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Ta 152 H-1

2023-10-04T12:54:05Z

U70267797: Cleaned up wording and grammar

{{About
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| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 C-3
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== Description ==


The German Air Ministry needed a high-altitude fighter to counter the Allied bombing campaigns. Kurt Tank, a notable German engineer, developed the Ta 152 which was heavily based upon the existing Fw 190 "Dora" series of aircraft. Three variants of the Ta 152 were developed but the H variant was the high-altitude fighter needed to defend German skies from bombers. Elements of the 190 Dora's airframe are clearly present on the 152 H such as the fuselage but the wings were elongated and the fuselage was stretched. In addition, the Jumo 213E engine utilized methanol-water injection (MW-50) as well as GM-1 boost. Coupled with the two-stage supercharger, the Ta 152 H could reach an impressive 755 km/h (472 mph) and an exceptional service ceiling of 14,500+ metres (47,000+ feet). This was a significant improvement over the Fw 190 D-9 and was one of the fastest propeller-driven aircraft of World War Two.

Present since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27, the '''{{Specs|name}}''' is an exceptional fighter for its battle rating, largely due to its excellent manoeuvring energy retention, airspawn, and speed. Although designed for high-altitude operation, the 152 H can hold its own at lower altitudes due to the MW-50 system, GM-1 boost, and good turn rate especially with flaps. The Ta 152 H-1 also has hard-hitting cannons: two 20 mm wing-mounted MG 151s, and one 30 mm MK 108 mounted through the propeller hub.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


While the Ta 152 H-1 is the ultimate evolution of the Fw 190, the [[Ta 152 C-3]] takes the Fw 190's concepts to their limit. Don't be dissuaded however, the H-1 is a different beast altogether. Fast, manoeuvrable, and stable past 350 km/h, it is more nimble than most enemies at its BR, has a decent climb rate, short turn time (especially with landing flaps), and above average roll rate. The Ta 152 H-1 trades the incredible roll rate of the Fw 190 for a great energy retention and turnfighting ability. You will outclimb most competitors and will usually have an altitude advantage due to the interceptor airspawn.

[[File:Cockpit Ta152.jpg|x150px|right|thumb|none|Cockpit of the Ta 152]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,200 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 725 || 707 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.1 || 21.3 || 14.0 || 14.0 || rowspan="2" | 315
|-
! Upgraded
| 788 || 755 || 20.3 || 20.5 || 22.2 || 17.5
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 536 || 404 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 360 || < 220 || < 500 || > 320
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
[[File:Ta 152 H-1 armor schematic.png|thumb|400px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 H-1, corresponds to the list on the left]]


# 15 mm Steel - Engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm Steel - Oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm Steel - Angled ammunition and pilot armour
# 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 70 mm Angled bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
# 20 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
# 8 mm Steel + 5 mm Steel - Rear pilot shield
# 5 mm Steel - Fuel tank shield

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 108 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

'''Usual tactic:'''

The Ta 152 H-1 is a high altitude fighter with a wide wingspan and good manoeuvrability. Unlike its heavier cousin the [[Ta 152 C-3]], the H-1's best performance is reached when flying above 9,000 m (~30,000 ft) altitude as this is where the engine performs at maximum efficiency. Its engine also overheats less past 6,500m, and the GM-1 nitrous oxide boost gives a substantial power increase past 7,000 meters. A Ta 152 H-1 with an altitude advantage is a deadly force to be reckoned with. Having great dive speed and energy retention, it can perform Boom and Zoom tactics well, yet switch to turnfighting as needed. With an interceptor airspawn, the climbing phase is shortened. However, the pilot must be aware of planes with a high climb rate like Spitfires or P-51s, as they can absolutely possess an altitude advantage at first contact, despite having to take off from the ground.

'''Strengths:'''

Even though the Ta 152 H-1 is an high altitude fighter, it can still perform at medium and low altitudes thanks to its MW-50 boost. Being quite manoeuvrable, it can do well in a dogfight against certain opponents, as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with combat flaps. However, some nimbler opponents will outmanoeuvre it easily if they possess an energy advantage. In these situations, it is best for the Ta 152 H-1 to use its primary strengths (speed, turning, and manoeuvring energy retention (MER)), to gain the upper hand. Another role for the Ta 152 H-1 is the interception of heavy bombers at high altitude. Even if the bomber is trying to escape, the Ta 152 H-1 will quickly catch up thanks to its powerful engine.

'''Flaps on the Ta-152:'''

When using this aircraft, you need to have in mind that you will need to regularly utilize the Ta 152's amazing flaps to perform well in dogfights. Using landing flaps can be difficult initially, but it grants the fighter a incredible turn rate against all targets in its BR, making adversaries such as the [[F8F-1B|F8F]] or [[La-9]] easy targets. If you have an energy advantage, even [[P-51]]<nowiki/>s and [[Ki-84 (Family)|Ki-84]]<nowiki/>s are not so dangerous. A good pilot can even regularly deal with such foes as [[A6M (Family)|A6M]]<nowiki/>s and [[Spitfire (Family)|Spitfires]] like the [[Spitfire F Mk IX|Mk IX]].

'''Great armament:'''

The armament of the Ta 152 H-1 is fairly powerful: the Minengeschoß-firing 30 mm MK 108 and 2 x 20 mm MG 151 have enough power to inflict heavy damage on most targets it will encounter. Though be aware that the MK 108 only has 90 rounds at its disposal and is most efficient at close range. Meanwhile, the two MG 151 have 175 rounds per gun for a total of 350 rounds, and can be used with much more liberty.

'''Enemies worth mentioning:'''

Enemies to be aware of in the Ta 152 H-1 are opponents such as the [[Spitfire F Mk 24]], [[F8F (Family)|F8F]], [[P-51H-5-NA]], [[F2G-1]] and [[Ki-84 (Family)|Ki-84]]. These foes can intercept and force the Ta 152 H-1 into dogfights on equal terms, trying to gain an energy or altitude advantage is key before engagement with these aircraft.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 5 gears || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact, and serves well in bomber interception
* Stable in all axes (joystick), and fairly nimble in a turn (mouse aim)
* Good armour layout protects both the pilot and engine, strong in head-ons
* GM-1 engine boost gives outstanding performance above 7,000 m, at these altitudes a good pilot can go head to head with any foe
* Combat flaps rip off at 700 km/h, which means you can use them at almost any speed
* Above average turnfighter for Germany, landing flaps increase turn so much that you can keep up with most fighters; even some Spitfires
* Has some of the best manoeuvring energy retention (MER) performance in the game, it will easily win a prolonged dogfight with good usage of flaps
* Excellent diver, wings only rip past 870 km/h (540 mph)
* Decently fast on the deck, can reach 580 km/h (360 mph) and will catch most enemies in a straight chase
* Very fast at high altitude (>7 km); at 12,200 m the Ta 152 H-1 will reach 755 km/h (469 mph), making it the fastest single engine German prop fighter

'''Cons:'''

* 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit
* Has a tendency to snap roll viciously, especially in a stall
* Very strong brakes, will easily flip over if not used sparingly, and is thus slower to land than most aircraft
* Losing your flaps through gunfire or otherwise is a massive detriment to turning performance and hampers your ability to dogfight effectively
* Despite having an above average roll rate, it is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
* Average climb rate, even with the airspawn it can be difficult to attain an altitude advantage over foes such as the Spitfire
* Below average ammo capacity, good trigger discipline is a must with the Ta 152 H
* Long wings increase chance of collision with enemy aircraft, especially in head-ons
* Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks due to wing surface area
* No external payload options or HVAP shells on the MK 108, making this strictly an air superiority plane

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude manoeuvrability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal center of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminium, steel spars were utilized aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152 C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152 C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152 C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152H variant

The Ta 152 H-1 was refined to be more of a high-altitude fighter even so over the Ta 152C. Wings were extended a full length of 14.4 m (47.4 ft), though this lowered its overall speed, it provided substantial improvement with high-altitude handling. To aid the pilots in the higher altitude flights, the H variant was outfitted with a pressurized cockpit. The cockpit was pressurized to approximately a level comparable with 8,000 m (26,250 ft) and the canopy was comprised of two layers of which the outer was a thicker material with a thinner inner pane. To compensate for any moisture which could form between the panes, silica gel was added to aid in stemming any fogging. Unlike the 'C' variant, the 'H' only utilized a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub along with just two MG 151/20 mm autocannons, both of which were mounted in the upper fuselage. Eliminating the two wing-mounted cannons aided in increased manoeuvrability and less weight to make up for some of the additional weight added due to the pressurized cockpit system.

Overall the Ta 152H variant was one of the fastest piston-engine fighters to emerge during World War II, cruising around 750 km/h (465 mph) while at around 10,200 m (33,000 ft). The Ta 152H also employed the usage of GM-1 nitrous oxide boost and MW 50 methanol-water boost to briefly increase performance in the aircraft and if necessary, both could be applied at the same time.<ref name="Militaryfactory" />

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{{Navigation-Start|{{Annotation|Archive of the in-game description|An archive of the historical description of the vehicle that was presented in-game prior to Update 1.55 'Royal Armour'}}}}
{{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
The Ta 152 was, without a doubt, the best aircraft designed by Kurt Tank for Focke-Wulf. The aircraft was a further redesign of the venerable Fw 190, namely of the Fw 190 D. The Ta 152 became possible thanks to the new high-altitude Jumo 213 and DB 603 engines.

Development began in the winter of 1942-1943, when RLM's technical department released specifications for a new 'Spezial Jaeger', or Special Fighter. The fighter was to be capable of a high-altitude interceptor role. The Ta 152 H-1 was armed with a MK 108 cannon with 85 rounds firing through the propeller hub and two MG 151/20 cannons (220 rounds per gun) in the wings. The H-1 went into serial production in January or February of 1945. A total of only 70 or so were produced, of which very few made it to front-line service.
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== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.ru/index.php?/topic/96066-ta-152-h1/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance (Russian Forum)]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Bostwick's P-47M-1-RE

2023-10-04T12:42:34Z

U70267797: grammar fix

{{About
| about = gift American fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = P-47 (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=p-47m-1-re
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
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== Description ==

'''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} American fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced as a [[wt:en/news/3071--en|premium pack]] in [[Update 1.49 "Weapons of Victory"]]. It was discontinued after the [[wt:en/news/6694-shop-may-sale-in-war-thunder-en|2020 May sale]], but has since been made available either for purchase in the store or in-game with Golden Eagles {{ge}} for specific American mini-events like the [[wt:en/news/6759/current|2020 "D-Day sale"]], the [[wt:en/news/7344-special-us-air-force-day-en|2021 "US Air Force Day"]], the [[wt:en/news/7875-special-us-air-force-birthday-en|2022 "US Air Force Birthday"]] and, most recently, the [[wt:en/news/8478-special-a-decal-and-two-fighters-to-celebrate-the-us-air-forces-birthday-en|2023 "US Air Force Birthday]]".

The Republic P-47M was the fastest of the production model Thunderbolts. The plane is painted after the camouflage scheme of American pilot George E. Bostwick in the US Army Air Force in the 56th Fighter Group.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


The P-47M is a high-altitude interceptor that has impressive armament and ordnance that serves it well in both the fighter and Close Air Support role. In Air RB, it is currently unequalled in performance at its battle rating, possessing ridiculous top speed, competitive climb rate, decent energy retention, great armament, and surprising manoeuvrability at speed.

As such, the P-47M is best played to its strengths as a Boom & Zoom and Boom & Run fighter in Air RB. In Ground RB it is an excellent fighter bomber with a good rocket/bomb load-out and .50 cals that can deal with most turret roofs.

The M variant was specifically setup to intercept Germany's buzz-bombs and the new [[Me 262 A-1a|jet]]/[[Me 163 B|rocket]] powered fighters. The primary advantage of this new variant came through speed. The aircraft was powered by either a Pratt & Whitney R-2800-14W or R-2800-5 engine while using the CH-5 turbo-supercharger. The aircraft was able to produce 2,800 hp, giving it higher top speed.

The P-47M has the flight performance of super-props. Top speeds above 5 km exceed literally any opponent besides the [[Ta 152 H-1]] (which is only faster at around 11-12 km). Climb rate is great, at around an average of 23 m/s from 0-6,000 m. WEP is available for up to 12 minutes to maximize engine output.

Interestingly (besides the better engine), the P-47M gets a unique airbrake which makes it very easy to stick behind the tails of opponents in a high-speed dive.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 9,144 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 726 || 711 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 25.3 || 26.1 || 10.8 || 10.8 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 794 || 760 || 22.8 || 24.0 || 23.3 || 15.9
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 498 || 469 || 320 || ~13 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 400 || < 420 || < 470 || > 335
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
[[File:P47M Armor Schematic.png|thumb|300px|Armour diagram of the P-47M-1-RE, corresponds to the list on the left]]
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


# 9.5 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 38 mm Bulletproof glass - Windscreen
# 9.5 mm Steel - Seat back and headrest armour plates

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|M2 Browning (12.7 mm)}}

'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 8 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (425 rpg = 3,400 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|HVAR}}

'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==


First of all, the P-47 should always fly fast. No matter the altitude, it is recommended to fly at speeds higher than 520 km/h (~320 mph). One of the few things the P-47 is terrible at doing is prolonged dogfighting. Imagine a truck loaded with cement with wings strapped to the side. Congratulations, you just pictured a P-47 flying at low speeds. Now, with this out of the way you must remember one thing and one thing only, when and where possible, fly high, the higher the better. The higher in altitude the P-47 goes the better the engine performs compared to its potential adversaries. The best altitude for the P-47M is around 9,000 m (~30,000 ft), but it still can perform very good at lower altitudes ranging from 6,000 m (~20,000 ft) to 8,000 m (~26,000 ft). One drawback of the P-47M's engine is that it can easily overheat when using WEP for extended periods of time. However just disabling WEP for few seconds should be enough to cool down the powerful Pratt & Whitney powerplant hidden under the hood. More experienced pilots can utilize Manual Engine Controls (MEC) to eliminate overheating entirely.

=== Combat tactics ===
'''Arcade''' - Much of what was mentioned above can be disregarded due to the adjusted flight model of arcade battles, instead just put your throttle to WEP, climb above your enemies and Boom & Zoom them. It is important to realize that while the P-47 can be the king of the hill, there are a few others which will buck for the spot too including Spitfires, Fw 190s and Bf 109s as they can climb as good as you and they often have cannons which in no time can dismantle a P-47 quickly in flight.

'''Realistic''' - A P-47M's pilot should not take any additional armaments such as bombs and rockets, they will only slow down the plane and make it an easy prey for Bf 109 K-4s, Ta 152s and Fw 190s. As soon as you take off from the airfield, divert 30 degrees to left or right (depends on where the middle of the map is, just don't climb towards the middle), engage WEP and climb at ~17-18 degrees. The best speed for climbing is around ~267 km/h IAS (~165 mph). When you reach an altitude of about 5,500 m (18,000 ft) start to gradually turn towards the middle of the map. Watch out for any enemy planes coming towards you, especially Ta 152s and Bf 109 K-4s which are your biggest threats as they have similar performance output compared to the P-47M. Approaching ~6,000 m, you will notice that climbing at 18 degrees becomes less efficient and is necessary to adjust the angle of attack to 10-15 degrees to maintain the optimal climbing speed. It is also a plausible option to stop climbing at this point since there is a good chance you will already be above everyone. Next, it is recommended to fly level and gain some speed, but not more than 400 km/h IAS (~250 mph) due to the air being thinner (your true airspeed will be very high at this point). In this situation, the P-47 will reign supreme over the skies. Look around you to see if there are any enemy planes spotted, and pick off the easiest targets. Preferably slow-flying fighters who are flying straight or climbing. If you cannot see such targets, position yourself to target those who pose the biggest threat to your aircraft advantageously (such aircraft are outlined at the bottom).

Weighing in at eight tons, the P-47M (and all other P-47s) carries vast inertia through manoeuvers so long as they are gentle and efficient. Above 500 km/h (~310 mph) you will find it is ''initially'' possible to best most fighters in the first or second circles of a sharp turn, but a vast amount of energy is consumed in the process. This can lead to a quick kill (ideally attempted against a foe you know you can outturn), but can rob you of your zooming escape should things go wrong. For this reason, pilots of this aircraft should adhere to quite possibly its biggest strength: fighting in the vertical. Unlike horizontal turnfights, fighting vertically requires substantially more energy as it is dependent on gravity and inertia rather than continuous lift generated by the wings. Horizontal turnfighting thusly plays into the strengths of light aircraft; P-47s are not light aircraft, do not turn horizontally in a P-47M unless you are absolutely certain of the outcome (as you will be committed). However, a skilled pilot does not have to worry about this. You will find that light and nimble opponents such as Spitfires or Zeroes succumb to sustained, long, vertical looping due to their inability to carry momentum through stall-fighting. The high straight-line top speed and sheer weight of your aircraft can even find one having an energy advantage over an enemy who may be 1-2 km ''higher'' than you are, resulting in a nasty surprise should they try and climb away (though you should always strive to begin with an altitude advantage). Conservation of inertia is key when setting up energy traps in the vertical; you want to give the enemy as little breathing room as possible. As a rule of thumb, try to reach at least 400 km/h (~250 mph) IAS while positioning and do your best to maintain this speed by not turning too sharply. This will make the zoom portion of an attack far more effective. Once adequate separation is achieved, more complex vertical manoeuvers can be used to spring the trap. Spiral climbing can be utilized to great effect against a tailing enemy at an (initially hidden) energy disadvantage. Just remember in this case to turn tight enough so as not to give them a shot at your rear before you come over the top once their energy is exhausted. Smarter foes may dive away, but it is possible to counter this by spiral ''diving'' such that they are "pressed" ever lower by the threat of you turning to get a shot on them. Do not fall for this bait and enter a horizontal turnfight, however. Instead, solely "suggest" such a manoeuver and reposition (ideally through a bout of spiral climbing) until their energy is at such a point where you can execute a proper attack. Ensuring your shots are on target and that enemy energy is depleted is key. You may not be able pull out of a steep dive if you shoot too late or execute too early, resulting in a humiliating crash as your quarry dives towards the ground to avoid you.

Always perform powered dives, and if you feel you're going too fast, just extend the airbrakes long enough to reign in the aircraft's speed. This is one of the biggest advantages of the P-47M over the D-series (though the [[P-47D-30 (Italy)|D-30]] also has them) and other comparable prop fighters. When you are finished with the Boom phase of your attack, resist the urge to climb outright. Instead, speed away from the enemies (preferably towards your teammates) while increasing distance between you and anyone tailing. When you gain ~3 km (~2 mi) of separation from enemy planes, you can begin the Zoom part of the tactic. Alternatively, you can remain level and fast if you feel that any potential pursuer could catch up to you. Once you are confident this won't happen, climb at 10 degrees and gain enough altitude to ensure that you have an energy advantage above enemy planes. In the most dire situations you can try to go for a head-on attack (only if you have at least 2.5 km separation from the enemy), but it's not recommended to do that as you will most likely damage your engine in the process. In the worst-case scenario, your plane will catch fire and burn up. If you see an enemy fighter who is attempting a diving attack, try and force them to overshoot, call for help and fly towards your closest teammate. You can shrug off a few hits to the fuselage, but anything that touches your wings and elevators will most likely disable or destroy the aircraft's ability to fly well or at all. Flying with friends is also an ideal source of help. Should you be the last on your team, climb as high as possible, look out for enemy fighters, and Boom & Zoom them. Bear in mind that the P-47 does not perform well in 1v2 dogfights; try and separate enemies to pick them off one by one. Bombers are typically a difficult target to go after as they usually soak up quite a bit of ammunition before taking critical damage while leaving you at risk of being set afire or sniped by the defensive gunners. However, the long effective range and shallow drop of the .50 cals makes it possible to attack some bombers from outside their own gunners' effective range.

It's important to remember that the P-47's first and foremost mission is air superiority, especially in the case of the P-47M. Taking bombs and rockets will make your plane even more sluggish than it already is and because of that you will have to fly near the ground, and that typically makes the P-47 easy pickings for other enemy fighters. This is not to say you should never attack ground targets however, and there are certain situations where it is more rewarding (e.g. no enemy fighters left). With a large ammunition pool of 3,400 .50 cal rounds, there will almost certainly be enough left over to wreak substantial havoc on soft targets. It's also important to note that the Ground Targets and Tracer belts are capable of destroying light pillboxes with ~100 rounds. For more flexibility in attacking, it is sometimes beneficial to RTB and take on ordnance, but you should only do this after expending all of your .50 cal ammunition. The two 1,000 lb and 500 lb bombs as well as ten HVAR rockets mean it is possible to engage hard targets such as tanks. Again, it must be remembered that this should only seriously be considered if the relative danger to your aircraft is virtually zero. But if this is the case, it can be very rewarding to the player, as well as help win the game faster.

It is important to mention the two schools of thought regarding the ammunition belts for .50 cals. The first one says that you should use Ground Targets belts because of the high amount of armour piercing rounds. These do a lot of damage and can easily shred anything hit with them. However, the second school of thought states one should use Tracer belts because they have the highest chance of setting the enemy on fire, which will typically lead to a fiery destruction of the enemy aircraft. But, there's one thing everyone agrees on: don't use Default belts, as the other available belts have a higher ratio of more damaging AP-T, API, and API-T bullets.

'''Enemies worth mentioning:'''

While flying the P-47M (or any P-47), it is best to be wary of opponents who possess unusually good energy retention/generation characteristics (vertical or otherwise) or tend to have an altitude advantage when entering combat:

-Any fighter of the Yak/La ([[Yak-3 (Family)|Yak-3]], [[Yak-9 (Family)|Yak-9]], [[La-7]], [[La-9]]) family and the [[I-225]] should be dealt with on as unequal terms as possible. Possessing extremely powerful engines on airframes weighing less than half yours, Yaks and La's shine in all aspects of energy fighting, and are also above-average turnfighters to boot. Running is not always an option as their acceleration is also very good. However, their poor structural limits of ~675 kph (420 mph) can be exploited (except for the I-225) to make a diving escape or high-speed pass depending on the scenario. Yak and La series aircraft also suffer from performance issues above 6,000 meters, at such altitudes you will stand a far better chance of victory.

-The [[Hornet Mk.III|Hornet]], [[Ki-83]], & [[F7F-3|F7F]] have some of the best performance of any prop plane, and they climb far better than you. As all of these get an interceptor airspawn, a possible scenario leveling out at 6,000 meters is seeing one of these two kilometers higher and closing fast. In such a situation, fighting in the vertical can be close to suicidal against such an energy advantage, and a last resort dive is often the only option. However, being heavy fighters, you can actually outturn these in more conventional manner (e.g. the horizontal), and an overshoot can quickly turn the tide in your favor.

-The [[Ta 152 H-1]] & [[G.56]] are pure energy fighters. In the hands of experienced pilots, these long-winged Axis superprops bring a deadly combination of speed, energy retention, and turnfighting to the table. Under no circumstances should you engage one of these at low altitude (<2,000 m), and/or low speed (<500 km/h) as they will make short work of your plane out of its element. Both stiffen in turns at higher speeds, however, and a skilled pilot can utilize the P-47M's excellent manouverability at speed to gain the initiative. Be sure to end the engagement quickly or you will lose energy rapidly.

-The [[Tempest Mk II]] is everything you are below 3,000 meters. As such, engaging with it at low altitude is extremely inadvisable as it produces unrivaled speed for a prop without a turbocharger and will outclimb near anything down there as well. It is roughly your equal in manouverability, however, and finding yourself on its six will often end well. The only problem is catching it. Diving from higher altitudes is a tactic that leaves even jets helpless at times, and as such you can apply this to the jet-like Tempest if hunting it is important, but this can leave you open to attack from enemy teammates.

-The [[J2M (Family)|J2M]] family excels at vertical energy fighting and famously hangs until almost 0 kph in a stall, while also possessing above-average climb rates. Should you encounter one, it is best to practice pure BnZ tactics against them. Their comparatively slow top-speed (615 kph for the J2M5) cannot compete with the P-47M in a straight line. However, do not be fooled into climbing early/into a stall, as they can retain that speed very effectively in a climb and get easy shots on you.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Auto control available || Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Separate || Controllable 1 gear || Auto controlled
|-
|}
To get the most performance out of your Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57(C), use 120% mixture from 0 to 7,000 m, 100% mixture from 7,000 to 8,500 m, and 60% mixture above 8,500 m; the turbocharger allows for the richest mix (and the most HP) at almost any altitude you will fight at. The default setting on auto mixture controls is 60%, setting it higher at these altitudes allows you to squeeze some extra horsepower out of the engine, which significantly improves the rate of climb. It is possible to set the oil and engine radiators to 0% and not worry about overheating when not using WEP. However, it is possible to do this ''and'' utilize WEP for the full 13 minutes without overheating ''so long as'' propeller pitch is set to (and does not exceed) 85%. Using auto prop-pitch settings, prolonged WEP usage will overheat the engine. To run WEP for extended periods of time with auto prop-pitch, set the oil radiator to ~15%, and engine radiator from 25% to 50% as needed. It is important to note that you have a limited WEP duration of ~12 minutes. While this is enough to last through most engagements, during prolonged battles it does well to conserve the boost for when it is most needed.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Forgiving aircraft
* Eight deadly .50 cal M2 Brownings
* Great ground-attack ordnance selection
* Unrivalled high altitude performance
* Very good high-speed manoeuvrability, excellent vertical energy retention
* Enemies are often surprised by the enhanced performance of what is usually seen as an easy target
* Good climb rate; can keep up with many fighters at its battle rating, unlike its earlier variants
* Radial engine is good at soaking up damage from the rest of the aircraft
* Airbrakes
* Access to premium bonuses in Silver Lion and Research Points

'''Cons:'''

* Payloads encourage a low-altitude attacker playstyle, playing into P-47M's disadvantages
* Still needs to sideclimb due to higher performance enemies at 5.7
* Sluggish acceleration on the deck as the turbocharger doesn't produce much extra horsepower
* Inadequate performance near the ground means most enemy fighters will be able to catch you
* Bleeds energy very quickly in sharp turns
* Poor low-speed manoeuvrability: a prolonged turnfight almost always ends badly
* Large size and wingspan makes it easier for enemy fighters to score hits on you
* While protective, the engine will typically suffer disproportionately at the cost of keeping the plane intact
* Engine easily catches fire when hit by 13/15/20 mm shells

== History ==


Four P-47D-27 Aircraft were pulled from the production line at the Farmingdale factory and were fitted with the Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57(C) engine. They were also equipped with a larger CH-5 turbo-supercharger allowing the aircraft to reach 2,800 hp at 32,000 feet. Air brakes were also added underneath the wings to aid in deceleration and recovery during dives. These four prototypes were re-designated YP-47M.

The engine installations were eventually added to the last 130 P-47D-30s from Farmingdale in Sept of 1944. They were all re-designated P-47M-1-RE. It is important to note that the under-wing racks were not fitted to this aircraft. It was intended to be strictly a fighter. They were delivered in Dec. of 1944. The dorsal fins were later added as a field modification.

The M-variant saw service with the 56th Fighter Group but problems with the new highly tuned R-2800 delayed their use until the last weeks of the war in Europe. At one point the aircraft was pulled from service and replaced with D variants until the aircraft performed reliably. The P-47M was never used against V-1 flying bombs, its original target.

The P-47M is most remembered for Major George Bostwick's engagements with the [[Me 262 A-1a|Me 262]]. Bostwick shot down a Me 262 on March 25 1945. He was able to damage a second one a few days later on April 7th.

His P-47M-1-RE had the nickname "Ugly Duckling" and a striking paint scheme.

== Media ==


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== See also ==


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* [[Lanovski's P-47M-1-RE]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/3073/current/|[Series] Maj. George Bostwick's P-47 Thunderbolt]]
* [http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/234553-republic-p-47m/ Official WT forum Aircraft Data Sheet section: "Republic P-47M"]

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== Description ==

'''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} American fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced as a [[wt:en/news/3071--en|premium pack]] in [[Update 1.49 "Weapons of Victory"]]. It was discontinued after the [[wt:en/news/6694-shop-may-sale-in-war-thunder-en|2020 May sale]], but has since been made available either for purchase in the store or in-game with Golden Eagles {{ge}} for specific American mini-events like the [[wt:en/news/6759/current|2020 "D-Day sale"]], the [[wt:en/news/7344-special-us-air-force-day-en|2021 "US Air Force Day"]], the [[wt:en/news/7875-special-us-air-force-birthday-en|2022 "US Air Force Birthday"]] and, most recently, the [[wt:en/news/8478-special-a-decal-and-two-fighters-to-celebrate-the-us-air-forces-birthday-en|2023 "US Air Force Birthday]]".

The Republic P-47M was the fastest of the production model Thunderbolts. The plane is painted after the camouflage scheme of American pilot George E. Bostwick in the US Army Air Force in the 56th Fighter Group.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
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The P-47M is a high-altitude interceptor that has impressive armament and ordnance that serves it well in both the fighter and Close Air Support role. In Air RB, it is currently unequalled in performance at its battle rating, possessing ridiculous top speed, competitive climb rate, decent energy retention, great armament, and surprising manoeuvrability at speed.

As such, the P-47M is best played to its strengths as a Boom & Zoom and Boom & Run fighter in Air RB. In Ground RB it is an excellent fighter bomber with a good rocket/bomb load-out and .50 cals that can deal with most turret roofs.

The M variant was specifically setup to intercept Germany's buzz-bombs and the new [[Me 262 A-1a|jet]]/[[Me 163 B|rocket]] powered fighters. The primary advantage of this new variant came through speed. The aircraft was powered by either a Pratt & Whitney R-2800-14W or R-2800-5 engine while using the CH-5 turbo-supercharger. The aircraft was able to produce 2,800 hp, giving it higher top speed.

The P-47M has the flight performance of super-props. Top speeds above 5 km exceed literally any opponent besides the [[Ta 152 H-1]] (which is only faster at around 11-12 km). Climb rate is great, at around an average of 23 m/s from 0-6,000 m. WEP is available for up to 12 minutes to maximize engine output.

Interestingly (besides the better engine), the P-47M gets a unique airbrake which makes it very easy to stick behind the tails of opponents in a high-speed dive.

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! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 9,144 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
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! Stock
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! Upgraded
| 794 || 760 || 22.8 || 24.0 || 23.3 || 15.9
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|}

==== Details ====
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! colspan="5" | Features
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
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| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X 
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! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 498 || 469 || 320 || ~13 || ~5
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 400 || < 420 || < 470 || > 335
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=== Survivability and armour ===
[[File:P47M Armor Schematic.png|thumb|300px|Armour diagram of the P-47M-1-RE, corresponds to the list on the left]]
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# 9.5 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 38 mm Bulletproof glass - Windscreen
# 9.5 mm Steel - Seat back and headrest armour plates

=== Modifications and economy ===
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== Armaments ==
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=== Offensive armament ===
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* 8 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (425 rpg = 3,400 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
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'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==


First of all, the P-47 should always fly fast. No matter the altitude, it is recommended to fly at speeds higher than 520 km/h (~320 mph). One of the few things the P-47 is terrible at doing is prolonged dogfighting. Imagine a truck loaded with cement with wings strapped to the side. Congratulations, you just pictured a P-47 flying at low speeds. Now, with this out of the way you must remember one thing and one thing only, when and where possible, fly high, the higher the better. The higher in altitude the P-47 goes the better the engine performs compared to its potential adversaries. The best altitude for the P-47M is around 9,000 m (~30,000 ft), but it still can perform very good at lower altitudes ranging from 6,000 m (~20,000 ft) to 8,000 m (~26,000 ft). One drawback of the P-47M's engine is that it can easily overheat when using WEP for extended periods of time. However just disabling WEP for few seconds should be enough to cool down the powerful Pratt & Whitney powerplant hidden under the hood. More experienced pilots can utilize Manual Engine Controls (MEC) to eliminate overheating entirely.

=== Combat tactics ===
'''Arcade''' - Much of what was mentioned above can be disregarded due to the adjusted flight model of arcade battles, instead just put your throttle to WEP, climb above your enemies and Boom & Zoom them. It is important to realize that while the P-47 can be the king of the hill, there are a few others which will buck for the spot too including Spitfires, Fw 190s and Bf 109s as they can climb as good as you and they often have cannons which in no time can dismantle a P-47 quickly in flight.

'''Realistic''' - A P-47M's pilot should not take any additional armaments such as bombs and rockets, they will only slow down the plane and make it an easy prey for Bf 109 K-4s, Ta 152s and Fw 190s. As soon as you take off from the airfield, divert 30 degrees to left or right (depends on where the middle of the map is, just don't climb towards the middle), engage WEP and climb at ~17-18 degrees. The best speed for climbing is around ~267 km/h IAS (~165 mph). When you reach an altitude of about 5,500 m (18,000 ft) start to gradually turn towards the middle of the map. Watch out for any enemy planes coming towards you, especially Ta 152s and Bf 109 K-4s which are your biggest threats as they have similar performance output compared to the P-47M. Approaching ~6,000 m, you will notice that climbing at 18 degrees becomes less efficient and is necessary to adjust the angle of attack to 10-15 degrees to maintain the optimal climbing speed. It is also a plausible option to stop climbing at this point since there is a good chance you will already be above everyone. Next, it is recommended to fly level and gain some speed, but not more than 400 km/h IAS (~250 mph) due to the air being thinner (your true airspeed will be very high at this point). In this situation, the P-47 will reign supreme over the skies. Look around you to see if there are any enemy planes spotted, and pick off the easiest targets. Preferably slow-flying fighters who are flying straight or climbing. If you cannot see such targets, position yourself to target those who pose the biggest threat to your aircraft advantageously (such aircraft are outlined at the bottom).

Weighing in at eight tons, the P-47M (and all other P-47s) carries vast inertia through manoeuvers so long as they are gentle and efficient. Above 500 km/h (~310 mph) you will find it is ''initially'' possible to best most fighters in the first or second circles of a sharp turn, but a vast amount of energy is consumed in the process. This can lead to a quick kill (ideally attempted against a foe you know you can outturn), but can rob you of your zooming escape should things go wrong. For this reason, pilots of this aircraft should adhere to quite possibly its biggest strength: fighting in the vertical. Unlike horizontal turnfights, fighting vertically requires substantially more energy as it is dependent on gravity and inertia than continuous lift generated by the wings. Horizontal turnfighting thusly plays into the strengths of light aircraft; P-47s are not light aircraft, do not turn horizontally in a P-47M unless you are absolutely certain of the outcome (as you will be committed). However, a skilled pilot does not have to worry about this. You will find that light and nimble opponents such as Spitfires or Zeroes succumb to sustained, long, vertical looping due to their inability to carry momentum through stall-fighting. The high straight-line top speed and sheer weight of your aircraft can even find one having an energy advantage over an enemy who may be 1-2 km ''higher'' than you are, resulting in a nasty surprise should they try and climb away (though you should always strive to begin with an altitude advantage). Conservation of inertia is key when setting up energy traps in the vertical; you want to give the enemy as little breathing room as possible. As a rule of thumb, try to reach at least 400 km/h (~250 mph) IAS while positioning and do your best to maintain this speed by not turning too sharply. This will make the zoom portion of an attack far more effective. Once adequate separation is achieved, more complex vertical manoeuvers can be used to spring the trap. Spiral climbing can be utilized to great effect against a tailing enemy at an (initially hidden) energy disadvantage. Just remember in this case to turn tight enough so as not to give them a shot at your rear before you come over the top once their energy is exhausted. Smarter foes may dive away, but it is possible to counter this by spiral ''diving'' such that they are "pressed" ever lower by the threat of you turning to get a shot on them. Do not fall for this bait and enter a horizontal turnfight, however. Instead, solely "suggest" such a manoeuver and reposition (ideally through a bout of spiral climbing) until their energy is at such a point where you can execute a proper attack. Ensuring your shots are on target and that enemy energy is depleted is key. You may not be able pull out of a steep dive if you shoot too late or execute too early, resulting in a humiliating crash as your quarry dives towards the ground to avoid you.

Always perform powered dives, and if you feel you're going too fast, just extend the airbrakes long enough to reign in the aircraft's speed. This is one of the biggest advantages of the P-47M over the D-series (though the [[P-47D-30 (Italy)|D-30]] also has them) and other comparable prop fighters. When you are finished with the Boom phase of your attack, resist the urge to climb outright. Instead, speed away from the enemies (preferably towards your teammates) while increasing distance between you and anyone tailing. When you gain ~3 km (~2 mi) of separation from enemy planes, you can begin the Zoom part of the tactic. Alternatively, you can remain level and fast if you feel that any potential pursuer could catch up to you. Once you are confident this won't happen, climb at 10 degrees and gain enough altitude to ensure that you have an energy advantage above enemy planes. In the most dire situations you can try to go for a head-on attack (only if you have at least 2.5 km separation from the enemy), but it's not recommended to do that as you will most likely damage your engine in the process. In the worst-case scenario, your plane will catch fire and burn up. If you see an enemy fighter who is attempting a diving attack, try and force them to overshoot, call for help and fly towards your closest teammate. You can shrug off a few hits to the fuselage, but anything that touches your wings and elevators will most likely disable or destroy the aircraft's ability to fly well or at all. Flying with friends is also an ideal source of help. Should you be the last on your team, climb as high as possible, look out for enemy fighters, and Boom & Zoom them. Bear in mind that the P-47 does not perform well in 1v2 dogfights; try and separate enemies to pick them off one by one. Bombers are typically a difficult target to go after as they usually soak up quite a bit of ammunition before taking critical damage while leaving you at risk of being set afire or sniped by the defensive gunners. However, the long effective range and shallow drop of the .50 cals makes it possible to attack some bombers from outside their own gunners' effective range.

It's important to remember that the P-47's first and foremost mission is air superiority, especially in the case of the P-47M. Taking bombs and rockets will make your plane even more sluggish than it already is and because of that you will have to fly near the ground, and that typically makes the P-47 easy pickings for other enemy fighters. This is not to say you should never attack ground targets however, and there are certain situations where it is more rewarding (e.g. no enemy fighters left). With a large ammunition pool of 3,400 .50 cal rounds, there will almost certainly be enough left over to wreak substantial havoc on soft targets. It's also important to note that the Ground Targets and Tracer belts are capable of destroying light pillboxes with ~100 rounds. For more flexibility in attacking, it is sometimes beneficial to RTB and take on ordnance, but you should only do this after expending all of your .50 cal ammunition. The two 1,000 lb and 500 lb bombs as well as ten HVAR rockets mean it is possible to engage hard targets such as tanks. Again, it must be remembered that this should only seriously be considered if the relative danger to your aircraft is virtually zero. But if this is the case, it can be very rewarding to the player, as well as help win the game faster.

It is important to mention the two schools of thought regarding the ammunition belts for .50 cals. The first one says that you should use Ground Targets belts because of the high amount of armour piercing rounds. These do a lot of damage and can easily shred anything hit with them. However, the second school of thought states one should use Tracer belts because they have the highest chance of setting the enemy on fire, which will typically lead to a fiery destruction of the enemy aircraft. But, there's one thing everyone agrees on: don't use Default belts, as the other available belts have a higher ratio of more damaging AP-T, API, and API-T bullets.

'''Enemies worth mentioning:'''

While flying the P-47M (or any P-47), it is best to be wary of opponents who possess unusually good energy retention/generation characteristics (vertical or otherwise) or tend to have an altitude advantage when entering combat:

-Any fighter of the Yak/La ([[Yak-3 (Family)|Yak-3]], [[Yak-9 (Family)|Yak-9]], [[La-7]], [[La-9]]) family and the [[I-225]] should be dealt with on as unequal terms as possible. Possessing extremely powerful engines on airframes weighing less than half yours, Yaks and La's shine in all aspects of energy fighting, and are also above-average turnfighters to boot. Running is not always an option as their acceleration is also very good. However, their poor structural limits of ~675 kph (420 mph) can be exploited (except for the I-225) to make a diving escape or high-speed pass depending on the scenario. Yak and La series aircraft also suffer from performance issues above 6,000 meters, at such altitudes you will stand a far better chance of victory.

-The [[Hornet Mk.III|Hornet]], [[Ki-83]], & [[F7F-3|F7F]] have some of the best performance of any prop plane, and they climb far better than you. As all of these get an interceptor airspawn, a possible scenario leveling out at 6,000 meters is seeing one of these two kilometers higher and closing fast. In such a situation, fighting in the vertical can be close to suicidal against such an energy advantage, and a last resort dive is often the only option. However, being heavy fighters, you can actually outturn these in more conventional manner (e.g. the horizontal), and an overshoot can quickly turn the tide in your favor.

-The [[Ta 152 H-1]] & [[G.56]] are pure energy fighters. In the hands of experienced pilots, these long-winged Axis superprops bring a deadly combination of speed, energy retention, and turnfighting to the table. Under no circumstances should you engage one of these at low altitude (<2,000 m), and/or low speed (<500 km/h) as they will make short work of your plane out of its element. Both stiffen in turns at higher speeds, however, and a skilled pilot can utilize the P-47M's excellent manouverability at speed to gain the initiative. Be sure to end the engagement quickly or you will lose energy rapidly.

-The [[Tempest Mk II]] is everything you are below 3,000 meters. As such, engaging with it at low altitude is extremely inadvisable as it produces unrivaled speed for a prop without a turbocharger and will outclimb near anything down there as well. It is roughly your equal in manouverability, however, and finding yourself on its six will often end well. The only problem is catching it. Diving from higher altitudes is a tactic that leaves even jets helpless at times, and as such you can apply this to the jet-like Tempest if hunting it is important, but this can leave you open to attack from enemy teammates.

-The [[J2M (Family)|J2M]] family excels at vertical energy fighting and famously hangs until almost 0 kph in a stall, while also possessing above-average climb rates. Should you encounter one, it is best to practice pure BnZ tactics against them. Their comparatively slow top-speed (615 kph for the J2M5) cannot compete with the P-47M in a straight line. However, do not be fooled into climbing early/into a stall, as they can retain that speed very effectively in a climb and get easy shots on you.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Auto control available || Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Separate || Controllable 1 gear || Auto controlled
|-
|}
To get the most performance out of your Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57(C), use 120% mixture from 0 to 7,000 m, 100% mixture from 7,000 to 8,500 m, and 60% mixture above 8,500 m; the turbocharger allows for the richest mix (and the most HP) at almost any altitude you will fight at. The default setting on auto mixture controls is 60%, setting it higher at these altitudes allows you to squeeze some extra horsepower out of the engine, which significantly improves the rate of climb. It is possible to set the oil and engine radiators to 0% and not worry about overheating when not using WEP. However, it is possible to do this ''and'' utilize WEP for the full 13 minutes without overheating ''so long as'' propeller pitch is set to (and does not exceed) 85%. Using auto prop-pitch settings, prolonged WEP usage will overheat the engine. To run WEP for extended periods of time with auto prop-pitch, set the oil radiator to ~15%, and engine radiator from 25% to 50% as needed. It is important to note that you have a limited WEP duration of ~12 minutes. While this is enough to last through most engagements, during prolonged battles it does well to conserve the boost for when it is most needed.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Forgiving aircraft
* Eight deadly .50 cal M2 Brownings
* Great ground-attack ordnance selection
* Unrivalled high altitude performance
* Very good high-speed manoeuvrability, excellent vertical energy retention
* Enemies are often surprised by the enhanced performance of what is usually seen as an easy target
* Good climb rate; can keep up with many fighters at its battle rating, unlike its earlier variants
* Radial engine is good at soaking up damage from the rest of the aircraft
* Airbrakes
* Access to premium bonuses in Silver Lion and Research Points

'''Cons:'''

* Payloads encourage a low-altitude attacker playstyle, playing into P-47M's disadvantages
* Still needs to sideclimb due to higher performance enemies at 5.7
* Sluggish acceleration on the deck as the turbocharger doesn't produce much extra horsepower
* Inadequate performance near the ground means most enemy fighters will be able to catch you
* Bleeds energy very quickly in sharp turns
* Poor low-speed manoeuvrability: a prolonged turnfight almost always ends badly
* Large size and wingspan makes it easier for enemy fighters to score hits on you
* While protective, the engine will typically suffer disproportionately at the cost of keeping the plane intact
* Engine easily catches fire when hit by 13/15/20 mm shells

== History ==


Four P-47D-27 Aircraft were pulled from the production line at the Farmingdale factory and were fitted with the Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57(C) engine. They were also equipped with a larger CH-5 turbo-supercharger allowing the aircraft to reach 2,800 hp at 32,000 feet. Air brakes were also added underneath the wings to aid in deceleration and recovery during dives. These four prototypes were re-designated YP-47M.

The engine installations were eventually added to the last 130 P-47D-30s from Farmingdale in Sept of 1944. They were all re-designated P-47M-1-RE. It is important to note that the under-wing racks were not fitted to this aircraft. It was intended to be strictly a fighter. They were delivered in Dec. of 1944. The dorsal fins were later added as a field modification.

The M-variant saw service with the 56th Fighter Group but problems with the new highly tuned R-2800 delayed their use until the last weeks of the war in Europe. At one point the aircraft was pulled from service and replaced with D variants until the aircraft performed reliably. The P-47M was never used against V-1 flying bombs, its original target.

The P-47M is most remembered for Major George Bostwick's engagements with the [[Me 262 A-1a|Me 262]]. Bostwick shot down a Me 262 on March 25 1945. He was able to damage a second one a few days later on April 7th.

His P-47M-1-RE had the nickname "Ugly Duckling" and a striking paint scheme.

== Media ==


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== See also ==


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* [[Lanovski's P-47M-1-RE]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/3073/current/|[Series] Maj. George Bostwick's P-47 Thunderbolt]]
* [http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/234553-republic-p-47m/ Official WT forum Aircraft Data Sheet section: "Republic P-47M"]

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== Description ==

'''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} American fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced as a [[wt:en/news/3071--en|premium pack]] in [[Update 1.49 "Weapons of Victory"]]. It was discontinued after the [[wt:en/news/6694-shop-may-sale-in-war-thunder-en|2020 May sale]], but has since been made available either for purchase in the store or in-game with Golden Eagles {{ge}} for specific American mini-events like the [[wt:en/news/6759/current|2020 "D-Day sale"]], the [[wt:en/news/7344-special-us-air-force-day-en|2021 "US Air Force Day"]], the [[wt:en/news/7875-special-us-air-force-birthday-en|2022 "US Air Force Birthday"]] and, most recently, the [[wt:en/news/8478-special-a-decal-and-two-fighters-to-celebrate-the-us-air-forces-birthday-en|2023 "US Air Force Birthday]]".

The Republic P-47M was the fastest of the production model Thunderbolts. The plane is painted after the camouflage scheme of American pilot George E. Bostwick in the US Army Air Force in the 56th Fighter Group.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
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The P-47M is a high-altitude interceptor that has impressive armament and ordnance that serves it well in both the fighter and Close Air Support role. In Air RB, it is currently unequalled in performance at its battle rating, possessing ridiculous top speed, competitive climb rate, decent energy retention, great armament, and surprising manoeuvrability at speed.

As such, the P-47M is best played to its strengths as a Boom & Zoom and Boom & Run fighter in Air RB. In Ground RB it is an excellent fighter bomber with a good rocket/bomb load-out and .50 cals that can deal with most turret roofs.

The M variant was specifically setup to intercept Germany's buzz-bombs and the new [[Me 262 A-1a|jet]]/[[Me 163 B|rocket]] powered fighters. The primary advantage of this new variant came through speed. The aircraft was powered by either a Pratt & Whitney R-2800-14W or R-2800-5 engine while using the CH-5 turbo-supercharger. The aircraft was able to produce 2,800 hp, giving it higher top speed.

The P-47M has the flight performance of super-props. Top speeds above 5 km exceed literally any opponent besides the [[Ta 152 H-1]] (which is only faster at around 11-12 km). Climb rate is great, at around an average of 23 m/s from 0-6,000 m. WEP is available for up to 12 minutes to maximize engine output.

Interestingly (besides the better engine), the P-47M gets a unique airbrake which makes it very easy to stick behind the tails of opponents in a high-speed dive.

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! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 9,144 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
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! Stock
| 726 || 711 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 25.3 || 26.1 || 10.8 || 10.8 || rowspan="2" | 500
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! Upgraded
| 794 || 760 || 22.8 || 24.0 || 23.3 || 15.9
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|}

==== Details ====
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! colspan="5" | Features
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
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| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X 
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! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 498 || 469 || 320 || ~13 || ~5
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 400 || < 420 || < 470 || > 335
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=== Survivability and armour ===
[[File:P47M Armor Schematic.png|thumb|300px|Armour diagram of the P-47M-1-RE, corresponds to the list on the left]]
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# 9.5 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 38 mm Bulletproof glass - Windscreen
# 9.5 mm Steel - Seat back and headrest armour plates

=== Modifications and economy ===
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== Armaments ==
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=== Offensive armament ===
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'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 8 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (425 rpg = 3,400 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
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{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|HVAR}}

'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==


First of all, the P-47 should always fly fast. No matter the altitude, it is recommended to fly at speeds higher than 520 km/h (~320 mph). One of the few things the P-47 is terrible at doing is prolonged dogfighting. Imagine a truck loaded with cement with wings strapped to the side. Congratulations, you just pictured a P-47 flying at low speeds. Now, with this out of the way you must remember one thing and one thing only, when and where possible, fly high, the higher the better. The higher in altitude the P-47 goes the better the engine performs compared to its potential adversaries. The best altitude for the P-47M is around 9,000 m (~30,000 ft), but it still can perform very good at lower altitudes ranging from 6,000 m (~20,000 ft) to 8,000 m (~26,000 ft). One drawback of the P-47M's engine is that it can easily overheat when using WEP for extended periods of time. However just disabling WEP for few seconds should be enough to cool down the powerful Pratt & Whitney powerplant hidden under the hood. More experienced pilots can utilize Manual Engine Controls (MEC) to eliminate overheating entirely.

=== Combat tactics ===
'''Arcade''' - Much of what was mentioned above can be disregarded due to the adjusted flight model of arcade battles, instead just put your throttle to WEP, climb above your enemies and Boom & Zoom them. It is important to realize that while the P-47 can be the king of the hill, there are a few others which will buck for the spot too including Spitfires, Fw 190s and Bf 109s as they can climb as good as you and they often have cannons which in no time can dismantle a P-47 quickly in flight.

'''Realistic''' - A P-47M's pilot should not take any additional armaments such as bombs and rockets, they will only slow down the plane and make it an easy prey for Bf 109 K-4s, Ta 152s and Fw 190s. As soon as you take off from the airfield, divert 30 degrees to left or right (depends on where the middle of the map is, just don't climb towards the middle), engage WEP and climb at ~17-18 degrees. The best speed for climbing is around ~267 km/h IAS (~165 mph). When you reach an altitude of about 5,500 m (18,000 ft) start to gradually turn towards the middle of the map. Watch out for any enemy planes coming towards you, especially Ta 152s and Bf 109 K-4s which are your biggest threats as they have similar performance output compared to the P-47M. Approaching ~6,000 m, you will notice that climbing at 18 degrees becomes less efficient and is necessary to adjust the angle of attack to 10-15 degrees to maintain the optimal climbing speed. It is also a plausible option to stop climbing at this point since there is a good chance you will already be above everyone. Next, it is recommended to fly level and gain some speed, but not more than 400 km/h IAS (~250 mph) due to the air being thinner (your true airspeed will be very high at this point). In this situation, the P-47 will reign supreme over the skies. Look around you to see if there are any enemy planes spotted, and pick off the easiest targets. Preferably slow-flying fighters who are flying straight or climbing. If you cannot see such targets, position yourself to target those who pose the biggest threat to your aircraft advantageously (such aircraft are outlined at the bottom).

Weighing in at eight tons, the P-47M (and all other P-47s) carries vast inertia through manoeuvers so long as they are gentle and efficient. Above 500 km/h (~310 mph) you will find it is ''initially'' possible to best most fighters in the first or second circles of a sharp turn, but a vast amount of energy is consumed in the process. This can lead to a quick kill (ideally attempted against a foe you know you can outturn), but can rob you of your zooming escape should things go wrong. For this reason, pilots of this aircraft should adhere to quite possibly its biggest strength: fighting in the vertical. Unlike horizontal turnfights, fighting vertically requires substantially more energy as it is dependent on gravity and inertia than continuous lift generated by the wings. Horizontal turnfighting thusly plays into the strengths of light aircraft; P-47s are not light aircraft, do not turn horizontally in a P-47M unless you are absolutely certain of the outcome (as you will be committed). However, a skilled pilot does not have to worry about this. You will find that light and nimble opponents such as Spitfires or Zeroes succumb to sustained, long, vertical looping due to their inability to carry momentum through stall-fighting. The high straight-line top speed and sheer weight of your aircraft can even find one having an energy advantage over an enemy who may be 1-2 km ''higher'' than you are, resulting in a nasty surprise should they try and climb away (though you should always strive to begin with an altitude advantage). Conservation of inertia is key when setting up energy traps in the vertical; you want to give the enemy as little breathing room as possible. As a rule of thumb, try to reach at least 400 km/h (~250 mph) IAS while positioning and do your best to maintain this speed by not turning too sharply. This will make the zoom portion of an attack far more effective. Once adequate separation is achieved, more complex vertical manoeuvers can be used to spring the trap. Spiral climbing can be utilized to great effect against a tailing enemy at an (initially hidden) energy disadvantage. Just remember in this case to turn tight enough so as not to give them a shot at your rear before you come over the top once their energy is exhausted. Smarter foes may dive away, but it is possible to counter this by spiral ''diving'' such that they are "pressed" ever lower by the threat of you turning to get a shot on them. Do not fall for this bait and enter a horizontal turnfight, however. Instead, solely "suggest" such a manoeuver and reposition (ideally through a bout of spiral climbing) until their energy is at such a point where you can execute a proper attack. Ensuring your shots are on target and that enemy energy is depleted is key. You may not be able pull out of a steep dive if you shoot too late or execute too early, resulting in a humiliating crash as your quarry dives towards the ground to avoid you.

Always perform powered dives, and if you feel you're going too fast, just extend the airbrakes long enough to reign in the aircraft's speed. This is one of the biggest advantages of the P-47M over the D-series (though the [[P-47D-30 (Italy)|D-30]] also has them) and other comparable prop fighters. When you are finished with the Boom phase of your attack, resist the urge to climb outright. Instead, speed away from the enemies (preferably towards your teammates) while increasing distance between you and anyone tailing. When you gain ~3 km (~2 mi) of separation from enemy planes, you can begin the Zoom part of the tactic. Alternatively, you can remain level and fast if you feel that any potential pursuer could catch up to you. Once you are confident this won't happen, climb at 10 degrees and gain enough altitude to ensure that you have an energy advantage above enemy planes. In the most dire situations you can try to go for a head-on attack (only if you have at least 2.5 km separation from the enemy), but it's not recommended to do that as you will most likely damage your engine in the process. In the worst-case scenario, your plane will catch fire and burn up. If you see an enemy fighter who is attempting a diving attack, try and force them to overshoot, call for help and fly towards your closest teammate. You can shrug off a few hits to the fuselage, but anything that touches your wings and elevators will most likely disable or destroy the aircraft's ability to fly well or at all. Flying with friends is also an ideal source of help. Should you be the last on your team, climb as high as possible, look out for enemy fighters, and Boom & Zoom them. Bear in mind that the P-47 does not perform well in 1v2 dogfights; try and separate enemies to pick them off one by one. Bombers are typically a difficult target to go after as they usually soak up quite a bit of ammunition before taking critical damage while leaving you at risk of being set afire or sniped by the defensive gunners. However, the long effective range and shallow drop of the .50 cals makes it possible to attack some bombers from outside their own gunners' effective range.

It's important to remember that the P-47's first and foremost mission is air superiority, especially in the case of the P-47M. Taking bombs and rockets will make your plane even more sluggish than it already is and because of that you will have to fly near the ground, and that typically makes the P-47 easy pickings for other enemy fighters. This is not to say you should never attack ground targets however, and there are certain situations where it is more rewarding (e.g. no enemy fighters left). With a large ammunition pool of 3,400 .50 cal rounds, there will almost certainly be enough left over to wreak substantial havoc on soft targets. It's also important to note that the Ground Targets and Tracer belts are capable of destroying light pillboxes with ~100 rounds. For more flexibility in attacking, it is sometimes beneficial to RTB and take on ordnance, but you should only do this after expending all of your .50 cal ammunition. The two 1,000 lb and 500 lb bombs as well as ten HVAR rockets mean it is possible to engage hard targets such as tanks. Again, it must be remembered that this should only seriously be considered if the relative danger to your aircraft is virtually zero. But if this is the case, it can be very rewarding to the player, as well as help win the game faster.

It is important to mention the two schools of thought regarding the ammunition belts for .50 cals. The first one says that you should use Ground Targets belts because of the high amount of armour piercing rounds. These do a lot of damage and can easily shred anything hit with them. However, the second school of thought states one should use Tracer belts because they have the highest chance of setting the enemy on fire, which will typically lead to a fiery destruction of the enemy aircraft. But, there's one thing everyone agrees on: don't use Default belts, as the other available belts have a higher ratio of more damaging AP-T, API, and API-T bullets.

'''Enemies worth mentioning:'''

While flying the P-47M (or any P-47), it is best to be wary of opponents who possess unusually good energy retention/generation characteristics (vertical or otherwise) or tend to have an altitude advantage when entering combat:

-Any fighter of the Yak/La ([[Yak-3 (Family)|Yak-3]], [[Yak-9 (Family)|Yak-9]], [[La-7]], [[La-9]]) family and the [[I-225]] should be dealt with on as unequal terms as possible. Possessing extremely powerful engines on airframes weighing less than half yours, Yaks and La's shine in all aspects of energy fighting, and are also above-average turnfighters to boot. Running is not always an option as their acceleration is also very good. However, their poor structural limits of ~675 kph (420 mph) can be exploited (except for the I-225) to make a diving escape or high-speed pass depending on the scenario.

-The [[Hornet Mk.III|Hornet]], [[Ki-83]], & [[F7F-3|F7F]] have some of the best performance of any prop plane, and they climb far better than you. As all of these get an interceptor airspawn, a possible scenario leveling out at 6,000 meters is seeing one of these two kilometers higher and closing fast. In such a situation, fighting in the vertical can be close to suicidal against such an energy advantage, and a last resort dive is often the only option. However, being heavy fighters, you can actually outturn these in more conventional manner (e.g. the horizontal), and an overshoot can quickly turn the tide in your favor.

-The [[Ta 152 H-1]] & [[G.56]] are pure energy fighters. In the hands of experienced pilots, these long-winged Axis superprops bring a deadly combination of speed, energy retention, and turnfighting to the table. Under no circumstances should you engage one of these at low altitude (<2,000 m), and/or low speed (<500 km/h) as they will make short work of your plane out of its element. Both stiffen in turns at higher speeds, however, and a skilled pilot can utilize the P-47M's excellent manouverability at speed to gain the initiative. Be sure to end the engagement quickly or you will lose energy rapidly.

-The [[Tempest Mk II]] is everything you are below 3,000 meters. As such, engaging with it at low altitude is extremely inadvisable as it produces unrivaled speed for a prop without a supercharger and will outclimb near anything down there as well. It is roughly your equal in manouverability, however, and finding yourself on its six will often end well. The only problem is catching it. Diving from higher altitudes is a tactic that leaves even jets helpless at times, and as such you can apply this to the jet-like Tempest if hunting it is important, but this can leave you open to attack from enemy teammates.

-The [[J2M (Family)|J2M]] family excels at vertical energy fighting and famously hangs until almost 0 kph in a stall, while also possessing above-average climb rates. Should you encounter one, it is best to practice pure BnZ tactics against them. Their comparatively slow top-speed (615 kph for the J2M5) cannot compete with the P-47M in a straight line. However, do not be fooled into climbing early/into a stall, as they can retain that speed very effectively in a climb and get easy shots on you.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Auto control available || Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Separate || Controllable 1 gear || Auto controlled
|-
|}
To get the most performance out of your Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57(C), use 120% mixture from 0 to 7,000 m, 100% mixture from 7,000 to 8,500 m, and 60% mixture above 8,500 m; the turbocharger allows for the richest mix (and the most HP) at almost any altitude you will fight at. The default setting on auto mixture controls is 60%, setting it higher at these altitudes allows you to squeeze some extra horsepower out of the engine, which significantly improves the rate of climb. It is possible to set the oil and engine radiators to 0% and not worry about overheating when not using WEP. However, it is possible to do this ''and'' utilize WEP for the full 13 minutes without overheating ''so long as'' propeller pitch is set to (and does not exceed) 85%. Using auto prop-pitch settings, prolonged WEP usage will overheat the engine. To run WEP for extended periods of time with auto prop-pitch, set the oil radiator to ~15%, and engine radiator from 25% to 50% as needed. It is important to note that you have a limited WEP duration of ~12 minutes. While this is enough to last through most engagements, during prolonged battles it does well to conserve the boost for when it is most needed.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Forgiving aircraft
* Eight deadly .50 cal M2 Brownings
* Great ground-attack ordnance selection
* Unrivalled high altitude performance
* Very good high-speed manoeuvrability, excellent vertical energy retention
* Enemies are often surprised by the enhanced performance of what is usually seen as an easy target
* Good climb rate; can keep up with many fighters at its battle rating, unlike its earlier variants
* Radial engine is good at soaking up damage from the rest of the aircraft
* Airbrakes
* Access to premium bonuses in Silver Lion and Research Points

'''Cons:'''

* Payloads encourage a low-altitude attacker playstyle, playing into P-47M's disadvantages
* Still needs to sideclimb due to higher performance enemies at 5.7
* Sluggish acceleration on the deck as the turbocharger doesn't produce much extra horsepower
* Inadequate performance near the ground means most enemy fighters will be able to catch you
* Bleeds energy very quickly in sharp turns
* Poor low-speed manoeuvrability: a prolonged turnfight almost always ends badly
* Large size and wingspan makes it easier for enemy fighters to score hits on you
* While protective, the engine will typically suffer disproportionately at the cost of keeping the plane intact
* Engine easily catches fire when hit by 13/15/20 mm shells

== History ==


Four P-47D-27 Aircraft were pulled from the production line at the Farmingdale factory and were fitted with the Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57(C) engine. They were also equipped with a larger CH-5 turbo-supercharger allowing the aircraft to reach 2,800 hp at 32,000 feet. Air brakes were also added underneath the wings to aid in deceleration and recovery during dives. These four prototypes were re-designated YP-47M.

The engine installations were eventually added to the last 130 P-47D-30s from Farmingdale in Sept of 1944. They were all re-designated P-47M-1-RE. It is important to note that the under-wing racks were not fitted to this aircraft. It was intended to be strictly a fighter. They were delivered in Dec. of 1944. The dorsal fins were later added as a field modification.

The M-variant saw service with the 56th Fighter Group but problems with the new highly tuned R-2800 delayed their use until the last weeks of the war in Europe. At one point the aircraft was pulled from service and replaced with D variants until the aircraft performed reliably. The P-47M was never used against V-1 flying bombs, its original target.

The P-47M is most remembered for Major George Bostwick's engagements with the [[Me 262 A-1a|Me 262]]. Bostwick shot down a Me 262 on March 25 1945. He was able to damage a second one a few days later on April 7th.

His P-47M-1-RE had the nickname "Ugly Duckling" and a striking paint scheme.

== Media ==


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== See also ==


;Carbon-copy vehicle

* [[Lanovski's P-47M-1-RE]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/3073/current/|[Series] Maj. George Bostwick's P-47 Thunderbolt]]
* [http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/234553-republic-p-47m/ Official WT forum Aircraft Data Sheet section: "Republic P-47M"]

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Bostwick's P-47M-1-RE

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== Description ==

'''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} American fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced as a [[wt:en/news/3071--en|premium pack]] in [[Update 1.49 "Weapons of Victory"]]. It was discontinued after the [[wt:en/news/6694-shop-may-sale-in-war-thunder-en|2020 May sale]], but has since been made available either for purchase in the store or in-game with Golden Eagles {{ge}} for specific American mini-events like the [[wt:en/news/6759/current|2020 "D-Day sale"]], the [[wt:en/news/7344-special-us-air-force-day-en|2021 "US Air Force Day"]], the [[wt:en/news/7875-special-us-air-force-birthday-en|2022 "US Air Force Birthday"]] and, most recently, the [[wt:en/news/8478-special-a-decal-and-two-fighters-to-celebrate-the-us-air-forces-birthday-en|2023 "US Air Force Birthday]]".

The Republic P-47M was the fastest of the production model Thunderbolts. The plane is painted after the camouflage scheme of American pilot George E. Bostwick in the US Army Air Force in the 56th Fighter Group.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
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The P-47M is a high-altitude interceptor that has impressive armament and ordnance that serves it well in both the fighter and Close Air Support role. In Air RB, it is currently unequalled in performance at its battle rating, possessing ridiculous top speed, competitive climb rate, decent energy retention, great armament, and surprising manoeuvrability at speed.

As such, the P-47M is best played to its strengths as a Boom & Zoom and Boom & Run fighter in Air RB. In Ground RB it is an excellent fighter bomber with a good rocket/bomb load-out and .50 cals that can deal with most turret roofs.

The M variant was specifically setup to intercept Germany's buzz-bombs and the new [[Me 262 A-1a|jet]]/[[Me 163 B|rocket]] powered fighters. The primary advantage of this new variant came through speed. The aircraft was powered by either a Pratt & Whitney R-2800-14W or R-2800-5 engine while using the CH-5 turbo-supercharger. The aircraft was able to produce 2,800 hp, giving it higher top speed.

The P-47M has the flight performance of super-props. Top speeds above 5 km exceed literally any opponent besides the [[Ta 152 H-1]] (which is only faster at around 11-12 km). Climb rate is great, at around an average of 23 m/s from 0-6,000 m. WEP is available for up to 12 minutes to maximize engine output.

Interestingly (besides the better engine), the P-47M gets a unique airbrake which makes it very easy to stick behind the tails of opponents in a high-speed dive.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 9,144 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
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! Stock
| 726 || 711 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 25.3 || 26.1 || 10.8 || 10.8 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 794 || 760 || 22.8 || 24.0 || 23.3 || 15.9
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 498 || 469 || 320 || ~13 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 400 || < 420 || < 470 || > 335
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
[[File:P47M Armor Schematic.png|thumb|300px|Armour diagram of the P-47M-1-RE, corresponds to the list on the left]]
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# 9.5 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 38 mm Bulletproof glass - Windscreen
# 9.5 mm Steel - Seat back and headrest armour plates

=== Modifications and economy ===
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== Armaments ==
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=== Offensive armament ===
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{{main|M2 Browning (12.7 mm)}}

'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 8 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (425 rpg = 3,400 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
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{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|HVAR}}

'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==


First of all, the P-47 should always fly fast. No matter the altitude, it is recommended to fly at speeds higher than 520 km/h (~320 mph). One of the few things the P-47 is terrible at doing is prolonged dogfighting. Imagine a truck loaded with cement with wings strapped to the side. Congratulations, you just pictured a P-47 flying at low speeds. Now, with this out of the way you must remember one thing and one thing only, when and where possible, fly high, the higher the better. The higher in altitude the P-47 goes the better the engine performs compared to its potential adversaries. The best altitude for the P-47M is around 9,000 m (~30,000 ft), but it still can perform very good at lower altitudes ranging from 6,000 m (~20,000 ft) to 8,000 m (~26,000 ft). One drawback of the P-47M's engine is that it can easily overheat when using WEP for extended periods of time. However just disabling WEP for few seconds should be enough to cool down the powerful Pratt & Whitney powerplant hidden under the hood. More experienced pilots can utilize Manual Engine Controls (MEC) to eliminate overheating entirely.

=== Combat tactics ===
'''Arcade''' - Much of what was mentioned above can be disregarded due to the adjusted flight model of arcade battles, instead just put your throttle to WEP, climb above your enemies and Boom & Zoom them. It is important to realize that while the P-47 can be the king of the hill, there are a few others which will buck for the spot too including Spitfires, Fw 190s and Bf 109s as they can climb as good as you and they often have cannons which in no time can dismantle a P-47 quickly in flight.

'''Realistic''' - A P-47M's pilot should not take any additional armaments such as bombs and rockets, they will only slow down the plane and make it an easy prey for Bf 109 K-4s, Ta 152s and Fw 190s. As soon as you take off from the airfield, divert 30 degrees to left or right (depends on where the middle of the map is, just don't climb towards the middle), engage WEP and climb at ~17-18 degrees. The best speed for climbing is around ~267 km/h IAS (~165 mph). When you reach an altitude of about 5,500 m (18,000 ft) start to gradually turn towards the middle of the map. Watch out for any enemy planes coming towards you, especially Ta 152s and Bf 109 K-4s which are your biggest threats as they have similar performance output compared to the P-47M. Approaching ~6,000 m, you will notice that climbing at 18 degrees becomes less efficient and is necessary to adjust the angle of attack to 10-15 degrees to maintain the optimal climbing speed. It is also a plausible option to stop climbing at this point since there is a good chance you will already be above everyone. Next, it is recommended to fly level and gain some speed, but not more than 400 km/h IAS (~250 mph) due to the air being thinner (your true airspeed will be very high at this point). In this situation, the P-47 will reign supreme over the skies. Look around you to see if there are any enemy planes spotted, and pick off the easiest targets. Preferably slow-flying fighters which are flying straight or climbing. If you cannot see such targets, position yourself to target those who pose the biggest threat to your aircraft advantageously (such aircraft are outlined at the bottom).

Weighing in at eight tons, the P-47M (and all other P-47s) carries vast inertia through manoeuvers so long as they are gentle and efficient. Above 500 km/h (~310 mph) you will find it is ''initially'' possible to best most fighters in the first or second circles of a sharp turn, but a vast amount of energy is consumed in the process. This can lead to a quick kill (ideally attempted against a foe you know you can outturn), but can rob you of your zooming escape should things go wrong. For this reason, pilots of this aircraft should adhere to quite possibly its biggest strength: fighting in the vertical. Unlike horizontal turnfights, fighting vertically requires substantially more energy as it is dependent on gravity and interia than continuous lift generated by the wings. Horizontal turnfighting thusly plays into the strengths of light aircraft; P-47s are not light aircraft, do not turn horizontally in a P-47M unless you are absolutely certain of the outcome (as you will be committed). However, a skilled pilot does not have to worry this. You will find that light and nimble opponents such as Spitfires or Zeroes succumb to sustained, long, vertical looping due to their inability to carry momentum through stall-fighting. The high straight line top speed and sheer weight of your aircraft even finds one having an energy advantage over an enemy who may be 1-2 km ''higher'' than you are, resulting in a nasty surprise should they try and climb away (though you should always strive to begin with an altitude advantage). Conservation of intertia is key when setting up energy traps in the vertical; you want to give the enemy as little breathing room as possible. As a rule of thumb, try to reach at least 400 km/h (~250 mph) IAS while positioning and do your best to maintain this speed by not turning too sharply, this will make the zoom portion of an attack far more effective. Once adequate separation is achieved, more complex vertical manoeuvers can be used to spring the trap. Spiral climbing can be utilized to great effect against a tailing enemy at an (initially hidden) energy disadvantage. Just remember in this case to turn tight enough so as not to give them a shot at your rear before you come over the top once their energy is exhausted. Smarter foes may dive away, but it is possible to counter this by spiral ''diving'' such that they are "pressed" ever lower by the threat of you turning to get a shot on them. Do not fall for this bait and enter a horizontal turnfight, however. Instead, solely "suggest" such a manoeuver and reposition (ideally through a bout of spiral climbing) until their energy is at such a point where you can execute a proper attack. Ensuring your shots are on target and that enemy energy is depleted is key. You may not be able pull out of a steep dive if you shoot too late or execute too early, resulting in a humiliating crash as your quarry dives towards the ground to avoid you.

Always perform powered dives, and if you feel you're going too fast, just extend the airbrakes long enough to reign in the aircraft's speed. This is one of the biggest advantages of P-47M over the D-series (though the [[P-47D-30 (Italy)|D-30]] also has them) and other comparable prop fighters. When you are finished with the Boom phase of your attack, resist the urge to climb outright. Instead, speed away from the enemies (preferably towards your teammates) while increasing distance between you and anyone tailing. When you gain ~3 km (~2 mi) of separation from enemy planes, you can begin the Zoom part of the tactic. Alternatively, you can remain level and fast if you're feeling that any potential pursuer could catch up to you. Once you are confident this won't happen, climb at 10 degrees and gain enough altitude to ensure that you have an energy advantage above enemy planes. In the most dire situations you can try to go for a head-on attack (only if you have at least 2.5 km separation from the enemy), but it's not recommended to do that as you will most likely damage your engine in the process. In the worst-case scenario, your plane will catch fire and burn up. If you see an enemy fighter which is attempting a diving attack, try and force them to overshoot, call for help and fly towards your closest teammate. You can shrug off a few hits to the fuselage, but anything that touches your wings and elevators will most likely disable or destroy the aircraft's ability to fly well or at all. Flying with friends is also an ideal source of help. Should you be the last on your team, climb as high as possible, look out for enemy fighters, and Boom & Zoom them. Bear in mind that the P-47 does not perform well in 1v2 dogfights; try and separate enemies to pick them off one by one. Bombers are typically a difficult target to go after as they usually soak up quite a bit of ammunition before taking critical damage while leaving you at risk of being set afire or sniped by the defensive gunners. However, the long effective range and shallow drop of the .50 cals makes it possible to attack some bombers from outside their own gunners' effective range.

It's important to remember that the P-47's first and foremost mission is air superiority, especially in the case of the P-47M. Taking bombs and rockets will make your plane even more sluggish than it already is and because of that you will have to fly near the ground, and that typically makes the P-47 easy pickings for other enemy fighters. This is not to say you should never attack ground targets however, and there are certain situations where it is more rewarding (e.g. no enemy fighters left). With a large ammunition pool of 3,400 .50 cal rounds, there will almost certainly be enough left over to wreak substantial havoc on soft targets. It's also important to note that the Ground Targets and Tracers belts are capable of destroying light pillboxes with ~100 rounds. For more flexibility in attacking, it is sometimes beneficial to RTB and take on ordnance, but you should only do this after expending all of your .50 cal ammunition. The two 1,000 lb and 500 lb bombs as well as ten HVAR rockets mean it is possible to engage hard targets such as tanks. Again, it must be remembered that this should only seriously be considered if the relative danger to your aircraft is virtually zero. But if this is the case, it can be very rewarding to the player, as well as help win the game faster.

It is important to mention the two schools of thought regarding the ammunition belts for .50 cals. The first one says that you should use Ground Targets belts because of the high amount of armour piercing rounds. These do a lot of damage and can easily shred anything hit with them. However, the second school of thought states one should use Tracer belts because they have the highest chance of setting the enemy on fire, which will typically leads to a fiery destruction of the enemy aircraft. But, there's one thing everyone agrees on: don't use Default belts, as the other available belts have a higher ratio of more damaging AP-T, API, and API-T bullets.

'''Enemies worth mentioning:'''

While flying the P-47M (or any P-47), it is best to be wary of opponents who possess unusually good energy retention/generation characteristics (vertical or otherwise) or tend to have an altitude advantage when entering combat:

-Any fighter of the Yak/La ([[Yak-3 (Family)|Yak-3]], [[Yak-9 (Family)|Yak-9]], [[La-7]], [[La-9]]) family and the [[I-225]] should be dealt with on as unequal terms as possible. Possessing extremely powerful engines on airframes weighing less than half yours, Yaks and La's shine in all aspects of energy fighting, and are also above-average turnfighters to boot. Running is not always an option as their acceleration is also very good. However, their poor structural limits of ~675 kph (420 mph) can be exploited (except for the I-225) to make a diving escape or high-speed pass depending on the scenario.

-The [[Hornet Mk.III|Hornet]], [[Ki-83]], & [[F7F-3|F7F]] have some of the best performance of any prop plane, and they climb far better than you. As all of these get an interceptor airspawn, a possible scenario leveling out at 6,000 meters is seeing one of these two kilometers higher and closing fast. In such a situation, fighting in the vertical can be close to suicidal against such an energy advantage, and a last resort dive is often the only option. However, being heavy fighters, you can actually outturn these in more conventional manner (e.g. the horizontal), and an overshoot can quickly turn the tide in your favor.

-The [[Ta 152 H-1]] & [[G.56]] are pure energy fighters. In the hands of experienced pilots, these long-winged Axis superprops bring a deadly combination of speed, energy retention, and turnfighting to the table. Under no circumstances should you engage one of these at low altitude (<2,000 m), and/or low speed (<500 km/h) as they will make short work of your plane out of its element. Both stiffen in turns at higher speeds, however, and a skilled pilot can utilize the P-47M's excellent manouverability at speed to gain the initiative. Be sure to end the engagement quickly or you will lose energy rapidly.

-The [[Tempest Mk II]] is everything you are below 3,000 meters. As such, engaging with it at low altitude is extremely inadvisable as it produces unrivaled speed for a prop without a supercharger and will outclimb near anything down there as well. It is roughly your equal in manouverability, however, and finding yourself on its six will often end well. The only problem is catching it. Diving from higher altitudes is a tactic that leaves even jets helpless at times, and as such you can apply this to the jet-like Tempest if hunting it is important, but this can leave you open to attack from enemy teammates.

-The [[J2M (Family)|J2M]] family excels at vertical energy fighting and famously hang until almost 0 kph in a stall, while also possessing above-average climb rates. Should you encounter one, it is best to practice pure BnZ tactics against them. Their comparatively slow top-speed (615 kph for the J2M5) cannot compete with the P-47M in a straight line. However, do not be fooled into climbing early/into a stall, as they can retain that speed very effectively in a climb and get easy shots on you.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Auto control available || Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Separate || Controllable 1 gear || Auto controlled
|-
|}
To get the most performance out of your Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57(C), use 120% mixture from 0 to 7,000 m, 100% mixture from 7,000 to 8,500 m, and 60% mixture above 8,500 m; the turbocharger allows for the richest mix (and the most HP) at almost any altitude you will fight at. The default setting on auto mixture controls is 60%, setting it higher at these altitudes allows you to squeeze some extra horsepower out of the engine, which significantly improves the rate of climb. It is possible to set the oil and engine radiators to 0% and not worry about overheating when not using WEP. However, it is possible to do this ''and'' utilize WEP for the full 13 minutes without overheating ''so long as'' propeller pitch is set to (and does not exceed) 85%. Using auto prop-pitch settings, prolonged WEP usage will overheat the engine. To run WEP for extended periods of time with auto prop-pitch, set the oil radiator to ~15%, and engine radiator from 25% to 50% as needed. It is important to note that you have a limited WEP duration of ~12 minutes. While this is enough to last through most engagements, during prolonged battles it does well to conserve the boost for when it is most needed.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Forgiving aircraft
* Eight deadly .50 cal M2 Brownings
* Great ground-attack ordnance selection
* Unrivalled high altitude performance
* Very good high-speed manoeuvrability, excellent vertical energy retention
* Enemies are often surprised by the enhanced performance of what is usually seen as an easy target
* Good climb rate; can keep up with many fighters at its battle rating, unlike its earlier variants
* Radial engine is good at soaking up damage from the rest of the aircraft
* Airbrakes
* Access to premium bonuses in Silver Lion and Research Points

'''Cons:'''

* Payloads encourage a low-altitude attacker playstyle, playing into P-47M's disadvantages
* Still needs to sideclimb due to higher performance enemies at 5.7
* Sluggish acceleration on the deck as the turbocharger doesn't produce much extra horsepower
* Inadequate performance near the ground means most enemy fighters will be able to catch you
* Bleeds energy very quickly in sharp turns
* Poor low-speed manoeuvrability: a prolonged turnfight almost always ends badly
* Large size and wingspan makes it easier for enemy fighters to score hits on you
* While protective, the engine will typically suffer disproportionately at the cost of keeping the plane intact
* Engine easily catches fire when hit by 13/15/20 mm shells

== History ==


Four P-47D-27 Aircraft were pulled from the production line at the Farmingdale factory and were fitted with the Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57(C) engine. They were also equipped with a larger CH-5 turbo-supercharger allowing the aircraft to reach 2,800 hp at 32,000 feet. Air brakes were also added underneath the wings to aid in deceleration and recovery during dives. These four prototypes were re-designated YP-47M.

The engine installations were eventually added to the last 130 P-47D-30s from Farmingdale in Sept of 1944. They were all re-designated P-47M-1-RE. It is important to note that the under-wing racks were not fitted to this aircraft. It was intended to be strictly a fighter. They were delivered in Dec. of 1944. The dorsal fins were later added as a field modification.

The M-variant saw service with the 56th Fighter Group but problems with the new highly tuned R-2800 delayed their use until the last weeks of the war in Europe. At one point the aircraft was pulled from service and replaced with D variants until the aircraft performed reliably. The P-47M was never used against V-1 flying bombs, its original target.

The P-47M is most remembered for Major George Bostwick's engagements with the [[Me 262 A-1a|Me 262]]. Bostwick shot down a Me 262 on March 25 1945. He was able to damage a second one a few days later on April 7th.

His P-47M-1-RE had the nickname "Ugly Duckling" and a striking paint scheme.

== Media ==


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== See also ==


;Carbon-copy vehicle

* [[Lanovski's P-47M-1-RE]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/3073/current/|[Series] Maj. George Bostwick's P-47 Thunderbolt]]
* [http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/234553-republic-p-47m/ Official WT forum Aircraft Data Sheet section: "Republic P-47M"]

{{AirManufacturer Republic}}
{{USA fighters}}
{{USA premium aircraft}}

Bostwick's P-47M-1-RE

2022-04-07T11:22:08Z

U70267797: Improvements to grammar, slight fixes in ideal MEC settings

{{About
| about = gift American fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = P-47 (Family)
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== Description ==

'''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} American fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced as a [[wt:en/news/3071--en|premium pack]] in [[Update 1.49 "Weapons of Victory"]]. It was discontinued after the [[wt:en/news/6694-shop-may-sale-in-war-thunder-en|2020 May sale]], but has since been made available either for purchase in the store or in-game with Golden Eagles {{ge}} for specific American mini-events like the [[wt:en/news/6759/current|2020 D-Day sale]] and the [[wt:en/news/7344-special-us-air-force-day-en|2021 US Air Force Day]].

The Republic P-47M was the fastest of the production model Thunderbolts. The plane is painted after the camouflage scheme of American pilot George E. Bostwick in the US Army Air Force in the 56th Fighter Group.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


The P-47M is a high-altitude interceptor that has impressive armament and ordnance that serves it well in both the fighter and Close Air Support role. In Air RB, it is currently unequalled in performance at its battle rating, possessing ridiculous top speed, competitive climb rate, decent energy retention, great armament, and surprising manoeuvrability at speed.

As such, the P-47M is best played to its strengths as a Boom & Zoom and Boom & Run fighter in Air RB. In Ground RB it is an excellent fighter bomber with a good rocket/bomb load-out and .50 cals that can deal with most turret roofs.

The M variant was specifically setup to intercept Germany's buzz-bombs and the new [[Me 262 A-1a|jet]]/[[Me 163 B|rocket]] powered fighters. The primary advantage of this new variant came through speed. The aircraft was powered by either a Pratt & Whitney R-2800-14W or R-2800-5 engine while using the CH-5 turbo-supercharger. The aircraft was able to produce 2,800 hp, giving it higher top speed.

The P-47M has the flight performance of super-props. Top speeds above 5 km exceed literally any opponent besides the [[Ta 152 H-1]] (which is only faster at around 11-12 km). Climb rate is great, at around an average of 23 m/s from 0-6,000 m. WEP is available for up to 12 minutes to maximize engine output.

Interestingly (besides the better engine), the P-47M gets a unique airbrake which makes it very easy to stick behind the tails of opponents in a high-speed dive.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 9,144 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 726 || 711 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 25.3 || 26.1 || 10.8 || 10.8 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 794 || 760 || 22.8 || 24.0 || 23.3 || 15.9
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 498 || 469 || 320 || ~13 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 400 || < 420 || < 470 || > 335
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
[[File:P47M Armor Schematic.png|thumb|300px|Armour diagram of the P-47M-1-RE, corresponds to the list on the left]]
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


# 9.5 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 38 mm Bulletproof glass - Windscreen
# 9.5 mm Steel - Seat back and headrest armour plates

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|M2 Browning (12.7 mm)}}

'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 8 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (425 rpg = 3,400 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|HVAR}}

'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==


First of all, the P-47 should always fly fast. No matter the altitude, it is recommended to fly at speeds higher than 520 km/h (~320 mph). One of the few things the P-47 is terrible at doing is prolonged dogfighting. Imagine a truck loaded with cement with wings strapped to the side. Congratulations, you just pictured a P-47 flying at low speeds. Now, with this out of the way you must remember one thing and one thing only, when and where possible, fly high, the higher the better. The higher in altitude the P-47 goes the better the engine performs compared to its potential adversaries. The best altitude for the P-47M is around 9,000 m (~30,000 ft), but it still can perform very good at lower altitudes ranging from 6,000 m (~20,000 ft) to 8,000 m (~26,000 ft). One drawback of the P-47M's engine is that it can easily overheat when using WEP for extended periods of time, however just disabling WEP for few seconds should be enough to cool down the powerful Pratt & Whitney powerplant hidden under the hood.

=== Combat tactics ===
'''Arcade:''' Much of what was mentioned above can be disregarded due to the adjusted flight model of arcade battles, instead just put your throttle to WEP, climb above your enemies and Boom & Zoom them. It is important to realize that while the P-47 can be the king of the hill, there are a few others which will buck for the spot too including Spitfires, Fw 190s and Bf 109s as they can climb as good as you and they often have cannons which in no time can dismantle a P-47 quickly in flight.

'''Realistic:''' A P-47M's pilot should not take any additional armaments such as bombs and rockets, they will only slow down the plane and make it an easy prey for Bf 109 K-4s, Ta 152s and Fw 190s. As soon as you take off from the airfield, divert 30 degrees to left or right (depends on where the middle of the map is, just don't climb towards the middle), engage WEP and climb at ~17-18 degrees. The best speed for climbing is around ~267 km/h IAS (~165 mph). When you reach an altitude of about 5,500 m (18,000 ft) start to gradually turn towards the middle of the map. Watch out for any enemy planes coming towards you, especially Ta 152s and Bf 109 K-4s which are your biggest threats as they have similar performance output compared to the P-47M. Approaching ~6,000 m, you will notice that climbing at 18 degrees becomes less efficient and is necessary to adjust the angle of attack to 10-15 degrees to maintain the optimal climbing speed. It is also a plausible option to stop climbing at this point since there is a good chance you will already be above everyone. Next, it is recommended to fly level and gain some speed, but not more than 400 km/h IAS (~250 mph) due to the air being thinner (your true airspeed will be very high at this point). In this situation, the P-47 will reign supreme over the skies. Look around you to see if there are any enemy planes spotted, and pick off the easiest targets. Preferably slow-flying fighters which are flying straight or climbing. If you cannot see such targets go for other fighters, 109s, 152s, and G.55s are your priority targets, as they can easily kill you if you are not careful.

Always perform powered dives, and if you feel you're going too fast, just extend the airbrakes long enough to reign in the aircraft's speed. This is one of the biggest advantages of P-47M over the D-series and other comparable prop fighters. When you are finished with the Boom phase of your attack, resist the urge to climb outright. Instead, speed away from the enemies (preferably towards your teammates) while increasing distance between you and anyone tailing. When you gain ~3 km (~2 mi) of separation from enemy planes, you can begin the Zoom part of the tactic. Alternatively, you can remain level and fast if you're feeling that any potential pursuer could catch up to you. Once you are confident this won't happen, climb at 10 degrees and gain enough altitude to ensure that you have an energy advantage above enemy planes. In the most dire situations you can try to go for a head-on attack (only if you have at least 2.5 km separation from the enemy), but it's not recommended to do that as you will most likely damage your engine in the process. In the worst-case scenario, your plane will catch fire and burn up. If you see an enemy fighter which is attempting a diving attack, try and force them to overshoot, call for help and fly towards your closest teammate. You can shrug off a few hits to the fuselage, but anything that touches your wings and elevators will most likely disable or destroy the aircraft's ability to fly well or at all. Flying with friends also helps as you can quickly call them to assist you. If you're the only one left on your team you should climb, look out for enemy fighters, and Boom & Zoom them. Just keep in mind that P-47 is not the best plane to do 1 vs 2 dogfights in, so try to separate enemies and pick them off one by one. Bombers are typically a difficult target to go after as they usually soak up quite a bit of ammunition before taking critical damage and you risk being set afire or sniped by the defensive gunners. However, the long effective range and shallow drop of the .50 cals makes it possible to attack some bombers from outside their own gunners' effective range.

It's important to remember that the P-47's first and foremost mission is air superiority, especially in the case of the P-47M. Taking bombs and rockets will make your plane even more sluggish than it already is and because of that you will have to fly near the ground, and that typically makes the P-47 easy pickings for other enemy fighters. This is not to say you should never attack ground targets however, and there are certain situations where it is more rewarding (e.g. no enemy fighters left). With a large ammunition pool of 3,400 .50 cal rounds, there will almost certainly be enough left over to wreak substantial havoc on soft targets. It's also important to note that the Ground Targets and Tracers belts are capable of destroying light pillboxes with ~100 rounds. For more flexibility in attacking, it is sometimes beneficial to RTB and take on ordnance, but you should only do this after expending all of your .50 cal ammunition. The two 1,000 lb and 500 lb bombs as well as ten HVAR rockets mean it is possible to engage hard targets such as tanks. Again, it must be remembered that this should only seriously be considered if the relative danger to your aircraft is virtually zero. But if this is the case, it can be very rewarding to the player, as well as help win the game faster.

It is important to mention the two schools of thought regarding the ammunition belts for .50 cals. The first one says that you should use Ground Targets belts because of the high amount of armour piercing rounds. These do a lot of damage and can easily shred anything hit with them. However, the second school of thought states one should use Tracer belts because they have the highest chance of setting the enemy on fire, which will typically leads to a fiery destruction of the enemy aircraft. But, there's one thing everyone agrees on: don't use Default belts, as the other available belts have a higher ratio of more damaging AP-T, API, and API-T bullets.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Auto control available || Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Separate || Controllable 1 gear || Auto controlled
|-
|}
To get the most performance out of your Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57(C), use 120% mixture from 0 to 2,000 m, 100% mixture from 2,000 to 4,000 m, and 80% mixture above 4,000 m. The default setting on auto mixture controls is 60%, setting it higher at lower altitudes allows you to squeeze some extra horsepower out of the engine, which significantly improves the rate of climb. It is possible to set the oil and engine radiators to 0% and not worry about overheating when not using WEP. However, prolonged WEP usage will overheat the engine in this state, and it should only be used when maximum power is absolutely necessary. To run WEP for extended periods of time, set the oil radiator to ~20%, and engine radiator from 25% to 50% as needed. It is important to note that you have a limited WEP duration of ~15 minutes. While this is enough to last through most engagements, during prolonged battles it does well to conserve the boost for when it is most needed.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Forgiving aircraft
* Eight deadly .50 cal M2 Brownings
* Great ground-attack ordnance selection
* Unrivalled high altitude performance
* Very good high-speed manoeuvrability
* Enemies are often surprised by the enhanced performance of what is usually seen as an easy target
* Good climb rate; can keep up with many fighters at its battle rating, unlike its earlier variants
* Airbrakes
* Radial engine is good at soaking up damage from the rest of the aircraft
* Access to premium bonuses in Silver Lion and Research Points

'''Cons:'''

* Payloads encourage a low-altitude attacker playstyle, playing into P-47M's disadvantages
* Sluggish acceleration on the deck as the turbocharger doesn't produce much extra horsepower
* This inadequate top speed near the ground means most enemy fighters will be able to catch you
* Poor low-speed manoeuvrability: a prolonged turnfight almost always ends badly
* Large size and wingspan makes it easier for enemy fighters to score hits on you
* While protective, the engine will typically suffer disproportionately at the cost of keeping the plane intact
* Engine easily catches fire when hit by 13/15/20 mm shells

== History ==


Four P-47D-27 Aircraft were pulled from the production line at the Farmingdale factory and were fitted with the Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57(C) engine. They were also equipped with a larger CH-5 turbo-supercharger allowing the aircraft to reach 2,800 hp at 32,000 feet. Air brakes were also added underneath the wings to aid in deceleration and recovery during dives. These four prototypes were re-designated YP-47M.

The engine installations were eventually added to the last 130 P-47D-30s from Farmingdale in Sept of 1944. They were all re-designated P-47M-1-RE. It is important to note that the under-wing racks were not fitted to this aircraft. It was intended to be strictly a fighter. They were delivered in Dec. of 1944. The dorsal fins were later added as a field modification.

The M-variant saw service with the 56th Fighter Group but problems with the new highly tuned R-2800 delayed their use until the last weeks of the war in Europe. At one point the aircraft was pulled from service and replaced with D variants until the aircraft performed reliably. The P-47M was never used against V-1 flying bombs, its original target.

The P-47M is most remembered for Major George Bostwick's engagements with the [[Me 262 A-1a|Me 262]]. Bostwick shot down a Me 262 on March 25 1945. He was able to damage a second one a few days later on April 7th.

His P-47M-1-RE had the nickname "Ugly Duckling" and a striking paint scheme.

== Media ==


;Skins

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;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|RO11u_Vim1I|'''Premium Review: {{PAGENAME}} [Jug is Love - Jug is Life]''' - ''Jengar''|tVzOxJBcTj8|'''{{PAGENAME}} - 5 Kills In 3 Minutes And Dominating Italians''' - ''Napalmratte''}}

== See also ==


;Carbon-copy vehicle

* [[Lanovski's P-47M-1-RE]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/3073/current/|[Series] Maj. George Bostwick's P-47 Thunderbolt]]
* [http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/234553-republic-p-47m/ Official WT forum Aircraft Data Sheet section: "Republic P-47M"]

{{AirManufacturer Republic}}
{{USA fighters}}
{{USA premium aircraft}}

ITP (M-1)

2021-10-22T19:46:35Z

U70267797: Fixed grammatical error

{{Specs-Card
|code=itp_m1
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
|market=items_ITP (M-1) (USSR)
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update "Hot Tracks"]] as a reward for [[Battle Pass: Season II, "Steel Centurion"]].

"ITP" is an acronym in Russian for "heavy cannon fighter", and that is an accurate description of the ITP (M-1). As a prototype fighter from the Polikarpov design bureau, the ITP looks something like a crossing between the [[MiG-3 (Family)|MiG-3]] and [[I-185 (M-82)|I-185]]. Much like the famous [[Yak-9T]], the ITP has a powerful 37 mm cannon mounted in the propeller hub. Two additional nose-mounted 20 mm ShVAK cannons with a generous ammo supply round out its internal armament. The good flight performance allows pilots with sharp aim to swiftly tear their targets apart. The ITP is a great option for both air and mixed battles, suited for punching holes in tanks, shredding bombers, and tangling with enemy fighters. Few Soviet aircraft can boast this versatility.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 6,100 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 658 || 639 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.9 || 22.6 || 12.6 || 12.4 || rowspan="2" | 395
|-
! Upgraded
| 695 || 676 || 20.2 || 21.0 || 17.8 || 15.1
|-
|}

The ITP (M-1) is a fairly good all-rounder but has a number of quirks. The top speed appears impressive on the statcard, with 676 km/h at 6,100 m in Realistic Battles practically matching the [[I-185 (M-71)]] a whole battle rating above it, but most engagements will not occur that high and that speed is not practically achievable. It cannot sustain more than about 520 km/h at sea level, having to rely on its good horizontal energy retention to catch up with its targets at low altitudes. The climb rate is good. The turn rate is decent and the ITP will retain energy in turns quite well at medium speeds but suffer somewhat in low speed engagements. It has noticeable control surface compression above 500-600 km/h IAS in terms of roll rate and rudder control, but the elevator thankfully remains quite responsive; the ITP will have an easier time pulling out of a dive than any [[La-5 (Family)|La-5]].

One of the main sources of annoyance when flying the ITP (M-1) is its temperamental AM-37P engine. Soviet inline engines are not known for being easygoing to begin with, but the AM-37P is particularly prone to overheating, especially at lower altitudes. When using automatic engine control, it will begin overheating when left at 100% throttle and using WEP drives the temperature gauge into orange and often even red zones. The propeller pitch is adjustable but increasing it above 70% will cause overspeed warnings to show up and is generally not recommended. Using MEC is highly recommended to help manage the engine temperatures. To best take advantage of engine performance with MEC, keep the propeller pitch at 70% and both radiators at 100%. This will drastically prolong the time your engine stays at healthy temperatures, and allows for far more liberal usage of WEP. For colder maps, closing the radiators at 75-50% is possible. Mixture should be set to 120% from sea level to 6,000 m. The minimum fuel load of the ITP (M-1) exceeds the match time for air AB and RB battles, and the enriched mixture gives a substantial performance boost. Only when above 6,000 m should the mixture be lowered to 60%, as it starts hindering the performance of the aircraft.

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 365 || 345 || 260 || ~13 || ~6
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 320 || < 250 || < 500 || > 320
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
[[File:ITP (M-1) armor schematic.png|thumb|300px|ITP (M-1) armour diagram]]


;Armour plates

# 13 mm Steel - Rear pilot armour

Despite being heavily armed, the ITP (M-1) is hardly armoured, which is something of a trend for Polikarpov aircraft. The rear protection protects the pilot from being knocked out by rifle-calibre machine guns but is insufficient against heavy machine guns and cannons. There is no bulletproof glass in the cockpit canopy, so head-on engagements are risky, but the pilot sits rather low in the fuselage and presents a small target. Getting hit anywhere is a bad idea since the cooling systems are distributed throughout the nose and wing roots and the engine cannot tolerate much abuse. The wing-mounted fuel tanks can be ignited by enemy fire during turning engagements. However, the wing tanks and the central tanks are self-sealing (1 in each wing, 1 under the pilot abd 1 under the 37 mm cannon breech).

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|SH-37 (37 mm)|ShVAK (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 37 mm SH-37 cannon, nose-mounted (50 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm ShVAK cannons, nose-mounted (200 rpg = 400 total)

Trigger discipline heavily rewards the ITP, spraying should only be done when in doubt or necessity, as it only can count on 50 rounds for the 37 mm cannon and 2 x 200 rounds for both 20 mm cannons. Still, a burst of its armament will deal significant damage, as the 37 mm is coupled with two 20 mm ShVAK cannons, nose-mounted as well. While it performs best within ranges under 1 km from its target, its nose-mounted armaments will limit the dispersion cone. Taking the Default belt is a compromise allowing to use the cannon for any target and fill a multirole approach on the battlefield.

;SH-37

Only one HEI-T 37 mm round has to land on the enemy plane to cause significant damage, mostly instant fire or even ripping off a wing/the tail. While the Default ammunition belt is armed with both HEI-T (High-explosive Incendiary Tracer, Self Destroying- meant for air targets) and API-T (Armour-Piercing Incendiary Tracer- meant for ground, armoured targets), one can instead choose to focus on one playstyle by changing belts for the cannon: one being composed entirely of HEI-T (meaning that the ITP loses most of its capability to destroy "hard" targets, such as Medium and Light tanks, without taking any ordnance) and the other being composed entirely of API-T, meaning that shots landed on aircraft will not include the firepower of the high-explosive round. The API-T rounds are still good against aircraft, as a good shot can detonate fuel tanks, knock out engines, or tear off flight surfaces, but they might overpenetrate and pass through with minimal damage on occasion.

;ShVAK

Twin ShVAKs are common armaments for the Lavochkin fighters and they do not act any differently on the ITP (M-1). They are accurate and shoot quickly but are not very powerful. They are still important to utilize since the Sh-37 does not have a high volume of fire and smaller aircraft may be able to dodge the shots easily. The Default belt works fine against aircraft, combining an equal mix of AP-I rounds for damaging modules and igniting fuel tanks and FI-T rounds for help with aiming and applying some light explosive damage. For ground pounding, the Armoured Targets belt has a greater proportion of AP-I rounds and is capable of penetrating the turret roofs of certain vehicles. Either will do fine against open-topped vehicles. Avoid belts containing HEF rounds, as they do very little damage.

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|FAB-50sv (50 kg)|FAB-100sv (100 kg)|RBS-82|RS-82}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 2 x 100 kg FAB-100sv bombs (200 kg total)
* 4 x 50 kg FAB-50sv bombs (200 kg total)
* 8 x RS-82 rockets
* 8 x RBS-82 rockets

The ITP (M-1) has a decent selection of suspended ordnance for a Soviet single-engine fighter. The twin 100 kg bombs are generally the best option for Ground RB, as they are dropped individually and are large enough to destroy armoured targets if delivered with good accuracy. Dropping them next to or on top of enemies may require some practice since they are mounted on the wings.

The rockets are more situational. The RS-82 rockets are not very useful against ground targets since they only have small high explosive warheads. The RBS-82 rockets are very similar but have a delayed fuse allowing them to penetrate armour. A successful penetration will usually destroy a tank in one hit, but this can be difficult to accomplish since they have a low velocity and are not very accurate.

== Usage in battles ==

The ITP (M-1) is capable of fulfilling different roles on the battlefield: thanks to its nose-mounted armament, it can perform aircraft interception while also having the potential for ground attack. In aerial combat, the ITP shines at quickly disposing of enemy aircraft, relying on Boom & Run tactics in engagements. Its 37 mm cannon is what makes it so deadly: any shots landed onto any enemy plane will, most of the time, cripple it, if not outright destroy it.

The ITP is not a head-on opportunistic fighter: rather, it relies on planned Boom and Run passes, by attacking enemy fighters that are in a lower energy state, or by swooping in and destroying distracted enemies engaged in turnfight. Use of WEP should, just as its ammunition management, be limited towards maintaining speed after pulling out of a dive or a quick boost, as continuous use will quickly overheat the engine. Avoid turnfighting as the aircraft loses a considerable amount of speed in any sort of vertical manoeuvres. Rather than entering a turnfight, the ITP must maintain a high speed to quickly get away from dedicated turnfighting aircraft such as the Japanese [[Ki-43-III otsu]], a common enemy at its BR, then climb again and plan another Boom and Run pass.

When focusing entirely on a ground attack role, the ITP performs best as a dive-attacker, rather than a low-flying approach, as altitude and speed are the ITP's guarantee to survive enemy fighters tailing it.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Controllable || Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Separate || Not controllable 1 gear || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Powerful armament can destroy large targets with just a quick burst
* Fairly manoeuvrable at higher speeds
* Versatile 37 mm cannon can load Armoured targets belts, capable of penetrating up to 60 mm of armour
* Can carry bombs and rockets, allowing it to play a CAS role in ground battles
* Great climb rate, can manage 30 degrees climb with WEP
* Powerful engine, can outrun most aircraft at its BR (<5,000 m)
* Large ammo count for the 37 mm cannon

'''Cons:'''

* Catches fire easily if damaged (liquid cooling system and fuel are located in the wings)
* The pilot is poorly protected
* Acceleration isn't very good compared to other aircraft at a similar BR
* Engine is prone to overheating
* Minimum fuel load is 30 minutes, weighing down the aircraft and reducing the manoeuvrability
* 37 mm cannon can be inaccurate if fired in prolonged bursts

== History ==

=== [[wt:en/news/7061-development-battle-pass-vehicles-itp-m-1-en|Devblog]] ===
At the end of 1940, the aircraft designer Nikolai Polikarpov came up with the initiative to create a fundamentally new combat aircraft for Soviet aviation - a fighter with heavy cannon armament, that could fulfill tasks typical for heavy fighters and attack aircraft, while possessing the flight characteristics of a light single-engine monoplane fighter. The military accepted Polikarpov's idea with interest, formulating tasks for the future aircraft, such as effective air combat, including the destruction of bombers, aerial destruction of tanks and armoured vehicles, as well as escort missions. The assembly of the first prototype began in May of 1941, however, due to the rapid offensive from the enemy towards Moscow, production had to be evacuated to Novosibirsk, Siberia, where the test unit was completed.

ITP (M-1) (ITP is for "heavy cannon fighter") was a monoplane fighter with a 1,650 hp M-107P engine, the armament of the aircraft consisted of a 37mm Sh-37 motor-mounted gun and a pair of 20mm ShVAK cannons. Flight tests began in February 1942, but were not fully completed due to engine problems. A little later, versions with the M-107A and the AM-37 engines were tested, on the second prototype, the 37mm cannon was replaced with another ShVAK cannon. Work on the ITP project was interrupted due to the untimely death of the Soviet "king of fighters" in 1944.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=itp_m1 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Images
<gallery mode="packed" heights="175">
File:ITP (M-1) WTWallpaper 01.jpg|
File:ITP (M-1) WTWallpaper 02.jpg|
File:ITP (M-1) WTWallpaper 03.jpg|
</gallery>

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|9ffyPCaxp9k|'''Battle Pass Vehicles''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 03:20 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|57j2HIxn7qk|'''ITP (M-1) Seal Clubbing Review''' - ''Dimitri_Rudov''|1tNEooOmoQg|'''The BEAST Within! ITP (M-1)! - USSR - Premium Review!''' - ''Jengar''}}

== See also ==


* [[Yak-9T]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7061-development-battle-pass-vehicles-itp-m-1-en|[Devblog] Battle Pass vehicles: ITP (M-1)]]

{{AirManufacturer Polikarpov}}
{{USSR fighters}}
{{USSR premium aircraft}}

ITP (M-1)

2021-10-22T03:11:38Z

U70267797: Added armour diagram and MEC control details

{{Specs-Card
|code=itp_m1
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
|market=items_ITP (M-1) (USSR)
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update "Hot Tracks"]] as a reward for [[Battle Pass: Season II, "Steel Centurion"]].

"ITP" is an acronym in Russian for "heavy cannon fighter", and that is an accurate description of the ITP (M-1). As a prototype fighter from the Polikarpov design bureau, the ITP looks something like a crossing between the [[MiG-3 (Family)|MiG-3]] and [[I-185 (M-82)|I-185]]. Much like the famous [[Yak-9T]], the ITP has a powerful 37 mm cannon mounted in the propeller hub. Two additional nose-mounted 20 mm ShVAK cannons with a generous ammo supply round out its internal armament. The good flight performance allows pilots with sharp aim to swiftly tear their targets apart. The ITP is a great option for both air and mixed battles, suited for punching holes in tanks, shredding bombers, and tangling with enemy fighters. Few Soviet aircraft can boast this versatility.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 6,100 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 658 || 639 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.9 || 22.6 || 12.6 || 12.4 || rowspan="2" | 395
|-
! Upgraded
| 695 || 676 || 20.2 || 21.0 || 17.8 || 15.1
|-
|}

The ITP (M-1) is a fairly good all-rounder but has a number of quirks. The top speed appears impressive on the statcard, with 676 km/h at 6,100 m in Realistic Battles practically matching the [[I-185 (M-71)]] a whole battle rating above it, but most engagements will not occur that high and that speed is not practically achievable. It cannot sustain more than about 520 km/h at sea level, having to rely on its good horizontal energy retention to catch up with its targets at low altitudes. The climb rate is good. The turn rate is decent and the ITP will retain energy in turns quite well at medium speeds but suffer somewhat in low speed engagements. It has noticeable control surface compression above 500-600 km/h IAS in terms of roll rate and rudder control, but the elevator thankfully remains quite responsive; the ITP will have an easier time pulling out of a dive than any [[La-5 (Family)|La-5]].

One of the main sources of annoyance when flying the ITP (M-1) is its temperamental AM-37P engine. Soviet inline engines are not known for being easygoing to begin with, but the AM-37P is particularly prone to overheating, especially at lower altitudes. When using automatic engine control, it will begin overheating when left at 100% throttle and using WEP drives the temperature gauge into orange and often even red zones. The propeller pitch is adjustable but increasing it above 70% will cause overspeed warnings to show up and is generally not recommended. Using MEC is highly recommended to help manage the engine temperatures. To best take advantage of engine performance with MEC, keep prop pitch at 70% and both radiators at 100%. This will drastically prolong the time your engine stays at healthy temperatures, and allows for far more liberal usage of WEP. For colder maps, closing the radiators to 75-50% is possible. Mixture should be set to 120% from sea level to 6,000 meters. The minimum fuel load of the ITP exceeds the match time for air AB and RB battles, and the enriched mixture gives a substantial performance boost. Only when above 6,000 meters should mixture be lowered to 60%, as it starts hindering the performance of the aircraft.

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 365 || 345 || 260 || ~13 || ~6
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 320 || < 250 || < 500 || > 320
|-
|}

[[File:ITP.png|thumb|465x465px|ITP (M-1) Armour Diagram]]

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


* 13 mm Steel - Rear pilot armour

Despite being heavily armed, the ITP (M-1) is hardly armoured, which is something of a trend for Polikarpov aircraft. The rear protection protects the pilot from being knocked out by rifle-calibre machine guns but is insufficient against heavy machine guns and cannons. There is no bulletproof glass in the cockpit canopy, so head-on engagements are risky, but the pilot sits rather low in the fuselage and presents a small target. Getting hit anywhere is a bad idea since the cooling systems are distributed throughout the nose and wing roots and the engine cannot tolerate much abuse. The wing-mounted fuel tanks can be ignited by enemy fire during turning engagements. However, both the wing and the central tanks are self-sealing.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|SH-37 (37 mm)|ShVAK (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 37 mm SH-37 cannon, nose-mounted (50 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm ShVAK cannons, nose-mounted (200 rpg = 400 total)

Trigger discipline heavily rewards the ITP, spraying should only be done when in doubt or necessity, as it only can count on 50 rounds for the 37 mm cannon and 2 x 200 rounds for both 20 mm cannons. Still, a burst of its armament will deal significant damage, as the 37 mm is coupled with two 20 mm ShVAK cannons, nose-mounted as well. While it performs best within ranges under 1 km from its target, its nose-mounted armaments will limit the dispersion cone. Taking the Default belt is a compromise allowing to use the cannon for any target and fill a multirole approach on the battlefield.

;SH-37

Only one HEI-T 37 mm round has to land on the enemy plane to cause significant damage, mostly instant fire or even ripping off a wing/the tail. While the Default ammunition belt is armed with both HEI-T (High-explosive Incendiary Tracer, Self Destroying- meant for air targets) and API-T (Armour-Piercing Incendiary Tracer- meant for ground, armoured targets), one can instead choose to focus on one playstyle by changing belts for the cannon: one being composed entirely of HEI-T (meaning that the ITP loses most of its capability to destroy "hard" targets, such as Medium and Light tanks, without taking any ordnance) and the other being composed entirely of API-T, meaning that shots landed on aircraft will not include the firepower of the high-explosive round. The API-T rounds are still good against aircraft, as a good shot can detonate fuel tanks, knock out engines, or tear off flight surfaces, but they might overpenetrate and pass through with minimal damage on occasion.

;ShVAK

Twin ShVAKs are common armaments for the Lavochkin fighters and they do not act any differently on the ITP (M-1). They are accurate and shoot quickly but are not very powerful. They are still important to utilize since the Sh-37 does not have a high volume of fire and smaller aircraft may be able to dodge the shots easily. The Default belt works fine against aircraft, combining an equal mix of AP-I rounds for damaging modules and igniting fuel tanks and FI-T rounds for help with aiming and applying some light explosive damage. For ground pounding, the Armoured Targets belt has a greater proportion of AP-I rounds and is capable of penetrating the turret roofs of certain vehicles. Either will do fine against open-topped vehicles. Avoid belts containing HEF rounds, as they do very little damage.

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|FAB-50sv (50 kg)|FAB-100sv (100 kg)|RBS-82|RS-82}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 2 x 100 kg FAB-100sv bombs (200 kg total)
* 4 x 50 kg FAB-50sv bombs (200 kg total)
* 8 x RS-82 rockets
* 8 x RBS-82 rockets

The ITP (M-1) has a decent selection of suspended ordnance for a Soviet single-engine fighter. The twin 100 kg bombs are generally the best option for Ground RB, as they are dropped individually and are large enough to destroy armoured targets if delivered with good accuracy. Dropping them next to or on top of enemies may require some practice since they are mounted on the wings.

The rockets are more situational. The RS-82 rockets are not very useful against ground targets since they only have small high explosive warheads. The RBS-82 rockets are very similar but have a delayed fuse allowing them to penetrate armour. A successful penetration will usually destroy a tank in one hit, but this can be difficult to accomplish since they have a low velocity and are not very accurate.

== Usage in battles ==

The ITP (M-1) is capable of fulfilling different roles on the battlefield: thanks to its nose-mounted armament, it can perform aircraft interception while also having the potential for ground attack. In aerial combat, the ITP shines at quickly disposing of enemy aircraft, relying on Boom & Run tactics in engagements. Its 37 mm cannon is what makes it so deadly: any shots landed onto any enemy plane will, most of the time, cripple it, if not outright destroy it.

The ITP is not a head-on opportunistic fighter: rather, it relies on planned Boom and Run passes, by attacking enemy fighters that are in a lower energy state, or by swooping in and destroying distracted enemies engaged in turnfight. Use of WEP should, just as its ammunition management, be limited towards maintaining speed after pulling out of a dive or a quick boost, as continuous use will quickly overheat the engine. Avoid turnfighting as the aircraft loses a considerable amount of speed in any sort of vertical manoeuvres. Rather than entering a turnfight, the ITP must maintain a high speed to quickly get away from dedicated turnfighting aircraft such as the Japanese [[Ki-43-III otsu]], a common enemy at its BR, then climb again and plan another Boom and Run pass.

When focusing entirely on a ground attack role, the ITP performs best as a dive-attacker, rather than a low-flying approach, as altitude and speed are the ITP's guarantee to survive enemy fighters tailing it.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Controllable || Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Separate || Not controllable 1 gear || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Powerful armament can destroy large targets with just a quick burst
* Fairly manoeuvrable at higher speeds
* Versatile 37 mm cannon can load Armoured targets belts, capable of penetrating up to 60 mm of armour
* Can carry bombs and rockets, allowing it to play a CAS role in ground battles
* Great climb rate, can manage 30 degrees climb with WEP
* Powerful engine, can outrun most aircraft at its BR (<5,000 m)
* Large ammo count for the 37 mm cannon

'''Cons:'''

* Catches fire easily if damaged (liquid cooling system and fuel are located in the wings)
* The pilot is poorly protected
* Acceleration isn't very good compared to other aircraft at a similar BR
* Engine is prone to overheating
* Minimum fuel load is 30 minutes, weighing down the aircraft and reducing the manoeuvrability
* 37 mm cannon can be inaccurate if fired in prolonged bursts

== History ==

=== [[wt:en/news/7061-development-battle-pass-vehicles-itp-m-1-en|Devblog]] ===
At the end of 1940, the aircraft designer Nikolai Polikarpov came up with the initiative to create a fundamentally new combat aircraft for Soviet aviation - a fighter with heavy cannon armament, that could fulfill tasks typical for heavy fighters and attack aircraft, while possessing the flight characteristics of a light single-engine monoplane fighter. The military accepted Polikarpov's idea with interest, formulating tasks for the future aircraft, such as effective air combat, including the destruction of bombers, aerial destruction of tanks and armoured vehicles, as well as escort missions. The assembly of the first prototype began in May of 1941, however, due to the rapid offensive from the enemy towards Moscow, production had to be evacuated to Novosibirsk, Siberia, where the test unit was completed.

ITP (M-1) (ITP is for "heavy cannon fighter") was a monoplane fighter with a 1,650 hp M-107P engine, the armament of the aircraft consisted of a 37mm Sh-37 motor-mounted gun and a pair of 20mm ShVAK cannons. Flight tests began in February 1942, but were not fully completed due to engine problems. A little later, versions with the M-107A and the AM-37 engines were tested, on the second prototype, the 37mm cannon was replaced with another ShVAK cannon. Work on the ITP project was interrupted due to the untimely death of the Soviet "king of fighters" in 1944.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=itp_m1 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Images
<gallery mode="packed" heights="175">
File:ITP (M-1) WTWallpaper 01.jpg|
File:ITP (M-1) WTWallpaper 02.jpg|
File:ITP (M-1) WTWallpaper 03.jpg|
</gallery>

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|9ffyPCaxp9k|'''Battle Pass Vehicles''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 03:20 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|57j2HIxn7qk|'''ITP (M-1) Seal Clubbing Review''' - ''Dimitri_Rudov''|1tNEooOmoQg|'''The BEAST Within! ITP (M-1)! - USSR - Premium Review!''' - ''Jengar''}}

== See also ==


* [[Yak-9T]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7061-development-battle-pass-vehicles-itp-m-1-en|[Devblog] Battle Pass vehicles: ITP (M-1)]]

{{AirManufacturer Polikarpov}}
{{USSR fighters}}
{{USSR premium aircraft}}

File:ITP (M-1) armor schematic.png

2021-10-22T02:55:20Z

U70267797:

ITP armour diagram

Yak-3 (VK-107)

2021-10-20T21:15:46Z

U70267797: Added armour diagram and armour detail to the "pros" section

{{About
| about = Soviet premium fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = Yak-3 (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=yak-3_vk107
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.51 "Cold Steel"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}
''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 5,900 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 694 || 677 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 19.6 || 20.5 || 19.2 || 19.2 || rowspan="2" | 360
|-
! Upgraded
| 740 || 719 || 18.8 || 18.9 || 28.2 || 23.6
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| X || X || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || N/A || 280 || ~11 || ~8
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 380 || < 420 || < 490 || > 400
|-
|}

[[File:Armour Diagram of the Yak-3 (VK-107).png|thumb|478x478px|Armour Diagram of the Yak-3 (VK-107), corresponds to the list on the left]]

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

# 8.5 mm Steel - Pilot's seat armour
# 64 mm Bulletproof Glass - Shield behind the pilot's head
# 10 mm Steel - Armour above the pilot's head

;Critical components

* Self-sealing fuel tanks are located in the wings' root.
* All other critical components are located on the central airframe:
** The engine is at the front of the plane with the armament.
** Oil and liquid cooling systems are located in the belly, under the pilot.

The {{PAGENAME}} does not have either bulletproof windshield glass or engine protection plate. This makes head-on engagements ill-advised: even if the pilot manages to survive, the in-line engine cannot take much punishment. The overall durability of the plane is poor, as can be expected for a light aircraft. Large fuel tanks are located in the roots of the wings and easily set alight by any incoming bullets. The airframe itself is easily torn apart by heavy machine guns and cannons. Use the Yak-3's manoeuvrability and speed to avoid getting hit in the first place.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|B-20M (20 mm)|B-20S (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 20 mm B-20M cannon, nose-mounted (120 rpg)
* 1 x 20 mm B-20S cannon, nose-mounted (120 rpg)

The B-20M cannon is located in the engine shaft while the B-20S cannon is mounted above the engine offset to the left. The {{PAGENAME}} sports one less cannon than the Yak-3P. With only 2 x 20 mm cannons, the offensive armament is clearly lacking for a plane at this battle rating.

;Belt composition

* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|FI-T|Fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}
* '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|FI-T|Fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF|High-explosive fragmentation}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|FI-T|Fragmentation incendiary tracer}}
* '''Ground targets:''' {{Annotation|HEF|High-explosive fragmentation}}{{-}}{{Annotation|FI-T|Fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}
* '''Tracers:''' {{Annotation|FI-T|Fragmentation incendiary tracer}}
* '''Armoured targets:''' {{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|FI-T|Fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}
* '''Stealth:''' {{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF|High-explosive fragmentation}}{{-}}{{Annotation|FI|Fragmentation incendiary}}

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Controllable || Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Auto control available || Separate || Controllable 2 gears || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Fantastic rate of climb (comparable to [[J2M3]]/[[J2M5|5]], [[Bf 109 K-4]], [[Spitfire LF Mk IX]], [[Spitfire F Mk 24]], and [[P-51H-5-NA|P-51H]])
* Excellent turn rate and good roll rate
* Controls are very responsive at most speeds
* Amazing acceleration when below 5,000 m (16,400 ft), it's even better than some early jets
* Excellent energy retention in manoeuvres and in general
* Very good top speed below 6 km altitude
* Small, fast, and agile target; makes it good at defensive manoeuvres
* Flaps deploy and retract quickly
* Nose-mounted armament, allows for precision at longer ranges without need of convergence
* May survive being set on fire once
* Armour configuration makes pilot snipes less likely when being chased

'''Cons:'''

* Low top speed in a dive, the plane rips past 720 km/h IAS (450 mph)
* Control stiffening occurs at high speeds
* Fully deployed flaps break past 280 km/h IAS (175 mph)
* Engine performance is nothing special when above 6,000 m (19,600 ft)
* Engine overheats over 96% throttle, use 95% or less to cool down the engine
* Radiators eventually open at high throttle settings, adding significant drag
* Mediocre manoeuvrability at low speeds
* Low ammo count, only 120 rounds per gun with high rate of fire
* Guns are weak compared to most 20 mm cannons used by other nations

== History ==


The idea to produce a new fighter for the Red Army Air Force went as far back as 1941. It was then that the Yakovlev Design Bureau presented the I-30 prototype, intended an alternative to the earlier Yak-1 design. However, the German invasion of the USSR, as well as aluminium shortages, meant that the project had to be put on hold. Yakovlev resumed the development in 1943 while working on an upgraded version of the Yak-1 fighter. This time, it was decided that a new aircraft should be produced to completely replace the Yak-1 and Yak-7 models.

By September 1943, yet another improved variant was ready, designated Yak-1M Dubler, on which the canvas skin on the tail section was replaced with 2mm plywood, and oil and water radiators were improved. The Dubler also had a new mastless antenna, a ring sight instead of a reflector sight, improved armour and a new propeller. Test pilots were impressed by the new prototype. Their report stated in part: "''Yak-1M possessed excellent horizontal, and especially vertical, manoeuvrability. Top speed greatly improved compared to earlier serial-production Yaks. Despite the improved performance, the aircraft remains easy to fly and does not require extensive pilot training''."

The new machine was dubbed as the Yak-3 and entered service with the Red Army Air Force in 1944. The Yak-3 was a further modification of the Yak-1, produced in 1944 and 1945, with a total of 4,848 built, and considered one of the best fighters of the war.

The new fighter quickly became very popular with Soviet pilots. They highly praised its solid armament of two Berezin UBS 12.7 mm machine guns and one ShVAK 20 mm cannon as well as ease of piloting and superb low-altitude performance. Marcel Albert, the top scoring French ace of World War II, cited the Yak-3 as one of the best fighters of the war, along with the P-51 Mustang and the Supermarine Spitfire. After the war, the Yak-3 was also used by the Air Forces of Socialist Yugoslavia and Poland.<ref name="forum">[https://warthunder.com/en/news/2693--en <nowiki>[Aircraft Profile] Yak-3</nowiki>]</ref>

The Yak-3P was produced from April 1945 until mid-1946, armed with 3 × 20 mm Berezin B-20 cannon with 120 rounds for the middle cannon and 130 RPG for the side weapons. The three-cannon armament with full ammunition load was actually 11 kg (24 lb) lighter than that of a standard Yak-3, and the one-second burst mass of 3.52 kg (7.74 lb) was greater than that of most contemporary fighters. Starting in August 1945, all Yak-3 were produced in the Yak-3P configuration with a total of 596 built.

=== In-game description ===
The Yak-3 was a Soviet single-engine fighter of the WWII era. It was the first combat aircraft designed by Alexander Yakovlev's construction bureau. The Yak-3 was a further modification of the Yak-1, produced in 1944 and 1945, with a total of 4,848 built, and considered one of the best fighters of the war. In February 1943, a new Yak-1M variant was completed. It was a further development of the Yak-1, differing from it mainly in lower weight and smaller wing span.

By September 1943, yet another improved variant was ready, designated Yak-1M Dubler, on which the canvas skin on the tail section was replaced with 2mm plywood, and oil and water radiators were improved. The Dubler also had a new mastless antenna, a ring sight instead of a reflector sight, improved armor and a new propeller. Test pilots were impressed by the new prototype. Their report stated in part: "Yak-1M possessed excellent horizontal, and especially vertical, maneuverability. Top speed greatly improved compared to earlier serial-production Yaks. Despite improved performance, the aircraft remains easy to fly and does not require extensive pilot training." Therefore, the new modification went into production, receiving a new designation, Yak-3.

One of the most memorable air battles for the Yak-3 took place on 16th July 1944, when the plane showed it could confidently engage superior enemy forces. On that day, 10 Yak-3s met 8 Bf-109s and 4 FW-190s, with the battle eventually growing to 18 Soviet and 24 German planes. In the end, 15 German planes were shot down, for the loss of a single Yak-3.

== Media ==


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== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/250143-yakovlev-yak-3-vk-107a/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]

=== References ===
<references />

{{AirManufacturer Yakovlev}}
{{USSR fighters}}
{{USSR premium aircraft}}

File:Armour Diagram of the Yak-3 (VK-107).png

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Armour Diagram of the Yak-3 (VK-107), corresponds to the list on the left

Bostwick's P-47M-1-RE

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U70267797: Corrected on the deck speed "con" to poor acceleration; the P-47M can actually reach 595 km/h while near the ground, but it takes a long time to reach these speeds

{{About
| about = gift American fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = P-47 (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=p-47m-1-re
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
|cockpit=cockpit_p-47m-1-re.jpg
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== Description ==

'''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} American fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.49 "Weapons of Victory"]]. The Republic P-47M was the fastest of the production model Thunderbolts. The plane is painted after the camouflage scheme of American pilot George E. Bostwick in the US Army Air Force in the 56th Fighter Group.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


The P-47M is a high-altitude interceptor that has impressive armament and ordnance that serves it well in both the fighter and Close Air Support role. In Air RB, it is currently unequalled in performance at its battle rating, possessing ridiculous top speed, competitive climb rate, decent energy retention, great armament, and surprising manoeuvrability at speed.

As such, the P-47M is best played to its strengths as a Boom & Zoom and Boom & Run fighter in Air RB. In Ground RB it is an excellent fighter bomber with a good rocket/bomb load-out and .50 cals that can deal with most turret roofs.

The M variant was specifically setup to intercept Germany's buzz-bombs and the new [[Me 262 A-1a|jet]]/[[Me 163 B|rocket]] powered fighters. The primary advantage of this new variant came through speed. The aircraft was powered by either a Pratt & Whitney R-2800-14W or R-2800-5 engine while using the CH-5 turbo-supercharger. The aircraft was able to produce 2,800 hp, giving it higher top speed.

The P-47M has the flight performance of super-props. Top speeds above 5 km exceed literally any opponent besides the [[Ta 152 H-1]] (which is only faster at around 11-12 km). Climb rate is great, at around an average of 23 m/s from 0-6,000 m. WEP is available for up to 12 minutes to maximize engine output.

Interestingly (besides the better engine), the P-47M gets a unique airbrake which makes it very easy to stick behind the tails of opponents in a high-speed dive.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 9,144 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 726 || 711 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 25.3 || 26.1 || 10.8 || 10.8 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 794 || 760 || 22.8 || 24.0 || 23.3 || 15.9
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 498 || 469 || 320 || ~13 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 400 || < 420 || < 470 || > 335
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
[[File:P47M Armor Schematic.png|thumb|300px|Armour diagram of the P-47M-1-RE, corresponds to the list on the left]]
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


# 9.5 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 38 mm Bulletproof glass - Windscreen
# 9.5 mm Steel - Seat back and headrest armour plates

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|M2 Browning (12.7 mm)}}

'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 8 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (425 rpg = 3,400 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|HVAR}}

'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==


First of all, the P-47 should always fly fast. No matter the altitude, it is recommended to fly at speeds higher than 520 km/h (~320 mph). One of the few things the P-47 is terrible at doing is prolonged dogfighting. Imagine a truck loaded with cement with wings strapped to the side. Congratulations, you just pictured a P-47 flying at low speeds. Now, with this out of the way you must remember one thing and one thing only, when and where possible, fly high, the higher the better. The higher in altitude the P-47 goes the better the engine performs compared to its potential adversaries. The best altitude for the P-47M is around 9,000 m (~30,000 ft), but it still can perform very good at lower altitudes ranging from 6,000 m (~20,000 ft) to 8,000 m (~26,000 ft). One drawback of the P-47M's engine is that it can easily overheat when using WEP for extended periods of time, however just disabling WEP for few seconds should be enough to cool down the powerful Pratt & Whitney powerplant hidden under the hood.

=== Combat tactics ===
'''Arcade:''' Much of what was mentioned above can be disregarded due to the adjusted flight model of arcade battles, instead just put your throttle to WEP, climb above your enemies and Boom & Zoom them. It is important to realize that while the P-47 can be the king of the hill, there are a few others which will buck for the spot too including Spitfires, Fw 190s and Bf 109s as they can climb as good as you and they often have cannons which in no time can dismantle a P-47 quickly in flight.

'''Realistic:''' A P-47M's pilot should not take any additional armaments such as bombs and rockets, they will only slow down the plane and make it an easy prey for Bf 109 K-4s, Ta 152s and Fw 190s. As soon as you take off from the airfield divert 30 degrees to left or right (depends on where the middle of the map is, just don't climb towards the middle), engage WEP and climb at ~17-18 degrees. The best speed for climbing is around ~267 km/h (~165 mph). When you reach an altitude of about 5,500 m (18,000 ft) start to gradually turn towards the middle of the map. Watch out for any enemy planes coming towards you, especially the Ta 152s and Bf 109 K-4s which are the biggest threats as they have similar performance output compared to the P-47M. At ~6,000 m you will notice that climbing at 18 degrees makes your plane go slower and is necessary to adjust the angle of attack to 10-15 degrees. It is also a plausible option to stop climbing at this point since you will probably be above everyone. Next, it is recommended to fly level and gain some speed, but not more than 400 km/h (~250 mph). In this situation, the P-47 will reign supreme over the skies, look around you, see if there are any enemy planes spotted and pick off the easiest targets, preferably slow-flying fighters which are flying straight. If you cannot see such targets go for other fighters, 109s and G.55s are your priority targets, as they can easily kill you if you are not careful.

Always perform powered dives, and if you feel you're going too fast just extend the airbrakes long enough to reign in the aircraft's speed. This is one of the biggest advantages of P-47M over the D-series and other comparable prop fighters. When you are over with the Boom portion of the flying do not climb outright, instead, speed away from the enemies (preferably towards your teammates) increasing distance between you and anyone tailing. When you gain ~3 km (~2 mi) of separation from enemy planes you can do the Zoom part of the tactic or keep running if you're feeling that the enemy planes could catch up to you. Climb at 10 degrees and gain enough altitude to ensure that you have an energy advantage above enemy planes. In most dire situations you can try to go for head-on (only if you have at least 2.5 km separation from the enemy) attack, but it's not recommended to do that as you will most likely damage your engine in the process. In the worst-case scenario, the fighter will catch fire and burn up. If you see an enemy fighter which is attempting to dive at you, try to force them to overshoot, call for help and fly towards your closest teammate. You can shrug off few hits to the fuselage but anything that touches your wings and elevators will most likely disable or destroy the aircraft's ability to fly well or at all. Flying with your friends also helps as you can quickly call them to assist you. If you're the only one left on your team you should climb, look out for enemy fighters and Boom & Zoom them, just keep in mind that P-47 is not the best plane to do 1 vs 2 dogfights in. Try to separate enemies and pick them off one by one. Bombers are typically a difficult target to go after as they usually soak up quite a bit of ammunition before taking critical damage and you risk being set afire or sniped by the defensive gunners. However, the long effective range and shallow drop of the .50 cals makes it possible to attack some bombers from outside their own gunners' effective range.

It's important to remember that the P-47's first and foremost mission is air superiority, especially in the case of the P-47M. Taking bombs and rockets will make your plane even more sluggish than it already is and because of that you will have to fly near the ground, and that typically makes the P-47 easy pickings for other enemy fighters. This is not to say you should never attack ground targets however, and there are certain situations where it is more rewarding (e.g. no enemy fighters left). With a large ammunition pool of 3,400 .50 cal rounds, there will almost certainly be enough left over to wreak substantial havoc on soft targets. It's also important to note that the Ground Targets and Tracers belts are capable of destroying light pillboxes with ~250 rounds. For more flexibility in attacking, it is sometimes beneficial to take on ordnance, but you should only do this after expending all of your .50 cal ammunition. The two 1,000 lb and 500 lb bombs as well as eight HVAR rockets mean it is possible to engage hard targets such as tanks. Again, it must be remembered that this should only seriously be considered if the relative danger to your aircraft is virtually zero. But if this is the case, it is very rewarding to the player as well as helps win the game faster.

It is important to mention the two schools of thought regarding the ammunition belts for .50 cals. The first one says that you should use Ground Targets belts because of the high amount of armour piercing rounds which do a lot of damage and can easily shred anything hit with them. However, the second school of thought states one should use Tracers belts because they have the highest chance of setting the enemy on fire which will typically leads to a fiery destruction of the enemy aircraft. But, there's one thing everyone agrees on: don't use Default belts, as the other available belts have a higher ratio of more damaging AP-T, API, and API-T bullets.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Auto control available || Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Separate || Controllable 1 gear || Auto controlled
|-
|}
To get the most performance out of your Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57(C), use 120% mixture from 0 to 2,000 m, 80% mixture from 2,000 to 4,000 m, and 60% mixture above 4,000 m. The default setting on auto mixture controls is 60%, setting it higher at lower altitudes allows you to squeeze some extra horsepower out of the engine, which significantly improves the rate of climb. It is possible to set the oil and engine radiators to 0% and not worry about overheating when not using WEP. However, prolonged WEP usage will overheat the engine in this state, and it should only be used when maximum power is absolutely necessary. To run WEP for extended periods of time, set the oil radiator to ~30%, and engine radiator from 25% to 50% as needed. It is important to note that you have a limited WEP duration of ~15 minutes. While this is enough to last through most engagements, during prolonged battles it does well to conserve the boost for when it is most needed.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Forgiving aircraft
* Eight deadly .50 cal M2 Brownings
* Great ground-attack ordnance selection
* Unrivalled high altitude performance
* Very good high-speed manoeuvrability
* Enemies are often surprised by the enhanced performance of what is usually seen as an easy target
* Good climb rate; can keep up with many fighters at its battle rating, unlike its earlier variants
* Airbrakes
* Radial engine is good at soaking up damage from the rest of the aircraft
* Access to premium bonuses in Silver Lion and Research Points

'''Cons:'''

* Payloads encourage a low-altitude attacker playstyle, playing into P-47M's disadvantages
* Sluggish acceleration on the deck as the turbocharger doesn't produce much extra horsepower
* This inadequate top speed near the ground means most enemy fighters will be able to catch you
* Poor low-speed manoeuvrability: a prolonged turnfight almost always ends badly
* Large size and wingspan makes it easier for enemy fighters to score hits on you
* While protective, the engine will typically suffer disproportionately at the cost of keeping the plane intact
* Engine easily catches fire when hit by 13/15/20 mm shells

== History ==


Four P-47D-27 Aircraft were pulled from the production line at the Farmingdale factory and were fitted with the Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57(C) engine. They were also equipped with a larger CH-5 turbo-supercharger allowing the aircraft to reach 2,800 hp at 32,000 feet. Air brakes were also added underneath the wings to aid in deceleration and recovery during dives. These four prototypes were re-designated YP-47M.

The engine installations were eventually added to the last 130 P-47D-30s from Farmingdale in Sept of 1944. They were all re-designated P-47M-1-RE. It is important to note that the under-wing racks were not fitted to this aircraft. It was intended to be strictly a fighter. They were delivered in Dec. of 1944. The dorsal fins were later added as a field modification.

The M-variant saw service with the 56th Fighter Group but problems with the new highly tuned R-2800 delayed their use until the last weeks of the war in Europe. At one point the aircraft was pulled from service and replaced with D variants until the aircraft performed reliably. The P-47M was never used against V-1 flying bombs, its original target.

The P-47M is most remembered for Major George Bostwick's engagements with the [[Me 262 A-1a|Me 262]]. Bostwick shot down a Me 262 on March 25 1945. He was able to damage a second one a few days later on April 7th.

His P-47M-1-RE had the nickname "Ugly Duckling" and a striking paint scheme.

== Media ==


;Skins

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;Videos
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== See also ==


;Carbon-copy vehicle

* [[Lanovski's P-47M-1-RE]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/3073/current/|[Series] Maj. George Bostwick's P-47 Thunderbolt]]
* [http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/234553-republic-p-47m/ Official WT forum Aircraft Data Sheet section: "Republic P-47M"]

{{AirManufacturer Republic}}
{{USA fighters}}
{{USA premium aircraft}}

Ta 152 H-1

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U70267797: Undo revision 113255 by U44629479 (talk)

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 C-3
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152h-1
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


While the Ta 152 H-1 is the ultimate evolution of the Fw 190, the [[Ta 152 C-3]] takes the Fw 190's concepts to their limit. Don't be dissuaded however, the H-1 is a different beast altogether. Fast, manoeuvrable, and stable past 350 km/h, it is more nimble than most enemies at its BR, has a decent climb rate, short turn time (especially with landing flaps), and above average roll rate. The Ta 152 H-1 trades the incredible roll rate of the Fw 190 for a great energy retention and turnfighting ability. You will outclimb most competitors and will usually have an altitude advantage due to the interceptor airspawn.

[[File:Cockpit Ta152.jpg|x150px|right|thumb|none|Cockpit of the Ta 152]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,200 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 725 || 707 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.1 || 21.3 || 14.0 || 14.0 || rowspan="2" | 315
|-
! Upgraded
| 788 || 755 || 20.3 || 20.5 || 22.2 || 17.5
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 536 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 360 || < 220 || < 500 || > 320
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|2,000 m||1,740 hp||2,063 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|6,200 m||1,556 hp||1,842 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|9,100 m||1,299 hp||1,535 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 4
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|12,200 m||999 hp||1,376 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
[[File:Ta 152 H-1 armor schematic.png|thumb|400px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 H-1, corresponds to the list on the left]]


# 15 mm Steel - Engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm Steel - Oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm Steel - Angled ammunition and pilot armour
# 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 70 mm Angled bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
# 20 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
# 8 mm Steel + 5 mm Steel - Rear pilot shield
# 5 mm Steel - Fuel tank shield

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 108 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

The Ta-152 H-1 is a high altitude fighter with a wide wingspan and good manoeuvrability. Unlike its heavier cousin the [[Ta 152 C-3]], the H-1's best performance is reached when flying above 9,000 m (~30,000 ft) altitude as this is where the engine performs at maximum efficiency. A Ta 152 H-1 with altitude advantage is a deadly force to be reckoned with, having a great dive speed and energy retention, making it an efficient Hit and Run plane. With an interceptor airspawn, the climbing phase is shortened. However, the pilot must be aware of planes with a high climb rate like Spitfires or P-51s, as they can absolutely possess an altitude advantage at first contact, despite having to take off from the ground.

Even though the Ta 152 H-1 is an high altitude fighter, it can still perform at medium and low altitudes. Being quite manoeuvrable, it can do well in a dogfight against certain opponents, as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with combat flaps. However, some nimbler opponents will outmanoeuvre it easily if they possess an energy advantage. In these situations, it is best for the Ta 152 H-1 to use its primary strengths (speed, turning and manoeuvring energy retention; MER), to gain the upper hand. Do note you are not out of options when close to the ground as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with flaps. Another role for the Ta 152 H-1 is the interception of heavy bombers at high altitude. Even if the bomber is trying to escape, the Ta 152 H-1 will quickly catch up thanks to its powerful engine.

The armament of the Ta-152 H-1 is fairly powerful: the Minengeschoß-firing 30 mm MK 108 and 2 x 20 mm MG 151 have enough power to inflict heavy damage on most targets it will encounter. Though be aware that the MK 108 only has 90 rounds at its disposal and is most efficient at close range. Meanwhile, the two MG 151 have 175 rounds per gun for a total of 350 rounds, and can be used with much more liberty.

Enemies to be aware of in the Ta 152 H-1 are opponents such as the [[Spitfire F Mk 24]], [[F8F (Family)|F8F]], [[P-51H-5-NA]], [[F2G-1]] and [[Ki-84 (Family)|Ki-84]]. These foes can intercept and force the Ta 152 H-1 into dogfights on equal terms, trying to gain an energy or altitude advantage is key before engagement with these aircraft.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 5 gears || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact, and serves well in bomber interception
* Stable in all axes (joystick), and fairly nimble in a turn (mouse aim)
* Good armour layout protects both the pilot and engine, strong in head-ons
* GM-1 engine boost gives outstanding performance above 7,000 m, at these altitudes a good pilot can go head to head with any foe
* Combat flaps rip off at 700 km/h, which means you can use them at almost any speed
* Above average turnfighter for Germany, landing flaps increase turn so much that you can keep up with most fighters; even some Spitfires
* Has some of the best manoeuvring energy retention (MER) performance in the game, it will easily win a prolonged dogfight with good usage of flaps
* Excellent diver, wings only rip past 870 km/h (540 mph)
* Decently fast on the deck, can reach 580 km/h (360 mph) and will catch most enemies in a straight chase
* Very fast at high altitude (>7 km); at 12,200 m the Ta 152 H-1 will reach 755 km/h (469 mph), making it the fastest single engine German prop fighter

'''Cons:'''

* 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit
* Has a tendency to snap roll viciously, especially in a stall
* Very strong brakes, will easily flip over if not used sparingly, and is thus slower to land than most aircraft
* Losing your flaps through gunfire or otherwise is a massive detriment to turning performance and hampers your ability to dogfight effectively
* Despite having an above average roll rate, it is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
* Average climb rate, even with the airspawn it can be difficult to attain an altitude advantage over foes such as the Spitfire
* Below average ammo capacity, good trigger discipline is a must with the Ta 152 H
* Long wings increase chance of collision with enemy aircraft, especially in head-ons
* Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks due to wing surface area
* No external payload options or HVAP shells on the MK 108, making this strictly an air superiority plane

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude maneuverability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal center of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminum, steel spars were utilized aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152H variant

The Ta 152H-1 was refined to be more of a high-altitude fighter even so over the Ta 152C. Wings were extended a full length of 14.4 m (47.4 ft), though this lowered its overall speed, it provided substantial improvement with high-altitude handling. To aid the pilots in the higher altitude flights, the H variant was outfitted with a pressurized cockpit. The cockpit was pressurized to approximately a level comparable with 8,000 m (26,250 ft) and the canopy was comprised of two layers of which the outer was a thicker material with a thinner inner pane. To compensate for any moisture which could form between the panes, silica gel was added to aid in stemming any fogging. Unlike the 'C' variant, the 'H' only utilized a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub along with just two MG 151/20 mm autocannons, both of which were mounted in the upper fuselage. Eliminating the two wing-mounted cannons aided in increased maneuverability and less weight to make up for some of the additional weight added due to the pressurized cockpit system.

Overall the Ta 152H variant was one of the fastest piston-engine fighters to emerge during World War II, cruising around 750 km/h (465 mph) while at around 10,200 m (33,000 ft). The Ta 152H also employed the usage of GM-1 nitrous oxide boost and MW 50 methanol-water boost to briefly increase performance in the aircraft and if necessary, both could be applied at the same time.<ref name="Militaryfactory" />

=== In-game description ===
The Ta 152 was, without a doubt, the best aircraft designed by Kurt Tank for Focke-Wulf. The aircraft was a further redesign of the venerable Fw 190, namely of the Fw 190 D. The Ta 152 became possible thanks to the new high-altitude Jumo 213 and DB 603 engines.

Development began in the winter of 1942-1943, when RLM's technical department released specifications for a new 'Spezial Jaeger', or Special Fighter. The fighter was to be capable of a high-altitude interceptor role. The Ta 152 H-1 was armed with a MK 108 cannon with 85 rounds firing through the propeller hub and two MG 151/20 cannons (220 rounds per gun) in the wings. The H-1 went into serial production in January or February of 1945. A total of only 70 or so were produced, of which very few made it to front-line service.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ta-152h-1 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|5oVIzdap51E|'''The Shooting Range #212''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 04:43 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.|t3xD7JpnHeI|'''Best aircraft for Boom & Zoom''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 3:52 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|4v3fxupuZPA|'''Last piston fighters''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 1:42 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|LCVpwcd7H9s|'''{{PAGENAME}} - Strategy and Tactics - Guide - War Thunder''' - ''Green Fury''|nXeC3YM2Ds0|'''{{PAGENAME}} (FM Changes Revisit 1.79!)''' - ''Jengar''|yyB_--akcGI|'''TA IS LIFE - {{PAGENAME}}''' - ''Slick Plays''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.ru/index.php?/topic/96066-ta-152-h1/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance (Russian Forum)]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 H-1

2021-10-08T17:49:27Z

U70267797: Undo revision 113228 by U44629479 (talk) Please give me a reason as to why you are undoing this edit, it is reasonable and has no grounds for being removed

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 C-3
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152h-1
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


While the Ta 152 H-1 is the ultimate evolution of the Fw 190, the [[Ta 152 C-3]] takes the Fw 190's concepts to their limit. Don't be dissuaded however, the H-1 is a different beast altogether. Fast, manoeuvrable, and stable past 350 km/h, it is more nimble than most enemies at its BR, has a decent climb rate, short turn time (especially with landing flaps), and above average roll rate. The Ta 152 H-1 trades the incredible roll rate of the Fw 190 for a great energy retention and turnfighting ability. You will outclimb most competitors and will usually have an altitude advantage due to the interceptor airspawn.

[[File:Cockpit Ta152.jpg|x150px|right|thumb|none|Cockpit of the Ta 152]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,200 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 725 || 707 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.1 || 21.3 || 14.0 || 14.0 || rowspan="2" | 315
|-
! Upgraded
| 788 || 755 || 20.3 || 20.5 || 22.2 || 17.5
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 536 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 360 || < 220 || < 500 || > 320
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|2,000 m||1,740 hp||2,063 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|6,200 m||1,556 hp||1,842 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|9,100 m||1,299 hp||1,535 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 4
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|12,200 m||999 hp||1,376 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
[[File:Ta 152 H-1 armor schematic.png|thumb|400px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 H-1, corresponds to the list on the left]]


# 15 mm Steel - Engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm Steel - Oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm Steel - Angled ammunition and pilot armour
# 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 70 mm Angled bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
# 20 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
# 8 mm Steel + 5 mm Steel - Rear pilot shield
# 5 mm Steel - Fuel tank shield

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 108 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

The Ta-152 H-1 is a high altitude fighter with a wide wingspan and good manoeuvrability. Unlike its heavier cousin the [[Ta 152 C-3]], the H-1's best performance is reached when flying above 9,000 m (~30,000 ft) altitude as this is where the engine performs at maximum efficiency. A Ta 152 H-1 with altitude advantage is a deadly force to be reckoned with, having a great dive speed and energy retention, making it an efficient Hit and Run plane. With an interceptor airspawn, the climbing phase is shortened. However, the pilot must be aware of planes with a high climb rate like Spitfires or P-51s, as they can absolutely possess an altitude advantage at first contact, despite having to take off from the ground.

Even though the Ta 152 H-1 is an high altitude fighter, it can still perform at medium and low altitudes. Being quite manoeuvrable, it can do well in a dogfight against certain opponents, as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with combat flaps. However, some nimbler opponents will outmanoeuvre it easily if they possess an energy advantage. In these situations, it is best for the Ta 152 H-1 to use its primary strengths (speed, turning and manoeuvring energy retention; MER), to gain the upper hand. Do note you are not out of options when close to the ground as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with flaps. Another role for the Ta 152 H-1 is the interception of heavy bombers at high altitude. Even if the bomber is trying to escape, the Ta 152 H-1 will quickly catch up thanks to its powerful engine.

The armament of the Ta-152 H-1 is fairly powerful: the Minengeschoß-firing 30 mm MK 108 and 2 x 20 mm MG 151 have enough power to inflict heavy damage on most targets it will encounter. Though be aware that the MK 108 only has 90 rounds at its disposal and is most efficient at close range. Meanwhile, the two MG 151 have 175 rounds per gun for a total of 350 rounds, and can be used with much more liberty.

Enemies to be aware of in the Ta 152 H-1 are opponents such as the [[Spitfire F Mk 24]], [[F8F (Family)|F8F]], [[P-51H-5-NA]], [[F2G-1]] and [[Ki-84 (Family)|Ki-84]]. These foes can intercept and force the Ta 152 H-1 into dogfights on equal terms, trying to gain an energy or altitude advantage is key before engagement with these aircraft.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 5 gears || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact, and serves well in bomber interception
* Stable in all axes (joystick), and fairly nimble in a turn (mouse aim)
* Good armour layout protects both the pilot and engine, strong in head-ons
* GM-1 engine boost gives outstanding performance above 7,000 m, at these altitudes a good pilot can go head to head with any foe
* Combat flaps rip off at 700 km/h, which means you can use them at almost any speed
* Above average turnfighter for Germany, landing flaps increase turn so much that you can keep up with most fighters; even some Spitfires
* Has some of the best manoeuvring energy retention (MER) performance in the game, it will easily win a prolonged dogfight with good usage of flaps
* Excellent diver, wings only rip past 870 km/h (540 mph)
* Decently fast on the deck, can reach 580 km/h (360 mph) and will catch most enemies in a straight chase
* Very fast at high altitude (>7 km); at 12,200 m the Ta 152 H-1 will reach 755 km/h (469 mph), making it the fastest single engine German prop fighter

'''Cons:'''

* 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit
* Has a tendency to snap roll viciously, especially in a stall
* Very strong brakes, will easily flip over if not used sparingly, and is thus slower to land than most aircraft
* Losing your flaps through gunfire or otherwise is a massive detriment to turning performance and hampers your ability to dogfight effectively
* Despite having an above average roll rate, it is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
* Average climb rate, even with the airspawn it can be difficult to attain an altitude advantage over foes such as the Spitfire
* Below average ammo capacity, good trigger discipline is a must with the Ta 152 H
* Long wings increase chance of collision with enemy aircraft, especially in head-ons
* Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks due to wing surface area
* No external payload options or HVAP shells on the MK 108, making this strictly an air superiority plane

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude maneuverability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal center of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminum, steel spars were utilized aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152H variant

The Ta 152H-1 was refined to be more of a high-altitude fighter even so over the Ta 152C. Wings were extended a full length of 14.4 m (47.4 ft), though this lowered its overall speed, it provided substantial improvement with high-altitude handling. To aid the pilots in the higher altitude flights, the H variant was outfitted with a pressurized cockpit. The cockpit was pressurized to approximately a level comparable with 8,000 m (26,250 ft) and the canopy was comprised of two layers of which the outer was a thicker material with a thinner inner pane. To compensate for any moisture which could form between the panes, silica gel was added to aid in stemming any fogging. Unlike the 'C' variant, the 'H' only utilized a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub along with just two MG 151/20 mm autocannons, both of which were mounted in the upper fuselage. Eliminating the two wing-mounted cannons aided in increased maneuverability and less weight to make up for some of the additional weight added due to the pressurized cockpit system.

Overall the Ta 152H variant was one of the fastest piston-engine fighters to emerge during World War II, cruising around 750 km/h (465 mph) while at around 10,200 m (33,000 ft). The Ta 152H also employed the usage of GM-1 nitrous oxide boost and MW 50 methanol-water boost to briefly increase performance in the aircraft and if necessary, both could be applied at the same time.<ref name="Militaryfactory" />

=== In-game description ===
The Ta 152 was, without a doubt, the best aircraft designed by Kurt Tank for Focke-Wulf. The aircraft was a further redesign of the venerable Fw 190, namely of the Fw 190 D. The Ta 152 became possible thanks to the new high-altitude Jumo 213 and DB 603 engines.

Development began in the winter of 1942-1943, when RLM's technical department released specifications for a new 'Spezial Jaeger', or Special Fighter. The fighter was to be capable of a high-altitude interceptor role. The Ta 152 H-1 was armed with a MK 108 cannon with 85 rounds firing through the propeller hub and two MG 151/20 cannons (220 rounds per gun) in the wings. The H-1 went into serial production in January or February of 1945. A total of only 70 or so were produced, of which very few made it to front-line service.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ta-152h-1 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|5oVIzdap51E|'''The Shooting Range #212''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 04:43 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.|t3xD7JpnHeI|'''Best aircraft for Boom & Zoom''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 3:52 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|4v3fxupuZPA|'''Last piston fighters''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 1:42 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|LCVpwcd7H9s|'''{{PAGENAME}} - Strategy and Tactics - Guide - War Thunder''' - ''Green Fury''|nXeC3YM2Ds0|'''{{PAGENAME}} (FM Changes Revisit 1.79!)''' - ''Jengar''|yyB_--akcGI|'''TA IS LIFE - {{PAGENAME}}''' - ''Slick Plays''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.ru/index.php?/topic/96066-ta-152-h1/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance (Russian Forum)]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Re.2005 serie 0

2021-10-08T04:43:05Z

U70267797: Added armour diagram, fixed small grammatical errors

{{Specs-Card
|code=re_2005_serie0
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

With spectacular turning capabilities, excellent energy retention, adequate roll rate and solid climb rate, the Re.2005 '''''Sagittario''''' is the definition of agile. It can turn on a dime and keep its speed through those turns, allowing it to be a fantastic dogfighter capable of out-turning almost everything - spare the occasional Japanese fighter - with the correct usage of the rudders and combat flaps. The main weakness of the 2005 is its comparatively mediocre speed for a prop aircraft at its battle rating, being worse than most of its German, American, British and certain Russian contemporaries. Despite this speed gap, it holds quite a high diving speed along with excellent acceleration, allowing you to catch up to faster targets quickly after an overshoot.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 7,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 627 || 612 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 19.9 || 20.6 || 12.5 || 12.5 || rowspan="2" | 165
|-
! Upgraded
| 675 || 650 || 18.2 || 19.0 || 20.4 || 16.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 454 || 421 || 250 || ~11 || ~8
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 350 || < 350 || < 380 || > 715
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 6,200 m || 1,250 hp || 1,407 hp
|-
|}

[[File:Re.2005 Armor Schematic.png|thumb|478x478px|Armour diagram of the Re.2005 serie 0, corresponds to the list on the left]]

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


# 50 mm (63°) Bulletproof Glass - Armoured Windscreen
# 8 mm Steel - Armoured Headrest
# 8 mm Steel - Rear pilot shield

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MG 151 (20 mm)|Breda-SAFAT (12.7 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon, nose-mounted (200 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (200 rpg = 400 total)
* 2 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns, nose-mounted (380 rpg = 760 total)

Two of the cannons are mounted in the wings with the remaining cannon being a nose-mounted ''Motorkanone'' that fires through the propeller spinner. Each cannon is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all wing-mounted guns will fire together until empty. Never use the Bredas as the main weapon, as they do mediocre damage beyond 300 m and are only useful for lining up shots or forcing enemies to turn.

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|GP 50 (50 kg)|GP 100 (100 kg)|GP 250 (250 kg)|GP 500 (500 kg)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 2 x 50 kg GP 50 bombs (100 kg total)
* 2 x 100 kg GP 100 bombs (200 kg total)
* 1 x 250 kg GP 250 bomb (250 kg total)
* 1 x 250 kg GP 250 bomb + 2 x 50 kg GP 50 bombs (350 kg total)
* 1 x 250 kg GP 250 bomb + 2 x 100 kg GP 100 bombs (450 kg total)
* 1 x 500 kg GP 500 bomb (500 kg total)
* 1 x 500 kg GP 500 bomb + 2 x 50 kg GP 50 bombs (600 kg total)
* 1 x 500 kg GP 500 bomb + 2 x 100 kg GP 100 bombs (700 kg total)

== Usage in battles ==

The Re.2005 is a classic dogfighter, with surprisingly amazing manoeuvrability that can catch most enemies off guard and shred them with its excellent armament setup. While the aircraft can tailor to most forms of air combat, it should ideally be used as a mid-to-high altitude energy fighter or turn fighter where it can use its amicable energy retention and spectacular manoeuvrability to its advantage.
[[File:Example of the vertical spiral maneuver.jpg|thumb|Example of the Vertical spiral, which the Re.2005 can easily abuse]]
You should make use of energy-wasting manoeuvres such as vertical spirals and hammerheads to bleed the enemy of their speed advantage and force them to fight on your terms.

Of course, the large underslung payload available means the Re.2005 can be a decent ground-pounder as well, being able to drop its bombs quickly and engage the furball. While the Italian bombs are nothing spectacular, they can get the job done fairly well. However, it is worth noting that carrying the largest payload available has a noticeable impact on performance and forces the aircraft into the area it suffers the most in, that being low altitude where its once decent speed becomes extremely poor, compounded by the fact its carrying bombs.

'''''Specific enemies worth noting:'''''

* [[Bf 109 G-2/trop|Bf 109 G-2]], [[Bf 109 G-6|G-6]] and [[Bf 109 G-10|G-10]]. The ''Gustav'' series of the legendary Messerschmitt fighters are ones to be feared. They can fit themselves with powerful gun pods that match your firepower and hold a significant advantage over you with their speed and climb rate. However, you can turn circles around them and can potentially win a head-on if you fire around 1.5 km away then perform evasive manoeuvres. Your best bet is to engage one in a turn fight or dive on them while they're preoccupied with a teammate.
* [[P-51D-30]]. While not a major enemy and extremely uncommon due to the battle rating, the D-30 variant of the Mustang can be a very persistent thorn in your side. It'll blitz you in terms of speed and climb rate, and it has far superior performance above 5 km, and its sextuple Browning M2's will set your airframe ablaze in a few well-placed shots. Fortunately, its turning capabilities are very poor below medium speeds and you can easily destroy it with some well-aimed deflection shots.
* [[P-51H-5-NA]]. If the P-51D is a muscle car, the P-51H is a high-performance sports car. Arguably one of the best propeller-driven aircraft in the game as a result of its exceptionally high speed, climb rate and reasonable mobility, a well-flown P-51H will walk all over the poor 2005. It retains all of the advantages of its previous model and negates a few of its weaknesses, most notably its horrendous turning capabilities. It will outclimb you and outspeed you, but will still have troubles turning with you, so employ turn-heavy manoeuvres in order to get some deflection shots.
* [[Ki-84 otsu]] and [[Ki-84 hei|hei]]. These two are by far the most dangerous opponents you can come in contact with. The ''Hayate's'' boast impressive manoeuvrability that allows them to turn with you, high speed, and reasonably powerful armament on their platforms. While you can potentially win a turn fight versus them, it's never guaranteed so be safe and try to engage them with an energy advantage or in a head-on where their weak airframes will barely be able to take more than a few shells.
* [[Spitfire F Mk 24]]/[[Spitfire F Mk 22|Mk 22]]. The High-octane Griffon Spitfires will dance in the sky and wreck you easily with their ludicrous performance. Although earlier Spitfires are easy prey for the Reggiane, the Griffons hold significant speed, acceleration and climb rate advantages over it. However, this performance comes at the cost of manoeuvrability, allowing the Re.2005 to successfully outturn them and shred them. Make sure to engage a Griffon Spitfire on your terms, lest to get sent back to the hangar in a blazing wreck.
* [[Spitfire LF Mk IX]]. These Spitfires are extremely dangerous, especially with their ability to easily out-turn and out-climb this fighter, despite your decent climb and turn rate. However, they can be easy prey if you use boom and zoom tactics against them. They have mediocre weaponry as they either only have 2 x Hispano Mk IIs and two pairs of 7.7 mm Brownings or one pair of Browning 50 cals. Dogfighting a "Spacefire" is considered suicidal as you cannot outrun them, the Re.2005 is relatively slow in comparison to this Spitfire.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Controllable Auto control available || Controllable Auto control available || Separate || Not controllable 1 gear || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Powerful armament layout with a large ammo capacity
* Spectacular manoeuvrability
* Great acceleration that can keep up with faster opponents
* Solid rate of climb
* Wide selection of underslung bombs for ground pounding
* Excellent mid-to-high altitude performance
* Above average energy retention
* Can perform amicably in any dogfighting situation
* Decently high dive speed
* Surprisingly sturdy airframe
* Above-average roll rate
* Control surfaces do not compress badly at high speeds

'''Cons:'''

* Relatively slow compared to some of its opponents
* Poor low altitude performance
* Max payloads have a significant effect on flight performance
* The large payloads encourage a flying style that puts the Re.2005 at its most vulnerable area (low altitude, no way to escape from opponents)
* Manoeuvrability decreases at low airspeed
* Wings are very susceptible to damage during manoeuvres

== History ==

It has been called "the most beautiful fighter aircraft of the war" and "aerodynamically perfect". The Re. 2005 was the final version of the basic Reggiane fighter design that began with the Re. 2000 in 1939. The third of the ''Serie 5'' third-generation Italian fighters designed to take the DB 605 engine, it had numerous improvements over the company's previous models. Test flights on the prototype began in April 1942, three weeks behind the third-generation M.C. 205 and nine days behind Fiat's G.55. But only 29 of the planned 750 were ever built. Operational service began in May 1943 with the 362nd Squadron in Sicily, and then ''Capua'', until the armistice. A few are known to have flown in battle for the German Luftwaffe over Berlin in the final days of the War in Europe.

=== [[wt:en/news/6343-development-reggiane-re-2005-the-winged-archer-en|Devblog]] ===
Being the last of the three Italian Serie 5 fighters to be introduced to the game, the Re.2005 is simply a must-have for avid fighter pilots, not only due to its excellent flight characteristics but also due to, let's be honest here, its absolutely stunning visual appearance too!

Having touched on the subject of the Re.2005's flight characteristics, these are best described as a middle ground between the Spitfire and Bf 109 fighters. The Sagittario manages to successfully combine superb top speeds and climb rates with tight turn times and sharp roll rates, making it an overall highly versatile fighter with no distinct disadvantages.

In other words, or numbers to be more specific, the Re.2005 can reach a maximum top speed of 650 km/h at an altitude of 7,000 m while retaining an average climb rate of about 21,2 m/s, thanks to its 1,475 horsepower V-12 inline engine. This makes it an ideal energy fighter in the early stages of an air battle, while it's very good agility will also allow it to pull its own weight in intense manoeuvring engagements as the battle progresses.

While you'd be forgiven for thinking that such promising flight characteristics must come at a price of offensive capabilities, the Re.2005 will spare no time in proving you wrong. In fact, the Sagittario is quite formidably armed with a pair of 12.7mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns, mounted underneath the engine cowling, in addition to three 20mm MG 151 cannons, with two being mounted in the wings and one installed through the propeller hub.

== Media ==


;Skins

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== See also ==


* [[Re.2001 (Family)]], the series of aircraft the Re.2005 was built off of

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6343-development-reggiane-re-2005-the-winged-archer-en|[Development] Reggiane Re.2005: The Winged Archer]]
* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/462481-re-2005/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]

{{AirManufacturer Reggiane}}
{{Italy fighters}}

File:Re.2005 Armor Schematic.png

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U70267797:

Armour diagram of the Re.2005 serie 0, corresponds to the list on the left

Ta 152 H-1

2021-10-08T03:59:38Z

U70267797: Undid revision 113161 by U44629479 (talk) As this edit contains useful information concerning the handling and performance of the aircraft, as well as how it should be flown

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


While the Ta 152 H-1 is the ultimate evolution of the Fw 190, the [[Ta 152 C-3]] takes the Fw 190's concepts to their limit. Don't be dissuaded however, the H-1 is a different beast altogether. Fast, manoeuvrable, and stable past 350 km/h, it is more nimble than most enemies at its BR, has a decent climb rate, short turn time (especially with landing flaps), and above average roll rate. The Ta 152 H-1 trades the incredible roll rate of the Fw 190 for a great energy retention and turnfighting ability. You will outclimb most competitors and will usually have an altitude advantage due to the interceptor airspawn.

[[File:Cockpit Ta152.jpg|x150px|right|thumb|none|Cockpit of the Ta 152]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,200 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 725 || 707 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.1 || 21.3 || 14.0 || 14.0 || rowspan="2" | 315
|-
! Upgraded
| 788 || 755 || 20.3 || 20.5 || 22.2 || 17.5
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 536 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 360 || < 220 || < 500 || > 320
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|2,000 m||1,740 hp||2,063 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|6,200 m||1,556 hp||1,842 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|9,100 m||1,299 hp||1,535 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 4
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|12,200 m||999 hp||1,376 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
[[File:Ta 152 H-1 armor schematic.png|thumb|404x404px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 H-1, corresponds to the list on the left]]


# 15 mm Steel - Engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm Steel - Oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm Steel - Angled ammunition and pilot armour
# 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 70 mm Angled bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
# 20 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
# 8 mm Steel + 5 mm Steel - Rear pilot shield
# 5 mm Steel - Fuel tank shield

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 108 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

The Ta-152 H-1 is a high altitude fighter with a wide wingspan and good manoeuvrability. Unlike its heavier cousin the [[Ta 152 C-3]], the H-1's best performance is reached when flying above 9,000 m (~30,000 ft) altitude as this is where the engine performs at maximum efficiency. A Ta 152 H-1 with altitude advantage is a deadly force to be reckoned with, having a great dive speed and energy retention, making it an efficient Hit and Run plane. With an interceptor airspawn, the climbing phase is shortened. However, the pilot must be aware of planes with a high climb rate like Spitfires or P-51s, as they can absolutely possess an altitude advantage at first contact, despite having to take off from the ground.

Even though the Ta 152 H-1 is an high altitude fighter, it can still perform at medium and low altitudes. Being quite manoeuvrable, it can do well in a dogfight against certain opponents, as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with combat flaps. However, some nimbler opponents will outmanoeuvre it easily if they possess an energy advantage. In these situations, it is best for the Ta 152 H-1 to use its primary strengths (speed, turning and manoeuvring energy retention; MER), to gain the upper hand. Do note you are not out of options when close to the ground as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with flaps. Another role for the Ta 152 H-1 is the interception of heavy bombers at high altitude. Even if the bomber is trying to escape, the Ta 152 H-1 will quickly catch up thanks to its powerful engine.

The armament of the Ta-152 H-1 is fairly powerful: the Minengeschoß-firing 30 mm MK 108 and 2 x 20 mm MG 151 have enough power to inflict heavy damage on most targets it will encounter. Though be aware that the MK 108 only has 90 rounds at its disposal and is most efficient at close range. Meanwhile, the two MG 151 have 175 rounds per gun for a total of 350 rounds, and can be used with much more liberty.

Enemies to be aware of in the Ta 152 H-1 are opponents such as the [[Spitfire F Mk 24]], [[F8F (Family)|F8F]], [[P-51H-5-NA]], [[F2G-1]] and [[Ki-84 (Family)|Ki-84]]. These foes can intercept and force the Ta 152 H-1 into dogfights on equal terms, trying to gain an energy or altitude advantage is key before engagement with these aircraft.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 5 gears || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact, and serves well in bomber interception
* Stable in all axes (joystick), and fairly nimble in a turn (mouse aim)
* Good armour layout protects both the pilot and engine, strong in head-ons
* GM-1 engine boost gives outstanding performance above 7,000 m, at these altitudes a good pilot can go head to head with any foe
* Combat flaps rip off at 700 km/h, which means you can use them at almost any speed
* Above average turnfighter for Germany, landing flaps increase turn so much that you can keep up with most fighters; even some Spitfires
* Has some of the best manoeuvring energy retention (MER) performance in the game, it will easily win a prolonged dogfight with good usage of flaps
* Excellent diver, wings only rip past 870 km/h (540 mph)
* Decently fast on the deck, can reach 580 km/h (360 mph) and will catch most enemies in a straight chase
* Very fast at high altitude (>7 km); at 12,200 m the Ta 152 H-1 will reach 755 km/h (469 mph), making it the fastest single engine German prop fighter

'''Cons:'''

* 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit
* Has a tendency to snap roll viciously, especially in a stall
* Very strong brakes, will easily flip over if not used sparingly, and is thus slower to land than most aircraft
* Losing your flaps through gunfire or otherwise is a massive detriment to turning performance and hampers your ability to dogfight effectively
* Despite having an above average roll rate, it is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
* Average climb rate, even with the airspawn it can be difficult to attain an altitude advantage over foes such as the Spitfire
* Below average ammo capacity, good trigger discipline is a must with the Ta 152 H
* Long wings increase chance of collision with enemy aircraft, especially in head-ons
* Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks due to wing surface area
* No external payload options or HVAP shells on the MK 108, making this strictly an air superiority plane

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude maneuverability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal center of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminum, steel spars were utilized aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152H variant

The Ta 152H-1 was refined to be more of a high-altitude fighter even so over the Ta 152C. Wings were extended a full length of 14.4 m (47.4 ft), though this lowered its overall speed, it provided substantial improvement with high-altitude handling. To aid the pilots in the higher altitude flights, the H variant was outfitted with a pressurized cockpit. The cockpit was pressurized to approximately a level comparable with 8,000 m (26,250 ft) and the canopy was comprised of two layers of which the outer was a thicker material with a thinner inner pane. To compensate for any moisture which could form between the panes, silica gel was added to aid in stemming any fogging. Unlike the 'C' variant, the 'H' only utilized a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub along with just two MG 151/20 mm autocannons, both of which were mounted in the upper fuselage. Eliminating the two wing-mounted cannons aided in increased maneuverability and less weight to make up for some of the additional weight added due to the pressurized cockpit system.

Overall the Ta 152H variant was one of the fastest piston-engine fighters to emerge during World War II, cruising around 750 km/h (465 mph) while at around 10,200 m (33,000 ft). The Ta 152H also employed the usage of GM-1 nitrous oxide boost and MW 50 methanol-water boost to briefly increase performance in the aircraft and if necessary, both could be applied at the same time.<ref name="Militaryfactory" />

=== In-game description ===
The Ta 152 was, without a doubt, the best aircraft designed by Kurt Tank for Focke-Wulf. The aircraft was a further redesign of the venerable Fw 190, namely of the Fw 190 D. The Ta 152 became possible thanks to the new high-altitude Jumo 213 and DB 603 engines.

Development began in the winter of 1942-1943, when RLM's technical department released specifications for a new 'Spezial Jaeger', or Special Fighter. The fighter was to be capable of a high-altitude interceptor role. The Ta 152 H-1 was armed with a MK 108 cannon with 85 rounds firing through the propeller hub and two MG 151/20 cannons (220 rounds per gun) in the wings. The H-1 went into serial production in January or February of 1945. A total of only 70 or so were produced, of which very few made it to front-line service.

== Media ==


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== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.ru/index.php?/topic/96066-ta-152-h1/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance (Russian Forum)]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 H-1

2021-10-05T23:59:39Z

U70267797: Clarified dogfighting techniques and flap usage; landing flaps give a great turning advantage, and the H-1 can hold its own against even Spitfires when getting the energy advantage

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 C-3
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152h-1
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


While the Ta 152 H-1 is the ultimate evolution of the Fw 190, the [[Ta 152 C-3]] takes the Fw 190's concepts to their limit. Don't be dissuaded however, the H-1 is a different beast altogether. Fast, manoeuvrable, and stable past 350 km/h, it is more nimble than most enemies at its BR, has a decent climb rate, short turn time (especially with landing flaps), and above average roll rate. The Ta 152 H-1 trades the incredible roll rate of the Fw 190 for a great energy retention and turnfighting ability. You will outclimb most competitors and will usually have an altitude advantage due to the interceptor airspawn.

[[File:Cockpit Ta152.jpg|x150px|right|thumb|none|Cockpit of the Ta 152]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,200 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 725 || 707 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.1 || 21.3 || 14.0 || 14.0 || rowspan="2" | 315
|-
! Upgraded
| 788 || 755 || 20.3 || 20.5 || 22.2 || 17.5
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 536 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 360 || < 220 || < 500 || > 320
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|2,000 m||1,740 hp||2,063 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|6,200 m||1,556 hp||1,842 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|9,100 m||1,299 hp||1,535 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 4
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|12,200 m||999 hp||1,376 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
[[File:Ta 152 H-1 armor schematic.png|thumb|404x404px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 H-1, corresponds to the list on the left]]


# 15 mm Steel - Engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm Steel - Oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm Steel - Angled ammunition and pilot armour
# 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 70 mm Angled bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
# 20 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
# 8 mm Steel + 5 mm Steel - Rear pilot shield
# 5 mm Steel - Fuel tank shield

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 108 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

The Ta-152 H-1 is a high altitude fighter with a wide wingspan and good manoeuvrability. Unlike its heavier cousin the [[Ta 152 C-3]], the H-1's best performance is reached when flying above 9,000 m (~30,000 ft) altitude as this is where the engine performs at maximum efficiency. A Ta 152 H-1 with altitude advantage is a deadly force to be reckoned with, having a great dive speed and energy retention, making it an efficient Hit and Run plane. With an interceptor airspawn, the climbing phase is shortened. However, the pilot must be aware of planes with a high climb rate like Spitfires or P-51s, as they can absolutely possess an altitude advantage at first contact, despite having to take off from the ground.

Even though the Ta 152 H-1 is an high altitude fighter, it can still perform at medium and low altitudes. Being quite manoeuvrable, it can do well in a dogfight against certain opponents, as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with combat flaps. However, some nimbler opponents will outmanoeuvre it easily if they possess an energy advantage. In these situations, it is best for the Ta 152 H-1 to use its primary strengths (speed, turning and manoeuvring energy retention; MER), to gain the upper hand. Do note you are not out of options when close to the ground as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with flaps. Another role for the Ta 152 H-1 is the interception of heavy bombers at high altitude. Even if the bomber is trying to escape, the Ta 152 H-1 will quickly catch up thanks to its powerful engine.

The armament of the Ta-152 H-1 is fairly powerful: the Minengeschoß-firing 30 mm MK 108 and 2 x 20 mm MG 151 have enough power to inflict heavy damage on most targets it will encounter. Though be aware that the MK 108 only has 90 rounds at its disposal and is most efficient at close range. Meanwhile, the two MG 151 have 175 rounds per gun for a total of 350 rounds, and can be used with much more liberty.

Enemies to be aware of in the Ta 152 H-1 are opponents such as the [[Spitfire F Mk 24]], [[F8F (Family)|F8F]], [[P-51H-5-NA]], [[F2G-1]] and [[Ki-84 (Family)|Ki-84]]. These foes can intercept and force the Ta 152 H-1 into dogfights on equal terms, trying to gain an energy or altitude advantage is key before engagement with these aircraft.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 5 gears || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact, and serves well in bomber interception
* Stable in all axes (joystick), and fairly nimble in a turn (mouse aim)
* Good armour layout protects both the pilot and engine, strong in head-ons
* GM-1 engine boost gives outstanding performance above 7,000 m, at these altitudes a good pilot can go head to head with any foe
* Combat flaps rip off at 700 km/h, which means you can use them at almost any speed
* Above average turnfighter for Germany, landing flaps increase turn so much that you can keep up with most fighters; even some Spitfires
* Has some of the best manoeuvring energy retention (MER) performance in the game, it will easily win a prolonged dogfight with good usage of flaps
* Excellent diver, wings only rip past 870 km/h (540 mph)
* Decently fast on the deck, can reach 580 km/h (360 mph) and will catch most enemies in a straight chase
* Very fast at high altitude (>7 km); at 12,200 m the Ta 152 H-1 will reach 755 km/h (469 mph), making it the fastest single engine German prop fighter

'''Cons:'''

* 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit
* Has a tendency to snap roll viciously, especially in a stall
* Very strong brakes, will easily flip over if not used sparingly, and is thus slower to land than most aircraft
* Losing your flaps through gunfire or otherwise is a massive detriment to turning performance and hampers your ability to dogfight effectively
* Despite having an above average roll rate, it is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
* Average climb rate, even with the airspawn it can be difficult to attain an altitude advantage over foes such as the Spitfire
* Below average ammo capacity, good trigger discipline is a must with the Ta 152 H
* Long wings increase chance of collision with enemy aircraft, especially in head-ons
* Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks due to wing surface area
* No external payload options or HVAP shells on the MK 108, making this strictly an air superiority plane

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude maneuverability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal center of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminum, steel spars were utilized aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152H variant

The Ta 152H-1 was refined to be more of a high-altitude fighter even so over the Ta 152C. Wings were extended a full length of 14.4 m (47.4 ft), though this lowered its overall speed, it provided substantial improvement with high-altitude handling. To aid the pilots in the higher altitude flights, the H variant was outfitted with a pressurized cockpit. The cockpit was pressurized to approximately a level comparable with 8,000 m (26,250 ft) and the canopy was comprised of two layers of which the outer was a thicker material with a thinner inner pane. To compensate for any moisture which could form between the panes, silica gel was added to aid in stemming any fogging. Unlike the 'C' variant, the 'H' only utilized a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub along with just two MG 151/20 mm autocannons, both of which were mounted in the upper fuselage. Eliminating the two wing-mounted cannons aided in increased maneuverability and less weight to make up for some of the additional weight added due to the pressurized cockpit system.

Overall the Ta 152H variant was one of the fastest piston-engine fighters to emerge during World War II, cruising around 750 km/h (465 mph) while at around 10,200 m (33,000 ft). The Ta 152H also employed the usage of GM-1 nitrous oxide boost and MW 50 methanol-water boost to briefly increase performance in the aircraft and if necessary, both could be applied at the same time.<ref name="Militaryfactory" />

=== In-game description ===
The Ta 152 was, without a doubt, the best aircraft designed by Kurt Tank for Focke-Wulf. The aircraft was a further redesign of the venerable Fw 190, namely of the Fw 190 D. The Ta 152 became possible thanks to the new high-altitude Jumo 213 and DB 603 engines.

Development began in the winter of 1942-1943, when RLM's technical department released specifications for a new 'Spezial Jaeger', or Special Fighter. The fighter was to be capable of a high-altitude interceptor role. The Ta 152 H-1 was armed with a MK 108 cannon with 85 rounds firing through the propeller hub and two MG 151/20 cannons (220 rounds per gun) in the wings. The H-1 went into serial production in January or February of 1945. A total of only 70 or so were produced, of which very few made it to front-line service.

== Media ==


;Skins

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== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.ru/index.php?/topic/96066-ta-152-h1/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance (Russian Forum)]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 H-1

2021-10-05T00:36:54Z

U70267797: Fixed formatting error

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 C-3
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152h-1
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


While the Ta 152 H-1 is the ultimate evolution of the Fw 190, the [[Ta 152 C-3]] takes the Fw 190's concepts to their limit. Don't be dissuaded however, the H-1 is a different beast altogether. Fast, manoeuvrable, and stable at >350 km/h, it is more nimble than most enemies at its BR, has a decent rate of climb, great turn time (especially with flaps), and above average roll rate. The Ta 152 H-1 trades the incredible roll rate of the Fw 190 line for great energy retention and turnfighting ability. You will outclimb most competitors and will usually have an altitude advantage due to the interceptor airspawn.

If you're going to play as an interceptor, just climb high and dive on bombers. Should you fly against fighters, do not neglect your combat flaps in dogfights.

[[File:Cockpit Ta152.jpg|x150px|right|thumb|none|Cockpit of the Ta 152]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,200 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 725 || 707 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.1 || 21.3 || 14.0 || 14.0 || rowspan="2" | 315
|-
! Upgraded
| 788 || 755 || 20.3 || 20.5 || 22.2 || 17.5
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 536 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 360 || < 220 || < 500 || > 320
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|2,000 m||1,740 hp||2,063 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|6,200 m||1,556 hp||1,842 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|9,100 m||1,299 hp||1,535 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 4
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|12,200 m||999 hp||1,376 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
[[File:Ta 152 H-1 armor schematic.png|thumb|404x404px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 H-1, corresponds to the list on the left]]


# 15 mm Steel - Engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm Steel - Oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm Steel - Angled ammunition and pilot armour
# 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 70 mm Angled bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
# 20 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
# 8 mm Steel + 5 mm Steel - Rear pilot shield
# 5 mm Steel - Fuel tank shield

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 108 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

The Ta-152 H-1 is a high altitude fighter with a wide wing span and good manoeuvrability. Unlike its heavier cousin the [[Ta 152 C-3]], the H-1's best performance is reached when flying in excess of 9 km (~30,000 ft) as this is where the engine performs at maximum efficiency. Ta 152 H-1's with altitude advantages are a deadly force to be reckoned with, having a great dive speed and energy retention, making it an efficient Hit and Run plane. With an interceptor airspawn, the average climb rate of 22 m/s (AB) and 17.5 m/s (RB) is somewhat nullified. However the pilot must be aware of planes with a climb rate in excess of 20 m/s (RB) such as Spitfires, or P-51s, as they can ''absolutely'' possess an altitude advantage at first contact, despite taking off from the ground.

Even though the Ta 152 H-1 is an high altitude fighter, it can still be a force to be reckoned with at medium and low altitudes. Being quite manoeuvrable it can do well in a dogfight if its forced into one against certain opponents, however against some opponents it will struggle with to dogfight against and is best for the Ta 152 H-1 to use its primary strengths. Its speed and manoeuvring energy retention (MER) combined with altitude advantages allow the plane to perform best against its foes. However, do note you are not out of options when close to the ground as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with flaps. Another strong role for the Ta 152 H-1 is that of intercepting of heavy bombers at high altitude. Even if the bomber is trying to escape, the Ta 152 H-1 will quickly catch up to them due to the power of its engine.

The armament of the Ta-152 H-1 is fairly powerful: the minengeschoß firing [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] and 2 x [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have enough power to inflict heavy damage on most targets it will encounter. Though be aware that the 30 mm [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] only has 90 rounds at its disposal and is most efficient at close range. Meanwhile, the two [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have 175 rounds per gun for a total of 350 rounds together, and can be used with much more liberty than the 30 mm.

Enemies to be aware of in the Ta 152 H-1 are opponents such as the [[Spitfire F Mk 24]], [[F8F (Family)|F8F]], [[P-51H-5-NA]], [[F2G-1]] and [[Ki-84 (Family)|Ki-84]]. These foes can intercept and force the Ta 152 H-1 into dogfights on equal terms, trying to gain an energy or altitude advantage is key before engagement with these aircraft.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 5 gears || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact, and serves well in bomber interception
* Stable in all axes (joystick), and fairly nimble in a turn (mouse aim)
* Good armour layout protects both the pilot and engine, strong in headons
* GM-1 engine boost gives outstanding performance above 7,000 m, at these altitudes a good pilot can go head to head with any foe
* Combat flaps rip off at 700 km/h, which means you can use them at almost any speed
* Above average turnfighter for Germany, landing flaps increase turn so much that you can keep up with most fighters; even some Spitfires
* Has some of the best manoeuvring energy retention (MER) performance in the game, it will easily win a prolonged dogfight with good usage of flaps
* Excellent diver, wings only rip past 870 km/h (540 mph)
* Decently fast on the deck, can reach 580 km/h (360 mph) and will catch most enemies in a straight chase
* Very fast at high altitude (>7 km); at 12,200 m the Ta 152 H-1 will reach 755 km/h (469 mph), making it the fastest single engine German prop fighter

'''Cons:'''

* 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit
* Has a tendency to snap roll viciously, especially in a stall
* Very strong brakes, will easily flip over if not used sparingly, and is thus slower to land than most aircraft
* Losing your flaps through gunfire or otherwise is a massive detriment to turning performance and hampers your ability to dogfight effectively
* Despite having an above average roll rate, it is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
* Average climb rate, even with the airspawn it can be difficult to attain an altitude advantage over foes such as the Spitfire
* Below average ammo capacity, good trigger discipline is a must with the Ta 152 H
* Long wings increase chance of collision with enemy aircraft, especially in headons
* Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks due to wing surface area
* No external payload options or HVAP shells on the MK 108, making this strictly an air superiority plane

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude maneuverability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal center of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminum, steel spars were utilized aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152H variant

The Ta 152H-1 was refined to be more of a high-altitude fighter even so over the Ta 152C. Wings were extended a full length of 14.4 m (47.4 ft), though this lowered its overall speed, it provided substantial improvement with high-altitude handling. To aid the pilots in the higher altitude flights, the H variant was outfitted with a pressurized cockpit. The cockpit was pressurized to approximately a level comparable with 8,000 m (26,250 ft) and the canopy was comprised of two layers of which the outer was a thicker material with a thinner inner pane. To compensate for any moisture which could form between the panes, silica gel was added to aid in stemming any fogging. Unlike the 'C' variant, the 'H' only utilized a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub along with just two MG 151/20 mm autocannons, both of which were mounted in the upper fuselage. Eliminating the two wing-mounted cannons aided in increased maneuverability and less weight to make up for some of the additional weight added due to the pressurized cockpit system.

Overall the Ta 152H variant was one of the fastest piston-engine fighters to emerge during World War II, cruising around 750 km/h (465 mph) while at around 10,200 m (33,000 ft). The Ta 152H also employed the usage of GM-1 nitrous oxide boost and MW 50 methanol-water boost to briefly increase performance in the aircraft and if necessary, both could be applied at the same time.<ref name="Militaryfactory" />

=== In-game description ===
The Ta 152 was, without a doubt, the best aircraft designed by Kurt Tank for Focke-Wulf. The aircraft was a further redesign of the venerable Fw 190, namely of the Fw 190 D. The Ta 152 became possible thanks to the new high-altitude Jumo 213 and DB 603 engines.

Development began in the winter of 1942-1943, when RLM's technical department released specifications for a new 'Spezial Jaeger', or Special Fighter. The fighter was to be capable of a high-altitude interceptor role. The Ta 152 H-1 was armed with a MK 108 cannon with 85 rounds firing through the propeller hub and two MG 151/20 cannons (220 rounds per gun) in the wings. The H-1 went into serial production in January or February of 1945. A total of only 70 or so were produced, of which very few made it to front-line service.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ta-152h-1 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
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== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.ru/index.php?/topic/96066-ta-152-h1/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance (Russian Forum)]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 C-3

2021-10-05T00:35:12Z

U70267797: Fixed grammatical error

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 H-1
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.57 "Battle March"]].

The Ta 152 C-3 should be considered the pinnacle of the Dora 190s, evolving their concept to an extreme. This plane was designed for mid altitude combat, with a re-designed short wing similar to that of the late 190 series, such as the [[Fw 190 D-13]]. With its Daimler-Benz DB 603 engine, gaining speed and altitude is the first priority in this aircraft. Second is heavy usage of Boom and Zoom tactics, especially on heavily armed strategic bombers like the [[B-17 (Family)|B-17 Flying Fortress]]. With its armament of four MG-151 20 mm cannons (two in the wing roots, two in the cowling), and a MK-103 cannon firing through the propeller hub, trigger discipline is a must to take down as many aircraft as you can with the ammunition on board. However, it can be pushed to turn tight in a pinch with a rather small amount of energy lost by using the flaps. The flaps are extremely strong and they deploy quickly, even at higher speeds (though it is not advisable to do this unless the situation is just right).

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,400 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 703 || 681 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.2 || 29.2 || 9.7 || 9.7 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 759 || 730 || 25.8 || 27.0 || 17.1 || 13.1
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 591 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 420 || < 240 || < 500 || > 290
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 8,990 m || 1,750 hp || 1,921 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
[[File:Ta152C armor schematic.png|thumb|500x700px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 C-3, corresponds to the list on the left]]


# 15 mm Steel - Engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm Steel - Oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm Steel - Angled ammunition and pilot armour
# 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 15 mm Steel - Pilot Armour
# 70 mm Angled bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
# 20 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
# 8 mm Steel + 5 mm Steel - Rear pilot shield
# 5 mm Steel - Fuel tank shield

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 103 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, nose-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

Currently the Ta 152 C-3 does not carry any under-wing ordnance, but it can perform rather lethal ground-pounding with its [[MK 103 (30 mm)]] cannon, if it is loaded with armoured target rounds (HVAP). Although, one must aim carefully and have good trigger discipline to knock out tanks, lest too many shells be wasted on a single vehicle. But for its intended role of air superiority, the combination of [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 151]] 20 mm cannons plus the aforementioned MK 103 is lethal against any aircraft in the game. However, the stock belts can be a bit of a pain to use, as half of the load are not the infamous German minengeschoße (HE-IT).

The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.

* Prioritize enemies with multiple engines first, like bombers, attackers and heavy fighters above anything else
* Only engage enemy fighters when they are distracted at something else or if you have the advantage or when there are no other targets in your vicinity
* Despite being heavily armoured, you are not invincible, head on engagements eventually will take the toll on your plane, so fight smart by firing first when you are around 1.2km away and immediately roll or bank to dodge their bullets
* Although it is tempting, engaging ground units should be the least of your priorities unless there are no other targets nearby
* HVAP shells can destroy AI light tanks in one hit from any direction, medium tanks will need to be shot from above or the rear and heavy tanks are just a waste of ammo
* 30mm Minengeschoß rounds deal a lot of damage, use it sparingly with the 20mm
* The 20mm and the 30mm have different ballistics, control mappings to each caliber is recommended
* When you have a determined enemy on your tail, there is little you can do except to wait for allies to come and help, do not let it happen
* Use your incredible roll rate to escape from sticky situations

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 1 gear || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Powerful armament of five cannons with a lot of ammo.
* Nose mounted armament allows very tight spread of shells when firing.
* Does not slow down that much when firing all its guns.
* Durable and well armoured, both pilot and engine are protected.
* Very effective bomber killer.
* Armour is enough to deflect machine gun rounds from bombers' gunners.
* Incredibly strong at head-on engagements and will often survive unharmed or with minor damage.
* Effective flaps offset the poor turn rate, landing flaps allow this plane to keep up with some nimbler fighters.
* Decent energy retention, although not as good as the H-1 model.
* Great roll rate, better than the H-1 model.
* Very good performance when operating from low to mid altitude.
* Incredible dive performance, better than the H-1 model due to stronger, shorter wings which only rip at 915 km/h (570 mph).
* Can perform a tank-buster role despite not having bombs or rockets due to the high velocity 30mm AP belt.
* Can immediately research the 20 mm and 30 mm belts.

'''Cons:'''

* Average rate of climb for an interceptor, but it will keep up with the H-1 model.
* Slow, coupled with average rate of climb makes it an easy target after conducting a boom and zoom attack.
* Worst turn rate of all Kurt Tank fighters in the game, even worse than the already bad Fw 190 series.
* Poor high altitude performance.
* Easy to counter and has few options of escape when chased.
* Wings and fuselage are littered with fuel tanks, although they are self sealing.
* Stock performance is awful.
* Feels heavier and more sluggish to fly than the H-1 model.
* Engine often overheats above 3,500 m.

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude manoeuvrability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal centre of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminium, steel spars were utilised aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ta-152c Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
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== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/303488-focke-wulf-ta-152-c-3/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 H-1

2021-10-05T00:33:33Z

U70267797: Fixed grammar error

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 C-3
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152h-1
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


While the Ta 152 H-1 is the ultimate evolution of the Fw 190, the [[Ta 152 C-3]] takes the Fw 190's concepts to their limit. Don't be dissuaded however, the H-1 is a different beast altogether. Fast, manoeuvrable, and stable at >350 km/h, it is more nimble than most enemies at its BR, has a decent rate of climb, great turn time (especially with flaps), and above average roll rate. The Ta 152 H-1 trades the incredible roll rate of the Fw 190 line for great energy retention and turnfighting ability. You will outclimb most competitors and will usually have an altitude advantage due to the interceptor airspawn.

If you're going to play as an interceptor, just climb high and dive on bombers. Should you fly against fighters, do not neglect your combat flaps in dogfights.

[[File:Cockpit Ta152.jpg|x150px|right|thumb|none|Cockpit of the Ta 152]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,200 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 725 || 707 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.1 || 21.3 || 14.0 || 14.0 || rowspan="2" | 315
|-
! Upgraded
| 788 || 755 || 20.3 || 20.5 || 22.2 || 17.5
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 536 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 360 || < 220 || < 500 || > 320
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|2,000 m||1,740 hp||2,063 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|6,200 m||1,556 hp||1,842 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|9,100 m||1,299 hp||1,535 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 4
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|12,200 m||999 hp||1,376 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
[[File:Ta 152 H-1 armor schematic.png|thumb|404x404px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 H-1, corresponds to the list on the left]]


# 15 mm Steel - Engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm Steel - Oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm Steel - Angled ammunition and pilot armour
# 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 70 mm Angled bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
# 20 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
# 8 mm Steel + 5 mm Steel - Rear pilot shield
# 5 mm Steel - Fuel tank shield

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 108 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

The Ta-152 H-1 is a high altitude fighter with a wide wing span and good manoeuvrability. Unlike its heavier cousin the [[Ta 152 C-3]], the H-1's best performance is reached when flying in excess of 9 km (~30,000 ft) as this is where the engine performs at maximum efficiency. Ta 152 H-1's with altitude advantages are a deadly force to be reckoned with, having a great dive speed and energy retention, making it an efficient Hit and Run plane. With an interceptor airspawn, the average climb rate of 22 m/s (AB) and 17.5 m/s (RB) is somewhat nullified. However the pilot must be aware of planes with a climb rate in excess of 20 m/s (RB) such as Spitfires, or P-51s, as they can ''absolutely'' possess an altitude advantage at first contact, despite taking off from the ground.

Even though the Ta 152 H-1 is an high altitude fighter, it can still be a force to be reckoned with at medium and low altitudes. Being quite manoeuvrable it can do well in a dogfight if its forced into one against certain opponents, however against some opponents it will struggle with to dogfight against and is best for the Ta 152 H-1 to use its primary strengths. Its speed and manoeuvring energy retention (MER) combined with altitude advantages allow the plane to perform best against its foes. However, do note you are not out of options when close to the ground as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with flaps. Another strong role for the Ta 152 H-1 is that of intercepting of heavy bombers at high altitude. Even if the bomber is trying to escape, the Ta 152 H-1 will quickly catch up to them due to the power of its engine.

The armament of the Ta-152 H-1 is fairly powerful: the minengeschoß firing [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] and 2 x [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have enough power to inflict heavy damage on most targets it will encounter. Though be aware that the 30 mm [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] only has 90 rounds at its disposal and is most efficient at close range. Meanwhile, the two [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have 175 rounds per gun for a total of 350 rounds together, and can be used with much more liberty than the 30 mm.

Enemies to be aware of in the Ta 152 H-1 are opponents such as the [[Spitfire F Mk 24]], [[F8F (Family)|F8F]], [[P-51H-5-NA]], [[F2G-1]] and [[Ki-84 (Family)|Ki-84]]. These foes can intercept and force the Ta 152 H-1 into dogfights on equal terms, trying to gain an energy or altitude advantage is key before engagement with these aircraft.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 5 gears || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact, and serves well in bomber interception
* Stable in all axes (joystick), and fairly nimble in a turn (mouse aim)
* Good armour layout protects both the pilot and engine, strong in headons
* GM-1 engine boost gives outstanding performance above 7,000 m, at these altitudes a good pilot can go head to head with any foe
* Combat flaps rip off at 700 km/h, which means you can use them at almost any speed
* Above average turnfighter for Germany, landing flaps increase turn so much that you can keep up with most fighters; even some Spitfires
* Has some of the best manoeuvring energy retention (MER) performance in the game, it will easily win a prolonged dogfight with good usage of flaps
* Excellent diver, wings only rip past 870 km/h (540 mph)
* Decently fast on the deck, can reach 580 km/h (360 mph) and will catch most enemies in a straight chase
* Very fast at high altitude (>7 km); at 12,200 m the Ta 152 H-1 will reach 755 km/h (469 mph), making it the fastest single engine German prop fighter

'''Cons:'''

* 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit
* Has a tendency to snap roll viciously, especially in a stall
* Very strong brakes, will easily flip over if not used sparingly, and is thus slower to land than most aircraft
* Losing your flaps through gunfire or otherwise is a massive detriment to turning performance and hampers your ability to dogfight effectively
* Despite having an above average roll rate, it is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
* Average climb rate, even with the airspawn it can be difficult to attain an altitude advantage over foes such as the Spitfire
* Below average ammo capacity, good trigger discipline is a must with the Ta 152 H
* Long wings increase chance of collision with enemy aircraft, especially in headons
* Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks due to wing surface area
* No external payload options or HVAP shells on the MK 108, making this strictly an air superiority plane

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude maneuverability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal center of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminum, steel spars were utilized aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152H variant

The Ta 152H-1 was refined to be more of a high-altitude fighter even so over the Ta 152C. Wings were extended a full length of 14.4 m (47.4 ft), though this lowered its overall speed, it provided substantial improvement with high-altitude handling. To aid the pilots in the higher altitude flights, the H variant was outfitted with a pressurized cockpit. The cockpit was pressurized to approximately a level comparable with 8,000 m (26,250 ft) and the canopy was comprised of two layers of which the outer was a thicker material with a thinner inner pane. To compensate for any moisture which could form between the panes, silica gel was added to aid in stemming any fogging. Unlike the 'C' variant, the 'H' only utilized a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub along with just two MG 151/20 mm autocannons, both of which were mounted in the upper fuselage. Eliminating the two wing-mounted cannons aided in increased maneuverability and less weight to make up for some of the additional weight added due to the pressurized cockpit system.

Overall the Ta 152H variant was one of the fastest piston-engine fighters to emerge during World War II, cruising around 750 km/h (465 mph) while at around 10,200 m (33,000 ft). The Ta 152H also employed the usage of GM-1 nitrous oxide boost and MW 50 methanol-water boost to briefly increase performance in the aircraft and if necessary, both could be applied at the same time.<ref name="Militaryfactory" />

=== In-game description ===
The Ta 152 was, without a doubt, the best aircraft designed by Kurt Tank for Focke-Wulf. The aircraft was a further redesign of the venerable Fw 190, namely of the Fw 190 D. The Ta 152 became possible thanks to the new high-altitude Jumo 213 and DB 603 engines.

Development began in the winter of 1942-1943, when RLM's technical department released specifications for a new 'Spezial Jaeger', or Special Fighter. The fighter was to be capable of a high-altitude interceptor role. The Ta 152 H-1 was armed with a MK 108 cannon with 85 rounds firing through the propeller hub and two MG 151/20 cannons (220 rounds per gun) in the wings. The H-1 went into serial production in January or February of 1945. A total of only 70 or so were produced, of which very few made it to front-line service.

== Media ==


;Skins

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== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.ru/index.php?/topic/96066-ta-152-h1/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance (Russian Forum)]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 C-3

2021-09-25T23:15:57Z

U70267797: I was wrong, the Ta 152 C-3 does in fact have combat flaps. I was thrown off by a prior section which claimed it did not, and have since corrected that

{{About
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| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 H-1
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{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.57 "Battle March"]].

The Ta 152 C-3 should be considered the pinnacle of the Dora 190s, evolving their concept to an extreme; this plane was designed for mid altitude combat, with a re-designed short wing similar to that of the late 190 series, such as the [[Fw 190 D-13]]. With its Daimler-Benz DB 603 engine, gaining speed and altitude is the first priority in this aircraft. Second is heavy usage of Boom and Zoom tactics, especially on heavily armed strategic bombers like the [[B-17 (Family)|B-17 Flying Fortress]]. With its armament of four MG-151 20 mm cannons (two in the wing roots, two in the cowling), and a MK-103 cannon firing through the propeller hub, trigger discipline is a must to take down as many aircraft as you can with the ammunition on board. However, it can be pushed to turn tight in a pinch with a rather small amount of energy lost by using the flaps. The flaps are extremely strong and they deploy quickly, even at higher speeds (though it is not advisable to do this unless the situation is just right).

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,400 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 703 || 681 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.2 || 29.2 || 9.7 || 9.7 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 759 || 730 || 25.8 || 27.0 || 17.1 || 13.1
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 591 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 420 || < 240 || < 500 || > 290
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 8,990 m || 1,750 hp || 1,921 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
[[File:Ta152C armor schematic.png|thumb|500x700px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 C-3, corresponds to the list on the left]]


# 15 mm Steel - Engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm Steel - Oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm Steel - Angled ammunition and pilot armour
# 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 15 mm Steel - Pilot Armour
# 70 mm Angled bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
# 20 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
# 8 mm Steel + 5 mm Steel - Rear pilot shield
# 5 mm Steel - Fuel tank shield

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 103 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, nose-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

Currently the Ta 152 C-3 does not carry any under-wing ordnance, but it can perform rather lethal ground-pounding with its [[MK 103 (30 mm)]] cannon, if it is loaded with armoured target rounds (HVAP). Although, one must aim carefully and have good trigger discipline to knock out tanks, lest too many shells be wasted on a single vehicle. But for its intended role of air superiority, the combination of [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 151]] 20 mm cannons plus the aforementioned MK 103 is lethal against any aircraft in the game. However, the stock belts can be a bit of a pain to use, as half of the load are not the infamous German minengeschoße (HE-IT).

The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.

* Prioritize enemies with multiple engines first, like bombers, attackers and heavy fighters above anything else
* Only engage enemy fighters when they are distracted at something else or if you have the advantage or when there are no other targets in your vicinity
* Despite being heavily armoured, you are not invincible, head on engagements eventually will take the toll on your plane, so fight smart by firing first when you are around 1.2km away and immediately roll or bank to dodge their bullets
* Although it is tempting, engaging ground units should be the least of your priorities unless there are no other targets nearby
* HVAP shells can destroy AI light tanks in one hit from any direction, medium tanks will need to be shot from above or the rear and heavy tanks are just a waste of ammo
* 30mm Minengeschoß rounds deal a lot of damage, use it sparingly with the 20mm
* The 20mm and the 30mm have different ballistics, control mappings to each caliber is recommended
* When you have a determined enemy on your tail, there is little you can do except to wait for allies to come and help, do not let it happen
* Use your incredible roll rate to escape from sticky situations

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 1 gear || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Powerful armament of five cannons with a lot of ammo.
* Nose mounted armament allows very tight spread of shells when firing.
* Does not slow down that much when firing all its guns.
* Durable and well armoured, both pilot and engine are protected.
* Very effective bomber killer.
* Armour is enough to deflect machine gun rounds from bombers' gunners.
* Incredibly strong at head-on engagements and will often survive unharmed or with minor damage.
* Effective flaps offset the poor turn rate, landing flaps allow this plane to keep up with some nimbler fighters.
* Decent energy retention, although not as good as the H-1 model.
* Great roll rate, better than the H-1 model.
* Very good performance when operating from low to mid altitude.
* Incredible dive performance, better than the H-1 model due to stronger, shorter wings which only rip at 915 km/h (570 mph).
* Can perform a tank-buster role despite not having bombs or rockets due to the high velocity 30mm AP belt.
* Can immediately research the 20 mm and 30 mm belts.

'''Cons:'''

* Average rate of climb for an interceptor, but it will keep up with the H-1 model.
* Slow, coupled with average rate of climb makes it an easy target after conducting a boom and zoom attack.
* Worst turn rate of all Kurt Tank fighters in the game, even worse than the already bad Fw 190 series.
* Poor high altitude performance.
* Easy to counter and has few options of escape when chased.
* Wings and fuselage are littered with fuel tanks, although they are self sealing.
* Stock performance is awful.
* Feels heavier and more sluggish to fly than the H-1 model.
* Engine often overheats above 3,500 m.

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude manoeuvrability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal centre of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminium, steel spars were utilised aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ta-152c Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
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== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/303488-focke-wulf-ta-152-c-3/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 C-3

2021-09-23T16:41:32Z

U70267797: The Ta 152 C-3 does not have combat flaps

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 H-1
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.57 "Battle March"]].

The Ta 152 C-3 should be considered the pinnacle of the Dora 190s, evolving their concept to an extreme; this plane was designed for mid altitude combat, with a re-designed short wing similar to that of the late 190 series, such as the [[Fw 190 D-13]]. With its Daimler-Benz DB 603 engine, gaining speed and altitude is the first priority in this aircraft. Second is heavy usage of Boom and Zoom tactics, especially on heavily armed strategic bombers like the [[B-17 (Family)|B-17 Flying Fortress]]. With its armament of four MG-151 20 mm cannons (two in the wing roots, two in the cowling), and a MK-103 cannon firing through the propeller hub, trigger discipline is a must to take down as many aircraft as you can with the ammunition on board. However, it can be pushed to turn tight in a pinch with a rather small amount of energy lost by using the flaps, and despite not having a proper combat flap setting. The flaps are extremely strong and they deploy quickly, even at higher speeds (though it is not advisable to do this unless the situation is just right).

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,400 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 703 || 681 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.2 || 29.2 || 9.7 || 9.7 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 759 || 730 || 25.8 || 27.0 || 17.1 || 13.1
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| X || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 591 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 420 || < 240 || < 500 || > 290
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 8,990 m || 1,750 hp || 1,921 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
[[File:Ta152C armor schematic.png|thumb|500x700px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 C-3, corresponds to the list on the left]]


# 15 mm Steel - Engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm Steel - Oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm Steel - Angled ammunition and pilot armour
# 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 15 mm Steel - Pilot Armour
# 70 mm Angled bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
# 20 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
# 8 mm Steel + 5 mm Steel - Rear pilot shield
# 5 mm Steel - Fuel tank shield

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 103 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, nose-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

Currently the Ta 152 C-3 does not carry any under-wing ordnance, but it can perform rather lethal ground-pounding with its [[MK 103 (30 mm)]] cannon, if it is loaded with armoured target rounds (HVAP). Although, one must aim carefully and have good trigger discipline to knock out tanks, lest too many shells be wasted on a single vehicle. But for its intended role of air superiority, the combination of [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 151]] 20 mm cannons plus the aforementioned MK 103 is lethal against any aircraft in the game. However, the stock belts can be a bit of a pain to use, as half of the load are not the infamous German minengeschoße (HE-IT).

The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.

* Prioritize enemies with multiple engines first, like bombers, attackers and heavy fighters above anything else
* Only engage enemy fighters when they are distracted at something else or if you have the advantage or when there are no other targets in your vicinity
* Despite being heavily armoured, you are not invincible, head on engagements eventually will take the toll on your plane, so fight smart by firing first when you are around 1.2km away and immediately roll or bank to dodge their bullets
* Although it is tempting, engaging ground units should be the least of your priorities unless there are no other targets nearby
* HVAP shells can destroy AI light tanks in one hit from any direction, medium tanks will need to be shot from above or the rear and heavy tanks are just a waste of ammo
* 30mm Minengeschoß rounds deal a lot of damage, use it sparingly with the 20mm
* The 20mm and the 30mm have different ballistics, control mappings to each caliber is recommended
* When you have a determined enemy on your tail, there is little you can do except to wait for allies to come and help, do not let it happen;
* Use your incredible roll rate to escape from sticky situations

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 1 gear || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Powerful armament of five cannons with a lot of ammo.
* Nose mounted armament allows very tight spread of shells when firing.
* Does not slow down that much when firing all its guns.
* Durable and well armoured, both pilot and engine are protected.
* Very effective bomber killer.
* Armour is enough to deflect machine gun rounds from bombers' gunners.
* Incredibly strong at head-on engagements and will often survive unharmed or with minor damage.
* Effective flaps offset the poor turn rate, landing flaps allow this plane to keep up with some fighters.
* Decent energy retention, although not as good as the H-1 model.
* Great roll rate, better than the H-1 model.
* Very good performance when operating from low to mid altitude.
* Incredible dive performance, better than the H-1 model due to stronger, shorter wings which only rip at 915 km/h (570 mph).
* Can perform a tank-buster role despite not having bombs or rockets due to the high velocity 30mm AP belt.
* Can immediately research the 20 mm and 30 mm belts.

'''Cons:'''

* Average rate of climb for an interceptor, but it will keep up with the H-1 model.
* Slow, coupled with average rate of climb makes it an easy target after conducting a boom and zoom attack.
* Worst turn rate of all Kurt Tank fighters in the game, even worse than the already bad Fw 190 series.
* Poor high altitude performance.
* Easy to counter and has few options of escape when chased.
* Wings and fuselage are littered with fuel tanks, although they are self sealing.
* Stock performance is awful.
* Feels heavier and more sluggish to fly than the H-1 model.
* Engine often overheats above 3,500 m.

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude manoeuvrability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal centre of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminium, steel spars were utilised aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ta-152c Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|d5k2T9FP0bQ|'''Avoid them in frontal attack!''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 1:39 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|4v3fxupuZPA|'''Last piston fighters''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 2:39 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|hN38Hj_F9sU|'''War Thunder Realistic: Ta 152 C-3 [Battlestar Galactica!]''' - ''Jengar''|iKTe9p-Awhw|'''Ta 152 C-3 - I Can't Let It Go Like That!''' - ''Napalmratte''|nxQfEs1DfAQ|'''Ta 152 C3 - 1 Vs 1 - Tactics and strategies''' - ''Green Fury''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/303488-focke-wulf-ta-152-c-3/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 C-3

2021-09-23T16:36:15Z

U70267797: Fixed grammatical error

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 H-1
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.57 "Battle March"]].

The Ta 152 C-3 should be considered the pinnacle of the Dora 190s, evolving their concept to an extreme; this plane was designed for mid altitude combat, with a re-designed short wing similar to that of the late 190 series, such as the [[Fw 190 D-13]]. With its Daimler-Benz DB 603 engine, gaining speed and altitude is the first priority in this aircraft. Second is heavy usage of Boom and Zoom tactics, especially on heavily armed strategic bombers like the [[B-17 (Family)|B-17 Flying Fortress]]. With its armament of four MG-151 20 mm cannons (two in the wing roots, two in the cowling), and a MK-103 cannon firing through the propeller hub, trigger discipline is a must to take down as many aircraft as you can with the ammunition on board. However, it can be pushed to turn tight in a pinch with a rather small amount of energy lost by using the flaps, and despite not having a proper combat flap setting. The flaps are extremely strong and they deploy quickly, even at higher speeds (though it is not advisable to do this unless the situation is just right).

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,400 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 703 || 681 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.2 || 29.2 || 9.7 || 9.7 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 759 || 730 || 25.8 || 27.0 || 17.1 || 13.1
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 591 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 420 || < 240 || < 500 || > 290
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 8,990 m || 1,750 hp || 1,921 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
[[File:Ta152C armor schematic.png|thumb|500x700px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 C-3, corresponds to the list on the left]]


# 15 mm Steel - Engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm Steel - Oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm Steel - Angled ammunition and pilot armour
# 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 15 mm Steel - Pilot Armour
# 70 mm Angled bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
# 20 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
# 8 mm Steel + 5 mm Steel - Rear pilot shield
# 5 mm Steel - Fuel tank shield

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 103 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, nose-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

Currently the Ta 152 C-3 does not carry any under-wing ordnance, but it can perform rather lethal ground-pounding with its [[MK 103 (30 mm)]] cannon, if it is loaded with armoured target rounds (HVAP). Although, one must aim carefully and have good trigger discipline to knock out tanks, lest too many shells be wasted on a single vehicle. But for its intended role of air superiority, the combination of [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 151]] 20 mm cannons plus the aforementioned MK 103 is lethal against any aircraft in the game. However, the stock belts can be a bit of a pain to use, as half of the load are not the infamous German minengeschoße (HE-IT).

The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.

* Prioritize enemies with multiple engines first, like bombers, attackers and heavy fighters above anything else
* Only engage enemy fighters when they are distracted at something else or if you have the advantage or when there are no other targets in your vicinity
* Despite being heavily armoured, you are not invincible, head on engagements eventually will take the toll on your plane, so fight smart by firing first when you are around 1.2km away and immediately roll or bank to dodge their bullets
* Although it is tempting, engaging ground units should be the least of your priorities unless there are no other targets nearby
* HVAP shells can destroy AI light tanks in one hit from any direction, medium tanks will need to be shot from above or the rear and heavy tanks are just a waste of ammo
* 30mm Minengeschoß rounds deal a lot of damage, use it sparingly with the 20mm
* The 20mm and the 30mm have different ballistics, control mappings to each caliber is recommended
* When you have a determined enemy on your tail, there is little you can do except to wait for allies to come and help, do not let it happen;
* Use your incredible roll rate to escape from sticky situations

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 1 gear || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Powerful armament of five cannons with a lot of ammo.
* Nose mounted armament allows very tight spread of shells when firing.
* Does not slow down that much when firing all its guns.
* Durable and well armoured, both pilot and engine are protected.
* Very effective bomber killer.
* Armour is enough to deflect machine gun rounds from bombers' gunners.
* Incredibly strong at head-on engagements and will often survive unharmed or with minor damage.
* Effective flaps offset the poor turn rate, landing flaps allow this plane to keep up with some fighters.
* Decent energy retention, although not as good as the H-1 model.
* Great roll rate, better than the H-1 model.
* Very good performance when operating from low to mid altitude.
* Incredible dive performance, better than the H-1 model due to stronger, shorter wings which only rip at 915 km/h (570 mph).
* Can perform a tank-buster role despite not having bombs or rockets due to the high velocity 30mm AP belt.
* Can immediately research the 20 mm and 30 mm belts.

'''Cons:'''

* Average rate of climb for an interceptor, but it will keep up with the H-1 model.
* Slow, coupled with average rate of climb makes it an easy target after conducting a boom and zoom attack.
* Worst turn rate of all Kurt Tank fighters in the game, even worse than the already bad Fw 190 series.
* Poor high altitude performance.
* Easy to counter and has few options of escape when chased.
* Wings and fuselage are littered with fuel tanks, although they are self sealing.
* Stock performance is awful.
* Feels heavier and more sluggish to fly than the H-1 model.
* Engine often overheats above 3,500 m.

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude manoeuvrability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal centre of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminium, steel spars were utilised aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ta-152c Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|d5k2T9FP0bQ|'''Avoid them in frontal attack!''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 1:39 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|4v3fxupuZPA|'''Last piston fighters''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 2:39 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|hN38Hj_F9sU|'''War Thunder Realistic: Ta 152 C-3 [Battlestar Galactica!]''' - ''Jengar''|iKTe9p-Awhw|'''Ta 152 C-3 - I Can't Let It Go Like That!''' - ''Napalmratte''|nxQfEs1DfAQ|'''Ta 152 C3 - 1 Vs 1 - Tactics and strategies''' - ''Green Fury''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/303488-focke-wulf-ta-152-c-3/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 C-3

2021-09-23T16:35:23Z

U70267797: Removed link to B-29 and replaced it with B-17 as the Ta 152 C-3 can no longer face it in battles due to BR changes

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 H-1
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.57 "Battle March"]].

The Ta 152 C-3 should be considered the pinnacle of the Dora 190s, evolving their concept to an extreme; this plane was designed for mid altitude combat, with a re-designed short wing similar to that of the late 190 series, such as the [[Fw 190 D-13]]. With its Daimler-Benz DB 603 engine, gaining speed and altitude is the first priority in this aircraft. Second is heavy usage of Boom and Zoom tactics, especially on heavily armed strategic bombers like the [[B-17 (Family)|B-17 Flying Fortress]]. With its armament of four MG-151 20 mm cannons (two in the wing roots, two in the cowling), and a MK-103 cannon firing through the propeller hub, trigger discipline is a must to take down as many aircraft as you can with the ammunition on board. However, it can be pushed to turn tight in a pinch with a rather small amount of energy lost by using the flaps, and despite not having a proper combat flap setting. The flaps are extremely strong and they deploy quickly, even at higher speeds (though it is not advisable to do this unless the situation is just right).

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,400 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 703 || 681 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.2 || 29.2 || 9.7 || 9.7 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 759 || 730 || 25.8 || 27.0 || 17.1 || 13.1
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 591 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 420 || < 240 || < 500 || > 290
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 8,990 m || 1,750 hp || 1,921 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
[[File:Ta152C armor schematic.png|thumb|500x700px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 H-1, corresponds to the list on the left]]


# 15 mm Steel - Engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm Steel - Oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm Steel - Angled ammunition and pilot armour
# 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 15 mm Steel - Pilot Armour
# 70 mm Angled bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
# 20 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
# 8 mm Steel + 5 mm Steel - Rear pilot shield
# 5 mm Steel - Fuel tank shield

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 103 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, nose-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

Currently the Ta 152 C-3 does not carry any under-wing ordnance, but it can perform rather lethal ground-pounding with its [[MK 103 (30 mm)]] cannon, if it is loaded with armoured target rounds (HVAP). Although, one must aim carefully and have good trigger discipline to knock out tanks, lest too many shells be wasted on a single vehicle. But for its intended role of air superiority, the combination of [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 151]] 20 mm cannons plus the aforementioned MK 103 is lethal against any aircraft in the game. However, the stock belts can be a bit of a pain to use, as half of the load are not the infamous German minengeschoße (HE-IT).

The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.

* Prioritize enemies with multiple engines first, like bombers, attackers and heavy fighters above anything else
* Only engage enemy fighters when they are distracted at something else or if you have the advantage or when there are no other targets in your vicinity
* Despite being heavily armoured, you are not invincible, head on engagements eventually will take the toll on your plane, so fight smart by firing first when you are around 1.2km away and immediately roll or bank to dodge their bullets
* Although it is tempting, engaging ground units should be the least of your priorities unless there are no other targets nearby
* HVAP shells can destroy AI light tanks in one hit from any direction, medium tanks will need to be shot from above or the rear and heavy tanks are just a waste of ammo
* 30mm Minengeschoß rounds deal a lot of damage, use it sparingly with the 20mm
* The 20mm and the 30mm have different ballistics, control mappings to each caliber is recommended
* When you have a determined enemy on your tail, there is little you can do except to wait for allies to come and help, do not let it happen;
* Use your incredible roll rate to escape from sticky situations

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 1 gear || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Powerful armament of five cannons with a lot of ammo.
* Nose mounted armament allows very tight spread of shells when firing.
* Does not slow down that much when firing all its guns.
* Durable and well armoured, both pilot and engine are protected.
* Very effective bomber killer.
* Armour is enough to deflect machine gun rounds from bombers' gunners.
* Incredibly strong at head-on engagements and will often survive unharmed or with minor damage.
* Effective flaps offset the poor turn rate, landing flaps allow this plane to keep up with some fighters.
* Decent energy retention, although not as good as the H-1 model.
* Great roll rate, better than the H-1 model.
* Very good performance when operating from low to mid altitude.
* Incredible dive performance, better than the H-1 model due to stronger, shorter wings which only rip at 915 km/h (570 mph).
* Can perform a tank-buster role despite not having bombs or rockets due to the high velocity 30mm AP belt.
* Can immediately research the 20 mm and 30 mm belts.

'''Cons:'''

* Average rate of climb for an interceptor, but it will keep up with the H-1 model.
* Slow, coupled with average rate of climb makes it an easy target after conducting a boom and zoom attack.
* Worst turn rate of all Kurt Tank fighters in the game, even worse than the already bad Fw 190 series.
* Poor high altitude performance.
* Easy to counter and has few options of escape when chased.
* Wings and fuselage are littered with fuel tanks, although they are self sealing.
* Stock performance is awful.
* Feels heavier and more sluggish to fly than the H-1 model.
* Engine often overheats above 3,500 m.

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude manoeuvrability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal centre of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminium, steel spars were utilised aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ta-152c Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|d5k2T9FP0bQ|'''Avoid them in frontal attack!''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 1:39 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|4v3fxupuZPA|'''Last piston fighters''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 2:39 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|hN38Hj_F9sU|'''War Thunder Realistic: Ta 152 C-3 [Battlestar Galactica!]''' - ''Jengar''|iKTe9p-Awhw|'''Ta 152 C-3 - I Can't Let It Go Like That!''' - ''Napalmratte''|nxQfEs1DfAQ|'''Ta 152 C3 - 1 Vs 1 - Tactics and strategies''' - ''Green Fury''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/303488-focke-wulf-ta-152-c-3/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 C-3

2021-09-23T16:32:50Z

U70267797: /* Survivability and armour */ Fixed plane name

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 H-1
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.57 "Battle March"]].

The Ta 152 C-3 should be considered the pinnacle of the Dora 190s, evolving their concept to an extreme; this plane was designed for mid altitude combat, with a re-designed short wing similar to that of the late 190 series, such as the [[Fw 190 D-13]]. With its Daimler-Benz DB 603 engine, gaining speed and altitude is the first priority in this aircraft. Second is heavy usage of Boom and Zoom tactics, especially on heavily armed strategic bombers like the [[B-29A-BN|B-29 Superfortress]]. With its armament of four MG-151 20 mm cannons (two in the wing roots, two in the cowling), and a MK-103 cannon firing through the propeller hub, trigger discipline is a must to take down as many aircraft as you can with the ammunition on board. However, it can be pushed to turn tight in a pinch with a rather small amount of energy lost by using the flaps, and despite not having a proper combat flap setting. The flaps are extremely strong and they deploy quickly, even at higher speeds (though it is not advisable to do this unless the situation is just right).

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,400 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 703 || 681 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.2 || 29.2 || 9.7 || 9.7 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 759 || 730 || 25.8 || 27.0 || 17.1 || 13.1
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 591 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 420 || < 240 || < 500 || > 290
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 8,990 m || 1,750 hp || 1,921 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
[[File:Ta152C armor schematic.png|thumb|500x700px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 C-3, corresponds to the list on the left]]


# 15 mm Steel - Engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm Steel - Oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm Steel - Angled ammunition and pilot armour
# 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 15 mm Steel - Pilot Armour
# 70 mm Angled bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
# 20 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
# 8 mm Steel + 5 mm Steel - Rear pilot shield
# 5 mm Steel - Fuel tank shield

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 103 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, nose-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

Currently the Ta 152 C-3 does not carry any under-wing ordnance, but it can perform rather lethal ground-pounding with its [[MK 103 (30 mm)]] cannon, if it is loaded with armoured target rounds (HVAP). Although, one must aim carefully and have good trigger discipline to knock out tanks, lest too many shells be wasted on a single vehicle. But for its intended role of air superiority, the combination of [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 151]] 20 mm cannons plus the aforementioned MK 103 is lethal against any aircraft in the game. However, the stock belts can be a bit of a pain to use, as half of the load are not the infamous German minengeschoße (HE-IT).

The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.

* Prioritize enemies with multiple engines first, like bombers, attackers and heavy fighters above anything else
* Only engage enemy fighters when they are distracted at something else or if you have the advantage or when there are no other targets in your vicinity
* Despite being heavily armoured, you are not invincible, head on engagements eventually will take the toll on your plane, so fight smart by firing first when you are around 1.2km away and immediately roll or bank to dodge their bullets
* Although it is tempting, engaging ground units should be the least of your priorities unless there are no other targets nearby
* HVAP shells can destroy AI light tanks in one hit from any direction, medium tanks will need to be shot from above or the rear and heavy tanks are just a waste of ammo
* 30mm Minengeschoß rounds deal a lot of damage, use it sparingly with the 20mm
* The 20mm and the 30mm have different ballistics, control mappings to each caliber is recommended
* When you have a determined enemy on your tail, there is little you can do except to wait for allies to come and help, do not let it happen;
* Use your incredible roll rate to escape from sticky situations

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 1 gear || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Powerful armament of five cannons with a lot of ammo.
* Nose mounted armament allows very tight spread of shells when firing.
* Does not slow down that much when firing all its guns.
* Durable and well armoured, both pilot and engine are protected.
* Very effective bomber killer.
* Armour is enough to deflect machine gun rounds from bombers' gunners.
* Incredibly strong at head-on engagements and will often survive unharmed or with minor damage.
* Effective flaps offset the poor turn rate, landing flaps allow this plane to keep up with some fighters.
* Decent energy retention, although not as good as the H-1 model.
* Great roll rate, better than the H-1 model.
* Very good performance when operating from low to mid altitude.
* Incredible dive performance, better than the H-1 model due to stronger, shorter wings which only rip at 915 km/h (570 mph).
* Can perform a tank-buster role despite not having bombs or rockets due to the high velocity 30mm AP belt.
* Can immediately research the 20 mm and 30 mm belts.

'''Cons:'''

* Average rate of climb for an interceptor, but it will keep up with the H-1 model.
* Slow, coupled with average rate of climb makes it an easy target after conducting a boom and zoom attack.
* Worst turn rate of all Kurt Tank fighters in the game, even worse than the already bad Fw 190 series.
* Poor high altitude performance.
* Easy to counter and has few options of escape when chased.
* Wings and fuselage are littered with fuel tanks, although they are self sealing.
* Stock performance is awful.
* Feels heavier and more sluggish to fly than the H-1 model.
* Engine often overheats above 3,500 m.

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude manoeuvrability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal centre of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminium, steel spars were utilised aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ta-152c Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|d5k2T9FP0bQ|'''Avoid them in frontal attack!''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 1:39 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|4v3fxupuZPA|'''Last piston fighters''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 2:39 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|hN38Hj_F9sU|'''War Thunder Realistic: Ta 152 C-3 [Battlestar Galactica!]''' - ''Jengar''|iKTe9p-Awhw|'''Ta 152 C-3 - I Can't Let It Go Like That!''' - ''Napalmratte''|nxQfEs1DfAQ|'''Ta 152 C3 - 1 Vs 1 - Tactics and strategies''' - ''Green Fury''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/303488-focke-wulf-ta-152-c-3/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 H-1

2021-09-22T00:19:50Z

U70267797: Fixed placement of armour diagram

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 C-3
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152h-1
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


While the Ta 152 H-1 is the ultimate evolution of the Fw 190, the [[Ta 152 C-3]] takes the Fw 190 concepts to their limit. Don't be dissuaded however, the H-1 is a different beast altogether. Fast, manoeuvrable, and stable at >350 km/h, it is more nimble than most enemies at its BR, has a decent rate of climb, great turn time (especially with flaps), and above average roll rate. The Ta 152 H-1 trades the incredible roll rate of the Fw 190 line for great energy retention and turnfighting ability. You will outclimb most competitors and will usually have an altitude advantage due to the interceptor airspawn.

If you're going to play as an interceptor, just climb high and dive on bombers. Should you fly against fighters, do not neglect your combat flaps in dogfights.

[[File:Cockpit Ta152.jpg|x150px|right|thumb|none|Cockpit of the Ta 152]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,200 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 725 || 707 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.1 || 21.3 || 14.0 || 14.0 || rowspan="2" | 315
|-
! Upgraded
| 788 || 755 || 20.3 || 20.5 || 22.2 || 17.5
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 536 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 360 || < 220 || < 500 || > 320
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|2,000 m||1,740 hp||2,063 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|6,200 m||1,556 hp||1,842 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|9,100 m||1,299 hp||1,535 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 4
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|12,200 m||999 hp||1,376 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
[[File:Ta 152 H-1 armor schematic.png|thumb|404x404px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 H-1, corresponds to the list on the left]]


# 15 mm Steel - Engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm Steel - Oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm Steel - Angled ammunition and pilot armour
# 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 70 mm Angled bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
# 20 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
# 8 mm Steel + 5 mm Steel - Rear pilot shield
# 5 mm Steel - Fuel tank shield

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 108 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

The Ta-152 H-1 is a high altitude fighter with a wide wing span and good manoeuvrability. Unlike its heavier cousin the [[Ta 152 C-3]], the H-1's best performance is reached when flying in excess of 9 km (~30,000 ft) as this is where the engine performs at maximum efficiency. Ta 152 H-1's with altitude advantages are a deadly force to be reckoned with, having a great dive speed and energy retention, making it an efficient Hit and Run plane. With an interceptor airspawn, the average climb rate of 22 m/s (AB) and 17.5 m/s (RB) is somewhat nullified. However the pilot must be aware of planes with a climb rate in excess of 20 m/s (RB) such as Spitfires, or P-51s, as they can ''absolutely'' possess an altitude advantage at first contact, despite taking off from the ground.

Even though the Ta 152 H-1 is an high altitude fighter, it can still be a force to be reckoned with at medium and low altitudes. Being quite manoeuvrable it can do well in a dogfight if its forced into one against certain opponents, however against some opponents it will struggle with to dogfight against and is best for the Ta 152 H-1 to use its primary strengths. Its speed and manoeuvring energy retention (MER) combined with altitude advantages allow the plane to perform best against its foes. However, do note you are not out of options when close to the ground as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with flaps. Another strong role for the Ta 152 H-1 is that of intercepting of heavy bombers at high altitude. Even if the bomber is trying to escape, the Ta 152 H-1 will quickly catch up to them due to the power of its engine.

The armament of the Ta-152 H-1 is fairly powerful: the minengeschoß firing [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] and 2 x [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have enough power to inflict heavy damage on most targets it will encounter. Though be aware that the 30 mm [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] only has 90 rounds at its disposal and is most efficient at close range. Meanwhile, the two [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have 175 rounds per gun for a total of 350 rounds together, and can be used with much more liberty than the 30 mm.

Enemies to be aware of in the Ta 152 H-1 are opponents such as the [[Spitfire F Mk 24]], [[F8F (Family)|F8F]], [[P-51H-5-NA]], [[F2G-1]] and [[Ki-84 (Family)|Ki-84]]. These foes can intercept and force the Ta 152 H-1 into dogfights on equal terms, trying to gain an energy or altitude advantage is key before engagement with these aircraft.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 5 gears || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact, and serves well in bomber interception
* Stable in all axes (joystick), and fairly nimble in a turn (mouse aim)
* Good armour layout protects both the pilot and engine, strong in headons
* GM-1 engine boost gives outstanding performance above 7,000 m, at these altitudes a good pilot can go head to head with any foe
* Combat flaps rip off at 700 km/h, which means you can use them at almost any speed
* Above average turnfighter for Germany, landing flaps increase turn so much that you can keep up with most fighters; even some Spitfires
* Has some of the best manoeuvring energy retention (MER) performance in the game, it will easily win a prolonged dogfight with good usage of flaps
* Excellent diver, wings only rip past 870 km/h (540 mph)
* Decently fast on the deck, can reach 580 km/h (360 mph) and will catch most enemies in a straight chase
* Very fast at high altitude (>7 km); at 12,200 m the Ta 152 H-1 will reach 755 km/h (469 mph), making it the fastest single engine German prop fighter

'''Cons:'''

* 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit
* Has a tendency to snap roll viciously, especially in a stall
* Very strong brakes, will easily flip over if not used sparingly, and is thus slower to land than most aircraft
* Losing your flaps through gunfire or otherwise is a massive detriment to turning performance and hampers your ability to dogfight effectively
* Despite having an above average roll rate, it is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
* Average climb rate, even with the airspawn it can be difficult to attain an altitude advantage over foes such as the Spitfire
* Below average ammo capacity, good trigger discipline is a must with the Ta 152 H
* Long wings increase chance of collision with enemy aircraft, especially in headons
* Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks due to wing surface area
* No external payload options or HVAP shells on the MK 108, making this strictly an air superiority plane

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude maneuverability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal center of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminum, steel spars were utilized aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152H variant

The Ta 152H-1 was refined to be more of a high-altitude fighter even so over the Ta 152C. Wings were extended a full length of 14.4 m (47.4 ft), though this lowered its overall speed, it provided substantial improvement with high-altitude handling. To aid the pilots in the higher altitude flights, the H variant was outfitted with a pressurized cockpit. The cockpit was pressurized to approximately a level comparable with 8,000 m (26,250 ft) and the canopy was comprised of two layers of which the outer was a thicker material with a thinner inner pane. To compensate for any moisture which could form between the panes, silica gel was added to aid in stemming any fogging. Unlike the 'C' variant, the 'H' only utilized a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub along with just two MG 151/20 mm autocannons, both of which were mounted in the upper fuselage. Eliminating the two wing-mounted cannons aided in increased maneuverability and less weight to make up for some of the additional weight added due to the pressurized cockpit system.

Overall the Ta 152H variant was one of the fastest piston-engine fighters to emerge during World War II, cruising around 750 km/h (465 mph) while at around 10,200 m (33,000 ft). The Ta 152H also employed the usage of GM-1 nitrous oxide boost and MW 50 methanol-water boost to briefly increase performance in the aircraft and if necessary, both could be applied at the same time.<ref name="Militaryfactory" />

=== In-game description ===
The Ta 152 was, without a doubt, the best aircraft designed by Kurt Tank for Focke-Wulf. The aircraft was a further redesign of the venerable Fw 190, namely of the Fw 190 D. The Ta 152 became possible thanks to the new high-altitude Jumo 213 and DB 603 engines.

Development began in the winter of 1942-1943, when RLM's technical department released specifications for a new 'Spezial Jaeger', or Special Fighter. The fighter was to be capable of a high-altitude interceptor role. The Ta 152 H-1 was armed with a MK 108 cannon with 85 rounds firing through the propeller hub and two MG 151/20 cannons (220 rounds per gun) in the wings. The H-1 went into serial production in January or February of 1945. A total of only 70 or so were produced, of which very few made it to front-line service.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ta-152h-1 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|5oVIzdap51E|'''The Shooting Range #212''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 04:43 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.|t3xD7JpnHeI|'''Best aircraft for Boom & Zoom''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 3:52 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|4v3fxupuZPA|'''Last piston fighters''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 1:42 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|LCVpwcd7H9s|'''{{PAGENAME}} - Strategy and Tactics - Guide - War Thunder''' - ''Green Fury''|nXeC3YM2Ds0|'''{{PAGENAME}} (FM Changes Revisit 1.79!)''' - ''Jengar''|yyB_--akcGI|'''TA IS LIFE - {{PAGENAME}}''' - ''Slick Plays''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.ru/index.php?/topic/96066-ta-152-h1/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance (Russian Forum)]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 C-3

2021-09-22T00:18:27Z

U70267797: Re-added fixed armour diagram

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 H-1
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.57 "Battle March"]].

The Ta 152 C-3 should be considered the pinnacle of the Dora 190s, evolving their concept to an extreme; this plane was designed for mid altitude combat, with a re-designed short wing similar to that of the late 190 series, such as the [[Fw 190 D-13]]. With its Daimler-Benz DB 603 engine, gaining speed and altitude is the first priority in this aircraft. Second is heavy usage of Boom and Zoom tactics, especially on heavily armed strategic bombers like the [[B-29A-BN|B-29 Superfortress]]. With its armament of four MG-151 20 mm cannons (two in the wing roots, two in the cowling), and a MK-103 cannon firing through the propeller hub, trigger discipline is a must to take down as many aircraft as you can with the ammunition on board. However, it can be pushed to turn tight in a pinch with a rather small amount of energy lost by using the flaps, and despite not having a proper combat flap setting. The flaps are extremely strong and they deploy quickly, even at higher speeds (though it is not advisable to do this unless the situation is just right).

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,400 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 703 || 681 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.2 || 29.2 || 9.7 || 9.7 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 759 || 730 || 25.8 || 27.0 || 17.1 || 13.1
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 591 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 420 || < 240 || < 500 || > 290
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 8,990 m || 1,750 hp || 1,921 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
[[File:Ta152C armor schematic.png|thumb|500x700px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 H-1, corresponds to the list on the left]]


# 15 mm Steel - Engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm Steel - Oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm Steel - Angled ammunition and pilot armour
# 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 15 mm Steel - Pilot Armour
# 70 mm Angled bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
# 20 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
# 8 mm Steel + 5 mm Steel - Rear pilot shield
# 5 mm Steel - Fuel tank shield

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 103 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, nose-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

Currently the Ta 152 C-3 does not carry any under-wing ordnance, but it can perform rather lethal ground-pounding with its [[MK 103 (30 mm)]] cannon, if it is loaded with armoured target rounds (HVAP). Although, one must aim carefully and have good trigger discipline to knock out tanks, lest too many shells be wasted on a single vehicle. But for its intended role of air superiority, the combination of [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 151]] 20 mm cannons plus the aforementioned MK 103 is lethal against any aircraft in the game. However, the stock belts can be a bit of a pain to use, as half of the load are not the infamous German minengeschoße (HE-IT).

The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.

* Prioritize enemies with multiple engines first, like bombers, attackers and heavy fighters above anything else
* Only engage enemy fighters when they are distracted at something else or if you have the advantage or when there are no other targets in your vicinity
* Despite being heavily armoured, you are not invincible, head on engagements eventually will take the toll on your plane, so fight smart by firing first when you are around 1.2km away and immediately roll or bank to dodge their bullets
* Although it is tempting, engaging ground units should be the least of your priorities unless there are no other targets nearby
* HVAP shells can destroy AI light tanks in one hit from any direction, medium tanks will need to be shot from above or the rear and heavy tanks are just a waste of ammo
* 30mm Minengeschoß rounds deal a lot of damage, use it sparingly with the 20mm
* The 20mm and the 30mm have different ballistics, control mappings to each caliber is recommended
* When you have a determined enemy on your tail, there is little you can do except to wait for allies to come and help, do not let it happen;
* Use your incredible roll rate to escape from sticky situations

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 1 gear || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Powerful armament of five cannons with a lot of ammo.
* Nose mounted armament allows very tight spread of shells when firing.
* Does not slow down that much when firing all its guns.
* Durable and well armoured, both pilot and engine are protected.
* Very effective bomber killer.
* Armour is enough to deflect machine gun rounds from bombers' gunners.
* Incredibly strong at head-on engagements and will often survive unharmed or with minor damage.
* Effective flaps offset the poor turn rate, landing flaps allow this plane to keep up with some fighters.
* Decent energy retention, although not as good as the H-1 model.
* Great roll rate, better than the H-1 model.
* Very good performance when operating from low to mid altitude.
* Incredible dive performance, better than the H-1 model due to stronger, shorter wings which only rip at 915 km/h (570 mph).
* Can perform a tank-buster role despite not having bombs or rockets due to the high velocity 30mm AP belt.
* Can immediately research the 20 mm and 30 mm belts.

'''Cons:'''

* Average rate of climb for an interceptor, but it will keep up with the H-1 model.
* Slow, coupled with average rate of climb makes it an easy target after conducting a boom and zoom attack.
* Worst turn rate of all Kurt Tank fighters in the game, even worse than the already bad Fw 190 series.
* Poor high altitude performance.
* Easy to counter and has few options of escape when chased.
* Wings and fuselage are littered with fuel tanks, although they are self sealing.
* Stock performance is awful.
* Feels heavier and more sluggish to fly than the H-1 model.
* Engine often overheats above 3,500 m.

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude manoeuvrability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal centre of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminium, steel spars were utilised aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ta-152c Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|d5k2T9FP0bQ|'''Avoid them in frontal attack!''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 1:39 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|4v3fxupuZPA|'''Last piston fighters''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 2:39 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|hN38Hj_F9sU|'''War Thunder Realistic: Ta 152 C-3 [Battlestar Galactica!]''' - ''Jengar''|iKTe9p-Awhw|'''Ta 152 C-3 - I Can't Let It Go Like That!''' - ''Napalmratte''|nxQfEs1DfAQ|'''Ta 152 C3 - 1 Vs 1 - Tactics and strategies''' - ''Green Fury''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/303488-focke-wulf-ta-152-c-3/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

File:Ta152C armor schematic.png

2021-09-22T00:11:50Z

U70267797: Armour diagram of the Ta 152 C-3, corresponds to the list on the left

Armour diagram of the Ta 152 C-3, corresponds to the list on the left

Ta 152 C-3

2021-09-22T00:10:10Z

U70267797: Removed old armor diagram

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 H-1
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.57 "Battle March"]].

The Ta 152 C-3 should be considered the pinnacle of the Dora 190s, evolving their concept to an extreme; this plane was designed for mid altitude combat, with a re-designed short wing similar to that of the late 190 series, such as the [[Fw 190 D-13]]. With its Daimler-Benz DB 603 engine, gaining speed and altitude is the first priority in this aircraft. Second is heavy usage of Boom and Zoom tactics, especially on heavily armed strategic bombers like the [[B-29A-BN|B-29 Superfortress]]. With its armament of four MG-151 20 mm cannons (two in the wing roots, two in the cowling), and a MK-103 cannon firing through the propeller hub, trigger discipline is a must to take down as many aircraft as you can with the ammunition on board. However, it can be pushed to turn tight in a pinch with a rather small amount of energy lost by using the flaps, and despite not having a proper combat flap setting. The flaps are extremely strong and they deploy quickly, even at higher speeds (though it is not advisable to do this unless the situation is just right).

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,400 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 703 || 681 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.2 || 29.2 || 9.7 || 9.7 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 759 || 730 || 25.8 || 27.0 || 17.1 || 13.1
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 591 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 420 || < 240 || < 500 || > 290
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 8,990 m || 1,750 hp || 1,921 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


# 15 mm Steel - Engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm Steel - Oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm Steel - Angled ammunition and pilot armour
# 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 15 mm Steel - Pilot Armour
# 70 mm Angled bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
# 20 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
# 8 mm Steel + 5 mm Steel - Rear pilot shield
# 5 mm Steel - Fuel tank shield

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 103 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, nose-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

Currently the Ta 152 C-3 does not carry any under-wing ordnance, but it can perform rather lethal ground-pounding with its [[MK 103 (30 mm)]] cannon, if it is loaded with armoured target rounds (HVAP). Although, one must aim carefully and have good trigger discipline to knock out tanks, lest too many shells be wasted on a single vehicle. But for its intended role of air superiority, the combination of [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 151]] 20 mm cannons plus the aforementioned MK 103 is lethal against any aircraft in the game. However, the stock belts can be a bit of a pain to use, as half of the load are not the infamous German minengeschoße (HE-IT).

The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.

* Prioritize enemies with multiple engines first, like bombers, attackers and heavy fighters above anything else
* Only engage enemy fighters when they are distracted at something else or if you have the advantage or when there are no other targets in your vicinity
* Despite being heavily armoured, you are not invincible, head on engagements eventually will take the toll on your plane, so fight smart by firing first when you are around 1.2km away and immediately roll or bank to dodge their bullets
* Although it is tempting, engaging ground units should be the least of your priorities unless there are no other targets nearby
* HVAP shells can destroy AI light tanks in one hit from any direction, medium tanks will need to be shot from above or the rear and heavy tanks are just a waste of ammo
* 30mm Minengeschoß rounds deal a lot of damage, use it sparingly with the 20mm
* The 20mm and the 30mm have different ballistics, control mappings to each caliber is recommended
* When you have a determined enemy on your tail, there is little you can do except to wait for allies to come and help, do not let it happen;
* Use your incredible roll rate to escape from sticky situations

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 1 gear || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Powerful armament of five cannons with a lot of ammo.
* Nose mounted armament allows very tight spread of bullets when firing.
* Does not slow down that much when firing all its guns.
* Durable and well armoured, both pilot and engine are protected.
* Very effective bomber killer.
* Armour is enough to deflect machine gun rounds from bombers' gunners.
* Incredibly strong at head-on engagements and will often survive unharmed or with minor damage.
* Effective flaps offset the poor turn rate, landing flaps allow this plane to keep up with some fighters.
* Decent energy retention, although not as good as the H-1 model.
* Great roll rate, better than the H-1 model.
* Very good performance when operating from low to mid altitude.
* Incredible dive performance, better than the H-1 model due to stronger, shorter wings which only rip at 915 km/h (570 mph).
* Can perform a tank-buster role despite not having bombs or rockets due to the high velocity 30mm AP belt.
* Can immediately research the 20 mm and 30 mm belts.

'''Cons:'''

* Average rate of climb for an interceptor, but it will keep up with the H-1 model.
* Slow, coupled with average rate of climb makes it an easy target after conducting a boom and zoom attack.
* Worst turn rate of all Kurt Tank fighters in the game, even worse than the already bad Fw 190 series.
* Poor high altitude performance.
* Easy to counter and has few options of escape when chased.
* Wings and fuselage are littered with fuel tanks, although they are self sealing.
* Stock performance is awful.
* Feels heavier and more sluggish to fly than the H-1 model.
* Engine often overheats above 3,500 m.

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude manoeuvrability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal centre of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminium, steel spars were utilised aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ta-152c Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
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== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/303488-focke-wulf-ta-152-c-3/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Bostwick's P-47M-1-RE

2021-09-22T00:04:49Z

U70267797: Added relevant information, fixed grammatical errors, and reworded contradictive statements

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== Description ==

'''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} American fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.49 "Weapons of Victory"]]. The Republic P-47M was the fastest of the production model Thunderbolts. The plane is painted after the camouflage scheme of American pilot George E. Bostwick in the US Army Air Force in the 56th Fighter Group.

The P-47M is a high-altitude interceptor that has impressive armament and ordnance that serves it well in both the fighter and Close Air Support role. In Air RB, it is currently unequalled in performance at a 5.7 battle rating, possessing ridiculous top speed, competitive climb rate, decent energy retention, great armament, and surprising manoeuvrability at speed.

As such, the P-47M is best played to its strengths as a Boom & Zoom and Boom & Run fighter in Air RB. In Ground RB it is an excellent fighter bomber with a good rocket/bomb load-out and .50 cals that can deal with most turret roofs.

The M variant was specifically setup to intercept Germany's buzz-bombs and the new [[Me 262 A-1a|jet]]/[[Me 163 B|rocket]] powered fighters. The primary advantage of this new variant came through speed. The aircraft was powered by either a Pratt & Whitney R-2800-14W or R-2800-5 engine while using the CH-5 turbo-supercharger. The aircraft was able to produce 2,800 hp, giving it higher top speed.

In War Thunder Air RB, the P-47M is a superprop variant of earlier P-47s with a BR of 5.7. Top speeds above 5 km exceed literally any opponent besides the [[Ta 152 H-1]] (which is only capable of competing at around 9-10 km). Climb rate is great, at around an average of 23 m/s from 0-6000 m. WEP is available for up to 12 minutes to maximize engine output.

Interestingly (besides the better engine), the P-47M gets a unique airbrake which makes it very easy to stick behind the tails of opponents in a high-speed dive.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 9,144 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 726 || 711 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 25.3 || 26.1 || 10.8 || 10.8 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 794 || 760 || 22.8 || 24.0 || 23.3 || 15.9
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 498 || 469 || 320 || ~13 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 400 || < 420 || < 470 || > 335
|-
|}

[[File:P47M Armor Schematic.png|thumb|438x438px|Armour diagram of the P-47M-1-RE, corresponds to the list on the left]]

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


# 9.5 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 38 mm Bulletproof glass - Windscreen
# 9.5 mm Steel - Seat back and headrest armour plates

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|M2 Browning (12.7 mm)}}

'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 8 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (425 rpg = 3,400 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|HVAR}}

'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==


First of all, the P-47 should always try to fly fast. No matter the altitude, it is recommended to fly at speeds higher than 520 km/h (~320 mph). One of the few things the P-47 is terrible at doing is dogfighting. Imagine a truck loaded with cement with wings strapped to the side. Congratulations, you just pictured a P-47 flying at low speeds. Now, with this out of the way you must remember one thing and one thing only, when and where possible, fly high, the higher the better. The higher in altitude the P-47 goes the better the engine performs compared to its potential adversaries. The best altitude for the P-47M is around 9,000 meters (~30,000 ft), but it still can perform very good at lower altitudes ranging from 6,000 meters (~20,000 ft) to 8,000 meters (~26,000 ft). One drawback of the P-47M's engine is that it can easily overheat when using WEP for extended periods of time, however just disabling WEP for few seconds should be enough to cool down the powerful Pratt & Whitney powerplant hidden under the hood.

====== Combat tactics ======
'''Arcade:''' In AB much of what was mentioned above can be disregarded due to the adjusted flight model of arcade battles, instead just put your throttle to WEP, climb above your enemies and Boom & Zoom them. It is important to realize that while the P-47 can be the king of the hill, there are a few others which will buck for the spot too including Spitfires, Fw 190s and Bf 109s as they can climb as good as you and they often have cannons which in no time can dismantle a P-47 quickly in flight.

'''Air Realistic:''' In RB, P-47M pilots should '''not''' take any additional armaments such as bombs and rockets unless absolutely necessary, they will only slow down the plane and make it an easy prey for Bf 109 K-4s, Ta 152s and Fw 190s. As soon as you take off from the airfield divert 30 degrees to left or right (depends on where the middle of the map is, just don't climb towards the middle), engage WEP and climb at ~17-18 degrees. The best speed for climbing is around ~267 km/h (~165 mph). When you reach an altitude of about 5,500 meters (18,000 ft) start to gradually turn towards the middle of the map. Watch out for any enemy planes coming towards you, Ta 152s and Bf 109 K-4s will be your biggest threats as they have similar performance output compared to the P-47M. At ~6,000 meters you will notice that climbing at 18 degrees is not as effective, at this point adjust the angle of attack to 10-15 degrees. It may be beneficial to stop climbing at this point if you are already above the entire enemy team. Next, it is recommended to fly level and gain some speed. In this situation, the P-47 will reign supreme over the skies, look around you, see if there are any enemy planes spotted and pick off the easiest targets, preferably slow-flying fighters which are flying straight. If you cannot find targets like these, prioritize fighters such as 109s, 190s, 152s, and G.55s, as they can easily kill you if you are not careful.

Always perform powered dives, and if you feel you're going too fast just extend the airbrakes long enough to reign in the aircraft's speed which is one of the biggest advantages of P-47M over the D-series and other comparable non-allied prop fighters. When you are over with the ''Boom'' portion of the flying do not climb outright, instead, speed away from the enemies (preferably towards your teammates) increasing distance between you and anyone tailing. When you gain ~3 km (~2 miles) of separation from enemy planes you can do the ''Zoom'' part of the tactic or keep running if you're feeling that the enemy planes could catch up to you. Climb at 10 degrees and gain enough altitude to ensure that you have an energy advantage above enemy planes. In most dire situations you can try to go for head-on (only if you have at least 2.5 km separation from the enemy) attack, but it's not recommended to do that as you will most likely damage your engine in the process. In the worst-case scenario, the fighter will catch fire and burn up. If you see an enemy fighter which is attempting to dive at you, try to force them to overshoot, call for help and fly towards your closest teammate. You can shrug off few hits to the fuselage but anything that touches your wings and elevators will most likely disable or destroy the aircraft's ability to fly well or at all. Flying with your friends also helps as you can quickly call them to assist you. If you're the only one left on your team you should climb, look out for enemy fighters and Boom & Zoom them, just keep in mind that P-47 is not the best plane to do 1 vs 2 dogfights in. Try to separate enemies and pick them off one by one. Bombers are typically a difficult target to go after as they usually soak up quite a bit of ammunition before taking critical damage and you risk being set afire or sniped by the defensive gunners. However, the long effective range and shallow drop of the .50 cals makes it possible to attack some bombers from outside their own gunners' effective range.

It's important to remember that the P-47's first and foremost mission is air superiority, especially in the case of the P-47M. Taking bombs and rockets will make your plane even more sluggish than it already is and because of that you will have to fly near the ground, and that typically makes the P-47 easy pickings for other enemy fighters. This is not to say you should never attack ground targets however, and there are certain situations where it is more rewarding (e.g. no enemy fighters left). With a large ammunition pool of 3,400 .50 cal rounds, there will almost certainly be enough left over to wreak substantial havoc on soft targets. It's also important to note that the Ground Targets and Tracers belts are capable of destroying light pillboxes with ~250 rounds. For more flexibility in attacking, it is sometimes beneficial to take on ordinance, but you should only do this after expending all of your .50 cal ammunition. The two 1,000 lb and 500 lb bombs as well as eight HVAR rockets mean it is possible to engage hard targets such as tanks. Again, it must be remembered that this should only seriously be considered if the relative danger to your aircraft is virtually zero. But if this is the case, it is very rewarding to the player as well as helps win the game faster.

It is important to mention the two schools of thought regarding the ammunition belts for .50 cals. The first one says that you should use ''Ground Targets'' belts because of the high amount of armour piercing rounds which do a lot of damage and can easily shred anything hit with them. However, the second school of thought states one should use ''Tracers'' belts because they have the highest chance of setting the enemy on fire which will typically leads to a fiery destruction of the enemy aircraft. But, there's one thing everyone agrees on: Don't use ''Default'' belts, as the other available belts have a higher ratio of more damaging AP-T, API, and API-T bullets. As the P-47M is a premium aircraft, you won't need to spend time upgrading to better belts.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Controllable
Not auto controlled
| Controllable Auto control available || Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Separate || Controllable 1 gear || Auto controlled
|-
|}
To get the most performance out of your Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57(C), use 120% mixture from 0 to 2,000 meters, 80% mixture from 2,000 to 4,000 meters, and 60% mixture above 4,000 meters. The default setting on auto mixture controls is 60%, setting it higher at lower altitudes allows you to squeeze some extra horsepower out of the engine, which significantly improves the rate of climb. It is possible to set the oil and engine radiators to 0% and not worry about overheating when not using WEP. However, prolonged WEP usage will overheat the engine in this state, and it should only be used when maximum power is absolutely necessary. To run WEP for extended periods of time, set the oil radiator to ~30%, and engine radiator from 25% to 50% as needed. It is important to note that you have a limited WEP duration of ~15 minutes. While this is enough to last through most engagements, during prolonged battles it does well to conserve the boost for when it is most needed.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Forgiving aircraft
* Eight deadly .50 cal M2 Brownings
* Flexible ground-attack ordnance selection
* Unrivalled high altitude performance
* Very good high-speed manoeuvrability
* Good climb rate
* Superior performance to earlier P-47s catches enemies off guard
* Airbrakes
* Sturdy radial engine protects the pilot in headons
* Access to premium bonuses in Silver Lion and Research Points

'''Cons:'''

* Payloads encourage a low-altitude attacker playstyle, playing into P-47M's disadvantages
* Poor low-speed manoeuvrability
* Limited top speed of ~530 km/h on the deck, inferior to most enemy fighters
* Large size and wingspan makes it an easy target for enemy fighters
* Lack of engine armor means damage is very likely in head-ons
* Engine easily catches fire when hit by 13/15/20 mm shells

== History ==


Four P-47D-27 Aircraft were pulled from the production line at the Farmingdale factory and were fitted with the Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57(C) engine. They were also equipped with a larger CH-5 turbo-supercharger allowing the aircraft to reach 2,800 hp at 32,000 feet. Air brakes were also added underneath the wings to aid in deceleration and recovery during dives. These four prototypes were re-designated YP-47M.

The engine installations were eventually added to the last 130 P-47D-30s from Farmingdale in Sept of 1944. They were all re-designated P-47M-1-RE. It is important to note that the under-wing racks were not fitted to this aircraft. It was intended to be strictly a fighter. They were delivered in Dec. of 1944. The dorsal fins were later added as a field modification.

The M-variant saw service with the 56th Fighter Group but problems with the new highly tuned R-2800 delayed their use until the last weeks of the war in Europe. At one point the aircraft was pulled from service and replaced with D variants until the aircraft performed reliably. The P-47M was never used against V-1 flying bombs, its original target.

The P-47M is most remembered for Major George Bostwick's engagements with the [[Me 262 A-1a|Me 262]]. Bostwick shot down a Me 262 on March 25 1945. He was able to damage a second one a few days later on April 7th.

His P-47M-1-RE had the nickname "Ugly Duckling" and a striking paint scheme.

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== See also ==


;Related development

* [[P-47 (Family)]]

;Carbon-copy vehicles

* [[Lanovski's P-47M-1-RE]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/3073/current/|[Series] Maj. George Bostwick's P-47 Thunderbolt]]
* [http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/234553-republic-p-47m/ Official WT forum Aircraft Data Sheet section: "Republic P-47M"]

{{AirManufacturer Republic}}
{{USA fighters}}
{{USA premium aircraft}}

File:P47M Armor Schematic.png

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Armour diagram of the P-47M-1-RE, corresponds to the list on the left

Ta 152 C-3

2021-09-21T23:30:31Z

U70267797: Added armour diagram

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 H-1
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.57 "Battle March"]].

The Ta 152 C-3 should be considered the pinnacle of the Dora 190s, evolving their concept to an extreme; this plane was designed for mid altitude combat, with a re-designed short wing similar to that of the late 190 series, such as the [[Fw 190 D-13]]. With its Daimler-Benz DB 603 engine, gaining speed and altitude is the first priority in this aircraft. Second is heavy usage of Boom and Zoom tactics, especially on heavily armed strategic bombers like the [[B-29A-BN|B-29 Superfortress]]. With its armament of four MG-151 20 mm cannons (two in the wing roots, two in the cowling), and a MK-103 cannon firing through the propeller hub, trigger discipline is a must to take down as many aircraft as you can with the ammunition on board. However, it can be pushed to turn tight in a pinch with a rather small amount of energy lost by using the flaps, and despite not having a proper combat flap setting. The flaps are extremely strong and they deploy quickly, even at higher speeds (though it is not advisable to do this unless the situation is just right).

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,400 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 703 || 681 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.2 || 29.2 || 9.7 || 9.7 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 759 || 730 || 25.8 || 27.0 || 17.1 || 13.1
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 591 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 420 || < 240 || < 500 || > 290
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 8,990 m || 1,750 hp || 1,921 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


[[File:152C armor schematic.png|thumb|550x550px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 C-3, corresponds to the list on the left]]

# 15 mm Steel - Engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm Steel - Oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm Steel - Angled ammunition and pilot armour
# 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 15 mm Steel - Pilot Armour
# 70 mm Angled bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
# 20 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
# 8 mm Steel + 5 mm Steel - Rear pilot shield
# 5 mm Steel - Fuel tank shield

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 103 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, nose-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

Currently the Ta 152 C-3 does not carry any under-wing ordnance, but it can perform rather lethal ground-pounding with its [[MK 103 (30 mm)]] cannon, if it is loaded with armoured target rounds (HVAP). Although, one must aim carefully and have good trigger discipline to knock out tanks, lest too many shells be wasted on a single vehicle. But for its intended role of air superiority, the combination of [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 151]] 20 mm cannons plus the aforementioned MK 103 is lethal against any aircraft in the game. However, the stock belts can be a bit of a pain to use, as half of the load are not the infamous German minengeschoße (HE-IT).

The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.

* Prioritize enemies with multiple engines first, like bombers, attackers and heavy fighters above anything else
* Only engage enemy fighters when they are distracted at something else or if you have the advantage or when there are no other targets in your vicinity
* Despite being heavily armoured, you are not invincible, head on engagements eventually will take the toll on your plane, so fight smart by firing first when you are around 1.2km away and immediately roll or bank to dodge their bullets
* Although it is tempting, engaging ground units should be the least of your priorities unless there are no other targets nearby
* HVAP shells can destroy AI light tanks in one hit from any direction, medium tanks will need to be shot from above or the rear and heavy tanks are just a waste of ammo
* 30mm Minengeschoß rounds deal a lot of damage, use it sparingly with the 20mm
* The 20mm and the 30mm have different ballistics, control mappings to each caliber is recommended
* When you have a determined enemy on your tail, there is little you can do except to wait for allies to come and help, do not let it happen;
* Use your incredible roll rate to escape from sticky situations

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 1 gear || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Powerful armament of five cannons with a lot of ammo.
* Nose mounted armament allows very tight spread of bullets when firing.
* Does not slow down that much when firing all its guns.
* Durable and well armoured, both pilot and engine are protected.
* Very effective bomber killer.
* Armour is enough to deflect machine gun rounds from bombers' gunners.
* Incredibly strong at head-on engagements and will often survive unharmed or with minor damage.
* Effective flaps offset the poor turn rate, landing flaps allow this plane to keep up with some fighters.
* Decent energy retention, although not as good as the H-1 model.
* Great roll rate, better than the H-1 model.
* Very good performance when operating from low to mid altitude.
* Incredible dive performance, better than the H-1 model due to stronger, shorter wings which only rip at 915 km/h (570 mph).
* Can perform a tank-buster role despite not having bombs or rockets due to the high velocity 30mm AP belt.
* Can immediately research the 20 mm and 30 mm belts.

'''Cons:'''

* Average rate of climb for an interceptor, but it will keep up with the H-1 model.
* Slow, coupled with average rate of climb makes it an easy target after conducting a boom and zoom attack.
* Worst turn rate of all Kurt Tank fighters in the game, even worse than the already bad Fw 190 series.
* Poor high altitude performance.
* Easy to counter and has few options of escape when chased.
* Wings and fuselage are littered with fuel tanks, although they are self sealing.
* Stock performance is awful.
* Feels heavier and more sluggish to fly than the H-1 model.
* Engine often overheats above 3,500 m.

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude manoeuvrability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal centre of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminium, steel spars were utilised aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

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== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/303488-focke-wulf-ta-152-c-3/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 H-1

2021-09-21T23:30:16Z

U70267797: Edited armour diagram text to be more accurate

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 C-3
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152h-1
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


While the Ta 152 H-1 is the ultimate evolution of the Fw 190, the [[Ta 152 C-3]] takes the Fw 190 concepts to their limit. Don't be dissuaded however, the H-1 is a different beast altogether. Fast, manoeuvrable, and stable at >350 km/h, it is more nimble than most enemies at its BR, has a decent rate of climb, great turn time (especially with flaps), and above average roll rate. The Ta 152 H-1 trades the incredible roll rate of the Fw 190 line for great energy retention and turnfighting ability. You will outclimb most competitors and will usually have an altitude advantage due to the interceptor airspawn.

If you're going to play as an interceptor, just climb high and dive on bombers. Should you fly against fighters, do not neglect your combat flaps in dogfights.

[[File:Cockpit Ta152.jpg|x150px|right|thumb|none|Cockpit of the Ta 152]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,200 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 725 || 707 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.1 || 21.3 || 14.0 || 14.0 || rowspan="2" | 315
|-
! Upgraded
| 788 || 755 || 20.3 || 20.5 || 22.2 || 17.5
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 536 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 360 || < 220 || < 500 || > 320
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|2,000 m||1,740 hp||2,063 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|6,200 m||1,556 hp||1,842 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|9,100 m||1,299 hp||1,535 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 4
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|12,200 m||999 hp||1,376 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
[[File:Ta 152 H-1 armor schematic.png|thumb|404x404px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 H-1, corresponds to the list on the left]]
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


# 15 mm Steel - Engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm Steel - Oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm Steel - Angled ammunition and pilot armour
# 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot armour
# 70 mm Angled bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
# 20 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
# 8 mm Steel + 5 mm Steel - Rear pilot shield
# 5 mm Steel - Fuel tank shield

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 108 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

The Ta-152 H-1 is a high altitude fighter with a wide wing span and good manoeuvrability. Unlike its heavier cousin the [[Ta 152 C-3]], the H-1's best performance is reached when flying in excess of 9 km (~30,000 ft) as this is where the engine performs at maximum efficiency. Ta 152 H-1's with altitude advantages are a deadly force to be reckoned with, having a great dive speed and energy retention, making it an efficient Hit and Run plane. With an interceptor airspawn, the average climb rate of 22 m/s (AB) and 17.5 m/s (RB) is somewhat nullified. However the pilot must be aware of planes with a climb rate in excess of 20 m/s (RB) such as Spitfires, or P-51s, as they can ''absolutely'' possess an altitude advantage at first contact, despite taking off from the ground.

Even though the Ta 152 H-1 is an high altitude fighter, it can still be a force to be reckoned with at medium and low altitudes. Being quite manoeuvrable it can do well in a dogfight if its forced into one against certain opponents, however against some opponents it will struggle with to dogfight against and is best for the Ta 152 H-1 to use its primary strengths. Its speed and manoeuvring energy retention (MER) combined with altitude advantages allow the plane to perform best against its foes. However, do note you are not out of options when close to the ground as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with flaps. Another strong role for the Ta 152 H-1 is that of intercepting of heavy bombers at high altitude. Even if the bomber is trying to escape, the Ta 152 H-1 will quickly catch up to them due to the power of its engine.

The armament of the Ta-152 H-1 is fairly powerful: the minengeschoß firing [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] and 2 x [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have enough power to inflict heavy damage on most targets it will encounter. Though be aware that the 30 mm [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] only has 90 rounds at its disposal and is most efficient at close range. Meanwhile, the two [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have 175 rounds per gun for a total of 350 rounds together, and can be used with much more liberty than the 30 mm.

Enemies to be aware of in the Ta 152 H-1 are opponents such as the [[Spitfire F Mk 24]], [[F8F (Family)|F8F]], [[P-51H-5-NA]], [[F2G-1]] and [[Ki-84 (Family)|Ki-84]]. These foes can intercept and force the Ta 152 H-1 into dogfights on equal terms, trying to gain an energy or altitude advantage is key before engagement with these aircraft.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 5 gears || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact, and serves well in bomber interception
* Stable in all axes (joystick), and fairly nimble in a turn (mouse aim)
* Good armour layout protects both the pilot and engine, strong in headons
* GM-1 engine boost gives outstanding performance above 7,000 m, at these altitudes a good pilot can go head to head with any foe
* Combat flaps rip off at 700 km/h, which means you can use them at almost any speed
* Above average turnfighter for Germany, landing flaps increase turn so much that you can keep up with most fighters; even some Spitfires
* Has some of the best manoeuvring energy retention (MER) performance in the game, it will easily win a prolonged dogfight with good usage of flaps
* Excellent diver, wings only rip past 870 km/h (540 mph)
* Decently fast on the deck, can reach 580 km/h (360 mph) and will catch most enemies in a straight chase
* Very fast at high altitude (>7 km); at 12,200 m the Ta 152 H-1 will reach 755 km/h (469 mph), making it the fastest single engine German prop fighter

'''Cons:'''

* 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit
* Has a tendency to snap roll viciously, especially in a stall
* Very strong brakes, will easily flip over if not used sparingly, and is thus slower to land than most aircraft
* Losing your flaps through gunfire or otherwise is a massive detriment to turning performance and hampers your ability to dogfight effectively
* Despite having an above average roll rate, it is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
* Average climb rate, even with the airspawn it can be difficult to attain an altitude advantage over foes such as the Spitfire
* Below average ammo capacity, good trigger discipline is a must with the Ta 152 H
* Long wings increase chance of collision with enemy aircraft, especially in headons
* Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks due to wing surface area
* No external payload options or HVAP shells on the MK 108, making this strictly an air superiority plane

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude maneuverability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal center of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminum, steel spars were utilized aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152H variant

The Ta 152H-1 was refined to be more of a high-altitude fighter even so over the Ta 152C. Wings were extended a full length of 14.4 m (47.4 ft), though this lowered its overall speed, it provided substantial improvement with high-altitude handling. To aid the pilots in the higher altitude flights, the H variant was outfitted with a pressurized cockpit. The cockpit was pressurized to approximately a level comparable with 8,000 m (26,250 ft) and the canopy was comprised of two layers of which the outer was a thicker material with a thinner inner pane. To compensate for any moisture which could form between the panes, silica gel was added to aid in stemming any fogging. Unlike the 'C' variant, the 'H' only utilized a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub along with just two MG 151/20 mm autocannons, both of which were mounted in the upper fuselage. Eliminating the two wing-mounted cannons aided in increased maneuverability and less weight to make up for some of the additional weight added due to the pressurized cockpit system.

Overall the Ta 152H variant was one of the fastest piston-engine fighters to emerge during World War II, cruising around 750 km/h (465 mph) while at around 10,200 m (33,000 ft). The Ta 152H also employed the usage of GM-1 nitrous oxide boost and MW 50 methanol-water boost to briefly increase performance in the aircraft and if necessary, both could be applied at the same time.<ref name="Militaryfactory" />

=== In-game description ===
The Ta 152 was, without a doubt, the best aircraft designed by Kurt Tank for Focke-Wulf. The aircraft was a further redesign of the venerable Fw 190, namely of the Fw 190 D. The Ta 152 became possible thanks to the new high-altitude Jumo 213 and DB 603 engines.

Development began in the winter of 1942-1943, when RLM's technical department released specifications for a new 'Spezial Jaeger', or Special Fighter. The fighter was to be capable of a high-altitude interceptor role. The Ta 152 H-1 was armed with a MK 108 cannon with 85 rounds firing through the propeller hub and two MG 151/20 cannons (220 rounds per gun) in the wings. The H-1 went into serial production in January or February of 1945. A total of only 70 or so were produced, of which very few made it to front-line service.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ta-152h-1 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|5oVIzdap51E|'''The Shooting Range #212''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 04:43 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.|t3xD7JpnHeI|'''Best aircraft for Boom & Zoom''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 3:52 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|4v3fxupuZPA|'''Last piston fighters''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 1:42 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|LCVpwcd7H9s|'''{{PAGENAME}} - Strategy and Tactics - Guide - War Thunder''' - ''Green Fury''|nXeC3YM2Ds0|'''{{PAGENAME}} (FM Changes Revisit 1.79!)''' - ''Jengar''|yyB_--akcGI|'''TA IS LIFE - {{PAGENAME}}''' - ''Slick Plays''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.ru/index.php?/topic/96066-ta-152-h1/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance (Russian Forum)]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 H-1

2021-09-21T23:04:12Z

U70267797: Capitalized armour table information

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 C-3
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152h-1
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


While the Ta 152 H-1 is the ultimate evolution of the Fw 190, the [[Ta 152 C-3]] takes the Fw 190's concepts to their limit. Don't be dissuaded however, the H-1 is a different beast altogether. Fast, manoeuvrable, and stable at >350 km/h, it is more nimble than most enemies at its BR, has a decent rate of climb, great turn time (especially with flaps), and above average roll rate. The Ta 152 H-1 trades the incredible roll rate of the Fw 190 line for great energy retention and turnfighting ability. You will outclimb most competitors and will usually have an altitude advantage due to the interceptor airspawn.

If you're going to play as an interceptor, just climb high and dive on bombers. Should you fly against fighters, do not neglect your combat flaps in dogfights.

[[File:Cockpit Ta152.jpg|x150px|right|thumb|none|Cockpit of the Ta 152]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,200 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 725 || 707 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.1 || 21.3 || 14.0 || 14.0 || rowspan="2" | 315
|-
! Upgraded
| 788 || 755 || 20.3 || 20.5 || 22.2 || 17.5
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 536 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 360 || < 220 || < 500 || > 320
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|2,000 m||1,740 hp||2,063 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|6,200 m||1,556 hp||1,842 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|9,100 m||1,299 hp||1,535 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 4
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|12,200 m||999 hp||1,376 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
[[File:Ta 152 H-1 armor schematic.png|thumb|404x404px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 H-1, corresponds to the list on the left]]
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


# 15 mm Steel - Engine cowling and radiator shield
#8 mm Steel - Oil cooling system shield
#10 mm Steel - Angled pilot armour
#6 mm Steel - Instrument panel and pilot shield
#70 mm Angled bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
#20 mm Steel - Pilot's headrest
#8 mm Steel + 5 mm Steel - Behind the pilot
#5 mm Steel - Under the cockpit

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 108 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

The Ta-152 H-1 is a high altitude fighter with a wide wing span and good manoeuvrability. Unlike its heavier cousin the [[Ta 152 C-3]], the H-1's best performance is reached when flying in excess of 9 km (~30,000 ft) as this is where the engine performs at maximum efficiency. Ta 152 H-1's with altitude advantages are a deadly force to be reckoned with, having a great dive speed and energy retention, making it an efficient Hit and Run plane. With an interceptor airspawn, the average climb rate of 22 m/s (AB) and 17.5 m/s (RB) is somewhat nullified. However the pilot must be aware of planes with a climb rate in excess of 20 m/s (RB) such as Spitfires, or P-51s, as they can ''absolutely'' possess an altitude advantage at first contact, despite taking off from the ground.

Even though the Ta 152 H-1 is an high altitude fighter, it can still be a force to be reckoned with at medium and low altitudes. Being quite manoeuvrable it can do well in a dogfight if its forced into one against certain opponents, however against some opponents it will struggle with to dogfight against and is best for the Ta 152 H-1 to use its primary strengths. Its speed and manoeuvring energy retention (MER) combined with altitude advantages allow the plane to perform best against its foes. However, do note you are not out of options when close to the ground as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with flaps. Another strong role for the Ta 152 H-1 is that of intercepting of heavy bombers at high altitude. Even if the bomber is trying to escape, the Ta 152 H-1 will quickly catch up to them due to the power of its engine.

The armament of the Ta-152 H-1 is fairly powerful: the minengeschoß firing [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] and 2 x [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have enough power to inflict heavy damage on most targets it will encounter. Though be aware that the 30 mm [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] only has 90 rounds at its disposal and is most efficient at close range. Meanwhile, the two [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have 175 rounds per gun for a total of 350 rounds together, and can be used with much more liberty than the 30 mm.

Enemies to be aware of in the Ta 152 H-1 are opponents such as the [[Spitfire F Mk 24]], [[F8F (Family)|F8F]], [[P-51H-5-NA]], [[F2G-1]] and [[Ki-84 (Family)|Ki-84]]. These foes can intercept and force the Ta 152 H-1 into dogfights on equal terms, trying to gain an energy or altitude advantage is key before engagement with these aircraft.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 5 gears || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact, and serves well in bomber interception
* Stable in all axes (joystick), and fairly nimble in a turn (mouse aim)
* Good armour layout protects both the pilot and engine, strong in headons
* GM-1 engine boost gives outstanding performance above 7,000 m, at these altitudes a good pilot can go head to head with any foe
* Combat flaps rip off at 700 km/h, which means you can use them at almost any speed
* Above average turnfighter for Germany, landing flaps increase turn so much that you can keep up with most fighters; even some Spitfires
* Has some of the best manoeuvring energy retention (MER) performance in the game, it will easily win a prolonged dogfight with good usage of flaps
* Excellent diver, wings only rip past 870 km/h (540 mph)
* Decently fast on the deck, can reach 580 km/h (360 mph) and will catch most enemies in a straight chase
* Very fast at high altitude (>7 km); at 12,200 m the Ta 152 H-1 will reach 755 km/h (469 mph), making it the fastest single engine German prop fighter

'''Cons:'''

* 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit
* Has a tendency to snap roll viciously, especially in a stall
* Very strong brakes, will easily flip over if not used sparingly, and is thus slower to land than most aircraft
* Losing your flaps through gunfire or otherwise is a massive detriment to turning performance and hampers your ability to dogfight effectively
* Despite having an above average roll rate, it is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
* Average climb rate, even with the airspawn it can be difficult to attain an altitude advantage over foes such as the Spitfire
* Below average ammo capacity, good trigger discipline is a must with the Ta 152 H
* Long wings increase chance of collision with enemy aircraft, especially in headons
* Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks due to wing surface area
* No external payload options or HVAP shells on the MK 108, making this strictly an air superiority plane

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude maneuverability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal center of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminum, steel spars were utilized aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152H variant

The Ta 152H-1 was refined to be more of a high-altitude fighter even so over the Ta 152C. Wings were extended a full length of 14.4 m (47.4 ft), though this lowered its overall speed, it provided substantial improvement with high-altitude handling. To aid the pilots in the higher altitude flights, the H variant was outfitted with a pressurized cockpit. The cockpit was pressurized to approximately a level comparable with 8,000 m (26,250 ft) and the canopy was comprised of two layers of which the outer was a thicker material with a thinner inner pane. To compensate for any moisture which could form between the panes, silica gel was added to aid in stemming any fogging. Unlike the 'C' variant, the 'H' only utilized a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub along with just two MG 151/20 mm autocannons, both of which were mounted in the upper fuselage. Eliminating the two wing-mounted cannons aided in increased maneuverability and less weight to make up for some of the additional weight added due to the pressurized cockpit system.

Overall the Ta 152H variant was one of the fastest piston-engine fighters to emerge during World War II, cruising around 750 km/h (465 mph) while at around 10,200 m (33,000 ft). The Ta 152H also employed the usage of GM-1 nitrous oxide boost and MW 50 methanol-water boost to briefly increase performance in the aircraft and if necessary, both could be applied at the same time.<ref name="Militaryfactory" />

=== In-game description ===
The Ta 152 was, without a doubt, the best aircraft designed by Kurt Tank for Focke-Wulf. The aircraft was a further redesign of the venerable Fw 190, namely of the Fw 190 D. The Ta 152 became possible thanks to the new high-altitude Jumo 213 and DB 603 engines.

Development began in the winter of 1942-1943, when RLM's technical department released specifications for a new 'Spezial Jaeger', or Special Fighter. The fighter was to be capable of a high-altitude interceptor role. The Ta 152 H-1 was armed with a MK 108 cannon with 85 rounds firing through the propeller hub and two MG 151/20 cannons (220 rounds per gun) in the wings. The H-1 went into serial production in January or February of 1945. A total of only 70 or so were produced, of which very few made it to front-line service.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ta-152h-1 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|5oVIzdap51E|'''The Shooting Range #212''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 04:43 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.|t3xD7JpnHeI|'''Best aircraft for Boom & Zoom''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 3:52 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|4v3fxupuZPA|'''Last piston fighters''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 1:42 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|LCVpwcd7H9s|'''{{PAGENAME}} - Strategy and Tactics - Guide - War Thunder''' - ''Green Fury''|nXeC3YM2Ds0|'''{{PAGENAME}} (FM Changes Revisit 1.79!)''' - ''Jengar''|yyB_--akcGI|'''TA IS LIFE - {{PAGENAME}}''' - ''Slick Plays''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.ru/index.php?/topic/96066-ta-152-h1/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance (Russian Forum)]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 H-1

2021-09-21T22:06:43Z

U70267797: Clarified speed at altitude, added F2G-1 to list of enemies to watch out for

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 C-3
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152h-1
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


While the Ta 152 H-1 is the ultimate evolution of the Fw 190, the [[Ta 152 C-3]] takes the 190s concepts to their limit. Don't be dissuaded however, the H-1 is a different beast altogether. Fast, manoeuvrable, and stable at >350 km/h, it is more nimble than most enemies at its BR, has a decent rate of climb, great turn time (especially with flaps), and above average roll rate. The Ta 152 H-1 trades the incredible roll rate of the Fw 190 line for great energy retention and turnfighting ability. You will outclimb most competitors and will usually have an altitude advantage due to the interceptor airspawn.

If you're going to play as an interceptor, just climb high and dive on bombers. Should you fly against fighters, do not neglect your combat flaps in dogfights.

[[File:Cockpit Ta152.jpg|x150px|right|thumb|none|Cockpit of the Ta 152]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,200 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 725 || 707 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.1 || 21.3 || 14.0 || 14.0 || rowspan="2" | 315
|-
! Upgraded
| 788 || 755 || 20.3 || 20.5 || 22.2 || 17.5
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 536 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 360 || < 220 || < 500 || > 320
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|2,000 m||1,740 hp||2,063 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|6,200 m||1,556 hp||1,842 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|9,100 m||1,299 hp||1,535 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 4
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|12,200 m||999 hp||1,376 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
[[File:Ta 152 H-1 armor schematic.png|thumb|404x404px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 H-1, corresponds to the list on the left]]
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


# 15 mm steel - engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm steel - oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm steel - angled pilot armour
# 6 mm steel - in front of the pilot
# 70 mm angled bulletproof glass - armoured windscreen
# 20 mm steel - pilot's headrest
# 8 mm steel + 5 mm steel - behind the pilot
# 5 mm steel - under the cockpit

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 108 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

The Ta-152 H-1 is a high altitude fighter with a wide wing span and good manoeuvrability. Unlike its heavier cousin the [[Ta 152 C-3]], the H-1's best performance is reached when flying in excess of 9 km (~30,000 ft) as this is where the engine performs at maximum efficiency. Ta 152 H-1's with altitude advantages are a deadly force to be reckoned with, having a great dive speed and energy retention, making it an efficient Hit and Run plane. With an interceptor airspawn, the average climb rate of 22 m/s (AB) and 17.5 m/s (RB) is somewhat nullified. However the pilot must be aware of planes with a climb rate in excess of 20 m/s (RB) such as Spitfires, or P-51s, as they can ''absolutely'' possess an altitude advantage at first contact, despite taking off from the ground.

Even though the Ta 152 H-1 is an high altitude fighter, it can still be a force to be reckoned with at medium and low altitudes. Being quite manoeuvrable it can do well in a dogfight if its forced into one against certain opponents, however against some opponents it will struggle with to dogfight against and is best for the Ta 152 H-1 to use its primary strengths. Its speed and manoeuvring energy retention (MER) combined with altitude advantages allow the plane to perform best against its foes. However, do note you are not out of options when close to the ground as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with flaps. Another strong role for the Ta 152 H-1 is that of intercepting of heavy bombers at high altitude. Even if the bomber is trying to escape, the Ta 152 H-1 will quickly catch up to them due to the power of its engine.

The armament of the Ta-152 H-1 is fairly powerful: the minengeschoß firing [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] and 2 x [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have enough power to inflict heavy damage on most targets it will encounter. Though be aware that the 30 mm [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] only has 90 rounds at its disposal and is most efficient at close range. Meanwhile, the two [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have 175 rounds per gun for a total of 350 rounds together, and can be used with much more liberty than the 30 mm.

Enemies to be aware of in the Ta 152 H-1 are opponents such as the [[Spitfire F Mk 24]], [[F8F (Family)|F8F]], [[P-51H-5-NA]], [[F2G-1]] and [[Ki-84 (Family)|Ki-84]]. These foes can intercept and force the Ta 152 H-1 into dogfights on equal terms, trying to gain an energy or altitude advantage is key before engagement with these aircraft.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 5 gears || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact, and serves well in bomber interception
* Stable in all axes (joystick), and fairly nimble in a turn (mouse aim)
* Good armour layout protects both the pilot and engine, strong in headons
* GM-1 engine boost gives outstanding performance above 7,000 m, at these altitudes a good pilot can go head to head with any foe
* Combat flaps rip off at 700 km/h, which means you can use them at almost any speed
* Above average turnfighter for Germany, landing flaps increase turn so much that you can keep up with most fighters; even some Spitfires
* Has some of the best manoeuvring energy retention (MER) performance in the game, it will easily win a prolonged dogfight with good usage of flaps
* Excellent diver, wings only rip past 870 km/h (540 mph)
* Decently fast on the deck, can reach 580 km/h (360 mph) and will catch most enemies in a straight chase
* Very fast at high altitude (>7 km); at 12,200 km/h the Ta 152 H-1 will reach 755 km/h (469 mph), making it the fastest single engine German prop fighter

'''Cons:'''

* 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit
* Has a tendency to snap roll viciously, especially in a stall
* Very strong brakes, will easily flip over if not used sparingly, and is thus slower to land than most aircraft
* Losing your flaps through gunfire or otherwise is a massive detriment to turning performance and hampers your ability to dogfight effectively
* Despite having an above average roll rate, it is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
* Average climb rate, even with the airspawn it can be difficult to attain an altitude advantage over foes such as the Spitfire
* Below average ammo capacity, good trigger discipline is a must with the Ta 152 H
* Long wings increase chance of collision with enemy aircraft, especially in headons
* Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks due to wing surface area
* No external payload options or HVAP shells on the MK 108, making this strictly an air superiority plane

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude maneuverability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal center of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminum, steel spars were utilized aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152H variant

The Ta 152H-1 was refined to be more of a high-altitude fighter even so over the Ta 152C. Wings were extended a full length of 14.4 m (47.4 ft), though this lowered its overall speed, it provided substantial improvement with high-altitude handling. To aid the pilots in the higher altitude flights, the H variant was outfitted with a pressurized cockpit. The cockpit was pressurized to approximately a level comparable with 8,000 m (26,250 ft) and the canopy was comprised of two layers of which the outer was a thicker material with a thinner inner pane. To compensate for any moisture which could form between the panes, silica gel was added to aid in stemming any fogging. Unlike the 'C' variant, the 'H' only utilized a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub along with just two MG 151/20 mm autocannons, both of which were mounted in the upper fuselage. Eliminating the two wing-mounted cannons aided in increased maneuverability and less weight to make up for some of the additional weight added due to the pressurized cockpit system.

Overall the Ta 152H variant was one of the fastest piston-engine fighters to emerge during World War II, cruising around 750 kph (465 mph) while at around 10,200 m (33,000 ft). The Ta 152H also employed the usage of GM-1 nitrous oxide boost and MW 50 methanol-water boost to briefly increase performance in the aircraft and if necessary, both could be applied at the same time.<ref name="Militaryfactory" />

=== In-game description ===
The Ta 152 was, without a doubt, the best aircraft designed by Kurt Tank for Focke-Wulf. The aircraft was a further redesign of the venerable Fw 190, namely of the Fw 190 D. The Ta 152 became possible thanks to the new high-altitude Jumo 213 and DB 603 engines.

Development began in the winter of 1942-1943, when RLM's technical department released specifications for a new 'Spezial Jaeger', or Special Fighter. The fighter was to be capable of a high-altitude interceptor role. The Ta 152 H-1 was armed with a MK 108 cannon with 85 rounds firing through the propeller hub and two MG 151/20 cannons (220 rounds per gun) in the wings. The H-1 went into serial production in January or February of 1945. A total of only 70 or so were produced, of which very few made it to front-line service.

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== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.ru/index.php?/topic/96066-ta-152-h1/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance (Russian Forum)]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

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Bostwick's P-47M-1-RE

2021-09-21T22:01:29Z

U70267797: Added relevant information and fixed errors

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== Description ==

'''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} American fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.49 "Weapons of Victory"]]. The Republic P-47M was the fastest of the production model Thunderbolts. The plane is painted after the camouflage scheme of American pilot George E. Bostwick in the US Army Air Force in the 56th Fighter Group.

The P-47M is a high-altitude interceptor that has impressive armament and ordnance that serves it well in both the fighter and Close Air Support role. In Air RB, it is currently unequalled in performance at a 5.7 battle rating, possessing ridiculous top speed, competitive climb rate, decent energy retention, great armament, and surprising manoeuvrability at speed.

As such, the P-47M is best played to its strengths as a Boom & Zoom and Boom & Run fighter in Air RB. In Ground RB it is an excellent fighter bomber with a good rocket/bomb load-out and .50 cals that can deal with most turret roofs.

The M variant was specifically setup to intercept Germany's buzz-bombs and the new [[Me 262 A-1a|jet]]/[[Me 163 B|rocket]] powered fighters. The primary advantage of this new variant came through speed. The aircraft was powered by either a Pratt & Whitney R-2800-14W or R-2800-5 engine while using the CH-5 turbo-supercharger. The aircraft was able to produce 2,800 hp, giving it higher top speed.

In War Thunder Air RB, the P-47M sits at a battle rating of 5.7 while having the performance qualities of super-props. Top speeds above 5 km exceed literally any opponent besides the [[Ta 152 H-1]] (which is only faster at around 11-12 km). Climb rate is great, at around an average of 23 m/s from 0-6000 m. WEP is available for up to 12 minutes to maximize engine output.

Interestingly (besides the better engine), the P-47M gets a unique airbrake which makes it very easy to stick behind the tails of opponents in a high-speed dive.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 9,144 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 726 || 711 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 25.3 || 26.1 || 10.8 || 10.8 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 794 || 760 || 22.8 || 24.0 || 23.3 || 15.9
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 498 || 469 || 320 || ~13 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 400 || < 420 || < 470 || > 335
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


* 9.5 mm Steel - Seat back and headrest armour plate
* 38 mm Bulletproof glass - Windscreen

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|M2 Browning (12.7 mm)}}

'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 8 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (425 rpg = 3,400 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|HVAR}}

'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==


First of all, the P-47 should '''always''' fly fast. No matter the altitude, it is recommended to fly at speeds higher than 520 km/h (~320 mph). One of the few things the P-47 is terrible at doing is prolonged dogfighting. Imagine a truck loaded with cement with wings strapped to the side. Congratulations, you just pictured a P-47 flying at low speeds. Now, with this out of the way you must remember one thing and one thing only, when and where possible, fly high, the higher the better. The higher in altitude the P-47 goes the better the engine performs compared to its potential adversaries. The best altitude for the P-47M is around 9,000 meters (~30,000 ft), but it still can perform very good at lower altitudes ranging from 6,000 meters (~20,000 ft) to 8,000 meters (~26,000 ft). One drawback of the P-47M's engine is that it can easily overheat when using WEP for extended periods of time, however just disabling WEP for few seconds should be enough to cool down the powerful Pratt & Whitney powerplant hidden under the hood.

====== Combat tactics ======
'''Arcade:''' In AB much of what was mentioned above can be disregarded due to the adjusted flight model of arcade battles, instead just put your throttle to WEP, climb above your enemies and Boom & Zoom them. It is important to realize that while the P-47 can be the king of the hill, there are a few others which will buck for the spot too including Spitfires, Fw 190s and Bf 109s as they can climb as good as you and they often have cannons which in no time can dismantle a P-47 quickly in flight.

'''Air Realistic:''' In RB P-47M's pilot should '''not''' take any additional armaments such as bombs and rockets, they will only slow down the plane and make it an easy prey for Bf 109 K-4s, Ta 152s and Fw 190s. As soon as you take off from the airfield divert 30 degrees to left or right (depends on where the middle of the map is, just don't climb towards the middle), engage WEP and climb at ~17-18 degrees. The best speed for climbing is around ~267 km/h (~165 mph). When you reach an altitude of about 5,500 meters (18,000 ft) start to gradually turn towards the middle of the map. Watch out for any enemy planes coming towards you, especially the Ta 152s and Bf 109 K-4s which are the biggest threats as they have similar performance output compared to the P-47M. At ~6,000 meters you will notice that climbing at 18 degrees makes your plane go slower and is necessary to adjust the angle of attack to 10-15 degrees. It is also a plausible option to stop climbing at this point since you will probably be above everyone. Next, it is recommended to fly level and gain some speed, but not more than 400 km/h (~250 mph). In this situation, the P-47 will reign supreme over the skies, look around you, see if there are any enemy planes spotted and pick off the easiest targets, preferably slow-flying fighters which are flying straight. If you cannot see such targets go for other fighters, 109s and G.55s are your priority targets, as they can easily kill you if you are not careful.

Always perform powered dives, and if you feel you're going too fast just extend the airbrakes long enough to reign in the aircraft's speed. This is one of the biggest advantages of P-47M over the D-series and other comparable prop fighters. When you are over with the ''Boom'' portion of the flying do not climb outright, instead, speed away from the enemies (preferably towards your teammates) increasing distance between you and anyone tailing. When you gain ~3 km (~2 miles) of separation from enemy planes you can do the ''Zoom'' part of the tactic or keep running if you're feeling that the enemy planes could catch up to you. Climb at 10 degrees and gain enough altitude to ensure that you have an energy advantage above enemy planes. In most dire situations you can try to go for head-on (only if you have at least 2.5 km separation from the enemy) attack, but it's not recommended to do that as you will most likely damage your engine in the process. In the worst-case scenario, the fighter will catch fire and burn up. If you see an enemy fighter which is attempting to dive at you, try to force them to overshoot, call for help and fly towards your closest teammate. You can shrug off few hits to the fuselage but anything that touches your wings and elevators will most likely disable or destroy the aircraft's ability to fly well or at all. Flying with your friends also helps as you can quickly call them to assist you. If you're the only one left on your team you should climb, look out for enemy fighters and Boom & Zoom them, just keep in mind that P-47 is not the best plane to do 1 vs 2 dogfights in. Try to separate enemies and pick them off one by one. Bombers are typically a difficult target to go after as they usually soak up quite a bit of ammunition before taking critical damage and you risk being set afire or sniped by the defensive gunners. However, the long effective range and shallow drop of the .50 cals makes it possible to attack some bombers from outside their own gunners' effective range.

It's important to remember that the P-47's first and foremost mission is air superiority, especially in the case of the P-47M. Taking bombs and rockets will make your plane even more sluggish than it already is and because of that you will have to fly near the ground, and that typically makes the P-47 easy pickings for other enemy fighters. This is not to say you should never attack ground targets however, and there are certain situations where it is more rewarding (e.g. no enemy fighters left). With a large ammunition pool of 3,400 .50 cal rounds, there will almost certainly be enough left over to wreak substantial havoc on soft targets. It's also important to note that the ''Ground Targets'' and ''Tracers'' belts are capable of destroying light pillboxes with ~250 rounds. For more flexibility in attacking, it is sometimes beneficial to take on ordinance, but you should only do this after expending all of your .50 cal ammunition. The two 1000 lb and 500 lb bombs as well as eight HVAR rockets mean it is possible to engage hard targets such as tanks. Again, it must be remembered that this should only seriously be considered if the relative danger to your aircraft is virtually zero. But if this is the case, it is very rewarding to the player as well as helps win the game faster.

It is important to mention the two schools of thought regarding the ammunition belts for .50 cals. The first one says that you should use ''Ground Targets'' belts because of the high amount of armour piercing rounds which do a lot of damage and can easily shred anything hit with them. However, the second school of thought states one should use ''Tracers'' belts because they have the highest chance of setting the enemy on fire which will typically leads to a fiery destruction of the enemy aircraft. But, there's one thing everyone agrees on: don't use ''Default'' belts, as the other available belts have a higher ratio of more damaging AP-T, API, and API-T bullets.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Separate || Controllable 1 gear || Auto controlled
|-
|}

* To get the best performance out of your Pratt & Whitney R-2800-14W

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Forgiving aircraft
* Eight deadly .50 cal M2 Brownings
* Great ground-attack ordnance selection
* Unrivalled high altitude performance
* Very good high-speed manoeuvrability
* Enemies are often surprised by the enhanced performance of what is usually seen as an easy target
* Good climb rate; can keep up with many fighters at its battle rating, unlike its earlier variants
* Airbrakes
* Radial engine is good at soaking up damage from the rest of the aircraft
* Access to premium bonuses in Silver Lion and Research Points

'''Cons:'''

* Payloads encourage a low-altitude attacker playstyle, playing into P-47M's disadvantages
* Limited top speed of ~530 kph on the deck as the turbocharger doesn't produce much extra horsepower
* This inadequate top speed near the ground means most enemy fighters will be able to catch you; don't let this happen
* Poor low-speed manoeuvrability; a prolonged turnfight almost always ends badly for the P-47M
* Large size and wingspan makes it easier for enemy fighters to score hits on you
* While protective, the engine will typically suffer disproportionately at the cost of keeping the plane intact
* Engine easily catches fire when hit by 13/15/20 mm shells

== History ==


Four P-47D-27 Aircraft were pulled from the production line at the Farmingdale factory and were fitted with the Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57(C) engine. They were also equipped with a larger CH-5 turbo-supercharger allowing the aircraft to reach 2,800 hp at 32,000 feet. Air brakes were also added underneath the wings to aid in deceleration and recovery during dives. These four prototypes were re-designated YP-47M.

The engine installations were eventually added to the last 130 P-47D-30s from Farmingdale in Sept of 1944. They were all re-designated P-47M-1-RE. It is important to note that the under-wing racks were not fitted to this aircraft. It was intended to be strictly a fighter. They were delivered in Dec. of 1944. The dorsal fins were later added as a field modification.

The M-variant saw service with the 56th Fighter Group but problems with the new highly tuned R-2800 delayed their use until the last weeks of the war in Europe. At one point the aircraft was pulled from service and replaced with D variants until the aircraft performed reliably. The P-47M was never used against V-1 flying bombs, its original target.

The P-47M is most remembered for Major George Bostwick's engagements with the [[Me 262 A-1a|Me 262]]. Bostwick shot down a Me 262 on March 25 1945. He was able to damage a second one a few days later on April 7th.

His P-47M-1-RE had the nickname "Ugly Duckling" and a striking paint scheme.

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== See also ==


;Related development

* [[P-47 (Family)]]

;Carbon-copy vehicles

* [[Lanovski's P-47M-1-RE]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/3073/current/|[Series] Maj. George Bostwick's P-47 Thunderbolt]]
* [http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/234553-republic-p-47m/ Official WT forum Aircraft Data Sheet section: "Republic P-47M"]

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Bostwick's P-47M-1-RE

2021-09-18T02:00:01Z

U70267797: Added link to Ta 152 H-1 in the description

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== Description ==

'''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} American fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.49 "Weapons of Victory"]]. The Republic P-47M was the fastest of the production model Thunderbolts. The plane is painted after the camouflage scheme of American pilot George E. Bostwick in the US Army Air Force in the 56th Fighter Group.

The P-47M is a high-altitude interceptor that has impressive armament and ordnance that serves it well in both the fighter and Close Air Support role. In Air RB, it is currently unequalled in performance at a 5.7 battle rating, possessing ridiculous top speed, competitive climb rate, decent energy retention, great armament, and surprising manoeuvrability at speed.

As such, the P-47M is best played to its strengths as a Boom & Zoom and Boom & Run fighter in Air RB. In Ground RB it is an excellent fighter bomber with a good rocket/bomb load-out and .50 cals that can deal with most turret roofs.

The M variant was specifically setup to intercept Germany's buzz-bombs and the new [[Me 262 A-1a|jet]]/[[Me 163 B|rocket]] powered fighters. The primary advantage of this new variant came through speed. The aircraft was powered by either a Pratt & Whitney R-2800-14W or R-2800-5 engine while using the CH-5 turbo-supercharger. The aircraft was able to produce 2,800 hp, giving it higher top speed.

In War Thunder Air RB, the P-47M sits at a battle rating of 5.7 while having the performance qualities of super-props. Top speeds above 5 km exceed literally any opponent besides the [[Ta 152 H-1]] (which is only capable of competing at around 9-10 km). Climb rate is great, at around an average of 23 m/s from 0-6000 m. WEP is available for up to 12 minutes to maximize engine output.

Interestingly (besides the better engine), the P-47M gets a unique airbrake which makes it very easy to stick behind the tails of opponents in a high-speed dive.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 9,144 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 726 || 711 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 25.3 || 26.1 || 10.8 || 10.8 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 794 || 760 || 22.8 || 24.0 || 23.3 || 15.9
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 498 || 469 || 320 || ~13 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 400 || < 420 || < 470 || > 335
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


* 9.5 mm Steel - Seat back and headrest armour plate
* 38 mm Bulletproof glass - Windscreen

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|M2 Browning (12.7 mm)}}

'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 8 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (425 rpg = 3,400 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|HVAR}}

'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==


First of all, the P-47 should '''always''' fly fast. No matter the altitude, it is recommended to fly at speeds higher than 520 km/h (~320 mph). One of the few things the P-47 is terrible at doing is dogfighting. Imagine a truck loaded with cement with wings strapped to the side. Congratulations, you just pictured a P-47 flying at low speeds. Now, with this out of the way you must remember one thing and one thing only, when and where possible, fly high, the higher the better. The higher in altitude the P-47 goes the better the engine performs compared to its potential adversaries. The best altitude for the P-47M is around 9,000 meters (~30,000 ft), but it still can perform very good at lower altitudes ranging from 6,000 meters (~20,000 ft) to 8,000 meters (~26,000 ft). One drawback of the P-47M's engine is that it can easily overheat when using WEP for extended periods of time, however just disabling WEP for few seconds should be enough to cool down the powerful Pratt & Whitney powerplant hidden under the hood.

====== Combat tactics ======
'''Arcade:''' In AB much of what was mentioned above can be disregarded due to the adjusted flight model of arcade battles, instead just put your throttle to WEP, climb above your enemies and Boom & Zoom them. It is important to realize that while the P-47 can be the king of the hill, there are a few others which will buck for the spot too including Spitfires, Fw 190s and Bf 109s as they can climb as good as you and they often have cannons which in no time can dismantle a P-47 quickly in flight.

'''Air Realistic:''' In RB P-47M's pilot should '''not''' take any additional armaments such as bombs and rockets, they will only slow down the plane and make it an easy prey for Bf 109 K-4s, Ta 152s and Fw 190s. As soon as you take off from the airfield divert 30 degrees to left or right (depends on where the middle of the map is, just don't climb towards the middle), engage WEP and climb at ~17-18 degrees. The best speed for climbing is around ~267 km/h (~165 mph). When you reach an altitude of about 5,500 meters (18,000 ft) start to gradually turn towards the middle of the map. Watch out for any enemy planes coming towards you, especially the Ta 152s and Bf 109 K-4s which are the biggest threats as they have similar performance output compared to the P-47M. At ~6,000 meters you will notice that climbing at 18 degrees makes your plane go slower and is necessary to adjust the angle of attack to 10-15 degrees. It is also a plausible option to stop climbing at this point since you will probably be above everyone. Next, it is recommended to fly level and gain some speed, but not more than 400 km/h (~250 mph). In this situation, the P-47 will reign supreme over the skies, look around you, see if there are any enemy planes spotted and pick off the easiest targets, preferably slow-flying fighters which are flying straight. If you cannot see such targets go for other fighters, 109s and G.55s are your priority targets, as they can easily kill you if you are not careful.

Always perform powered dive and if you feel you're going too fast just extend the airbrakes long enough to reign in the aircraft's speed which is one of the biggest advantages of P-47M over the D-series and other comparable non-allied prop fighters. When you are over with the ''Boom'' portion of the flying do not climb outright, instead, speed away from the enemies (preferably towards your teammates) increasing distance between you and anyone tailing. When you gain ~3 km (~2 miles) of separation from enemy planes you can do the ''Zoom'' part of the tactic or keep running if you're feeling that the enemy planes could catch up to you. Climb at 10 degrees and gain enough altitude to ensure that you have an energy advantage above enemy planes. In most dire situations you can try to go for head-on (only if you have at least 2.5 km separation from the enemy) attack, but it's not recommended to do that as you will most likely damage your engine in the process. In the worst-case scenario, the fighter will catch fire and burn up. If you see an enemy fighter which is attempting to dive at you, try to force them to overshoot, call for help and fly towards your closest teammate. You can shrug off few hits to the fuselage but anything that touches your wings and elevators will most likely disable or destroy the aircraft's ability to fly well or at all. Flying with your friends also helps as you can quickly call them to assist you. If you're the only one left on your team you should climb, look out for enemy fighters and Boom & Zoom them, just keep in mind that P-47 is not the best plane to do 1 vs 2 in. Try to separate enemies and pick them off one by one.

The last thing you should do in P-47 is ground-pound in realistic battles. Taking bombs and rockets will make your plane even more sluggish than it already is and because of that you will have to fly near the ground, and that typically makes the P-47 easy pickings for other enemy fighters. Bombers are typically a difficult target to go after as they usually soak up quite a bit of ammunition before taking critical damage and you risk being set afire or sniped by the defensive gunners.

It is important to mention the two schools of thought regarding the ammunition belts for .50 cals. The first one says that you should use ''Ground Targets'' belts because of the high amount of armour piercing rounds which do a lot of damage and can easily shred anything hit with them. However, the second school of thought states one should use ''Tracers'' belts because they have the highest chance of setting the enemy on fire which will typically leads to a fiery destruction of the enemy aircraft. But, there's one thing everyone agrees on: Don't use ''Default'' belts, upgrade away from them as soon as possible.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Separate || Controllable 1 gear || Auto controlled
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Forgiving aircraft
* Eight deadly .50 cal M2 Brownings
* Good ground-attack ordnance selection
* Unrivalled high altitude performance
* Very good high-speed manoeuvrability
* Good climb rate
* Airbrakes
* Radial engine is generally resistant to damage
* Access to premium bonuses in Silver Lion and Research Points

'''Cons:'''

* Payloads encourage a low-altitude attacker playstyle, playing into P-47M's disadvantages
* Poor low-Speed manoeuvrability
* Large size and wingspan makes it an easy target for enemy fighters
* Engine damage is very likely in head-ons
* Engine easily catches fire when hit by 13/15/20 mm shells

== History ==


Four P-47D-27 Aircraft were pulled from the production line at the Farmingdale factory and were fitted with the Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57(C) engine. They were also equipped with a larger CH-5 turbo-supercharger allowing the aircraft to reach 2,800 hp at 32,000 feet. Air brakes were also added underneath the wings to aid in deceleration and recovery during dives. These four prototypes were re-designated YP-47M.

The engine installations were eventually added to the last 130 P-47D-30s from Farmingdale in Sept of 1944. They were all re-designated P-47M-1-RE. It is important to note that the under-wing racks were not fitted to this aircraft. It was intended to be strictly a fighter. They were delivered in Dec. of 1944. The dorsal fins were later added as a field modification.

The M-variant saw service with the 56th Fighter Group but problems with the new highly tuned R-2800 delayed their use until the last weeks of the war in Europe. At one point the aircraft was pulled from service and replaced with D variants until the aircraft performed reliably. The P-47M was never used against V-1 flying bombs, its original target.

The P-47M is most remembered for Major George Bostwick's engagements with the [[Me 262 A-1a|Me 262]]. Bostwick shot down a Me 262 on March 25 1945. He was able to damage a second one a few days later on April 7th.

His P-47M-1-RE had the nickname "Ugly Duckling" and a striking paint scheme.

== Media ==


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== See also ==


;Related development

* [[P-47 (Family)]]

;Carbon-copy vehicles

* [[Lanovski's P-47M-1-RE]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/3073/current/|[Series] Maj. George Bostwick's P-47 Thunderbolt]]
* [http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/234553-republic-p-47m/ Official WT forum Aircraft Data Sheet section: "Republic P-47M"]

{{AirManufacturer Republic}}
{{USA fighters}}
{{USA premium aircraft}}

Ta 152 H-1

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U70267797: Fixed grammar

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 C-3
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152h-1
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


While the Ta 152 H-1 is the ultimate evolution of the Fw 190, the [[Ta 152 C-3]] takes the 190s concepts to their limit. Don't be dissuaded however, the H-1 is a different beast altogether. Fast, manoeuvrable, and stable at >350 km/h, it is more nimble than most enemies at its BR, has a decent rate of climb, great turn time (especially with flaps), and above average roll rate. The Ta 152 H-1 trades the incredible roll rate of the Fw 190 line for great energy retention and turnfighting ability. You will outclimb most competitors and will usually have an altitude advantage due to the interceptor airspawn.

If you're going to play as an interceptor, just climb high and dive on bombers. Should you fly against fighters, do not neglect your combat flaps in dogfights.

[[File:Cockpit Ta152.jpg|x150px|right|thumb|none|Cockpit of the Ta 152]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,200 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 725 || 707 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.1 || 21.3 || 14.0 || 14.0 || rowspan="2" | 315
|-
! Upgraded
| 788 || 755 || 20.3 || 20.5 || 22.2 || 17.5
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 536 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 360 || < 220 || < 500 || > 320
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|2,000 m||1,740 hp||2,063 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|6,200 m||1,556 hp||1,842 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|9,100 m||1,299 hp||1,535 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 4
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|12,200 m||999 hp||1,376 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
[[File:Ta 152 H-1 armor schematic.png|thumb|404x404px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 H-1, corresponds to the list on the left]]
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


# 15 mm steel - engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm steel - oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm steel - angled pilot armour
# 6 mm steel - in front of the pilot
# 70 mm angled bulletproof glass - armoured windscreen
# 20 mm steel - pilot's headrest
# 8 mm steel + 5 mm steel - behind the pilot
# 5 mm steel - under the cockpit

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 108 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

The Ta-152 H-1 is a high altitude fighter with a wide wing span and good manoeuvrability. Unlike its heavier cousin the [[Ta 152 C-3]], the H-1's best performance is reached when flying in excess of 9 km (~30,000 ft) as this is where the engine performs at maximum efficiency. Ta 152 H-1's with altitude advantages are a deadly force to be reckoned with, having a great dive speed and energy retention, making it an efficient Hit and Run plane. With an interceptor airspawn, the average climb rate of 22 m/s (AB) and 17.5 m/s (RB) is somewhat nullified. However the pilot must be aware of planes with a climb rate in excess of 20 m/s (RB) such as Spitfires, or P-51s, as they can ''absolutely'' possess an altitude advantage at first contact, despite taking off from the ground.

Even though the Ta 152 H-1 is an high altitude fighter, it can still be a force to be reckoned with at medium and low altitudes. Being quite manoeuvrable it can do well in a dogfight if its forced into one against certain opponents, however against some opponents it will struggle with to dogfight against and is best for the Ta 152 H-1 to use its primary strengths. Its speed and manoeuvring energy retention (MER) combined with altitude advantages allow the plane to perform best against its foes. However, do note you are not out of options when close to the ground as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with flaps. Another strong role for the Ta 152 H-1 is that of intercepting of heavy bombers at high altitude. Even if the bomber is trying to escape, the Ta 152 H-1 will quickly catch up to them due to the power of its engine.

The armament of the Ta-152 H-1 is fairly powerful: the minengeschoß firing [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] and 2 x [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have enough power to inflict heavy damage on most targets it will encounter. Though be aware that the 30 mm [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] only has 90 rounds at its disposal and is most efficient at close range. Meanwhile, the two [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have 175 rounds per gun for a total of 350 rounds together, and can be used with much more liberty than the 30 mm.

Enemies to be aware of in the Ta 152 H-1 are opponents such as the [[Spitfire F Mk 24]], [[F8F (Family)|F8F]], [[P-51H-5-NA]] and [[Ki-84 (Family)|Ki-84]]. These foes can intercept and force the Ta 152 H-1 into dogfights on equal terms, trying to gain an energy or altitude advantage is key before engagement with these aircraft.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 5 gears || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact, and serves well in bomber interception
* Stable in all axes (joystick), and fairly nimble in a turn (mouse aim)
* Good armour layout protects both the pilot and engine, strong in headons
* GM-1 engine boost gives outstanding performance above 7,000 m, at these altitudes a good pilot can go head to head with any foe
* Combat flaps rip off at 700 km/h, which means you can use them at almost any speed
* Above average turnfighter for Germany, landing flaps increase turn so much that you can keep up with most fighters; even some Spitfires
* Has some of the best manoeuvring energy retention (MER) performance in the game, it will easily win a prolonged dogfight with good usage of flaps
* Excellent diver, wings only rip past 870 km/h (540 mph)
* Decently fast on the deck, can reach 580 km/h (360 mph) and will catch most enemies in a straight chase
* Very fast at high altitude (>7 km), where the Ta 152 H-1 will reach 755 km/h (469 mph), making it the fastest single engine German prop fighter

'''Cons:'''

* 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit
* Has a tendency to snap roll viciously, especially in a stall
* Very strong brakes, will easily flip over if not used sparingly, and is thus slower to land than most aircraft
* Losing your flaps through gunfire or otherwise is a massive detriment to turning performance and hampers your ability to dogfight effectively
* Despite having an above average roll rate, it is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
* Average climb rate, even with the airspawn it can be difficult to attain an altitude advantage over foes such as the Spitfire
* Below average ammo capacity, good trigger discipline is a must with the Ta 152 H
* Long wings increase chance of collision with enemy aircraft, especially in headons
* Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks due to wing surface area
* No external payload options or HVAP shells on the MK 108, making this strictly an air superiority plane

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude maneuverability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal center of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminum, steel spars were utilized aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152H variant

The Ta 152H-1 was refined to be more of a high-altitude fighter even so over the Ta 152C. Wings were extended a full length of 14.4 m (47.4 ft), though this lowered its overall speed, it provided substantial improvement with high-altitude handling. To aid the pilots in the higher altitude flights, the H variant was outfitted with a pressurized cockpit. The cockpit was pressurized to approximately a level comparable with 8,000 m (26,250 ft) and the canopy was comprised of two layers of which the outer was a thicker material with a thinner inner pane. To compensate for any moisture which could form between the panes, silica gel was added to aid in stemming any fogging. Unlike the 'C' variant, the 'H' only utilized a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub along with just two MG 151/20 mm autocannons, both of which were mounted in the upper fuselage. Eliminating the two wing-mounted cannons aided in increased maneuverability and less weight to make up for some of the additional weight added due to the pressurized cockpit system.

Overall the Ta 152H variant was one of the fastest piston-engine fighters to emerge during World War II, cruising around 750 kph (465 mph) while at around 10,200 m (33,000 ft). The Ta 152H also employed the usage of GM-1 nitrous oxide boost and MW 50 methanol-water boost to briefly increase performance in the aircraft and if necessary, both could be applied at the same time.<ref name="Militaryfactory" />

=== In-game description ===
The Ta 152 was, without a doubt, the best aircraft designed by Kurt Tank for Focke-Wulf. The aircraft was a further redesign of the venerable Fw 190, namely of the Fw 190 D. The Ta 152 became possible thanks to the new high-altitude Jumo 213 and DB 603 engines.

Development began in the winter of 1942-1943, when RLM's technical department released specifications for a new 'Spezial Jaeger', or Special Fighter. The fighter was to be capable of a high-altitude interceptor role. The Ta 152 H-1 was armed with a MK 108 cannon with 85 rounds firing through the propeller hub and two MG 151/20 cannons (220 rounds per gun) in the wings. The H-1 went into serial production in January or February of 1945. A total of only 70 or so were produced, of which very few made it to front-line service.

== Media ==


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;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|5oVIzdap51E|'''The Shooting Range #212''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 04:43 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.|t3xD7JpnHeI|'''Best aircraft for Boom & Zoom''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 3:52 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|4v3fxupuZPA|'''Last piston fighters''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 1:42 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|LCVpwcd7H9s|'''{{PAGENAME}} - Strategy and Tactics - Guide - War Thunder''' - ''Green Fury''|nXeC3YM2Ds0|'''{{PAGENAME}} (FM Changes Revisit 1.79!)''' - ''Jengar''|yyB_--akcGI|'''TA IS LIFE - {{PAGENAME}}''' - ''Slick Plays''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.ru/index.php?/topic/96066-ta-152-h1/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance (Russian Forum)]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 C-3

2021-09-17T09:31:20Z

U70267797: Fixed grammatical issues and cleaned up battle usage section

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 H-1
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.57 "Battle March"]].

The Ta 152 C-3 should be considered the pinnacle of the Dora 190s, evolving their concept to an extreme; this plane was designed for mid altitude combat, with a re-designed short wing similar to that of the late 190 series, such as the [[Fw 190 D-13]]. With its Daimler-Benz DB 603 engine, gaining speed and altitude is the first priority in this aircraft. Second is heavy usage of Boom and Zoom tactics, especially on heavily armed strategic bombers like the [[B-29A-BN|B-29 Superfortress]]. With its armament of four MG-151 20 mm cannons (two in the wing roots, two in the cowling), and a MK-103 cannon firing through the propeller hub, trigger discipline is a must to take down as many aircraft as you can with the ammunition on board. However, it can be pushed to turn tight in a pinch with a rather small amount of energy lost by using the flaps, and despite not having a proper combat flap setting. The flaps are extremely strong and they deploy quickly, even at higher speeds (though it is not advisable to do this unless the situation is just right).

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,400 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 703 || 681 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.2 || 29.2 || 9.7 || 9.7 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 759 || 730 || 25.8 || 27.0 || 17.1 || 13.1
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 591 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 420 || < 240 || < 500 || > 290
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 8,990 m || 1,750 hp || 1,921 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


* 15 mm Steel - Engine cowl armour
* 5 mm Steel - Under cockpit/fuel tank armour
* 5 mm Steel - Rear fuel tank armour plate
* 8 mm Steel - Pilot seat armour
* 5 mm Steel - Pilot seat armour
* 20 mm Steel - Head rest armour
* 10 mm Steel - Upper cowling ammunition armour
* 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel armour
* 70 mm Bulletproof glass

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 103 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, nose-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

Currently the Ta 152 C-3 does not carry any under-wing ordnance, but it can perform rather lethal ground-pounding with its [[MK 103 (30 mm)]] cannon, if it is loaded with armoured target rounds (HVAP). Although, one must aim carefully and have good trigger discipline to knock out tanks, lest too many shells be wasted on a single vehicle. But for its intended role of air superiority, the combination of [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 151]] 20 mm cannons plus the aforementioned MK 103 is lethal against any aircraft in the game. However, the stock belts can be a bit of a pain to use, as half of the load are not the infamous German minengeschoße (HE-IT).

The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.

* Prioritize enemies with multiple engines first, like bombers, attackers and heavy fighters above anything else
* Only engage enemy fighters when they are distracted at something else or if you have the advantage or when there are no other targets in your vicinity
* Despite being heavily armoured, you are not invincible, head on engagements eventually will take the toll on your plane, so fight smart by firing first when you are around 1.2km away and immediately roll or bank to dodge their bullets
* Although it is tempting, engaging ground units should be the least of your priorities unless there are no other targets nearby
* HVAP shells can destroy AI light tanks in one hit from any direction, medium tanks will need to be shot from above or the rear and heavy tanks are just a waste of ammo
* 30mm Minengeschoß rounds deal a lot of damage, use it sparingly with the 20mm
* The 20mm and the 30mm have different ballistics, control mappings to each caliber is recommended
* When you have a determined enemy on your tail, there is little you can do except to wait for allies to come and help, do not let it happen;
* Use your incredible roll rate to escape from sticky situations

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 1 gear || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Powerful armament of five cannons with a lot of ammo.
* Nose mounted armament allows very tight spread of bullets when firing.
* Does not slow down that much when firing all its guns.
* Durable and well armoured, both pilot and engine are protected.
* Very effective bomber killer.
* Armour is enough to deflect machine gun rounds from bombers' gunners.
* Incredibly strong at head-on engagements and will often survive unharmed or with minor damage.
* Effective flaps offset the poor turn rate, landing flaps allow this plane to keep up with some fighters.
* Decent energy retention, although not as good as the H-1 model.
* Great roll rate, better than the H-1 model.
* Very good performance when operating from low to mid altitude.
* Incredible dive performance, better than the H-1 model due to stronger, shorter wings which only rip at 915 km/h (570 mph).
* Can perform a tank-buster role despite not having bombs or rockets due to the high velocity 30mm AP belt.
* Can immediately research the 20 mm and 30 mm belts.

'''Cons:'''

* Average rate of climb for an interceptor, but it will keep up with the H-1 model.
* Slow, coupled with average rate of climb makes it an easy target after conducting a boom and zoom attack.
* Worst turn rate of all Kurt Tank fighters in the game, even worse than the already bad Fw 190 series.
* Poor high altitude performance.
* Easy to counter and has few options of escape when chased.
* Wings and fuselage are littered with fuel tanks, although they are self sealing.
* Stock performance is awful.
* Feels heavier and more sluggish to fly than the H-1 model.
* Engine often overheats above 3,500 m.

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude manoeuvrability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal centre of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminium, steel spars were utilised aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ta-152c Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|d5k2T9FP0bQ|'''Avoid them in frontal attack!''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 1:39 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|4v3fxupuZPA|'''Last piston fighters''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 2:39 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|hN38Hj_F9sU|'''War Thunder Realistic: Ta 152 C-3 [Battlestar Galactica!]''' - ''Jengar''|iKTe9p-Awhw|'''Ta 152 C-3 - I Can't Let It Go Like That!''' - ''Napalmratte''|nxQfEs1DfAQ|'''Ta 152 C3 - 1 Vs 1 - Tactics and strategies''' - ''Green Fury''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/303488-focke-wulf-ta-152-c-3/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 C-3

2021-09-17T09:28:21Z

U70267797: Fixed wording in battle usage, it does not seem like the C-3 will ever carry ordnance

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 H-1
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.57 "Battle March"]].

The Ta 152 C-3 should be considered the pinnacle of the Dora 190s, evolving their concept to an extreme; this plane was designed for mid altitude combat, with a re-designed short wing similar to that of the late 190 series, such as the [[Fw 190 D-13]]. With its Daimler-Benz DB 603 engine, gaining speed and altitude is the first priority in this aircraft. Second is heavy usage of Boom and Zoom tactics, especially on heavily armed strategic bombers like the [[B-29A-BN|B-29 Superfortress]]. With its armament of four MG-151 20 mm cannons (two in the wing roots, two in the cowling), and a MK-103 cannon firing through the propeller hub, trigger discipline is a must to take down as many aircraft as you can with the ammunition on board. However, it can be pushed to turn tight in a pinch with a rather small amount of energy lost by using the flaps, and despite not having a proper combat flap setting. The flaps are extremely strong and they deploy quickly, even at higher speeds (though it is not advisable to do this unless the situation is just right).

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,400 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 703 || 681 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.2 || 29.2 || 9.7 || 9.7 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 759 || 730 || 25.8 || 27.0 || 17.1 || 13.1
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 591 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 420 || < 240 || < 500 || > 290
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 8,990 m || 1,750 hp || 1,921 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


* 15 mm Steel - Engine cowl armour
* 5 mm Steel - Under cockpit/fuel tank armour
* 5 mm Steel - Rear fuel tank armour plate
* 8 mm Steel - Pilot seat armour
* 5 mm Steel - Pilot seat armour
* 20 mm Steel - Head rest armour
* 10 mm Steel - Upper cowling ammunition armour
* 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel armour
* 70 mm Bulletproof glass

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 103 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, nose-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

The Ta 152 C-3 does not carry any under-wing ordnance, but it can perform rather lethal ground-pounding with its [[MK 103 (30 mm)]] cannon, if it is loaded with armoured target rounds (HVAP). Although, one must aim carefully and have good trigger discipline to knock out tanks, lest too many shells be wasted on a single vehicle. But for its intended role of air superiority, the combination of [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 151]] 20 mm cannons plus the aforementioned MK 103 is lethal against any aircraft in the game. However, the stock belts can be a bit of a pain to use, as half of the load are not the infamous German minengeschoße (HE-IT).

The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.

* Prioritize enemies with multiple engines first, like bombers, attackers and heavy fighters above anything else;
* Only engage enemy fighters when they are distracted at something else or if you have the advantage or when there are no other targets in your vicinity;
* Despite heavily armoured, you are not invincible, head on engagements eventually will take the toll on your plane, so fight smart by firing first when you are around 1.2km away and immediately roll or bank to dodge their bullets;
* Although it is tempting, engaging ground units should be the least of your priorities unless there are no other targets nearby;
* HVAP shells can destroy AI light tanks in one hit from any direction, medium tanks will need to be shot from above or the rear and heavy tanks are just a waste of ammo;
* 30mm Minengeschoß rounds deal a lot of damage, use it sparingly with the 20mm;
* The 20mm and the 30mm have different ballistics, control mappings to each caliber is recommended
* When you have a determined enemy on your tail, there is little you can do except to wait for allies to come and help, do not let it happen;
* Use your incredible roll rate to escape from sticky situations;

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 1 gear || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Powerful armament of five cannons with a lot of ammo.
* Nose mounted armament allows very tight spread of bullets when firing.
* Does not slow down that much when firing all its guns.
* Durable and well armoured, both pilot and engine are protected.
* Very effective bomber killer.
* Armour is enough to deflect machine gun rounds from bombers' gunners.
* Incredibly strong at head-on engagements and will often survive unharmed or with minor damage.
* Effective flaps offset the poor turn rate, landing flaps allow this plane to keep up with some fighters.
* Decent energy retention, although not as good as the H-1 model.
* Great roll rate, better than the H-1 model.
* Very good performance when operating from low to mid altitude.
* Incredible dive performance, better than the H-1 model due to stronger, shorter wings which only rip at 915 km/h (570 mph).
* Can perform a tank-buster role despite not having bombs or rockets due to the high velocity 30mm AP belt.
* Can immediately research the 20 mm and 30 mm belts.

'''Cons:'''

* Average rate of climb for an interceptor, but it will keep up with the H-1 model.
* Slow, coupled with average rate of climb makes it an easy target after conducting a boom and zoom attack.
* Worst turn rate of all Kurt Tank fighters in the game, even worse than the already bad Fw 190 series.
* Poor high altitude performance.
* Easy to counter and has few options of escape when chased.
* Wings and fuselage are littered with fuel tanks, although they are self sealing.
* Stock performance is awful.
* Feels heavier and more sluggish to fly than the H-1 model.
* Engine often overheats above 3,500 m.

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude manoeuvrability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal centre of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminium, steel spars were utilised aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ta-152c Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|d5k2T9FP0bQ|'''Avoid them in frontal attack!''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 1:39 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|4v3fxupuZPA|'''Last piston fighters''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 2:39 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|hN38Hj_F9sU|'''War Thunder Realistic: Ta 152 C-3 [Battlestar Galactica!]''' - ''Jengar''|iKTe9p-Awhw|'''Ta 152 C-3 - I Can't Let It Go Like That!''' - ''Napalmratte''|nxQfEs1DfAQ|'''Ta 152 C3 - 1 Vs 1 - Tactics and strategies''' - ''Green Fury''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/303488-focke-wulf-ta-152-c-3/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 C-3

2021-07-11T06:42:19Z

U70267797: Fixed grammar and wording

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 H-1
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.57 "Battle March"]].

The Ta 152 C-3 should be considered the pinnacle of the Dora 190s, evolving their concept to an extreme; this plane was designed for mid altitude combat, with a re-designed short wing similar to that of the late 190 series, such as the [[Fw 190 D-13]]. With its Daimler-Benz DB 603 engine, gaining speed and altitude is the first priority in this aircraft. Second is heavy usage of Boom and Zoom tactics, especially on heavily armed strategic bombers like the [[B-29A-BN|B-29 Superfortress]]. With its armament of four MG-151 20 mm cannons (two in the wing roots, two in the cowling), and a MK-103 cannon firing through the propeller hub, trigger discipline is a must to take down as many aircraft as you can with the ammunition on board. However, it can be pushed to turn tight in a pinch with a rather small amount of energy lost by using the flaps, and despite not having a proper combat flap setting. The flaps are extremely strong and they deploy quickly, even at higher speeds (though it is not advisable to do this unless the situation is just right).

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,400 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 703 || 681 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.2 || 29.2 || 9.7 || 9.7 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 759 || 730 || 25.8 || 27.0 || 17.1 || 13.1
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 591 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 420 || < 240 || < 500 || > 290
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 8,990 m || 1,750 hp || 1,921 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


* 15 mm Steel - Engine cowl armour
* 5 mm Steel - Under cockpit/fuel tank armour
* 5 mm Steel - Rear fuel tank armour plate
* 8 mm Steel - Pilot seat armour
* 5 mm Steel - Pilot seat armour
* 20 mm Steel - Head rest armour
* 10 mm Steel - Upper cowling ammunition armour
* 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel armour
* 70 mm Bulletproof glass

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 103 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, nose-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

Currently the Ta 152 C-3 does not carry any under-wing ordnance, but it can perform rather lethal ground-pounding with its [[MK 103 (30 mm)]] cannon, if it is loaded with armoured target rounds (HVAP). Although, one must aim carefully and have good trigger discipline to knock out tanks, lest too many shells be wasted on a single vehicle. But for its intended role of air superiority, the combination of [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 151]] 20 mm cannons plus the aforementioned MK 103 is lethal against any aircraft in the game. However, the stock belts can be a bit of a pain to use, as half of the load are not the infamous German minengeschoße (HE-IT).

The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.

* Prioritize enemies with multiple engines first, like bombers, attackers and heavy fighters above anything else;
* Only engage enemy fighters when they are distracted at something else or if you have the advantage or when there are no other targets in your vicinity;
* Despite heavily armoured, you are not invincible, head on engagements eventually will take the toll on your plane, so fight smart by firing first when you are around 1.2km away and immediately roll or bank to dodge their bullets;
* Although it is tempting, engaging ground units should be the least of your priorities unless there are no other targets nearby;
* HVAP shells can destroy AI light tanks in one hit from any direction, medium tanks will need to be shot from above or the rear and heavy tanks are just a waste of ammo;
* 30mm Minengeschoß rounds deal a lot of damage, use it sparingly with the 20mm;
* The 20mm and the 30mm have different ballistics, control mappings to each caliber is recommended
* When you have a determined enemy on your tail, there is little you can do except to wait for allies to come and help, do not let it happen;
* Use your incredible roll rate to escape from sticky situations;

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 1 gear || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Powerful armament of five cannons with a lot of ammo.
* Nose mounted armament allows very tight spread of bullets when firing.
* Does not slow down that much when firing all its guns.
* Durable and well armoured, both pilot and engine are protected.
* Very effective bomber killer.
* Armour is enough to deflect machine gun rounds from bombers' gunners.
* Incredibly strong at head-on engagements and will often survive unharmed or with minor damage.
* Effective flaps offset the poor turn rate, landing flaps allow this plane to keep up with some fighters.
* Decent energy retention, although not as good as the H-1 model.
* Great roll rate, better than the H-1 model.
* Very good performance when operating from low to mid altitude.
* Incredible dive performance, better than the H-1 model due to stronger, shorter wings which only rip at 915 km/h (570 mph).
* Can perform a tank-buster role despite not having bombs or rockets due to the high velocity 30mm AP belt.
* Can immediately research the 20 mm and 30 mm belts.

'''Cons:'''

* Average rate of climb for an interceptor, but it will keep up with the H-1 model.
* Slow, coupled with average rate of climb makes it an easy target after conducting a boom and zoom attack.
* Worst turn rate of all Kurt Tank fighters in the game, even worse than the already bad Fw 190 series.
* Poor high altitude performance (>9 km).
* Easy to counter and has few options of escape when chased.
* Wings and fuselage are littered with fuel tanks, although they are self sealing.
* Stock performance is awful.
* Feels heavier and more sluggish to fly than the H-1 model.
* Engine often overheats above 3,500 m.

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude manoeuvrability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal centre of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminium, steel spars were utilised aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=germany&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=fighter&vehicle=ta-152c Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|d5k2T9FP0bQ|'''Avoid them in frontal attack!''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 1:39 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|4v3fxupuZPA|'''Last piston fighters''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 2:39 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|hN38Hj_F9sU|'''War Thunder Realistic: Ta 152 C-3 [Battlestar Galactica!]''' - ''Jengar''|iKTe9p-Awhw|'''Ta 152 C-3 - I Can't Let It Go Like That!''' - ''Napalmratte''|nxQfEs1DfAQ|'''Ta 152 C3 - 1 Vs 1 - Tactics and strategies''' - ''Green Fury''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]
* Kurt Tank [[Ta 152 H-1]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Republic [[P-47 (Family)|P-47]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/303488-focke-wulf-ta-152-c-3/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 H-1

2021-07-11T06:36:08Z

U70267797: Fixed grammar and wording

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 C-3
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152h-1
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


While the Ta 152 H-1 is the ultimate evolution of the Fw 190, the [[Ta 152 C-3]] takes the 190s concepts to their limit. Don't be dissuaded however, the H-1 is a different beast altogether. Fast, manoeuvrable, and stable at >350 km/h, it is more nimble than most enemies at its BR, has a decent rate of climb, great turn time (especially with flaps), and above average roll rate. The Ta 152 H-1 trades the incredible roll rate of the Fw 190 line for great energy retention and turnfighting ability. You will outclimb most competitors and will usually have an altitude advantage due to the interceptor airspawn.

If you're going to play as an interceptor, just climb high and dive on bombers. Should you fly against fighters, do not neglect your combat flaps in dogfights.

[[File:Cockpit Ta152.jpg|x150px|right|thumb|none|Cockpit of the Ta 152]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,200 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 725 || 707 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.1 || 21.3 || 14.0 || 14.0 || rowspan="2" | 315
|-
! Upgraded
| 788 || 755 || 20.3 || 20.5 || 22.2 || 17.5
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 667 || 536 || 310 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 360 || < 220 || < 500 || > 320
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|2,000 m||1,740 hp||2,063 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|6,200 m||1,556 hp||1,842 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|9,100 m||1,299 hp||1,535 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 4
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|12,200 m||999 hp||1,376 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
[[File:Ta 152 H-1 armor schematic.png|thumb|404x404px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 H-1, corresponds to the list on the left]]
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


# 15 mm steel - engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm steel - oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm steel - angled pilot armour
# 6 mm steel - in front of the pilot
# 70 mm angled bulletproof glass - armoured windscreen
# 20 mm steel - pilot's headrest
# 8 mm steel + 5 mm steel - behind the pilot
# 5 mm steel - under the cockpit

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 108 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

The Ta-152 H-1 is a high altitude fighter with a wide wing span and good manoeuvrability. Unlike its heavier cousin the [[Ta 152 C-3]], the H-1's best performance is reached when flying in excess of 9 km (~30,000 ft) as this is where the engine performs at maximum efficiency. Ta 152 H-1's with altitude advantages are a deadly force to be reckoned with, having a great dive speed and energy retention, making it an efficient Hit and Run plane. With an interceptor airspawn, the average climb rate of 22 m/s (AB) and 17.5 m/s (RB) is somewhat nullified. However the pilot must be aware of planes with a climb rate in excess of 20 m/s (RB) such as Spitfires, or P-51s, as they can ''absolutely'' possess an altitude advantage at first contact, despite taking off from the ground.

Even though the Ta 152 H-1 is an high altitude fighter, it can still be a force to be reckoned with at medium and low altitudes. Being quite manoeuvrable it can do well in a dogfight if its forced into one against certain opponents, however against some opponents it will struggle with to dogfight against and is best for the Ta 152 H-1 to use its primary strengths. Its speed and manoeuvring energy retention (MER) combined with altitude advantages allow the plane to perform best against its foes. However, do note you are not out of options when close to the ground as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with flaps. Another strong role for the Ta 152 H-1 is that of intercepting of heavy bombers at high altitude. Even if the bomber is trying to escape, the Ta 152 H-1 will quickly catch up to them due to the power of its engine.

The armaments of the Ta-152 H-1 are fairly powerful: the minengeschoß firing [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] and 2 x [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have enough power to inflict heavy damage on most targets it will encounter. Though be aware that the 30 mm [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] only has 90 rounds at its disposal and is most efficient at close range. Meanwhile, the two [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have 175 rounds per gun for a total of 350 rounds together, and can be used with much more liberty than the 30 mm.

Enemies to be aware of in the Ta 152 H-1 are opponents such as the [[Spitfire F Mk 24]], [[F8F (Family)|F8F]], [[P-51H-5-NA]] and [[Ki-84 (Family)|Ki-84]]. These foes can intercept and force the Ta 152 H-1 into dogfights on equal terms, trying to gain an energy or altitude advantage is key before engagement with these aircraft.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 5 gears || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact, and serves well in bomber interception
* Stable in all axes (joystick), and fairly nimble in a turn (mouse aim)
* Good armour layout protects both the pilot and engine, strong in headons
* GM-1 engine boost gives outstanding performance above 7,000 m, at these altitudes a good pilot can go head to head with any foe
* Combat flaps rip off at 700 km/h, which means you can use them at almost any speed
* Above average turnfighter for Germany, landing flaps increase turn so much that you can keep up with most fighters; even some Spitfires
* Has some of the best manoeuvring energy retention (MER) performance in the game, it will easily win a prolonged dogfight with good usage of flaps
* Excellent diver, wings only rip past 870 km/h (540 mph)
* Decently fast on the deck, can reach 580 km/h (360 mph) and will catch most enemies in a straight chase
* Very fast at high altitude (>7 km), where the Ta 152 H-1 will reach 755 km/h (469 mph), making it the fastest single engine German prop fighter

'''Cons:'''

* 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit
* Has a tendency to snap roll viciously, especially in a stall
* Very strong brakes, will easily flip over if not used sparingly, and is thus slower to land than most aircraft
* Losing your flaps through gunfire or otherwise is a massive detriment to turning performance and hampers your ability to dogfight effectively
* Despite having an above average roll rate, it is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
* Average climb rate, even with the airspawn it can be difficult to attain an altitude advantage over foes such as the Spitfire
* Below average ammo capacity, good trigger discipline is a must with the Ta 152 H
* Long wings increase chance of collision with enemy aircraft, especially in headons
* Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks due to wing surface area
* No external payload options or HVAP shells on the MK 108, making this strictly an air superiority plane

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude maneuverability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal center of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminum, steel spars were utilized aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152H variant

The Ta 152H-1 was refined to be more of a high-altitude fighter even so over the Ta 152C. Wings were extended a full length of 14.4 m (47.4 ft), though this lowered its overall speed, it provided substantial improvement with high-altitude handling. To aid the pilots in the higher altitude flights, the H variant was outfitted with a pressurized cockpit. The cockpit was pressurized to approximately a level comparable with 8,000 m (26,250 ft) and the canopy was comprised of two layers of which the outer was a thicker material with a thinner inner pane. To compensate for any moisture which could form between the panes, silica gel was added to aid in stemming any fogging. Unlike the 'C' variant, the 'H' only utilized a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub along with just two MG 151/20 mm autocannons, both of which were mounted in the upper fuselage. Eliminating the two wing-mounted cannons aided in increased maneuverability and less weight to make up for some of the additional weight added due to the pressurized cockpit system.

Overall the Ta 152H variant was one of the fastest piston-engine fighters to emerge during World War II, cruising around 750 kph (465 mph) while at around 10,200 m (33,000 ft). The Ta 152H also employed the usage of GM-1 nitrous oxide boost and MW 50 methanol-water boost to briefly increase performance in the aircraft and if necessary, both could be applied at the same time.<ref name="Militaryfactory" />

=== In-game description ===
The Ta 152 was, without a doubt, the best aircraft designed by Kurt Tank for Focke-Wulf. The aircraft was a further redesign of the venerable Fw 190, namely of the Fw 190 D. The Ta 152 became possible thanks to the new high-altitude Jumo 213 and DB 603 engines.

Development began in the winter of 1942-1943, when RLM's technical department released specifications for a new 'Spezial Jaeger', or Special Fighter. The fighter was to be capable of a high-altitude interceptor role. The Ta 152 H-1 was armed with a MK 108 cannon with 85 rounds firing through the propeller hub and two MG 151/20 cannons (220 rounds per gun) in the wings. The H-1 went into serial production in January or February of 1945. A total of only 70 or so were produced, of which very few made it to front-line service.

== Media ==


;Skins

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;Videos
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== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]
* Kurt Tank [[Ta 152 C-3]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Republic [[P-47 (Family)|P-47]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.ru/index.php?/topic/96066-ta-152-h1/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance (Russian Forum)]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 H-1

2021-01-20T07:24:36Z

U70267797: /* Usage in battles */

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 C-3
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152h-1
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


While the Ta 152 H-1 is the ultimate evolution of the Fw 190, the [[Ta 152 C-3]] takes the 190s concepts to their limit. Don't be dissuaded however, the H-1 is a different beast altogether. Fast, manoeuvrable, and stable at >350 km/h, it is more nimble than most enemies at its BR, has a decent rate of climb, great turn time (especially with flaps), and above average roll rate. The Ta 152 H-1 trades the incredible roll rate of the Fw 190 line for great energy retention and turnfighting ability. You will outclimb most competitors and will usually have an altitude advantage due to the interceptor airspawn.

If you're going to play as an interceptor, just climb high and dive on bombers. Should you fly against fighters, do not neglect your combat flaps in dogfights.

[[File:Cockpit Ta152.jpg|x150px|right|thumb|none|Cockpit of the Ta 152]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,200 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 725 || 707 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.1 || 21.3 || 14.0 || 14.0 || rowspan="2" | 315
|-
! Upgraded
| 788 || 755 || 20.3 || 20.5 || 22.2 || 17.5
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 700 || 450 || 310 || ~10 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 380 || < 220 || < 550 || > 290
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|2,000 m||1,740 hp||2,063 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|6,200 m||1,556 hp||1,842 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|9,100 m||1,299 hp||1,535 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 4
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|12,200 m||999 hp||1,376 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
[[File:Ta 152 H-1 armor schematic.png|thumb|404x404px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 H-1, corresponds to the list on the left]]
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


# 15 mm steel - engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm steel - oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm steel - angled pilot armour
# 6 mm steel - in front of the pilot
# 70 mm angled bulletproof glass - armoured windscreen
# 20 mm steel - pilot's headrest
# 8 mm steel + 5 mm steel - behind the pilot
# 5 mm steel - under the cockpit

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 108 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

The Ta-152 H-1 is a high altitude fighter with a wide wing span and good manoeuvrability. Unlike its heavier cousin the [[Ta 152 C-3]], the H-1's best performance is reached when flying in excess of 9 km (~30,000 ft) as this is where the engine performs at maximum efficiency. Ta 152 H-1's with altitude advantages are a deadly force to be reckoned with, having a great dive speed and energy retention making it an efficient Hit and Run plane. With an interceptor airspawn, the average climb rate of 22 m/s (AB) and 17.5 m/s (RB) is somewhat nullified. However the pilot must be aware of planes with a climb rate in excess of 20 m/s (RB) such as Spitfires, or P-51s, as they can ''absolutely'' possess an altitude advantage at first contact, despite taking off from the ground.

Even though the Ta 152 H-1 is an high altitude fighter, it can still be a force to be reckoned with at medium and low altitudes. Being quite manoeuvrable it can do well in a dogfight if its forced into one against certain opponents, however against some opponents it will struggle with to dogfight against and is best for the Ta 152 H-1 to use its primary strengths. Its speed and manoeuvring energy retention (MER) combined with altitude advantages allow the plane to perform best against its foes. However do note you are not out of options when close to the ground as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with flaps. Another strong role for the Ta 152 H-1 is that of intercepting of heavy bombers at high altitude. Even if the bomber is trying to get escape the Ta 152 H-1 will quickly catch up to them due to the power of its engine.

The armaments of the Ta-152 H-1 are fairly powerful: the minengeschoß firing [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] and 2 x [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have enough power to inflict heavy damage on most targets it will encounter. Though be aware that the 30 mm [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] only has 90 rounds at its disposal and is most efficient at close range. Meanwhile the two [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have 175 rounds per gun for a total of 350 rounds together and can be used with much more liberty than the 30 mm.

Enemies to be aware of in the Ta 152 H-1 are opponents such as the [[Spitfire F Mk 24]], [[F8F (Family)|F8F]], [[P-51H-5-NA]] and [[Ki-84 (Family)|Ki-84]]. These foes can intercept and force the Ta 152 H-1 into dogfights on equal terms, trying to gain an energy or altitude advantage is key before engagement.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 5 gears || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact, and serves well in bomber interception
* Stable in all axes (joystick), and fairly nimble in a turn (mouse aim)
* Good armour layout protects both the pilot and engine, strong in headons
* GM-1 engine boost gives outstanding performance above 7,000 m, at these altitudes a good pilot can go head to head with any foe
* Combat flaps rip off at 700 km/h, which means you can use them at almost any speed
* Above average turnfighter for Germany, landing flaps increase turn so much that you can keep up with most fighters; even some Spitfires
* Has some of the best manoeuvring energy retention (MER) performance in the game, it will easily win a prolonged dogfight with good usage of flaps
* Excellent diver, wings only rip past 870 km/h (540 mph)
* Decently fast on the deck, can reach 580 km/h (360 mph) and will catch most enemies in a straight chase
* Very fast at high altitude (>7 km) where the Ta 152 H-1 will reach 755 km/h (469 mph), making it the fastest single engine German prop fighter

'''Cons:'''

* 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit
* Has a tendency to snap roll viciously, especially in a stall
* Very strong brakes, will easily flip over if not used sparingly, and is thus slower to land than most aircraft
* Losing your flaps through gunfire or otherwise is a massive detriment to turning performance and hampers your ability to dogfight effectively
* Despite having an above average roll rate, it is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
* Average climb rate, even with the airspawn it can be difficult to attain an altitude advantage over foes such as the Spitfire
* Below average ammo capacity, good trigger discipline is a must with the Ta 152 H
* Long wings increase chance of collision with enemy aircraft, especially in headons
* Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks due to wing surface area
* No payload options for the wings or HVAP shells on the MK 108, strictly an air superiority plane

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude maneuverability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal center of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminum, steel spars were utilized aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152H variant

The Ta 152H-1 was refined to be more of a high-altitude fighter even so over the Ta 152C. Wings were extended a full length of 14.4 m (47.4 ft), though this lowered its overall speed, it provided substantial improvement with high-altitude handling. To aid the pilots in the higher altitude flights, the H variant was outfitted with a pressurized cockpit. The cockpit was pressurized to approximately a level comparable with 8,000 m (26,250 ft) and the canopy was comprised of two layers of which the outer was a thicker material with a thinner inner pane. To compensate for any moisture which could form between the panes, silica gel was added to aid in stemming any fogging. Unlike the 'C' variant, the 'H' only utilized a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub along with just two MG 151/20 mm autocannons, both of which were mounted in the upper fuselage. Eliminating the two wing-mounted cannons aided in increased maneuverability and less weight to make up for some of the additional weight added due to the pressurized cockpit system.

Overall the Ta 152H variant was one of the fastest piston-engine fighters to emerge during World War II, cruising around 750 kph (465 mph) while at around 10,200 m (33,000 ft). The Ta 152H also employed the usage of GM-1 nitrous oxide boost and MW 50 methanol-water boost to briefly increase performance in the aircraft and if necessary, both could be applied at the same time.<ref name="Militaryfactory" />

=== In-game description ===
The Ta 152 was, without a doubt, the best aircraft designed by Kurt Tank for Focke-Wulf. The aircraft was a further redesign of the venerable Fw 190, namely of the Fw 190 D. The Ta 152 became possible thanks to the new high-altitude Jumo 213 and DB 603 engines.

Development began in the winter of 1942-1943, when RLM's technical department released specifications for a new 'Spezial Jaeger', or Special Fighter. The fighter was to be capable of a high-altitude interceptor role. The Ta 152 H-1 was armed with a MK 108 cannon with 85 rounds firing through the propeller hub and two MG 151/20 cannons (220 rounds per gun) in the wings. The H-1 went into serial production in January or February of 1945. A total of only 70 or so were produced, of which very few made it to front-line service.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=germany&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=fighter&vehicle=ta-152h-1 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|5oVIzdap51E|'''The Shooting Range #212''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 04:43 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.|t3xD7JpnHeI|'''Best aircraft for Boom & Zoom''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 3:52 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|4v3fxupuZPA|'''Last piston fighters''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 1:42 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|LCVpwcd7H9s|'''{{PAGENAME}} - Strategy and Tactics - Guide - War Thunder''' - ''Green Fury''|nXeC3YM2Ds0|'''{{PAGENAME}} (FM Changes Revisit 1.79!)''' - ''Jengar''|yyB_--akcGI|'''TA IS LIFE - {{PAGENAME}}''' - ''Slick Plays''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]
* Kurt Tank [[Ta 152 C-3]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Republic [[P-47 (Family)|P-47]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 H-1

2021-01-20T07:21:53Z

U70267797: /* Usage in battles */

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 C-3
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152h-1
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


While the Ta 152 H-1 is the ultimate evolution of the Fw 190, the [[Ta 152 C-3]] takes the 190s concepts to their limit. Don't be dissuaded however, the H-1 is a different beast altogether. Fast, manoeuvrable, and stable at >350 km/h, it is more nimble than most enemies at its BR, has a decent rate of climb, great turn time (especially with flaps), and above average roll rate. The Ta 152 H-1 trades the incredible roll rate of the Fw 190 line for great energy retention and turnfighting ability. You will outclimb most competitors and will usually have an altitude advantage due to the interceptor airspawn.

If you're going to play as an interceptor, just climb high and dive on bombers. Should you fly against fighters, do not neglect your combat flaps in dogfights.

[[File:Cockpit Ta152.jpg|x150px|right|thumb|none|Cockpit of the Ta 152]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,200 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 725 || 707 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.1 || 21.3 || 14.0 || 14.0 || rowspan="2" | 315
|-
! Upgraded
| 788 || 755 || 20.3 || 20.5 || 22.2 || 17.5
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 700 || 450 || 310 || ~10 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 380 || < 220 || < 550 || > 290
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|2,000 m||1,740 hp||2,063 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|6,200 m||1,556 hp||1,842 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|9,100 m||1,299 hp||1,535 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 4
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|12,200 m||999 hp||1,376 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
[[File:Ta 152 H-1 armor schematic.png|thumb|404x404px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 H-1, corresponds to the list on the left]]
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


# 15 mm steel - engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm steel - oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm steel - angled pilot armour
# 6 mm steel - in front of the pilot
# 70 mm angled bulletproof glass - armoured windscreen
# 20 mm steel - pilot's headrest
# 8 mm steel + 5 mm steel - behind the pilot
# 5 mm steel - under the cockpit

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 108 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

The Ta-152 H-1 is a high altitude fighter with a wide wing span and good manoeuvrability. Unlike its heavier cousin the [[Ta 152 C-3]], the H-1's best performance is reached when flying in excess of 9 km (~30,000 ft) as this is where the engine performs at maximum efficiency. Ta 152 H-1's with altitude advantages are a deadly force to be reckoned with, having a great dive speed and energy retention making it an efficient Hit and Run plane. With an interceptor airspawn, the average climb rate of 22 m/s (AB) and 17.5 m/s (RB) is somewhat nullified. However the pilot must be aware of planes with a climb rate in excess of 20 m/s (RB) such as Spitfires, or P-51s, as they can ''absolutely'' possess an altitude advantage at first contact, despite taking off from the ground.

Even though the Ta 152 H-1 is an high altitude fighter, it can still be a force to be reckoned with at medium and low altitudes. Being quite manoeuvrable it can do well in a dogfight if its forced into one against certain opponents, however against some opponents it will struggle with to dogfight against and is best for the Ta 152 H-1 to use its primary strengths. Its speed and manoeuvring energy retention (MER) combined with altitude advantages allow the plane to perform best against its foes. However do note you are not out of options when close to the ground as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with flaps. Another strong role for the Ta 152 H-1 is that of intercepting of heavy bombers at high altitude. Even if the bomber is trying to get away the Ta 152 H-1 will quickly catch up to them.

The armaments of the Ta-152 H-1 are fairly powerful: the minengeschoß firing [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] and 2 x [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have enough power to inflict heavy damage on most targets it will encounter. Though be aware that the 30 mm [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] only has 90 rounds at its disposal and is most efficient at close range. Meanwhile the two [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have 175 rounds per gun for a total of 350 rounds together and can be used with much more liberty than the 30 mm.

Enemies to be aware of in the Ta 152 H-1 are opponents such as the [[Spitfire F Mk 24]], [[F8F (Family)|F8F]], [[P-51H-5-NA]] and [[Ki-84 (Family)|Ki-84]]. These foes can intercept and force the Ta 152 H-1 into dogfights on equal terms, trying to gain an energy or altitude advantage is key before engagement.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 5 gears || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact, and serves well in bomber interception
* Stable in all axes (joystick), and fairly nimble in a turn (mouse aim)
* Good armour layout protects both the pilot and engine, strong in headons
* GM-1 engine boost gives outstanding performance above 7,000 m, at these altitudes a good pilot can go head to head with any foe
* Combat flaps rip off at 700 km/h, which means you can use them at almost any speed
* Above average turnfighter for Germany, landing flaps increase turn so much that you can keep up with most fighters; even some Spitfires
* Has some of the best manoeuvring energy retention (MER) performance in the game, it will easily win a prolonged dogfight with good usage of flaps
* Excellent diver, wings only rip past 870 km/h (540 mph)
* Decently fast on the deck, can reach 580 km/h (360 mph) and will catch most enemies in a straight chase
* Very fast at high altitude (>7 km) where the Ta 152 H-1 will reach 755 km/h (469 mph), making it the fastest single engine German prop fighter

'''Cons:'''

* 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit
* Has a tendency to snap roll viciously, especially in a stall
* Very strong brakes, will easily flip over if not used sparingly, and is thus slower to land than most aircraft
* Losing your flaps through gunfire or otherwise is a massive detriment to turning performance and hampers your ability to dogfight effectively
* Despite having an above average roll rate, it is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
* Average climb rate, even with the airspawn it can be difficult to attain an altitude advantage over foes such as the Spitfire
* Below average ammo capacity, good trigger discipline is a must with the Ta 152 H
* Long wings increase chance of collision with enemy aircraft, especially in headons
* Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks due to wing surface area
* No payload options for the wings or HVAP shells on the MK 108, strictly an air superiority plane

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude maneuverability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal center of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminum, steel spars were utilized aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152H variant

The Ta 152H-1 was refined to be more of a high-altitude fighter even so over the Ta 152C. Wings were extended a full length of 14.4 m (47.4 ft), though this lowered its overall speed, it provided substantial improvement with high-altitude handling. To aid the pilots in the higher altitude flights, the H variant was outfitted with a pressurized cockpit. The cockpit was pressurized to approximately a level comparable with 8,000 m (26,250 ft) and the canopy was comprised of two layers of which the outer was a thicker material with a thinner inner pane. To compensate for any moisture which could form between the panes, silica gel was added to aid in stemming any fogging. Unlike the 'C' variant, the 'H' only utilized a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub along with just two MG 151/20 mm autocannons, both of which were mounted in the upper fuselage. Eliminating the two wing-mounted cannons aided in increased maneuverability and less weight to make up for some of the additional weight added due to the pressurized cockpit system.

Overall the Ta 152H variant was one of the fastest piston-engine fighters to emerge during World War II, cruising around 750 kph (465 mph) while at around 10,200 m (33,000 ft). The Ta 152H also employed the usage of GM-1 nitrous oxide boost and MW 50 methanol-water boost to briefly increase performance in the aircraft and if necessary, both could be applied at the same time.<ref name="Militaryfactory" />

=== In-game description ===
The Ta 152 was, without a doubt, the best aircraft designed by Kurt Tank for Focke-Wulf. The aircraft was a further redesign of the venerable Fw 190, namely of the Fw 190 D. The Ta 152 became possible thanks to the new high-altitude Jumo 213 and DB 603 engines.

Development began in the winter of 1942-1943, when RLM's technical department released specifications for a new 'Spezial Jaeger', or Special Fighter. The fighter was to be capable of a high-altitude interceptor role. The Ta 152 H-1 was armed with a MK 108 cannon with 85 rounds firing through the propeller hub and two MG 151/20 cannons (220 rounds per gun) in the wings. The H-1 went into serial production in January or February of 1945. A total of only 70 or so were produced, of which very few made it to front-line service.

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== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]
* Kurt Tank [[Ta 152 C-3]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Republic [[P-47 (Family)|P-47]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 H-1

2021-01-07T14:35:19Z

U70267797: Balanced pros/cons list

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


While the Ta 152 H-1 is the ultimate evolution of the Fw 190, the [[Ta 152 C-3]] takes the 190s concepts to their limit. Don't be dissuaded however, the H-1 is a different beast altogether. Fast, manoeuvrable, and stable at >350 km/h, it is more nimble than most enemies at its BR, has a decent rate of climb, great turn time (especially with flaps), and above average roll rate. The Ta 152 H-1 trades the incredible roll rate of the Fw 190 line for great energy retention and turnfighting ability. You will outclimb most competitors and will usually have an altitude advantage due to the interceptor airspawn.

If you're going to play as an interceptor, just climb high and dive on bombers. Should you fly against fighters, do not neglect your combat flaps in dogfights.

[[File:Cockpit Ta152.jpg|x150px|right|thumb|none|Cockpit of the Ta 152]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,200 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 725 || 707 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.1 || 21.3 || 14.0 || 14.0 || rowspan="2" | 315
|-
! Upgraded
| 788 || 755 || 20.3 || 20.5 || 22.2 || 17.5
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 700 || 450 || 310 || ~10 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 380 || < 220 || < 550 || > 290
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|2,000 m||1,740 hp||2,063 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|6,200 m||1,556 hp||1,842 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|9,100 m||1,299 hp||1,535 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 4
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|12,200 m||999 hp||1,376 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
[[File:Ta 152 H-1 armor schematic.png|thumb|404x404px|Armour diagram of the Ta 152 H-1, corresponds to the list on the left]]
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


# 15 mm steel - engine cowling and radiator shield
# 8 mm steel - oil cooling system shield
# 10 mm steel - angled pilot armour
# 6 mm steel - in front of the pilot
# 70 mm angled bulletproof glass - armoured windscreen
# 20 mm steel - pilot's headrest
# 8 mm steel + 5 mm steel - behind the pilot
# 5 mm steel - under the cockpit

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 108 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

The Ta-152 H-1 is a high altitude fighter with a wide wing span and good manoeuvrability. Unlike its heavier cousin the [[Ta 152 C-3]], the H-1's best performance is reached when flying in excess of 9 km (~30,000 ft) as this is where the engine performs best. Ta 152 H-1 with altitude advantages are a deadly force to be reckoned with, having a great dive speed and energy retention making it an efficient Hit and Run plane. With an interceptor airspawn, the average climb rate of 22 m/s (AB) and 17.5 m/s (RB) is somewhat nullified. However the pilot must be aware of planes with a climb rate in excess of 20 m/s (RB) such as Spitfires, or P-51s, as they can ''absolutely'' possess an altitude advantage at first contact, despite taking off from the ground.

Even though the Ta 152 H-1 is an high altitude fighter, it can still be a force to be reckoned with at medium and low altitudes. Being quite manoeuvrable it can do well in a dogfight if its forced into one against certain opponents, however against some opponents it will struggle with to dogfight against and is best for the Ta 152 H-1 to use its primary strengths. Its speed and manoeuvring energy retention (MER) combined with altitude advantages allow the plane to perform best against its foes. However do note you are not out of options when close to the ground as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with flaps. Another strong role for the Ta 152 H-1 is that of intercepting of heavy bombers at high altitude. Even if the bomber is trying to get away the Ta 152 H-1 will quickly catch up to them.

The armaments of the Ta-152 H-1 are fairly powerful: the minengeschoß firing [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] and 2 x [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have enough power to inflict heavy damage on most targets it will encounter. Though be aware that the 30 mm [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] only has 90 rounds at its disposal and is most efficient at close range. Meanwhile the two [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151s]] have 175 rounds per gun for a total of 350 rounds together and can be used with much more liberty than the 30 mm.

Enemies to be aware of in the Ta 152 H-1 are opponents such as the [[Spitfire F Mk 24]], [[F8F (Family)|F8F]], [[P-51H-5-NA]] and [[Ki-84 (Family)|Ki-84]]. These foes can intercept and force the Ta 152 H-1 into dogfights on equal terms, trying to gain an energy or altitude advantage is key before engagement.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 5 gears || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact, and serves well in bomber interception
* Stable in all axis (joystick), and unstable when going ~400 km/h and in a turn, is fairly nimble (mouse aim)
* Good armour layout protects both the pilot and engine, strong in headons
* GM-1 engine boost gives outstanding performance above 7,000 m, at these altitudes a good pilot can go head to head with any foe
* Combat flaps rip off at 700 km/h, which means you can use them at almost any speed
* Above average turnfighter for Germany, landing flaps increase turn so much that you can keep up with most fighters; even some Spitfires
* Has some of the best manoeuvring energy retention (MER) performance in the game, it will easily win a prolonged dogfight with good usage of flaps
* Excellent diver, wings only rip past 870 km/h (540 mph)
* Decently fast on the deck, can reach 580 km/h (360 mph) and will catch most enemies in a straight chase
* Very fast at high altitude (>7 km) where the Ta 152 H-1 will reach 755 km/h (469 mph), making it the fastest single engine German prop fighter

'''Cons:'''

* 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit
* Has a tendency to snap roll viciously, especially in a stall
* Very strong brakes, will easily flip over if not used sparingly, and is thus slower to land than most aircraft
* Losing your flaps through gunfire or otherwise is a massive detriment to turning performance and hampers your ability to dogfight effectively
* Despite having an above average roll rate, it is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
* Average climb rate, even with the airspawn it can be difficult to attain an altitude advantage over foes such as the Spitfire
* Below average ammo capacity, good trigger discipline is a must with the Ta 152 H
* Long wings increase chance of collision with enemy aircraft, especially in headons
* Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks due to wing surface area
* No payload options for the wings or HVAP shells on the MK 108, strictly an air superiority plane

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude maneuverability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal center of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminum, steel spars were utilized aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152H variant

The Ta 152H-1 was refined to be more of a high-altitude fighter even so over the Ta 152C. Wings were extended a full length of 14.4 m (47.4 ft), though this lowered its overall speed, it provided substantial improvement with high-altitude handling. To aid the pilots in the higher altitude flights, the H variant was outfitted with a pressurized cockpit. The cockpit was pressurized to approximately a level comparable with 8,000 m (26,250 ft) and the canopy was comprised of two layers of which the outer was a thicker material with a thinner inner pane. To compensate for any moisture which could form between the panes, silica gel was added to aid in stemming any fogging. Unlike the 'C' variant, the 'H' only utilized a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub along with just two MG 151/20 mm autocannons, both of which were mounted in the upper fuselage. Eliminating the two wing-mounted cannons aided in increased maneuverability and less weight to make up for some of the additional weight added due to the pressurized cockpit system.

Overall the Ta 152H variant was one of the fastest piston-engine fighters to emerge during World War II, cruising around 750 kph (465 mph) while at around 10,200 m (33,000 ft). The Ta 152H also employed the usage of GM-1 nitrous oxide boost and MW 50 methanol-water boost to briefly increase performance in the aircraft and if necessary, both could be applied at the same time.<ref name="Militaryfactory" />

=== In-game description ===
The Ta 152 was, without a doubt, the best aircraft designed by Kurt Tank for Focke-Wulf. The aircraft was a further redesign of the venerable Fw 190, namely of the Fw 190 D. The Ta 152 became possible thanks to the new high-altitude Jumo 213 and DB 603 engines.

Development began in the winter of 1942-1943, when RLM's technical department released specifications for a new 'Spezial Jaeger', or Special Fighter. The fighter was to be capable of a high-altitude interceptor role. The Ta 152 H-1 was armed with a MK 108 cannon with 85 rounds firing through the propeller hub and two MG 151/20 cannons (220 rounds per gun) in the wings. The H-1 went into serial production in January or February of 1945. A total of only 70 or so were produced, of which very few made it to front-line service.

== Media ==


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== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]
* Kurt Tank [[Ta 152 C-3]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Republic [[P-47 (Family)|P-47]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 C-3

2021-01-07T09:23:02Z

U70267797: Description edits as well as performance clarifications

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 H-1
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.57 "Battle March"]].

The Ta 152 C-3 should be considered the pinnacle of the Dora 190s, evolving their concept to an extreme; this plane was designed for mid altitude combat, with a re-designed short wing similar to that of the late 190 series, such as the [[Fw 190 D-13]]. With its Daimler-Benz DB 603 engine, gaining speed and altitude is the first priority in this aircraft. Second, is heavy usage of Boom and Zoom tactics, especially on heavily armed strategic bombers like the [[B-29A-BN|B-29 Superfortress]]. With its armament of four MG-151 20 mm cannons (two in the wing roots, two in the cowling), and a MK-103 cannon firing through the propeller hub, trigger discipline is a must to take down as many aircraft as you can with the ammunition on board. However, it can be pushed to turn tight in a pinch with a rather small amount of energy lost by using the flaps, and despite not having a proper combat flap setting. The flaps are extremely strong and they deploy quickly, even at higher speeds (though it is not advisable to do such thing unless the situation is just right).

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,400 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 703 || 681 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.2 || 29.2 || 9.7 || 9.7 || rowspan="2" | 500
|-
! Upgraded
| 759 || 730 || 25.8 || 27.0 || 17.1 || 13.1
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 700 || 450 || 310 || ~10 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 420 || < 240 || < 500 || > 290
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 8,990 m || 1,750 hp || 1,921 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armor ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


* 15 mm Steel - Engine cowl armor
* 5 mm Steel - Under cockpit/fuel tank armor
* 5 mm Steel - Rear fuel tank armor plate
* 8 mm Steel - Pilot seat armor
* 5 mm Steel - Pilot seat armor
* 20 mm Steel - Head rest armor
* 10 mm Steel - Upper cowling ammunition armor
* 6 mm Steel - Instrument panel armor
* 70 mm Bulletproof glass

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 103 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, nose-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

Currently the Ta 152 C-3 does not carry any under-wing ordnance, but it can perform rather lethal ground-pounding with its [[MK 103 (30 mm)]] cannon, if it is loaded with armored target rounds (HVAP), although one must aim carefully and have good trigger discipline to knock out tanks, or else one wastes too many shells on a single vehicle. But for its intended role, the combination of [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 151]] 20 mm cannons plus the aforementioned MK 103 is lethal against any aircraft in the game. However, the stock belts can be a bit of a pain to use, as half of the load are not the infamous German minengeschoße (HE-IT).

The Ta 152 C-3 is somewhat of a combination of the Fw 190 D series and the Ta 152 H-1, it is easy to play, but difficult to master and is easily countered by the enemy, but that will not stop you from doing well with this aircraft as long as you fight engagements on your terms.

* Prioritize enemies with multiple engines first, like bombers, attackers and heavy fighters above anything else;
* Only engage enemy fighters when they are distracted at something else or if you have the advantage or when there are no other targets in your vicinity;
* Despite heavily armored, you are not invincible, head on engagements eventually will take the toll on your plane, so fight smart by firing first when you are around 1.2km away and immediately roll or bank to dodge their bullets;
* Although it is tempting, engaging ground units should be the least of your priorities unless there are no other targets nearby;
* HVAP shells can destroy AI light tanks in one hit from any direction, medium tanks will need to be shot from above or the rear and heavy tanks are just a waste of ammo;
* 30mm Minengeschoß rounds deal a lot of damage, use it sparingly with the 20mm;
* The 20mm and the 30mm have different ballistics, control mappings to each caliber is recommended;
* When you have an enemy on your tail, there is little you can do except to wait for allies to come and help, do not let it happen;
* Use your incredible roll rate to escape from sticky situations;

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 1 gear || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Powerful armament of five cannons with a lot of ammo.
* Nose mounted armament allows very tight spread of bullets when firing.
* Does not slow down that much when firing all its guns.
* Durable and well armored, both pilot and engine are protected.
* Very effective bomber killer.
* Armor is enough to deflect machine gun rounds from bombers' gunners.
* Incredibly strong at headon engagement and will often survive unharmed or with minor damage.
* Effective flaps offset the poor turn rate, landing flaps allow this plane to keep up with some fighters.
* Decent energy retention, although not as good as the H-1 model.
* Great roll rate, better than the H-1 model.
* Very good performance when operating from low to mid altitude.
* Incredible dive performance, better than the H-1 model due to stronger, shorter wings which only rip at 915 km/h (570 mph).
* Can perform a tank-buster role despite not having bombs or rockets due to the high velocity 30mm AP belt.
* Can immediately research the 20 mm and 30 mm belts.

'''Cons:'''

* Average rate of climb for an interceptor, but it will keep up with the H-1 model
* Slow, coupled with average rate of climb makes it an easy target after conducting a boom and zoom attack.
* Worst turn rate of all Kurt Tank fighters in the game, even worse than the already bad Fw 190 series.
* Extremely high repair cost of 40k silver lions in RB.
* Poor high altitude performance.
* Easy to counter and has few options of escape when chased.
* Wings and fuselage are littered with fuel tanks, although they are self sealing.
* Stock performance is awful.
* Feels heavier and more sluggish to fly than the H-1 model.
* Engine often overheats after 3500 m.

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude manoeuvrability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal centre of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminium, steel spars were utilised aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=germany&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=fighter&vehicle=ta-152c Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
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== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]
* Kurt Tank [[Ta 152 H-1]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Republic [[P-47 (Family)|P-47]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
</references>

{{AirManufacturer Focke-Wulf}}
{{Germany fighters}}

Ta 152 H-1

2021-01-07T08:59:20Z

U70267797: Rewriting and clarification, inclusion of diagrams and helpful information

{{About
| about = German fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = the other version
| link = Ta 152 C-3
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ta-152h-1
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


While the Ta 152 H-1 is the ultimate evolution of the Fw 190, the [[Ta 152 C-3]] takes the 190s concepts to their limit. Don't be dissuaded however, the H-1 is a different beast altogether. Fast, maneuverable, and stable at >350 km/h, it is more nimble than most enemies at its BR, has a decent rate of climb, great turn time (especially with flaps), and above average roll rate. The Ta 152 H-1 trades the incredible roll rate of the Fw 190 line for great energy retention and turnfighting ability. You will outclimb most competitors and will usually have an altitude advantage due to the interceptor airspawn.

If you're going to play as an interceptor, just climb high and dive on bombers. Should you fly against fighters, do not neglect your combat flaps in dogfights.

[[File:Cockpit Ta152.jpg|x150px|right|thumb|none|Cockpit of the Ta 152]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 10,200 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 725 || 707 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.1 || 21.3 || 14.0 || 14.0 || rowspan="2" | 315
|-
! Upgraded
| 788 || 755 || 20.3 || 20.5 || 22.2 || 17.5
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 700 || 450 || 310 || ~10 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 380 || < 220 || < 550 || > 290
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|2,000 m||1,740 hp||2,063 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|6,200 m||1,556 hp||1,842 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|9,100 m||1,299 hp||1,535 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 4
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
|12,200 m||999 hp||1,376 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armor ===
[[File:Ta 152 H-1 armor schematic.png|thumb|404x404px|Armor diagram of the Ta 152 H-1, corresponds to the list on the left]]
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


* 1.) 15 mm steel - engine cowling and radiator shield
* 2.) 8 mm steel - oil cooling system shield
* 3.) 10 mm steel - angled pilot armor
* 4.) 6 mm steel - in front of the pilot
* 5.) 70 mm angled bulletproof glass - armored windscreen
* 6.) 20 mm steel - pilot's headrest
* 7.) 5 mm steel + 8 mm steel - behind the pilot
* 8.) 5 mm steel - under the cockpit

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|MK 108 (30 mm)|MG 151 (20 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
* 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

== Usage in battles ==

The Ta-152 H-1 is a high altitude fighter with a wide wing span and good maneuverability. Unlike its heavier cousin the [[Ta 152 C-3]], the H-1's best performance is reached when flying in excess of 9 km (~30,000 ft) as this is where the engine performs best. Ta 152 H-1 with altitude advantages are a deadly force to be reckoned with, having a great dive speed and energy retention making it an efficient Hit and Run plane. With an interceptor airspawn, the average climb rate of 22 m/s (AB) and 17.5 m/s (RB) is somewhat nullified. However the pilot must be aware of planes with a climb rate in excess of 20 m/s (RB) such as Spitfires, or P-51s, as they can ''absolutely'' possess an altitude advantage at first contact, despite taking off from the ground.

Even though the Ta 152 H-1 is an high altitude fighter, it can still be a force to be reckoned with at medium and low altitudes. Being quite maneuverable it can do well in a dogfight if its forced into one against certain opponents, however against some opponents it will struggle with to dogfight against and is best for the Ta 152 H-1 to use its primary strengths. Its speed and maneuvering energy retention (MER) combined with altitude advantages allow the plane to perform best against its foes. However do note you are not out of options when close to the ground as you can quickly turn the tide of a dogfight due to your MER and good turn rate with flaps. Another strong role for the Ta 152 H-1 is that of intercepting of heavy bombers at high altitude. Even if the bomber is trying to get away the Ta 152 H-1 will quickly catch up to them.

The armaments of the Ta-152 H-1 are fairly powerful: the minengeschoß firing [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] and 2 x [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 151/20]]<nowiki/>s have enough power to inflict heavy damage on most targets it will encounter. Though be aware that the 30 mm [[MK 108 (30 mm)|MK 108]] only has 90 rounds at its disposal and is most efficient at close range. Meanwhile the two [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 151/20]]<nowiki/>s have 175 rounds per gun for a total of 350 rounds together and can be used with much more liberty than the 30 mm.

Enemies to be aware of in the Ta 152 H-1 are opponents such as the [[Spitfire F Mk 24]], [[F8F (Family)|F8F]], [[P-51H-5-NA]] and [[Ki-84 (Family)|Ki-84]]. These foes can intercept and force the Ta 152 H-1 into dogfights on equal terms, trying to gain an energy or altitude advantage is key before engagement.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable 5 gears || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact, and serves well in bomber interception
* Stable in all axis (joystick)
* Unstable when ~400 km/h and turn, fairly nimble (mouse aim)
* Good armor layout protects both the pilot and engine, strong in headons
* GM-1 engine boost gives outstanding performance above 7,000 m, at these altitudes a good pilot can go head to head with any foe
* Combat flaps rip off at 700 km/h, which means you can use them at almost any speed
* Above average turnfighter for Germany, landing flaps increase turn so much that you can keep up with most fighters; even some Spitfires
* Has some of the best maneuvering energy retention (MER) performance in the game, it will easily win a prolonged dogfight with good usage of flaps
* Excellent diver, wings only rip past 840 km/h
* Decently fast on the deck, can reach 580 km/h (360 mph) and will catch most enemies in a straight chase
* Very fast at high altitude (>7km) where the Ta 152 H-1 will reach 755 km/h (469 mph), making it the fastest single engine German prop fighter

'''Cons:'''

* 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit
* Has a tendency to snap roll viciously
* Despite having an above average roll rate, it is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
* Average climb rate, even with the airspawn it can be difficult to attain an altitude advantage over foes such as the Spitfire
* Below average ammo capacity, good trigger discipline is a must with the Ta 152 H
* Long wings increase chance of collision with enemy aircraft, especially in headons
* Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks
* No payload options, strictly an air superiority plane
* Very high repair cost for Realistic battles

== History ==


Throughout much of World War II in Europe, the German Luftwaffe was only concerned with their aircraft flying in the mid to low altitudes (20,000 ft/6,100 m and below), therefore a majority of their fighter fleet only utilized a single-stage supercharger which was sufficient for their role. However, with the introduction of the [[B-29A-BN|B-29]], the threat of this type of bomber would have been out of reach for most of the German air fleet.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> To counter high-altitude allied fighters and bombers, the Fw 190D-9 was modified with a two-stage supercharged Junkers Jumo 213E engine which allowed it to achieve the higher altitudes, however, the shorter stubby wings well know for low altitude maneuverability actually hindered performance at altitude, though usable, not really a suitable fix.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

Answering the call of the German Air Ministry (RLM – Reichsluftfahrtministerium), Focke-Wulf modified their Fw 190 design and branched out in three directions. The three prototypes, in turn, had one to become the new existing Fw 190D (Ta 152A) series (after the D-9), the second prototype would become a dedicated high-altitude bomber (Ta 152B) while the third would become a ground-attack aircraft (Ta 152H).<ref name="Historyofwar" /> Though adjustments and modifications were made including usage of a different engine, the ultimate results determined these aircraft did not provide enough improvement to continue moving forward and both the Ta 152A and B projects were cancelled. One bright spot from this was that the airframe built for the Ta 152B (the V21 airframe) showed promise and efforts were focused here to create the Ta 152C prototype.

In 1944 the RLM made a ruling that new fighter aircraft were to include the chief designer's name in the aircraft's designation. What was earlier knows as a Focke-Wulf aircraft was now listed with the prefix Ta which was short for ''Kurt Tank'', though Tank was still working for Focke-Wulf at the time.

Adjustments to the Fw 190D-9 fuselage resulted in its extension and addition of hydraulics to control the flaps and landing gear. These adjustments threw off the normal center of gravity and made the aircraft off balance, resulting in the lengthening of the nose of the aircraft to normalize the CoG. The length of the wings was slightly lengthened and due to shortages in aluminum, steel spars were utilized aiding to the strength of the wings, but also at a price of extra weight.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152C variant

The Ta 152C-3 ended up with wings .5 m (1.25 ft) longer than the standard Fw 190D-9 to aid in supporting the new steel spars and hydraulic hardware in the landing gear and flaps. The 'C' variant did not incorporate a pressurized cockpit. While designed to work at lower altitudes (though above 25,000 ft or 6,100 m), the fighter was outfitted with a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone which was mounted through the center propeller hub with four MG 151/20 mm cannons, two of which were mounted in the upper fuselage and two more with one in each wing.<ref name="Militaryfactory" /> This cannon setup is enough to devastate any aircraft which is on the receiving end of the 20 and 30 mm rounds. The Ta 152C-3 entered the war too late and in too little numbers to make an effective difference. Shortages in replacement parts became extremely difficult if not impossible to find reducing the ability of the Ta 152C-3 to be used to the fullest of its abilities.<ref name="Historyofwar" />

;Ta 152H variant

The Ta 152H-1 was refined to be more of a high-altitude fighter even so over the Ta 152C. Wings were extended a full length of 14.4 m (47.4 ft), though this lowered its overall speed, it provided substantial improvement with high-altitude handling. To aid the pilots in the higher altitude flights, the H variant was outfitted with a pressurized cockpit. The cockpit was pressurized to approximately a level comparable with 8,000 m (26,250 ft) and the canopy was comprised of two layers of which the outer was a thicker material with a thinner inner pane. To compensate for any moisture which could form between the panes, silica gel was added to aid in stemming any fogging. Unlike the 'C' variant, the 'H' only utilized a single 30 mm MK 108 Motorkanone firing through the propeller hub along with just two MG 151/20 mm autocannons, both of which were mounted in the upper fuselage. Eliminating the two wing-mounted cannons aided in increased maneuverability and less weight to make up for some of the additional weight added due to the pressurized cockpit system.

Overall the Ta 152H variant was one of the fastest piston-engine fighters to emerge during World War II, cruising around 750 kph (465 mph) while at around 10,200 m (33,000 ft). The Ta 152H also employed the usage of GM-1 nitrous oxide boost and MW 50 methanol-water boost to briefly increase performance in the aircraft and if necessary, both could be applied at the same time.<ref name="Militaryfactory" />

=== In-game description ===
The Ta 152 was, without a doubt, the best aircraft designed by Kurt Tank for Focke-Wulf. The aircraft was a further redesign of the venerable Fw 190, namely of the Fw 190 D. The Ta 152 became possible thanks to the new high-altitude Jumo 213 and DB 603 engines.

Development began in the winter of 1942-1943, when RLM's technical department released specifications for a new 'Spezial Jaeger', or Special Fighter. The fighter was to be capable of a high-altitude interceptor role. The Ta 152 H-1 was armed with a MK 108 cannon with 85 rounds firing through the propeller hub and two MG 151/20 cannons (220 rounds per gun) in the wings. The H-1 went into serial production in January or February of 1945. A total of only 70 or so were produced, of which very few made it to front-line service.

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== See also ==


;Related development

* Focke-Wulf [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]]
* Kurt Tank [[Ta 152 C-3]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Lavochkin [[La-9]]
* Nakajima [[Ki-87]]
* Martin-Baker [[MB.5]]
* North American [[P-51 (Family)|P-51]]
* Republic [[P-47 (Family)|P-47]]
* Macchi [[C.205N2|C.205]]

== External links ==


* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Ta_152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152]
* [https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/focke-wulf-ta-152-h-0r11 [Smithsonian<nowiki>]</nowiki> Focke-Wulf Ta 152 H-0/R11]

=== References ===

<references>
<ref name="Historyofwar">Focke-Wulf Ta 152C. (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_focke-wulf_Ta_152C.html.</ref>
<ref name="Militaryfactory">Jack, C. (2019, January 21). Focke-Wulf Ta 152 Single-Seat, Single-Engine High-Altitude Fighter-Interceptor Aircraft - Nazi Germany. Retrieved from https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=455.</ref>
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Lanovski's P-47M-1-RE

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U70267797: /* Witold Łanowski */

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== Description ==

'''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} American fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.83 "Masters of the Sea"]] but has only been made available for purchase in-game ({{GE}}) for specific mini-events like the [[wt:en/news/5872-special-a-centenary-of-poland-regaining-independence-en|2018 "Centenary of Poland Regaining Independence"]] event or the [[wt:en/news/6938-event-102-year-anniversary-of-poland-regaining-independence-en|2020 "102 Year Anniversary of Poland Regaining Independence"]] event. The plane is painted after the camouflage scheme of Polish pilot Witold Łanowski in the US Army Air Force in the 61st Fighter Squadron.

The P-47M is a high-altitude interceptor that has impressive armament and ordinance that serves it well in both the fighter and Close Air Support role. In Air RB, it is currently unequalled in performance at a 5.7 battle rating, possessing ridiculous top speed, competitive climb rate, decent energy retention, great armament, and surprising manoeuvrability at speed.

As such, the P-47M is best played to its strengths as a Boom & Zoom and Boom & Run fighter in Air realistic battles. In the Ground realistic battles it is an excellent fighter bomber with a good rocket/bomb load-out and .50 cals which can deal with most turret roof armour.

The M variant was specifically set up to intercept Germany's buzz-bombs and the new [[Me 262 A-1a|jet]]/[[Me 163 B|rocket]] powered fighters. The primary advantage of this new variant came through speed. The aircraft was powered by either a Pratt & Whitney R-2800-14W or R-2800-5 engine while using the CH-5 turbo-supercharger. The aircraft was able to produce 2,800 hp, giving it a higher top speed.

In War Thunder Air realistic battles, the P-47M sits at a battle rating of {{specs|BR|RB}} while having the performance qualities of super-props. Top speeds above 5km exceed literally any opponent besides the [[Ta 152 H-1]] (which is only capable of competing at around 9-10 km). Climb rate is great, at around an average of 23 m/s from 0-6000 m. WEP power is available for up to 12 minutes to maximize engine output.

Interestingly (besides the better engine), the P-47M gets a unique airbrake which makes it very easy to stick behind the tails of opponents in a high-speed dive.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 9,144 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
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! Stock
| 726 || 711 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 25.3 || 26.1 || 10.8 || 10.8 || rowspan="2" | 500
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! Upgraded
| 794 || 760 || 22.8 || 24.0 || 23.3 || 15.9
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==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
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| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X 
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|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
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! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 520 || 520 || 320 || ~12 || ~5
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|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
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| < 402 || < 420 || < 470 || > 335
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
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! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
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| 9,800 m || 2,100 hp || 2,793 hp
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=== Survivability and armour ===
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* 9.5 mm Steel - Seat back and headrest armour plate
* 38 mm Bulletproof glass - Windscreen

=== Modifications and economy ===
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== Armaments ==
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=== Offensive armament ===
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'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 8 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (425 rpg = 3,400 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
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{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|HVAR}}

'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (500 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 10 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs + 1 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb (2,500 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==


First of all, P-47 should '''always''' fly fast. No matter the altitude, it is recommended to fly at speeds higher than 520 kph (~320 mph). One of the few things P-47 is terrible at doing is dogfighting. Imagine a truck loaded with cement with wings strapped to the side. Congratulations, you just pictured a P-47 flying at low speeds. Now, with this out of the way you must remember one thing and one thing only, when and where possible, fly high, the higher the better. The higher in altitude the P-47 goes the better the engine performs compared to its potential adversaries. The best altitude for P-47M is around 9,000 meters (~30,000 ft), but it still can perform very good at lower altitudes ranging from 6,000 meters (~20,000 ft) to 8,000 meters (~26,000 ft). One drawback of the P-47M's engine is that it can easily overheat when using WEP for extended periods of time, however, most of the time just disabling WEP for few seconds will be enough to cool down the powerful Pratt & Whitney powerplant hidden under the hood.

====== '''Modes''' ======
'''Arcade:''' In AB much of what was mentioned above can be disregarded due to the adjusted flight model of arcade battles, instead just put your throttle to WEP, climb above your enemies and Boom & Zoom them. It is important to realize that while the P-47 can be the king of the hill, there are a few others which will buck for the spot too including Spitfires, Fw 190s and Bf 109s as they can climb as good as you and they often have cannons which in no time can dismantle a P-47 quickly in flight.

'''Air Realistic:''' In RB P-47M's pilot should '''not''' take any additional armaments such as bombs and rockets, they will only slow down the plane and make it an easy prey for Bf 109 K-4s, Ta 152s and Fw 190s. As soon as you take off from the airfield divert 30 degrees to left or right (depends on where the middle of the map is, just don't climb towards the middle), engage WEP and climb at ~17-18 degrees. The best speed for climbing is around ~267 kph (~165 mph). When you reach an altitude of about 5,500 meters (18,000 ft) start to gradually turn towards the middle of the map. Watch out for any enemy planes coming towards you, especially the Ta 152s and Bf 109 K-4s which are the biggest threats as they have similar performance output compared to the P-47M. At ~6,000 meters you will notice that climbing at 18 degrees makes your plane go slower and is necessary to adjust the angle of attack to 10-15 degrees. It is also a plausible option to stop climbing at this point since you will probably be above everyone. Next, it is recommended to fly level and gain some speed, but not more than 400 kph (~250 mph). In this situation, the P-47 will reign supreme over the skies, look around you, see if there are any enemy planes spotted and pick off the easiest targets, preferably slow-flying fighters which are flying straight. If you cannot see such targets go for other fighters, 109s and G.55s are your priority targets, as they can easily kill you if you are not careful.

Always perform powered dive and if you feel you're going too fast just extend the airbrakes long enough to reign in the aircraft's speed which is one of the biggest advantages of P-47M over the D-series and other comparable non-allied prop fighters. When you are over with the ''Boom'' portion of the flying do not climb outright, instead, speed away from the enemies (preferably towards your teammates) increasing distance between you and anyone tailing. When you gain ~3 km (~2 miles) of separation from enemy planes you can do the ''Zoom'' part of the tactic or keep running if you're feeling that the enemy planes could catch up to you. Climb at 10 degrees and gain enough altitude to ensure that you have an energy advantage above enemy planes. In most dire situations you can try to go for head-on (only if you have at least 2.5 km separation from the enemy) attack, but it's not recommended to do that as you will most likely damage your engine in the process. In the worst-case scenario, the fighter will catch fire and burn up. If you see an enemy fighter which is attempting to dive at you, try to force them to overshoot, call for help and fly towards your closest teammate. You can shrug off few hits to the fuselage but anything that touches your wings and elevators will most likely disable or destroy the aircraft's ability to fly well or at all. Flying with your friends also helps as you can quickly call them to assist you. If you're the only one left on your team you should climb, look out for enemy fighters and Boom & Zoom them, just keep in mind that P-47 is not the best plane to do 1 vs 2 in. Try to separate enemies and pick them off one by one.

The last thing you should do in P-47 is ground-pound in realistic battles. Taking bombs and rockets will make your plane even more sluggish than it already is and because of that you will have to fly near the ground, and that typically makes the P-47 easy pickings for other enemy fighters. Bombers are typically a difficult target to go after as they usually soak up quite a bit of ammunition before taking critical damage and you risk being set afire or sniped by the defensive gunners.

It is important to mention the two schools of thought regarding the ammunition belts for .50 cals. The first one says that you should use ''Ground Targets'' belts because of the high amount of armour piercing rounds which do a lot of damage and can easily shred anything hit with them. However, the second school of thought states one should use ''Tracers'' belts because they have the highest chance of setting the enemy on fire which will typically leads to a fiery destruction of the enemy aircraft. But, there's one thing everyone agrees on: Don't use ''Default'' belts, upgrade away from them as soon as possible.

'''Simulator'''

In Simulator / Enduring Confrontation, bulkier planes that suffer in AB & RB shine and that of course includes the P-47. In Sim, the P-47 has great control handling, , fast speed, and a wide range of additional armaments of bombs and rockets, plus the original 8 x .50 cal, meaning it is an excellent multi-role aircraft. However, the razorback P-47's have more canopy frames that can be obstructing in a dogfight, plus its iconic razorback completely blocking your rear vision, it means you have subpar visibility. It can perform base-bombing, ground pounding, bomber intercepting and traditional BnZ fighting.

For base bombing, choose the maximum setup of 1 x 500 lbs, 2 x 1,000 lbs and 10 x rockets to maximise the damage. The fastest way to get to a base is to remain at tree-top level upon taking off. This way there is no need to climb so the P-47 can pick up quite some speed like that, even with the full bombload. It is also harder to be seen, since the P-47's dark colour will blend in with the ground for some maps. When approaching the base, check its position with the minimap to ensure it's the right target. When the base fills up the gunsight, pull up to around 500 m and then dive at the base at a rather shallow angle. Now you can fire all the rockets as the distance is pretty close. When the gunsight slices past the furthest edge of the base, release all the bombs, bank to the direction of the nearest friendly airfield, descend back to tree-top level and fly back. If you are lucky, you might even catch some enemy bombers that just took-off from a nearby airfield. They will be some nice RP for you. Overall, base bombing is the safest way to get rewards.

For ground pounding, you can choose to take the full bombload if you want. Use the bombs and rockets to take out pillboxes and tanks. The aiming method for bombs is pretty similar to base bombing, but there are differences for the 500 lb and 1000 lb, as their drop are different and you want to adapt the aim to be more precise, because now the targets are much smaller. Dive at a shallow angle to approach the target, try to get as close as possible but avoid crashing into the ground. When the gunsight slices through and just above the target, drop the 1000 lbs. When the target is at the center of the gunsight and fills up around 1/3 of it, release the 500 lb. The 8 MGs are perfect for killing trucks, AA guns and artilleries as they have plenty of ammo. However, constantly watch your surrounding, especially your high 6 for any incoming enemies.

You want to be more careful when hunting bombers, since with the Sim control (whether it be mouse joystick or a real stick) the plane will manoeuvre much more gently, making itself a great target for the bomber's gunners. Do not follow behind a bomber's tail unless you are sure that its tail gunners are unconscious. Chasing behind a bomber makes yourself pretty much stationary for the tail gunners, and you will be showered with bullets. The big radial engine of the P-47 will usually get damaged. Instead, before launching an attack, get an altitude advantage over the bomber by flying around 2 km above it. The bomber should only fill up about 1/6 of your gunsight. The best position for an attack is at the bomber's high 6 so you can adjust the lead much easier. Dive at the bomber, but not directly at it, try to predict where you two will crash by imagining yourself as a missile, that's where you should aim at (deflection shooting). To maximise the damage it is better to aim for their wings and engines, as the fuselage usually soaks up quite some bullets. Only fire when the bomber passes in front of your guns. This short window might seems inadequate to do anything, but the 8 MG on the P-47 are actually quite destructive, as sometimes it only takes one bullet to set the target aflame.

As for dogfighting, because almost all aerial battles in Sim occurs at below 3,000 m, the P-47 can easily climb to this altitude and gather up lots of speed before engaging a battle. The tactic is similar to the RB one above. If, unfortunately, you find yourself being chased at your 6 and you don't know how to do any defensive manoeuvres, do a large, smooth turn towards the nearest friendly airfield to avoid bleeding too much speed. Then shallow-dive towards your airfield. The P-47 can quite easily outrun opponents like the A6M or Bf-109 E, but struggles to outrun Bf-109 F/G, FW-190 A or other P-47. Another way of disengaging is to do a sudden split-S to dodge under the chaser. Average Sim players will now try and see where you went, if not immediately losing track of you. You can then run for your airfield or shallow climb for another attack.

'''Enemies worth noting (sim):'''

* [[Me 264]]: This giant is one of the few bombers who get air spawns in Sim, so it usually flies higher than you think. On top of this, the Me 264 is armed with large calibre MG and cannons all over it, therefore tailing a 264 is basically suicide unless all of their gunners are knocked out. You can treat the 264 almost like a B-29 or B-17 as they are very similar in both design and defensive capabilities. It is best to head-on the 264 if you can as you can easily knock out the pilots due to its glazed nose while also taking minimal damage. However the bomber lacks a ventral turret on its belly, making it easy to deal damage from below, but be weary of the downwards facing rear 20 mm cannon near the tail. The safest way to attack is from a higher altitude, dive at an oblique angle and focus fire on the wings and nose. Never engage if you have no altitude advantage.
* [[Bf 110 (Family)|Bf 110]], [[Ki-45 (Family)|Ki-45]], [[A-26 (Family)|A-26]]: As mentioned before, those twin engine aircraft are a big threat since their lack of manoeuvrability comparing to single engine fighters are minimised in Sim. They are usually armed with heavy guns & cannons in the nose, so an accurate burst will tear any plane apart, including the P-47. The P-47 manoeuvres rather sluggishly and you might get out-turned from even those heavy fighters, so engage them with either altitude or speed advantage to avoid being targeted. If they are not manoeuvring aggressively, aim for their wings or engines. If the fight is intense and you cannot smooth the aim, just burst anywhere as long as you hit them, the 12.7 mm bullets will damage their flight models quite a bit.
* [[ZSD63]]: A dangerous SPAA to go up against in Tank Realistic Battles. Though it is hard to identify specific SPAA vehicles on the ground (especially when they are shooting tracers at the plane), if a ZSD63 is identified, avoid it at all costs and '''do not''' attempt head-ons with it, ever. It can easily snap a wing off by casually putting a short burst in the P-47D-25's flight path. Don't even get close to it unless it is busy shooting someone else or if the P-47D-25 has a bomb ready for use. Some identifying features of the ZSD63 is its rather boxy and tall hull with a geometric turret sitting at the back, slightly similar to a Wirbelwind's. The firing manner is also distinctive: the sound and green tracers are very rapid, much like a buzz saw, but then it will remain silent for half a minute reloading. Note that an experienced ZSD player will hold its fire or shoot in single salvos with long halts between, making it look like that it's reloading. Armor piercing belt is recommended since their high penetration can tear through the ZSD's armor with ease and knock out its crews.
* [[Yak-2 KABB]]: Do not think that the P-47D-25 can confidently out maneuver this plane just because it is twin-engined. The Yak-2 has an amazing turn rate for a heavy fighter, thus the P-47D-25 must avoid turning with it, if not dogfighting with it in general. It bears a pair of ShVAK cannons that can easily damage vital parts like engine or cooling systems. It has green camo, greatly resembling an Me 410 but with an H-tail like a Bf 110's.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
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| Controllable || Controllable Auto control available || Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Separate || Controllable 1 gear || Auto controlled
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=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Forgiving aircraft
* Eight deadly .50 cal M2 Brownings
* Good ground-attack ordinance selection
* Unrivaled high altitude performance
* Very good high-speed manoeuvrability
* Good climb rate, on par with the [[Bf 109 G-2]]
* Almost unrivalled top speed
* Airbrakes
* Radial engine is generally resistant to damage
* Access to premium bonuses in Silver Lions and Research Points

'''Cons:'''

* Payloads encourage a low-altitude attacker play style, playing into P-47M's disadvantages
* Poor low-Speed manoeuvrability
* Mediocre low altitude performance
* Large size and wingspan makes it an easy target when the enemy has lead
* Engine damage is very likely in head-ons

== History ==

=== P-47M-1-RE ===
Four P-47D-27 Aircraft were pulled from the production line at the Farmingdale factory and were fitted with the Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57(C) engine. They were also equipped with a larger CH-5 turbo-supercharger allowing the aircraft to reach 2800hp at 32,000 feet. Air brakes were also added underneath the wings to aid in deceleration and recovery during dives. These four prototypes were re-designated YP-47M.

The engine installations were eventually added to the last 130 P-47D-30s from Farmingdale in Sept of 1944. They were all re-designated P-47M-1-RE. It is important to note that the under-wing racks were not fitted to this aircraft. It was intended to be strictly a fighter. They were delivered in Dec. of 1944. The dorsal fins were later added as a field modification.

The M-variant saw service with the 56th Fighter Group but problems with the new highly tuned R-2800 delayed their use until the last weeks of the war in Europe. At one point the aircraft was pulled from service and replaced with D variants until the aircraft performed reliably. The P-47M was never used against V-1 flying bombs, its original target.

=== Witold Łanowski ===
Witold Łanowski was born in Lwów, Poland (now Lviv in Ukraine) on June 8, 1915. His father got a job as a bank manager in Zakopane, and his family subsequently moved there. Łanowski graduated from elementary school, and then attended the 11th Mathematics and Natural Sciences Gymnasium in Lwów. At the 11th Mathematics and Natural Sciences Gymnasium, he began to learn to fly. In 1935, he moved to the Aviation Cadet School in Dęblin, which he graduated from in 1938 but stayed at as an instructor.

During the invasion of Poland in September 1939, he flew combat missions in the defense of Dęblin - achieving two aerial victories against enemy aircraft - before the school retreated to southern Poland. The Soviet Red Army captured Łanowski's unit as they were trying to reach Romania on 17 September. After he and several others escaped, Łanowski managed to cross the Romanian border on 27 September. He remained in Romania for a month before moving to France, where he was jailed in May 1940 for criticizing the French command. Again, Łanowski escaped and this time made it to Britain in July 1940.

His Royal Air Force (RAF) flight training began in April 1941, and after graduation he was assigned to 308 "Krakow" Fighter Squadron. In November, he transferred to 317 "Wileński" FS and then to 308 "Poznań" Fighter Squadron in January 1942. He was transferred to Squadron 302 in December 1942, commanding Squadron A. He lost his command position after an argument with a British official, and was only reinstated in March 1944 - flying a P-51B Mustang in 335 Reconnaissance Squadron. It was during this time that he was given the nickname of "Lanny" by American aviators.

He was then transferred to the 56th Fighter Group, 61st Fighter Squadron, US Army Air Force (USAAF). The 61st FS flew Republic P-47M Thunderbolts, and Łanowski shot down four enemy planes while serving in the USAAF, bringing his total to six planes downed.

After the war, Łanowski once again flew for the RAF, this time as a transport pilot. He had an accident at the German Fassburg Airport while flying the de Havilland Venom and subsequently spent eleven months undergoing medical treatment before he was finally released. After serving another two years with the RAF, Łanowski then flew as a mercenary in the Katanga Air Force in 1962. His unit flew there for two years before Katanga lost the war.

Witold Łanowski passed away in London on 16 September, 1993.

=== [[wt:en/news/5872-special-a-centenary-of-poland-regaining-independence-en|Centenary of Poland Regaining Independence News]] ===
Witold Łanowski, nicknamed "Lanny" first enrolled in the military in memory of his colleagues as a self-confident and impartial individual and demonstrated himself as a great instructor and pilot. He was born on June 8th, 1915 in Lwów, and in 1935 he joined the Cadet School in Dęblin. After four years he became an instructor. During World War II, thanks to Gładych's support, he was transferred to the American 61st Fighter Squadron, where on May 15th, 1944, he finally took control of a Thunderbolt. The P-47M-1-RE version which he piloted had a new, more powerful engine, which made it faster than almost any German fighter with a piston engine. The aircraft was armed with eight 12.7 mm machine guns and also could carry bombs and rockets which also made it an effective ground attacker.

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== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6938-event-102-year-anniversary-of-poland-regaining-independence-enn|[Event] 102 Year Anniversary of Poland Regaining Independence]]
* [[wt:en/news/5872-special-a-centenary-of-poland-regaining-independence-en|[Special] A Centenary of Poland Regaining Independence]]
* [http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/234553-republic-p-47m/ Official WT forum Aircraft Data Sheet section: "Republic P-47M"]

=== Bibliography ===

* American Air Museum in Britain. (n.d.). Retrieved December 11, 2020, from https://www.americanairmuseum.com/person/237987
* Piwoński, P. (n.d.). Łanowski Witold. Retrieved December 11, 2020, from http://www.shinden.org/av_hist/index.php?position=0.1.22

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