectile that will not be disrupted by bushes, fences, and contemporary ERA.

The Type 83 HEAT-FS round is nothing special, only having very slight improvements over the Type 1973 HEAT-FS used by the PTL02. Against most targets it is simply less useful than the APFSDS. HESH rounds have low penetration and poor ballistics, successful impacts creating wide but shallow sprays of spalling. The HEAT-FS and HESH rounds are generally obsolete, as their only advantages over the APFSDS are their ability to cause overpressure damage through their explosive content, but the aforementioned GP105 can perform the same role as well; in fact, GP105 has a higher TNT equivalent than both the HEAT-FS and HESH. Using HESH rounds as an last-ditch option to knock out hull down vehicles by splashing turret roofs might occasionally be viable.

Last but not least is the DTB-1 HE-VT round, seen previously on the T-69 II G. Although it is useful to deal with helicopters or low-flying aircraft in very shallow dives, this should be done with caution since anything that flies is the last thing the WMA301 wants to face. For anti-helicopter duties, locate the target using the WMA301's thermal sights, lase them with the laser rangefinder, and fire the round with enough lead to catch them comfortably within the proximity fuse radius. Keep in mind that DTB-1 has a rather low muzzle velocity and it is difficult to hit helicopters that are moving unpredictably and/or staying at long range. Actual aircraft are difficult to hit since the WMA301 doesn't have as much gun elevation as a proper SPAA. Serious anti-air duties are best left to the [[WZ305]] or [[PGZ09]].

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''30''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|QJC88A (12.7 mm)|Type 86 (7.62 mm)}}

The turret-mounted 12.7 mm QJC88A HMG has already become the standardized HMG for most PLAGF vehicles after the 1990s and this exported assault gun was no exception. The main usage of the HMG is to deal with lightly protected vehicles and low-flying aircraft including helicopters. It can also effectively damage gun barrels, tracks, optics, MG, and ERA to assist teammates in destroying enemies, though this may require a lot of fire. Players who dealt with the paltry 50-round belt capacity of the 12.7 mm DShK machine guns of previous PLA vehicles will be happy to know that the QJC88A has a much more generous 150-round belt capacity.

The 7.62 mm MG, on the other hand, is only useful in clearing obstacles such as fences, marking out enemy positions on the minimap, or knocking out exposed crew on certain vehicles (eg. M113 TOW). It lacks the penetration to pierce through even lightly armoured vehicles.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[QJC88A (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm QJC88A]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Pintle || 500 (150) || 700 || -3°/+60° || ±180°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 86 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm Type 86]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 800 (250) || 700 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

Like its domestic cousin, the WMA301's main advantages lie in its mobility and gun sight.

With its 85 km/h speed, flanking is the key to avoid any direct fire from pretty much any vehicle armed with at least a heavy machine gun. Because of the negligible protection found on this vehicle, take all precautions and avoid rushing into direct fire at all costs, you will not have the luxury of having the second chance to return fire. Being one of the slowest wheeled assault guns in the game, taking vantage points might not be possible considering the inferior top speed that only gets worse in off-road situations. The thin armour and poor reverse speed punish poor positioning, so think carefully about what spots allow the WMA301 to spot and engage enemies without being overly exposed to incoming fire. Complicated terrains are problematic for this vehicle and it tends to do better in urban combat. Any aircraft is a lethal threat, with either guns or rockets, so keep away from their sight. Use smoke grenades to mask your position if there are no buildings or other forms of large cover to hide behind. Helicopters in particular will have an easy time spotting and destroying the WMA301, so do not attract their attention and make use of the heavy machine gun, gun-launched ATGM, and as a last ditch, HE-VT if they get very close.

Whatever the situation, APFSDS and ATGM are a must for the WMA301 and they come with the tank as it is a premium vehicle. The Type 83 APFSDS can handle most targets at its BR and anything else with ERA or strong composite armour can be dealt with by the ATGM. With the same 2nd generation thermal gunner's sight and a laser rangefinder found on the PTL02, being a mid-field runner for hit-and-run attacks or staying behind and sniping careless targets are both viable roles for the WMA301.

;Enemies worth noting

* [[Rooikat Mk.1D|Rooikat]], [[Centauro (Family)|Centauro]], [[M1128]]: these wheeled vehicles perform a similar flanking role on the battlefield. Therefore you will often encounter them while flanking or on your way to flank. These vehicles are generally faster, both forwards and backwards, have better gun depression or better optics/ammo, so they may already be at a cap point before you. If this is the case, ambush around their location and passively hunt them down, as the WMA301's rather slow acceleration and bad reverse prevents it from being offensive in terms of mobility. The Rooikat lacks thermal sights, making it easier to spot and destroy preemptively. The M1128 has an unmanned turret, good thermal sights for all crew members, and slat armour that occasionally interferes with HEAT-FS rounds. A well placed APFSDS round to the turret or crew compartment may be able to knock them out instantly, but if they survive, a follow-up ATGM should be able to finish the job.

* [[AMX-10RC]]: a contemporary French 6x6 wheeled light tank armed with a 105 mm gun, APFSDS rounds, and thermal sights for the gunner. The AMX-10RC has a rather low profile compared to other wheeled tanks and can be a dangerous sniper. Unlike the other wheeled vehicles mentioned previously, the AMX-10RC does not have any sort of gun stabilizer. Try to attack it when it is on the move and cannot shoot accurately.

* [[Gepard]], [[Type 87]], [[M3 Bradley]], [[BMP-2]], etc.: these vehicles are fast and armed with fully-stabilized autocannons that will very easily rip through the WMA301. Keep a safe distance and try to ambush them.

* [[Dardo]], [[M3A3 Bradley]]: these IFVs can sling a pair of powerful top-attack TOW-2B ATGMs that can easily destroy the WMA301 even if it is hiding behind cover. The TOW-2B also has 4.10 kg of TNT equivalent and a 3 m proxmity fuse, which is very bad news - the operator only needs to send a TOW-2B in the WMA301's general location to trigger lethal overpressure damage. The Dardo is particularly dangerous since it does not need to deploy its launcher before firing and has a very quick autocannon that can mow down the WMA301 down in a heartbeat. If these IFVs are on the field, hang back and be very cautious, only attacking when they are distracted. If they become aware of your position, immediately deploy smoke grenades and retreat as quickly as possible behind tall terrain features.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Deadly 105 mm cannon with high velocity, adequate rate of fire and great accuracy
* Gen 2 gunner thermal greatly enhances search-and-destroy ability
* Various ammunition: from APFSDS to unique HE-VT to gun-launched tandem ATGM
* Superior tandem ATGM carrier (can fire on the move, with a short reload time and can carry a high number of ATGMs)
* Competitive top speed on hard surfaces
* Roof-mounted HMG is lethal against helicopters and light vehicles (eg. M113)
* 2 salvos of smoke grenades provide helpful concealment
* Turn radius is quite small for a wheeled vehicle, beneficial in urban areas
* Has laser rangefinder to assist long-range shooting

'''Cons:'''

* Abysmal reverse speed of only -7 km/h, fatally slow for a wheeled vehicle
* Poor agility on soft terrain like mud, sand and snow
* Poor gun depression
* Bouncy suspension, hard to aim when driving on rough terrain
* Extremely thin hull armour, can be easily penetrated by 12.7 mm HMG fire
* Tall profile, easy to get spotted and shot at
* APFSDS is less powerful at ranges exceeding 2,000m and will struggle to penetrate well-protected tanks (eg. [[T-62M-1]], [[T-72A]])

== History ==

In the early 1980s, the Factory 256 (currently known as NORINCO Chongqing Tiema Industrial Cooperation) started their version of a domestic wheeled APC program coded WZ551. The factory decided to built the APC based on Mercedes-Benz 2026 off-road truck which has just been introduced into Mainland China, the program didn't go well as they decided later on to make major changes to the propulsion system and therefore the WZ551 was delayed. This delay caused the withdrawn of funding from the 7th 5-year project and Factory 256 needed to export this APC in order to recoup their investment. However, in 1986, the prototype of the WZ551 was approved by the PLAGF and was selected as their future wheeled APC. It was approved for production in 1988 and designated as ZSL90 and later ZSL92 with improved propulsion. The WZ551A chassis was then designed to mount different weaponry ranging from riot-suppression equipment, mortar, IFV turret and anti-tank weaponry.

Two decades after its introduction, based on the [[PTL02]] wheeled assault gun, NORINCO introduced a version of it with an improved turret and new low-recoil 105 mm gun for potential customers with needs for a fire-support vehicle with mobility. First sold to Myanmar in early 2010s, this wheeled assault gun was then exported to different Asian/African countries, serving as their quick response vehicle in heated conflict zones.

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WMA301

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]].

Based on the same WZ551 chassis, Chinese copy of the French VAB, as the ZSL-92 APC and the [[PTL02]] assault gun, the WZ301 is an export-only vehicle of Mainland China made by the NORINCO Factory 256 at Chongqing. The most noticeable differences from the PTL02 are the newly-designed welded turret that somewhat resembles the [[ZTZ96A]] in terms of the arrowhead shape, and the replacement of the original 100 mm smoothbore gun with a standard 105 mm rifled gun. This assault gun saw service in different African countries and in Myanmar, serving as a quick-response assault gun for the buyers and a fast-moving addition to their inventory.

Anyone familiar with the PTL02 can adjust to the WMA301 easily. It is a very similar vehicle for the most part, the main difference lying in its armament. The 105 mm rifled gun has a similar ammunition selection to the [[T-69 II G]] with a new addition being the GP105 gun-launched ATGM. The WMA301's APFSDS is less potent that the PTL02's top round, but it has access to a proximity fused HE round for fending off helicopters and a powerful tandem-warhead ATGM for defeating heavy targets, making it a very versatile vehicle. With good positioning and situational awareness, the WMA301 can contribute in almost any situation.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}


Both the WMA301 and its cousin the PTL02 share the very same WZ551 chassis, the WMA301 only having very slight modifications to the fighting compartment. So the WMA301 shares the same flaw of being very lightly-armoured hull: avoid anything with a HMG or any autocannon vehicles (including aircraft) at all costs, because it is very likely you will not have a second chance to return fire and knock the enemy out. On close inspection, it can be seen that WMA301's hull armour uses high-hardness armour in some areas instead of standard RHA, but considering that the plates are still identically thin to the PTL02's, the improvement in protection is negligible.

Also, its overall height is still high, so it will easily be spotted by enemies albeit with the combination of thin armour and large, empty volume will occasionally frustrate enemies firing subcalibre rounds. Penetration is essentially guaranteed, but minimal spalling is created and a hastily aimed shot may not catch many crew members or important modules in the line of fire. On the other hand, HE shells with a high explosive mass will often transmit shockwaves into the vehicle's interior and knock out the crew with overpressure damage. Other chemical rounds like HEAT and HESH might inflict overpressure damage but with a much lower probability. Bombs, rockets, and artillery shells are similarly dangerous.

The WMA301's turret is slightly more resilient than the PTL02's from the front. The turret face is made of high-hardness RHA and the arrowhead shape leads to greater sloping. This does not make a significant difference in practice; at best, it might shrug off some light autocannon fire at a distance.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour
* High-hardness rolled armour
* Cast homogeneous armour

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 10 mm (33°) ''Driver viewport glacis'' 10 mm (78°) ''Upper Glacis'' 10 mm (40°) ''Lower Glacis'' || 8 mm (25°) ''Top'' 10 mm (6°) ''Bottom'' 8 mm (27°) ''Wheel wells'' || 6 mm (4°) ''Upper plate'' 6 mm (48°) ''Lower glacis'' || 10 mm (12°) ''Front glacis'' 6 mm ''Driver hatch'' 6 mm'' Centre''
|-
| Turret || 30 mm (54°) ''Upper turret front'' 30 mm (30°) ''Lower turret front'' 30 mm (0°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 20 mm (21°) ''Frontal'' 20 mm (4°) ''Rear'' || 15 mm (5°) || 10 mm (12°) 10 mm (13°) ''Centre''
|-
| Cupola || colspan="3" | 10 mm (cylindrical) || 10 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


* 5 mm structural steel storage boxes covering the turret rear
* Lower hull sides, driver viewport glacis, lower glacis, driver's compartment cupolas, rear turret side armour, rear hull armour, and turret front consist of high-hardness RHA
* Gun mantlet consists of cast homogeneous armour
* Wheels are 10 mm thick

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=496|rbMinHp=283}}

Since the WMA301 is essentially a PTL02 with a different turret, the whole power train and the suspension system are totally the same as the latter, powered by the same Deutz DBF8L413F and ZF 5S-111GPA transmission, so they share the same top speed at 85 km/h and the subpar reverse at -7 km/h. Surprisingly, it has the same weight as the PTL02 despite the new features.

Like its domestic cousin, to make the most out of the good top speed, it will need to navigate on hard terrain (roads, urban surfaces) for best results. If players must be used on hilly and soft terrain maps, try your best not to get stuck since the lack of mobility will absolutely be the death sentence of this vehicle.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|WMA301 (105 mm)}}

Since the WMA301 is an export vehicle and the compatibility to mainstream ammunitions is essential, it chose a 105 mm gun as its main armament; based on the ZPL94 gun found on T-69 II G but with lower recoil. It can fires both NATO and NORINCO's 105 mm ammunitions ranging from HEATFS to APFSDS, as well as HE-VT rounds.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[WMA301 (105 mm)|105 mm WMA301]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 30 || rowspan="2" | -4°/+18° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 24.8 || 34.3 || 41.6 || 46.0 || 48.9 || rowspan="2" | 8.71 || rowspan="2" | 7.70 || rowspan="2" | 7.10 || rowspan="2" | 6.70
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 15.5 || 18.2 || 22.1 || 24.4 || 26.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Type-83 HEAT || HEATFS || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400
|-
| DTB-1 || HE-VT* || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21
|-
| Type-83 HESH || HESH || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127
|-
| GP105 || ATGM (tandem) || 750 || 750 || 750 || 750 || 750 || 750
|-
| Type-83 APDS || APFSDS || 337 || 335 || 330 || 322 || 314 || 306
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| Type-83 HEAT || HEATFS || 1,173 || 11 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 1,270 || 65° || 72° || 77°
|-
| DTB-1 || HE-VT* || 825 || 16.2 || 0 || 0.1 || 1,660 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Type-83 HESH || HESH || 730 || 15 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 4,310 || 73° || 77° || 80°
|-
| GP105 || ATGM (tandem) || 370 || 18.8 || 0.4 || 0.1 || 4,620 || 80° || 82° || 90°
|-
| Type-83 APDS || APFSDS || 1,455 || 3.79 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

During the late 1990s, Mainland China has acquired 100 mm gun-launched ATGM technologies from Russia, so the WMA301 also comes with a powerful GP105 tandem ATGM which owners of [[BMP-3]] may find familiar. The statistics are identical to the 9M117M1 Bastion: good travel speed, high TNT equivalent mass, and a tandem warhead for bypassing ERA. Thankfully, the WMA301 does not suffer from the BMP-3's massive reload penalty for ATGMs. The GP105's whopping 750 mm of penetration it can take down practically anything it will ever meet at its BR. This is less than the [[ZBD86]]'s HJ-73E ATGM, but still more than generous - even high-tier Soviet behemoths like the [[T-64B]] or [[T-72B]], featuring ERA and strong composite armour, can be defeated by GP105. As a beam-riding missile, the GP105 is immune to IRCM and can be guided on the move if necessary.

The Type 83 APFSDS round is the same as found on the [[ZTZ59D1]] and shares all traits of it, which is still sufficient for its BR but it might struggle when it faces Russian MBTs with higher protection at longer ranges. For example, a fully spaded [[T-72A]] with the add-on armour can be difficult to penetrate outside of the standard Soviet weak spots of the driver's port and lower glacis, whereas the PTL02's DYW PT86-100 round can penetrate the T-72's hull quite easily. The APFSDS is still the best all-purpose round since it has a high muzzle velocity and is a kinetic projectile that will not be disrupted by bushes, fences, and contemporary ERA.

The Type 83 HEAT-FS round is nothing special, only having very slight improvements over the Type 1973 HEAT-FS used by the PTL02. Against most targets it is simply less useful than the APFSDS. HESH rounds have low penetration and poor ballistics, successful impacts creating wide but shallow sprays of spalling. The HEAT-FS and HESH rounds are generally obsolete, as their only advantages over the APFSDS are their ability to cause overpressure damage through their explosive content, but the aforementioned GP105 can perform the same role as well; in fact, GP105 has a higher TNT equivalent than both the HEAT-FS and HESH. Using HESH rounds as an last-ditch option to knock out hull down vehicles by splashing turret roofs might occasionally be viable.

Last but not least is the DTB-1 HE-VT round, seen previously on the T-69 II G. Although it is useful to deal with helicopters or low-flying aircraft in very shallow dives, this should be done with caution since anything that flies is the last thing the WMA301 wants to face. For anti-helicopter duties, locate the target using the WMA301's thermal sights, lase them with the laser rangefinder, and fire the round with enough lead to catch them comfortably within the proximity fuse radius. Keep in mind that DTB-1 has a rather low muzzle velocity and it is difficult to hit helicopters that are moving unpredictably and/or staying at long range. Actual aircraft are difficult to hit since the WMA301 doesn't have as much gun elevation as a proper SPAA. Serious anti-air duties are best left to the [[WZ305]] or [[PGZ09]].

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''30''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|QJC88A (12.7 mm)|Type 86 (7.62 mm)}}

The turret-mounted 12.7 mm QJC88A HMG has already become the standardized HMG for most PLAGF vehicles after the 1990s and this exported assault gun was no exception. The main usage of the HMG is to deal with lightly protected vehicles and low-flying aircraft including helicopters. It can also effectively damage gun barrels, tracks, optics, MG, and ERA to assist teammates in destroying enemies, though this may require a lot of fire. Players who dealt with the paltry 50-round belt capacity of the 12.7 mm DShK machine guns of previous PLA vehicles will be happy to know that the QJC88A has a much more generous 150-round belt capacity.

The 7.62 mm MG, on the other hand, is only useful in clearing obstacles such as fences, marking out enemy positions on the minimap, or knocking out exposed crew on certain vehicles (eg. M113 TOW). It lacks the penetration to pierce through even lightly armoured vehicles.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[QJC88A (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm QJC88A]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Pintle || 500 (150) || 700 || -3°/+60° || ±180°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 86 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm Type 86]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 800 (250) || 700 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

Like its domestic cousin, the WMA301's main advantages lie in its mobility and gun sight.

With its 85 km/h speed, flanking is the key to avoid any direct fire from pretty much any vehicle armed with at least a heavy machine gun. Because of the negligible protection found on this vehicle, take all precautions and avoid rushing into direct fire at all costs, you will not have the luxury of having the second chance to return fire. Being one of the slowest wheeled assault guns in the game, taking vantage points might not be possible considering the inferior top speed that only gets worse in off-road situations. The thin armour and poor reverse speed punish poor positioning, so think carefully about what spots allow the WMA301 to spot and engage enemies without being overly exposed to incoming fire. Complicated terrains are problematic for this vehicle and it tends to do better in urban combat. Any aircraft is a lethal threat, with either guns or rockets, so keep away from their sight. Use smoke grenades to mask your position if there are no buildings or other forms of large cover to hide behind. Helicopters in particular will have an easy time spotting and destroying the WMA301, so do not attract their attention and make use of the heavy machine gun, gun-launched ATGM, and as a last ditch, HE-VT if they get very close.

Whatever the situation, APFSDS and ATGM are a must for the WMA301 and they come with the tank as it is a premium vehicle. The Type 83 APFSDS can handle most targets at its BR and anything else with ERA or strong composite armour can be dealt with by the ATGM. With the same 2nd generation thermal gunner's sight and a laser rangefinder found on the PTL02, being a mid-field runner for hit-and-run attacks or staying behind and sniping careless targets are both viable roles for the WMA301.

;Enemies worth noting

* [[Rooikat Mk.1D|Rooikat]], [[Centauro (Family)|Centauro]], [[M1128]]: these wheeled vehicles perform a similar flanking role on the battlefield. Therefore you will often encounter them while flanking or on your way to flank. These vehicles are generally faster, both forwards and backwards, have better gun depression or better optics/ammo, so they may already be at a cap point before you. If this is the case, ambush around their location and passively hunt them down, as the WMA301's rather slow acceleration and bad reverse prevents it from being offensive in terms of mobility. The Rooikat lacks thermal sights, making it easier to spot and destroy preemptively. The M1128 has an unmanned turret, good thermal sights for all crew members, and slat armour that occasionally interferes with HEAT-FS rounds. A well placed APFSDS round to the turret or crew compartment may be able to knock them out instantly, but if they survive, a follow-up ATGM should be able to finish the job.

* [[AMX-10RC]]: a contemporary French 6x6 wheeled light tank armed with a 105 mm gun, APFSDS rounds, and thermal sights for the gunner. The AMX-10RC has a rather low profile compared to other wheeled tanks and can be a dangerous sniper. Unlike the other wheeled vehicles mentioned previously, the AMX-10RC does not have any sort of gun stabilizer. Try to attack it when it is on the move and cannot shoot accurately.

* [[Gepard]], [[Type 87]], [[M3 Bradley]], [[BMP-2]], etc.: these vehicles are fast and armed with fully-stabilized autocannons that will very easily rip through the WMA301. Keep a safe distance and try to ambush them.

* [[Dardo]], [[M3A3 Bradley]]: these IFVs can sling a pair of powerful top-attack TOW-2B ATGMs that can easily destroy the WMA301 even if it is hiding behind cover. The TOW-2B also has 4.10 kg of TNT equivalent and a 3 m proxmity fuse, which is very bad news - the operator only needs to send a TOW-2B in the WMA301's general location to trigger lethal overpressure damage. The Dardo is particularly dangerous since it does not need to deploy its launcher before firing and has a very quick autocannon that can mow down the WMA301 down in a heartbeat. If these IFVs are on the field, hang back and be very cautious, only attacking when they are distracted. If they become aware of your position, immediately deploy smoke grenades and retreat as quickly as possible behind tall terrain features.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Deadly 105 mm cannon with high velocity, adequate rate of fire and great accuracy
* Gen 2 gunner thermal greatly enhances search-and-destroy ability
* Various ammunition: from APFSDS to unique HE-VT to gun-launched tandem ATGM
* Superior tandem ATGM carrier (can fire on the move, with a short reload time and can carry a high number of ATGMs)
* Competitive top speed on hard surfaces
* Roof-mounted HMG is lethal against helicopters and light vehicles (eg. M113)
* 2 salvos of smoke grenades provide helpful concealment
* Turn radius is quite small for a wheeled vehicle, beneficial in urban areas
* Has laser rangefinder to assist long-range shooting

'''Cons:'''

* Abysmal reverse speed of only -7 km/h, fatally slow for a wheeled vehicle
* Poor agility on soft terrain like mud, sand and snow
* Poor gun depression
* Bouncy suspension, hard to aim when driving on rough terrain
* Extremely thin hull armour, can be easily penetrated by 12.7 mm HMG fire
* Tall profile, easy to get spotted and shot at
* APFSDS is less powerful at ranges exceeding 2,000m and will struggle to penetrate well-protected tanks (eg. [[T-62M-1]], [[T-72A]])

== History ==

In the early 1980s, the Factory 256 (currently known as NORINCO Chongqing Tiema Industrial Cooperation) started their version of a domestic wheeled APC program coded WZ551. The factory decided to built the APC based on Mercedes-Benz 2026 off-road truck which has just been introduced into Mainland China, the program didn't go well as they decided later on to make major changes to the propulsion system and therefore the WZ551 was delayed. This delay caused the withdrawn of funding from the 7th 5-year project and Factory 256 needed to export this APC in order to recoup their investment. However, in 1986, the prototype of the WZ551 was approved by the PLAGF and was selected as their future wheeled APC. It was approved for production in 1988 and designated as ZSL90 and later ZSL92 with improved propulsion. The WZ551A chassis was then designed to mount different weaponry ranging from riot-suppression equipment, mortar, IFV turret and anti-tank weaponry.

Two decades after its introduction, based on the [[PTL02]] wheeled assault gun, NORINCO introduced a version of it with an improved turret and new low-recoil 105 mm gun for potential customers with needs for a fire-support vehicle with mobility. First sold to Myanmar in early 2010s, this wheeled assault gun was then exported to different Asian/African countries, serving as their quick response vehicle in heated conflict zones.

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PTL02

2021-10-24T12:47:25Z

U84459403: Complementary information

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (Simplified Chinese: PTL02 轮式突击炮; lit. wheeled assault gun) is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]].

Based on the WZ551 6x6 chassis, Chinese copy of the French VAB, developed in early 1990s shared with the ZSL-92 armoured personnel carrier, this vehicle is also the very first wheeled assault gun of the Chinese tech tree. Having subpar speed compared to contemporary wheeled vehicles (at 85 km/h on road) and paperthin protection, it might not be a first rate flanker like the [[Centauro (Family)|Centauro]] or [[Rooikat Mk.1D]]. It is still significantly faster than all other PLAGF/ROCA vehicles for now. Armed with a high velocity 100 mm smoothbore anti-tank gun, its stock APFSDS can penetrate 220 mm of flat RHA at point-blank range and its unlockable DYW PT-86-100 APFSDS boasts up to 381 mm of penetration. This vehicle has thermal sights with acceptable resolution in addition to a laser rangefinder, which can be precious at its BR since they significantly speed up the seek and destroy process. The PTL02 is less forgiving than other wheeled light tanks, but despite its shortcomings in armour, it still offers valuable scouting and flanking abilities that complement other Chinese vehicles well.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}


One of the major drawbacks of this vehicle is the poor protection against any calibre bigger than 12.7 mm since only the turret has more than 20 mm of armour to stop heavy machine gun rounds from some range. Other than that, it's 5 to 10 mm of armour all around. Avoid anything with a HMG or any autocannon vehicles (including aircraft) at all costs, because it is very likely you will not have a second chance to return fire and knock the enemy out.

The PTL02's large profile (it is taller than a [[Leopard 2]]) does it no favours when it comes to avoiding fire, but the combination of thin armour and large, empty volume will occasionally frustrate enemies firing subcalibre rounds. Penetration is essentially guaranteed, but minimal spalling is created and a hastily aimed shot may not catch many crew members or important modules in the line of fire. On the other hand, HE shells with a high explosive mass will often transmit shockwaves into the vehicle's interior and knock out the crew with pressure damage. Other chemical rounds like HEAT and HESH might inflict overpressure damage but with a much lower probability. Bombs, rockets, and artillery shells are similarly dangerous.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Cast homogeneous armour

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 10 mm (33°) ''Driver viewport glacis'' 10 mm (78°) ''Upper Glacis'' 10 mm (40°) ''Lower Glacis'' || 8 mm (25°) ''Top'' 10 mm (6°) ''Bottom'' 8mm (27°)''Wheelwells'' || 6 mm (4°) ''Upper plate'' 6 mm (48°) ''Lower glacis'' || 10 mm (12°) ''Front glacis'' 6 mm ''Driver hatch'' 6 mm'' Centre''
|-
| Turret || 30 mm (31°) ''Turret front'' 20 mm (29°) ''Turret Cheeks'' 30 mm (0°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 20 mm (23°) ''Frontal'' 20 mm (9°) ''Rear'' || 15 mm (14°) || 10 mm (12°) 10 mm (13°) ''Centre''
|-
| Cupola || colspan="3" | 10 mm (cylindrical) || 10 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* 5 mm structural steel storage boxes covering the turret rear
* Gun mantlet consists of cast homogeneous armour
* Wheels are 10 mm thick

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=496|rbMinHp=283}}

Powered by a licensed BF8L413F 325 hp diesel engine from Germany, the PTL02 can reach up to 85 km/h ( and -8 km/h in reverse) on roads. This vehicle still lags behind almost all wheeled assault guns in the game (only the [[M1128]] has a worse power-to-weight ratio). This exacerbates the common problem of wheeled vehicles performing worse on soft terrain. Another negative aspect of the PTL02's mobility is the absurdly slow reverse speed of only ~7km/h, meaning it lacks the agility wheeled vehicles should have and will not be able to quickly back out from danger. The PTL02 will not be able to match the [[Centauro]] for example in terms of zipping in and out of cover and climbing to unusual vantage points.

To make the most out of the good top speed, it will need to navigate on hard terrain (roads, urban surfaces) for best results. If the PTL02 must be used on hilly and soft terrain maps, try your best not to get stuck since the lack of mobility will absolutely be the death sentence of this vehicle.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|PTP86 (100 mm)}}

The 100 mm PTP-86 smoothbore gun found on this vehicle was a improvement on the earlier Soviet based PTP-73 (Type 73) AT gun with the same calibre with NATO alloy technologies (which came from L7A3 then domesticated as ZPT-79). The PTP-86 has similar performance as the [[Type 69]]'s gun and players can get used to it fairly quickly. Bear in mind the poor gun depression. It has a significantly faster turret rotation than the Type 69, which is a plus.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[PTP86 (100 mm)|100 mm PTP86]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 30 || rowspan="2" | -4°/+18° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 24.8 || 34.3 || 41.6 || 46.0 || 48.9 || rowspan="2" | 8.71 || rowspan="2" | 7.70 || rowspan="2" | 7.10 || rowspan="2" | 6.70
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 15.5 || 18.2 || 22.1 || 24.4 || 26.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| 1-72-85 APDS-FS || APFSDS || 220 || 213 || 193 || 173 || 156 || 140
|-
| 1-71-74 HE || HE || 17 || 17 || 17 || 17 || 17 || 17
|-
| Type 1973 HEAT-FS || HEATFS || 390 || 390 || 390 || 390 || 390 || 390
|-
| DYW PT86-100 || APFSDS || 381 || 378 || 372 || 364 || 356 || 347
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| 1-72-85 APDS-FS || APFSDS || 1,505 || 4.7 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 76° || 77° || 80°
|-
| 1-71-74 HE || HE || 900 || 15 || 0 || 0.1 || 1,300 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Type 1973 HEAT-FS || HEATFS || 1,000 || 10.05 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 1,180 || 65° || 72° || 77°
|-
| DYW PT86-100 || APFSDS || 1,610 || 3.3 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

The PTL02 has a similar ammunition selection as the [[Type 69]], with the exception of the DYW PT86-100 APFSDS round. The stock 1-72-85 APFSDS with 220 mm of flat penetration at 10 metres is worse than many AP/APHE rounds. It also suffers noticeable drop-off at long distances. 1-72-85 does have a few good qualities: it has a good muzzle velocity of 1,505 m/s and the angled penetration is decent considering the flat penetration, topping out at 127 mm @ 60 degrees. For comparison, the [[T-55A]]'s 3BM25 APFSDS round has far superior flat penetration (up to 335 mm) but only has slightly higher angled penetration (up to 129 mm @ 60 degrees). 1-72-85 penetrates sloped armour more effectively than flat armour, rather like long rod APFSDS rounds. The post-penetration damage is nothing to write home about but still workable. Spalling is poor, but the round tends to stay intact after penetration and is quite good at detonating ammo racks and knocking out crew members if they are in the line of fire. Memorize the module layouts of enemy tanks to efficiently cripple and destroy them as the PTL02 cannot withstand return fire.

The 1-71-74 HE shell is weak and should be ignored. It has a low explosive content and might be able to cause pressure damage to light targets, but not consistently. Any vehicle with more than paper-thin armour will be immune to it.

The unlockable Type 1973 HEAT-FS is a Tier III modification. Familiar to [[Type 59]] or [[Type 69]] users, it has the same penetration performance as the T-55A's 3BK17M HEAT-FS with a lower TNT equivalent and a slightly lower muzzle velocity. 390 mm of flat penetration at any distance is impressive and will slice through almost all tanks lacking special armour types (spaced, reactive, composite). While it lacks the extra high velocity of the APFSDS and can be detonated by bushes or fences, the HEAT-FS is still good for dealing with heavy targets that the APFSDS can't penetrate. The explosive content is rather low but it might trigger overpressure damage occasionally against light targets. Post-penetration damage is somewhat inconsistent, so again, aim for crew members and ammo racks.

The DYW PT86-100 APFSDS round, introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]], is the best option overall and comes as a tier IV researchable modification. With an even higher velocity at 1,610 m/s than 1-72-85, it has wonderful penetration for the PTL02's rank and battle rating: 381 mm of flat penetration and 220 mm of 60-degree penetration at point-blank is on the level of the M774 and M833 rounds used by the [[IPM1|IPM1 Abrams]]! Very few opponents that the PTL02 faces can possibly resist this round, and even if used in lineups higher than 8.0, it fares well against relatively tough opponents like the [[T-72A]]. Once this round is unlocked, the PTL02's cannon becomes significantly more competitive and easy to use. Together with the linkage of rangefinder and gun sight, this round can prove its capabilities in the battlefield without having to worry about where to aim at its BR. Keep in mind that it costs 210 Silver Lions per shot, so firing it excessively can get expensive; make the shots count.

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''30''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|QJC88A (12.7 mm)|Type 86 (7.62 mm)}}

The turret-mounted 12.7 mm QJC88A HMG has already become the standardized HMG for most PLAGF vehicles after the 1990s. The main usage of the HMG is to deal with lightly protected vehicles and low-flying aircraft including helicopters. It can also effectively damage gun barrels, tracks, optics, MG, and ERA to assist teammates in destroying enemies, though this may require a lot of fire. Players who dealt with the paltry 50 round belt capacity of the 12.7 mm DShK machine guns of previous PLA vehicles will be happy to know that the QJC88A has a much more generous 150 round belt capacity.

The 7.62 mm MG, on the other hand, is only useful in clearing obstacles such as fences, marking out enemy positions on the minimap, or knocking out exposed crew on certain vehicles (eg. M113 TOW). It lacks the penetration to pierce through even lightly armoured vehicles.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[QJC88A (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm QJC88A]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Pintle || 500 (150) || 700 || -5°/+60° || ±180°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 86 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm Type 86]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 800 (250) || 700 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

Being a wheeled vehicle and the very first wheeled assault gun of the Chinese tech tree, the PTL02's main advantages lie in its mobility and gun sight.

With its 85 km/h speed, flanking is the key to avoid any direct fire from pretty much any vehicle armed with at least a heavy machine gun. Because of the negligible protection found on this vehicle, take all precautions and avoid rushing into direct fire at all costs, you will not have the luxury of having the second chance to return fire. Being one of the slowest wheeled assault guns in the game, taking vantage points might not be possible considering the inferior top speed that only gets worse in off-road situations. The thin armour and poor reverse speed punish poor positioning, so think carefully about what spots allow the PTL02 to spot and engage enemies without being overly exposed to incoming fire. Complicated terrains are problematic for this vehicle and it tends to do better in urban combat. Any aircraft is a lethal threat, with either guns or rockets, so keep away from their sight. Use smoke grenades to mask your position if there are no buildings or other forms of large cover to hide behind. Helicopters in particular will have an easy time spotting and destroying the PTL02, so do not attract their attention and make use of the heavy machine gun if they get very close.

The 1-72-85 APFSDS comes stock, although it is enough to deal with earlier Cold War MBTs like [[Leopard 1 (Family)|Leopard 1]] and [[AMX-30 (Family)|AMX-30]], this stock round might meet American tanks with rounded hull like [[M48A1]] and the tougher [[M103]] which cause some trouble; in this case, bring some HEAT-FS to help deal with such vehicles. Otherwise, memorize the weak spots of enemy tanks and try to flank. Contemporary MBTs tend to have poor side armour and even a half decent angle of attack may be enough for the APFSDS to penetrate where typical APDS rounds could not. Once the better DYW PT86-100 APFSDS round has been researched, you are more likely to take down your enemies without too much concern on their protection with a whopping 381mm penetration at point-blank. As discussed previously, aim for ammo racks and important crew members. If an injured enemy is still capable of returning fire, be very cautious and consider leaving them for teammates to clean up. Since the PTL02 is a relatively modern vehicle, dating from 2002, it has second generation thermal sights for the gunner with sufficient resolution to help players find targets at a good distance. With the laser rangefinder and the linkage of gun sight to rangefinder, the PTL02 is a mobile sniper that cause severe damage to the enemy team. Caution and planning are still needed to compensate for its faults, but once the PTL02 is in a good position, its thermal sights and railgun-like top APFSDS allow it to send enemies to hangar efficiently.

;Enemies worth noting

* [[Rooikat Mk.1D]], [[Centauro (Family)|Centauro]], [[M1128]]: these wheeled vehicles perform a similar flanking role on the battlefield. Therefore you will often encounter them while flanking or on your way to flank. These vehicles are generally faster, both forwards and backwards, have better gun depression or better optics/ammo, so they may already be at a cap point before you. If this is the case, ambush around their location and passively hunt them down, as the PTL02's rather slow acceleration and bad reverse prevents it from being offensive in terms of mobility. The Rooikat lacks thermal sights, making it easier to spot and destroy preemptively. The Centauro has stronger armor and a more spaced out crew layout. The M1128 can only be encountered in a full uptier and has an unmanned turret, good thermal sights for all crew members, and slat armour that occasionally interferes with HEAT-FS rounds.

* [[AMX-10RC]]: a contemporary French 6x6 wheeled light tank armed with a 105 mm gun, APFSDS rounds, and thermal sights for the gunner. The AMX-10RC has a rather low profile compared to other wheeled tanks and can be a dangerous sniper. Unlike the other wheeled vehicles mentioned previously, the AMX-10RC does not have any sort of gun stabilizer. Try to attack it when it is on the move and cannot shoot accurately.

* [[M60A1 RISE (P)]], [[Sho't Kal Dalet (Great Britain)|Sho't Kal Dalet]], [[Centurion Mk.5 AVRE]]: these three medium tanks have good frontal armour and are equipped with ERA, so the HEAT-FS and stock 1-72-85 APFSDS will have some difficulty in direct engagements. All three have hull side armour of at most 50 mm, so the best option is usually to get a slight flank and overmatch their side armour using the APFSDS. In a last resort frontal engagement, all of them can be targeted in the turret ring area, though that is a difficult shot. The Sho't Kal can be ammo-racked through the lower glacis and the AVRE has some ERA gaps around the gun mantlet. Shooting the AVRE in the lower glacis is possible but somewhat annoying due to the obscuring plow attachment, and it is also hard to hit the ammo racks below the turret basket. These problems disappear once the top APFSDS is unlocked, as it has more than enough power to penetrate the three tanks anywhere and at any distance.

* [[Gepard]], [[Type 87]], [[M3 Bradley]], [[BMP-2]], etc.: these vehicles are fast and armed with fully-stabilized autocannons that will very easily rip through the PTL02. Keep a safe distance and try to ambush them.

Overall, the PTL02 can be put to good use by players who are skilled with using APFSDS and HEAT-FS rounds, perhaps from prior experience on the [[Type 69]], and are willing to trade any semblance of armour for increased scouting abilities, better mobility, and a very powerful top APFSDS round. The combination of thermals, a stabilized gun, and HEAT-FS + both APFSDS can prove useful in many situations and is good training for the fast-paced combat seen at higher ranks.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* High speed and agility on hard and even terrain
* Hard-hitting 100 mm cannon capable of firing powerful rounds
* Powerful DYW PT-86-100 APFSDS shell with 381 mm penetration which is very effective at its BR, still highly potent in uptiers
* Gunner thermal optics significantly boost its fighting capability, especially at night
* Thin armour may cause overpenetration, leading to minimal shrapnel damage
* Fast turret traverse
* Two-plane stabiliser allows better targeting
* Roof-mounted 12.7 mm HMG is lethal against helicopters and light vehicles
* Laser rangefinder with linkage to gunsight helps sniping.

'''Cons:'''

* Extremely slow reverse speed for a wheeled vehicle
* Poor gun depression (-4 degrees) renders it useless in hilly battlefields
* Very thin armour, can be mowed down by common .50 cal MG frontally as well as knocked out by HE shells through overpressure
* Tall profile
* Suspension is soft and bouncy, hull wobbles severely when breaking to a stop
* As with other wheeled vehicles, poor mobility on soft or uneven terrain
* No thermal sight for commander
* Abysmal penetration figures for the 1-72-85 APDS-FS round against heavily armoured vehicles - expect the round to frequently non-pen or bounce off Russian T-62's, British Chieftains and American M60's

== History ==

In the early 1980s, Factory 256 (now known as NORINCO Chongqing Tiema Industrial Cooperation) started their version of a domestic wheeled APC program coded WZ551. The factory decided to build the APC based on the Mercedes-Benz 2026 off-road truck which has just been introduced into Mainland China, the program didn't go well as they decided later on to make major changes to the propulsion system and therefore the WZ551 was delayed. This delay caused the withdrawal of funding from the 7th 5-year project and Factory 256 needed to export this APC in order to recoup their investment. However, in 1986, the prototype of the WZ551 was approved by the PLAGF and was selected as their future wheeled APC. It was approved for production in 1988 and designated as ZSL90 and later ZSL92 with improved propulsion. The WZ551A chassis was then designed to mount different weaponry ranging from riot-suppression equipment, mortar, IFV turret and anti-tank weaponry.

Just a few years prior to the official introduction of WZ551 and its variant, PLAGF kept their eyes on the development of wheeled assault guns from NATO countries, and Factory 256 was also among one of the factories that was asked to design a new domestic wheeled assault gun; they then opted for Type 86 100 mm AT gun as the main gun of their prototype Type 87 wheeled assault gun. While it didn't make it through state certifications, the PLAGF did saw how the extensive use of wheeled assault guns during the Gulf War helped the Coalition as a light, mobile gun platform while remaining less expensive to operate than conventional MBTs. Later, when the tension between Mainland China and the Taiwanese Government got more intense (the 2nd Taiwan Strait Crisis), PLAGF also found the potential of using a wheeled assault gun with the extensive and well-developed road network of Taiwan in view of the possible landing operations; thus WZ551A got a second chance. After some rapid development, PTL97 with 100 mm AT gun passed field tests, it was then further upgraded with a new image-stabilized FCS and some redesign of the main gun. The newly designed PTL02 finally passed state certification in October 2001 and was first publicly shown in the 50th Anniversary of the Establishment of PRC parade, as the 12th phalanx of the vehicle column in the parade. It serves as a quick response mobile gun platform for the artillery troops.

=== [[wt:en/news/7047-development-ptl02-chinese-wheels-en|Devblog]] ===
In the late 1980's, the NORINCO corporation successfully tested the Type 87 armoured vehicle. The prototype featured a 6x6 chassis of a prospective Type 90 armoured personnel carrier with a 100mm anti-tank gun. The prototype vehicle successfully passed the tests, but was not put into service.

The army authorities returned to the project in the early 90's, when, in the course of modernization, the PLA began to form mobile motorized infantry formations. This was where the Type 87 researches came in handy: by 2003, on the same 6x6 chassis of the new Chinese armoured vehicles ZSL92 and ZSL92A, a PTL02 infantry support vehicle appeared with a 100mm smooth-bore cannon in the turret. The 19-ton infantry fire support vehicle possessed significant mobility and a weapon capable of effectively destroying fortifications and armoured vehicles, except for modern MBTs.

Mass production of the PTL02 has been going on since 2004, the SPG is widely used by the Chinese army and is produced for [[WMA301|export in a version with a 105mm gun]], unified for the use of Western-style ammunition.

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== See also ==


;Related development

* [[WMA301]]- export version with NATO 105 mm gun and revised turret.

;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

* [[Rooikat Mk.1D]]
* [[Centauro I 105]]
* [[AMX-10RC]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7047-development-ptl02-chinese-wheels-en|[Devblog] PTL02: Chinese Wheels]]

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WMA301

2021-10-24T12:45:38Z

U84459403: Complementary Information

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|code=cn_wma_301
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]].

Based on the same WZ551 chassis, Chinese copy of the French VAB, as the ZSL-92 APC and the [[PTL02]] assault gun, the WZ301 is an export-only vehicle of Mainland China made by the NORINCO Factory 256 at Chongqing. The most noticeable differences from the PTL02 are the newly-designed welded turret that somewhat resembles the [[ZTZ96A]] in terms of the arrowhead shape, and the replacement of the original 100 mm smoothbore gun with a standard 105 mm rifled gun. This assault gun saw service in different African countries and in Myanmar, serving as a quick-response assault gun for the buyers and a fast-moving addition to their inventory.

Anyone familiar with the PTL02 can adjust to the WMA301 easily. It is a very similar vehicle for the most part, the main difference lying in its armament. The 105 mm rifled gun has a similar ammunition selection to the [[T-69 II G]] with a new addition being the GP105 gun-launched ATGM. The WMA301's APFSDS is less potent that the PTL02's top round, but it has access to a proximity fused HE round for fending off helicopters and a powerful tandem-warhead ATGM for defeating heavy targets, making it a very versatile vehicle. With good positioning and situational awareness, the WMA301 can contribute in almost any situation.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}


Both the WMA301 and its cousin the PTL02 share the very same WZ551 chassis, the WMA301 only having very slight modifications to the fighting compartment. So the WMA301 shares the same flaw of being very lightly-armoured hull: avoid anything with a HMG or any autocannon vehicles (including aircraft) at all costs, because it is very likely you will not have a second chance to return fire and knock the enemy out. On close inspection, it can be seen that WMA301's hull armour uses high-hardness armour in some areas instead of standard RHA, but considering that the plates are still identically thin to the PTL02's, the improvement in protection is negligible.

Also, its overall height is still high, so it will easily be spotted by enemies albeit with the combination of thin armour and large, empty volume will occasionally frustrate enemies firing subcalibre rounds. Penetration is essentially guaranteed, but minimal spalling is created and a hastily aimed shot may not catch many crew members or important modules in the line of fire. On the other hand, HE shells with a high explosive mass will often transmit shockwaves into the vehicle's interior and knock out the crew with overpressure damage. Other chemical rounds like HEAT and HESH might inflict overpressure damage but with a much lower probability. Bombs, rockets, and artillery shells are similarly dangerous.

The WMA301's turret is slightly more resilient than the PTL02's from the front. The turret face is made of high-hardness RHA and the arrowhead shape leads to greater sloping. This does not make a significant difference in practice; at best, it might shrug off some light autocannon fire at a distance.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour
* High-hardness rolled armour
* Cast homogeneous armour

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 10 mm (33°) ''Driver viewport glacis'' 10 mm (78°) ''Upper Glacis'' 10 mm (40°) ''Lower Glacis'' || 8 mm (25°) ''Top'' 10 mm (6°) ''Bottom'' 8 mm (27°) ''Wheel wells'' || 6 mm (4°) ''Upper plate'' 6 mm (48°) ''Lower glacis'' || 10 mm (12°) ''Front glacis'' 6 mm ''Driver hatch'' 6 mm'' Centre''
|-
| Turret || 30 mm (54°) ''Upper turret front'' 30 mm (30°) ''Lower turret front'' 30 mm (0°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 20 mm (21°) ''Frontal'' 20 mm (4°) ''Rear'' || 15 mm (5°) || 10 mm (12°) 10 mm (13°) ''Centre''
|-
| Cupola || colspan="3" | 10 mm (cylindrical) || 10 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


* 5 mm structural steel storage boxes covering the turret rear
* Lower hull sides, driver viewport glacis, lower glacis, driver's compartment cupolas, rear turret side armour, rear hull armour, and turret front consist of high-hardness RHA
* Gun mantlet consists of cast homogeneous armour
* Wheels are 10 mm thick

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=496|rbMinHp=283}}

Since the WMA301 is essentially a PTL02 with a different turret, the whole power train and the suspension system are totally the same as the latter, powered by the same Deutz DBF8L413F and ZF 5S-111GPA transmission, so they share the same top speed at 85 km/h and the subpar reverse at -7 km/h. Surprisingly, it has the same weight as the PTL02 despite the new features.

Like its domestic cousin, to make the most out of the good top speed, it will need to navigate on hard terrain (roads, urban surfaces) for best results. If players must be used on hilly and soft terrain maps, try your best not to get stuck since the lack of mobility will absolutely be the death sentence of this vehicle.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|WMA301 (105 mm)}}

Since the WMA301 is an export vehicle and the compatibility to mainstream ammunitions is essential, it chose a 105 mm gun as its main armament; based on the ZPL94 gun found on T-69 II G but with lower recoil. It can fires both NATO and NORINCO's 105 mm ammunitions ranging from HEATFS to APFSDS, as well as HE-VT rounds.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[WMA301 (105 mm)|105 mm WMA301]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 30 || rowspan="2" | -4°/+18° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 24.8 || 34.3 || 41.6 || 46.0 || 48.9 || rowspan="2" | 8.71 || rowspan="2" | 7.70 || rowspan="2" | 7.10 || rowspan="2" | 6.70
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 15.5 || 18.2 || 22.1 || 24.4 || 26.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Type-83 HEAT || HEATFS || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400
|-
| DTB-1 || HE-VT* || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21 || 21
|-
| Type-83 HESH || HESH || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127
|-
| GP105 || ATGM (tandem) || 750 || 750 || 750 || 750 || 750 || 750
|-
| Type-83 APDS || APFSDS || 337 || 335 || 330 || 322 || 314 || 306
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| Type-83 HEAT || HEATFS || 1,173 || 11 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 1,270 || 65° || 72° || 77°
|-
| DTB-1 || HE-VT* || 825 || 16.2 || 0 || 0.1 || 1,660 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Type-83 HESH || HESH || 730 || 15 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 4,310 || 73° || 77° || 80°
|-
| GP105 || ATGM (tandem) || 370 || 18.8 || 0.4 || 0.1 || 4,620 || 80° || 82° || 90°
|-
| Type-83 APDS || APFSDS || 1,455 || 3.79 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

During the late 1990s, Mainland China has acquired 100 mm gun-launched ATGM technologies from Russia, so the WMA301 also comes with a powerful GP105 tandem ATGM which owners of [[BMP-3]] may find familiar. The statistics are identical to the 9M117M1 Bastion: good travel speed, high TNT equivalent mass, and a tandem warhead for bypassing ERA. Thankfully, the WMA301 does not suffer from the BMP-3's massive reload penalty for ATGMs. The GP105's whopping 750 mm of penetration it can take down practically anything it will ever meet at its BR. This is less than the [[ZBD86]]'s HJ-73E ATGM, but still more than generous - even high-tier Soviet behemoths like the [[T-64B]] or [[T-72B]], featuring ERA and strong composite armour, can be defeated by GP105. As a beam-riding missile, the GP105 is immune to IRCM and can be guided on the move if necessary.

The Type 83 APFSDS round is the same as found on the [[ZTZ59D1]] and shares all traits of it, which is still sufficient for its BR but it might struggle when it faces Russian MBTs with higher protection at longer ranges. For example, a fully spaded [[T-72A]] with the add-on armour can be difficult to penetrate outside of the standard Soviet weak spots of the driver's port and lower glacis, whereas the PTL02's DYW PT86-100 round can penetrate the T-72's hull quite easily. The APFSDS is still the best all-purpose round since it has a high muzzle velocity and is a kinetic projectile that will not be disrupted by bushes, fences, and contemporary ERA.

The Type 83 HEAT-FS round is nothing special, only having very slight improvements over the Type 1973 HEAT-FS used by the PTL02. Against most targets it is simply less useful than the APFSDS. HESH rounds have low penetration and poor ballistics, successful impacts creating wide but shallow sprays of spalling. The HEAT-FS and HESH rounds are generally obsolete, as their only advantages over the APFSDS are their ability to cause overpressure damage through their explosive content, but the aforementioned GP105 can perform the same role as well; in fact, GP105 has a higher TNT equivalent than both the HEAT-FS and HESH. Using HESH rounds as an last-ditch option to knock out hull down vehicles by splashing turret roofs might occasionally be viable.

Last but not least is the DTB-1 HE-VT round, seen previously on the T-69 II G. Although it is useful to deal with helicopters or low-flying aircraft in very shallow dives, this should be done with caution since anything that flies is the last thing the WMA301 wants to face. For anti-helicopter duties, locate the target using the WMA301's thermal sights, lase them with the laser rangefinder, and fire the round with enough lead to catch them comfortably within the proximity fuse radius. Keep in mind that DTB-1 has a rather low muzzle velocity and it is difficult to hit helicopters that are moving unpredictably and/or staying at long range. Actual aircraft are difficult to hit since the WMA301 doesn't have as much gun elevation as a proper SPAA. Serious anti-air duties are best left to the [[WZ305]] or [[PGZ09]].

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''30''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|QJC88A (12.7 mm)|Type 86 (7.62 mm)}}

The turret-mounted 12.7 mm QJC88A HMG has already become the standardized HMG for most PLAGF vehicles after the 1990s and this exported assault gun was no exception. The main usage of the HMG is to deal with lightly protected vehicles and low-flying aircraft including helicopters. It can also effectively damage gun barrels, tracks, optics, MG, and ERA to assist teammates in destroying enemies, though this may require a lot of fire. Players who dealt with the paltry 50-round belt capacity of the 12.7 mm DShK machine guns of previous PLA vehicles will be happy to know that the QJC88A has a much more generous 150-round belt capacity.

The 7.62 mm MG, on the other hand, is only useful in clearing obstacles such as fences, marking out enemy positions on the minimap, or knocking out exposed crew on certain vehicles (eg. M113 TOW). It lacks the penetration to pierce through even lightly armoured vehicles.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[QJC88A (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm QJC88A]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Pintle || 500 (150) || 700 || -3°/+60° || ±180°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 86 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm Type 86]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 800 (250) || 700 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

Like its domestic cousin, the WMA301's main advantages lie in its mobility and gun sight.

With its 85 km/h speed, flanking is the key to avoid any direct fire from pretty much any vehicle armed with at least a heavy machine gun. Because of the negligible protection found on this vehicle, take all precautions and avoid rushing into direct fire at all costs, you will not have the luxury of having the second chance to return fire. Being one of the slowest wheeled assault guns in the game, taking vantage points might not be possible considering the inferior top speed that only gets worse in off-road situations. The thin armour and poor reverse speed punish poor positioning, so think carefully about what spots allow the WMA301 to spot and engage enemies without being overly exposed to incoming fire. Complicated terrains are problematic for this vehicle and it tends to do better in urban combat. Any aircraft is a lethal threat, with either guns or rockets, so keep away from their sight. Use smoke grenades to mask your position if there are no buildings or other forms of large cover to hide behind. Helicopters in particular will have an easy time spotting and destroying the WMA301, so do not attract their attention and make use of the heavy machine gun, gun-launched ATGM, and as a last ditch, HE-VT if they get very close.

Whatever the situation, APFSDS and ATGM are a must for the WMA301 and they come with the tank as it is a premium vehicle. The Type 83 APFSDS can handle most targets at its BR and anything else with ERA or strong composite armour can be dealt with by the ATGM. With the same 2nd generation thermal gunner's sight and a laser rangefinder found on the PTL02, being a mid-field runner for hit-and-run attacks or staying behind and sniping careless targets are both viable roles for the WMA301.

;Enemies worth noting

* [[Rooikat Mk.1D|Rooikat]], [[Centauro (Family)|Centauro]], [[M1128]]: these wheeled vehicles perform a similar flanking role on the battlefield. Therefore you will often encounter them while flanking or on your way to flank. These vehicles are generally faster, both forwards and backwards, have better gun depression or better optics/ammo, so they may already be at a cap point before you. If this is the case, ambush around their location and passively hunt them down, as the WMA301's rather slow acceleration and bad reverse prevents it from being offensive in terms of mobility. The Rooikat lacks thermal sights, making it easier to spot and destroy preemptively. The M1128 has an unmanned turret, good thermal sights for all crew members, and slat armour that occasionally interferes with HEAT-FS rounds. A well placed APFSDS round to the turret or crew compartment may be able to knock them out instantly, but if they survive, a follow-up ATGM should be able to finish the job.

* [[AMX-10RC]]: a contemporary French 6x6 wheeled light tank armed with a 105 mm gun, APFSDS rounds, and thermal sights for the gunner. The AMX-10RC has a rather low profile compared to other wheeled tanks and can be a dangerous sniper. Unlike the other wheeled vehicles mentioned previously, the AMX-10RC does not have any sort of gun stabilizer. Try to attack it when it is on the move and cannot shoot accurately.

* [[Gepard]], [[Type 87]], [[M3 Bradley]], [[BMP-2]], etc.: these vehicles are fast and armed with fully-stabilized autocannons that will very easily rip through the WMA301. Keep a safe distance and try to ambush them.

* [[Dardo]], [[M3A3 Bradley]]: these IFVs can sling a pair of powerful top-attack TOW-2B ATGMs that can easily destroy the WMA301 even if it is hiding behind cover. The TOW-2B also has 4.10 kg of TNT equivalent and a 3 m proxmity fuse, which is very bad news - the operator only needs to send a TOW-2B in the WMA301's general location to trigger lethal overpressure damage. The Dardo is particularly dangerous since it does not need to deploy its launcher before firing and has a very quick autocannon that can mow down the WMA301 down in a heartbeat. If these IFVs are on the field, hang back and be very cautious, only attacking when they are distracted. If they become aware of your position, immediately deploy smoke grenades and retreat as quickly as possible behind tall terrain features.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Deadly 105 mm cannon with high velocity, adequate rate of fire and great accuracy
* Gen 2 gunner thermal greatly enhances search-and-destroy ability
* Various ammunition: from APFSDS to unique HE-VT to gun-launched tandem ATGM
* Superior tandem ATGM carrier (can fire on the move, with a short reload time and can carry a high number of ATGMs)
* Competitive top speed on hard surfaces
* Roof-mounted HMG is lethal against helicopters and light vehicles (eg. M113)
* 2 salvos of smoke grenades provide helpful concealment
* Turn radius is quite small for a wheeled vehicle, beneficial in urban areas
* Has laser rangefinder to assist long-range shooting

'''Cons:'''

* Abysmal reverse speed of only -7 km/h, fatally slow for a wheeled vehicle
* Poor agility on soft terrain like mud, sand and snow
* Poor gun depression
* Bouncy suspension, hard to aim when driving on rough terrain
* Extremely thin hull armour, can be easily penetrated by 12.7 mm HMG fire
* Tall profile, easy to get spotted and shot at
* APFSDS is less powerful at ranges exceeding 2,000m and will struggle to penetrate well-protected tanks (eg. [[T-62M-1]], [[T-72A]])

== History ==

In the early 1980s, the Factory 256 (currently known as NORINCO Chongqing Tiema Industrial Cooperation) started their version of a domestic wheeled APC program coded WZ551. The factory decided to built the APC based on Mercedes-Benz 2026 off-road truck which has just been introduced into Mainland China, the program didn't go well as they decided later on to make major changes to the propulsion system and therefore the WZ551 was delayed. This delay caused the withdrawn of funding from the 7th 5-year project and Factory 256 needed to export this APC in order to recoup their investment. However, in 1986, the prototype of the WZ551 was approved by the PLAGF and was selected as their future wheeled APC. It was approved for production in 1988 and designated as ZSL90 and later ZSL92 with improved propulsion. The WZ551A chassis was then designed to mount different weaponry ranging from riot-suppression equipment, mortar, IFV turret and anti-tank weaponry.

Two decades after its introduction, based on the [[PTL02]] wheeled assault gun, NORINCO introduced a version of it with an improved turret and new low-recoil 105 mm gun for potential customers with needs for a fire-support vehicle with mobility. First sold to Myanmar in early 2010s, this wheeled assault gun was then exported to different Asian/African countries, serving as their quick response vehicle in heated conflict zones.

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MILAN

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{{DISPLAYTITLE:MILAN ATGM}}
[[File:Milan.jpg|right|thumb]]

== Description ==

[[File:WeaponImage MILAN.png|thumb|left|420px|The MILAN missile (the launch tube, missile with fist stage motor, and deployed missile are shown; scale is approximate)]]
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The MILAN is a Franco-German developed anti-tank guided missile, with a single shaped-charge warhead. Milan means ''Missile d'infanterie léger antichar''; "Light anti-tank infantry missile". It also means in French a species of a bird of prey (Eagles, Vultures and Falcons).

=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===


* {{Specs-Link|germ_marder_1a1}}
* {{Specs-Link|germ_marder_1a3}}
* {{Specs-Link|uk_ratel_20}}
* {{Specs-Link|uk_fv510_isv}}

== General info ==


{| class="wikitable"
|'''Caliber'''
|103 mm
|-
|'''Projectile Mass'''
|6.55 kg
|-
|'''max. speed'''
|200 m/s
|-
|'''Guidance system type'''
|Semi-automatic
|-
|'''Firing range'''
|2.00 km
|-
|'''Explosive Mass'''
|1.4 kg
|-
|'''TNT equivalent'''
|1.83 kg
|-
|'''Fuze Sensitivity'''
|0.1 mm
|}

=== Effective damage ===


{| class="wikitable"
!
!0°
!30°
!60°
|-
|'''10 m'''
|530 mm
|459 mm
|265 mm
|-
|'''100 m'''
|530 mm
|459 mm
|265 mm
|-
|'''500 m'''
|530 mm
|459 mm
|265 mm
|-
|'''1,000 m'''
|530 mm
|459 mm
|265 mm
|-
|'''1,500 m'''
|530 mm
|459 mm
|265 mm
|-
|'''2,000 m'''
|530 mm
|459 mm
|265 mm
|}

=== Comparison with analogues ===
''Give a comparative description of missiles that have firepower equal to this weapon.''

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe situations when you would utilise this missile in-game (vehicle, pillbox, base, etc)''

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarise and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.''

'''Pros:'''

'''-Because it is guided by wire, the missile cannot be affected by radio jamming or flares.'''

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'''Cons:'''

'''-The sight of the launch unit has to be aimed at the target to guide the missile until it enter contact with the enemy vehicle'''.

'''-Short range.'''

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