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B-17E

2020-03-30T18:55:17Z

U83577125: Added history of the b-17

{{Specs-Card|code=b-17e}}
{{About
|about=aircraft '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
|usage=other uses
|link=B-17 (Family)
}}

== Description ==


[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American heavy bomber bomber {{Battle-rating}}. This bomber has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

== General info ==
=== Flight Performance ===
''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="8" | Characteristics
|-
! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 7,680 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (meters)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (meters/second)
! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
|-
! AB
! RB
! AB
! RB
! AB
! RB
|-
|497||483|| {{Specs|ceiling}} ||36.9||37.9||5.8||5.6||600
|-
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 7,680 m)
! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (meters/second)
! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
|-
! AB
! RB
! AB
! RB
! AB
! RB
|-
|525||512|| {{Specs|ceiling}} ||33.7||33.8||10.6||8.6||600
|-
|}

====Details====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flap
! Take-off flap
! Landing flap
! Air brakes
! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="5" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Combat flap (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! +
! -
|-
| {{Specs|разрушение|конструкции}} || {{Specs|разрушение|шасси}} ||400|| ~1 || ~1
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
|-
! Ailerons (km/h)
! Rudder (km/h)
! Elevators (km/h)
! Radiator (km/h)
|-
| < 360 || < 300 || < 323 || > 210
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 6,180 m || 4,000 hp || 4,708 hp
|-

|}

=== Survivability and armour ===


* 6.35 mm Steel plate behind nose gunner.
* 6.35 mm Steel plates behind pilots.
* 6.35 mm Steel plates behind dorsal gunners.
* 6.35 mm Steel plates in front of beam gunners.
* 6.35 mm Steel plates in front of tail gunner.
* 38 mm Bulletproof glass in front of tail gunner.
* 38 mm Bulletproof glass ball turret.

== Armaments ==
=== Suspended armament ===

{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|AN-M66A2 (2,000 lb)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordinance:

* 8 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 12 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (6,000 lb total)
* 6 x 1000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (6,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2000 lb AN-M66A2 bombs (4,000 lb total)

=== Defensive armament ===

{{main|Browning (7.62 mm)|Browning M2 (12.7 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by:

* 1 x 7.62 mm Browning machine gun, nose turret (500 rpg)
* 2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun, front dorsal turret (500 rpg = 1,000 total)
* 1 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun, rear dorsal turret (500 rpg)
* 1 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun, 2 x beam turret (400 rpg = 800 total)
* 2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun, ventral turret (500 rpg = 1,000 total)
* 2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun, tail turret (500 rpg = 1,000 total)

== Usage in battles ==

The B-17E Flying Fortress is intended to be used as a high-altitude level bomber in order to target airfields, bases, and land fortifications. Despite its large bomb load, it's not recommended to target moving ground units, such as tanks or armored cars, especially when they are travelling in tight columns due to the inaccuracy of your bombs at high altitudes and the ability for the AI on the ground to perform evasive manoeuvres when bombs are falling onto their position. When using the B-17E, it is best to fly with another friendly bomber or fighter (if possible) to ensure maximum protection. If you are flying alone, design a secure flight path towards your objective in hopes of not being detected by enemy fighters.

The B-17E is designed specifically to withstand the harshest punishment during combat. The bomber itself provides plenty of armour along the fuselage and tail except for the nose, which is the only area that's not protected by any form of protection. Armour ranges from 6.35 mm sheets to a single 38 mm glass plate protecting the tail gunner. Speaking of armour protection, in order to ensure the greatest chance of survival during an interception, you must not move. The B-17E is not designed to execute sharp defensive manoeuvres (turns, dives, and rolls), but rather designed to use its defensive armament provided (consisting of 12.7 mm and 7.62 mm turrets) to fight back against harassing enemy fighters. Some great advice for novice bombardiers is to included incendiary ammunition in your turret belts almost ALWAYS! This crucial precaution will guarantee more lethal firepower coming from your defensive armament, since not only are you penetrating armour, but you are also setting components ablaze.

In conclusion, the B-17E is a great introduction for players using the American bomber line. If used well, the B-17E is a force be reckoned with.

===Manual Engine Control===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" |Mixer
! rowspan="2" |Pitch
! colspan="3" |Radiator
! rowspan="2" |Supercharger
! rowspan="2" |Turbocharger
|-
! Oil
! Water
! Type
|-
| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable || rowspan="2" |Combined|| rowspan="2" | Controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
|-
|}

===Modules===
As a slow and lumbering heavy bomber the ''Flying Fortress'' relies entirely on its turrets for defence. Without it, the plane is a pinata. Thus ''Protective vests'' should be the first unlock. Further survivability upgrades will make fending of attacks easier but do not think to stand successfully against enemy fighters. So upgrading the bomb load should be second priority. Performance modules can be considered least necessary, it will not go anywhere quick anyway.

{| class="wikitable"
! colspan="1" | Tier
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
! colspan="1" | Survivability
! colspan="2" | Weaponry
|-
| I
| Fuselage Repair
| Radiator
|
|Turret 7 mm
|
|-
| II
|
| Compressor
| Airframe
|New 7 mm MGs (turret)
|LBC-17
|-
| III
| Wings Repair
| Engine
|
|Turret 12 mm
|SBC-17
|-
| IV
|
| Engine Injection
| Cover
|New 12 mm MGs (turret)
|MBC-17
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Large bomb load
* Heavy defensive armament
* Multiple engines (preserves speed when damaged)
* Very sturdy fuselage able to soak up heavy damage
* Calibers below 12.7 mm are ineffective against it
* Good speed
* Defensive armaments provide all-around coverage
* Performs well at high altitudes

'''Cons:'''

* Cumbersome target
* Poor climb rate
* Nose is extremely vulnerable
* Cannons are very effective against it
* Multiple engines mean multiple fires
* Sluggish controls and very difficult to manoeuvre
* Wings are large and vulnerable
* Low speed
* Weak against 20 mm cannons

== History ==
The B-17 was developed by Boeing in the 1930’s for the USAAC. It was competing against Douglas and Lockheed Martin's aircraft. It lost because the prototype crashed, but it was purchased again after, and was mass produced later. The B-17 was primarily employed by the USAAF in the daylight strategic bombing campaign of World War II against German industrial and military targets. The United States Eighth Air Force, based at many airfields in central, eastern and southern England, and the Fifteenth Air Force, based in Italy, helped secure air superiority over the cities, factories and battlefields of Western Europe in preparation for the invasion of France in 1944. The B-17 also participated a little bit in the War in the Pacific, early in World War II, where it conducted raids against Japanese shipping and airfields.

In-game description

"The legendary B-17 American heavy bombers were rightly called Flying Fortresses. This four-engined heavy bomber was an all-metal hero, an extremely durable aircraft that could return to the airfield with just one engine, riddled with bullets.

But the early models of the B-17 had a significant blind spot in the rear, so fighter support was required. To solve this problem, the B-17E was produced, and a turret with two 12.7mm machine guns was installed in the tail section of the aircraft. To do this, the fuselage size had to be increased. In addition, to improve control of the plane, the tail was broadened and a larger vertical fin was installed.

Although it lost some speed when compared to the B-17D, the new model fared favorably with its new protection and thus became the first truly mass-produced B-17. From September 5, 1941 to May 1942, 512 aircraft were made on the production line, before the development of the B-17F. "

== Media ==
''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;''
* ''other literature.''

{{AirManufacturer Boeing}}
{{USA bombers}}

TBF-1C

2020-03-30T18:42:37Z

U83577125: Added larger description to the Battle of the midway.

{{Specs-Card
|code=tbf-1c
|cockpit=334223/1109995
}}
{{About
| about = American bomber '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the British version
| link = Avenger Mk II (Great Britain)
}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American naval bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

== General info ==
=== Flight Performance ===
''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="8" | Characteristics
|-
! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 3,650 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (meters)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (meters/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (meters)
|-
! AB
! RB
! AB
! RB
! AB
! RB
|-
| 414 || 398 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 31.1 || 32.4 || 3.2 || 3.2 || 307
|-
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 3,650 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (meters)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (meters/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (meters)
|-
! AB
! RB
! AB
! RB
! AB
! RB
|-
| 452 || 432 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 29.0 || 30.0 || 7.3 || 5.1 || 307
|-
|}

====Details====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps
! Take-off flaps
! Landing flaps
! Air brakes
! Arrestor gear
|-
| X || X || ✓ || X || ✓ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="5" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Combat flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! +
! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|constructions}} || {{Specs|destruction|chassis}} || 485 || ~6 || ~2
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
|-
! Ailerons (km/h)
! Rudder (km/h)
! Elevators (km/h)
! Radiator (km/h)
|-
| < 300 || < 220 || < 220 || > 318
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 1,768 m || 1,500 hp || 1,684 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 3,962 m || 1,350 hp || 1,516 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===


* 6.35 mm Steel - Armour plate in the nose
* 12.7 mm Steel - Armour plate behind the pilot
* 12.7 mm Steel - Armour plate in dorsal gunner's seat
* 12.7 mm Steel - Armour plate in front of dorsal gunner
* 12.7 mm Steel - Armour plate in front of ventral gunner
* 6.35 mm Steel - Armour plate under the ventral gunner
* 40 mm Bulletproof glass in front of dorsal gunner
* 0.1 mm Wood - Connecting ventral gunner's armour

== Armaments ==
=== Offensive armament ===

{{main|Browning M2 (12.7 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 2 x 12.7 mm Browning M2 machine guns, wing-mounted (310 rpg = 620 total)

=== Suspended armament ===

{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|Mk.13|Mk.13/44}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* 4 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 1 х Mk.13 torpedo
* 1 х Mk.13/44 torpedo

=== Defensive armament ===

{{main|Browning M2 (12.7 mm)|Browning (7.62 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by:

* 1 x 12.7 mm Browning M2 machine gun, dorsal turret (400 rpg)
* 1 x 7.62 mm Browning machine gun, ventral turret (500 rpg)

== Usage in battles ==

As with all torpedo bombers, maintaining low altitude, high speed, and fighter cover are all recommended. The optimal distance for launching a torpedo is 1 km from the target. Targets should be engaged from directly ahead or astern, making "leading" the target much easier. If torpedo bombing is not an option, the plane can carry bombs for attacking ground targets.

The Avenger lacks much significant armament, but in a pinch it can serve as a fighter. The aircraft is not particularly fast or manoeuvrable, but, continuing the trend among mid-tier American aircraft, is extremely durable.

Fly low and fast, head towards your target, drop your ordinance and bug out. However, if there are no hostile fighters in the area, destroy some enemy ground installations, e.g. AA, light vehicles, landing crafts and anti-tank positions.

'''''Simulator mode procedures''''' 
Hands-off carrier take-off (Auto engine control): Start engine, flaps: raised, elevator trim: 0%, aileron trim: 0%, rudder trim: 14% right, WEP throttle, hands off controls until you lift off the carrier.

Level-type carrier landing final approach (Auto engine control): Drop any secondary weapons you may still have, make sure your alignment with the carrier and heading are good for landing, use your stick to hold an altitude of 40 m (120 ft), slow down below 200 km/h (125 mph / 108 kt), elevator trim: 2%, aileron trim: 18%, rudder trim: 0%, after gently slowing down to 123 km/h (77 mph / 67 kt) set throttle to about 55% (you will have to adjust throttle a lot, though), just before the carrier (less than 1 km (0.62 mi)) cut throttle and reset all trim to 0%, landing should be easy after that.

===Manual Engine Control===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil
! Water
! Type
|-
| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable Auto control available || rowspan="2" | Controllable Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Controllable Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Separate || rowspan="2" | Controllable 2 gears || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
|-
|}

===Modules===
{| class="wikitable"
! colspan="1" | Tier
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
! colspan="1" | Survivability
! colspan="3" | Weaponry
|-
| I
| Fuselage repair
| Radiator
|
| Turret 7 mm
|
| ITC mk.III
|-
| II
|
| Compressor
| Airframe
| New 7 mm MGs (turret)
| Offensive 12 mm
|
|-
| III
| Wings repair
| Engine
|
| Turret 12 mm
|
| Improved torpedo
|-
| IV
|
| Engine injection
| Cover
| New 12 mm MGs (turret)
| New 12 mm MGs
|
|-
|}

* Performance is a secondary criteria for an attacker. The focus should be on improved armament, especially the upgraded torpedoes that make handling them much easier. The machine gun upgrades are not really needed, the normal M2 Browning does well enough. The turrets however profit and gain longer and more accurate fire. Of course performance upgrades do not hurt, ''Compressor'', ''Engine'' and ''Engine Injection'' should be essential pick-ups, the rest on the other hand can be scheduled to the end of grind.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Robust construction
* Adaptive secondary ordnance for different maps e.g. naval and ground based operations
* Very good vision from pilot's seat in cockpit
* Great stability
* Good defensive gunner coverage

'''Cons:'''

* Limited bomb selection for a bomber
* Wing mounted 12.7 mm machine guns factoring in convergence
* Poor low altitude performance, especially when turning
* Slow
* Touchy controls, tends to over-respond to small control inputs (SB)
* Ventral gunner has little protection, easily knocked out
* Only has landing flaps

== History ==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Typical Monthly Production !! Grumman TBF-1
|-
| February, 1942 || 5
|-
| June, 1942 || 60
|-
| November, 1942 || 100
|-
|}

'''Battle Of Midway''' - June 4, 1942. 
The battle of midway was a massive battle that happened 6 months after pearl harbour. this was a Japanese attack. It was supposed to be a surprise attack, but the Americans knew they were coming, and attacked back. The TBF-1 didn't play a major role in this battle, as there were only six available, and they were all lost but one.

First Combat mission of the TBF-1 was on June 4, 1942 at the battle of Midway. Only six TBF-1 were available, for the start of the battle they were attached to VT-8.
All apart from one were lost.

'''Eastern Solomons''' - Aug. 24/25th 1942 
Admiral Yamamoto's infamous naval counter-strike 24th of August. The opposing naval forces met; the US Navy had only two carriers: Saratoga (VT-8) and Enterprise (VT-3). The Imperial Japanese Navy (I.J.N) had the carriers: Shōkaku, Zuikaku and a light carrier Ryūjō. By August, TBF's had been delivered to the two ships. 
26 TBF-1 Avengers from VT-3 and VT-8 were launched. Their torpedoes helped to sink the light carrier I.J.N. Ryūjō. Seven Avengers were lost.

'''Santa Cruz''' - Oct. 26, 1942 

'''Guadalcanal''' - Nov, 12/13th, 1942 

* Sank the I.J.N. Hiei battleship (37,000 tons) - Was the last big Japanese naval attack. TBF-1's were used by Marine Scout Bombing Squadron 131 (VMSB-131)

=== In-game description ===
The TBF Torpedo Bomber was created to replace the outdated Devastators, which suffered from insufficient speed and short range. The TBF, also known as the Avenger, had good range and load capacity and the ability to carry cargo inside the fuselage. It was an ideal solution for a carrier-based transport aircraft. During the war, the Avenger earned a reputation as a very accurate bomber.

One unique feature of the TBF-1 was its wings. After the plane landed, they were folded back onto the side of the fuselage and parallel to it. This was done to solve the problem of the insufficient height of aircraft carrier hangar decks, which conflicted with standard upward-folding wings. Thanks to hydraulic actuators, the wings could be retracted or extended by the pilot in just a few seconds, without any help from ground personnel.

The TBF was widely used during World War II by not only U.S. forces but also those of Great Britain and New Zealand. In Great Britain, the aircraft was named the Tarpon and was one of the most extensively used British torpedo-bombers.

== Media ==
''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;''
* ''other literature.''
* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/3149/current/ [Vehicle Profile<nowiki>]</nowiki> TBF-1c / Avenger Mk 1]

{{AirManufacturer Grumman}}
{{USA bombers}}