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2S25M

2023-10-06T00:31:18Z

U78519691: /* Pros and cons */

{{About
| about = Russian light tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = 2S25
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ussr_2s25m
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Russian light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ground Breaking"]].

The 2S25M "Sprut-SDM1" is a modernized development of the previous [[2S25]] Sprut-SD and the capstone to the Soviet amphibious tank line. Although the external appearance is very similar, it is based on a revised BMD-4M chassis with the same engine and transmission as the [[BMP-3]]. Compared to the original Sprut, the 2S25M loses a significant amount of reverse speed and a small amount of horsepower, although the overall mobility remains good. The improvements are in the fire-control system, which now features thermal sights for both the gunner and commander and thus fixes one of the 2S25's original flaws. It also now has access to the powerful 3BM46 APFSDS round used by the [[T-80U]] to better deal with contemporary tanks. Although the 2S25M has impressive offensive capabilities, it routinely faces modern MBTs such as the [[Leopard 2A4]] and [[M1 Abrams]] that lessen or negate its mobility advantage. Thus, its playstyle demands even more caution.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
The 2S25M, also known as the Sprut-D, is a very capable vehicle which uses speed and agility over armor. The light armor of the Sprut tends to be a 'high risk-high reward' armor as it is only able to stop small firearms but generate little to no fragmentation from the penetration of a solid shot. However, chemical energy weapons such as HEAT and ATGMs will generate more than enough spall to defeat the crew. Armor is not to be relied on whatsoever, even against artillery fragmentation. Due to the oblique angles the frontal plates have, it is able to ricochet enemy projectiles but this is highly unlikely. One of the biggest drawbacks of the Sprut-D are the side-mounted ammo racks. In case of a successful penetration, these will be the first to detonate. It is advised to remove this racks to increase survivability of the platform. As with previous Russian light armor, the best armor is to not be seen by the enemy.

'''Armour type:'''

* Alloy ABT-102 (Hull, turret)
* Rolled homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 18 mm (73°) ''Upper plate'' 40 mm (35°) ''Middle plate'' 23 mm (63°) ''Lower plate'' || 20 mm || 20 mm (0-15°) || 15 mm
|-
| Turret || 20 - 43 mm ''Turret front'' 20 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 20 mm || 20 mm || 15 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=775|rbMinHp=442}}The Sprut-D leaves nothing to expect, high mobility and country-cross capabilities with a very powerful engine and reliable transmission. As seen in tanks based on the BMP-3 hull, the T/W ratio is impressive, giving a lightly armored vehicle a very high max speed as well as torque to advance even through the roughest of terrains. As its predecessor, it can reach speeds up to 70 km/h and 20 km/h on reverse with a gear change time from max forward drive to reverse in close to 5 seconds. It holds the ability to cross over water bodies, giving it an advantage in reaching positions no other vehicles are able to reach whatsoever. It has the ability to neutral steer, a feature not seen often in Russian vehicles.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|2A75 (125 mm)}}The Sprut-D is armed with a 2A75 125 mm smoothbore cannon, a similar cannon in performance as the T series tanks capable of firing the same munitions. While it doesn't fire the 3BM60 'Svinets-2' as the T-80BVM or the T-72B3, it fires the 3BM46 'Svinets-1' which is a very capable round in game. While it stays short compared to other rounds seen at top-tier, at 10.0 it is the best round seen followed by the M900. This round is able to pierce through all the tanks seen in game with some exceptions as the Leopard 2PL/A5/A6 turrets or M1A1/A2 turrets.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[2A75 (125 mm)|125 mm 2A75]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 40 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 33.3 || 46.1 || 56.0 || 61.9 || 65.9 || rowspan="2" | 7.10 || rowspan="2" | 7.10 || rowspan="2" | 7.10 || rowspan="2" | 7.10
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 20.8 || 24.5 || 29.8 || 32.9 || 35.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{{:2A75 (125 mm)/Ammunition|3BK18M, 3OF26, 3BM42, 9M119, 3BM46}}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''40''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|PKT (7.62 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[PKT (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm PKT]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 2,000 (250) || 700 || N/A || N/A
|-
| Pintle || 2,000 (250) || 700 || -8°/+50° || ±180°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The Sprut-D should be primarily used as a scout flanking vehicle due to its high speed, low profile, scouting capabilities and firepower. It holds primarily 3 uses:

'''Scouting:'''

As its name says, scouting. When on large maps, the scouting ability should be used at its full potential. The low profile and high speed make it able to crawl to cover fast and without creating much suspicion, while marking targets for friendlies to engage.

'''Flanking:'''

Due to the high speed and really powerful gun, it can be used to hit any enemy from behind. This tactic should be a "Hit n' Run", you should disable or destroy targets and leave before they can engage you. The powerful gun can take the heaviest of targets with ease if used properly

'''Sniping:'''

The capable optics, in combination with laser range finder and thermal optics, it is able to detect, target and engage enemy vehicles at all ranges thanks to any of its projectiles. Be aware of your ammo as it can only carry 22 on the carousel which can be consumed very fast, so make all shots count. Unless the commander is certain it has not been detected, moving between positions is adviced to ensure survivability, especially when the player respawns as an aircraft and is aware of the {{PAGENAME}}'s position.

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* Powerful gun
* Good cross-country capabilities
* Autoloader creates consistent reload even with two crew members
* Amphibious

'''Cons:'''

* Paper-thin armor
* Despite having an autoloader, the reload speed is decently long (7.1 seconds)
* In terms of reversing capability, the 2S25M is a downgrade (20.4km/h reverse) compared to the 2S25 (70km/h reverse)

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ussr_2s25m Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

== See also ==


* [[2S25]]
* [[Object 685]]

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

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{{USSR light tanks}}
[[Category:ATGM vehicles]]

SAAB-105G

2021-06-15T11:18:07Z

U78519691: /* Pros and cons */

{{About
| about = Swedish strike aircraft '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = SAAB-105 (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=saab_105g
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Hot Tracks"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 1,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 936 || 929 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 26.3 || 27.3 || 36.5 || 33.2 || rowspan="2" | 850
|-
! Upgraded
| 958 || 947 || 25.7 || 26.0 || 56.7 || 46.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| X || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || 387 || 350 || ~8 || ~4
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 550 || < 650 || < 550 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | General Electric J85-GE-17B || 2
| colspan="2" | 3,542 kg || colspan="3" | 425 kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 36m fuel
|-
| 181 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
| 3,978 kg || 4,414 kg || 4,850 kg || 5,112 kg || 6,500 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 36m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 1,220 kgf || N/A
| 0.61 || 0.55 || 0.50 || 0.48 || 0.38
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 1,220 kgf (0 km/h) || N/A
| 0.61 || 0.55 || 0.50 || 0.48 || 0.38
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


There is no armour on the SAAB-105G; the internal modules of the aircraft are fairly spaced out with engines far apart in the rear fuselage and fuel tanks taking up all of the wings and a portion of the forward fuselage. Beware of any wing damage when carrying heavy bomb loads as there is already a lot of strain on them, and they may overload sooner than you would expect.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Cross}}
|-
|}
=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)}}
{{main|RB24|m/56D|psrak m/49A|srak m/55 Frida|Akan m/55 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* 2 x 30 mm Akan m/55 cannons (150 rpg = 300 total)
* 22 x srak m/55 Frida rockets
* 12 x m/56D rockets
* 2 x 30 mm Akan m/55 cannons + 8 x m/56D rockets
* 6 x psrak m/49A rockets
* 2 x RB24 missiles
* 4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (3,000 lb total)
* 6 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (3,000 lb total)
* 4 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 30 mm Akan m/55 cannons + 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x RB24 missiles + 4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (3,000 lb total)
* 2 x RB24 missiles + 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x RB24 missiles + 4 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (4,000 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==

The SAAB-105G is a very flexible multi-role aircraft, best used in the interceptor role at the beginning of an air match, then changing armament mid-match depending on the situation. Thanks to its airspawn and 2 x [[RB24]] (Swedish [[AIM-9B]]) missiles, you can hunt down enemy bombers and heavy attackers before returning to base. Beware as these missiles have very poor tracking on targets doing anything more than flying in a straight line, so are best used on enemies who are too slow to manoeuvre or are otherwise unaware of your presence. Once you have spent the 2 missiles or there are no viable targets to use them on, you will need to return to base to rearm.

On your second take-off, you should consider if your team needs more air power to shoot down fighters, or if you can spend the time to bomb bases or attack ground units. The SAAB-105G gets two wing mounted 30 mm cannons, the same as on the previous SK60B, and performs similarly in a dogfight to that plane; you want to use your massive firepower and very stable turning characteristics to force enemies into turn fights. Be aware of your surroundings though, as the aircraft accelerates fairly slowly after manoeuvring and can make an easy target for far faster aircraft.

For ground attack, you have a very wide range of high performance weapons to choose from. All bombs and rockets have access to a bombing computer, making accurate attacks extremely easy, and the 30 mm gun pods have enough firepower to destroy light pillboxes and medium tanks in a short burst.

As a CAS aircraft in Ground RB you need to be aware of the airspace conditions before selecting your loadout. You are limited to 2 x 2 drops of any kind of bomb, but can only take the gun pods for dealing with air threats with the weaker 500 lb bombs. All bomb loads get access to the RB24 missiles as well, but the added weight is rarely worth taking due to the unreliability of the missiles. Thanks to the bombing computer though, landing even the 500 lb bombs within the 8 m vehicle destruction radius is very easy so long as the targets are not moving too quickly.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Airspawn in air RB.
* Excellent guns.
* Extremely early in BR access to air-to-air missiles in the RB24, ideal for scoring kills on Tu-4s, IL-28s, B-57s and other unaware or slow enemies.
* Wide variety of ground attack ordnance, including a heavy load of bombs with AAMs.
* Access to bombing computer, making accurate bombing runs even with low yield bombs very rewarding.
* Decent turning ability making for a capable dogfighter.
* Good airbrake and tricycle landing gear makes landing easy.

'''Cons:'''

* Below average acceleration, loses speed in vertical manoeuvres rapidly.
* Engines run very hot at 100% throttle, can be offset by setting to 98% throttle however.
* Unable to take RB24 missiles and gun pods at the same time, unlike the premium [[SAAB-105ÖE]].
* RB24 missiles are very unreliable on targets with any turning ability.

* Heavier bomb/AAM loads put massive strain on the wings, flying at high speed or making any sharp turns can rip the wings off very suddenly.

* Stiff elevator handling at high speed, hard to pull off from a high-speed dive

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=sweden&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=assault&vehicle=saab_105g Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Images
<gallery mode="packed-hover" heights="150">
Image:Sk60.jpg|Saab-105 in action!
</gallery>

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|08pSlYGwMkE|'''No Gunpod-Missile Combo! SAAB-105G - Sweden - Review!''' - ''Jengar''}}

== See also ==


* [[SK60B]]
* [[SAAB-105ÖE]]

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

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