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Mi-8AMTSh

2023-11-12T06:19:07Z

U81285116: /* Pros and cons */ and usage in battles

{{Specs-Card
|code=mi_8amtsh
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Kings of Battle"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Heli-Flight}}

''Describe how the helicopter behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max speed (km/h at _,___ m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| ___ || ___ || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Heli-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the helicopter. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Heli-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Offensive}}

{{main|PKT (7.62 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 7.62 mm PKT machine gun, nose turret (1,750 rpg)
* 128 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Suspended}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

{{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
{{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}

* 2 x 12.7 mm YaK-B machine guns (750 rpg = 1,500 total) + 4 x 7.62 mm GShG-7.62 machine guns (1,800 rpg = 7,200 total)
* 6 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 1,500 total)
* 4 x 9M39 Igla missiles
* 8 x 9M39 Igla missiles
* 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 80 x S-8KO rockets
* 120 x S-8KO rockets
* 6 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (600 kg total)
* 6 x 250 kg FAB-250M-62 bombs (1,500 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg ZB-500 incendiary bombs

{{Navigation-End}}

== Usage in battles ==

With the Mi-8AMTSh recieving better long ranged armament, countermeasures, and a ballistics computer, along with an engine upgrade, the Mi-8AMTSh is a good support helicopter to go along in your lineup.

In Ground RB, the Mi-8AMTSh is effective for both stand off engagements and rushing into the battle first spawn. The Mi-8AMTSh can carry up to 120x S-8K rockets, which are effective with dealing any armored targets when launching them in salvos, along with the added ballistics computer, hitting accurate shots from distances is easier to do with rockets. The uprated engines also allow it to pick up speeds quicker and is less prone to stalling its engines. The Mi-8 is a big helicopter overall, with the design originally being a transport helicopter. Mobility will still be mediocre and multiple machine gun and autocannon fire will easily defeat the Mi-8, along with being prone to pilot snipes.

For standoff engagements, the outermost pylons can take up to 4x 9M114 Shturm ATGMs on each pylon, for a total of 8x ATGMs which are good for dealing damage against ground targets overall from a distance. Prioritize SPAAs and Anti Air that are trying to target you. For defending against air targets, you can equip up to 4x 9M39 Igla missiles on the middle pylons, for a total up to 8x Igla missiles. These missiles are very flare resistant, but are more suited to deal with helicopters, though they can still take down air targets, despite its manueverability being subpar. The best way to use them is to catch the enemy off guard in their attack run or in their low energy state at a medium range distance. If the aircraft does spot you, try to use the Iglas to ward them off and deter them from attacking you, or for you to get a better launch angle. It is ideal to bring a GUV-8700 gunpod or GSh-23L to deal with air targets overall, as the single PKT is not ideal for engaging jets.

The Mi-8AMTSh does lack HIRSS, RWR and IRCM Dazzler than its Mi-24 cousins so be on the look out for any anti aircraft vehicles that are trying to target you. Without HIRSS, heat seeking missiles will have an easier time locking you on, along with radar missile systems not giving a lock warning due to the lack of RWR. It is best to preflare when dealing with heat seaking anti-air over the battlefield

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* Better, powerful uprated engines over the previous variant. Higher top speed
* Access to 128x countermeasures
* Improved, versatile armament than its predecessor
* Access to ballistics computer
* Access up to 8x 9114M Shturm missiles that can be fired up to 5 km away
* Access up to 8x 9M39 Igla missiles, good for dealing against helicopters and slow aircrafts
* GUV-8700 and GSh-23L gunpod offer extra firepower.

*

'''Cons:'''

* Lacks RWR, HIRSS and IRCM Dazzler unlike its Mi-24 cousins
* Downgraded to 7.62mm PKT for machine gun. Subpar for dealing with targets overall
* Big recognizable profile
* Sluggish mobility when manuevering
* Crew closely grouped together
* ATGM firing angle is slightly akward. Have to pitch nose down slightly if in a hover to launch
* Lacks Thermals and NVD for the gunner

*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the helicopter in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the helicopter;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{AirManufacturer Mil}}
{{USSR helicopters}}

Su-25T

2023-06-18T00:33:17Z

U81285116: Usage in battles with a pro an con

{{About
| about = Soviet strike aircraft '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = Su-25 (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=su_25t
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max speed (km/h at _,___ m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| ___ || ___ || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | ___
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| _ || _ || _ || _ || _ || _ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || ___ || ___ || ___ || ~__ || ~__
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < ___ || < ___ || < ___ || -
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | _____ || _
| colspan="2" | _,___ kg || colspan="2" | ___ kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Max Gross Weight|Mass of the fully equipped aircraft with heaviest weapons load}}
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
|-
| ___ kg || colspan="2" | ___
| _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || ___%/WEP
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel || MGW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || ___ kgf || ___ kgf
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf (_ km/h) || ___ kgf (_ km/h)
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|GSh-30-2 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 1 x 30 mm GSh-30-2 cannon, belly-mounted (200 rpg)
** 1 x 30 mm GSh-30-2 cannon + 192 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''
{{main|OFAB-100 (100 kg)|OFAB-250sv (250 kg)|FAB-500M-62 (500 kg)|ZB-500 incendiary|GSh-23L (23 mm)}}
{{main|OFAB-250Sh (250 kg)|FAB-500Sh (500 kg)|KAB-500Kr (500 kg)|9K127 Vikhr|}}
{{main|Kh-25ML|Kh-29L|Kh-29T|R-60M}}
{{main|S-8KO|S-13OF|S-24B}}
{{main|S-25L|S-25O|S-25OF|S-25OFM}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:

* Without load
* 2 x 800 liters drop tanks
* 2 x R-60M missiles
* 32 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (3,200 kg total)
* 8 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 8 x 250 kg OFAB-250Sh bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 8 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (4,000 kg total)
* 8 x 500 kg FAB-500Sh bombs (4,000 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg KAB-500Kr bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 8 x ZB-500 incendiary bombs
* 160 x S-8KO rockets
* 40 x S-13OF rockets
* 8 x S-24B rockets
* 8 x S-25O rockets
* 4 x S-25L rockets
* 4 x Kh-25ML missiles
* 2 x Kh-29L missiles
* 2 x Kh-29T missiles
* 16 x 9K127 Vikhr missiles
* 4 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 1,000 total)

== Usage in battles ==

The SU-25T Frogfoot is best suited for ground attack in general, using similar, to the same tactics as its predicessor, low and fast passes, with the new guided munitions coming into play, especially the Vikhr missiles that have the potential to wipe ground units. It's also very survivable just like its predecessor. In air battles, you are at a major disadvantage as aircraft you'll usually face have radar missiles that are advance, along with pulse dopplar radar. You will not outrun or catch any opponents. R-60Ms are still decent, though they have to be conserved and used carefully. You can still dogfight enemies but majority of the vehicles, especially the F-14s, F-16s and MiG-29s of top tier can still dance around you easily. At best, try to avoid confrontation, fly to the side and low, aiming for ground targets such as AAA, howitzers and light pillboxes or bombing bases if you can get there in time. IRCM will help, though it is best to use in tandem with countermeasures, as the IRCM is not guaranteed to spoof missiles, especially close range.

'''Pros:'''

* Slightly upgraded flight performance, with a newer engine.
* Engines can be overclocked too 104 percent throttle for extra thrust.
* Can equip Kh-29Ts and 9K127 Vihkr missiles for ground attack compared to its predecessor
* IRCM jammer that can disrupt Air to Air missiles, along with a good amount of countermeasures.
* Tanky airframe, can survive missiles such as Stingers.
* Upgraded RWR, can pinpoint radar pings accurately.
* Large weaponry option, with different and unique combinations

*

'''Cons:'''

* Slow aircraft and heavy aircraft, especially with ordinance.
* IRCM cannot stop missiles that have IRCCM such as Stingers.
* Only two R-60Ms for self defense.
* Can overspeed, and overheat the engines if not careful with the throttle.
* Mediocre manuverability.
* Controls compress at high speeds.

*

== History ==

The Su-25T project was an attempt to create an anti-tank aircraft that would be able to operate both during the daytime and at night, equipped with targeting systems and guided munitions to defeat armored vehicles. The list of equipment for the future aircraft was formalized in 1979, it was based on the Shkval targeting and navigation system and the Mercury television sight. The prototype passed the factory tests in 1987, by 1990 the project was prepared for mass production but due to the collapse of the USSR it did not start. A small batch of completed aircraft took part in the Chechen War in 1996. After the transfer of the production base from Tbilisi, Georgia to Ulan-Ude, Russia, the project was re-focused for export. An export version with slightly different avionics was designated the Su-39. In total, three attack aircraft of this configuration were built. Due to lack of funding, the project was closed.

''- From [[wt:en/news/8276-development-su-25t-and-the-pre-order-of-the-su-39-sergey-strikes-back-en|Devblog]]''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{USSR jet aircraft}}

AIM-54C Phoenix

2023-06-17T21:08:54Z

U81285116: Added majority of description, general info, usage and Pros and Cons

== Description ==
The '''AIM-54C Phoenix''' is an American active radar homing missile, improving on the existing AIM-54A. It was introduced in [[Update "La Royale"|Update "La Royale."]]

=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===


* {{Specs-Link|f_14b}}

== General info ==
{| class="wikitable"
! colspan="2" |Missile characteristics
|-
|'''Mass'''
|463 kg
|-
|'''Guidance'''
|ARH+IOG+DL
|-
|'''Signal'''
|CW
|-
|'''Lock range'''
|16 km
|-
|'''Launch range'''
|150 km
|-
|'''Maximum speed'''
|4.3 M
|-
|'''Maximum overload'''
|17 G
|-
|'''Missile guidance time'''
|160 secs
|-
|'''Explosive mass'''
|60.54 kg TNTeq
|}

=== Effective damage ===
The AIM-54 is equipped with a 60 kg TNT warhead, capably of destroying targets with wide proximity fuse.

=== Comparison with analogues ===
Compared to its predecessor, the [[AIM-54A Phoenix|AIM-54A]], the AIM-54C introduces a slightly better seeker head to improve proportional navigation when not actively guiding the missile, however it comes at a cost of being slightly heavier, reducing its manuverability slightly, and prone to bleeding more energy. Otherwise, the AIM-54C is very identical. Despite the in real life AIM-54C featuring a smokeless motor, the AIM-54C in game currently has a trail that can be spotted.

Compared to other radar missiles in game, the AIM-54C, when use correctly can beat any other radar missile in terms of range. Being an Active Homing Radar missile is also another huge advantage, not needing to guide it fully. AIM-7F/Ms and R-27ERs can out accelerate, and are more manuverable than the AIM-54C, making closer range engagements tricky if you only have AIM-54s

== Usage in battles ==
Along with the existing [[AIM-54A Phoenix|AIM-54A]], the AIM-54C is best used at altitude and at very far ranges, as the AIM-54C takes a while to accelerate and get up to speed, and can be out accelerated by [[AIM-7F Sparrow|AIM-7F]]<nowiki/>s and [[R-27R]]<nowiki/>s and [[R-27ER]]<nowiki/>s. It is best to be high and fast when using the AIM-54C to increase the kill chance probability. With the F-14B being the only carrier of the AIM-54C, taking up to 2 AIM-54Cs is ideal, saving room for [[AIM-7M Sparrow|AIM-7M]]<nowiki/>s for the closer range engagements. Taking more than 2, or even carrying only 6 Phoenixes is not reccomended as the slightly increased weight of the AIM-54C weighs the aircraft down heavily despite the [[F-14B]]'s better flight performance. Using and launching 6 AIM-54Cs a few minutes after take off is heavily disregarded as you will be wasting your radar missiles, even if there's that one chance of hitting an enemy, it really doesn't outweight the negatives of doing that.

Track While Scan (TWS) mode is heavily reccomended as it does not alert the enemy of you locking them, and it gives you the opportunity to see what targets to pick and choose to launch the AIM-54C at. The AIM-54C does not require a hard lock and can be launched in TWS mode, and at multiple targets at once. TWS will give updated positions of enemy aircraft as the AIM-54C guides its way towards the enemy. The AIM-54C can track the enemy without TWS updates, especially with the improved proportional navigation system it has, though most likely there's a chance that it will miss the enemy still.

The ideal altitude at best to use the AIM-54C is within 5km to 11km altitude (16,000ft - 36,000ft for the imperial users) along with having a very high speed. Mach 0.9 is ideal, or even breaking past Mach 1 is the best thing to do, already having the missile up to speed and ready for launch in the less denser air. The ideal range is no more than 50km (31~ miles), and no less than 20km (12~ miles). Beyond 50km is possible, though only in the right conditions, and using the AIM-54C below 20km is not ideal, with the AIM-7M being superior below 20km.

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* Active Radar Homing seekerhead, fire and forget is possible
* Similar to the AIM-54A, has the most range out of any other radar missile
* Fast velocity at high altitudes after launch
* Can be used in Track While Scan (TWS) mode, doesn't warn the enemy until the seeker goes active
* Large warhead, can damage enemies even if it slightly misses its target.
* Slightly improved seekerhead, reducing drift slightly when not actively guiding it

*

'''Cons:'''

* Has 17Gs of pull max, can be dodged by aware enemies
* Slightly heavier than its predecessor
* Slow acceleration
* Heavy and large missile
* Chance of hitting friendly teammates if the missile has gone pitbull
* Can loose lock after launch if the TWS lock is gone.
* Despite the IRL AIM-54C having a smokeless motor, the in-game AIM-54C still has a motor trail, can be seen still if close enough.

*

== History ==
''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.''

== Media ==
''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the article about the variant of the weapon;''
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Missiles}}

[[Category:Suspended armaments]]

J32B

2022-12-02T23:48:05Z

U81285116: Added a Con

{{About
|about=Swedish jet fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
|usage=the other version
|link=A32A
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=saab_j32b
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
|cockpit=cockpit_saab_j32b.jpg
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]].

The '''{{PAGENAME}}''' is a Swedish subsonic interceptor, combining excellent climb-rate and devastating firepower, both in terms of suspended and offensive armaments.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

The Saab {{PAGENAME}} Lansen is a powerful interceptor built for all-weather operations. Being the descendant of the earlier [[A32A]], this version focuses on air-to-air combat instead of its previous role as an air-to-ground platform. To achieve this, the {{PAGENAME}} received the new RM6A engine. This engine is a Swedish license-produced variant of the Avon 300, producing a staggering 6,810 kgf when engaged with full afterburner. This engine was originally developed for the [[Lightning F.6]]. This makes the {{PAGENAME}} a subsonic plane with a supersonic engine, resulting in incredible acceleration and energy retention. Staying fast and avoiding dogfights is the main advantage of the {{PAGENAME}}, as the airframe is relatively large and cumbersome, not really meant for aerial manoeuvres. However, a single pass is more than enough thanks to four centre-mounted Akan m/55 cannons, with a incredible 24 kg burst mass. The {{PAGENAME}} is also outfitted with four RB24 air-to-air missiles capable of killing enemies far beyond the plane's reach. This, combined with the incredible thrust, lets the '''{{PAGENAME}}''' decide when, and how to strike down opponents; a luxury most planes can only dream of.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 1,133 || 1,128 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 34.4 || 34.6 || 84.5 || 78.4 || rowspan="2" | 900
|-
! Upgraded
| 1,148 || 1,140 || 33.6 || 34.0 || 119.6 || 101.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 524 || 491 || 320 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 850 || < 650 || < 600 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | Svenska Flygmotor RM6A || 1
| colspan="2" | 8,882 kg || colspan="3" | 312 kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 32m fuel
|-
| 1,400 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
| 9,711 kg || 10,602 kg || 11,462 kg || 11,644 kg || 13,500 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 32m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 4,727 kgf || 6,807 kgf
| 0.70 || 0.64 || 0.59 || 0.58 || 0.50
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 4,727 kgf (0 km/h) || 7,212 kgf (1,160 km/h)
| 0.74 || 0.68 || 0.63 || 0.62 || 0.53
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
[[File:J32B_Armor_Protection.png|thumb|right|400px|Thickness of each armour section located in the {{PAGENAME}}.]]
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


* 5 mm steel plate - cockpit floor and spacer plate between frontal armour.
* 10 mm steel plate - behind the pilot and GIB's seats
* 15 mm steel plate - armour plates in front of the cockpit section
* 50 mm bulletproof glass - armoured canopy windscreen

The {{PAGENAME}} features good pilot protection. A 50 mm bulletproof screen, and plates surrounding the two pilots, reaching thickness levels of between 5 to 15 mm. These plates were originally meant to save the pilot from incoming ground-fire due to its earlier ground-attack purpose. Thanks to this excellent protection, as well as having two pilots instead of one, dying by a pilot knockout is highly unlikely in comparison to other fighters of the same rank. The {{PAGENAME}} is also survivable in terms of fuselage strength. A single pass rarely knocks it out immediately, and seems more on-par with the [[S.O.4050 Vautour IIA|Vautour IIA]] than other fighters at its rank. This strength can be attributed to the separated fuel-tanks, as well as the short engine (in relation to the fuselage). This high survivability makes the {{PAGENAME}} quite forgiving for making mistakes, as it usually isn't hard to return back to base for repairs. It is important, however, to avoid all damage possible, as even the slightest fuselage damage can heavily cripple the {{PAGENAME}}'s general flight performance. A badly damaged fuselage makes the {{PAGENAME}} unable to retain energy, keeping it away from its main advantage. The {{PAGENAME}} is also prone to catching fire. Although the fire is easily put out, the damage suffered is usually more than fatal.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|Akan m/55 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 4 x 30 mm Akan m/55 cannons, nose-mounted (90 rpg = 360 total)

The {{PAGENAME}} is outfitted with four nose-mounted Akan m/55, which are Swedish-made versions of the popular ADEN cannon, found on British aircraft. Although sharing a similar mounting to the Hunter F.6, the Lansen fires almost 4 kg of extra burst mass, as the Swedish guns have a higher fire-rate. High burst-mass is generally a good thing, as it compensates for sloppier manoeuvres, where the plane gets less time on target. The {{PAGENAME}} doesn't really benefit from this upside, however, as the ammunition count is only 90 per gun, rounding the total up to a mere 360. This is almost half of what the Hunter offers, while still having a higher fire-rate. This forces the {{PAGENAME}} to be played with incredible trigger-patience, as any unnecessary moment of fire can cost half the magazine, highly limiting its match potential. This is hampered even further by the fact that none of the rounds in the belt have tracers, leading to an inability to accurately hit the target. This can be compensated for by equipping air-to-air missiles, which sacrifices a bit of mobility for the option to save ammunition.

=== Suspended armament ===
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{{main|RB24|srak m/57B}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 2 x RB24 missiles
* 38 x srak m/57B rockets
* 4 x RB24 missiles
* 2 x RB24 missiles + 38 x srak m/57B rockets

== Usage in battles ==


'''Basics'''

Being an interceptor by nature, staying fast remains a priority above anything else. In order to achieve this, the {{PAGENAME}} likes to avoid strong aerial manoeuvres by keeping altitude and utilizing boom & zoom tactics. For a new pilot, especially one coming from the [[J29D]] or [[J29F]], the luxury of an afterburner shouldn't be much of a surprise. The {{PAGENAME}} keeps speed much better than the afterburning Tunnan, while still offering high firepower and vertical energy to boot. This compensates for the sluggish performance the plane shows in aerial combat. A newer pilot should stick to altitude, as the higher areas of the map are sometimes inaccessible by other enemies. It's still important to locate enemies with the same strengths as the {{PAGENAME}}. These include the [[Hunter FGA.9]], [[F-100A (China)|F-100A]], [[Shenyang F-5]], and the [[F3H-2]], among many others. These, along with all other missile-carrying fighters, will make flying the {{PAGENAME}} a pilots nightmare. The subsonic fighters at lower battle ratings are easy to fend off, requiring mostly speed and slight banking manoeuvres. But the planes placed between 9.0-9.7 pose as a strong counter to the {{PAGENAME}}, as they force it to manoeuvre. Do not fly straight when enemies attack you from behind. Flying straight ensures that anyone behind you has a chance to shoot you down. Even if the {{PAGENAME}} handles like a bus, it's always worth trying to avoid any damage possible, as it will only lower your chances of survival.

'''Landing'''

One of the larger difficulties with the {{PAGENAME}} is landing. The {{PAGENAME}} is very good at staying fast, even without engine thrust. With a slow turn-rate, slowing down becomes even harder. Although the airbrake on the {{PAGENAME}} isn't very large in comparison to other transonic fighters, it does still work, giving the plane some extra deceleration. When below ~500 km/h, the {{PAGENAME}} can deploy its Fowler-design flaps, which cause intense drag, slowing the plane down to much more manageable speeds. The landing approach should be done at around 300 km/h to prevent landing flaps from ripping. This speed should be higher if the plane is out of fuel, as staying at 300 km/h has to be done with the help of some engine throttle. If the {{PAGENAME}} approaches below 300 km/h without an engine, the plane won't be able to nose up before touchdown, due to the bad stall-speed of around 200 km/h. When the {{PAGENAME}} has finally touched the landing strip, it's important to keep holding brakes, as the {{PAGENAME}} needs as much runway as possible. If the {{PAGENAME}} is approaching the end of the runway, the {{PAGENAME}} can emergency drift by using full rudder below 100 km/h. Although this may result in a broken wing, it's usually better than overshooting the landing strip.

'''Aggressive playstyle'''

A {{PAGENAME}} pilot comfortable with trigger patience, aerial manoeuvrability, and central awareness can slowly attempt to push the {{PAGENAME}} to its limits. The {{PAGENAME}}, especially when spaded, shows incredible and almost unmatched energy retention even at higher tiers. Combined with a weak turn radius and strong acceleration, the {{PAGENAME}} can easily throw itself into any engagement, choosing to disengage whenever it pleases. This mentality can be further enhanced by making the aircraft as light as possible, taking only 20 minutes of fuel, and sometimes disregarding suspended armaments entirely. With spaded performance and minimal weight, the {{PAGENAME}} will stay above 1,100 km/h no matter the aerial manoeuvre, giving it the ability to escape no matter what's behind it. This also mitigates the sidewinder issue the {{PAGENAME}} suffers from. When the {{PAGENAME}} has the ability to continuously turn without losing speed, nobody will have the ability to achieve a perfect lock-on state. A {{PAGENAME}} pilot still needs to be aware of incoming gunfire since cutting this turn can be easily achieved. This can be easily improved on by shifting direction every once in a while, making the chasing opponent lose speed in the process. When combined with some training, The {{PAGENAME}} turns into a unbeatable defensive flyer compared to the usual cannon-fodder experience. It is worth noting that this playstyle is incredibly challenging for inexperienced {{PAGENAME}} pilots, as it requires incredible trigger patience and G-load awareness. Anyone looking to play this aggressive approach can always go for less drastic changes, by still taking suspended armaments, or only focusing slow opponents.

'''Dealing with Supersonic Aircraft'''

As the {{PAGENAME}} sits at the very edge of the transonic era, it's no surprise the vehicle faces off opponents far more advanced and powerful. When the {{PAGENAME}} is the fastest plane in a match, it's quite common to play passively and safe, as nobody has the ability to reach it. But as the {{PAGENAME}} goes head-to-head with an [[F-4E Phantom II|F-4E]], the Lansen stands no chance of getting away. The general goal becomes to avoid cannon fire and incoming missiles, which can be best achieved by staying low on the deck, cruising at maximum speed. If engaged with an enemy, the {{PAGENAME}} should go back to the primary objective of retaining speed and energy while still pulling as hard as possible. The playstyle doesn't change a lot from the aggressive one, as the Rb24 missiles become even more dead weight than before, and lasting longer than 20 minutes is more of an miracle than a expectation. One overlooked detail is how the {{PAGENAME}} now turns better in comparison, as fully loaded Phantom and MiG-21s struggle to keep with it. Heavy [[F-4EJ Phantom II|F-4EJ]]'s need to dump tons of speed to even marginally cut the turning radius of the {{PAGENAME}}. This can be exploited by a veteran pilot, as this opens up opportunities to energy-trap and finish off the cumbersome phantom. the more lightweight deltas such as the MiG-21 and Mirage meet different fates, as they easily cut the turn from the start, forcing the {{PAGENAME}} to manoeuvre. However, as the {{PAGENAME}} doesn't lose energy compared to the aggressor, it can easily keep turning until the enemy runs out of speed to follow up with, allowing the {{PAGENAME}} to swoop in for a finishing blow.

Some small advice would be to avoid other transonic/slower supersonic planes, as they will gravitate to using the same tactic as the {{PAGENAME}}, but with greater success. Planes like the [[MiG-19S (Germany)|MiG-19S]], [[MiG-19PT]], and the [[Q-5 early|Q-5]] all excel at retaining speed like the Lansen, making it impossible to shake them off. If the {{PAGENAME}} comes across a dire situation where several opponents are behind it, it's important to keep turning no matter what! Opponents behind the {{PAGENAME}} get a guaranteed kill if the plane flies directly straight, as it allows their Sidewinders to lead properly. A continuously turning {{PAGENAME}} is almost impossible to missile from directly behind.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Excellent top speed - outruns most subsonic opponents
* 4 x 30 mm Akan m/55 - incredible burst mass and damage
* 4 x RB24 air-to-air missiles - highly potent missiles against adversaries
* Powerful afterburning engine - excellent acceleration & energy retention
* Integrated radar
* Above-average roll-rate
* Resistant to high-G manoeuvres (up to 10Gs)
* Decent pilot protection & airframe endurance
* Fowler flap design - provides excellent lift at low speeds

'''Cons:'''

* Mediocre manoeuvrability, almost every opponent it faces can out-manoeuvre it
* Difficult to land - landing flaps rip at 300 km/h
* Very inefficient airbrake design - requires high angle-of-attack or aggressive banking to slow down
* Large target: easy to hit
* High rate of fire: ammunition will deplete very quickly, trigger control required

* Lacks access to tracer munitions
* Wings rip very easily without the wing repair modification
* Lacks countermeasures, difficult to avoid both all aspect and 20G+ missiles

== History ==

In the year 1948, SAAB started to develop a new type of multi purpose aircraft with capabilities such as a strike-fighter, interceptor or reconnaissance aircraft. The project was called P1150 and had the intent to replace the B18, J21A, A21R and the J30 aircraft. After some testing, a swept wing design typical for the time period was decided upon. After some testing with a Swedish jet engine design called the Dovern, it was decided that the engine lacked the desired power so a swap to the British Rolls-Royce Avon Mk.21 engine was decided upon due to its ability to produce more power without its afterburner on than the Dovern could even with the afterburner engaged. The airplane was designated the Saab 32 Lansen and flew for the first time in November 1952 with Bengt Olow as pilot.

A total of 447 aircraft were delivered to the Swedish Air Force from 1955 until 1960. These were modified and renovated until its retirement in 1997. A total of 10 variants were in service, including the prototype P1150.

=== [[wt:en/news/6519-development-j32-lansen-flying-lance-en|Devblog]] ===
Sweden has always been aware of current trends in military aviation. When all the leading military producers realized the undoubted superiority of jet engined aviation over piston aircraft, Sweden also began developing its own aircraft with a new type of engine. The project for the new combat aircraft was conceived as a replacement for light bombers and ground attackers from the WWII period, so the project started as an attack fighter. Since the production technology of proprietary engines in Sweden did not develop as fast as needed, the first aircraft of the Type 32 project were equipped with licensed copies of the British Avon engine with a Swedish afterburner. The jet strike aircraft under the A32 A designation was mass-produced in Sweden from 1955 to 1958, and was a completely modern combat aircraft of this class. The aircraft was equipped with a quick-fire battery of course weapons of four 20 mm guns at the front of the fuselage. As it should be a ground attack aircraft, the A32 A Lansen featured a rich arsenal of outboard weapons distributed over 12 suspension points under the wing: various bombs (up to 600 kg each), up to 24 unguided rockets of various calibres, including 12 anti-ship APHE missiles, or a couple of anti-ship Rb04 guided missiles with an active radar homing system.

At the same time, a fighter-interceptor version of the Lansen was being developed, the first such aircraft took to the sky in January of 1957. The J32B fighter was noticeably different from its attack aircraft sister, primarily with a more powerful engine and specific weapons. The power plant here was also a licensed copy - this time the Avon Mk.47A engine with a Swedish afterburner, which was capable of delivering 2,000 kg more thrust compared to the A32 A engine. The new engine also required geometrical and design changes in the air intakes and the jet nozzle. The interceptor received more powerful course armament - four 30 mm cannons, copies of the British Aden. There are only four suspension points for further armament, but there is a possibility of installing air-to-air missiles - the US made AIM-9B Sidewinder. However, to work on ground targets, a fighter could also take rockets into battle. The Swedish Air Force ordered 120 of the J32B, this model remained in service until 1973, along with more modern supersonic fighters.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=saab_j32b Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|6yUrv5UsiXU|'''The Shooting Range #183''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:32 discusses the J.32B.}}

== See also ==


* [[A32A]] - Attack variant of the same aircraft

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6519-development-j32-lansen-flying-lance-en|[Devblog] J32 Lansen: Flying Lance]]
* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/474728-j-32b-lansen/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]

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2022-11-27T08:22:30Z

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Rhode Island Air National Guard C-130

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Su-17M4

2022-11-27T02:12:04Z

U81285116: Usage in battles

{{About
| about = Soviet strike aircraft '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = Su-17/22 (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=su_17m4
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]].

The Su-17M4 is a later model of the swing-wing "Fitter" attacker family. Compared to the previous [[Su-17M2]], it uses a revised airframe shared by the [[Su-22M3]] with a drooping forward fuselage and a noticeable hump behind the cockpit. The flight performance remains practically unchanged, still enjoying good speed and the versatility afforded by its swing wings. In-game, its most notable improvements over other models are the ability to use all-aspect [[R-60M]] infrared missiles for air combat and a large supply of 268 countermeasures for self defense. It also enjoys the widest suite of ground attack weapons, featuring the S-25 heavy rocket seen on the Su-22M3 and the [[Kh-29T]] TV-guided missile seen on the [[MiG-27M]]/[[MiG-27K|K]]. Although the Su-17M4 is more primitive than the MiG-27K and cannot fulfill the same long-range CAS role afforded by the Flogger's advanced targeting systems, this Sukhoi is still a robust strike platform with plenty of hardpoints and a large arsenal.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 11,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 2,028 || 2,011 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 27.3 || 27.5 || 167.9 || 161.2 || rowspan="2" | 850
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="60%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| X || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || ✓ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="60%"
|-
! rowspan="2" | Limits
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
! Min sweep
| 1,050 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || 476 || 473 || ~10 || ~3
|-
! Max sweep
| 1,417 || N/A || N/A || N/A || ~11 || ~4
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 740 || < 650 || < 650 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | Saturn AL-21F-3 || 1
| colspan="2" | 11,245 kg || colspan="3" | 391 - 436 kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Max Gross Weight|Mass of the fully equipped aircraft with heaviest weapons load}}
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 12m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 40m fuel
|-
| 1,800 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
| 12,385 kg || 13,103 kg || 14,031 kg || 15,045 kg || 19,367 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 12m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 40m fuel || MGW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 6,400 kgf || 9,039 kgf
| 0.73 || 0.69 || 0.64 || 0.60 || 0.47
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 7,232 kgf (1,200 km/h) || 13,188 kgf (1,417 km/h)
| 1.06 || 1.01 || 0.94 || 0.88 || 0.68
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|NR-30 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 2 x 30 mm NR-30 cannons, wing-mounted (80 rpg = 160 total)
** 2 x 30 mm NR-30 cannons + 12 x large calibre countermeasures + 256 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|OFAB-100 (100 kg)|OFAB-250sv (250 kg)|FAB-500M-62 (500 kg)|ZB-500 incendiary}}
{{main|Kh-25ML|Kh-29L|Kh-29T|S-25L}}
{{main|S-3K|S-5K|S-8KO|S-13OF|S-24B}}
{{main|R-60M|S-25O|GSh-23L (23 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:

* Without load
* 2 x R-60M missiles
* 6 x R-60M missiles
* 28 x S-3K rockets
* 128 x S-5K rockets
* 6 x S-24B rockets
* 80 x S-8KO rockets
* 20 x S-13OF rockets
* 2 x S-25O rockets
* 20 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 10 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (2,500 kg total)
* 8 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (4,000 kg total)
* 4 x ZB-500 incendiary bombs
* 2 x S-25L missiles
* 4 x Kh-25ML missiles
* 2 x Kh-29L missiles
* 2 x Kh-29T missiles
* 4 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 1,000 total)

==== Custom loadout options ====
{| class="wikitable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
|-
! !! width="5%" | 1 !! width="5%" | 2 !! width="5%" | 3 !! width="5%" | 4 !! width="5%" | 5 !! width="5%" | 6 !! width="5%" | 7 !! width="5%" | 8
| rowspan="18" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_{{PAGENAME}}.png]]</div>
|-
! 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg)
| 1 || || 1 || || || 1 || || 1
|-
! 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs
| 5 || || 1 || 4 || 4 || 1 || || 5
|-
! 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs
| 1 || || 1 || 3 || 3 || 1 || || 1
|-
! 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs
| 1 || || 1 || 2 || 2 || 1 || || 1
|-
! ZB-500 incendiary bombs
| 1 || || || 1 || 1 || || || 1
|-
! S-3K rockets
| 7 || || || 7 || 7 || || || 7
|-
! S-5K rockets
| 32 || || 32 || || || 32 || || 32
|-
! S-8KO rockets
| 20 || || 20 || || || 20 || || 20
|-
! S-13OF rockets
| 5 || || 5 || || || 5 || || 5
|-
! S-24B rockets
| 1 || || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || || 1
|-
! S-25O rockets
| 1 || || || || || || || 1
|-
! Kh-25ML missiles
| 1* || || || 1* || 1* || || || 1*
|-
! Kh-29L missiles
| || || || 1* || 1* || || ||
|-
! Kh-29T missiles
| || || || 1* || 1* || || ||
|-
! R-60M missiles
| || 1 || 2 || || || 2 || 1 ||
|-
! S-25L missiles
| 1* || || || || || || || 1*
|-
| colspan="9" | Maximum permissible loadout weight: 4,160 kg Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 700 kg
|-
| colspan="10" | * Kh-29T missiles cannot be mixed with the marked options
|}

== Usage in battles ==

In air battles, the SU-17M4 will suffer against most targets it comes across as the plane itself is an attacker. You are not maneuverable and engaging in dogfights is strongly not encouraged. Due to the presence of radar missiles, the best way to play the plane in RB is to be a support fighter essentially, and trying to stay away from the action before coming in either from the side or on top of a furball/enemy while everyone is distracted, using your R-60Ms to your advantage,. Your RWR will be useful and if you do receive a radar lock, it is best to notch and/or to try to run away from the enemy, hoping to deter him from attacking you. Head-on attacks are usually not advised as while the R-60Ms are all aspect, they can be easily flared, and its better off to keep them in a more useful situation, unless it's a last ditch effort. Bombing bases can be done but it is risky with you flying directly straight in to the map. On bigger maps such as EC matches, it may be a good idea to take some ground ordinance, and hitting ground targets to bleed the enemy ticket as being a pure "fighter" will usually end in a bad situation.

=== Radars ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="4" | SRD-5 - Rangefinding radar
|-
! {{Annotation|Maximum Tracking Range|The maximum range at which a target can be tracked}}
! {{Annotation|Minimum Tracking Range|The range below which targets cannot be tracked by the radar}}
! {{Annotation|Azimuth Tracking Angle|How far to each side the radar can track a target}}
! {{Annotation|Elevation Tracking Angle|How far up and down the radar can track a target}}
|-
| 3,000 m || 300 m || ±9° || ±9°
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Good overall turn rate and energy retention, can hold 800-1,000 km/h in turns with wings fully un-swept and afterburner deployed
* Strong elevator authority, can pull out of low-skimming attack runs with no problem
* Very large amount of countermeasures: 256 x small and 12 x large countermeasures is more than enough to keep missiles off of you
* NR-30 cannons are very powerful, can also mount up to 4 x Gsh-23L gunpods for extra burst mass
* Excellent loadout options for both AAMs and ground ordinance alike
* Can act as a very strong supporting fighter with 6 x R-60M AAMs and sweep wing

'''Cons:'''

* Roll rate and overall manoeuvrability are poor at speeds below 500 km/h
* With wings fully swept-forward, the maximum speed is limited to approximately Mach 0.8 at sea level otherwise the wings will rip
* No semi-automatic option for managing wing-sweep, only full-manual or automatic wing-sweep settings
* Gigantic target when wings are unswept
* Payload is somewhat low, at only 4,000 kg of bombs
* Cannot carry GBUs or R-13 AAMs like the MiG-27s

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=su_17m4 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|JBsxfmmBLho|'''The Shooting Range #311''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:27 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==


;[[Su-17/22 (Family)|Related development]]

* [[Su-17M2]]

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{AirManufacturer Sukhoi}}
{{USSR jet aircraft}}

GSh-30-2 (30 mm)

2022-11-27T01:57:31Z

U81285116: Table edit

{{About
| about = Soviet autocannon '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = GSh-30-2K (30 mm)
}}

=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===


* {{Specs-Link|su_25}}
* {{Specs-Link|su_25k}}

== Description ==
The '''30 mm GSh-30-2K''' (Gryazev-Shipunov) is a Soviet dual barrel autocannon. It was introduced in [[Update "Drone Age"]] with the introduction of both the [[Su-25|SU-25]] and [[Su-25K|SU-25K]].
== General info ==

=== Available ammunition ===

* '''Default:''' HEFI-T · APHE
* '''Universal:''' AP-T · HEFI-T · APHE · HEFI-T
* '''Ground targets:''' AP-T · APHE · APHE
* '''Air targets:''' APHE · HEFI-T · HEFI-T · HEFI-T

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! colspan="7" |Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" |Belt
! colspan="6" |Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
!10 m
!100 m
!500 m
!1,000 m
!1,500 m
!2,000 m
|-
|Default
|47
|46
|39
|32
|26
|21
|-
|Universal
|62
|60
|51
|42
|35
|29
|-
|Ground targets
|62
|60
|51
|42
|35
|29
|-
|Air targets
|47
|46
|39
|32
|26
|21
|}

=== Comparison with analogues ===

* [[GAU-8/A (30 mm)|GAU-8/A Avenger (30mm)]]: 30 mm American rotary cannon found on the A-10A Early and A-10A Late. Features higher fire rate and HVAP.
* [[GSh-6-30 (30 mm)]]: A rotary cannon of the same calibre with 6 barrels and a higher rate of fire than the GSh-30-2.
* [[GSh-30-2K (30 mm)|GSh-30-2K (30mm)]]: A variant of the same cannon, featuring a slightly longer barrel, but slightly less RPMs (2,600 max).
* [[GAU-13/A (30 mm)|GAU-13/A (30mm)]]: 30mm American rotary cannon found on the A-7D/E and the F-5E in a gunpod configuration.
* [[DEFA 552 (30 mm)|DEFA 552]] and [[DEFA 554 (30 mm)|DEFA 554]] (30mm): 30mm French autocannon. DEFA 554 has a higher fire rate.
* [[Akan m/75 (30 mm)|Akan m/75 (30mm)]]: 30mm Swedish Autocannon which can be used for both air and ground attack.

== Usage in battles ==
The one thing that it does the best is shatter enemies with its 30 mm shells and high rate of fire; not only this gun is devastating for aircraft or fellow helicopters, this gun is lethal to vehicles when being attacked top-down as well. But do keep in mind that Gast guns' high rate of fire also means you will deplete all the 250 rounds quickly, so do not be trigger happy with it.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* Very high shell velocity, making long range shots easier
* Hitting power is great even single hit can be lethal for the target
* Access to APHE rounds, can destroy light and medium targets with a single burst

'''Cons:'''

* High rate of fire combined with quite low ammunition capacity, trigger discipline advised
* Does not have access to HVAP making it a bit tricky to pierce heavier armored targets in ground unlike the A-10.

== History ==
After the successful GSh-23 was developed based on the decade-old Gast gun design, during early 1980s, the Soviet Ministry of Defense required the unification of calibre in tri-service autocannons. The design for GSh-23L was then enlarged to 30 mm calibre as the GSh-30-2 cannon, first used exclusively on the [[Su-25]] "Frogfoot", and later the water-cooled -2K variant made into service with the introduction of the [[Mi-24P]] "Hind-F" gunship.

== Media ==
''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{USSR aircraft cannons}}

[[Category:Aircraft cannons]]

GSh-30-2 (30 mm)

2022-11-27T01:57:01Z

U81285116: Added a few things. Most of the table were taken from the Gsh-30-2K wiki page

{{About
| about = Soviet autocannon '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = GSh-30-2K (30 mm)
}}

=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===


* {{Specs-Link|su_25}}
* {{Specs-Link|su_25k}}

== Description ==
The '''30 mm GSh-30-2K''' (Gryazev-Shipunov) is a Soviet dual barrel autocannon. It was introduced in [[Update "Drone Age"]] with the introduction of both the [[Su-25|SU-25]] and [[Su-25K|SU-25K]].
== General info ==

=== Available ammunition ===

* '''Default:''' HEFI-T · APHE
* '''Universal:''' AP-T · HEFI-T · APHE · HEFI-T
* '''Ground targets:''' AP-T · APHE · APHE
* '''Air targets:''' APHE · HEFI-T · HEFI-T · HEFI-T {| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" style="text-align:center" ! colspan="7" | Penetration statistics |- ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Belt ! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) |- ! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m |- | Default || 47 || 46 || 39 || 32 || 26 || 21 |- | Universal || 62 || 60 || 51 || 42 || 35 || 29 |- | Ground targets || 62 || 60 || 51 || 42 || 35 || 29 |- | Air targets || 47 || 46 || 39 || 32 || 26 || 21 |- |}

=== Comparison with analogues ===

* [[GAU-8/A (30 mm)|GAU-8/A Avenger (30mm)]]: 30 mm American rotary cannon found on the A-10A Early and A-10A Late. Features higher fire rate and HVAP.
* [[GSh-6-30 (30 mm)]]: A rotary cannon of the same calibre with 6 barrels and a higher rate of fire than the GSh-30-2.
* [[GSh-30-2K (30 mm)|GSh-30-2K (30mm)]]: A variant of the same cannon, featuring a slightly longer barrel, but slightly less RPMs (2,600 max).
* [[GAU-13/A (30 mm)|GAU-13/A (30mm)]]: 30mm American rotary cannon found on the A-7D/E and the F-5E in a gunpod configuration.
* [[DEFA 552 (30 mm)|DEFA 552]] and [[DEFA 554 (30 mm)|DEFA 554]] (30mm): 30mm French autocannon. DEFA 554 has a higher fire rate.
* [[Akan m/75 (30 mm)|Akan m/75 (30mm)]]: 30mm Swedish Autocannon which can be used for both air and ground attack.

== Usage in battles ==
The one thing that it does the best is shatter enemies with its 30 mm shells and high rate of fire; not only this gun is devastating for aircraft or fellow helicopters, this gun is lethal to vehicles when being attacked top-down as well. But do keep in mind that Gast guns' high rate of fire also means you will deplete all the 250 rounds quickly, so do not be trigger happy with it.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* Very high shell velocity, making long range shots easier
* Hitting power is great even single hit can be lethal for the target
* Access to APHE rounds, can destroy light and medium targets with a single burst

'''Cons:'''

* High rate of fire combined with quite low ammunition capacity, trigger discipline advised
* Does not have access to HVAP making it a bit tricky to pierce heavier armored targets in ground unlike the A-10.

== History ==
After the successful GSh-23 was developed based on the decade-old Gast gun design, during early 1980s, the Soviet Ministry of Defense required the unification of calibre in tri-service autocannons. The design for GSh-23L was then enlarged to 30 mm calibre as the GSh-30-2 cannon, first used exclusively on the [[Su-25]] "Frogfoot", and later the water-cooled -2K variant made into service with the introduction of the [[Mi-24P]] "Hind-F" gunship.

== Media ==
''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{USSR aircraft cannons}}

[[Category:Aircraft cannons]]

GSh-30-2K (30 mm)

2022-11-27T01:45:56Z

U81285116: Additional info for Usage in battles

{{About
| about = Soviet autocannon '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = GSh-30-2 (30 mm)
}}
== Description ==

The '''30 mm GSh-30-2K''' (Gryazev-Shipunov) is a Soviet dual barrel autocannon. It was introduced in [[Update 1.81 "The Valkyries"]] with the introduction of the [[Mi-24P]].

=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===


* {{Specs-Link|mi_24p}}
* {{Specs-Link|mi_24p_german}}
* {{Specs-Link|mi_24p_german_hfs80}}

== General info ==

The GSh-30-2K can fire up to 2,600 rpm on "high" setting, or 300 rpm on "low" setting.

=== Available ammunition ===


* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|APHE|Armour-piercing high-explosive}}
* '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|APHE|Armour-piercing high-explosive}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}
* '''Ground targets:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|APHE|Armour-piercing high-explosive}}{{-}}{{Annotation|APHE|Armour-piercing high-explosive}}
* '''Air targets:''' {{Annotation|APHE|Armour-piercing high-explosive}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="7" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Belt
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Default || 47 || 46 || 39 || 32 || 26 || 21
|-
| Universal || 62 || 60 || 51 || 42 || 35 || 29
|-
| Ground targets || 62 || 60 || 51 || 42 || 35 || 29
|-
| Air targets || 47 || 46 || 39 || 32 || 26 || 21
|-
|}

=== Comparison with analogues ===


* [[M230E-1 (30 mm)]]: 30 mm American chain cannon found on the Apache, with access to HEDP rounds and higher ammo count, but a lower rate of fire.
* [[GSh-6-30 (30 mm)]]: A rotary cannon of the same calibre with 6 barrels and a higher rate of fire than the GSh-30-2.
* [[2A42 (30 mm)]]: A Soviet 30 mm cannon with a much slower rate of fire rate but has access to APDS rounds and more ammo.

== Usage in battles ==

The GSh-30-2K was exclusively for gunships, serving as the fixed gun on some Soviet helicopters. The one thing that it does the best is shatter enemies with its 30 mm shells and high rate of fire; not only this gun is devastating for aircraft or fellow helicopters, this gun is lethal to vehicles when being attacked top-down as well.

But do keep in mind that Gast guns' high rate of fire also means you will deplete all the 250 rounds quickly, so do not be trigger happy with it. Using the "low" fire rate mode will make conserving your ammo better but reduces the time to destroy a target, and leaves you vunerable.

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarise and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.''

'''Pros:'''

* Good belt options for both air and ground units
* Access to APHE rounds, can destroy light and medium targets with a single burst
* Variable rate of fire option, can conserve ammo on "low" setting
* Good muzzle velocity

'''Cons:'''

* High rate of fire means careless usage will result in running out of ammo quickly

== History ==


After the successful GSh-23 was developed based on the decade-old Gast gun design, during early 1980s, the Soviet Ministry of Defense required the unification of calibre in tri-service autocannons. The design for GSh-23L was then enlarged to 30 mm calibre as the GSh-30-2 cannon, first used exclusively on the [[Su-25]] "Frogfoot", and later the water-cooled -2K variant made into service with the introduction of the [[Mi-24P]] "Hind-F" gunship.

== Media ==
''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
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{{Germany aircraft cannons}}
{{USSR aircraft cannons}}

[[Category:Aircraft cannons]]

Matra Super 530F

2022-11-27T01:09:16Z

U81285116: /* Pros and cons */ Usage in battles.

{{About
| about = French air-to-air missile '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Matra Super 530D
}}
== Description ==

The '''{{PAGENAME}}''' is a French [[Air-to-air_missiles#Semi-Active_Radar_Homing_.28SARH.29_missiles|semi-active radar-homing air-to-air missile]], it was introduced in [[Update "Wind of Change"]].

=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===


* {{Specs-Link|mirage_f1c}}
* {{Specs-Link|mirage_f1ct}}
* {{Specs-Link|mirage_2000c_s5}}

== General info ==


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="2" | Missile characteristics
|-
| '''Mass''' || 245 kg
|-
| '''Guidance''' || SARH
|-
| '''Signal''' || Pulse
|-
| '''Lock range''' || 25 km
|-
| '''Launch range''' || 40 km
|-
| '''Maximum speed''' || 4.5 M
|-
| '''Maximum overload''' || 28 G
|-
| '''Missile guidance time''' || 60 secs
|-
| '''Explosive mass''' || 10.37 kg TNTeq
|-
|}

=== Effective damage ===
''Describe the type of damage produced by this type of missile (high explosive, splash damage, etc)''

=== Comparison with analogues ===

* [[AIM-7E-2 Sparrow|AIM-7E-2]]
* [[AIM-7E Sparrow|AIM-7E]]
* [[Skyflash]]
* [[R-24R]]
* [[Matra Super 530D]]: Successor to this variant, featuring CW signal, and better perfomance.

== Usage in battles ==
The 530F missile's purpose is to intercept high altitude targets or for head-on attacks. Unfortunately, because the missile uses Pulse signals, the missile will always track any type of chaff that will be deployed. Combined with it being a SARH missile, it can be tricky to sneak up on targets. The best way to use this missile is to target aircraft that have no countermeasures, or in situations such as head on, launching the missile at very close range, hoping that the missile hits the target before it can react in time with its high acceleration and speed. The missile can also be used in engaging AI targets for extra points if getting both missiles off the rails are difficult against other players. Both F1C and F1CT radars are subpar and it can be tricky to use combined with the decent radars both aircraft get. The Mirage 2000C is a bit more forgiving with its better radar, but the missile will still let you down it any chaff is deployed while tracking a target.

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* Excellent tracking
* Great maneuverability
* High G overload
* High missile speed compared to its American and Russian counterparts

*

'''Cons:'''

* Will always track chaff due to its pulse signal wave
* Range is subpar than its Russian and American counterparts
* Missile capabilities can be limited by radar

*

== History ==
''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.''

== Media ==
''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the article about the variant of the weapon;''
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
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{{Missiles}}

[[Category:Suspended armaments]]

Matra Super 530D

2022-11-27T00:53:48Z

U81285116: Added comparison, usage in battles, and Pros and Cons list

{{About
| about = French air-to-air missile '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Matra Super 530F
}}
== Description ==
''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.''

=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===


* {{Specs-Link|mirage_2000c_s5}}

== General info ==
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="2" | Missile characteristics
|-
| '''Mass''' || 270 kg
|-
| '''Guidance''' || SARH
|-
| '''Signal''' || CW
|-
| '''Lock range''' || 30 km
|-
| '''Launch range''' || 40 km
|-
| '''Maximum speed''' || 5 M
|-
| '''Maximum overload''' || 30 G
|-
| '''Missile guidance time''' || 60 secs
|-
| '''Explosive mass''' || 10.37 kg TNTeq
|-
|}

=== Effective damage ===
The 530D uses PBXN-3 with an explosive mass of 8.1kg, with the TNT equivalent to 10.37kg

=== Comparison with analogues ===

* [[Aspide-1A]]
* [[R-24R]]
* [[AIM-7E-2 Sparrow|AIM-7E-2]]
* [[Skyflash]]
* [[AIM-7F Sparrow|AIM-7F]]

== Usage in battles ==
The Matra Super 530D missile is used for intercepting targets at high altitude or head on situations. Due to its great acceleration and speed, coupled by its high G overload, the 530D can be a tough missile to shake off. With the Mirage 2000C being the only carrier of this missile, low altitude engagements and dogfights are no problem for both the missile and the plane. With the 530D using Continuous Wave Signal, the seeker can defeat chaff and still guide to its target, if you are using the radar in regular search mode, though it is not a guarantee that it will always hit a target.

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* Excellent tracking
* Fast acceleration and speed, comparable to the Aspide-1A
* Large warhead, taking down any opponent in one hit
* Uses Continuous Wave Signal, unlike its predecessor using Pulse Signal.
* High G load

*

'''Cons:'''

* Heavy missile compared to its American and Russian counterpart
* Missile range is subpar for longer range engagements compared to its American counterpart.
* Missile capability can be limited by radar

*

== History ==
''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.''

== Media ==
''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==
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* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
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{{Missiles}}

[[Category:Suspended armaments]]

Magach 6A

2022-06-06T17:39:02Z

U81285116: Usage in battles and pros and cons

{{About
| about = Israeli medium tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = Magach (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=il_magach_6a
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Wind of Change"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

'''Armour type:'''

* Cast homogeneous armour (hull, turret, roof)
* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull roof - engine compartment, hull rear - engine grille)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 93 mm (65°) ''Front glacis'' 137 mm (55°) ''Lower glacis - Top'' 117 mm (55°) ''Lower glacis - Bottom'' || 50 mm ''Front'' 45 mm ''Top'' 70 mm (cylindrical) ''Turret base'' 36-70 mm (18-34°) ''Middle'' 36 mm (60°) ''Bottom'' 19 mm (66-82°) ''Belly - Front half'' 13 mm (66-82°) ''Belly - Rear half'' 36 mm ''Rear'' || 25 mm (3°) ''Engine vents'' 40 mm (26°) ''Lower plate'' 28 mm (59°) ''Lower glacis'' 36 mm ''Hull sides''|| 93 mm (25°) ''Front glacis'' 36 mm (5°) ''Front'' 20-25 mm ''Engine compartment'' 10 mm ''Radiator vents''
|-
| Turret || 202 mm (spherical) ''Turret front - Loader side'' 170 mm (spherical) ''Turret front - Gunner side'' 152 mm (25°) ''Gun mantlet'' 114 mm (cylindrical) ''Turret ring'' || 40-90 mm (30-41°) ''Loader side'' 70-90 mm (18-33°) ''Gunner side'' || 50 mm (25°) || 48 mm (17°) ''Front'' 25 mm ''Centre & Rear''
|-
| Cupola || colspan="4" style="text-align:center" | 25.4 mm (spherical)
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels, tracks, and torsion bars are 20 mm thick.
* Belly armour is 19 mm thick in the front, 13 in the rear.
* Mudguards and storage boxes are 4 mm thick.

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.''

{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,162|rbMinHp=663}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|M68 (105 mm)}}

''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M68 (105 mm)|105 mm M68]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 57 || rowspan="2" | -9°/+19° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__
|-
! ''Realistic''
| __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| M728 || APDS || 260 || 258 || 250 || 240 || 231 || 222
|-
| M393A2 || HESH || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127
|-
| M456 || HEATFS || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| M728 || APDS || 1,426 || 4.65 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 75° || 78° || 80°
|-
| M393A2 || HESH || 732 || 14.85 || 0.1 || 4 || 4,310 || 73° || 77° || 80°
|-
| M456 || HEATFS || 1,173 || 10.5 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 1,270 || 65° || 72° || 77°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="7" | Smoke shell characteristics
|-
! Ammunition
! Velocity (m/s)
! Projectile Mass (kg)
! Screen radius (m)
! Screen deploy time (s)
! Screen hold time (s)
! Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
|-
| M416 || 730 || 11.4 || 20 || 5 || 25 || 50
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''57''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|5}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|4}}

{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|M85 (12.7 mm)|M73 (7.62 mm)|M1919A4 (7.62 mm)}}

''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| || ___ (___) || ___ || __° || __°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M85 (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M85]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| || ___ (___) || ___ || __° || __°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M73 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M73]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| || ___ (___) || ___ || __° || __°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M1919A4 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M1919A4]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| || ___ (___) || ___ || __° || __°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

With the Magach 6A being an M60A1, without the stabilizer, you loose an advantage against your enemies. Firing on the move will be difficult and your reaction time will be hindered, depending on the situation.

Similar to the Magach 6, try to play on the flanks, and/or away from the frontline. Be careful when you're on the move. Without the stabilizer, it will be significantly harder to shoot on the move. With the new turret, you will be able to bounce more shells than usual, even up to APDS shots, though don't rely on your armor heavily, especially if the enemies knows where your weak spots are located. Always expect to be penetrated by an enemy, unless you know you can shrug off a shot or two from them. The 105mm M68 cannon gains access to a new shell stock, M728. It's slightly worse on flat penetration than M392A2 but offers more angle penetration, and of course there is HEAT-FS to help overall, while having its own disadvantages.

In close quarters combat and urban environments, stick next and nearby teammates if you are going to the frontline or an objective. Lacking the stabilizer, will hinder your reaction time. Noticeable enemies to note are vehicles such as the T-55A/AM-1, all British MBTs such as the Centurion Mk10, and Leopard A1A1. Try to go around where a battle is taking place to catch the enemy off guard. Your armor will be slightly better than the Magach 6, but don't heavily rely on it, especially in close quarters combat where shells will be more effective than at range.

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* Access to 2 50. caliber HMGs, perfect for sheading air targets and lightly armored targets alike.
** The M2HB will always be a backup if your commander is knocked out.
* Very strong turret protection, can even stop rounds such as DM13, or even 3BM25
* Hunter-Killer system, commander can control the gun for a few seconds if the gunner is knocked out
* Great mobility and handling characteristics overall
* Great gun performance with APDS, and HEAT-FS

*

'''Cons:'''

* Unlike the M60A1 (AOS), the Magach 6A looses access to its stabilizer.
**
* Quite a big target compared to other adversaries
* Commander Cupola is a big weak spot for vehicles still using APHE
* Turret ring is a weak spot.
* Vulnerable to HEAT-FS and ATGM launchers
* Huge turret ammo rack when fully loaded.

*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{TankManufacturer Israeli Ordnance Corps}}
{{Israel medium tanks}}

Magach 6A

2022-06-06T17:25:46Z

U81285116:

{{About
| about = Israeli medium tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = Magach (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=il_magach_6a
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Wind of Change"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

'''Armour type:'''

* Cast homogeneous armour (hull, turret, roof)
* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull roof - engine compartment, hull rear - engine grille)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 93 mm (65°) ''Front glacis'' 137 mm (55°) ''Lower glacis - Top'' 117 mm (55°) ''Lower glacis - Bottom'' || 50 mm ''Front'' 45 mm ''Top'' 70 mm (cylindrical) ''Turret base'' 36-70 mm (18-34°) ''Middle'' 36 mm (60°) ''Bottom'' 19 mm (66-82°) ''Belly - Front half'' 13 mm (66-82°) ''Belly - Rear half'' 36 mm ''Rear'' || 25 mm (3°) ''Engine vents'' 40 mm (26°) ''Lower plate'' 28 mm (59°) ''Lower glacis'' 36 mm ''Hull sides''|| 93 mm (25°) ''Front glacis'' 36 mm (5°) ''Front'' 20-25 mm ''Engine compartment'' 10 mm ''Radiator vents''
|-
| Turret || 202 mm (spherical) ''Turret front - Loader side'' 170 mm (spherical) ''Turret front - Gunner side'' 152 mm (25°) ''Gun mantlet'' 114 mm (cylindrical) ''Turret ring'' || 40-90 mm (30-41°) ''Loader side'' 70-90 mm (18-33°) ''Gunner side'' || 50 mm (25°) || 48 mm (17°) ''Front'' 25 mm ''Centre & Rear''
|-
| Cupola || colspan="4" style="text-align:center" | 25.4 mm (spherical)
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels, tracks, and torsion bars are 20 mm thick.
* Belly armour is 19 mm thick in the front, 13 in the rear.
* Mudguards and storage boxes are 4 mm thick.

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.''

{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,162|rbMinHp=663}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|M68 (105 mm)}}

''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M68 (105 mm)|105 mm M68]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 57 || rowspan="2" | -9°/+19° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__
|-
! ''Realistic''
| __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| M728 || APDS || 260 || 258 || 250 || 240 || 231 || 222
|-
| M393A2 || HESH || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127
|-
| M456 || HEATFS || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| M728 || APDS || 1,426 || 4.65 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 75° || 78° || 80°
|-
| M393A2 || HESH || 732 || 14.85 || 0.1 || 4 || 4,310 || 73° || 77° || 80°
|-
| M456 || HEATFS || 1,173 || 10.5 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 1,270 || 65° || 72° || 77°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="7" | Smoke shell characteristics
|-
! Ammunition
! Velocity (m/s)
! Projectile Mass (kg)
! Screen radius (m)
! Screen deploy time (s)
! Screen hold time (s)
! Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
|-
| M416 || 730 || 11.4 || 20 || 5 || 25 || 50
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''57''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|5}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|4}}

{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|M85 (12.7 mm)|M73 (7.62 mm)|M1919A4 (7.62 mm)}}

''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| || ___ (___) || ___ || __° || __°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M85 (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M85]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| || ___ (___) || ___ || __° || __°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M73 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M73]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| || ___ (___) || ___ || __° || __°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M1919A4 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M1919A4]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| || ___ (___) || ___ || __° || __°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===

''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''

'''Pros:'''

* Access to 2 50. caliber HMGs, perfect for sheading air targets and lightly armored targets alike.
** The M2HB will always be a backup if your commander is knocked out.
* Very strong turret protection, can even stop rounds such as DM13, or even 3BM25
* Hunter-Killer system, commander can control the gun for a few seconds if the gunner is knocked out
* Great mobility overall

*

'''Cons:'''

* Unlike the M60A1 (AOS), the Magach 6A looses access to its stabilizer.
**
* Quite a big target compared to other adversaries
* Commander Cupola is a big weak spot for vehicles still using APHE
* Turret ring is a weak spot.
* Vulnerable to HEAT-FS and ATGM launchers

*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

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== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
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== External links ==

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{{TankManufacturer Israeli Ordnance Corps}}
{{Israel medium tanks}}

Magach 6

2022-06-06T03:42:20Z

U81285116: Added usage in battles and pros and cons

{{About
| about = Israeli medium tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = Magach (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=il_magach_6
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Wind of Change"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}} 

'''Armour type:'''

*Cast homogeneous armour
*Rolled homogeneous armour (Rear roof, Rear)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Armour!!Front (Slope Angle)!!Sides!!Rear!!Roof
|-
|Hull||93 mm (65°) ''Front Glacis''
143 mm (55°) ''Lower Glacis''
|74 mm||41 mm||20 mm
|-
|Turret||127 mm ''Turret front''
152 mm ''Gun Mantlet''
|100 mm - 50.8 mm||50.8 mm||24 mm
|-
|Cupola||35 mm||25.4 mm||25.4 mm||25.4 mm
|-
|}'''Notes:'''

'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.''

{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,162|rbMinHp=663}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|M68 (105 mm)}}

''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M68 (105 mm)|105 mm M68]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 57 || rowspan="2" | -9°/+19° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__
|-
! ''Realistic''
| __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| M392A2 || APDS || 303 || 302 || 296 || 277 || 257 || 252
|-
| M156 || HESH || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127
|-
| M152 || HEATFS || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| M392A2 || APDS || 1,478 || 4 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 75° || 78° || 80°
|-
| M156 || HESH || 732 || 14.85 || 0.1 || 4 || 4,310 || 73° || 77° || 80°
|-
| M152 || HEATFS || 1,173 || 10.5 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 1,270 || 65° || 72° || 77°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="7" | Smoke shell characteristics
|-
! Ammunition
! Velocity (m/s)
! Projectile Mass (kg)
! Screen radius (m)
! Screen deploy time (s)
! Screen hold time (s)
! Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
|-
| M416 || 730 || 11.4 || 20 || 5 || 25 || 50
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''57''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|FN MAG 60-40 (7.62 mm)|M73 (7.62 mm)}}

''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[FN MAG 60-40 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm FN MAG 60-40]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
|Commander's Hatch|| 1750 (200) || 600 || -10°/+50° || ±120°
|-
| Pintle Mount

(Loader Side)
| 1750 (200) || 600 || -10°/+50° || ±120°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M73 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M73]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial
| ___ (___) || ___ || __° || __°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The Magach 6 plays as the same as the M60, with a slight modifications for the Israeli. If you played the M60 before, then you will feel at home playing the Magach 6

Playing the Magach 6, try not to be at the frontlines of the battle too often and instead, stay a bit farther back, supporting your friendlies that are on the frontlines or provide flanking cover, where the enemy will least expect you to be. Make sure to stay cover to cover if possible, and hide behind hills to reduce the likelihood of being shot. The Magach 6 is quite a tall tank and can be easily spotted moving across terrain. Equipped with the M68 105mm cannon, the Magach 6 can make work of any tank. Usually your main shell will be APDS, as it offers the best overall performance, though HEAT-FS does offer more penetration but has its own set of disadvantages.

If on a map with close quarters battles/urban environments, such as Poland, try to go around and stay outside of the city, and on the flanks to find a position where ambushing enemies are possible. Be aware that most light tanks and certain medium tanks/MBTs can get to a position before you as they have better mobility than you. If you prefer being near the center of the battle, or a map such as Breslau, hang back a bit and support your teammates from the rear, and guard their flanks if needed. Armor at very close range is usually negated, and while you can shrug off a few AP rounds, medium and heavy tanks can still aim at your weak spots and render you out of combat. Try to have a battle buddy if aiming for an objective to reduce the chances of you being surprised/flank. Be aware of lighty armored vehicles such as BMPs or the R3 T106, as the Magach 6 does not have a 50. Caliber HMG unlike its American brother to gun them down, and will require you to time your shot correctly, if they start rushing you, but most likely they will try to play smart as at a quick glance at the Magach 6 will make the players think you are in an M60, where most American vehicles have 50. Caliber HMG on their medium tanks.

With the Magach 6 lacking a 50. Caliber HMG, it will be harder to shoot down air targets without the 50. cal and only having 3 7.62mm machine guns, though it's still better than nothing. With light tanks mentioned above, your main cannon is the only option to kill light tanks. HEAT-FS or HESH would be the best to knock out these light tanks, especially with HESH being able to overpressure tanks.

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* Great protection from the front hull against most solid AP rounds.
* Good mobility
* Great handling and turning maneuvers
* Good gun handling
* Great gun at its tier
* Slightly smaller cupola than the normal M60
** Keep in mind this is still a weak spot and APHE can KO your turret.

*

'''Cons:'''

* 12.7mm M85 HMG was removed
** Your 105mm cannon is the only option to kill lightly armored vehicles now, such as the R3 T106
** Air targets, will be much harder to kill, though they can still be damaged.
* Turret mantlet isn't heavily armored can be penned easily, even by late WW2 Vehicles.
* Turret ring is a noticeable weak spot
* Weak to HEAT-FS, APDS, and certain AP rounds (Maus, T-10M, IS-7 etc.)

*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
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== External links ==

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{{TankManufacturer Israeli Ordnance Corps}}
{{Israel medium tanks}}

2022-03-28T00:30:36Z

U81285116: Added Usage in battles and Pros and cons

{{Specs-Card
|code=germ_schutzenpanzer_puma
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Wind of Change"]].

The PUMA is a futuristic and unusual vehicle. It has a large profile, strong armor for an IFV, and weighs more than a [[T-72A]], but the mobility is still very good because of its impressive engine with more than 1,000 horsepower. The unmanned turret is equipped with a 30 mm autocannon with access to APFSDS and airburst rounds, reminiscent of the Swedish [[CV90 (Family)|CV90 family]]. The cherry on top is the MUSS soft-kill active protection system, which interferes with the guidance of incoming ATGMs. Although the PUMA is difficult to hide and is not particularly threatening to most MBTs from the front, it is a fairly tough target to destroy and can be a nightmare for enemy IFVs and helicopters, as it can shrug off most of their weapons and retaliate in turn.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

The Puma has mediocre armour at first sight, barely withstanding 12.7 mm rounds.. Its most protected piece is the 15 mm additional plate on the lower glacis. However, the spacing and modules make this vehicle a very capable one when it comes to survivability. The frontal glacis is in two parts, the upper area is 5 mm RHA sloped at 76 degrees and the lower one is 15 mm RHA sloped at 32 degrees. Both the upper and lower plates will not stop anything but SPAA ammunition at the battle rating and HEATFS projectiles. The lower glacis plate is not as strong since not sloped as much, but penetrating this plate will often result in shrapnel stopped by the engine deck.
[[File:Puma IFV vs 9M133.png|left|thumb|9M133 can be stopped by the composite array depending on the obliquity of the armour at LOS.]]
Thanks to the engine bay being on the front of the tank, it acts as a spaced armour to protect the crew from all sorts of attacks, along with the lower glacis composite armour and spall shields dividing the engine bay and the crew compartment. However, it comes at the expense of being lit on fire multiple times. The Puma has access to a powerful ERA that protects its sides. However, it is only effective on certain chemical munitions as the side armour of the Puma is non-existent. This armour is similar to the armour package seen on the skirts of the Challenger 2 and it offers a 500 mm protection against chemical munitions with a successful disruption up to 550 mm at 0° LOS. This protection is increased as the angling is higher. It is unable to fight against tandem warheads and ATGMs with a penetration above the stipulated.

The space inside the crew compartment offers a really good protection for chemical energy shells such as HEATFS, ATGMs and anti-tank grenades, having a similar effect as on the Class 3(P). This makes the Puma capable of withstanding hits of almost all HEATFS of the BR and even some ATGMs without fatal damage. It is also able to reduce the penetration or stop ATGM like the [[9M113 Konkurs]] and 9M112 (ATGM of the [[T-64B]]) although do not expect it to happen all the time, it depends on your angling, where the missile impacts and overpressure mechanics.

;MUSS Active Protection System

The Puma has access to an infra-red jammer, the MUSS APS. It is a constant active APS which provides protection against a wide variety of threats. The jamming device (commander's optics like system on the highest mount of the turret's roof) is mounted on the roof of the tank to cover the vulnerable frontal arc. It is called "Infrared Countermeasure" for the following reason: SACLOS guidance utilizes a beam-riding guidance which is connected to the GPS (gunner main sight in some cases, on others it is a different sight like on [[T-55AM-1]] and [[T-62M-1]]) which uses a flare as reference point for the guidance system in the ATGM. The missile moves with the gunner's sight and the flare tries to stay on the crosshairs. IRCM confuses the GPS with a brighter IR light decoy acting as the flare (the flare is also IR) which signals the ATGM to move to a different position nowhere near from the gunner's target. Furthermore, PUMA's MUSS active protection system provides a protective sphere around the vehicle against incoming missiles. The system works in a similar fashion to the Shtora system found on the Soviet T-90A and the EIREL system found on the French AMX-30B2 BRENUS. Contrary to the Soviet and French systems however, there is no need to point in the direction of the incoming threat however. Instead, the system is fully automatic and constantly surveys the 360 degrees of the vehicle's surroundings.

MUSS will jam SACLOS missiles including wire-guidance: <div style="column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3">

* [[3M7]] ([[IT-1]])
* [[9M17M Falanga]] ([[Mi-4AV]]/[[Mi-24A]])
* [[9M17P Falanga-PV]] ([[Mi-24D (USSR)|Mi-24D]])
* 9M112 ([[T-64B]] / [[T-80B]])
* [[9M113 Konkurs|9M113]] ([[BMP-1]]/[[SPz BMP-1]]/[[BMP-2]])
* [[9M114 Shturm]] ([[Shturm-S]]/Russian Helicopters)
* 9M117 ([[T-55AM-1]]/[[T-62M-1]]/[[BMP-3]])
* 9M119 ([[T-72B]]/[[T-72B (1989)]]/[[T-80U]])
* [[9M120 Ataka]] ([[Mi-35M]]/[[Mi-28N]]/[[Ka-52]])
* [[9M311]] ([[ZPRK 2S6]])
* [[BGM-71A TOW]]
* [[BGM-71B TOW]]
* [[BGM-71C I-TOW]]
* [[AS.11]]
* [[HOT-1]]
* [[HOT-2 TOW]]
* [[HOT-3]] ([[EC-665 Tiger HAD]]/[[EC-665 Tiger HAP]]/[[EC-665 Tiger UHT]])
* MGM-51B ([[M551 Sheridan|M551]]/[[M60A2]])
* MGM-51C ([[XM-803]]/[[MBT-70]]/[[KPz-70]])
* [[Swingfire]] ([[Swingfire]]/[[Striker]])
* [[MILAN]] ([[Marder A1-]]/[[Ratel 20]]/[[Warrior]])
* [[HJ-73E]] ([[ZBD86]])
* [[Type 79]] ([[Type 89]])
* [[Roland]] ([[FlaRakPz 1]]/[[Roland 1]]/[[FlaRakRad]])
* [[VT1]] ([[FlaRakRad]]/[[ItO 90M]])
* ACRA ([[AMX-30 ACRA]])
* [[Rbs 55]] ([[UDES 33]]/[[Pvrbv 551]])
* [[Rbs 56]] ([[Strf 9040 BILL]])</div>

Laser-guided missiles (AGM-114 Hellfire, MIM146 ADATS, etc) will not be jammed by MUSS. In order to let the APS work, it must be turned on with a key in the control section. The APS module can be destroyed.

MUSS can be used while on the move. While on the move (specially horizontally), the jammed ATGM will move in an uncontrolled direction like normal jamming but riskier, keep this in mind as it can hit a track, engine deck or close enough to create fragmentation and spot the Puma and/or friendlies. When moving forward to an enemy who fired an ATGM, it will be affected by the APS but due to the momentum, the ATGM can hit the Puma if the ATGM is redirected towards the ground. MUSS creates a thermal signature which can be seen with thermal sights. It also can also be used as an IR spotlight. It should be noted that this can be a disadvantage when in night maps as tanks with NVD (except when tanks are using thermal view) will be able to see the light beam. The APS should be turned on and off at commander's discretion. When on day maps, this will not be an issue. MUSS must have a clear line-of-sight with the enemy launcher (at least enemy sights must be able to see the tank). Tanks firing behind cover like the Swingfire can also be affected by the APS. As long as the enemy is within the jamming arc, the Puma will be protected against SACLOS ATGMs. It should be noted that the Puma has access to Laser Warning Receiver (LWR), so the player does not need to rely on visual contact with the ATGM and the launcher. Thankfully, the thermal sights will be capable of detecting the fireball created by the ATGMs at certain distances.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, slat)
* High hardness rolled armour (turret)
* Aliminium alloy 7039 (turret)
* Composite screen (hull roof)
* Bulletproof glass (rear door pane)
* ERA/NERA (hull sides)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 15+5 mm (76°) ''Upper glacis - Top'' 15 mm (61°) ''Upper glacis - Bottom'' 15 mm (58-60°) ''Lower glacis'' || 15 mm (13°) ''Top'' 10+15 mm ''Bottom'' || 15 mm (10-15°) 60 mm (13°) ''Door window'' || 15+5 mm (14°) ''Front glacis'' 15+30 mm ''Fighting compartment'' 10 mm ''Radiator vent''
|-
| Turret || 25 mm ''Turret front'' 10 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 25+15 mm || 25+15 mm || 15+5 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels, tracks, and torsion bars are 20 mm thick.
* Belly armour is 15 mm thick.
* ERA and NERA panels cover the sides of the PUMA:

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Sides
|-
| Hull || '''ERA''': 340 mm ''Top'' '''NERA''': 100+150 mm ''Radiator vent'' '''NERA''': 250 mm ''Bottom''
|-
|}

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.''

{{tankMobility}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|MK 30-2/ABM (30 mm)}}

''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[MK 30-2/ABM (30 mm)|30 mm MK 30-2/ABM]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 400 (100) || rowspan="2" | 200 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+45° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__ || rowspan="2" | _.__
|-
! ''Realistic''
| __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====

* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|APDS|Armour-piercing discarding sabot}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEI-T*|High-explosive incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEI-T*|High-explosive incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}
* '''MK266:''' {{Annotation|HEI-T*|High-explosive incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}
* '''PMC308:''' {{Annotation|HEI-T|High-explosive incendiary tracer}}
* '''PMC287:''' {{Annotation|APFSDS|Armour-piercing fin-stabilized discarding sabot}}

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="7" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Belt
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Default || 87 || 86 || 81 || 75 || 70 || 65
|-
| MK266 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3
|-
| PMC308 || 47 || 44 || 36 || 28 || 22 || 17
|-
| PMC287 || 121 || 119 || 111 || 97 || 93 || 83
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| MK266 || HEI-T* || 1,080 || 0.36 || 0 || 0.1 || 54.4 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| PMC308 || HEI-T || 1,100 || 0.36 || 0.2 || 1.5 || 0.8 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| PMC287 || APFSDS || 1,405 || 0.1 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''4''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}

{{main|MG4 (5.56 mm)}}

''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[MG4 (5.56 mm)|5.56 mm MG4]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 2,000 (1,000) || 890 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==
The PUMA IFV is an effective vehicle against all types of targets, and even the heaviest of tanks such as the T-10M can even be defeated with a flanking maneuvre with APFSDS to the direct side at point blank. The best way to play the PUMA IFV is to go on the flank, using its mobility to get to places quickly. It has access to generation 2 thermals for the gunner and commander, and a very good optic which makes sniping an easy job to do. With the crewless turret, you can easily sit hull down in most positions which makes it hard for your enemies to effectively target you, though you are a big target, so it's best to be aware on the move. Another way to play is being a support vehicle and slightly being aggressive, where you can support your teammates at the frontline aiming for weak spots of enemies with APFSDS, or flanking them as the APFSDS can cut through easy weak spots and the sides and rear of enemies. While the PUMA can survive and soak up shots due to the empty space inside the vehicle, you can still be disabled by an engine shot, or a well placed shot to the side where all your crew is packed together. The PUMA provides good protection against most chemical warhead weapons aside from tandem charged warheads, as the PUMA is equipped with a mix of CLARA Explosive Reactive Armor, and composite armor. It may occasionally bounce early APDS and APFSDS to the angle of the frontal armor but it's best to still play cautiously as no vehicle is invincible.
=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* Access to IRCM that can disrupt most missiles.
* ERA on the side of the tank that will stop any chemical warheads.
* Crewless turret that can enable you to hull down effectively
* Empty space in the hull that can absorb shots.
* Access to APFSDS for an autocannon.
* Good mobility for its size.
* Blowout Panel for the turret.
* Very good optics
* Generation 2 Thermals for Commander and Gunner
* Laser Warning System to alert you of incoming fire from tanks or helicopters.

*

'''Cons:'''

* Big target for its vehicle type.
* Fire rate is subpar compared to most of its counterparts.
* Has a timed HEI-T shell instead of HE-VT.
* IRCM can be spotted easily in NVD and Thermal sights.
* No access to ATGMs unlike its counterparts.
* Stock belt is subpar for defeating ground vehicles.
* Engine area is in the front, which can easily be disabled.

*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7604-development-puma-a-muss-have-en|[Devblog] PUMA: A "MUSS" Have]]

{{Germany light tanks}}

M242 (25 mm)

2022-03-26T20:19:06Z

U81285116: Basic description, Table for ammunition, usage in battles, comparison, and pros and cons.

Akan m/70B (40 mm)

2022-03-25T13:28:26Z

U81285116: Added a usage in battles.

{{DISPLAYTITLE:akan m/70B (40 mm)}}
== Description ==

The '''40 mm Akan m/70B''' is a Swedish auto cannon based off the Bofors 40mm L/70 used on STRF 9040 series of IFVs.

=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===


* {{Specs-Link|sw_lvkv_90c}}
* {{Specs-Link|sw_strf_9056}}
* {{Specs-Link|sw_strf_90b}}
* {{Specs-Link|sw_strf_90c}}

== General info ==
The Akan m/70B is an upgraded variant of the Bofors 40mm L/60 with a higher RPM and is fielded with modern ammunition.

=== Available ammunition ===

{| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="8" |Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" |Ammunition
! rowspan="2" |Type of warhead
! colspan="6" |Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
!10 m!!100 m!!500 m!!1,000 m!!1,500 m!!2,000 m
|-
|slpprj m/90||APFSDS||143||142||137||130||123||116
|-
|slsgr m/90||HE||5||5||5||5||5||5
|-
|kulsgr m/90||HE-VT*||5||5||5||5||5||5
|-
|slpprj m/01||APFSDS||170||168||162||154||146||138
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="10" |Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" |Ammunition
! rowspan="2" |Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" |Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" |Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" |Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" |Ricochet
|-
!0%
!50%
!100%
|-
|slpprj m/90||APFSDS||1,465||0.5||N/A||N/A||N/A||78°||80°||81°
|-
|slsgr m/90||HE||988||0.96||0||0.1||174.4||79°||80°||81°
|-
|kulsgr m/90||HE-VT*||1,015||0.88||0||0.1||190.8||79°||80°||81°
|-
|slpprj m/01||APFSDS||1,495||0.53||N/A||N/A||N/A||78°||80°||81°
|}

=== Comparison with analogues ===

* [[Bofors L/60 (40 mm)|40mm Bofors L/60]]: An auto cannon where the Bofors 40mm L/70 is derived from.
* [[M266 (40 mm)|M266 (40mm)]]: An American variant of the Bofors L/70 used on the [[M247|M247 "Sergeant York"]]
* [[Bofors L/70 Mk.1 (57 mm)|Bofors L/70 Mk.1 (57mm)]]: An up scaled 57mm variant with more firepower found on the [[Begleitpanzer 57]].
* [[Lvakan m/48 (40 mm)]]: A variant of the Bofors L/70 (40mm) found on Swedish SPAA

== Usage in battles ==
The Akan m/70B is a multi purpose auto cannon. Using APFSDS means that you can eliminate a well protected MBT, even from the front if a weakspot is penetrated, although flanking maneuvers are better suited as the post penetration damage is poor with APFSDS. Lighter targets such as IFVs and SPAAs will stand no chance against this auto cannon with its fast fire rate and its APFSDS. The Akan m/70B is also equipped with HE-VT, able to deal with helicopters and against jets. Best to use HE-VT against aircraft proceeding on their attack run, and catching them off guard.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* Has access to APFSDS which can knock out any opponents it faces.
* Has access to HE-VT which can deal with any helicopters and aircraft.
* High fire rate.
* Good penetration for an autocannon.
* High ammo count.

* '''Cons:'''
* Easy to go through the 24 stage ready rack.
* Post penetration damage with APFSDS is poor.
* Slpprj m/01 can be expensive to field.

== History ==
''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.''

== Media ==
''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
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{{Sweden tank cannons}}
{{Sweden anti-aircraft guns}}

[[Category:Tank cannons]]
[[Category:Anti-aircraft guns]]

Akan m/70B (40 mm)

2022-03-25T12:48:20Z

U81285116: Added a Description, two table charts, compared cannons and a pros and cons list.

{{DISPLAYTITLE:akan m/70B (40 mm)}}
== Description ==
The Akan m/70B is a Swedish auto cannon based off the Bofors 40mm L/70 used on STRF 9040 series of IFVs.

=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===


* {{Specs-Link|sw_lvkv_90c}}
* {{Specs-Link|sw_strf_9056}}
* {{Specs-Link|sw_strf_90b}}
* {{Specs-Link|sw_strf_90c}}

== General info ==
''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.''

=== Available ammunition ===

{| class="wikitable sortable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="8" |Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" |Ammunition
! rowspan="2" |Type of
warhead
! colspan="6" |Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
!10 m!!100 m!!500 m!!1,000 m!!1,500 m!!2,000 m
|-
|slpprj m/90||APFSDS||143||142||137||130||123||116
|-
|slsgr m/90||HE||5||5||5||5||5||5
|-
|kulsgr m/90||HE-VT*||5||5||5||5||5||5
|-
|slpprj m/01||APFSDS||170||168||162||154||146||138
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! colspan="10" |Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" |Ammunition
! rowspan="2" |Type of

warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity

(m/s)
! rowspan="2" |Projectile

Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" |Fuse delay

(m)
! rowspan="2" |Fuse sensitivity

(mm)
! rowspan="2" |Explosive Mass

(TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" |Ricochet
|-
!0%
!50%
!100%
|-
|slpprj m/90
|APFSDS
|1,465
|0.5
|N/A
|N/A
|N/A
|78°
|80°
|81°
|-
|slsgr m/90
|HE
|988
|0.96
|0
|0.1
|174.4
|79°
|80°
|81°
|-
|kulsgr m/90
|HE-VT*
|1,015
|0.88
|0
|0.1
|190.8
|79°
|80°
|81°
|-
|slpprj m/01
|APFSDS
|1,495
|0.53
|N/A
|N/A
|N/A
|78°
|80°
|81°
|}

=== Comparison with analogues ===

* [[Bofors L/60 (40 mm)|40mm Bofors L/60]]: An auto cannon where the Bofors 40mm L/70 is derived from.
* [[M266 (40 mm)|M266 (40mm)]]: An American variant of the Bofors L/70 used on the [[M247|M247 "Sergeant York"]]
* [[Bofors L/70 Mk.1 (57 mm)|Bofors L/70 Mk.1 (57mm)]]: An up scaled 57mm variant with more firepower found on the [[Begleitpanzer 57]].
* [[Lvakan m/48 (40 mm)]]: A variant of the Bofors L/70 (40mm) found on Swedish SPAA

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.''

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* Has access to APFSDS which can knock out any opponents it faces.
* Has access to HE-VT which can deal with any helicopters and aircraft.
* High fire rate.
* Good penetration for an autocannon.
* High ammo count.
* '''Cons:'''

* Easy to go through the 24 stage ready rack.
* Post penetration damage with APFSDS is poor.
* Slpprj m/01 can be expensive to field.

*

== History ==
''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.''

== Media ==
''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''encyclopedia page on the weapon;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Sweden tank cannons}}
{{Sweden anti-aircraft guns}}

[[Category:Tank cannons]]
[[Category:Anti-aircraft guns]]

User:U81285116

2022-03-23T14:37:06Z

U81285116: Just a test

Testing this thing

GSh-6-30 (30 mm)

2022-03-23T14:35:30Z

U81285116: Added a basic description, some cannons comparable and a basic pro and cons.

== Description ==
The GSh-6-30 is a Soviet developed 30mm rotary cannon using a gas operated system.

=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===


* {{Specs-Link|mig_27k}}
* {{Specs-Link|mig_27m}}

== General info ==
''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.''

=== Available ammunition ===
''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).''

=== Comparison with analogues ===

* [[GSh-30-2K (30 mm)|GSh-30-2K]] (30mm): A Russian 30mm cannon using the Gast principle with a slightly lower fire rate. Found on the Mi-24P.
* [[GSh-23-2 (23 mm)|GSh-23-2]] (23mm): A Russian 23mm cannon using the Gast principle with a slightly lower fire rate and firepower. Found on various Russian Aircraft.
* [[GAU-13/A (30 mm)|GAU-13/A]] (30mm): An American 30mm rotary cannon based off the the GAU-8. Similar performance and fire rate.
* [[M61 (20 mm)|M61 Vulcan]] (20mm): An American 20mm rotary cannon. Similar fire rate but offers slightly less firepower.

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.''

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarise and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.''

'''Pros:'''

* Very high fire rate
* Good muzzle velocity
* Good damage against both ground and air targets
* Access to APHE, killing soft and medium targets in a short burst.

*

'''Cons:'''

* Limited ammo capacity

*

== History ==
''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.''

== Media ==
''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
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{{USSR aircraft cannons}}

[[Category:Aircraft cannons]]

GSh-30-2K (30 mm)

2022-03-23T13:59:31Z

U81285116: Added more cannons in the comparison tab

Mi-24P

2022-03-23T13:22:12Z

U81285116: /* Survivability and armour */

{{About
| about = Russian attack helicopter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = Mi-24 (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=mi_24p
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
|cockpit=cockpit_mi_24p.jpg
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Russian attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.81 "The Valkyries"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Heli-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 1,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 310 || 292 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
! Upgraded
| 359 || 335
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Heli-Armour}}
The Mi-24P Hind is protected by 4mm steel plates near the cockpit area, and the engine area, giving it decent protection against small MG fire, and shrapnel. The cockpit is protected by 60mm of bulletproof glass, though it's only on the front and the pilot can be knocked out easily with a spray of MG fire. Same can be applied to the gunner too. It can survive direct shots, especially if the enemy hits the crew compartment due to the empty space of that area, though there is fuel underneath the crew compartment and can be set on fire if it is hit. HE/HE-VT, ATGMs, SAMS and AAMs are usually detrimental to the Hind and can bring it down easily, though MANPADs such as Stingers and Iglas can be tanked as they have lower explosive power but they can render the Hind critically damaged/disabled and needing to return to base.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Heli-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Cross}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Offensive}}

{{main|GSh-30-2K (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between four presets:
** 1 x 30 mm GSh-30-2K cannon (250 rpg)
** 1 x 30 mm GSh-30-2K cannon (250 rpg) + HIRSS
** 1 x 30 mm GSh-30-2K cannon (250 rpg) + HIRSS + 192 x countermeasures
** 1 x 30 mm GSh-30-2K cannon (250 rpg) + HIRSS + 192 x countermeasures + IRCM

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Suspended}}

{{main|OFAB-250sv (250 kg)|FAB-500M-54 (500 kg)|GSh-23L (23 mm)}}
{{main|9M114 Shturm|R-60|R-60M|S-8KO|S-24B}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 80 x S-8KO rockets
* 4 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-54 bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 4 x S-24B rockets
* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 80 x S-8KO rockets
* 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
* 4 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 1,000 total)
* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 4 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 1,000 total)
* 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets
* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 4 x S-24B rockets
* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 4 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 2 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (500 kg total)
* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-54 bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-54 bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 8 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 500 total)
* 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets + 2 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 500 total)
* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 2 x R-60 missiles
* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 2 x R-60 missiles + 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 4 x R-60 missiles
* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 4 x R-60 missiles + 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 2 x R-60M missiles
* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 2 x R-60M missiles + 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles
* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 4 x R-60M missiles
* 40 x S-8KO rockets + 4 x R-60M missiles + 4 x 9M114 Shturm missiles

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in a helicopter, the features of using the helicopter in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* 30 mm cannon provides great offensive/defensive capabilities against lightly armoured vehicles and air targets
* Very flexible payload
* R60M missile is very effective against close flying targets
* 9M114 Shturm ATGM can be fired from 5 km away, making most AA useless
* Has access to RWR, HIRSS, IRCM, flares/chaff and a ballistic computer
* Can easily reach 300 km/h with a full payload
* Armoured plates increase protection for the engine, transmission and the crew

'''Cons:'''

* Large profile and lack of manoeuvrability makes it an easy target
* Fixed 30 mm cannon may be hard to aim at air targets for inexperienced players
* Lacks thermal and night vision sight for gunner

== History ==


Mi-24 development started in the early 1960s by Mil Moscow Helicopter Plant company, with a very controversial start. Several Soviet officers believed that conventional weapons were a safer choice to spend money in. But seeing the successful use of armed helicopters in Vietnam by the US Army convinced the Soviets about the capacities of armed helicopters, thus showing support for Mil's project.

Two prototypes were eventually created: a 7-ton single-engine design and a 10.5-ton twin-engined one. In May 1968, the twin-engine mock up was chosen for further development. The project made its first flight in September 1968, and entered service bearing the name of Mi-24 in 1972.

The Mi-24P variant was a later development of the Mi-24D, featuring a new fixed 30 mm twin-barrel GSh-30-2K cannon instead of the old 12.7 mm machine gun turret.

The helicopter first saw combat service in Ogaden War and in the Chadian-Libyan Conflict, used by the Ethiopian and Libyan forces respectively. The Mi-24 proved to be very effective in ground infantry support duties, even managing to save a company of infantry while out of ammunition, scaring the rebels by manoeuvring aggressively towards them! It was very popular among the ground troops.

The Mi-24P's modernized variant, the [[Mi-35M]], is still in use to this day in various countries, including Russia.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=ussr&vehicleType=helicopter&vehicleClass=attack_helicopter&vehicle=mi_24p Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|lTR8bhL4BUc|'''The Mi-24 Family''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 5:15 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|6QZAY1EtkFU|'''The Shooting Range #110''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 10:26 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the helicopter;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
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{{AirManufacturer Mil}}
{{USSR helicopters}}

GSh-30-2K (30 mm)

2022-03-23T12:31:05Z

U81285116: /* Comparison with analogues */

== Description ==
The '''Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-2''' ('''ГШ-30-2''') or '''GSh-2-30''' is a dual barrel autocannon developed in the Soviet Union using the Gast Principle. It was introduced in [[Update 1.81 "The Valkyries"]] with the introduction of the [[Mi-24P]].

=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===


* {{Specs-Link|mi_24p}}
* {{Specs-Link|mi_24p_german}}
* {{Specs-Link|mi_24p_german_hfs80}}

== General info ==
The '''Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-2''' ('''ГШ-30-2''') or '''GSh-30-2''' is a dual barrel autocannon developed in the Soviet Union using the Gast Principle similar to the [[GSh-23-2 (23 mm)|GSh-23-2]]. Although the cannon was originally developed for the ground attack aircraft, the SU-25, it was eventually modified with a longer water cooled barrel, along with a variable fire rate selector and applied to the Mi-24P family of helicopters as the GSh-30-2K.

=== Available ammunition ===


* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|APHE|Armour-piercing high-explosive}}
* '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|APHE|Armour-piercing high-explosive}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}
* '''Ground targets:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|APHE|Armour-piercing high-explosive}}
* '''Air targets:''' {{Annotation|APHE|Armour-piercing high-explosive}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="7" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Belt
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Default || 60 || 55 || 42 || 31 || 27 || 24
|-
| Universal || 65 || 60 || 50 || 40 || 30 || 24
|-
| Ground targets || 65 || 60 || 50 || 40 || 30 || 24
|-
| Air targets || 60 || 55 || 42 || 31 || 27 || 24
|-
|}

=== Comparison with analogues ===

* [[GSh-23L (23 mm)|GSh-23L]] (23mm): Both cannons uses the same Gast Principle, although the GSh-30-2 has more firepower than its 23mm brother.
* [[GSh-6-30 (30 mm)|GSh-6-30]] (30mm): A rotory cannon of the same caliber. Offers a higher fire rate than the GSh-30-2.

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.''

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarise and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.''

'''Pros:'''

* Good belt options for both air and ground units.
* Access to APHE with decent penetration, can one shot light and medium targets with a burst of bullets.
* Variable fire rate option, can conserve ammo on "low" setting.
* Good velocity (940m/s).

*

'''Cons:'''

* 250 rounds of ammunition; careless usage will result in ammo running out quickly.

*

== History ==
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== Media ==
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== See also ==
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GSh-30-2K (30 mm)

2022-03-23T12:30:46Z

U81285116: Added two cannons in the comparison tab.

== Description ==
The '''Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-2''' ('''ГШ-30-2''') or '''GSh-2-30''' is a dual barrel autocannon developed in the Soviet Union using the Gast Principle. It was introduced in [[Update 1.81 "The Valkyries"]] with the introduction of the [[Mi-24P]].

=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===


* {{Specs-Link|mi_24p}}
* {{Specs-Link|mi_24p_german}}
* {{Specs-Link|mi_24p_german_hfs80}}

== General info ==
The '''Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-2''' ('''ГШ-30-2''') or '''GSh-30-2''' is a dual barrel autocannon developed in the Soviet Union using the Gast Principle similar to the [[GSh-23-2 (23 mm)|GSh-23-2]]. Although the cannon was originally developed for the ground attack aircraft, the SU-25, it was eventually modified with a longer water cooled barrel, along with a variable fire rate selector and applied to the Mi-24P family of helicopters as the GSh-30-2K.

=== Available ammunition ===


* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|APHE|Armour-piercing high-explosive}}
* '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|APHE|Armour-piercing high-explosive}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}
* '''Ground targets:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|APHE|Armour-piercing high-explosive}}
* '''Air targets:''' {{Annotation|APHE|Armour-piercing high-explosive}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="7" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Belt
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Default || 60 || 55 || 42 || 31 || 27 || 24
|-
| Universal || 65 || 60 || 50 || 40 || 30 || 24
|-
| Ground targets || 65 || 60 || 50 || 40 || 30 || 24
|-
| Air targets || 60 || 55 || 42 || 31 || 27 || 24
|-
|}

=== Comparison with analogues ===
[[GSh-23L (23 mm)|GSh-23L]] (23mm): Both cannons uses the same Gast Principle, although the GSh-30-2 has more firepower than its 23mm brother.

[[GSh-6-30 (30 mm)|GSh-6-30]] (30mm): A rotory cannon of the same caliber. Offers a higher fire rate than the GSh-30-2.

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.''

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarise and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.''

'''Pros:'''

* Good belt options for both air and ground units.
* Access to APHE with decent penetration, can one shot light and medium targets with a burst of bullets.
* Variable fire rate option, can conserve ammo on "low" setting.
* Good velocity (940m/s).

*

'''Cons:'''

* 250 rounds of ammunition; careless usage will result in ammo running out quickly.

*

== History ==
''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.''

== Media ==
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== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
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[[Category:Aircraft cannons]]

GSh-30-2K (30 mm)

2022-03-23T12:14:11Z

U81285116: Added some pros and cons along with general description

== Description ==
The '''Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-2''' ('''ГШ-30-2''') or '''GSh-2-30''' is a dual barrel autocannon developed in the Soviet Union using the Gast Principle. It was introduced in [[Update 1.81 "The Valkyries"]] with the introduction of the [[Mi-24P]].

=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===


* {{Specs-Link|mi_24p}}
* {{Specs-Link|mi_24p_german}}
* {{Specs-Link|mi_24p_german_hfs80}}

== General info ==
The '''Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-2''' ('''ГШ-30-2''') or '''GSh-30-2''' is a dual barrel autocannon developed in the Soviet Union using the Gast Principle similar to the [[GSh-23-2 (23 mm)|GSh-23-2]]. Although the cannon was originally developed for the ground attack aircraft, the SU-25, it was eventually modified with a longer water cooled barrel, along with a variable fire rate selector and applied to the Mi-24P family of helicopters as the GSh-30-2K.

=== Available ammunition ===


* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|APHE|Armour-piercing high-explosive}}
* '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|APHE|Armour-piercing high-explosive}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}
* '''Ground targets:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|APHE|Armour-piercing high-explosive}}
* '''Air targets:''' {{Annotation|APHE|Armour-piercing high-explosive}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="7" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Belt
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Default || 60 || 55 || 42 || 31 || 27 || 24
|-
| Universal || 65 || 60 || 50 || 40 || 30 || 24
|-
| Ground targets || 65 || 60 || 50 || 40 || 30 || 24
|-
| Air targets || 60 || 55 || 42 || 31 || 27 || 24
|-
|}

=== Comparison with analogues ===
''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.''

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.''

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarise and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.''

'''Pros:'''

* Good belt options for both air and ground units.
* Access to APHE with decent penetration, can one shot light and medium targets with a burst of bullets.
* Variable fire rate option, can conserve ammo on "low" setting.
* Good velocity (940m/s).

*

'''Cons:'''

* 250 rounds of ammunition; careless usage will result in ammo running out quickly.

*

== History ==
''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.''

== Media ==
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== See also ==
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* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
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[[Category:Aircraft cannons]]

M42 (Italy)

2020-06-02T21:38:32Z

U81285116: Added a general statement on survivability and armor, as well as improving the usage on combat areas. Added one more con, with less cannon shells per gun.

{{Specs-Card|code=it_m15_42_contraereo}}
{{About
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| usage = other usages
| link = M42 (Disambiguation)
}}

== Description ==

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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (shortened as just '''{{Specs|pseudonym}}''', also nicknamed "Quadruplo"), is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian self-propelled anti-aircraft gun {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
The M42 Contraereo is based off the M15/42 hull with an opened top turret, surrounding the crew members. The gunner does have an exposed spot in the front, and if shown correctly to the enemy, can be machined gunned easily without them to have to fire their main cannon. The turret may protect you from small rifle caliber bullets, but 50. caliber and up, especially on the M4 Sherman will be able to penetrate your turret from anywhere, as it is generally weak against them. The hull armor is decent, still keeping the armor from the M15/42 hull, but don't expect to tank a lot of shots, as most of your enemies you will face at 3.3 will have better caliber weapons, with mostly encountering 75mm and Russian 76.2mm cannons. You may be able to bounce some smaller caliber shells like the 37mm cannons but don't rely on your hull armor as your turret will most likely be targeted by the enemy. You have a small crew count of 3 members, and with two in the turret, and having okay armor, you'll usually die in one hit.

=== Mobility ===


{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 263|rbMinHp= 164}}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|Scotti-IF 20/70 mod.41 (20 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Scotti-IF 20/70 mod.41 (20 mm)|20 mm Scotti-IF 20/70 mod.41]] (x4)
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity each)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="2" | 3,200 (12) || 600 || -5°/+90° || ±180° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 52.8 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 35.7 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 5.2 || __.__ || __.__ || 4.0
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Granata mod.35 || HEFI-T || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2
|-
| Perforante mod.35 || API-T || 40 || 38 || 29 || 20 || 14 || 10
|-
| PzGr 40 || HVAP-T || 64 || 63 || 29 || 20 || 14 || 10
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Granata mod.35 || HEFI-T || 830 || 0.14 || 0.3 || 0.1 || 3 || ° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Perforante mod.35 || API-T || 832 || 0.14 || 1.3 || 15 || 1 || ° || 47° || 60° || 65°
|-
| PzGr 40 || HVAP-T ||1,050||0.1||N/A||N/A||N/A||+1.5°||66°||70°||72°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| 268 || 253 ''(+15)'' || ''9 (+259)'' || 6 ''(+262)'' || 3 ''(+265)'' || 0 ''(+268)'' || style="text-align:left" | No
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

In Realistic battles, the Quadruplo is best used in the support role when tank hunting, sticking with teammates, assisting them and potentially distracting the enemy .Your best bet of killing any tank, usually a Sherman, Cromwell or T-34 is from the side as the APCR will pierce through their side armor, killing the tank. Light tanks such as M24s, Stuarts and Crusaders are able to be penetrated by the front, but usually this is only in close range engagements. T-50 and other slightly armored light tanks will be tougher to kill, but you're still able to flank them. You can kill basically any SPAA you see, as you'll usually encounter trucks or armored cars. Ambush and surprise tactics are good options to kill tanks effectively, as the enemy will stroll pass you, usually showing their side armor. Aggressive play styles are suggested to get the most out of the Quadruplo, similar when playing a Wirbelwind when tank hunting. Try not to expose yourself too much and move from cover to cover, as one hit from a tank shell, usually APHE will knock you out in one shot, or the machine guns pierce your turret armor and kill both your gunner and commander. When it comes to shooting down planes in the Quadruplo, it is best to get their attention so they try to strafe you, or surprise them as they come closer to you, when you have a good shot as they won't have enough reaction time to evade your shots if they connect. Be mindful that you are opened topped, and you'll less likely ti survive a strafe run. Despite the guns having a high fire rate, and being close together, the Quadruplo has a lower ammo count per gun with 12 with each gun, having a 48 in total loaded (essentially a discount Wirbelwind). It is easy to burn through it, so make sure you have a good shot on the aircraft you are trying to shoot down as you'll only have about 3-4 seconds of continuous fire before needing to reload.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* PzGr 40 shells are great at penetrating tanks from the sides and knocking out modules
* High mobility when spaded
* Great armour for a SPAA
* Guns have a very high rate of fire
* Guns are placed very close together

'''Cons:'''

* PzGr 40 is tier IV modification
* Performance is inadequate when stock
* Gap in the gunner's position of the turret armour
* Turret can be penetrated by .50 cals heavy machine guns
* High rate of fire makes it more difficult to adjust fire against planes

* 3 crew members, all in turret

* Low magazine count for the guns (12 ammo per cannon)

== History ==


A prototype AA tank based on the M15/42 medium tank. The single prototype was captured by Germany upon Italy's surrender in September, 1943. Some sources have claimed it served as inspiration for the German Wirbelwind AA tank, which first saw service in mid-1944.

== Media ==
''An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

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