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Su-11

2021-05-22T11:19:17Z

U65481001: /* Pros and cons */ added cannon cons

{{Specs-Card
|code=su-11
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 917 || 892 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 24.2 || 25.7 || 25.3 || 25.3 || rowspan="2" | 900
|-
! Upgraded
| 958 || 940 || 23.8 || 24.0 || 41.4 || 33.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 558 || 529 || 380 || ~11 || ~4
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 480 || < 580 || < 660 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | A.Lulka TR-1 || 2
| colspan="3" | 4,752 kg || colspan="2" | 297 kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 35m fuel
|-
| 760 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
| 5,306 kg || 5,805 kg || 6,331 kg || 6,598 kg || 6,650 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 35m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 1,306 kgf || N/A
| 0.49 || 0.45 || 0.41 || 0.40 || 0.39
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 1,306 kgf (0 km/h) || N/A
| 0.49 || 0.45 || 0.41 || 0.40 || 0.39
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


* 6 mm steel above pilot's head
* 12 mm steel headrest
* 12 mm steel behind pilot
* 15 mm steel behind frontal fuel tank
* 15 mm steel in front of armament
* 90 mm bulletproof glass in front of pilot
* Self-sealing fuel tanks (1 cleaver-shaped one behind pilot, 1 cleaver-shaped one in front of pilot)

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|N-37 (37 mm)|NS-23 (23 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 37 mm N-37 cannon, nose-mounted (30 rpg)
* 2 x 23 mm NS-23 cannons, nose-mounted (100 rpg = 200 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|FAB-250M-46 (250 kg)|FAB-500M-46 (500 kg)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 1 x 250 kg FAB-250M-46 bomb (250 kg total)
* 2 x 250 kg FAB-250M-46 bombs (500 kg total)
* 1 x 500 kg FAB-500M-46 bomb (500 kg total)

== Usage in battles ==
'''Air RB'''

The Su-11 can easily be one of the best aircraft at its BR, especially when piloted by an experienced -- or at least knowledgeable -- player. Her primary strength is her excellent acceleration, relative to other contemporary jets. She also has excellent energy retention (ER) and average to good manouvering energy retention (MER).

In general, the best tactic with the Su-11 is to play to her strengths, as with any vehicle; In the Su-11's case, particularly her acceleration and ER can be exploited. Take off from the airfield, and level out quickly. Don't bother gaining initial altitude, jet engines -- particularly early jet engines -- accelerate better at sea level. Turn at least 30 degrees away from the center of the map, and build up speed. You'll want to build up to about 725 kph - 805 kph (450 mph to 500 mph), and then place the aircraft into a 20-30 degree zoom climb (steady-state climbing is possible in this aircraft, but like most early jets, zoom climbing is most efficient). This will take you well above 3.5 km, usually closer to 5 km. Dive on unsuspecting enemies, particularly aircraft that don't maneuver well, and once they're destroyed, begin a 20-30 degree zoom climb to regain your lost altitude. Your ER is excellent, and you can typically regain all your lost altitude, if not gain on top of it.

Usually enemies on your tail can at least be out-accelerated, which causes most players to lose interest in you and break off the chase, even if their aircraft's top speed is higher than yours. Use this to your advantage. Manouverability is average, but certainly not poor. The Su-11's MER is excellent, however. If forced to dogfight and opponent whose vehicle has similar maneuverability, simply drain them of their energy with long, sweeping movements.

While the Su-11's armament packs a punch, excellent marksmanship is an absolute necessity. Her cannon's low ammo pool (x200 23 mm rounds, x30 37 mm rounds, 230 rounds total) is compounded by a relatively low rate of fire (on both cannons), and the rounds are also relatively low velocity (especially the 37 mm round). However, the rounds are extremely powerful, with the 37 mm round able to destroy heavy bombers in 1-2 hits, and the 23 mm round able to destroy lighter aircraft with 1-2 hits. If you are not comfortable with the cannons, your best option is to get as close as possible before opening fire to ensure a kill.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Decent manoeuvrability
* Good acceleration for an early jet
* Fast aircraft
* Heavy armament

'''Cons:'''

* Engines overheat quickly at 100% power
* Low ammo pool
* Low rate of fire, relatively low velocity (particularly the 37 mm) cannons

== History ==

The Su-9 was an early Soviet jet fighter built using knowledge and parts derived from the German Me 262 jet fighter.

The Su-11 was a project in 1946 to mount Yakovlev versions of the RD-10F engines in the Su-9 jet fighter. After testing the Su-9 in the wind tunnel, it was found that engines mounted in the wings rather than underneath reduced drag and that the wingtips also needed a redesign. As such, the Su-11 received a completely redesigned wing and before completion it was also received the Lyulka TR-1 turbojet engines. The two engines produced 2,865 lbf of thrust each for 5930 lbf of thrust total.

The Su-11 first flew on 28 May 1947, demonstrating a maximum speed of 940 km/h at sea level. Unfortunately, the design had a bad longitudinal stability and even modifications to the wing engine nacelles did not solve the issue. Because of these issues, the Su-11 programme was cancelled and did not enter production.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=ussr&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=jet_fighter&vehicle=su-11 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|1nCwVACmDQw|'''The Shooting Range #247''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:25 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/521170-su-11/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]

{{AirManufacturer Sukhoi}}
{{USSR jet aircraft}}
{{USSR premium aircraft}}

Su-11

2021-05-22T11:16:18Z

U65481001: /* Usage in battles */ added Air RB usage tips

{{Specs-Card
|code=su-11
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 917 || 892 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 24.2 || 25.7 || 25.3 || 25.3 || rowspan="2" | 900
|-
! Upgraded
| 958 || 940 || 23.8 || 24.0 || 41.4 || 33.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 558 || 529 || 380 || ~11 || ~4
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 480 || < 580 || < 660 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | A.Lulka TR-1 || 2
| colspan="3" | 4,752 kg || colspan="2" | 297 kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 35m fuel
|-
| 760 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
| 5,306 kg || 5,805 kg || 6,331 kg || 6,598 kg || 6,650 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 35m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 1,306 kgf || N/A
| 0.49 || 0.45 || 0.41 || 0.40 || 0.39
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 1,306 kgf (0 km/h) || N/A
| 0.49 || 0.45 || 0.41 || 0.40 || 0.39
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


* 6 mm steel above pilot's head
* 12 mm steel headrest
* 12 mm steel behind pilot
* 15 mm steel behind frontal fuel tank
* 15 mm steel in front of armament
* 90 mm bulletproof glass in front of pilot
* Self-sealing fuel tanks (1 cleaver-shaped one behind pilot, 1 cleaver-shaped one in front of pilot)

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|N-37 (37 mm)|NS-23 (23 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 37 mm N-37 cannon, nose-mounted (30 rpg)
* 2 x 23 mm NS-23 cannons, nose-mounted (100 rpg = 200 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|FAB-250M-46 (250 kg)|FAB-500M-46 (500 kg)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 1 x 250 kg FAB-250M-46 bomb (250 kg total)
* 2 x 250 kg FAB-250M-46 bombs (500 kg total)
* 1 x 500 kg FAB-500M-46 bomb (500 kg total)

== Usage in battles ==
'''Air RB'''

The Su-11 can easily be one of the best aircraft at its BR, especially when piloted by an experienced -- or at least knowledgeable -- player. Her primary strength is her excellent acceleration, relative to other contemporary jets. She also has excellent energy retention (ER) and average to good maneuvering energy retention (MER).

In general, the best tactic with the Su-11 is to play to her strengths, as with any vehicle; In the Su-11's case, particularly her acceleration and ER can be exploited. Take off from the airfield, and level out quickly. Don't bother gaining initial altitude, jet engines -- particularly early jet engines -- accelerate better at sea level. Turn at least 30 degrees away from the center of the map, and build up speed. You'll want to build up to about 725 kph - 805 kph (450 mph to 500 mph), and then place the aircraft into a 20-30 degree zoom climb (steady-state climbing is possible in this aircraft, but like most early jets, zoom climbing is most efficient). This will take you well above 3.5 km, usually closer to 5 km. Dive on unsuspecting enemies, particularly aircraft that don't maneuver well, and once they're destroyed, begin a 20-30 degree zoom climb to regain your lost altitude. Your ER is excellent, and you can typically regain all your lost altitude, if not gain on top of it.

Usually enemies on your tail can at least be out-accelerated, which causes most players to lose interest in you and break off the chase, even if their aircraft's top speed is higher than yours. Use this to your advantage. Maneuverability is average, but certainly not poor. The Su-11's MER is excellent, however. If forced to dogfight and opponent whose vehicle has similar maneuverability, simply drain them of their energy with long, sweeping movements.

While the Su-11's armament packs a punch, excellent marksmanship is an absolute necessity. Her cannon's low ammo pool (x200 23 mm rounds, x30 37 mm rounds, 230 rounds total) is compounded by a relatively low rate of fire (on both cannons), and the rounds are also relatively low velocity (especially the 37 mm round). However, the rounds are extremely powerful, with the 37 mm round able to destroy heavy bombers in 1-2 hits, and the 23 mm round able to destroy lighter aircraft with 1-2 hits. If you are not comfortable with the cannons, your best option is to get as close as possible before opening fire to ensure a kill.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Decent manoeuvrability
* Good acceleration for an early jet
* Fast aircraft
* Heavy armament

'''Cons:'''

* Engines overheat quickly at 100% power

== History ==

The Su-9 was an early Soviet jet fighter built using knowledge and parts derived from the German Me 262 jet fighter.

The Su-11 was a project in 1946 to mount Yakovlev versions of the RD-10F engines in the Su-9 jet fighter. After testing the Su-9 in the wind tunnel, it was found that engines mounted in the wings rather than underneath reduced drag and that the wingtips also needed a redesign. As such, the Su-11 received a completely redesigned wing and before completion it was also received the Lyulka TR-1 turbojet engines. The two engines produced 2,865 lbf of thrust each for 5930 lbf of thrust total.

The Su-11 first flew on 28 May 1947, demonstrating a maximum speed of 940 km/h at sea level. Unfortunately, the design had a bad longitudinal stability and even modifications to the wing engine nacelles did not solve the issue. Because of these issues, the Su-11 programme was cancelled and did not enter production.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=ussr&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=jet_fighter&vehicle=su-11 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|1nCwVACmDQw|'''The Shooting Range #247''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:25 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/521170-su-11/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]

{{AirManufacturer Sukhoi}}
{{USSR jet aircraft}}
{{USSR premium aircraft}}

G-5 (ShVAK)

2021-01-30T07:51:14Z

U65481001: /* Usage in battles */ finished by expansion of the G-5's armament description in 'Usage in Battles' section

{{About
| about = premium Soviet motor torpedo boat '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other variants
| link = G-5 (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ussr_g5_mtb_shvak
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet motor torpedo boat {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.83 "Masters of the Sea"]] as part of the fleet release into open beta test. This is a nice modification to the regular reserve version. The 20 mm cannon has good fire rate and good penetration.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}

[[File:X-RayImage StarboardView G-5.png|thumb|Profile shot of the G-5. The two engines sit at the bow and ammunition storage is tucked behind the bridge where the turret is.]]

The G-5 ShVAK has no armour in its overall design, to the point where the only armour is the bulletproof glass on the windows of the bridge, which provides 5 mm of protection! As such, any small arms armament can penetrate and destroy critical modules and knock out crew members. The G-5 carries a crew complement of six, all located around the conning tower of the ship, meaning any well-placed shots with high explosive rounds or concentration of fire on this area can see all the crew members knocked out and the ship destroyed!

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}

In Arcade battles, the ship can reach its top speed of 132 km/h within 14.9 seconds, and in Realistic & Simulator, it can reach up to 94 km/h within 14.3 seconds. The reverse speeds can reach up to an impressive 62 km/h! Its small size, combined with its breakneck speed and manoeuvrability, creates a highly agile ship.

{{NavalMobility}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armament ==
{{Specs-Fleet-Armaments}}
=== Primary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Primary}}

{{main|ShVAK (20 mm)}}

The 20 mm ShVAK cannon is a truly menacing tool, it provides great destructive capabilities over to enemy vehicles, whether it be aerial or naval targets which are met in battle. The cannon is placed at the rear of the conning tower, and provides great defensive and offensive capabilities for the ship. However, it is important to note that the ShVAK is unable to provide any stopping power when enemy ships are in front of it due to the ship commander is placed in front, along with the ship radio mask which prevents the cannon from being lowered.

* It takes between 5.85 and 4.5 Seconds to reload this in game - 4.5 second time is achieved with a fully qualified & upgraded crew.

The 20 mm ShVAK cannon has three choices of ammunition:

* '''Universal'''
* '''HE''' '''H'''igh '''E'''xplosive
* '''AP''' '''A'''rmour '''P'''iercing

Each ammunition has a unique belt that defines how the rounds are loaded into the gun.

=== Additional armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Additional}}

{{main|53-38 (533 mm)}}

The G-5 ShaVAK has two [[53-38]] torpedoes, placed in the rear of the ship. When these are launched from the ship, they are ejected backwards into the water and then submerse under the ship. These torpedoes are able to take down any ship in the game with well placed & calculated shots.

== Usage in battles ==


The G-5 ShVAK is a fast and manoeuvrable ship, with speeds up to 122 km/h in Arcade and 94 km/h in Realistic & Simulator Battles. The G-5 ShVAK also offers excellent manoeuvrability at high speeds compared to its competitors, such as the PT, LS, and others. Additionally, the G-5 ShVAK is armed with a 20 mm cannon; not all rivals have cannons or machine guns. The G-5 ShVAK is one of the fastest vessels in the game, almost twice as fast as other vessels similar in its class. As such, it is best utilised to capture points early, providing cover to allies with a smokescreen, and sneaking around enemies and ambushing them with hit-and-run tactics with its slightly faster and accurate torpedoes.

When playing the G-5 ShVAK in Arcade battles, it is crucial to be aware of your teammates - since most vessels travel at high speed, it is not impossible for your teammates to accidentally collide into you. When this happens, the G-5 is a small and lightweight vessel, and when they clash in the heat of battle, they can flip you over, and you drown.

In battle, whether it is Arcade, Realistic or Simulator, the G-5 ShVAK can be compared to a piranha; it's small, highly agile, resilient, and very fast, making it unstoppable in the hands of a skilled player. When engaging enemy ships, turn the G-5 into them, keeping G-5 profile, very small, and hard to hit. Using the tremendous high speed and manoeuvrability offered, bring the ship alongside and blast them with the ShVAK 20 mm cannon.

It is essential to make every shot count, do not aim for open spaces, aim for areas such as the bridge and engine room where the rounds from the G-5 will be able to cause a lot of damage to critical parts and knocking out sailors on the enemy vessel.

It should be noted that the ShVAK cannon armament, while relatively potent at close-range, is wildly inaccurate at longer ranges. Especially while travelling at or near top speeds, with no modern stabilizer of any kind, the ShVAK is subject to 'bouncing' over the waves, making long-distance shots very difficult. As such, the armament is most effective at short to medium-ranges (100-300 m). The 'HE' belt, with three fragmentation/incendiary-tracer & fragmentation/incendiary rounds to every one AP round, will be the most effective belt against smaller vessels, as they typically have little to no armour, making penetration not terribly important. Against medium to large-sized vessels or a smaller ship with a thick hull, the 'AP' belt, with three AP/AP-I rounds for every one FI-T round, will be most effective. Given its role as a short-to-medium range 'brawler,' though, one should consider taking mostly HE belts, with only a few AP belts, as the likelyhood of engaging a well-armored vessel at this BR is relatively low. That being said, consideration should also be given to the possibility of facing certain other Russian or Japanese vessels, as some of these ''do'' indeed sport relatively thick armor. Larger vessels should ideally be engaged with the torpedoes.

The G-5's torpedoes are more suited to be used against bigger, slower, and less manoeuvrable ships such as the [[BMO]], [[165 ft PC-451]], [[SF40 Leichte]], [[Isles class (T-285)|Isles class]], [[Type K-3 / No.1 Class]] and other types which are similar to these. However, it is not impossible to use the torpedoes on smaller targets.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Great top speed
* Great manoeuvrability
* 20 mm ShVAK cannon packs a more powerful punch than the DShK machine gun
* As with all PT boats, wields powerful torpedoes
* Torpedoes are stored internally, making it difficult to spot a launch
* Long range torpedoes (10 km)

'''Cons:'''

* No armour
* Low ammunition capacity for the ShVAK; can run out of ammo quickly if not properly handled.
* Inadequate gun elevation and transverse

== History ==

This is one of the probable modifications of the original G-5 ship since there is little to none historical data to prove it. Already using an engine from the aircraft, it is possible that one was modified with the 20 mm cannon. Standard armament on these patrol boats was a single 7.62 mm (0.300 in) machine gun, which was later upgraded to one or two 12.7 mm (0.50 in) DShK machine guns in different mounts.

== Media ==

[[File:Ussr g5 mtb shvak.jpg|thumb|none|250px|{{PAGENAME}} featured in in-game art.]]

== See also ==


* [[G-5]] - tech-tree version of the vessel

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/4291-development-g-5-torpedo-boat-the-little-terror-en/|[Development] G-5 torpedo boat: The Little Terror]]

{{USSR boats}}
{{USSR premium ships}}

G-5 (ShVAK)

2021-01-30T07:38:59Z

U65481001: /* Usage in battles */ ShVAK inaccuracy at longer-ranges

{{About
| about = premium Soviet motor torpedo boat '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other variants
| link = G-5 (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ussr_g5_mtb_shvak
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet motor torpedo boat {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.83 "Masters of the Sea"]] as part of the fleet release into open beta test. This is a nice modification to the regular reserve version. The 20 mm cannon has good fire rate and good penetration.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}

[[File:X-RayImage StarboardView G-5.png|thumb|Profile shot of the G-5. The two engines sit at the bow and ammunition storage is tucked behind the bridge where the turret is.]]

The G-5 ShVAK has no armour in its overall design, to the point where the only armour is the bulletproof glass on the windows of the bridge, which provides 5 mm of protection! As such, any small arms armament can penetrate and destroy critical modules and knock out crew members. The G-5 carries a crew complement of six, all located around the conning tower of the ship, meaning any well-placed shots with high explosive rounds or concentration of fire on this area can see all the crew members knocked out and the ship destroyed!

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}

In Arcade battles, the ship can reach its top speed of 132 km/h within 14.9 seconds, and in Realistic & Simulator, it can reach up to 94 km/h within 14.3 seconds. The reverse speeds can reach up to an impressive 62 km/h! Its small size, combined with its breakneck speed and manoeuvrability, creates a highly agile ship.

{{NavalMobility}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armament ==
{{Specs-Fleet-Armaments}}
=== Primary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Primary}}

{{main|ShVAK (20 mm)}}

The 20 mm ShVAK cannon is a truly menacing tool, it provides great destructive capabilities over to enemy vehicles, whether it be aerial or naval targets which are met in battle. The cannon is placed at the rear of the conning tower, and provides great defensive and offensive capabilities for the ship. However, it is important to note that the ShVAK is unable to provide any stopping power when enemy ships are in front of it due to the ship commander is placed in front, along with the ship radio mask which prevents the cannon from being lowered.

* It takes between 5.85 and 4.5 Seconds to reload this in game - 4.5 second time is achieved with a fully qualified & upgraded crew.

The 20 mm ShVAK cannon has three choices of ammunition:

* '''Universal'''
* '''HE''' '''H'''igh '''E'''xplosive
* '''AP''' '''A'''rmour '''P'''iercing

Each ammunition has a unique belt that defines how the rounds are loaded into the gun.

=== Additional armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Additional}}

{{main|53-38 (533 mm)}}

The G-5 ShaVAK has two [[53-38]] torpedoes, placed in the rear of the ship. When these are launched from the ship, they are ejected backwards into the water and then submerse under the ship. These torpedoes are able to take down any ship in the game with well placed & calculated shots.

== Usage in battles ==


The G-5 ShVAK is a fast and manoeuvrable ship, with speeds up to 122 km/h in Arcade and 94 km/h in Realistic & Simulator Battles. The G-5 ShVAK also offers excellent manoeuvrability at high speeds compared to its competitors, such as the PT, LS, and others. Additionally, the G-5 ShVAK is armed with a 20 mm cannon; not all rivals have cannons or machine guns. The G-5 ShVAK is one of the fastest vessels in the game, almost twice as fast as other vessels similar in its class. As such, it is best utilised to capture points early, providing cover to allies with a smokescreen, and sneaking around enemies and ambushing them with hit-and-run tactics with its slightly faster and accurate torpedoes.

When playing the G-5 ShVAK in Arcade battles, it is crucial to be aware of your teammates - since most vessels travel at high speed, it is not impossible for your teammates to accidentally collide into you. When this happens, the G-5 is a small and lightweight vessel, and when they clash in the heat of battle, they can flip you over, and you drown.

In battle, whether it is Arcade, Realistic or Simulator, the G-5 ShVAK can be compared to a piranha; it's small, highly agile, resilient, and very fast, making it unstoppable in the hands of a skilled player. When engaging enemy ships, turn the G-5 into them, keeping G-5 profile, very small, and hard to hit. Using the tremendous high speed and manoeuvrability offered, bring the ship alongside and blast them with the ShVAK 20 mm cannon.

It is essential to make every shot count, do not aim for open spaces, aim for areas such as the bridge and engine room where the rounds from the G-5 will be able to cause a lot of damage to critical parts and knocking out sailors on the enemy vessel.

It should be noted that the ShVAK cannon armament, while relatively potent at close-range, is wildly inaccurate at longer ranges. Especially while travelling at or near top speeds, with no modern stabilizer of any kind, the ShVAK is subject to 'bouncing' over the waves, making long-distance shots very difficult. As such, the armament is most effective at short to medium-ranges (100-300 m). The 'Tracer' belt, with pure fragmentation/incendiary-tracer rounds will be the most effective belt against smaller vessels, as they typically have little to no armour, making penetration not terribly important.

The G-5's torpedoes are more suited to be used against bigger, slower, and less manoeuvrable ships such as the [[BMO]], [[165 ft PC-451]], [[SF40 Leichte]], [[Isles class (T-285)|Isles class]], [[Type K-3 / No.1 Class]] and other types which are similar to these. However, it is not impossible to use the torpedoes on smaller targets.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Great top speed
* Great manoeuvrability
* 20 mm ShVAK cannon packs a more powerful punch than the DShK machine gun
* As with all PT boats, wields powerful torpedoes
* Torpedoes are stored internally, making it difficult to spot a launch
* Long range torpedoes (10 km)

'''Cons:'''

* No armour
* Low ammunition capacity for the ShVAK; can run out of ammo quickly if not properly handled.
* Inadequate gun elevation and transverse

== History ==

This is one of the probable modifications of the original G-5 ship since there is little to none historical data to prove it. Already using an engine from the aircraft, it is possible that one was modified with the 20 mm cannon. Standard armament on these patrol boats was a single 7.62 mm (0.300 in) machine gun, which was later upgraded to one or two 12.7 mm (0.50 in) DShK machine guns in different mounts.

== Media ==

[[File:Ussr g5 mtb shvak.jpg|thumb|none|250px|{{PAGENAME}} featured in in-game art.]]

== See also ==


* [[G-5]] - tech-tree version of the vessel

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/4291-development-g-5-torpedo-boat-the-little-terror-en/|[Development] G-5 torpedo boat: The Little Terror]]

{{USSR boats}}
{{USSR premium ships}}

F-80A-5

2020-12-25T10:25:59Z

U65481001: /* Usage in battles */ clarified wording of my last edit

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.39]]. The plane was redesignated from the P-80A-5 to the F-80A-5 in [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]].

The main purpose of the F-80 is to teach a pilot how to fly jets in general. If a pilot is doing well (read: has even or close to even k/d) in the F-80, he's ready to move to higher-ranked jets. Never give up your speed: it is the plane's insurance. Only trade it for the altitude in zoom climbs!

Be careful that the jet is up-tiered quite a lot. When this happens, strictly adhere to the rules set forth in this article or you will be at a great disadvantage.

One thing to take note of is the M2 Brownings. Sadly, they are insufficient for high-speed combat due to the low rate of fire and subsequently limited damage output; be aware, however, that they still pack a punch in partial headons with 262s, 229s, and the like. The issue is later on fixed with the [[Browning M3 (12.7 mm)|M3 Browning]] on the successor [[F-80C-10|F-80C ''Shooting star'']], but the ammunition load still remains low, like on the [[P-51D-5|P-51D]]. As for piston planes: they are capable of setting enemy piston planes on fire in a short burst. All of the guns are mounted in the nose, making them deadly accurate when performing head-ons, especially once the "new 12 mm MGs" modification is installed. For ground attack, there is the usual complement of ordnance for the USAF: [[HVAR]] rockets and standard 1000 lb bombs.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 854 || 829 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 24.3 || 24.8 || 19.1 || 18.0 || rowspan="2" | 950
|-
! Upgraded
| 899 || 882 || 21.9 || 23.0 || 28.5 || 23.6
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 560 || 560 || 360 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 482 || < 600 || < 640 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | Empty mass || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | Allison J33-A-17 || 1
| colspan="2" | 3,980 kg || colspan="3" | 239 kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 32m fuel
|-
| 850 kg || colspan="2" | Centrifugal-flow turbojet
| 4,362 kg || 4,800 kg || 5,199 kg || 5,278 kg || 6,500 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 32m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 1,651 kgf || N/A
| 0.38 || 0.34 || 0.32 || 0.31 || 0.25
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 1,651 kgf (0 km/h) || N/A
| 0.38 || 0.34 || 0.32 || 0.31 || 0.25
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


* 10 mm Steel - Fore cockpit armour
* 12.7 mm Steel - Behind pilot's seat
* 38 mm Bulletproof glass

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

As with most early jets, the acceleration is sub-par, so ''Compressor'' and ''Engine'' should be focused on first, then a choice between ''Airframe'', ''New Boosters'' or the ''Offensive 12 mm''. ''Wings Repair'' is recommended to help with the F-80's average manoeuvrability. Afterwards, the ''G-Suit'' upgrade will come in handy. ''Fuselage Repair'' and ''Cover'' are not really useful and can be ignored until the very end, although ''Airframe'' can be used to help the mediocre durability (the tail control will burn away instantly when you catch on fire unless you have ''Airframe).''

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|M2 Browning (12.7 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 6 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, nose-mounted (300 rpg = 1,800 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|HVAR}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 8 x HVAR rockets
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==


This F-80 must be flown strictly as Boom-and-Zoom, or Boom-and-Run. Anything else does not work due to the aircraft's inferior acceleration compared to props and some Axis jets at certain speeds. While its manoeuvring energy retention (MER) is relatively poor - as with most early jets - its vertical and horizontal energy retention (ER) is decent.

At the beginning of the match, the F-80 should climb away from the potential combat zone. Two climbs can be used; a 'standard' steady-state climb, keeping the aircraft at a fixed angle or speed, optimally no greater than 10-12 degrees; or, ideally, a zoom climb. To accomplish this, take off, and away from the 'centre' of the battlefield, as you would to start a 'normal' side-climb. However, the Shooting Star should be kept relatively level, an angle of no greater than 5-7 degrees should be maintained, preferably lower. To reach well over 3 km (10,000 ft), build your speed to approximately 800 km/h (500 mph), and only then place the F-80 in a 10-20 degree climb. If you need or want to get into the battle quicker, before you begin the zoom-climb, execute a 'diving-turn' towards the centre of the battlefield (so as to maintain as much of your built-up airspeed as possible), then put yourself into the zoom-climb (this is slightly riskier, as you'll be entering a low energy state as you enter the centre of the battlefield; if an enemy aircraft has managed to climb above you, this may leave you in a precarious position). To reach around 2.5-2.75 km (8,000-9,000 ft), reaching 485-540 km/h (300-400 mph) is ideal.

For ground strike, the F-80 is a decent aircraft, carrying the USAF standard of bombs, rockets, and ground attack belts. It is not recommended to hit ground targets unless an enemy bomber is spaceclimbing, however; this is a fighter and not a lumbering attacker, and should be used as an air-superiority fighter.

In air combat, the F-80 performs admirably if flown to its strengths, i.e. boom-and-zoom. Dive on enemy targets, take a shot, and then execute a shallow to medium zoom climb. While the six nose-mounted .50 calibre M2 Brownings are beginning to show their age, they are still more than equal to the task, especially at the F-80's BR. Early jet engines do not take kindly to any sort of damage, and a slew of .50 calibre rounds are more than enough to wreak havoc on small-to-medium airframes. While its biggest con is simply lacking the hitting-power of HE-filled cannon rounds, the six HMGs have enough pros to make up for this shortcoming. First off, with some trigger discipline, a good marksman can down 4, or even 5 enemy aircraft, due to your relatively plentiful ammunition. Secondly, the high velocity of the rounds serve well with the increasing speeds of the jet age; Some cannon rounds can be difficult to hit fast-moving targets with due to their lower velocity. Lastly, all six guns are nose-mounted, packing the shot-grouping into a relatively small area. This means that a burst-mass of 7.34 lbs or 3.3 kg ''per second'' cam impact said relatively small area.

Tracer belts are an excellent choice; Although with the advent of jets, we see the introduction of all-metal airframes across nations, the fire-starting (and armor-piercing) ability of the M20 API-T round is still nothing to be trifled with. Tracers are inherently easier to aim, as well, and the penetration capability of the M20 API-T is only slightly less than that of the M2 AP round. The stealth belt is another good choice, with a 50/50 combination of M8 AP-I and M23 Incendiary rounds.

The F-80 is one of the fastest aircraft at its rank; however, due to its bad acceleration it must maintain energy discipline. Hard turns are taboo due to its poor MER; turn to engage, not to follow. Opponents like the [[Ho 229 V3|Ho 229]] can potentially outrun the F-80; however, due to the F-80A-5's higher acceleration at 650-750 km/h IAS compared to a Horton, it is possible to keep up with one for a while.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Great energy retention compared to piston planes
* Great zoom climb compared to piston planes
* Excellent energy retention compared to the Me 262
* Faster than any piston plane or early Axis jet
* Due to M2's lower rate of fire, the pilot can spray longer and have less trigger discipline
* M2 Brownings fire high-velocity rounds, reducing required lead of target and making head-ons more viable

'''Cons:'''

* M2 Brownings offer limited damage output
* The nose-mounted guns are set lower than wing-mounted weapons and require getting used to at close range
* No WEP in realistic battle
* Only a 105% increase in throttle in an arcade battle
* Four large fuel tanks on each wing
* Tail control tends to burn away whenever the plane is set on fire
* Roll rate locks up at about 500 IAS km/h

== History ==


[[File:XP-80A Gray Ghost.jpg|thumb|XP-80A Prototype 'Gray Ghost' in flight.]]
The F-80 Shooting Star was an American straight-wing jet aircraft. It was the first American-designed jet fighter to enter service, and served for a short time in the Korean war before being replaced by the more capable F-86 Sabre. The aircraft was designed in just 143 days<ref name=":0">Dwyer, L (2002)</ref>, and as a result, suffered from many critical issues; the aircraft was responsible for the deaths of several test pilots, including [[Bong's P-38J-15|Richard Bong]], America's highest scoring WWII ace<ref name=":1">Agle, D (2014)</ref>. The aircraft, originally intended to fight the Me-262 over the skies of Europe, arrived too late to see service in the Second World War. However, the plane would go on to serve in the Korean War, where it was the first American jet to see combat.

====== Design and development ======
The F-80 Shooting Star was the product of a design project started in mid-1943. At the time, Lockheed had been asked to produce an aircraft using the De Havilland Halford jet engine, capable of fighting the Me 262 ''Schwalbe'' on more-than-equal terms. As a result, a production prototype (see photo) was developed in just 143 days. This was a huge feat, as the aircraft was a full-scale prototype with functional armament. The aircraft was produced in a large tent in complete secrecy, while the team responsible for it's production would become the predecessor to Lockheed's famous 'Skunk Works'<ref name=":0" />.

Though the aircraft design was promising, it soon became evident that the aircraft's rushed development had led to a variety of design flaws. The aircraft was hypersensitive in pitch, had engine and flap issues, and even baked the pilot as the cockpit temperature rose to a sweltering 180 degrees Fahrenheit (82 degrees Celsius) during flight<ref name=":1" />. However, following a large funding boost, the major issues (including the cooked pilot) were solved. By late 1944, the P-80 program was a similar priority level as the B-29, and 1000 aircraft had already been ordered. This massive rush resulted in many fatalities - Lockheed's chief test pilot was killed following an engine failure, while four additional pilots (including Major Richard Bong) were killed in various accidents. The rising number of fatalities brought the P-80 program to a halt - as a result, the aircraft was given a large number of safety modifications to improve it's reliability in flight<ref name=":1" />. However, the biggest hit came in September of 1945, with the end of WWII. The USAF, looking to reduce costs, cut the total orders from 5000 to 2000. Nevertheless, the P-80 entered production.

====== Production and service history ======
The first pre-production YP-80 aircraft were ready just before the end of the war, but failed to see operational service. However, nearly 1700 P-80s were produced between 1946 and 1948, 924 being of the P-80A and P-80B variants. These aircraft had been re-engined with the Allison J-33, producing more power thus increasing the aircraft's combat capabilities. Starting from 1947 following the separation of the USAF, the P-80 was renamed the F-80 in accordance to new designation guidelines<ref name=":0" />.

The newly-introduced aircraft soon began to set records. In 1946, the aircraft became the first jet to cross the continental United States, from Long Beach to New York. In 1947, a specially modified F-80 set a new aviation speed record of 623 mph (1002 kph), which it held for a very short duration of time<ref>Roblin, S (2019)</ref>.

The F-80A had a short service life, having been replaced by newer F-80B and F-80C aircraft. As a result, the F-80A variants would never see combat, having been relegated to advanced training roles before the start of the Korean War. The F-80C was luckier, and saw combat over the Korean Peninsula as a fighter-bomber. By the end of the Korean war, the F-80 had flown almost 100 thousand sorties, dropped 41 thousand tonnes of bombs and destroyed 58 aircraft<ref name=":1" />. Quite an impressive track record for an aircraft built in a circus tent.

====== In-game description ======
"An all-metal, single-seat fighter-bomber with one turbojet engine. The aircraft was created by a group of Lockheed engineers (headed by Clarence ""Kelly"" Johnson) in only 143 days.

The first flight of the XP-80 prototype was performed in January 1944. The first production version, designated the P-80A Shooting Star, entered service in 1946. The P-80 became the first combat-capable jet aircraft to enter service with the USAAF.

1947 saw the appearance of the next production version of the aircraft, the P-80B. The ninth production P-80A-1 was converted to a new prototype, designated the XP-80B. It had an Allison J33-A-17 turbojet engine producing 1,816 kg of thrust, equipped with a methanol-water injection system. The airfoil was thinner, but the skin's thickness was increased. To install a water mixture tank, the plane's fuel quantity had to be sacrificed by reducing it from 1,781 to 1,610 liters The aircraft also received a Lockheed-designed ejection seat and a cockpit air-conditioning system.

The plane's armament consisted of six 12.7 mm Colt-Browning M3 machine guns with 300 rounds each in the forward fuselage. One 1,000 lb (454 kg) bomb or ten 5-inch (127 mm) unguided HVAR missiles could be suspended under each wing panel.

A total of 240 P-80B fighter-bombers were built from March 1947 to March 1948, including P-80B-1s and 31 P-80B-5s. The В-5 variant was intended to be operated in Arctic conditions; its heated canopy prevented icing. In addition, special types of oil and special rubber were used to operate the aircraft in low temperature conditions.

At least five P-80Bs were equipped with a guidance system for Bell GAM-63 RASCAL air-to-surface missiles. Externally, these aircraft differed in the shape of the forward fuselage and the wing-mounted tanks. Also, they were fitted with extra spoilers on the upper and lower wing surfaces.

In June 1948, when the US military aircraft designation system was changed, the P-80B was renamed to the F-80B.

When the Korean War started, F-80Bs were stationed in the USA and in Europe, being used by the USAAF mainly for training purposes. Later, 117 F-80Bs were brought up to the F-80C's standards and re-designated ""F-80C-12."" The remaining F-80Bs were withdrawn from service by the end of 1951."

== Media ==


;Skins

* Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=usa&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=fighter&vehicle=f-80a F-80A-5] in Warthunder Live.

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|lyVSK_mI9T8|'''F-80A-5 Shooting Star (The Wishing Well!)''' - ''Jengar''|1PkB1QZDZT8|'''War Thunder F-80A-5 - Wingbreaker''' - ''Adam514''|yZsd7JhoRWk|'''RB Gameplay - P-80A-5 - Early Jet Tutorial!''' - ''theOrangeDoom''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[F-80C-10]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Bell [[P-59A|P-59]] Airacomet
* de Havilland [[Vampire FB 5|Vampire]]
* Gloster [[Meteor (Family)|Meteor]]
* Messerschmitt [[Me 262 (Family)|Me 262]]
* Mikoyan-Gurevich [[MiG-9]]
* Yakovlev [[Yak-23]]

== External links ==


=== References ===
<references />

=== Works Cited ===

* Dwyer, L. (2002, June 3). P-80 Shooting Star. Retrieved November 13, 2020, from [http://www.aviation-history.com/lockheed/p80.html Website]
* Agle, D. (2014, September 24). Shooting Star. Retrieved November 13, 2020, from [https://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/shooting-star-180952799/?page=3 Website]
* Roblin, S. (2019, January 03). Meet the F-80 Shooting Star: The First U.S. Jet Fighter That Went to War Against North Korea. Retrieved November 13, 2020, from [https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/meet-f-80-shooting-star-first-us-jet-fighter-went-war-against-north-korea-40417 Website]

{{AirManufacturer Lockheed}}
{{USA jet aircraft}}

F-80A-5

2020-12-25T10:23:10Z

U65481001: /* Usage in battles */ clarified wording of my last edit

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.39]]. The plane was redesignated from the P-80A-5 to the F-80A-5 in [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]].

The main purpose of the F-80 is to teach a pilot how to fly jets in general. If a pilot is doing well (read: has even or close to even k/d) in the F-80, he's ready to move to higher-ranked jets. Never give up your speed: it is the plane's insurance. Only trade it for the altitude in zoom climbs!

Be careful that the jet is up-tiered quite a lot. When this happens, strictly adhere to the rules set forth in this article or you will be at a great disadvantage.

One thing to take note of is the M2 Brownings. Sadly, they are insufficient for high-speed combat due to the low rate of fire and subsequently limited damage output; be aware, however, that they still pack a punch in partial headons with 262s, 229s, and the like. The issue is later on fixed with the [[Browning M3 (12.7 mm)|M3 Browning]] on the successor [[F-80C-10|F-80C ''Shooting star'']], but the ammunition load still remains low, like on the [[P-51D-5|P-51D]]. As for piston planes: they are capable of setting enemy piston planes on fire in a short burst. All of the guns are mounted in the nose, making them deadly accurate when performing head-ons, especially once the "new 12 mm MGs" modification is installed. For ground attack, there is the usual complement of ordnance for the USAF: [[HVAR]] rockets and standard 1000 lb bombs.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 854 || 829 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 24.3 || 24.8 || 19.1 || 18.0 || rowspan="2" | 950
|-
! Upgraded
| 899 || 882 || 21.9 || 23.0 || 28.5 || 23.6
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 560 || 560 || 360 || ~11 || ~5
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 482 || < 600 || < 640 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | Empty mass || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | Allison J33-A-17 || 1
| colspan="2" | 3,980 kg || colspan="3" | 239 kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 32m fuel
|-
| 850 kg || colspan="2" | Centrifugal-flow turbojet
| 4,362 kg || 4,800 kg || 5,199 kg || 5,278 kg || 6,500 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 32m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 1,651 kgf || N/A
| 0.38 || 0.34 || 0.32 || 0.31 || 0.25
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 1,651 kgf (0 km/h) || N/A
| 0.38 || 0.34 || 0.32 || 0.31 || 0.25
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


* 10 mm Steel - Fore cockpit armour
* 12.7 mm Steel - Behind pilot's seat
* 38 mm Bulletproof glass

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

As with most early jets, the acceleration is sub-par, so ''Compressor'' and ''Engine'' should be focused on first, then a choice between ''Airframe'', ''New Boosters'' or the ''Offensive 12 mm''. ''Wings Repair'' is recommended to help with the F-80's average manoeuvrability. Afterwards, the ''G-Suit'' upgrade will come in handy. ''Fuselage Repair'' and ''Cover'' are not really useful and can be ignored until the very end, although ''Airframe'' can be used to help the mediocre durability (the tail control will burn away instantly when you catch on fire unless you have ''Airframe).''

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|M2 Browning (12.7 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 6 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, nose-mounted (300 rpg = 1,800 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|HVAR}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 8 x HVAR rockets
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==


This F-80 must be flown strictly as Boom-and-Zoom, or Boom-and-Run. Anything else does not work due to the aircraft's inferior acceleration compared to props and some Axis jets at certain speeds. While its manoeuvring energy retention (MER) is relatively poor - as with most early jets - its vertical and horizontal energy retention (ER) is decent.

At the beginning of the match, the F-80 should climb away from the potential combat zone. Two climbs can be used; a 'standard' steady-state climb, keeping the aircraft at a fixed angle or speed, optimally no greater than 10-12 degrees; or, ideally, a zoom climb. To accomplish this, take off, and away from the 'centre' of the battlefield, as you would to start a 'normal' side-climb. However, the Shooting Star should be kept relatively level, an angle of no greater than 5-7 degrees should be maintained, preferably lower. To reach well over 3 km (10,000 ft), build your speed to approximately 800 km/h (500 mph), and only then place the F-80 in a 10-20 degree climb. If you need or want to get into the battle quicker, before you begin the zoom-climb, execute a 'diving-turn' towards the centre of the battlefield (so as to maintain as much of your built-up airspeed as possible), then put yourself into the zoom-climb (this is slightly riskier, as you'll be entering a low energy state as you enter the centre of the battlefield; if an enemy aircraft has managed to climb above you, this may leave you in a precarious position). To reach around 2.5-2.75 km (8,000-9,000 ft), reaching 485-540 km/h (300-400 mph) is ideal.

For ground strike, the F-80 is a decent aircraft, carrying the USAF standard of bombs, rockets, and ground attack belts. It is not recommended to hit ground targets unless an enemy bomber is spaceclimbing, however; this is a fighter and not a lumbering attacker, and should be used as an air-superiority fighter.

In air combat, the F-80 performs admirably if flown to its strengths, i.e. boom-and-zoom. Dive on enemy targets, take a shot, and then execute a shallow to medium zoom climb. While the six nose-mounted .50 calibre M2 Brownings are beginning to show their age, they are still more than equal to the task, especially at the F-80's BR. Early jet engines do not take kindly to any sort of damage, and a slew of .50 calibre rounds are more than enough to wreak havoc on small-to-medium airframes. While its biggest con is simply lacking the hitting-power of HE-filled cannon rounds, the six HMGs have enough pros to make up for this shortcoming. First off, with some trigger discipline, a good marksman can down 4, or even 5 enemy aircraft, due to your relatively plentiful ammunition. Secondly, the high velocity of the rounds serve well with the increasing speeds of the jet age; Some cannon rounds can be difficult to hit fast-moving targets with due to their lower velocity. Lastly, all six guns are nose-mounted, packing the shot-grouping into a relatively small area. This means that a burst-mass of 7.34 lbs or 3.3 kg ''per second'' cam impact said relatively small area.

Tracer belts are an excellent choice; Although with the advent of jets, we see the introduction of all-metal airframes across nations, the fire-starting ability of the M20 API-T round is still nothing to be trifled with. Tracers are inherently easier to aim, as well, and the penetration capability of the M20 API-T is only slightly less than that of the M2 AP round. The stealth belt is another good choice, with a 50/50 combination of M8 AP-I and M23 Incendiary rounds.

The F-80 is one of the fastest aircraft at its rank; however, due to its bad acceleration it must maintain energy discipline. Hard turns are taboo due to its poor MER; turn to engage, not to follow. Opponents like the [[Ho 229 V3|Ho 229]] can potentially outrun the F-80; however, due to the F-80A-5's higher acceleration at 650-750 km/h IAS compared to a Horton, it is possible to keep up with one for a while.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Great energy retention compared to piston planes
* Great zoom climb compared to piston planes
* Excellent energy retention compared to the Me 262
* Faster than any piston plane or early Axis jet
* Due to M2's lower rate of fire, the pilot can spray longer and have less trigger discipline
* M2 Brownings fire high-velocity rounds, reducing required lead of target and making head-ons more viable

'''Cons:'''

* M2 Brownings offer limited damage output
* The nose-mounted guns are set lower than wing-mounted weapons and require getting used to at close range
* No WEP in realistic battle
* Only a 105% increase in throttle in an arcade battle
* Four large fuel tanks on each wing
* Tail control tends to burn away whenever the plane is set on fire
* Roll rate locks up at about 500 IAS km/h

== History ==


[[File:XP-80A Gray Ghost.jpg|thumb|XP-80A Prototype 'Gray Ghost' in flight.]]
The F-80 Shooting Star was an American straight-wing jet aircraft. It was the first American-designed jet fighter to enter service, and served for a short time in the Korean war before being replaced by the more capable F-86 Sabre. The aircraft was designed in just 143 days<ref name=":0">Dwyer, L (2002)</ref>, and as a result, suffered from many critical issues; the aircraft was responsible for the deaths of several test pilots, including [[Bong's P-38J-15|Richard Bong]], America's highest scoring WWII ace<ref name=":1">Agle, D (2014)</ref>. The aircraft, originally intended to fight the Me-262 over the skies of Europe, arrived too late to see service in the Second World War. However, the plane would go on to serve in the Korean War, where it was the first American jet to see combat.

====== Design and development ======
The F-80 Shooting Star was the product of a design project started in mid-1943. At the time, Lockheed had been asked to produce an aircraft using the De Havilland Halford jet engine, capable of fighting the Me 262 ''Schwalbe'' on more-than-equal terms. As a result, a production prototype (see photo) was developed in just 143 days. This was a huge feat, as the aircraft was a full-scale prototype with functional armament. The aircraft was produced in a large tent in complete secrecy, while the team responsible for it's production would become the predecessor to Lockheed's famous 'Skunk Works'<ref name=":0" />.

Though the aircraft design was promising, it soon became evident that the aircraft's rushed development had led to a variety of design flaws. The aircraft was hypersensitive in pitch, had engine and flap issues, and even baked the pilot as the cockpit temperature rose to a sweltering 180 degrees Fahrenheit (82 degrees Celsius) during flight<ref name=":1" />. However, following a large funding boost, the major issues (including the cooked pilot) were solved. By late 1944, the P-80 program was a similar priority level as the B-29, and 1000 aircraft had already been ordered. This massive rush resulted in many fatalities - Lockheed's chief test pilot was killed following an engine failure, while four additional pilots (including Major Richard Bong) were killed in various accidents. The rising number of fatalities brought the P-80 program to a halt - as a result, the aircraft was given a large number of safety modifications to improve it's reliability in flight<ref name=":1" />. However, the biggest hit came in September of 1945, with the end of WWII. The USAF, looking to reduce costs, cut the total orders from 5000 to 2000. Nevertheless, the P-80 entered production.

====== Production and service history ======
The first pre-production YP-80 aircraft were ready just before the end of the war, but failed to see operational service. However, nearly 1700 P-80s were produced between 1946 and 1948, 924 being of the P-80A and P-80B variants. These aircraft had been re-engined with the Allison J-33, producing more power thus increasing the aircraft's combat capabilities. Starting from 1947 following the separation of the USAF, the P-80 was renamed the F-80 in accordance to new designation guidelines<ref name=":0" />.

The newly-introduced aircraft soon began to set records. In 1946, the aircraft became the first jet to cross the continental United States, from Long Beach to New York. In 1947, a specially modified F-80 set a new aviation speed record of 623 mph (1002 kph), which it held for a very short duration of time<ref>Roblin, S (2019)</ref>.

The F-80A had a short service life, having been replaced by newer F-80B and F-80C aircraft. As a result, the F-80A variants would never see combat, having been relegated to advanced training roles before the start of the Korean War. The F-80C was luckier, and saw combat over the Korean Peninsula as a fighter-bomber. By the end of the Korean war, the F-80 had flown almost 100 thousand sorties, dropped 41 thousand tonnes of bombs and destroyed 58 aircraft<ref name=":1" />. Quite an impressive track record for an aircraft built in a circus tent.

====== In-game description ======
"An all-metal, single-seat fighter-bomber with one turbojet engine. The aircraft was created by a group of Lockheed engineers (headed by Clarence ""Kelly"" Johnson) in only 143 days.

The first flight of the XP-80 prototype was performed in January 1944. The first production version, designated the P-80A Shooting Star, entered service in 1946. The P-80 became the first combat-capable jet aircraft to enter service with the USAAF.

1947 saw the appearance of the next production version of the aircraft, the P-80B. The ninth production P-80A-1 was converted to a new prototype, designated the XP-80B. It had an Allison J33-A-17 turbojet engine producing 1,816 kg of thrust, equipped with a methanol-water injection system. The airfoil was thinner, but the skin's thickness was increased. To install a water mixture tank, the plane's fuel quantity had to be sacrificed by reducing it from 1,781 to 1,610 liters The aircraft also received a Lockheed-designed ejection seat and a cockpit air-conditioning system.

The plane's armament consisted of six 12.7 mm Colt-Browning M3 machine guns with 300 rounds each in the forward fuselage. One 1,000 lb (454 kg) bomb or ten 5-inch (127 mm) unguided HVAR missiles could be suspended under each wing panel.

A total of 240 P-80B fighter-bombers were built from March 1947 to March 1948, including P-80B-1s and 31 P-80B-5s. The В-5 variant was intended to be operated in Arctic conditions; its heated canopy prevented icing. In addition, special types of oil and special rubber were used to operate the aircraft in low temperature conditions.

At least five P-80Bs were equipped with a guidance system for Bell GAM-63 RASCAL air-to-surface missiles. Externally, these aircraft differed in the shape of the forward fuselage and the wing-mounted tanks. Also, they were fitted with extra spoilers on the upper and lower wing surfaces.

In June 1948, when the US military aircraft designation system was changed, the P-80B was renamed to the F-80B.

When the Korean War started, F-80Bs were stationed in the USA and in Europe, being used by the USAAF mainly for training purposes. Later, 117 F-80Bs were brought up to the F-80C's standards and re-designated ""F-80C-12."" The remaining F-80Bs were withdrawn from service by the end of 1951."

== Media ==


;Skins

* Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=usa&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=fighter&vehicle=f-80a F-80A-5] in Warthunder Live.

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|lyVSK_mI9T8|'''F-80A-5 Shooting Star (The Wishing Well!)''' - ''Jengar''|1PkB1QZDZT8|'''War Thunder F-80A-5 - Wingbreaker''' - ''Adam514''|yZsd7JhoRWk|'''RB Gameplay - P-80A-5 - Early Jet Tutorial!''' - ''theOrangeDoom''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[F-80C-10]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Bell [[P-59A|P-59]] Airacomet
* de Havilland [[Vampire FB 5|Vampire]]
* Gloster [[Meteor (Family)|Meteor]]
* Messerschmitt [[Me 262 (Family)|Me 262]]
* Mikoyan-Gurevich [[MiG-9]]
* Yakovlev [[Yak-23]]

== External links ==


=== References ===
<references />

=== Works Cited ===

* Dwyer, L. (2002, June 3). P-80 Shooting Star. Retrieved November 13, 2020, from [http://www.aviation-history.com/lockheed/p80.html Website]
* Agle, D. (2014, September 24). Shooting Star. Retrieved November 13, 2020, from [https://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/shooting-star-180952799/?page=3 Website]
* Roblin, S. (2019, January 03). Meet the F-80 Shooting Star: The First U.S. Jet Fighter That Went to War Against North Korea. Retrieved November 13, 2020, from [https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/meet-f-80-shooting-star-first-us-jet-fighter-went-war-against-north-korea-40417 Website]

{{AirManufacturer Lockheed}}
{{USA jet aircraft}}

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== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.39]]. The plane was redesignated from the P-80A-5 to the F-80A-5 in [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]].

The main purpose of the F-80 is to teach a pilot how to fly jets in general. If a pilot is doing well (read: has even or close to even k/d) in the F-80, he's ready to move to higher-ranked jets. Never give up your speed: it is the plane's insurance. Only trade it for the altitude in zoom climbs!

Be careful that the jet is up-tiered quite a lot. When this happens, strictly adhere to the rules set forth in this article or you will be at a great disadvantage.

One thing to take note of is the M2 Brownings. Sadly, they are insufficient for high-speed combat due to the low rate of fire and subsequently limited damage output; be aware, however, that they still pack a punch in partial headons with 262s, 229s, and the like. The issue is later on fixed with the [[Browning M3 (12.7 mm)|M3 Browning]] on the successor [[F-80C-10|F-80C ''Shooting star'']], but the ammunition load still remains low, like on the [[P-51D-5|P-51D]]. As for piston planes: they are capable of setting enemy piston planes on fire in a short burst. All of the guns are mounted in the nose, making them deadly accurate when performing head-ons, especially once the "new 12 mm MGs" modification is installed. For ground attack, there is the usual complement of an ordinance for the USAF: [[HVAR]] rockets and standard 1000 lb bombs.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 854 || 829 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 24.3 || 24.8 || 19.1 || 18.0 || rowspan="2" | 950
|-
! Upgraded
| 899 || 882 || 21.9 || 23.0 || 28.5 || 23.6
|-
|}

====Details====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 560 || 560 || 360 || ~16 || ~8
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 482 || < 600 || < 640 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | Empty mass || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | Allison J33-A-17 || 1
| colspan="2" | 3,980 kg || colspan="3" | 239 kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 32m fuel
|-
| 850 kg || colspan="2" | Centrifugal-flow turbojet
| 4,362 kg || 4,800 kg || 5,199 kg || 5,278 kg || 6,500 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 32m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 1,651 kgf || N/A
| 0.38 || 0.34 || 0.32 || 0.31 || 0.25
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 1,651 kgf (0 km/h) || N/A
| 0.38 || 0.34 || 0.32 || 0.31 || 0.25
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


* 10 mm Steel - Fore cockpit armour
* 12.7 mm Steel - Behind pilot's seat
* 38 mm Bulletproof glass

=== Modifications and economics ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|Browning M2 (12.7 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 6 × 12.7 mm Browning M2 machine guns, nose-mounted (300 rpg = 1800 total)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|HVAR}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordinance:

* Without load
* 8 × 127 mm [[HVAR]] rockets
* 2 × 1000 lb (454 kg) [[AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|AN-M65A1]] bombs (2,000 lb total)

== Usage in battles ==
'''Air RB'''

This F-80 must be flown strictly as Boom-and-Zoom, or Boom-and-Run. Anything else does not work due to the aircraft's inferior acceleration compared to props and some Axis jets at certain speeds. While it's maneuvering energy retention (MER) is relatively poor -- as with most early jets -- it's vertical and horizontal energy retention (ER) is decent.

At the beginning of the match, the F-80 needs to climb away from the potential combat zone. Two climbs can be used; A 'standard' steady-state climb, keeping the aircraft at a fixed angle or speed, optimally no greater than 10-12 degrees; Or, ideally, a zoom climb. To accomplish this, take off, and away from the 'center' of the battlefield, as you would to start a 'normal' side-climb.' However, the Shooting Star should be kept relatively level, an angle of no greater than 5-7 degrees should be maintained, preferably lower. To reach well over 10,000ft or 3km, build your speed to approximately 500mph or 805kph, and only then place the F-80 in a 10-20 degree climb. If you need or want to get into the battle quicker, before you begin the zoom-climb, execute a 'diving-turn' towards the center of the battlefield (so as to maintain as much of your built-up airspeed as possible), then put yourself into the zoom-climb (this is slightly riskier, as you'll be entering a low energy state as you enter the center of the battlefield; If an enemy aircraft has managed to climb above you, this may leave you in a precarious position). To reach around 8,000-9,000ft or 2.5-2.75km, reaching 300-400mph or 485-540kph is ideal.

For ground strike, the F-80 is a decent aircraft, carrying the USAF standard of bombs, rockets, and ground attack belts. It is not recommended to hit ground targets unless an enemy bomber is spaceclimbing, however; this is a fighter and not a lumbering attacker, and should be used as an air-superiority fighter.

In air combat, the F-80 performs admirably if flown to its strengths, i.e. boom-and-zoom. Dive on enemy targets, take a shot, and then execute a shallow to medium zoom climb. While the six nose-mounted .50 caliber M2 Brownings are beginning to show their age, they are still more than equal to the task, especially at the F-80's BR. Early jet engines do not take kindly to any sort of damage, and a slew of .50 caliber rounds are more than enough to wreak havoc on small-to-medium airframes. While its biggest con is simply lacking the hitting-power of HE-filled cannon rounds, the six HMGs have enough pros to make up for this shortcoming. First off, with some trigger discipline, a good marksman can down 4, or even 5 enemy aircraft, due to your relatively plentiful ammunition. Secondly, the high velocity of the rounds serve well with the increasing speeds of early jets; Some cannon rounds can be difficult to hit fast-moving targets with due to their lower velocity. Lastly, all six guns are nose-mounted, packing the shot-grouping into a relatively small area. This means that a burst-mass of 7.34lbs or 3.3kg ''per second'' cam impact said relatively small area.

Tracer belts are an excellent choice; Although with the advent of jets, we see the introduction of all-metal airframes across nations, the fire-starting ability of the M20 API-T round is still nothing to be trifled with. Tracers are inherently easier to aim, as well, and the penetration capability of the M20 API-T is only slightly less than that of the M2 AP round. The stealth belt is another good choice, with a 50/50 combination of M8 AP-I and M23 Incendiary rounds. Ostensibly, the M23 ''should'' out-perform the M20 API-T in terms of fire-starting ability (due to the M23's historically rather large incendiary filler content); However, as of patch 2.3.0.24 (December 2020) the M20 seemingly outperforms the M23 in this area.

As of 1.99, the F-80 is locked in 7.0-7.3 matches against Axis jets, with the occasional mixed game in-between. This means it is ''always'' equal-tiered to its opponents, or a mere BR step below them. The F-80 is one of the fastest aircraft at its rank; however, due to its bad acceleration it must maintain energy discipline. Hard turns are taboo due to its poor MER; turn to engage, not to follow. Opponents like the 229 can potentially outrun the F-80; however, due to the F-80A-5's higher acceleration at 650-750 IAS compared to a Horton, it is possible to keep up with one for a while.

===Modules===
{| class="wikitable"
! colspan="1" | Tier
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
! colspan="1" | Survivability
! colspan="2" | Weaponry
|-
| I
| Fuselage Repair
| Compressor
|
| Offensive 12 mm
|
|-
| II
| New Boosters
|
| Airframe
|
| FRC mk.2
|-
| III
| Wings Repair
| Engine
|
| New 12 mm MGs
|
|-
| IV
| G-Suit
|
| Cover
|
| FLBC mk.1
|-
|}

As with most early jets, the acceleration is sub-par, so ''Compressor'' and ''Engine'' should be focused on first, then a choice between ''Airframe, New Boosters'' or the ''Offensive 12 mm''. ''Wings Repair'' is recommended to help with the F-80's average maneuverability. Afterwards, the ''G-Suit'' upgrade will come in handy. ''Fuselage Repair'' and ''Cover'' are not really useful and can be ignored until the very end, although ''Airframe'' can be used to help the mediocre durability (the tail control ''will'' burn away instantly when you catch on fire unless you have ''Airframe).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Great energy retention compared to piston planes
* Great zoom climb compared to piston planes
* Excellent energy retention compared to the Me 262
* Faster than any piston plane or early Axis jet
* Due to M2's lower rate of fire, the pilot can spray longer and have less trigger discipline
* M2 Brownings fire high-velocity rounds, reducing required lead of target and making head-ons more viable

'''Cons:'''

* M2 Brownings offer limited damage output
* The nose-mounted guns are set lower than wing-mounted weapons and require getting used to at close range
* No WEP in realistic battle
* Only a 105% increase in throttle in an arcade battle
* Four large fuel tanks on each wing
* Tail control tends to burn away whenever the plane is set on fire
* Roll rate locks up at about 500 IAS km/h

== History ==


[[File:XP-80A Gray Ghost.jpg|thumb|XP-80A Prototype 'Gray Ghost' in flight.]]
The F-80 Shooting Star was an American straight-wing jet aircraft. It was the first American-designed jet fighter to enter service, and served for a short time in the Korean war before being replaced by the more capable F-86 Sabre. The aircraft was designed in just 143 days<ref name=":0">Dwyer, L (2002)</ref>, and as a result, suffered from many critical issues; the aircraft was responsible for the deaths of several test pilots, including [[Bong's P-38J-15|Richard Bong]], America's highest scoring WWII ace<ref name=":1">Agle, D (2014)</ref>. The aircraft, originally intended to fight the Me-262 over the skies of Europe, arrived too late to see service in the Second World War. However, the plane would go on to serve in the Korean War, where it was the first American jet to see combat.

====== Design and development ======
The F-80 Shooting Star was the product of a design project started in mid-1943. At the time, Lockheed had been asked to produce an aircraft using the De Havilland Halford jet engine, capable of fighting the Me 262 ''Schwalbe'' on more-than-equal terms. As a result, a production prototype (see photo) was developed in just 143 days. This was a huge feat, as the aircraft was a full-scale prototype with functional armament. The aircraft was produced in a large tent in complete secrecy, while the team responsible for it's production would become the predecessor to Lockheed's famous 'Skunk Works'<ref name=":0" />.

Though the aircraft design was promising, it soon became evident that the aircraft's rushed development had led to a variety of design flaws. The aircraft was hypersensitive in pitch, had engine and flap issues, and even baked the pilot as the cockpit temperature rose to a sweltering 180 degrees Fahrenheit (82 degrees Celsius) during flight<ref name=":1" />. However, following a large funding boost, the major issues (including the cooked pilot) were solved. By late 1944, the P-80 program was a similar priority level as the B-29, and 1000 aircraft had already been ordered. This massive rush resulted in many fatalities - Lockheed's chief test pilot was killed following an engine failure, while four additional pilots (including Major Richard Bong) were killed in various accidents. The rising number of fatalities brought the P-80 program to a halt - as a result, the aircraft was given a large number of safety modifications to improve it's reliability in flight<ref name=":1" />. However, the biggest hit came in September of 1945, with the end of WWII. The USAF, looking to reduce costs, cut the total orders from 5000 to 2000. Nevertheless, the P-80 entered production.

====== Production and service history ======
The first pre-production YP-80 aircraft were ready just before the end of the war, but failed to see operational service. However, nearly 1700 P-80s were produced between 1946 and 1948, 924 being of the P-80A and P-80B variants. These aircraft had been re-engined with the Allison J-33, producing more power thus increasing the aircraft's combat capabilities. Starting from 1947 following the separation of the USAF, the P-80 was renamed the F-80 in accordance to new designation guidelines<ref name=":0" />.

The newly-introduced aircraft soon began to set records. In 1946, the aircraft became the first jet to cross the continental United States, from Long Beach to New York. In 1947, a specially modified F-80 set a new aviation speed record of 623 mph (1002 kph), which it held for a very short duration of time<ref>Roblin, S (2019)</ref>.

The F-80A had a short service life, having been replaced by newer F-80B and F-80C aircraft. As a result, the F-80A variants would never see combat, having been relegated to advanced training roles before the start of the Korean War. The F-80C was luckier, and saw combat over the Korean Peninsula as a fighter-bomber. By the end of the Korean war, the F-80 had flown almost 100 thousand sorties, dropped 41 thousand tonnes of bombs and destroyed 58 aircraft<ref name=":1" />. Quite an impressive track record for an aircraft built in a circus tent.

====== In-game description ======
"An all-metal, single-seat fighter-bomber with one turbojet engine. The aircraft was created by a group of Lockheed engineers (headed by Clarence ""Kelly"" Johnson) in only 143 days.

The first flight of the XP-80 prototype was performed in January 1944. The first production version, designated the P-80A Shooting Star, entered service in 1946. The P-80 became the first combat-capable jet aircraft to enter service with the USAAF.

1947 saw the appearance of the next production version of the aircraft, the P-80B. The ninth production P-80A-1 was converted to a new prototype, designated the XP-80B. It had an Allison J33-A-17 turbojet engine producing 1,816 kg of thrust, equipped with a methanol-water injection system. The airfoil was thinner, but the skin's thickness was increased. To install a water mixture tank, the plane's fuel quantity had to be sacrificed by reducing it from 1,781 to 1,610 liters The aircraft also received a Lockheed-designed ejection seat and a cockpit air-conditioning system.

The plane's armament consisted of six 12.7 mm Colt-Browning M3 machine guns with 300 rounds each in the forward fuselage. One 1,000 lb (454 kg) bomb or ten 5-inch (127 mm) unguided HVAR missiles could be suspended under each wing panel.

A total of 240 P-80B fighter-bombers were built from March 1947 to March 1948, including P-80B-1s and 31 P-80B-5s. The В-5 variant was intended to be operated in Arctic conditions; its heated canopy prevented icing. In addition, special types of oil and special rubber were used to operate the aircraft in low temperature conditions.

At least five P-80Bs were equipped with a guidance system for Bell GAM-63 RASCAL air-to-surface missiles. Externally, these aircraft differed in the shape of the forward fuselage and the wing-mounted tanks. Also, they were fitted with extra spoilers on the upper and lower wing surfaces.

In June 1948, when the US military aircraft designation system was changed, the P-80B was renamed to the F-80B.

When the Korean War started, F-80Bs were stationed in the USA and in Europe, being used by the USAAF mainly for training purposes. Later, 117 F-80Bs were brought up to the F-80C's standards and re-designated ""F-80C-12."" The remaining F-80Bs were withdrawn from service by the end of 1951."

== Media ==


;Skins

* Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=usa&vehicleType=aircraft&vehicleClass=fighter&vehicle=f-80a F-80A-5] in Warthunder Live.

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|lyVSK_mI9T8|'''F-80A-5 Shooting Star (The Wishing Well!)''' - ''Jengar''|1PkB1QZDZT8|'''War Thunder F-80A-5 - Wingbreaker''' - ''Adam514''|yZsd7JhoRWk|'''RB Gameplay - P-80A-5 - Early Jet Tutorial!''' - ''theOrangeDoom''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[F-80C-10]]

;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Bell [[P-59A|P-59]] Airacomet
* de Havilland [[Vampire FB 5|Vampire]]
* Gloster [[Meteor (Family)|Meteor]]
* Messerschmitt [[Me 262 (Family)|Me 262]]
* Mikoyan-Gurevich [[MiG-9]]
* Yakovlev [[Yak-23]]

== External links ==

====== References ======
<references />

====== Works Cited ======

* Dwyer, L. (2002, June 3). P-80 Shooting Star. Retrieved November 13, 2020, from [http://www.aviation-history.com/lockheed/p80.html Website]
* Agle, D. (2014, September 24). Shooting Star. Retrieved November 13, 2020, from [https://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/shooting-star-180952799/?page=3 Website]
* Roblin, S. (2019, January 03). Meet the F-80 Shooting Star: The First U.S. Jet Fighter That Went to War Against North Korea. Retrieved November 13, 2020, from [https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/meet-f-80-shooting-star-first-us-jet-fighter-went-war-against-north-korea-40417 Website]
{{AirManufacturer Lockheed}}
{{USA jet aircrafts}}

Ki-84 ko (China)

2020-12-24T06:40:46Z

U65481001: /* Pros and cons */ 'reasonably' --> 'relatively'

{{Specs-Card|code=ki_84_ko_china}}
{{About
| about = premium Chinese fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| other
| usage-1 = the Japanese version
| link-1 = Ki-84 ko
| usage-2 = other versions
| link-2 = Ki-84 (Family)
}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.93 "Shark Attack"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===

Equipped with a 2,000 hp engine, this aircraft's performance is on par with that of the legendary P-51 Mustang. However, unlike the Mustang, the Ki-84 has slightly better turning characteristics and climb rate thanks to its lighter weight. This being said, the Ki-84 also has good energy retention, so try to make your opponent bleed energy to have an edge. The Ki-84 was also one of the first mass-produced Japanese aircraft to come equipped with armoured glass, armour plates and self-sealing fuel tanks, but the armour is still lacklustre compared to its Russian and American counterparts. However, as always, not everything is perfect. The aircraft controls stiffen significantly at speeds above 630 km/h, making even slight adjustments to heading impossible. Thus, at higher speeds, its elevator suffers. The Ki-84 also suffers a lot when no modules are researched, making the aircraft almost useless until modifications are unlocked.

This aircraft should be played as it appears: a lightweight Japanese version of the Mustang, retaining good engine performance, decent climb-rate, high diving performance, but relatively lacklustre armament.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 6,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 669 || 650 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 20.2 || 20.8 || 14.1 || 14.1 || rowspan="2" | 421
|-
! Upgraded
| 719 || 692 || 19.1 || 19.4 || 22.6 || 17.9
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 500 || 380 || 280 || ~13 || ~9
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 400 || < 480 || < 430 || > 324
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 2,000 m || 1,875 hp || 2,100 hp
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 5,300 m || 1,675 hp || 1,876 hp
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===


* 6 mm steel behind pilot's head
* 13 mm steel behind pilot
* 70 mm bulletproof glass in front of pilot
* Self-sealing fuel tanks (1 under pilot's feet, 1 in each wingroot)

== Armaments ==
=== Offensive armament ===

{{main|Ho-5 (20 mm)|Ho-103 (12.7 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 2 x 20 mm Ho-5 cannons, wing-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
* 2 x 12.7 mm Ho-103 machine guns, nose-mounted (350 rpg = 700 total)

=== Suspended armament ===

{{main|Army Type 94 GPHE (50 kg)|Army Type 92 GPHE (250 kg)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 2 x 50 kg Army Type 94 GPHE bombs (100 kg total)
* 2 x 250 kg Army Type 92 GPHE bombs (500 kg total)

== Usage in battles ==

'''Realistic Battles'''

The strong rate of climb of this fighter allows for a significant altitude advantage to be made in the beginning of battles. As this fighter is usually paired with the Soviets against the Japanese, make sure to utilise this advantage as your Soviet teammates and many of the Japanese fighters that you will encounter will be unable to climb as high as you. However, if German aircraft are present in the opposing team be cautious of climbing too high as they will be able to easily gain an altitude advantage over you.

When encountering Japanese Zeroes (i.e. the A6M5) do not attempt to "turn-fight" them. Instead, maintain your energy with a typical boom and zoom technique as they will be unable to match your altitudes. The [[N1K (Family)|N1K2 series]] and the [[Bf 109 (Family)|Bf 109 series]] have greater rates of climb, but handle slightly worse at lower speeds, hence it is suggested that you should attempt to burn both your opponent's and your own energy using climbing corkscrew manoeuvres to bring both of you into your optimal fighting altitude (~4,000 m) at your best operating speed (< 400 km/h). Here you are more manoeuvrable and have a better chance at taking out these fast aircraft.

Due to your fairly weak weaponry, it is not advised to chase after heavily armoured bombers and instead focus on fighting enemy fighters. A potential approach is to support allied aircraft by maintaining a high altitude above them, preventing enemy aircraft from diving on top of your allies as you can control the airspace directly above them.

'''Simulator Battles'''

In Simulator, the Ki-84 is overall a decent plane to fly. It enjoys lovely visibility towards the rear, sides, above, and over the nose, giving the pilot great situational awareness. It has nice handling, good climb rate, great speed and acceleration. Armament-wise, the guns have enough fire rate to put quite a few projectiles into the target in one pass. However the Ki-84’s disadvantages are the limited damage, rudder efficiency at high speeds, the rather poor roll rate, and the compass at the front-right of the gunsight that can obstruct your view. This aircraft can be used in BnZ fighting, turn fighting, intercepting (to some extent) and some ground pounding.

Before taking off, bring at least 30 minutes of fuel for longer patrol time. Set the convergence to around 250 m since your weapons have low velocity, therefore needing more precise aim at longer range. While your Ki-84 roars down the runway, you will notice that it shifts severely to the left, thus you must put rudder input to the right to taxi straight. As with other Ki series aircraft, only elevator trim is available, so when the stick is at its deadzone, the Ki-84 will roll and yaw to the left side. Therefore you always need to pull the stick a little to the right which can get a bit annoying. Usually, trim for around -1% when cruising around 470 km/h, around -5% when diving around 600 km/h, and when fighting at around 400 km/h no negative trim is needed. When carrying the 2x 250kg bombload, no negative trim is needed as well. Landing characteristics are forgiving: cut throttle to make sure you are not above 350 km/h before touchdown. Deploy combat then takeoff flaps to further decelerate in preparation for extending landing gears. Extend at around 260 km/h, control your descend rate throughout. Right before touchdown, deploy landing flaps. The gears are quite sturdy. You can break until the plane reaches full stop and not worry about propeller strike.

For dogfighting, it is always safer to enter with an altitude advantage. Most dogfights in Sim happen around or below 3,000 m so the Ki-84 can easily climb up to that altitude. Once at an advantageous height, boom & zoom the enemies. The Ki-84 can easily accelerate to more than 550 km/h in a dive which is decently fast but requires more precise manoeuvres to get the correct lead, since the faster you go the smaller the shooting window is. Important note: when fighting above 550 km/h, you want to be more precise in the roll and pitch axis, since at this speed the rudder locks up severely, preventing you from making aim adjustments which negatively impacts the lead. You must pretend that your rudder doesn't exist and fully rely on the ailerons and elevators to lead. A successful pass will not usually cripple the enemy given the projectiles’ lacklustre damage, so multiple attacks are needed to destroy one plane. Aside from BnZ, the Ki-84 is also excellent at turn fighting - with the appropriate opponent, of course. Except a few dedicated turn fighters, the Ki-84 can out-turn and get on most opponents' tail with combat/takeoff flaps deployed, and can sustain its turning ability throughout the fight. The Ki-84's stable handling allows you to pull some tight manoeuvres, so don't worry too much about flat spins. If you become a prey, try some defensive manoeuvres like barrel rolls or disengage by diving steeply towards a nearby friendly airfield. Note that the Ki-84's roll rate is very average so avoid manoeuvres like scissors.

When performing the "destroy enemy surveillance aircraft/attackers/bombers" task, it is crucial to constantly evade the turrets. If it is a bomber/attacker with decent defensive firepower or robust protection, then you might want to disengage after some attempts if you don't want to die. Pay special attention to any plane equipped with M2 Browning MG, they can critically damage the Ki-84 especially on the engine, fuel tanks, and pilot which can always lead to a later crash. Before attacking try to get an altitude advantage and perform deflection shots. To maximise the damage it is better to aim for their wings and engines, as the fuselage usually soaks up quite some bullets. Only fire when the bomber passes in front of your guns. This short window is not enough to cripple a twin-engine aircraft given the slow velocity, light projectiles and low one-second burst mass. However sometimes it only takes one bullet to set the target aflame. DO NOT follow behind a bomber's 6 unless you are sure that its tail gunners are unconscious. Chasing behind a bomber makes yourself pretty much stationary for the tail gunners, and you will be showered with bullets.

For ground pounding, the best loadout is the 2 x 250 kg bombs. With an extra 500 kg of weight attached outside, the Ki-84 handles much clumsier during take offs, especially on the roll axis. Longer distance is needed before lifting off. It is quite easy to drop bombs accurately with a Ki-84 because this aircraft is able to quickly accelerate above 550 km/h in a dive, the bombs will travel an almost straight line towards the target, therefore you can aim the gunsight directly at the target and expect the bombs to land very close. After bombs away, immediately pull up. The 2 MGs perform well in killing trucks, AA guns and artilleries as they have plenty of ammo, but avoid wasting cannon shells. However, constantly watch your surrounding, especially your high 6 for any incoming enemies.

'''Enemies worth noting:'''

* [[Me 264]]: The Me 264 is armed with large calibre MG and cannons all over it, therefore tailing a 264 is basically suicide unless all of their gunners are knocked out. You can treat the 264 almost like a B-29 or B-17 as they are very similar in both design and defensive capabilities. It is best to head-on the 264 if you can as you can easily knock out the pilots due to its glazed nose while also taking minimal damage. However the bomber lacks a ventral turret on its belly, making it easy to deal damage from below, but be wary of the downwards facing rear 20 mm cannon near the tail. The safest way to attack is from a higher altitude, dive at an oblique angle and focus fire on the wings and nose. Never engage if you have no altitude advantage. Looking somewhat similar to a B-17, an Me 264 has huge back-swept wings with 2 engines on each, and a H-tail which differentiates it from a B-17/B-29.
* [[Yak-3 (Family)|Yak-3]]: this is a capable dogfighter or BnZ fighter that can be a huge threat. Although its firepower is not deadly, it can still critically damage a Ki-84. It is able to fly or dive at similar speeds, and can even engage a turn fight with a Ki-84 that is using takeoff flaps. The Yak-3 has a straight dorsal line housing an inline engine, a bubble canopy with a huge cooling intake sticking out the belly, and its symbolic, triangular wings.
* [[A6M (Family)|A6M]], [[Spitfire (Family)|Spitfire]], etc: If you see these turn fighters on your tail try outrunning them by diving at around -40 degrees. The Ki-84 still remains responsive handling at 600 km/h, but its speed retention is not the best, meaning it will start to lose speed quickly and the enemy might catch up. If you are near a friendly airfield, great. If not, then hope for the best and run towards the friendly side. A Spitfire also has an uncurved dorsal outline and large, elliptical wings. A Zero has a radial engine that's usually painted black, rounded wingtips and stabiliser tips followed by a pointy tail.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Controllable || Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Separate || Controllable 2 gears || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Modules ===
{| class="wikitable"
! Tier
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
! Survivability
! colspan="2" | Weaponry
|-
| I
| Fuselage repair
| Radiator
|
| Offensive 12 mm
| 9 in (mod23)
|-
| II
|
| Compressor
| Airframe
| New 12 mm MGs
| 12 in (mod27)
|-
| III
| Wings repair
| Engine
|
| Offensive 20 mm
|
|-
| IV
|
| Engine injection
| Cover
| New 20 mm cannons
|
|-
! colspan="6" | This is a premium vehicle: all modifications are unlocked on purchase
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Strong rate of climb compared to other fighters such as the [[Ki-61 (Family)|Ki-61 series]] and the [[A7M2]]
* Effective top speed and energy retention allowing for the effective use of "boom and zoom" tactics
* Great acceleration allowing speed to be regained quickly after duels
* Reasonable performance at high altitude
* Maintains a high degree of manoeuvrability at lower speeds
* Jack of all trades: nimble yet quick while having a good degree of energy retention, allows this fighter to hold its own against any fighter that it may encounter
* Thanks to its lack of canopy frames, a clear all-round canopy view especially over the nose gives it a huge advantage in simulator.

'''Cons:'''

* Not as manoeuvrable as the Japanese fighters that you will be facing at this tier, and struggles to contest the high altitudes of the Bf 109 series due to their superior rates of climb
* The "jack of all trades, master of none" character of this aircraft makes it difficult to play as pilots will need to adapt their play-style to counter specific aircraft that they are facing, subsequently requiring a fair degree of knowledge over the strengths and weaknesses of each aircraft that they will encounter
* The weapons feel fairly lacklustre, with the 20 mm cannons having a relatively low quantity of ammunition (at least compared to the 12.7 mm machine guns)
* Severe lock-up of the rudder above 500 km/h renders dive bombing or high speed boom and zoom less effective
* Elevator locks up at high speeds preventing optimal usage of its great energy retention
* A reasonably slow roll-rate causing this fighter to be vulnerable against Japanese fighters or the Fw 190's which are the typical opponents
* Fairly susceptible to damage with fires being particularly devastating to this light aircraft

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== See also ==
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