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A-7D

2021-05-17T18:43:45Z

U80920085: /* Usage in battles */

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|code=a_7d
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Hot Tracks"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 1,115 || 1,110 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 35.4 || 37.1 || 42.6 || 42.3 || rowspan="2" | 1,000
|-
! Upgraded
| 1,132 || 1,123 || 34.6 || 35.0 || 68.4 || 55.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} ||484||457||406|| ~10 || ~4
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 700 || < 690 || < 500 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="6" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Basic Mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | Allison TF-41-A-1 || 1
| colspan="3" | 9,101 kg || colspan="3" | 382 kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="5" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 15m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 45m fuel || 50m fuel
|-
| 1,592 kg || colspan="2" | Low-bypass turbofan
| 10,361 kg || 10,781 kg || 11,902 kg || 12,882 kg || 13,302 kg || 19,051 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="6" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (102%)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 15m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 45m fuel || 50m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 6,073 kgf || N/A
| 0.59 || 0.56 || 0.51 || 0.47 || 0.46 || 0.32
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 6,134 kgf (200 km/h) || N/A
| 0.59 || 0.57 || 0.52 || 0.48 || 0.46 || 0.32
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

Design characteristics of the {{PAGENAME}} put its survivability in a mixed bag. While it has all the necessary traits to survive in a missile-frequent battle-rating, the plane design leaves survival beyond a hit minimal.

The radar warning receiver comes default with the plane, meaning it will be able to sense when an enemy plane has pinged it during its radar search, or is locking on for a {{annotation|SARH|Semi-Active Radar-Homing}} missile. This can give enough heads-up to an {{PAGENAME}} pilot to react appropriately to the situation.

Once upgrading the {{PAGENAME}} through Tier I modifications, the {{PAGENAME}} can acquire flares to use in the event when an aircraft gets on the {{PAGENAME}} tail (which will be frequent given the {{PAGENAME}}'s poor turn rate) and fires an infrared missile. This can be really useful to thwart off a missile-run by an enemy diving onto the {{PAGENAME}}. The {{PAGENAME}} receives a large amount of flares too, with 120 units able to be expended, meaning that the {{PAGENAME}} can keep infrared missiles off for quite some time.

These flares can help out when using the {{PAGENAME}} to penetrate enemy lines and to reach distant ground target such as bases or the such. Such an attack will inevitably be discovered by the enemy high-performance jets at this battle-rating. One way to use the flares in this situation is to activate "Periodic Flares Release" control so that the flare automatically come out of the aircraft when the enemy begins closing in. While it may illuminate the {{PAGENAME}} to other enemy's visuals, it will deter easy infrared missile shots so that an enemy 3-5 kilometers behind the {{PAGENAME}} can't just carelessly pop off a missile and know it is a certain hit. This should allow enough time for the {{PAGENAME}} to successfully drop its payload onto its target and fly off hoping to either make it back to the airfield safety or make it into a friendly airspace envelope safely. However, without much external aid, it will be hard to shake off tailing enemy that follows through from the beginning of the attack run to its aftermath.
[[File:A-7D Wing Fuel Tank.jpg|x250px|thumb|The large, not self-sealing, wing fuel tank in the A-7D.]]

However, the overall {{PAGENAME}} design leaves no space for error when it comes to getting hit. There are no empty spaces in the aircraft that can be hit and the plane is left out without too much trouble. Firstly, all but one of the four fuel tanks on the {{PAGENAME}} is not self-sealing, which is bad for the fuel storage on the plane. Secondly, one of the fuel tanks is ''huge'' and makes up a good portion of the wingspan (and it's a not self-sealing one at that). If this tank is hit, it will leak a good portion of the plane fuel. That is, if the tank does not catch fire from the hit, and it will burn continuously as it is representing a large fuel reserve and is not self-sealing. Having this or other fuel tanks get hit is a crippling blow to the {{PAGENAME}}.

These traits mean the {{PAGENAME}} deals with the aftermath of a hit terribly, but it does have enough design feature so that missiles are not an instant doom for the {{PAGENAME}}.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}


The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon, chin-mounted (1,000 rpg)

The 20 mm M61 Vulcan is an excellent multi-purpose weapon that can fit into the {{PAGENAME}}'s role. With the high rate of fire of 6,000 RPM, the M61 can lay down massive amount of fire that can ensure hits onto the target.

Due to the rate of fire, the {{PAGENAME}} only needs to fire into the enemy's path only for a moment that the enemy aircraft would be pelted with multiple 20 mm shells. If this does not instantly destroy the aircraft, more than likely a critical control component has been damaged that a follow-up shot is made easier against them.

The 20 mm shells are powerful for the ground-attack roles, with 53 mm of point-blank penetration with any belts loaded. A quick burst can destroy light pill-boxes in Air Realistic Battles, as well as penetrate some medium tanks via the weaker armour areas. Though the ground vehicles that the {{PAGENAME}} can encounter in Ground Realistic Battles are often more well armoured against the 20 mm power, modules can very easily be damaged with the Vulcan's rate of fire, let alone any shots towards the tank's roof armour.

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|LDGP Mk 81 (250 lb)|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)}}
{{main|AGM-65A|AIM-9E Sidewinder|AIM-9J Sidewinder}}
{{main|FFAR Mighty Mouse|GAU-13/A (30 mm)|M61 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total)
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons + 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 20 mm M61 cannons + 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 30 mm GAU-13/A cannons (353 rpg = 706 total)
* 2 x 30 mm GAU-13/A cannons + 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 30 mm GAU-13/A cannons + 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles
* 24 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs (6,000 lb total)
* 24 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs + 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 24 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs + 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 24 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (12,000 lb total)
* 24 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (12,000 lb total)
* 24 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles (12,000 lb total)
* 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (10,500 lb total)
* 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total)
* 14 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles (10,500 lb total)
* 12 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (12,000 lb total)
* 12 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (12,000 lb total)
* 12 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles (12,000 lb total)
* 6 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (12,000 lb total)
* 6 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (12,000 lb total)
* 6 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles (12,000 lb total)
* 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles
* 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles
* 4 x AGM-65A missiles
* 4 x AGM-65A missiles + 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles
* 4 x AGM-65A missiles + 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles
* 4 x AGM-65A missiles + 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 4 x AGM-65A missiles + 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 4 x AGM-65A missiles + 2 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles (1,500 lb total)
* 4 x AGM-65A missiles + 2 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles (1,500 lb total)

The A-7D can carry an assortment of bombs and unguided/guided rockets that are familiar to players of the American attacker line, with the primary differences to preceding attackers being that the A-7D have a staggering 6 hardpoints on its wing which can mount suspended weaponry, including the ability to carry dual 20 mm [[M61 (20 mm)|M61]] gunpods or dual 30 mm [[GAU-13/A (30 mm)|GAU-13/A]] gunpods, a scaled down yet still equally deadly variant of the GAU-8/A belonging to the infamous Fairchild Republic A-10 Thunderbolt 2, that can shred anything staring down its barrel. Finally the inclusion of [[Ballistic Computer|CCIP]] that assists in the usage of the aforementioned weaponry completes the A-7D as a deadly CAS package.
AGM-65A Maverick missiles are great for taking helicopters down in mixed ground battles.

== Usage in battles ==

* Air Battles

When trying to fly the A-7D in air realistic battles the main challenge can be getting to bases or ground targets as most of the fight revolves around the center of the map. To counter this, take some time to fly, and possibly climb away from the center of the map where radar equipped planes may be searching.
Once you've made it to the side, look at your surroundings and determine which group of targets/bombing base will net you the most rewards with as little risks of being shot down as possible. The moment you've expended your ordinance, you have two options - stay and fight other jet fighters, or go back to airfield to rearm and repair.

These two options have their risks and benefits.

By staying you open the chance of shooting down an enemy aircraft and grabbing yourself as large reward, but you also put yourself up as a easy target as the A-7D isn't designed to primarily fight air targets.

By going home you get the chance to repair any damage to your plane, and get more ordinance to go back and attack more ground targets. Your one disadvantage you may put yourself up to is that your teammates may be stuck along in the middle of battle fighting an unfair fight without your assistance.

* Ground battles

In ground realistic battles the A-7D is simultaneously a flying whale, and flying tank killer.

This aspect comes from that your attacker isn't very maneuverable, but the huge ordinance options allows your to take full advantage of the long flying periods that result from the large payloads, and the large amount of countermeasures.

You want to be aware of your surroundings and be aware of the VERY dangerous spaa that may be active mid battle. Listen to your rwr, and visually check if any bullets or missiles may be headed your way. If you receive a lock warning take evasive maneuvers and wait till the spaa is taken out, or that you get another chance to sneak up on the target to take them out.

AGM-65 / rockets

Your AGM's and rockets can be your best luck at speedy attacks that require less time on attack slope that leave you as a sitting duck compared to bomb dropping. With the missiles you can attain lock and quickly fire, then pull away to make sure you are in a safe position to reset and go in for another missile attack.

With the rockets you are able to saturate an area with a huge number of rockets quickly from just about any altitude. If you have the weapon selectin tool active, you can change the amount of rockets fired at once which can serve very useful when you have to take out a single target out with as little time in the combat area.

''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Posses a deadly 20 mm Vulcan gun, with ability to add two more 20 mm or 30 mm gun pods to the wings
** 30 mm gun pods have a distinction of producing one of the highest one-second burst mass in the game
** 20 mm Vulcan is also deadly enough to destroy a majority of ground targets in an air match
* Can hold a wide variety of suspended armaments for ground-attack, air-attack, or both
* CCIP for guns, rockets, and bombs mean the plane can use its payload with great accuracy and effectiveness
* Air-attack payload can consist of two AIM-9J, which are very competitive against the {{PAGENAME}}'s opponents
* Has attacker spawn, which gives the {{PAGENAME}} an advantage in speed and climbing in the match start
* Has radar warning receiver available at default to notify pilot of enemy radar pings or lock-ons
* Unlocked flares give a substantial 120 flares to use to deter infrared missiles
* Cockpit interior have a mini-map available and can be easily interpreted
* Fire and forget AGM's (Mavericks) with an effective range of 5 km+

'''Cons:'''

* Flaps have weak structural integrity, and requires rather low air speed even for landing flaps
* Air brakes cannot be extended when gear is deployed, hindering air brake flexibility when slowing down for a landing
* Plane is sluggish, can only travel subsonic speed and is not maneuverable to be as effective as an air combatant
** These traits make it difficult to lose a tailing enemy fighter
* Is a large target and is filled with critical modules
** Fuel tanks make up a good majority of plane interior

== History ==


The A-7D Corsair II was the US Air Force version of the Navy's A-7 Corsair II. It was procured by the USAF due to the urging of the US Army, which wanted a subsonic aircraft to carry out close air support (CAS) missions for its ground forces. <ref>https://www.mdairmuseum.org/a-7d-corsair-ii</ref>

The A-7D had a number of differences from the earlier Navy Corsairs, due to different requirements by the Air Force. The TF-30 engine was replaced by a version of the Rolls-Royce Spey, called the TF-41. The TF-41-A1 version was used in the A-7D, producing 14,250 pounds of thrust. The two 20 mm cannons of the earlier Corsair IIs were replaced by the M61A1 rotary cannon. The avionics suite of the A-7D was also different from that of the earlier models; the AN/ASN-91 Central Computer was the centerpiece of the navigation and weaponry delivery system, which also featured the AN/APQ-126 radar, AN/AVQ-7 heads-up display, projected map display system, doppler radar, inertial navigation system, and a weapons control system.

Some aspects of the A-7D made it unique from all Navy variants of the Corsair II. It had a boom and receptacle in-flight refueling system, improved wheels, tires, and brakes, an ESCAPAC IC ejection system, and a new oxygen system. The US Navy A-7E shared many characteristics with the A-7, but these changes listed never made it to USN Corsair IIs. <ref>https://www.vought.org/products/html/a-7d.html</ref>

A total of 459 A-7Ds were built, with deliveries starting to the 57th Fighter Weapons Wing in 1970. Starting in 1972, the Air Force's 354th Tactical Fighter Wing operated A-7Ds from Korat Royal Thai Air Force Base in Thailand during the late stages of the Vietnam War. Four USAF A-7Ds were lost in combat and two more were lost to other causes during that conflict, with a total of 12,928 combat sorties. Towards the end of the Vietnam War, A-7Ds from Korat Royal Thai AIr Force Base saw combat over Cambodia against the Khmer Rouge in support of the Lon Nol government. The last combat mission in Cambodia by an A-7D occurred on 15 August 1973.

Starting in 1973, A-7Ds began to be allocated to the Air National Guard (ANG). ANG A-7Ds flew 34 combat sorties during the 1989 Operation Just Cause in Panama. The A-7D was fully retired in the early 1990's, having been replaced by the A-10 Thunderbolt, which first entered service in 1977.

=== [[wt:en/news/6973-development-a-7d-corsair-ii-bulk-delivery-en|Devblog]] ===
In the early 1960s, the US Navy sought to procure a new naval strike aircraft in order to replace the A-4 Skyhawk. However, to ensure a fast development and reduce costs, the new machine was supposed to be based on aircraft already in service with the USN at the time. One of the aircraft manufacturers taking part in the competition - Ling-Temco-Vought (LTV) - quickly developed an aircraft on the basis of their F-8 Crusader by shrinking the dimensions of the new aircraft and taking away its supersonic abilities in an effort to further save on costs.

The decision to do this was met with success as LTV's design was quickly declared the winner of the competition and given the official designation A-7 and named 'Corsair II', signaling the lineage from the older WWII-era fighter bomber F4U Corsair (also built by Vought). The aircraft undertook its maiden flight in September 1965, with serial production starting in 1966. In the first production batch, close to 200 A-7A Corsair IIs were built with many seeing action in the ongoing Vietnam War.

Driven by the need to acquire a new strike aircraft themselves, and encouraged by the successes achieved by the A-7 in Vietnam, the USAF ordered the development of a separate Army variant in 1968, which would become the A-7D. Apart from vastly improved avionics, the A-7D also featured a more powerful engine and an M61 Vulcan cannon instead of two single-barreled 20 mm cannons.

The A-7D entered production in 1968 and continued rolling off the assembly line until 1975 with over 450 units being produced. It served until the early 1990s before being retired from active service.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=usa&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=assault&vehicle=a_7d Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

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;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|7J6c4D5MVRg|'''The Shooting Range #235''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:28 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6973-development-a-7d-corsair-ii-bulk-delivery-en|[Devblog] A-7D Corsair II: Bulk Delivery]]
* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/510140-a-7d-corsair-ii/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]

=== References ===
<references />

=== Bibliography ===

* A-7D Corsair II. (n.d.). Retrieved December 11, 2020, from https://www.mdairmuseum.org/a-7d-corsair-ii

* LTV A-7D Corsair II. (2015, July 21). Retrieved December 11, 2020, from https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/196072/ltv-a-7d-corsair-ii/
* Standard Aircraft Characteristics A-7D Corsair II. (n.d.). Retrieved December 11, 2020, from http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/A-7D_Corsair_II_SAC_-_December_1986.pdf
* Stites, R. (n.d.). A-7D. Retrieved December 11, 2020, from https://www.vought.org/products/html/a-7d.html

{{AirManufacturer Vought}}
{{USA jet aircraft}}

M1128

2021-01-24T21:59:13Z

U80920085: /* Pros and cons */

{{Specs-Card
|code=us_m1128_mgs
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "New Power"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}


'''Armour type:'''

* High Hardness Rolled Armor - Hull and turret
* MEXAS 2C - Applique armor on hull and lower turret

{| class="wikitable"
!Armour
!Front (Slope angle)
!Sides
!Rear
!Roof
|-
|Hull
|12.7 mm (70°) + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Upper Glacis'' 12.7 mm (1°-3°) + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Middle Plate'' 12.7 mm (54°) + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Lower Glacis''
|12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C
|12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Door'' 12.7 mm ''Hull Rear''
|12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C
|-
|Turret
|12.7 mm ''Upper Part'' 12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Lower Part''
|12.7 mm ''Upper Part'' 12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Lower Part''
|12.7 mm ''Upper Part'' 12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Lower Part''
|12.7 mm - 15 mm ''Upper Part'' 12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Lower Part''
|-
|Cupolas
|12.7 mm
|12.7 mm
|12.7 mm
|12.7 mm
|}
'''Notes:'''

* .50 cal machine gun shield has 12.7 mm of armor protection.
* Wheels provide 10 mm of protection.
* Vehicle is vulnerable to hull break.

==== Additional Armor ====
{| class="wikitable"
!Armour
!Location
|-
|Spaced Armor
|Between engine compartment and the crew compartment
Between hull front and driver
|-
|Slat Armor
|All four sides of the hull
|-
|Sideskirts
|Over the wheels
|}'''Notes:'''

* Sideskirts: 6.35 mm High Hardness Rolled Armor + 6.35 mm High Hardness Rolled Armor + 50 mm Composite Screen
* Spaced Armor: 5 mm Rolled Homogeneous Armor
* Slat Armor: 10 mm


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}
{{tankMobility|abMinHp=497|rbMinHp=310|AoAweight=}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|M68A1E8 (105 mm)}}
''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M68A1E8 (105 mm)|105 mm M68A1E8]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 18 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | 10.00 || rowspan="2" | 10.00 || rowspan="2" | 10.00 || rowspan="2" | 10.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| M456A2 || HEATFS ||400||400
|400
|400
|400
|400
|-
| C76A1 || APFSDS ||334||330||323||314||306||297
|-
| M900 || APFSDS ||522||519||513||504||495||486
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| M456A2 || HEATFS ||1173||10.50||0.05||0.1||1270|| 65° || 72° || 77°
|-
| C76A1 || APFSDS ||1509||3.60||N/A
|N/A
|N/A
| 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
| M900 || APFSDS ||1505||3.85||N/A||N/A
|N/A
| 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''18''' || 9 ''(+9)'' || 1 ''(+17)'' || No
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|M240 (7.62 mm)}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
|Pintle|| 400 (200) ||577|| -5° / +30° || -5° / +70°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M240 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M240]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
|Coaxial|| 3400 (200) ||941||N/A||N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* High resolution thermal gunner and commander optics, as well as low resolution driver thermal optics.
* Has access to the M900 high penetration APFSDS round when spaded.
* Autoloader allows a 7 second reload no matter the amount of crew members left or their health.
* Can put another shell in the autoloader in only 6 seconds; it is not affected by crew skill.
* High turret traverse speed (60°/sec with an ace crew) allows great reactionary ability.
* Unmanned turret can protect the crew from harm thanks to their location in the hull.
* Can fire smoke grenades three times, four grenades each time (total of 12 smoke grenades).
* .50 caliber machine gun can be used against low-flying aerial targets and lightly armored ground vehicles.
* Second highest top speed in the game, just after the the Type 93
* On road acceleration is good

'''Cons:'''

* 7 second reload is longer than for many vehicles with a 105 mm gun and human loader when they have full crew loading skill.
* Can only carry 18 rounds of ammunition, which may not always be enough.
* Thin armor can only protect against machine gun rounds; it is not able to protect against autocannons.
* It has a very large profile, making it an easy target.
* Suffers mildly from hullbreak mechanic
* Horsepower to ton ratio of ~15 hp/t results in low acceleration.
* Can not neutral steer and the off-road mobility is poor because of the wheeled design.
* The fencing around the vehicle is quite inconsistent with stopping HEAT/HEAT-FS shells.

== History ==


=== Development ===
The XM1128 MGS was designed by General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS) - Canada to meet the US Army’s Mobile Gun System (MGS) requirement, a requirement for an airmobile infantry support platform that could double in the anti-tank role. The first XM1128 prototype was completed in 1999, and after being chosen as the winner of the competition, eight pre-production units began delivery in 2002 after being redesignated as the M1128 Stryker MGS. The M1128 Stryker entered service with the US Army in 2007.

The M1128 Stryker uses the chassis of the GDLS-Canada Stryker - which is based on the LAV-III. The General Dynamics Low-Profile Turret (LPT) is used, which is a modified version of the turret from the Expeditionary Tank. It is designed to be light enough to easily be transported by air. In 2005, after issues with the autoloading mechanism, the autoloader was changed.

=== '''Design''' ===
The driver sits in the front left part of the hull, next to the engine on the right side. The driver can access his position through a hinged, one piece folding hatch or through the crew compartment. Three M17 day periscopes are located in the driver's hatch; the first one can be replaced by an image intensifier for night operations. A thermal viewer can be fitted in front of the driver as well.

The LPT is located towards the rear of the hull, with the commander sitting on the right and the gunner on the left, rounding off the crew of three. The LPT is significantly lighter than a conventional turret, whilst also presenting a smaller target to the enemy.

The main armament is a 105 mm M68A1E4 gun. It has 360° of traverse and elevation angles of -8° to +18°. The turret uses electrical controls, but manual controls are available for emergency situations. Both the gunner and commander can control the turret and fire the main gun. The main gun has a fire rate of 10 rounds per minute.

The main gun is fed by an automatic loading system, replacing a human loader. The automatic loading system contains eight rounds, and ten more rounds are carried in the hull for a total of 18 rounds of 105 mm ammunition. The autoloading mechanism can be refilled automatically with only six seconds per shell.

The M1128 is capable of firing M900 APFSDS anti-tank rounds, M456A2 HEAT anti-tank and anti-infantry rounds, M394A3 HEP (also known as HESH) rounds for bunker-busting, and M1040 canister rounds for anti-infantry duty.

The gunner has a single piece hatch with three M27 day periscopes. He also has access to a roof-mounted day/thermal sighting system with a laser rangefinder. The commander's one piece hatch has six M27 day periscopes and on production vehicles also has a panoramic viewer with day and thermal capability. As a backup to the main winner's sight, a x7 magnification day sight is provided for both the gunner and commander.

A 7.62 mm machine gun is located coaxially to the left of the main gun. Additionally, a 12.7 mm machine gun is available for use by the commander. On pre-production units the .50 cal machine gun was pintle-mounted, but it was mounted on a skate rail on production vehicles. Smoke grenade launchers are mounted on each side of the turret, with the amount and location depending on the model (prototype, pre-production, or production). The production version has two banks of four smoke grenades on the left (gunner's) side and one bank of four on the right (commander's) side, for a total of 12 smoke grenades.

The main gun and coaxial machine gun are fully stabilized, as are the gunner and commander's sights. The General Dynamics fire-control computer is used as the fire-control system (FCS).

The M1128 utilizes welded steel armor, with a layer of ceramic applique armor bolted to the exterior as standard. A small liner is fitted to specific areas of the interior to minimize the damage of a penetration.

An armor package consisting of slat, also known as bar, armor can be fitted. This prematurely detonated rocket propelled grenades, preventing penetration. To further enhance protection, composite screens can be added to protect the wheels.

The powerpack is located in the front of the hull, to the right of the driver. It consists of a Caterpillar 3126A diesel engine - producing 350 horsepower - and an Allison MD 3560 P automatic transmission. The transmission has six forward gears and one reverse gear. The maximum attainable speed is 100 kph, and it has a range of 530 km.

The M1128 has eight wheels and uses power-assisted steering, with the front two axles being engaged in steering. A central tire pressure regulation system is fitted to allow the adjustment of tire pressure as needed.

The M1128 Stryker MGS is fitted with a heating and air conditioning system, vehicle and external communications system, an automatic fire detection and suppression system, and a GPS. A nuclear, biological, chemical (NBC) protection system is fitted for the crew compartment.

An auxiliary power unit (APU) can be fitted, as can a hydraulic winch for self-recovery or for moving of other vehicles or obstacles.

=== '''Production and Service''' ===
The XM1128 prototype was first built in 1999, and eight pre-production vehicles were built by 2002. The Army originally planned to purchase 204 M1128 Strykers, but only ended up buying 142 in total, due to issues with the turret and autoloader.

In 2013, there were 27 M1128 Strykers assigned to each Stryker Brigade, but the number was then reduced to ten. The M1128 Stryker MGS is - and was always intended to be - used to support the infantry. Despite having anti-tank capability, anti-tank operations are a secondary role for the Stryker MGS, with infantry support being the primary role.

The platform is still in service with the US Army as of 2020. A platoon of three Stryker MGS is attached to each Stryker infantry company, one MGS supporting each Stryker infantry platoon.

Three M1128 Strykers have been lost to combat in the Middle East.

=== [[wt:en/news/6934-development-m1128-stryker-mgs-en|Devblog]] ===
Following the end of the Cold War, leading U.S. Army theorists believed that the armored branch of the armed forces was no longer suitably equipped to perform future operations, projected to be “low-intensity” operations. As a result, the need for a new vehicle, which would bridge the gap between heavily and lightly armored units, became increasingly apparent.

To address this, the Army issued a set of requirements for the new vehicle and invited close to a dozen manufacturers to design demonstrator vehicles to be tested in late 1999. Among them, General Dynamics Land Systems’ LAV III-105 was eventually proclaimed the winner of the competition in November 2000. Shortly after, the LAV III-105 received the name ‘Stryker’ and plans were made to manufacture over 2,100 units.

In 2002, the XM-M1128 MGS was built, however technical difficulties and deficiencies in the design caused delays to the start of its production. By 2005, low rate production of the vehicle was approved, while new shortcomings in the design were found. Eventually, the vehicle received a significant redesign of certain elements in 2008, being later approved for full production in 2014.

During its early production phase, several Stryker MGS vehicles were sent overseas for combat trials in the Middle East of which 3 would be lost. At present, over 140 M1128 Stryker MGS’ have been built and actively serve with the U.S. Army.

== Media ==
<gallery mode="packed" caption="M1128 Stryker MGS Devblog Images" heights="150">
File:M1128 Stryker MGS WTWallpaper 001.jpg|
File:M1128 Stryker MGS WTWallpaper 002.jpg|
File:M1128 Stryker MGS WTWallpaper 003.jpg|
File:M1128 Stryker MGS WTWallpaper 004.jpg|
File:M1128 Stryker MGS WTWallpaper 005.jpg|
File:M1128 Stryker MGS WTWallpaper 006.jpg|
File:M1128 Stryker MGS WTWallpaper 007.jpg|
</gallery>

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6934-development-m1128-stryker-mgs-en|[Devblog] M1128 Stryker MGS]]

{{TankManufacturer General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS)}}
{{USA tank destroyers}}

M1128

2021-01-24T21:58:46Z

U80920085: /* Pros and cons */

{{Specs-Card
|code=us_m1128_mgs
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "New Power"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}


'''Armour type:'''

* High Hardness Rolled Armor - Hull and turret
* MEXAS 2C - Applique armor on hull and lower turret

{| class="wikitable"
!Armour
!Front (Slope angle)
!Sides
!Rear
!Roof
|-
|Hull
|12.7 mm (70°) + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Upper Glacis'' 12.7 mm (1°-3°) + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Middle Plate'' 12.7 mm (54°) + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Lower Glacis''
|12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C
|12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Door'' 12.7 mm ''Hull Rear''
|12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C
|-
|Turret
|12.7 mm ''Upper Part'' 12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Lower Part''
|12.7 mm ''Upper Part'' 12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Lower Part''
|12.7 mm ''Upper Part'' 12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Lower Part''
|12.7 mm - 15 mm ''Upper Part'' 12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Lower Part''
|-
|Cupolas
|12.7 mm
|12.7 mm
|12.7 mm
|12.7 mm
|}
'''Notes:'''

* .50 cal machine gun shield has 12.7 mm of armor protection.
* Wheels provide 10 mm of protection.
* Vehicle is vulnerable to hull break.

==== Additional Armor ====
{| class="wikitable"
!Armour
!Location
|-
|Spaced Armor
|Between engine compartment and the crew compartment
Between hull front and driver
|-
|Slat Armor
|All four sides of the hull
|-
|Sideskirts
|Over the wheels
|}'''Notes:'''

* Sideskirts: 6.35 mm High Hardness Rolled Armor + 6.35 mm High Hardness Rolled Armor + 50 mm Composite Screen
* Spaced Armor: 5 mm Rolled Homogeneous Armor
* Slat Armor: 10 mm


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}
{{tankMobility|abMinHp=497|rbMinHp=310|AoAweight=}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|M68A1E8 (105 mm)}}
''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M68A1E8 (105 mm)|105 mm M68A1E8]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 18 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | 10.00 || rowspan="2" | 10.00 || rowspan="2" | 10.00 || rowspan="2" | 10.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| M456A2 || HEATFS ||400||400
|400
|400
|400
|400
|-
| C76A1 || APFSDS ||334||330||323||314||306||297
|-
| M900 || APFSDS ||522||519||513||504||495||486
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| M456A2 || HEATFS ||1173||10.50||0.05||0.1||1270|| 65° || 72° || 77°
|-
| C76A1 || APFSDS ||1509||3.60||N/A
|N/A
|N/A
| 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
| M900 || APFSDS ||1505||3.85||N/A||N/A
|N/A
| 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''18''' || 9 ''(+9)'' || 1 ''(+17)'' || No
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|M240 (7.62 mm)}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
|Pintle|| 400 (200) ||577|| -5° / +30° || -5° / +70°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M240 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M240]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
|Coaxial|| 3400 (200) ||941||N/A||N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* High resolution thermal gunner and commander optics, as well as low resolution driver thermal optics.
* Has access to the M900 high penetration APFSDS round when spaded.
* Autoloader allows a 10 second reload no matter the amount of crew members left or their health.
* Can put another shell in the autoloader in only 6 seconds; it is not affected by crew skill.
* High turret traverse speed (60°/sec with an ace crew) allows great reactionary ability.
* Unmanned turret can protect the crew from harm thanks to their location in the hull.
* Can fire smoke grenades three times, four grenades each time (total of 12 smoke grenades).
* .50 caliber machine gun can be used against low-flying aerial targets and lightly armored ground vehicles.
* Second highest top speed in the game, just after the the Type 93
* On road acceleration is good

'''Cons:'''

* 7 second reload is longer than for many vehicles with a 105 mm gun and human loader when they have full crew loading skill.
* Can only carry 18 rounds of ammunition, which may not always be enough.
* Thin armor can only protect against machine gun rounds; it is not able to protect against autocannons.
* It has a very large profile, making it an easy target.
* Suffers mildly from hullbreak mechanic
* Horsepower to ton ratio of ~15 hp/t results in low acceleration.
* Can not neutral steer and the off-road mobility is poor because of the wheeled design.
* The fencing around the vehicle is quite inconsistent with stopping HEAT/HEAT-FS shells.

== History ==


=== Development ===
The XM1128 MGS was designed by General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS) - Canada to meet the US Army’s Mobile Gun System (MGS) requirement, a requirement for an airmobile infantry support platform that could double in the anti-tank role. The first XM1128 prototype was completed in 1999, and after being chosen as the winner of the competition, eight pre-production units began delivery in 2002 after being redesignated as the M1128 Stryker MGS. The M1128 Stryker entered service with the US Army in 2007.

The M1128 Stryker uses the chassis of the GDLS-Canada Stryker - which is based on the LAV-III. The General Dynamics Low-Profile Turret (LPT) is used, which is a modified version of the turret from the Expeditionary Tank. It is designed to be light enough to easily be transported by air. In 2005, after issues with the autoloading mechanism, the autoloader was changed.

=== '''Design''' ===
The driver sits in the front left part of the hull, next to the engine on the right side. The driver can access his position through a hinged, one piece folding hatch or through the crew compartment. Three M17 day periscopes are located in the driver's hatch; the first one can be replaced by an image intensifier for night operations. A thermal viewer can be fitted in front of the driver as well.

The LPT is located towards the rear of the hull, with the commander sitting on the right and the gunner on the left, rounding off the crew of three. The LPT is significantly lighter than a conventional turret, whilst also presenting a smaller target to the enemy.

The main armament is a 105 mm M68A1E4 gun. It has 360° of traverse and elevation angles of -8° to +18°. The turret uses electrical controls, but manual controls are available for emergency situations. Both the gunner and commander can control the turret and fire the main gun. The main gun has a fire rate of 10 rounds per minute.

The main gun is fed by an automatic loading system, replacing a human loader. The automatic loading system contains eight rounds, and ten more rounds are carried in the hull for a total of 18 rounds of 105 mm ammunition. The autoloading mechanism can be refilled automatically with only six seconds per shell.

The M1128 is capable of firing M900 APFSDS anti-tank rounds, M456A2 HEAT anti-tank and anti-infantry rounds, M394A3 HEP (also known as HESH) rounds for bunker-busting, and M1040 canister rounds for anti-infantry duty.

The gunner has a single piece hatch with three M27 day periscopes. He also has access to a roof-mounted day/thermal sighting system with a laser rangefinder. The commander's one piece hatch has six M27 day periscopes and on production vehicles also has a panoramic viewer with day and thermal capability. As a backup to the main winner's sight, a x7 magnification day sight is provided for both the gunner and commander.

A 7.62 mm machine gun is located coaxially to the left of the main gun. Additionally, a 12.7 mm machine gun is available for use by the commander. On pre-production units the .50 cal machine gun was pintle-mounted, but it was mounted on a skate rail on production vehicles. Smoke grenade launchers are mounted on each side of the turret, with the amount and location depending on the model (prototype, pre-production, or production). The production version has two banks of four smoke grenades on the left (gunner's) side and one bank of four on the right (commander's) side, for a total of 12 smoke grenades.

The main gun and coaxial machine gun are fully stabilized, as are the gunner and commander's sights. The General Dynamics fire-control computer is used as the fire-control system (FCS).

The M1128 utilizes welded steel armor, with a layer of ceramic applique armor bolted to the exterior as standard. A small liner is fitted to specific areas of the interior to minimize the damage of a penetration.

An armor package consisting of slat, also known as bar, armor can be fitted. This prematurely detonated rocket propelled grenades, preventing penetration. To further enhance protection, composite screens can be added to protect the wheels.

The powerpack is located in the front of the hull, to the right of the driver. It consists of a Caterpillar 3126A diesel engine - producing 350 horsepower - and an Allison MD 3560 P automatic transmission. The transmission has six forward gears and one reverse gear. The maximum attainable speed is 100 kph, and it has a range of 530 km.

The M1128 has eight wheels and uses power-assisted steering, with the front two axles being engaged in steering. A central tire pressure regulation system is fitted to allow the adjustment of tire pressure as needed.

The M1128 Stryker MGS is fitted with a heating and air conditioning system, vehicle and external communications system, an automatic fire detection and suppression system, and a GPS. A nuclear, biological, chemical (NBC) protection system is fitted for the crew compartment.

An auxiliary power unit (APU) can be fitted, as can a hydraulic winch for self-recovery or for moving of other vehicles or obstacles.

=== '''Production and Service''' ===
The XM1128 prototype was first built in 1999, and eight pre-production vehicles were built by 2002. The Army originally planned to purchase 204 M1128 Strykers, but only ended up buying 142 in total, due to issues with the turret and autoloader.

In 2013, there were 27 M1128 Strykers assigned to each Stryker Brigade, but the number was then reduced to ten. The M1128 Stryker MGS is - and was always intended to be - used to support the infantry. Despite having anti-tank capability, anti-tank operations are a secondary role for the Stryker MGS, with infantry support being the primary role.

The platform is still in service with the US Army as of 2020. A platoon of three Stryker MGS is attached to each Stryker infantry company, one MGS supporting each Stryker infantry platoon.

Three M1128 Strykers have been lost to combat in the Middle East.

=== [[wt:en/news/6934-development-m1128-stryker-mgs-en|Devblog]] ===
Following the end of the Cold War, leading U.S. Army theorists believed that the armored branch of the armed forces was no longer suitably equipped to perform future operations, projected to be “low-intensity” operations. As a result, the need for a new vehicle, which would bridge the gap between heavily and lightly armored units, became increasingly apparent.

To address this, the Army issued a set of requirements for the new vehicle and invited close to a dozen manufacturers to design demonstrator vehicles to be tested in late 1999. Among them, General Dynamics Land Systems’ LAV III-105 was eventually proclaimed the winner of the competition in November 2000. Shortly after, the LAV III-105 received the name ‘Stryker’ and plans were made to manufacture over 2,100 units.

In 2002, the XM-M1128 MGS was built, however technical difficulties and deficiencies in the design caused delays to the start of its production. By 2005, low rate production of the vehicle was approved, while new shortcomings in the design were found. Eventually, the vehicle received a significant redesign of certain elements in 2008, being later approved for full production in 2014.

During its early production phase, several Stryker MGS vehicles were sent overseas for combat trials in the Middle East of which 3 would be lost. At present, over 140 M1128 Stryker MGS’ have been built and actively serve with the U.S. Army.

== Media ==
<gallery mode="packed" caption="M1128 Stryker MGS Devblog Images" heights="150">
File:M1128 Stryker MGS WTWallpaper 001.jpg|
File:M1128 Stryker MGS WTWallpaper 002.jpg|
File:M1128 Stryker MGS WTWallpaper 003.jpg|
File:M1128 Stryker MGS WTWallpaper 004.jpg|
File:M1128 Stryker MGS WTWallpaper 005.jpg|
File:M1128 Stryker MGS WTWallpaper 006.jpg|
File:M1128 Stryker MGS WTWallpaper 007.jpg|
</gallery>

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6934-development-m1128-stryker-mgs-en|[Devblog] M1128 Stryker MGS]]

{{TankManufacturer General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS)}}
{{USA tank destroyers}}

M1128

2021-01-24T21:57:56Z

U80920085: /* Pros and cons */

{{Specs-Card
|code=us_m1128_mgs
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "New Power"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}


'''Armour type:'''

* High Hardness Rolled Armor - Hull and turret
* MEXAS 2C - Applique armor on hull and lower turret

{| class="wikitable"
!Armour
!Front (Slope angle)
!Sides
!Rear
!Roof
|-
|Hull
|12.7 mm (70°) + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Upper Glacis'' 12.7 mm (1°-3°) + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Middle Plate'' 12.7 mm (54°) + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Lower Glacis''
|12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C
|12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Door'' 12.7 mm ''Hull Rear''
|12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C
|-
|Turret
|12.7 mm ''Upper Part'' 12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Lower Part''
|12.7 mm ''Upper Part'' 12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Lower Part''
|12.7 mm ''Upper Part'' 12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Lower Part''
|12.7 mm - 15 mm ''Upper Part'' 12.7 mm + 25.4 mm MEXAS 2C ''Lower Part''
|-
|Cupolas
|12.7 mm
|12.7 mm
|12.7 mm
|12.7 mm
|}
'''Notes:'''

* .50 cal machine gun shield has 12.7 mm of armor protection.
* Wheels provide 10 mm of protection.
* Vehicle is vulnerable to hull break.

==== Additional Armor ====
{| class="wikitable"
!Armour
!Location
|-
|Spaced Armor
|Between engine compartment and the crew compartment
Between hull front and driver
|-
|Slat Armor
|All four sides of the hull
|-
|Sideskirts
|Over the wheels
|}'''Notes:'''

* Sideskirts: 6.35 mm High Hardness Rolled Armor + 6.35 mm High Hardness Rolled Armor + 50 mm Composite Screen
* Spaced Armor: 5 mm Rolled Homogeneous Armor
* Slat Armor: 10 mm


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}
{{tankMobility|abMinHp=497|rbMinHp=310|AoAweight=}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|M68A1E8 (105 mm)}}
''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M68A1E8 (105 mm)|105 mm M68A1E8]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 18 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | 10.00 || rowspan="2" | 10.00 || rowspan="2" | 10.00 || rowspan="2" | 10.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| M456A2 || HEATFS ||400||400
|400
|400
|400
|400
|-
| C76A1 || APFSDS ||334||330||323||314||306||297
|-
| M900 || APFSDS ||522||519||513||504||495||486
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| M456A2 || HEATFS ||1173||10.50||0.05||0.1||1270|| 65° || 72° || 77°
|-
| C76A1 || APFSDS ||1509||3.60||N/A
|N/A
|N/A
| 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
| M900 || APFSDS ||1505||3.85||N/A||N/A
|N/A
| 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''18''' || 9 ''(+9)'' || 1 ''(+17)'' || No
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|M240 (7.62 mm)}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
|Pintle|| 400 (200) ||577|| -5° / +30° || -5° / +70°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M240 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M240]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
|Coaxial|| 3400 (200) ||941||N/A||N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* High resolution thermal gunner and commander optics, as well as low resolution driver thermal optics.
* Has access to the M900 high penetration APFSDS round when spaded.
* Autoloader allows a 10 second reload no matter the amount of crew members left or their health.
* Can put another shell in the autoloader in only 6 seconds; it is not affected by crew skill.
* High turret traverse speed (60°/sec with an ace crew) allows great reactionary ability.
* Unmanned turret can protect the crew from harm thanks to their location in the hull.
* Can fire smoke grenades three times, four grenades each time (total of 12 smoke grenades).
* .50 caliber machine gun can be used against low-flying aerial targets and lightly armored ground vehicles.
* Second highest top speed in the game, just after the the Type 93
* On road acceleration is good

'''Cons:'''

* 7 second reload is longer than for many vehicles with a 105 mm gun and human loader when they have full crew loading skill.
* Can only carry 18 rounds of ammunition, which may not always be enough.
* Thin armor can only protect against machine gun rounds; it is not able to protect against autocannons.
* It has a very large profile, making it an easy target.
* Suffers heavily from the Hull Break mechanic
* Horsepower to ton ratio of ~15 hp/t results in low acceleration.
* Can not neutral steer and the off-road mobility is poor because of the wheeled design.
* The fencing around the vehicle is quite inconsistent with stopping HEAT/HEAT-FS shells.

== History ==


=== Development ===
The XM1128 MGS was designed by General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS) - Canada to meet the US Army’s Mobile Gun System (MGS) requirement, a requirement for an airmobile infantry support platform that could double in the anti-tank role. The first XM1128 prototype was completed in 1999, and after being chosen as the winner of the competition, eight pre-production units began delivery in 2002 after being redesignated as the M1128 Stryker MGS. The M1128 Stryker entered service with the US Army in 2007.

The M1128 Stryker uses the chassis of the GDLS-Canada Stryker - which is based on the LAV-III. The General Dynamics Low-Profile Turret (LPT) is used, which is a modified version of the turret from the Expeditionary Tank. It is designed to be light enough to easily be transported by air. In 2005, after issues with the autoloading mechanism, the autoloader was changed.

=== '''Design''' ===
The driver sits in the front left part of the hull, next to the engine on the right side. The driver can access his position through a hinged, one piece folding hatch or through the crew compartment. Three M17 day periscopes are located in the driver's hatch; the first one can be replaced by an image intensifier for night operations. A thermal viewer can be fitted in front of the driver as well.

The LPT is located towards the rear of the hull, with the commander sitting on the right and the gunner on the left, rounding off the crew of three. The LPT is significantly lighter than a conventional turret, whilst also presenting a smaller target to the enemy.

The main armament is a 105 mm M68A1E4 gun. It has 360° of traverse and elevation angles of -8° to +18°. The turret uses electrical controls, but manual controls are available for emergency situations. Both the gunner and commander can control the turret and fire the main gun. The main gun has a fire rate of 10 rounds per minute.

The main gun is fed by an automatic loading system, replacing a human loader. The automatic loading system contains eight rounds, and ten more rounds are carried in the hull for a total of 18 rounds of 105 mm ammunition. The autoloading mechanism can be refilled automatically with only six seconds per shell.

The M1128 is capable of firing M900 APFSDS anti-tank rounds, M456A2 HEAT anti-tank and anti-infantry rounds, M394A3 HEP (also known as HESH) rounds for bunker-busting, and M1040 canister rounds for anti-infantry duty.

The gunner has a single piece hatch with three M27 day periscopes. He also has access to a roof-mounted day/thermal sighting system with a laser rangefinder. The commander's one piece hatch has six M27 day periscopes and on production vehicles also has a panoramic viewer with day and thermal capability. As a backup to the main winner's sight, a x7 magnification day sight is provided for both the gunner and commander.

A 7.62 mm machine gun is located coaxially to the left of the main gun. Additionally, a 12.7 mm machine gun is available for use by the commander. On pre-production units the .50 cal machine gun was pintle-mounted, but it was mounted on a skate rail on production vehicles. Smoke grenade launchers are mounted on each side of the turret, with the amount and location depending on the model (prototype, pre-production, or production). The production version has two banks of four smoke grenades on the left (gunner's) side and one bank of four on the right (commander's) side, for a total of 12 smoke grenades.

The main gun and coaxial machine gun are fully stabilized, as are the gunner and commander's sights. The General Dynamics fire-control computer is used as the fire-control system (FCS).

The M1128 utilizes welded steel armor, with a layer of ceramic applique armor bolted to the exterior as standard. A small liner is fitted to specific areas of the interior to minimize the damage of a penetration.

An armor package consisting of slat, also known as bar, armor can be fitted. This prematurely detonated rocket propelled grenades, preventing penetration. To further enhance protection, composite screens can be added to protect the wheels.

The powerpack is located in the front of the hull, to the right of the driver. It consists of a Caterpillar 3126A diesel engine - producing 350 horsepower - and an Allison MD 3560 P automatic transmission. The transmission has six forward gears and one reverse gear. The maximum attainable speed is 100 kph, and it has a range of 530 km.

The M1128 has eight wheels and uses power-assisted steering, with the front two axles being engaged in steering. A central tire pressure regulation system is fitted to allow the adjustment of tire pressure as needed.

The M1128 Stryker MGS is fitted with a heating and air conditioning system, vehicle and external communications system, an automatic fire detection and suppression system, and a GPS. A nuclear, biological, chemical (NBC) protection system is fitted for the crew compartment.

An auxiliary power unit (APU) can be fitted, as can a hydraulic winch for self-recovery or for moving of other vehicles or obstacles.

=== '''Production and Service''' ===
The XM1128 prototype was first built in 1999, and eight pre-production vehicles were built by 2002. The Army originally planned to purchase 204 M1128 Strykers, but only ended up buying 142 in total, due to issues with the turret and autoloader.

In 2013, there were 27 M1128 Strykers assigned to each Stryker Brigade, but the number was then reduced to ten. The M1128 Stryker MGS is - and was always intended to be - used to support the infantry. Despite having anti-tank capability, anti-tank operations are a secondary role for the Stryker MGS, with infantry support being the primary role.

The platform is still in service with the US Army as of 2020. A platoon of three Stryker MGS is attached to each Stryker infantry company, one MGS supporting each Stryker infantry platoon.

Three M1128 Strykers have been lost to combat in the Middle East.

=== [[wt:en/news/6934-development-m1128-stryker-mgs-en|Devblog]] ===
Following the end of the Cold War, leading U.S. Army theorists believed that the armored branch of the armed forces was no longer suitably equipped to perform future operations, projected to be “low-intensity” operations. As a result, the need for a new vehicle, which would bridge the gap between heavily and lightly armored units, became increasingly apparent.

To address this, the Army issued a set of requirements for the new vehicle and invited close to a dozen manufacturers to design demonstrator vehicles to be tested in late 1999. Among them, General Dynamics Land Systems’ LAV III-105 was eventually proclaimed the winner of the competition in November 2000. Shortly after, the LAV III-105 received the name ‘Stryker’ and plans were made to manufacture over 2,100 units.

In 2002, the XM-M1128 MGS was built, however technical difficulties and deficiencies in the design caused delays to the start of its production. By 2005, low rate production of the vehicle was approved, while new shortcomings in the design were found. Eventually, the vehicle received a significant redesign of certain elements in 2008, being later approved for full production in 2014.

During its early production phase, several Stryker MGS vehicles were sent overseas for combat trials in the Middle East of which 3 would be lost. At present, over 140 M1128 Stryker MGS’ have been built and actively serve with the U.S. Army.

== Media ==
<gallery mode="packed" caption="M1128 Stryker MGS Devblog Images" heights="150">
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</gallery>

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6934-development-m1128-stryker-mgs-en|[Devblog] M1128 Stryker MGS]]

{{TankManufacturer General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS)}}
{{USA tank destroyers}}

F3H-2

2020-09-16T23:39:47Z

U80920085: /* Pros and cons */

{{Specs-Card
|code=f3h-2
|cockpit=cockpit_f3h-2.jpg
}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{Break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===

The F3H is quite possibly the most fun and enjoyable jet to play with american naval jets, that is once fully spaded (fully upgraded modifications), On first glance the jet may look big and slow and it may be in some situations, but the turning abilities and acceleration are a completely new breathe of fresh air for american naval jets.

You are no longer confined to the slow acceleration, slower turns of the F9F series, but are almost if not completely capable of going tip of the spear with full afterburner and charging the enemy, that is with a smart head on charge with your subsonic jet. As to note the leading edge slats can be controlled manually by engaged combat flaps (pressing F by default for flaps) which take your already amazing elevator control to a next level even at lower speed!

When flying this jet you can really stretch your legs with different tactics: you have great ordinance for Ground battles, you have great air to air performance. The mix of the two major combat scenarios make this jet a truly universal naval jet with just about any play style for anyone available in someway.

Important things to remember:

* while you may be able to turn fight a mig for a short period of time its important to employ vertical and hi yo-yo maneuvers as in low speed your aircraft will feel very brick like. This can be semi negated by using the combat flaps to extend your leading edge slats.

* your aircraft is very hungry when using afterburner which drastically increases flight acceleration and overall performance so it is recommended to bring around 20-30 minutes of fuel
* On take off there is a tail strike guard, but the elevator may tap the ground if your not using a full "stick back" takeoff

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
|1149||1141|| rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} ||29.6||30.6||58.0||53.5|| rowspan="2" | 750
|-
! Upgraded
|1177||1163||26.6||28.0||87.5||72.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} ||833||833|| 370 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 810 || < 750 || < 700 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="6" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Basic Mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | Allison J71-A-2 || 1
| colspan="3" | 9,965 kg || colspan="3" | 299 kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="5" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 16m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 45m fuel || 53m fuel
|-
| 2,180 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
| 11,305 kg || 11,640 kg || 12,478 kg || 13,735 kg || 14,405 kg || 18,000 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="6" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 16m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 45m fuel || 53m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 4,590 kgf || 6,334 kgf
| 0.56 || 0.54 || 0.51 || 0.46 || 0.44 || 0.35
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 4,774 kgf (1,200 km/h) || 8,037 kgf (1,200 km/h)
| 0.71 || 0.69 || 0.64 || 0.59 || 0.56 || 0.45
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===


* there is no amour on the vehicle

* you are a large aircraft compared to sabres and migs

* the engine is quite large resulting in grazing bullets probably hitting your engine
* your wings are more than capable of taking high G forces so there is no need to worry about high speed turns
* fuel tanks are located throughout the belly and shoulders of the wings so there is the chance of fires being started

== Armaments ==
=== Offensive armament ===

{{main|Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 3 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 4 x 20 mm Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 3 cannons, -mounted (190 rpg = 760 total)

=== Suspended armament ===

{{main|LDGP Mk 81 (250 lb)|AN-M57 (250 lb)|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)}}
{{main|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)|M118 (3,000 lb)|AIM-9B Sidewinder|FFAR Mighty Mouse}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 6 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (1,500 lb total)
* 6 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (3,000 lb total)
* 6 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs (1,500 lb total)
* 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 6 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (3,500 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 1 x 3,000 lb M118 bomb (3,000 lb total)
* 56 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (2,000 lb total)
* 1 x 3,000 lb M118 bomb + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)
* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets

== Usage in battles ==

In Air Realistic battles, it is recommended to start a match with a fuel load of 20 minutes, gaining speed of around 950 km/h, and putting the plane at a 15 to 20 degree climb. The amount of climb is entirely dependent on the pilots play style, as more aggressive players will enjoy a lower altitude. Since the F3H has a high maneuverability, it is recommended to go after lower-ranked vehicles, like the F-86A, MiG-15, and the Hunter F.1. If the F3H gets into a uncomfortable situation against these planes, it can simply dive away to avoid getting caught. Getting used to the four 20 mm cannons will also assist, as their damage is high, allowing for swift attacks in intercepting maneuvers. The most dangerous enemies of the F3H are the G.91 YS, and Lightning F.6 pilots, as they pick it off quite easily.

=== Modules ===
{| class="wikitable"
! Tier
! Flight performance
! Survivability
! colspan="4" | Weaponry
|-
| I
|Compressor
|Fuselage repair
|Offensive 20 mm
|
|Mk81
|AN-M57A1 BOX
|-
| II
|New boosters
|Airframe
|
|AERO 6A
|Mk82
|AN-M64A1 BOX
|-
| III
|Wings repair
|G-suit
|New 20 mm cannons
|AERO 7D
|Mk83
|Mk84
|-
| IV
|Engine
|Cover
|
|AIM-9B
|
|Mk118
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* One of the faster planes compared to its peers
* Can carry 4 AIM-9B missiles (useful for low speed chases or stall outs)
* Wide variety of payload options
* Very good maneuverability
* good cockpit visibility with well placed in cockpit radar position

'''Cons:'''

* Loses much of its speed when maneuvering
* Missiles may be a disappointment if not used correctly

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

{{Youtube-gallery|kmLZDtH7FpU|'''The Shooting Range #208''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:52 discusses the F3H-2 Demon.}}

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6708-development-f3h-2-demon-linking-eras-en|[Devblog] F3H-2 Demon: Linking Eras]]

{{AirManufacturer McDonnell}}
{{USA jet aircraft}}

F3H-2

2020-09-16T23:37:17Z

U80920085: /* Flight performance */

{{Specs-Card
|code=f3h-2
|cockpit=cockpit_f3h-2.jpg
}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{Break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===

The F3H is quite possibly the most fun and enjoyable jet to play with american naval jets, that is once fully spaded (fully upgraded modifications), On first glance the jet may look big and slow and it may be in some situations, but the turning abilities and acceleration are a completely new breathe of fresh air for american naval jets.

You are no longer confined to the slow acceleration, slower turns of the F9F series, but are almost if not completely capable of going tip of the spear with full afterburner and charging the enemy, that is with a smart head on charge with your subsonic jet. As to note the leading edge slats can be controlled manually by engaged combat flaps (pressing F by default for flaps) which take your already amazing elevator control to a next level even at lower speed!

When flying this jet you can really stretch your legs with different tactics: you have great ordinance for Ground battles, you have great air to air performance. The mix of the two major combat scenarios make this jet a truly universal naval jet with just about any play style for anyone available in someway.

Important things to remember:

* while you may be able to turn fight a mig for a short period of time its important to employ vertical and hi yo-yo maneuvers as in low speed your aircraft will feel very brick like. This can be semi negated by using the combat flaps to extend your leading edge slats.

* your aircraft is very hungry when using afterburner which drastically increases flight acceleration and overall performance so it is recommended to bring around 20-30 minutes of fuel
* On take off there is a tail strike guard, but the elevator may tap the ground if your not using a full "stick back" takeoff

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
|1149||1141|| rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} ||29.6||30.6||58.0||53.5|| rowspan="2" | 750
|-
! Upgraded
|1177||1163||26.6||28.0||87.5||72.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} ||833||833|| 370 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 810 || < 750 || < 700 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="6" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Basic Mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | Allison J71-A-2 || 1
| colspan="3" | 9,965 kg || colspan="3" | 299 kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="5" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 16m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 45m fuel || 53m fuel
|-
| 2,180 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
| 11,305 kg || 11,640 kg || 12,478 kg || 13,735 kg || 14,405 kg || 18,000 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="6" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 16m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 45m fuel || 53m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 4,590 kgf || 6,334 kgf
| 0.56 || 0.54 || 0.51 || 0.46 || 0.44 || 0.35
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 4,774 kgf (1,200 km/h) || 8,037 kgf (1,200 km/h)
| 0.71 || 0.69 || 0.64 || 0.59 || 0.56 || 0.45
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===


* there is no amour on the vehicle

* you are a large aircraft compared to sabres and migs

* the engine is quite large resulting in grazing bullets probably hitting your engine
* your wings are more than capable of taking high G forces so there is no need to worry about high speed turns
* fuel tanks are located throughout the belly and shoulders of the wings so there is the chance of fires being started

== Armaments ==
=== Offensive armament ===

{{main|Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 3 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 4 x 20 mm Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 3 cannons, -mounted (190 rpg = 760 total)

=== Suspended armament ===

{{main|LDGP Mk 81 (250 lb)|AN-M57 (250 lb)|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)}}
{{main|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)|M118 (3,000 lb)|AIM-9B Sidewinder|FFAR Mighty Mouse}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 6 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (1,500 lb total)
* 6 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (3,000 lb total)
* 6 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs (1,500 lb total)
* 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 6 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (3,500 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 1 x 3,000 lb M118 bomb (3,000 lb total)
* 56 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (2,000 lb total)
* 1 x 3,000 lb M118 bomb + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)
* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets

== Usage in battles ==

In Air Realistic battles, it is recommended to start a match with a fuel load of 20 minutes, gaining speed of around 950 km/h, and putting the plane at a 15 to 20 degree climb. The amount of climb is entirely dependent on the pilots play style, as more aggressive players will enjoy a lower altitude. Since the F3H has a high maneuverability, it is recommended to go after lower-ranked vehicles, like the F-86A, MiG-15, and the Hunter F.1. If the F3H gets into a uncomfortable situation against these planes, it can simply dive away to avoid getting caught. Getting used to the four 20 mm cannons will also assist, as their damage is high, allowing for swift attacks in intercepting maneuvers. The most dangerous enemies of the F3H are the G.91 YS, and Lightning F.6 pilots, as they pick it off quite easily.

=== Modules ===
{| class="wikitable"
! Tier
! Flight performance
! Survivability
! colspan="4" | Weaponry
|-
| I
|Compressor
|Fuselage repair
|Offensive 20 mm
|
|Mk81
|AN-M57A1 BOX
|-
| II
|New boosters
|Airframe
|
|AERO 6A
|Mk82
|AN-M64A1 BOX
|-
| III
|Wings repair
|G-suit
|New 20 mm cannons
|AERO 7D
|Mk83
|Mk84
|-
| IV
|Engine
|Cover
|
|AIM-9B
|
|Mk118
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* One of the faster planes compared to its peers
* Can carry 4 AIM-9B missiles
* Wide variety of payload options
* Very good manoeuvrability

'''Cons:'''

* Loses much of its speed when manoeuvring

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

{{Youtube-gallery|kmLZDtH7FpU|'''The Shooting Range #208''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:52 discusses the F3H-2 Demon.}}

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6708-development-f3h-2-demon-linking-eras-en|[Devblog] F3H-2 Demon: Linking Eras]]

{{AirManufacturer McDonnell}}
{{USA jet aircraft}}

F3H-2

2020-09-16T23:25:00Z

U80920085: /* Survivability and armour */

{{Specs-Card
|code=f3h-2
|cockpit=cockpit_f3h-2.jpg
}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{Break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===

''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
|1149||1141|| rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} ||29.6||30.6||58.0||53.5|| rowspan="2" | 750
|-
! Upgraded
|1177||1163||26.6||28.0||87.5||72.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} ||833||833|| 370 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 810 || < 750 || < 700 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="6" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Basic Mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | Allison J71-A-2 || 1
| colspan="3" | 9,965 kg || colspan="3" | 299 kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="5" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 16m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 45m fuel || 53m fuel
|-
| 2,180 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
| 11,305 kg || 11,640 kg || 12,478 kg || 13,735 kg || 14,405 kg || 18,000 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="6" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 16m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 45m fuel || 53m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 4,590 kgf || 6,334 kgf
| 0.56 || 0.54 || 0.51 || 0.46 || 0.44 || 0.35
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 4,774 kgf (1,200 km/h) || 8,037 kgf (1,200 km/h)
| 0.71 || 0.69 || 0.64 || 0.59 || 0.56 || 0.45
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===

* there is no amour on the vehicle

* you are a large aircraft compared to sabres and migs

* the engine is quite large resulting in grazing bullets probably hitting your engine
* your wings are more than capable of taking high G forces so there is no need to worry about high speed turns
* fuel tanks are located throughout the belly and shoulders of the wings so there is the chance of fires being started

== Armaments ==
=== Offensive armament ===

{{main|Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 3 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 4 x 20 mm Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 3 cannons, -mounted (190 rpg = 760 total)

=== Suspended armament ===

{{main|LDGP Mk 81 (250 lb)|AN-M57 (250 lb)|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)}}
{{main|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)|M118 (3,000 lb)|AIM-9B Sidewinder|FFAR Mighty Mouse}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 6 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (1,500 lb total)
* 6 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (3,000 lb total)
* 6 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs (1,500 lb total)
* 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 6 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (3,500 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 1 x 3,000 lb M118 bomb (3,000 lb total)
* 56 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (2,000 lb total)
* 1 x 3,000 lb M118 bomb + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)
* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets

== Usage in battles ==

In Air Realistic battles, it is recommended to start a match with a fuel load of 20 minutes, gaining speed of around 950 km/h, and putting the plane at a 15 to 20 degree climb. The amount of climb is entirely dependent on the pilots play style, as more aggressive players will enjoy a lower altitude. Since the F3H has a high maneuverability, it is recommended to go after lower-ranked vehicles, like the F-86A, MiG-15, and the Hunter F.1. If the F3H gets into a uncomfortable situation against these planes, it can simply dive away to avoid getting caught. Getting used to the four 20 mm cannons will also assist, as their damage is high, allowing for swift attacks in intercepting maneuvers. The most dangerous enemies of the F3H are the G.91 YS, and Lightning F.6 pilots, as they pick it off quite easily.

=== Modules ===
{| class="wikitable"
! Tier
! Flight performance
! Survivability
! colspan="4" | Weaponry
|-
| I
|Compressor
|Fuselage repair
|Offensive 20 mm
|
|Mk81
|AN-M57A1 BOX
|-
| II
|New boosters
|Airframe
|
|AERO 6A
|Mk82
|AN-M64A1 BOX
|-
| III
|Wings repair
|G-suit
|New 20 mm cannons
|AERO 7D
|Mk83
|Mk84
|-
| IV
|Engine
|Cover
|
|AIM-9B
|
|Mk118
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* One of the faster planes compared to its peers
* Can carry 4 AIM-9B missiles
* Wide variety of payload options
* Very good manoeuvrability

'''Cons:'''

* Loses much of its speed when manoeuvring

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

{{Youtube-gallery|kmLZDtH7FpU|'''The Shooting Range #208''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:52 discusses the F3H-2 Demon.}}

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6708-development-f3h-2-demon-linking-eras-en|[Devblog] F3H-2 Demon: Linking Eras]]

{{AirManufacturer McDonnell}}
{{USA jet aircraft}}

A-4B

2020-08-30T18:21:01Z

U80920085: /* Details */

{{Specs-Card|code=a_4b}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{Break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American jet attacker {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.97 "Viking Fury"]].

The {{PAGENAME}} is an excellent aircraft for pilots who like to perform multiple roles without having to switch up aircraft. Possessing options to carry up to 5,000 lbs in bombs, 133 unguided rockets or five 20 mm autocannons with a total of 2,350 rounds of ammunition in what is effectively a "hot rod" of the jet world allows pilots to maximize their playstyle.

[[File:A-4B an trn 26 006.png|350px|thumb|left|A view of the suspended ordnance racks. Just one of the many options for the {{PAGENAME}}.]]

Though the manoeuvrability suffers when fully loaded, this jet attacker operates well at mid and lower altitudes, especially when unloading bombs and rockets on ground-based targets. The Skyhawk's air-to-air capabilities are not forgotten; however, as in actual usage, the missiles and internal 20 mm autocannons were more for defensive purposes or for taking out targets of opportunity. With the sheer amount of rockets when loaded, especially the Mighty Mouse variants, it is best to fire them off in salvos to ensure maximum damage inflicted.

This aircraft's nickname is "Scooter" for a reason, though not the fastest aircraft in the battle, with its petite size and massive payload, it is not uncommon for the {{PAGENAME}} to scoot behind enemy lines and rain down destruction on ground targets before anyone realizes what is going on. Though small in size, the Skyhawk should not be underestimated and considered a significant threat.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 1,050 || 1,040 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 37.7 || 39.0 || 30.8 || 28.3 || rowspan="2" | 900
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drag chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 615 || 615 || 410 || ~8 || ~3
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 650 || < 700 || < 670 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="6" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Basic Mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel, no boosters)
|-
| colspan="2" | Wright J65-W-16A || 1
| colspan="3" | 4,490 kg || colspan="3" | 288 kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="5" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load, no boosters) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 14m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 45m fuel || 49m fuel
|-
| 1,270 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
| 5,195 kg || 5,497 kg || 6,001 kg || 6,655 kg || 6,957 kg || 10,206 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="6" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%, no boosters)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 14m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 45m fuel || 49m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 3,213 kgf || N/A
| 0.62 || 0.58 || 0.54 || 0.48 || 0.46 || 0.31
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 3,248 kgf (200 km/h) || N/A
| 0.63 || 0.59 || 0.54 || 0.49 || 0.47 || 0.32
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===


The {{PAGENAME}}, designed to be a light-weight attack aircraft was half the weight of the Navy's design spec requirements. This initial weight savings meant that the plane did not have to skimp on pilot protection. Since the primary role of the aircraft is as an attacker, the pilot protection from the front and the underside is critical. From the front, the windshield portion of the canopy contains 50 mm bulletproof glass. Protective armour from the ground or naval based targets comes in the form of a 2.54 mm steel "tub" which the pilot's seat is situated in. The protective shield surrounds the pilot on all four sides (front, back, left and right) and makes up for most of the floor panelling, leaving room for the controls to go through. While the pilot is not invulnerable, the armour will provide a buffer for lighter calibre fire or shrapnel effects from missiles. The pilot does remain vulnerable to fighter aircraft approaching from above the cockpit.

There are three fuel tanks in the aircraft of which the two in the wings are non-self-sealing and pose a fire hazard if they catch on fire, however, the fuel tank situation directly behind the pilot is self-sealing.

* 50 mm bulletproof glass
* 2.54 mm Steel-plated "tub"
* Self-sealing fuel tank behind the pilot
* Non-self-sealing fuel tanks in the wings

== Armaments ==
=== Offensive armament ===

[[File:A-4B an trn 26 007.png|400px|thumb|right|A '''{{PAGENAME}}''' set up for air-to-air combat with its suspended centerline gunpod and AIM-9B Sidewinders.]]

{{main|Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 3 (20 mm)}}

The {{PAGENAME}} is outfitted with the following offensive armament:

* 2 x 20 mm Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 3 autocannons (100 RPG)

=== Suspended armament ===

[[File:A-4B an trn 26 003.png|400px|thumb|right|The 133 FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets effectively turns into a 70 mm autocannon which will not jam or overheat when fired as a salvo.]]

{{main|LDGP Mk 81 (250 lb)|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)|AIM-9B}}
{{main|FFAR Mighty Mouse|Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP|AGM-12B Bullpup|Mk 11 mod 5 (20 mm)}}

The {{PAGENAME}} can choose from a wide assortment of suspended armament combinations:

* 18 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs (4,500 lb total)
* 9 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (4,500 lb total)
* 5 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (5,000 lb total)
* 1 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb (2,000 lb total)
* 3 x AGM-12B Bullpup rockets
* 133 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 28 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder Air-to-air missiles
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 5 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,500 lb total)
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 6 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs (1,500 lb total)
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 5 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,500 lb total)
* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder Air-to-air missiles + 6 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs (1,500 lb total)
* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder Air-to-air missiles + 5 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,500 lb total)
* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder Air-to-air missiles + 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (3,000 lb total)
* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder Air-to-air missiles + 1 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder Air-to-air missiles + 1 AGM-12B Bullpup rocket
* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder Air-to-air missiles + 57 FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder Air-to-air missiles + 12 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
* 3 x 20 mm Mk 11 mod 5 autocannons (750 RPG, 2,250 total rounds)
* 1 x 20 mm Mk 11 mod 5 autocannon (750 RPG) + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder Air-to-air missiles

== Usage in battles ==


The {{PAGENAME}} while designated by the U.S. Navy as an attacker can work as a multi-role aircraft. Though the variety of armament leans heavily to the attacker side, this aircraft also has a fighter side which can feel more like a hotrod compared to some of the other fighters out there such as the [[F-4C Phantom II|F-4]] coming in at 14-tonnes more massive.

;Attacker

[[File:A-4B an trn 26 004.png|400px|thumb|right|Zuni rockets streaking towards their target.]]
The Douglas Aircraft Company built the {{PAGENAME}} from the ground up to be a small, fast and effective as an attack aircraft. While conventional wisdom would dictate that a larger aircraft would be necessary to carry enough suspended ordnance into battle to be effective, the Skyhawk shatters that myth. With only three hardpoints to attach ordnance to, specialized racks can extend the number of suspended weapons which the aircraft can carry. For instance, if using this aircraft to take out a mobile vehicle or anti-aircraft artillery, strapping on 18 x 250 lb bombs provides an opportunity to hit targets which may spread out or to divide ordnance between different clusters of targets. When attacking more heavily armoured targets or bases, the {{PAGENAME}} can choose to load up on 5 x 1,000 lb bombs or a single 2,000 lb bomb which creates considerable damage against ground targets.

Though bombs do a considerable amount of damage where they land, they are not the end-all answer to ground attack. Unguided rockets provide another option to the attacker-role of the aircraft. This aircraft has the option of loading up on 133 FFAR Mighty Mouse or 28 Zuni unguided rockets. When the pilot selects to fire these rockets in salvo mode, they have effectively turned their rockets into a large calibre autocannon which will not overhead or jam and continue to fire off rockets until the rocket tubes deplete of their ordnance. A salvo of Mighty Mouse rockets can also be extremely effective against aircraft or helicopters which may have a hard time getting out of the way when fired at from shorter distances. On domination maps, a salvo of rockets can make quick work of aircraft attempting to capture a runway. Bullpup rockets are another option; however, with only three loaded at a time, it is essential to be selective with the targets. To help with stabilizing the {{PAGENAME}} in a dive and while lining up targets, fuselage-mounted airbrakes can assist in preventing speed build up and stabilize the aircraft, however, once exiting an attack point, it is important to retract the airbrakes to allow for the aircraft to gain speed.

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Typically the {{PAGENAME}} was not used as a fighter; however, it carried armament which allowed it to defend itself or take on targets of opportunity. Always at its disposal is two 20 mm autocannons each with 100 rounds, however, these won't last too long in an extended engagement. Other options which allow the aircraft to flex its offensive muscles include AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles or suspended 20 mm gun pods. The AIM-9B provides the Skyhawk with a bit more reach allowing it to hit aircraft which may be faster or out of range of the guns. Typically, when launched from less than a mile away, the missile does not track to the target and instead fly off. For those pilots who enjoy fighting with aircraft guns, then the option to attach gun pods may be the way to go. Whether it is a single centerline gun pod or the addition of two more on each of the wing pylons, each suspended gun pod each contain 750 rounds of 20 mm ammunition.

Due to the diversity of weapons options afforded to the {{PAGENAME}} and their various configurations, pilots can customize their payloads to meet both their playstyle and missions. For those who want to unload the maximum damage against ground targets can choose solely to load up on bombs or rockets, while those opting for air-to-air can choose missiles and guns. Some pilots may want to take a smaller ground-attack load while affording some air-to-air protection with missiles. There is no right or wrong selection; it all depends on the fighting style of the pilot.

=== Modules ===
{| class="wikitable"
! Tier
! colspan="2" |Flight performance
! Survivability
! colspan="3" | Weaponry
|-
| I
| Fuselage repair
| Compressor
|
| Offensive 20 mm cannons
| Mk81
| AGM-12B Bullpup
|-
| II
| New boosters
|
| Airframe
|
| Mk82
| LAU-3/A
|-
| III
| Wings repair
| Engine
|
| New 20 mm cannons
| Mk83
| LAU-10/A
|-
| IV
| G-suit
|
| Cover
| Gunpod Mk 4 mod 0
| Mk84
| AIM-9B
|-
|}
=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Small aircraft profile
* Wide variety armament options for air-to-ground, air-to-air or a mix of both
* Pilot protection with cockpit armour and bullet-proof windscreen
* Very manoeuvrable with minimal suspended ordnance (or after ordnance has been expended)
* 20 mm autocannons mounted in the wing roots, convergence adjustment may come into play for extreme distance shots
* Can research Bullpup AGM's as a rank I modification.

'''Cons:'''

* Air-to-ground ordnance mounted under the wings negatively affect roll rate
* Fully loaded with ordnance makes it difficult to evade if necessary
* Average speed, can reach Mach 1 in an extended dive
* High stall speed

== History ==

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At a time when military aircraft were becoming more substantial in size to hold larger engines, more weapons, essential fuel and new technology, Douglas Aircraft's concept of the A-4 Skyhawk seemed counter-intuitive. The A-1 Skyraider, while a potent aircraft was starting to age out of the service as faster jets began to supplant the propeller-driven attacker. In the early 1950s, the U.S. Navy began its search for the next generation attacker and put out a requirement for an attacker with a maximum cost of $1 million and a maximum empty weight of 20,000 lbs (9,071 kg) and could carry enough ammunition to at least compete with the older but beefy A-1.

Ed Heinemann, a designer at Douglas Aircraft Company, responded with the XA4D-1 attack aircraft. Contrary to conventional wisdom, Heinemann's design focused on an attack aircraft which would be minimal in size and weight along with being a simple aircraft to maintain. Douglas Aircraft succeeded in winning the contract and what became known by nicknames such as "Scooter" or "Bantam Bomber", the XA4D-1 (later changed to A-4) was a winning solution to the Navy's needs. The resulting attack aircraft came in at just over $850,000 each while weighing half of what was the Navy's original specification, owing to weight savings with the wings, being as short as they were, there was no need for them to fold to save space while stowed on an aircraft carrier. "Scooter" was an appropriate nickname for the A-4 as its original prototype set a world speed record in 1955 with a speed of 695.163 mph (1,118.756 km/h).

The A-4 though small in size, did not differ much in design from other military aircraft of the day. The wing was a low-mounted delta shape which had single forge spars which spanned to both wingtips for extra strength. Tricycle configuration for the landing gear allowed the nose to remain relatively low for excellent pilot visibility mainly when operating on the deck of an aircraft carrier. A single turbo-jet engine mounted at the rear of the aircraft was fed by two air intakes located just behind the cockpit on each side of the fuselage. Offensive weapons for this aircraft consisted of two 20 mm Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 3 autocannons, each one located in a wing root. Only 100 rounds are available for each gun. Still, a single fuselage centerline hardpoint and a hardpoint under each wing allow for utilisation of a wide variety of missiles, rockets, bombs and gun pods.

At the start of the Vietnam War, the A-4 Skyhawk was the primary light bomber for the Navy. A total of 542 A-4Bs were built and delivered to the Navy. Upgrades over the A-4A consisted of improved navigation equipment and flight control systems. AGM-12 Bullpup missiles were also a new weapon for this aircraft. The Skyhawk also utilised the AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles; however, these were mostly used as a defensive weapon and rarely for offensive purposes.

The A-4 is a rugged little attack aircraft which remained in service with both the U.S. Navy and United States Marine Corps for over 20 years before being retired. However, more than sixty years after initial operations began, the Skyhawk is only now still in service with the Brazilian Navy.

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== See also ==
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== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6597-development-douglas-a-4b-skyhawk-a-story-of-simplicity-en|[Devblog] Douglas A-4B Skyhawk: A Story of Simplicity]]
* [[wikipedia:Douglas_A-4_Skyhawk|[Wikipedia] Douglas A-4 Skyhawk]]

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