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Spitfire Mk IXc (Israel)

2023-03-06T01:59:48Z

U65912523: /* History */

{{About
| about = fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
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| link = Spitfire (Family)
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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 8,537 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 627 || 609 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 18.1 || 18.7 || 15.8 || 15.8 || rowspan="2" | 380
|-
! Upgraded
| 676 || 650 || 16.4 || 17.2 || 24.4 || 19.5
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| X || X || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || N/A || 230 || ~12 || ~7
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 321 || < 400 || < 350 || > 450
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|Hispano Mk.II (20 mm)|Browning (7.7 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 2 x 20 mm Hispano Mk.II cannons, wing-mounted (120 rpg = 240 total)
* 4 x 7.7 mm Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (350 rpg = 1,400 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|AN-M57 (250 lb)|Flz.-Rakete Oerlikon}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 2 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (500 lb total)
* 2 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs + 16 x Flz.-Rakete Oerlikon rockets (500 lb total)
* 16 x Flz.-Rakete Oerlikon rockets

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===

''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''

'''Pros:'''
*

'''Cons:'''
*

== History ==
'
The IAF built its first Spitfire from “junk” which was left by the RAF when the British forces evacuated Palestine, as well as from components from the six REAF Spitfires (referred to above) which had been shot down. On 23rd July 1948, the IAF’s first reconstructed Spitfire was test-flown by Boris Senior, a South African Machalnik. The Spitfire was flown from the Herzlia airfield to a landing strip at Ma’abarot, and became operational in August 1948. A second Egyptian Spitfire was also reconstructed from RAF junk and from components of the Spitfires which had been shot down, and was test-flown on 14th October by Morrie Mann (a British Machalnik). This aircraft became operational on 21st October. During “Operation Horev” in December 1948, one Egyptian Spitfire was captured intact at the REAF’s El-Arish air base in the Gaza Strip.
Operation “Velvetta"
September 1948, the War of Independence was in full swing and a burning issue was on the agenda - the young IAF was at a significant disadvantage in relation to its enemies. The IAF consisted mainly of Avia S-199 Messerschmitt aircraft which were purchased from Czechoslovakia, but they were small in numbers and quite damaged, so the IAF had to procure additional, higher quality aircraft. At the time, the most suitable and available aircraft was the Spitfire. In the midst of an American arms embargo and difficulty cooperating with other countries, during the war's second temporary cease fire, a deal was signed with Czechoslovakia, which outlined the purchase of 50 Spitfires which were left by the USAF in Czechoslovakia for 2,3000 dollars for each aircraft.

This operation was of high secrecy, as it was opposed by both Britain and the USSR. To preserve secrecy, the Israelis were not allowed to talk with Yugoslavian soldiers or citizens. They were given permission to use the base at Nikšić and repaint their aircraft markings with Yugoslav roundels for the flight to Israel so that the shipment would not arouse any suspicions. After landing in Israel, the roundels were removed to uncover hidden Israeli roundels.

== Media ==


;Skins
* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=spitfire_mk9c_iaf Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

== See also ==


;Related development
* [[Spitfire (Family)]]

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

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Category talk:Israel ground vehicles

2022-08-09T20:14:25Z

U65912523: /* listen */ new section

== listen ==

There are so many Israeli inventions that it is impossible to describe, for example reactive defense and gijin put a triple finger on us

Category talk:Israel ground vehicles

2022-07-17T19:51:42Z

U65912523:

Category talk:Israel ground vehicles

2022-07-17T19:42:43Z

U65912523: /* Hutchis H39 in the IDF */ new section

Even before the establishment of the State of Israel, there was a serious need for heavy weapons. This need was expressed mainly by Yitzhak Sadeh. As early as the fall of 1947, procurement activists were instructed to purchase tanks. The scope of the tanks that the people of the Jewish community worked to purchase and bring to Israel was 100 tanks, when only 40 of them arrived in Israel.

In practice, the amount of tanks used in the various battlefields was very small as follows:

In the Danish operation, 7 tanks were activated, of which only five were purchased abroad.
In Operation Yoav, nine tanks were activated, of which seven were purchased abroad.
In Operation Horev, five tanks were activated, of which only two were purchased abroad.
In the first half of 1948, 38 lightweight Stuart M5A1 light tanks were purchased from the U.S. Army surplus for $ 8,800 per tank. Due to the American embargo, an attempt was made to mislead (fail) to show that the tanks were intended for the Mexican army.

After this failed attempt, Yehuda Arazi managed to purchase 10 lightweight Hutchis 39-H tanks in France for $ 41,000 per tank. The tanks arrived in Israel on June 15, 1948. A professional technical inspection revealed that their technical condition was poor. For three weeks until Operation Danny, the 8th Brigade's workshop succeeded in operationally training five tanks. The first major operation was supposed to be the attack on Iraq al-Manshiyah as part of Operation Yoav. As a result of poor operational capability that caused some of them to fall into the canal, along with improper operation and stubborn resistance of the Egyptians, four remained on the battlefield. The disappointments from the Hochkis tanks caused them to be completely out of use and to use only their cannons in the White Armor.

At least one of these tanks was used by the Reich Army. This was discovered when a Nazi seal was uncovered on the Hochkis tank on display at the Hand Armor Museum in Latrun. On the other hand, another tank from the same shipment whose turret was placed in the area of Beit Jubrin as a training target (number 2415 imprinted in the turret), did not fall prey and did not serve in the German army like the one in Latrun.

== Hutchis H39 in the IDF ==

The War of Independence and in the service of the IDF
Even before the establishment of the State of Israel, there was a serious need for heavy weapons. This need was expressed mainly by Yitzhak Sadeh. As early as the fall of 1947, procurement activists were instructed to purchase tanks. The scope of the tanks that the people of the Jewish community worked to purchase and bring to Israel was 100 tanks, when only 40 of them arrived in Israel.

In practice, the amount of tanks used in the various battlefields was very small as follows:

In the Danish operation, 7 tanks were activated, of which only five were purchased abroad.
In Operation Yoav, nine tanks were activated, of which seven were purchased abroad.
In Operation Horev, five tanks were activated, of which only two were purchased abroad.
In the first half of 1948, 38 lightweight Stuart M5A1 light tanks were purchased from the U.S. Army surplus for $ 8,800 per tank. Due to the American embargo, an attempt was made to mislead (fail) to show that the tanks were intended for the Mexican army.

After this failed attempt, Yehuda Arazi managed to purchase 10 lightweight Hutchis 39-H tanks in France for $ 41,000 per tank. The tanks arrived in Israel on June 15, 1948. A professional technical inspection revealed that their technical condition was poor. For three weeks until Operation Danny, the 8th Brigade's workshop succeeded in operationally training five tanks. The first major operation was supposed to be the attack on Iraq al-Manshiyah as part of Operation Yoav. As a result of poor operational capability that caused some of them to fall into the canal, along with improper operation and stubborn resistance of the Egyptians, four remained on the battlefield. The disappointments from the Hochkis tanks caused them to be completely out of use and to use only their cannons in the White Armor.

At least one of these tanks was used by the Reich Army. This was discovered when a Nazi seal was uncovered on the Hochkis tank on display at the Hand Armor Museum in Latrun. On the other hand, another tank from the same shipment whose turret was placed in the area of Beit Jubrin as a training target (number 2415 imprinted in the turret), did not fall prey and did not serve in the German army like the one in Latrun.

Category talk:Israel ground vehicles

2022-07-17T19:40:31Z

U65912523: Hutchis H39 in the IDF