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Tiger II (H) Sla.16

2022-11-14T23:06:11Z

U579909: /* Description */ updated the armor and survivability to present values keeping in mind the newer tanks and the ammo types

{{About
| about = German heavy tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other variants
| link = Tiger II (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code = germ_pzkpfw_VI_ausf_b_tiger_IIh_sla
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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' ([[Abbreviations#.28DE.29_Sd.Kfz._Index|Sd.Kfz. Index:]] '''Sd.Kfz. 182''') is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} German heavy tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.57 "Battle March"]].

As a purchasable bundle vehicle, this variant comes with premium bonuses and the experimental installation of a diesel power engine, increasing its mobility vastly. Besides this, the Sla.16 functions near identically to the in-tree regular variant. It fits into the 6.7 line-up very well and can be utilised greatly in battle because of its enhanced combat capabilities.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}


The frontal armour of the Tiger II is average with its 150mm and the turret armour which is 185mm can be penetrated by a most of the tanks at its battle rating and a bit less when fighting in a down-tier, but still 90% of the tanks will pen your turret from the front. Angling this tank can save your driver and radio operator , but Only them. You cant angle the turret so it's a gamble if you end the game with the original gunner or your radio operator sits in the gunner seat. The side and back armour are pitiful with only 100 mm at its thickest, some SPAA at the rank can penetrate the sides so it is advised to never show your back or sides to an enemy lest you want to go back to the hangar/garage. It is slightly more armoured then its non-premium counterpart with added tracks on the sides on the turret, adding an extra 30 mm of armour to the very weak sides.

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=968|rbMinHp=663}}

The top speed on-road forwards is around 42-44 km/h, and the reverse speed is surprisingly good at -11 km/h (RB). These speeds combined with neutral steering mean the {{PAGENAME}} is quite agile despite its heavy tank status. The engine has a lot of horsepower and climbing hills is surprisingly easy with this variant of the famed King Tiger.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|KwK43 (88 mm)}}

The main gun this Panzer beholds is the long-barreled 88 mm KwK43 gun. This gun performs astoundingly well for this BR, offering high muzzle velocity with more than enough post-penetration damage. The muzzle velocity of this gun sits at around 1,000 m/s for APCBC and 1,400 m/s for the APCR round, and also has HEAT shells, making it an exceptional sniper and brawler alike. The APCBC stock shell gets a fair amount of explosive filler with a wide knock-out capability upon penetration. This shell exceeds in ammo-racking enemy tanks, so aim for ammo stowage on the enemy vehicle. The APCR should only really be used for engagements on enemies you cannot punch through with APCBC alone, since it offers significantly higher penetration at the expense of post-penetration damage, making it a very situational round. The same can be applied to the HEAT shell for long-range, as penetration dropoff does not matter on angled armour layouts, but instead offers poorer penetration values.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[KwK43 (88 mm)|88 mm KwK43]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 70 || rowspan="2" | -8°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 15.4 || 21.3 || 25.8 || 28.6 || 30.4 || rowspan="2" | 9.75 || rowspan="2" | 8.63 || rowspan="2" | 7.95 || rowspan="2" | 7.50
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 11.3 || 13.3 || 16.1 || 17.9 || 19.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| PzGr 39/43 || APCBC || 237 || 234 || 222 || 207 || 193 || 180
|-
| PzGr 40/43 || APCR || 279 || 273 || 252 || 227 || 205 || 185
|-
| Hl.Gr 39 || HEAT || 110 || 110 || 110 || 110 || 110 || 110
|-
| Sprgr.43 || HE || 14 || 14 || 14 || 14 || 14 || 14
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| PzGr 39/43 || APCBC || 1,000 || 10.16 || 1.2 || 14 || 108.8 || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| PzGr 40/43 || APCR || 1,130 || 7.3 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 66° || 70° || 72°
|-
| Hl.Gr 39 || HEAT || 600 || 7.64 || 0 || 0.3 || 1,100 || 62° || 69° || 73°
|-
| Sprgr.43 || HE || 820 || 9.4 || 0 || 0.1 || 1,000 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! 7th rack empty
! 8th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''70''' || 65 ''(+5)'' || 59 ''(+11)'' || 48 ''(+22)'' || 37 ''(+33)'' || 30 ''(+40)'' || 23 ''(+47)'' || 12 ''(+58)'' || 1 ''(+69)'' || No
|-
|}
[[File:Ammoracks_Tiger_II_(H).png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the [[Tiger II (H)]] (identical)]]
Thanks to the ready rack feature found on this tank, the ammo racks found in the back of the turret will always be full of ammo, making it the prime target for enemy tankers who are looking to detonate your ammo rack. Even solid shots like APCR and APDS that commonly pierce your front turret can make their way to the rear of the turret, potentially hitting the ready racks and can cause a critical hit to become a deadly one.

'''Notes:'''

* Recommended ammo load is 23 ''(+47)'' to keep the hull empty and both ready racks full.
* Racks 7 and 8 are ready racks, and take priority in being filled at the beginning of the battle, racks are then filled 6 through 1 in that order.
* Full reload speed will be realized as long as ammo exists in either ready rack. If both ready racks are empty, a penalty to reload speed will occur.
* Simply not firing the main gun when it is loaded will load ammo from racks 1-6 into 8 then 7, as long as there is ammo in racks 1-6. Firing the main gun will interrupt the loading of the ready racks.

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|MG34 (7.92 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[MG34 (7.92 mm)|7.92 mm MG34]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 3,000 (150) || 900 || N/A || N/A
|-
| Pintle || 2,000 (150) || 900 || -10°/+25° || -55°/+160°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==


Considering most of the players who use this vehicle will be using it in RB/SB, this section will be directed to them. The Tiger II can be used both as a brawler and a sniper. With its excellent 88 mm KwK43 gun and reliable armour layout, the Tiger II can take a fair few shots before getting knocked out. Try not to let your flanks become exposed if playing in urban maps especially. On open maps, you should stick to towns or hills and remain hull down to utilize your thick turret cheeks well. Aim for noticeable weak spots on enemies, ie. lower glacis shots or ammo rack shots will more often than not result in a reliable way to destroy them. The gun has a solid rate of fire, not too slow, so you can follow up with a return shot fairly quickly.

One common mistake many new Tiger II players make is assuming they can waltz down a road towards the enemy thinking they are invincible and will completely dominate them. In reality, they will either die immediately or get 1-2 kills before dying. Instead, try to maintain situational awareness and carefully advance towards the capture zone. Also, constantly make sure you aren't getting flanked. Light tanks especially can be quite annoying when playing the Tiger II so always make sure nobody can get to your side and destroy you.

You will adapt over time and learn where the weak spots of most opposing vehicles. At times, this tank will act more as a support tank when considering the typical opponents will more than likely have stabilizers and sufficient suspension dampening, putting you at a disadvantage if you can't train your gun onto the target first. American heavy tanks such as the [[T29]], [[T34]], [[T32]] and [[M103]] will sometimes give you trouble. The trick to dealing with these tough, heavily armoured foes is to aim for the lower glacis and more specifically towards the left/right of the lower glacis to avoid possible ricochets. When engaging these vehicles, if you are not confident in being able to penetrate on your first shot, try and shoot the gun barrel to prevent your foes from firing back at you. If you mess up the shot and the enemy can shoot you, use the Tiger II Sla.16's good reverse speed and pull out until you have reloaded.

It is best used at mid to long ranges, where its' small weak spots are hardest to hit. It can, however, be put to work on the front lines, protecting medium tanks and tank destroyers - just be aware of your limited mobility, and ensure you have options should you get advanced upon by multiple enemies.

When used as a sniper, it is best that you find a position with a good overview of the battlefield. Keep your tank positioned directly towards the enemy and keep an eye out for any medium tanks trying to flank you (Tiger II has great frontal armour, do not be afraid to use it. However, keep in mind that the lower plate offers less protection and penetrations can easily cause fires due to the positioning of mechanical parts). It is best that you find cover behind a solid object and slightly rotate your vehicle e.g.: rotate your tank about 10-15 degrees from the enemy (your turret too). Positioning, combined with distance, can easily give you effective armour greater than 300 mm. When "sniping" it is best to wait for the enemy to expose their weak points, fire a steady, accurate shot and retreat to a safe position. Wait for your reload to be completed and slowly show your frontal plate (most of the players will engage even though the chances of penetration are low); once the enemy has fired, you can take your time and engage the tank while they reload.

Using the Tiger II to advance and to support the front line can be rather tricky. While this tank offers great firepower and superior frontal armour, you'll notice that it is hard to fight in urban areas. In situations like this, you will quickly realize that the high weight and sheer size of the tank can cause major problems. Almost any tank that is faster will easily outmanoeuvre the Tiger II and destroy it. To avoid this, it is best to stay in the back (not too far from your team), keeping your tank positioned at an angle and using "peek-a-boo" techniques. You should always look for a position that can protect you during the assault of small tanks, such as "U" shaped buildings where you can easily retreat and protect your weak points.

====Counter-tactics====

[[File:Tiger II Shooting Guide.jpg|500px|left|thumb|Colour-frames showing the viability of targets on the Königstiger.]]

A Tiger II is a formidable enemy when it's used correctly by its operator, but it's by no means indestructible under any conditions.

The first thing you want to do is deny the Tiger II of the advantage of its gun by getting as close as possible while keeping clear of its cannon (the closer you get, the better the penetration values for you and the Tiger II) most Tiger II operators will avoid getting flanked at all costs so you might find yourself forced to face one from the front. The biggest weak spot is the lower frontal hull plate, its slopped but only 100 mm thick and behind it lies the transmission that likes to catch fires and create nasty shrapnel when destroyed, the shrapnel will fly inwards and if your shell is large enough they will take out the entire crew. However, this shot will most likely only leave the Tiger II unable to move for a minute and make his operator quite angry (at you) while his gun remains perfectly operational and before you have a chance reload you will most likely receive a very accurate shot from an irritated Tiger II operator.

The lower frontal plate is a good place to hit but it should be a second option, with this tank, you need to disable that gun as soon as possible, the turret is a very reliable target at close range, even with HEAT ammo you should be able to deliver a shot that will disable its firing capability for long enough for you to reload and shoot again. Using your best AP round for this is recommended since the frontal turret has a fairly thick (but flat) plate if nothing else works try APCR.

Using high calibre HE rounds is also effective. The cupola is probably the best place to hit with a HE shell since the explosion will deflect into the thin upper plate and destroy everything inside. It is not easy to hit, but if you manage to hit the cupola it's very unlikely it survives.

The Tiger II is very vulnerable to "Circling attacks", that means, running around it in circles and harass it with side shots. Its turret can turn quite fast (especially in arcade mode) but most medium tanks are fast enough to outrun it.

If you somehow manage to see an enemy Tiger II from the side, try to land a shot in the middle of the hull, near of the turret (not on the turret, the upper part of the hull), there's a good chance there will be ammo there, and if there isn't, you will either knock out the tank by taking out many crew members or cripple it heavily

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Armed with the powerful 88 mm KwK43 cannon
* The default APCBC round has very high shell velocity, penetration, and damage potential at all ranges
* Optics have magnification levels of 2.5x-5.0x. Really good for close range target acquisition and long range sniping
* 22 shells in the first stage ammo rack, giving this tank an impressive 7.5 seconds reload rate when equipped with an ace crew
* Pretty average frontal armour. The upper front plate offers ~200~210mm protection which is not enough even at lower BRs
* Enemy shells that penetrate the lower plate will likely have all of its damage absorbed by the transmission
* Same small turret as the Tiger II H, but has 30 mm of track armour covering the entire exterior of the turret sides
* Turret front is a small target, and the gun mantlet is large and offers ~340 mm protection which is alright but not excellent
* Armed with 12-rounds, semi-automatic smoke grenade launcher
* Thanks to its diesel engine, this tank has better acceleration and hill-climbing speed than the standard Tiger II (H)
* Though a heavy tank, it is a very fast and highly manoeuvrable when running at full power
* Decent reverse speed. Shoot and scoot tactics are easy to perform

'''Cons:'''

* While being a small target, the turret front is weakly armoured when facing even lower BR tanks
* All 22 rounds in the first stage ammo rack are located in the back of the turret. Shells entering the back of the turret will likely lead to an ammo explosion
* Both of the upper hull sides are lined with ammo. Any shells penetrating these areas almost always mean certain death
* The APCR shells are lacklustre and inferior to most of the contemporary US APCR rounds
* Terrible HEAT and HE shells. Load only a handfull of HE for really soft targets.
* Though the transmission will routinely eat enemy shells, that doesn't change the fact that the tank can still be immobilized from both front and rear shots
* Still a heavy tank, most mediums will have no problems catching up/flanking the tank if the player is not paying attention
* The roof mounted MG34 has a high rate of fire, but still only fires 8 mm bullets. Critically damaging enemy planes is unlikely
* Even in its BR and at lower BRs, the {{PAGENAME}} will routinely fight vehicles that were literally designed to kill tanks like the Tiger II (6.0BR M-51 with 400mm pen HEAT Shells)

== History ==

The Sla.16 diesel engine developed by Simmering-Graz-Pauker from Vienna. With a power output of around 750 hp, it was considerably more powerful than Maybach engine used by the [[Tiger E|Tiger I]], [[Tiger II (H)|Tiger II]], and [[Panther A|Panther]] tanks that had 690 hp. The Sla.16 was also proposed as the power unit for the infamous super-heavy [[Maus|Maus]] tank. According to various of sources such as ''Military Engineer'' and ''Amazing Porsche and Volkswagen Story'', the engines were tested with positive results. The recommendation was that these diesel engines were to be attached to the heavy tanks and tank destroyers currently in production for increased efficiency of the vehicles. A diesel engine was mounted onto a Tiger II as a prototype built by Nibelungen Werke and went through testings, though results have not been found from this test. Further proposals also wanted the engine to be mounted in the Panther and Jagdtiger vehicles for increased power, but the war's constraint on supplies and Nazi Germany's capitulation resulted in the cancellation of these programs.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=germ_pzkpfw_VI_ausf_b_tiger_IIh_sla Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Sights

* [https://live.warthunder.com/post/675135/en/ RideR2's Realistic gunsight (TZF4a, TZF 5a/b/d/e/f/f2, TZF 9b/b1/c/d, TZF 12/a) for Pzkpfw II, Pzkpfw III, Pzkpfw IV, Pzkpfw V, Pzkpfw VI]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|H5no8rcdihw|'''Should You Buy The {{PAGENAME}}?''' - ''Sako Sniper''|kntDJpF3Yao|'''{{PAGENAME}} Tank Review''' - ''NUSensei''|N5YJmEcfLxQ|'''The Shooting Range #5''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 03:12 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==


* [[Tiger II (H)]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/devblog/current/875/|[Devblog] Tiger II Sla.16: the diesel-engined "King Tiger"]]

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TAM 2IP

2022-11-05T18:50:15Z

U579909: modified the armor and survivability part since i havent found any chamical round after 6.0 that cant penetrate this tank. modified the front part too the mirror what i wroite in the first part and added a back part to point out the armor weakness

{{About
| about = German light tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = TAM (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=germ_thyssen_henschel_tam_2ip
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} German light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]]. Sitting between the [[TAM]] and [[TAM 2C]] in terms of performance, this tank is essentially an earlier TAM model with access to more modern ammunition and add-on armour for increased protection.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

Base armour of the TAM 2IP is very thin, just an 11 mm plate angled at 74° on the upper frontal glacis, and 15 mm of armour on the sides. Turret is not something to boast about either - the strongest plate being a gun mantlet with a 30 mm plate and sides being 25 mm thin.

On the bright side, the 2IP version is fitted with Iron Wall add-on composite armour. This variable thickness armour package increases effectiveness of armour against late war era chemical munitions, but has no effect on kinetic penetrators.

'''Front'''

Most noticeable increase in protection is on the upper plate of the hull, but sadly this doesn't help much since it offers only ~300mm protection against chemical rounds which are a rarity above 6.0 .

Add-on protection on the turret is not enough to defeat those same munitions. Frontal arc protection against autocannons is mostly great, but occasional lucky shots can penetrate the turret ring.

Players also must be aware of the giant weak spot that is the driver's area - it is only 11 mm plate angled at 74° and it is not protected by add-on armour, allowing vehicles like [[Dardo]] to get through.

'''Sides'''

While the TAM 2IP is now resistant to 12.7 mm rounds on the hull side, overall side protection remains poor, as it can still get easily penetrated by anything larger than 12.7 mm.

'''Back'''

Since it's a light tank you wont show your back too much but i didn't recieve any addon armor so it's really easy to penetrate even by br 1.0 tanks.

'''Crew'''

When looking at the TAM 2IP from the front, one can see that on the left side, the commander sits directly behind the gunner, while the loader sits almost directly behind the driver on the right side.

Both gunner and commander are protected by the transmission and the engine ([[Merkava (Family)|similar to Merkava tanks]]); while that won't protect them from most kinetic munitions, it can negate shrapnel from older chemical and HESH rounds that manages to get through add-on armour.

The driver is very vulnerable as he sits behind an 11 mm thin plate angled at 74°, with a first-stage ammo rack and loader directly behind him. Driver's area is not protected by add-on armour either.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Add-on composite armour

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 11 mm (77°) ''Upper glacis - Engine access panel'' 32 mm (77°) ''Upper glacis - Sides'' 32 mm (29°) ''Lower glacis - Top'' 32 mm (60°) ''Lower glacis - Bottom'' || 15 mm (30°) ''Top'' 15 mm ''Bottom'' || 11 mm (23°) ''Upper plate'' 11 mm (27°) ''Lower plate''
| 11-32 mm (13°) ''Front glacis'' 11 mm ''Crew compartment'' 5 mm ''Radiator vents''
|-
| Turret || 50 mm (5-35°) ''Turret front'' 30 mm + 30 mm (51-63°) ''Mantlet Front'' 25 mm (7-10°) ''Mantlet Sides'' 20 mm (79°) ''Roof glacis'' 30 mm (cylindrical) ''Gunner periscope'' || 25 mm (24-27°) ''Crew Compartment'' 15 mm (27°) ''Bustle'' 25 mm ''Cupola well'' || 15 mm (22°) 11 mm (79°) ''Turret underside'' || 20 (11°) ''Roof glacis'' 11 mm
|-
| Cupola || colspan="3" | 35 mm (cylindrical) || 35 mm ''Outer ring'' 11 mm ''Centre''
|-
|}

'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick
* Side skirts are 4 mm thick
* Air intake on the right side is 5 mm thick

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Composite armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides
|-
| Hull ||'''Upper glacis''' ~90 mm ''Kinetic'' ~520 mm ''Chemical'' ||'''Upper side''' ~45 mm ''Kinetic'' ~295 mm ''Chemical''
|-
| Turret ||'''Turret face''' ~70-140 mm ''Kinetic'' ~70-340 mm ''Chemical'' ||'''Turret side''' ~50 mm ''Kinetic'' ~260 mm ''Chemical''
|-
|}

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

Even with additional protection, the TAM 2IP suffers no decrease to its mobility when compared to its tech tree counterpart; thus is more mobile and agile than its main competitor, Leopard A1A1. This mobility allows the TAM 2IP to perform many different roles, be it flanking, scouting, rushing favourable positions or relocating.

{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1116|rbMinHp=637}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

As a premium vehicle, the TAM 2IP comes with all modifications unlocked.

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|FMK.4 Modelo 1L (105 mm)}}

Main armament consists of the 105 mm FMK.4 Modelo 1L cannon; a fully stabilised gun that is standard to the TAM family. Unlike TAM however, it has access to DM33, a very potent round at its BR. The TAM 2IP also comes equipped with a laser rangefinder - this gadget allows it to quickly acquire a target's distance, thus allowing long range shots immensely fast.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[FMK.4 Modelo 1L (105 mm)|105 mm FMK.4 Modelo 1L]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 50 || rowspan="2" | -7°/+18° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 32.4 || 44.8 || 54.4 || 60.2 || 64.0 || rowspan="2" | 8.71 || rowspan="2" | 7.70 || rowspan="2" | 7.10 || rowspan="2" | 6.70
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 20.2 || 23.8 || 28.9 || 32.0 || 34.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====

* '''DM12 HEATFS''' - HEAT round does not lose penetration with distance travelled. Unlike kinetic penetrators, it has one downside: given that it is a chemical round, its fuse is highly sensitive. With the emergence of composite and reactive armour, it quickly became obsolete in the anti-tank role. Requires careful aiming to properly damage newer tanks, though it can hold its own while fighting older tanks, lighter vehicles and low-flying helicopters.
* '''DM512 HESH''' - This round was always plagued by a plethora of problems: low velocity, low penetration, inconsistent mechanics and sensitive fuse make this round gimmicky at best. That being said, with the overpressure mechanic, this round can be used in CQB against light vehicles with devastating effect.
* '''DM23 APFSDS''' - This round allows the player to engage modern tanks more reliably, since it performs better against composite and reactive armour. While penetration is sufficient relative to the TAM 2IP's BR, there is simply no use for this round as its direct upgrade is available from the get go.
* '''DM33 APFSDS''' - Best round available to the TAM 2IP and third best NATO round available for 105 mm cannons. It allows the player to engage '''any''' enemies at the TAM 2IP's BR at any range reliably. Even higher BR vehicles are not safe. Player should be of note that this round can easily over penetrate light vehicles such as BMP-2 or SPAAGs, so aiming at vital components is preferred in order to create shrapnel necessary to destroy them.

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| DM12 || HEATFS || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400
|-
| DM512 || HESH || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127
|-
| DM23 || APFSDS || 337 || 335 || 330 || 322 || 314 || 306
|-
| DM33 || APFSDS || 408 || 405 || 398 || 389 || 379 || 370
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| DM12 || HEATFS || 1,174 || 10.5 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 1,270 || 65° || 72° || 77°
|-
| DM512 || HESH || 732 || 11.2 || 0.1 || 4 || 4,310 || 73° || 77° || 80°
|-
| DM23 || APFSDS || 1,455 || 4.2 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
| DM33 || APFSDS || 1,455 || 3.79 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''50''' || 41 ''(+9)'' || 30 ''(+20)'' || 21 ''(+29)'' || 1 ''(+49)'' || No
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
* Racks 3 and 4 are first stage ammunition racks (29 shells total), meaning they will deplete first but will replenish from the other racks (rack 4 then 3), starting with rack 1 and then rack 2.
* The depletion order at full capacity is: 3 - 4 - 1 - 2.

=== Machine guns ===
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{{main|FN MAG 60-40 (7.62 mm)}}

The small calibre of the FN MAG 60-40 machine guns make them largely ineffective against all armoured vehicles but the ones with an open compartment. They still can be used to ping targets as a rangefinding help or to mow down minor obstacles blocking your line of sight.

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! colspan="5" | [[FN MAG 60-40 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm FN MAG 60-40]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 2,000 (200) || 600 || N/A || N/A
|-
| Pintle || 2,000 (200) || 600 || -10°/+50° || ±120°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

While the TAM 2IP can still perform well as a regular main battle tank, using it this way would be just wasting its potential. It's a fast, potent flanker, but with the addition of a powerful DM33 round, the TAM 2IP is also a potent sniper.

'''Sniping:'''

Players should abuse the TAM 2IP's mobility to reach advantageous positions and start picking off players. DM33 highly effective (only [[T-62M-1]] providing better performance) and coupled with laser range finder, the TAM 2IP can snipe really well. While it can't fight as well in hull down positions as Leopard A1A1 due to slightly worse gun depression, it can still make great use of cover, as it negates its biggest weakness - armour. Use the TAM 2IPs fast speed to get to a good position where you won't be seen and a lot of enemies will pass by. Start picking them off with your round and relocate after a couple of shots.

'''Flanking:'''

Due to the TAM 2IPs excellent mobility, stabilised gun and powerful round, the TAM 2IP is a potent flanker. Add-on armour allows it to shrug off most autocannon fire from IFVs, as those will be common flankers at this BR. Coupled with scouting ability, a TAM 2IP employing hit and run tactics on flanks can become the enemy team's worst nightmare.

'''CQB:'''

While the TAM 2IP performs great at longer ranges, its performance is below average on CQC maps with corridors and streets that do not allow it to exploit its mobility, like those found on Advance to Rhine. Better armoured tanks in general outperform the TAM 2IP by wide margin in these environments. Players should focus on ambushing enemy tanks. The TAM 2IP's turret placement on the back of the tank and acceleration can be exploited in this scenario well - by reversing out of cover, your engine is still protected while you expose only a small part of your tank. Another viable option is to support their allies. Let them take a shot, and as soon as you see the enemy tank return fire, lunge forward and send the enemy back to the garage.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* DM33 APFSDS is more than competitive at this BR
* Same mobility as regular TAM, despite add-on armour
* Wide selection of ammunition

'''Cons:'''

* Despite add-on armour, protection remains somewhat poor
* No thermals
* Lacks smoke shell, limiting its tactical potential

== History ==

The TAM 2IP is the second improved version of the [[TAM|Tanque Argentino Mediano (TAM)]] in its modernization process after the [[TAM 2C]]. It was officially presented to the public on May 29, 2016 during the celebrations for the Day of the Argentine Army. The project is part of the collaboration program with the Israel Military Industries (IMI), the modernization project adds an additional armour kit along the chassis, the front and the sides of the turret, as well as side skirts.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=germ_thyssen_henschel_tam_2ip Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

== See also ==


;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

* [[Leopard 1 (Family)]]
* [[MARS 15]]

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

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