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Alpha Jet A

2024-04-26T15:02:08Z

U52143303: Added pros, startet usage

{{About
| about = strike fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = Alpha Jet (Family)
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|code=alpha_jet_a
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Alpha Strike"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}

''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
|1,005||996|| rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} ||30.7||31.6||40.2||37.1|| rowspan="2" |1,000
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___ || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| X || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || _ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || ___ || ___ || ___ || ~__ || ~__
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < ___ || < ___ || < ___ || -
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" |SNECMA Turbomeca Larzac 04-C6|| 2
| colspan="2" | _,___ kg || colspan="2" | ___ kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Max Gross Weight|Mass of the fully equipped aircraft with heaviest weapons load}}
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel
|-
|295 kg|| colspan="2" |Jet
| _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || ___%/WEP
! _m fuel || __m fuel || __m fuel || MGW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 1,160 kgf || ___ kgf
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || ___ kgf (_ km/h) || ___ kgf (_ km/h)
| _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs) !! EEGS
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Cross}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}


The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 60 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''

{{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
{{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}

* 1 x 27 mm Mauser BK27 cannon (150 rpg) + 2 x 310 l drop tanks
* 1 x 27 mm Mauser BK27 cannon + 6 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (3,000 lb total)
* 1 x 27 mm Mauser BK27 cannon + 6 x 500 lb Mk 82 Snakeye bombs (3,000 lb total)
* 1 x 27 mm Mauser BK27 cannon + 6 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs (1,500 kg total)
* 1 x 27 mm Mauser BK27 cannon + 6 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 200 bombs (1,500 kg total)
* 1 x 27 mm Mauser BK27 cannon + 4 x M116A2 incendiary bombs
* 1 x 27 mm Mauser BK27 cannon + 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
{{Navigation-End}}

== Usage in battles ==

''The Alpha Jet is a very good CAS plane in ground realistic battles at it's BR if not the best, since the Nerf of the G91's NORD missiles and the addition of view blocking smoke trails. In stock configuration (you need to create a custom weapon preset!), you can precisely CCIP drop 4 bombs and a few rounds of APHE can criple even tanks if you hit from the top, rear or side.''

''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Modern aircraft with SAS, Sight customization and good cockpit visibility, good for SB that are rare skills at his BR
* Very good for CAS, even in stock configuration
* 60 Countermeasures
* Very effective gun against vehicles (CCIP, default belt contains 75% APHE)

'''Cons:'''

* Does not have radar or RWR
* Does not have IR missiles for air combat or guided weapons for CAS

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

=== [[wt:en/news/8790-development-alpha-jet-a-e-alpha-strike-en|Devblog]] ===
By 1969, both Germany and France had a need for a new generation of jet trainer aircraft to replace their existing inventory of T-33 and Fouga Magister aircraft. It was decided that a collaboration between Dornier and Dassault-Breguet, with the latter first being two separate companies who later merged, had the best potential for a joint TA (Trainer Attack) aircraft over other competing manufacturers and won out the contest with the TA501.

This aircraft was to satisfy the Luftwaffe’s need to also replace their G.91 aircraft in the attack role, while the Armée de l'Air’s needs were mostly on the training gap that the Anglo-French Jaguar was initially intended to cover, but ended up being a more advanced supersonic conversion / strike aircraft. As such, two distinct versions of what would be the Alpha Jet were formed. The A - Appui / Attack and the E - Ecole / Trainer versions. These would be produced in sub assemblies in Germany, France and also Belgium.

The first prototype would take to the skies in October 1973 and after many more years of testing and trials, the Alpha Jet would enter French and German service in 1979, going on to be a success story of collaboration between nations. While it still serves to this day with France, the aircraft has also been a huge export success, with multiple nations from Belgium, Portugal and Thailand operating the type, as well as it also being popular with private company operators who use them as aggressor training aircraft in the UK, America and Canada.

== Media ==


;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|QQmQW_b9Vec|'''The Shooting Range #399''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:24 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[Alpha Jet (Family)]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/8790-development-alpha-jet-a-e-alpha-strike-en|[Devblog] Alpha Jet A & E: Alpha Strike!]]

{{AirManufacturer Dornier}}
{{Germany jet aircraft}}

SKR-7

2024-03-24T21:47:47Z

U52143303: Added one sentence on Additional armament second paragraph

{{Specs-Card
|code=ussr_skr_pr35
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a squadron rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet frigate {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update 1.89 "Imperial Navy"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}

Being a light anti-submarine frigate, the Pr. 35 Mirka-class has very little substantial armour, with just 5 mm turret armour and the 15 mm splash guard for the forward turret. While these may minimize damage caused by small calibre HE rounds and splash damage from other areas being hit, they will not protect the turrets from direct fire starting at even the size of 12.7 mm machine guns. General survivability is not much better, as the primary armament is limited to two large turrets. Losing turrets is common on the Mirka and will result in your fire being halved at the least. Furthermore, the low crew count of 98 means that a very low damage threshold can be sustained on major components before the ship is destroyed. Thankfully, the Mirka has a few aces up its sleeve to counteract these issues. To begin with, the crew are very spaced out in the ship, meaning that you will most likely survive the first few salvoes. Secondly, because the hull has such a low freeboard for the majority of the ship, most of the machinery and ammunition is protected by the sea.

Overall, the ship's survivability is below average, with its low crew and few turrets being the brunt of the issue.

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}

Mobility is a very strong suit of the ship. Starting at 57 km/h stock, the ship lags behind destroyers and most cruisers, and cannot hold a candle to the late-game MTBs that it might face. However, of the Corvette/Frigate class, the Pr. 35 has a distinct advantage, often holding a 10 km/h advantage or more over other ships of its size. These are rarely faced, however, and as such, it cannot be expected that you will ever be leading the charge in matches. The turn radius of the ship is reasonable, however, the initial snap can be very deceiving when initiating a turn. One major issue when manoeuvring the Mirka is the existence of the hull-mounted Sonar system. This dips far below the keel of the hull and can frequently be caught on rocks. Special attention must be given when manoeuvring around shoals and beaches where the Sonar might holdfast.

{{NavalMobility
|SpeedForwardStockAB = 65
|SpeedBackStockAB = 36
|SpeedForwardStockRB = 54
|SpeedBackStockRB = 30
}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armament ==
{{Specs-Fleet-Armaments}}

=== Primary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Primary}}
[[File:SKR-7 Firing Arcs.gif|thumb|x250px|Minimum firing elevations of SKR-7's 76 mm turrets]]

{{main|AK-726 (76 mm)}}

The primary armament of the Pr. 35 is where the ship shines. It is armed with a pair of AK-726 76 mm semi-automatic gun turrets. Each of these turrets contains two guns, firing a total of 90 rounds per minute. This rate of fire allows for the ship to dismantle any opponent vessel in seconds, from MTBs all the way up to destroyer leaders and light cruisers. These guns have very nice post-penetration effects on targets lacking armour and can be extremely dangerous should you sneak up on someone. This rate of fire comes at a price, however, and that price is two-fold. Firstly, the guns overheat quickly, barrages tend to be limited, and the guns must be watched for overheat. Secondly, the shells have a relatively short range and their effectiveness drops off quickly beyond 5 km when shells begin to miss and fire arcs become too great to regularly hit the target.

{{:AK-726 (76 mm)/Ammunition|76 mm HE OF-62, 76 mm HE ZS-62}}

=== Additional armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Additional}}

{{main|SET-40 (400 mm)|RBU-6000}}

The Pr. 35 "Mirka" is armed with a single quintuple 406 mm torpedo launcher armed with the SET-40 lightweight anti-submarine torpedo. The launcher has very good launch angles and five torpedoes are quite reasonable however that is where the praise ends. The torpedoes have only one operational setting, with no option for upgrades and are slow. At 54 km/h a cruiser with keen eyes can outrun these torpedoes and with 8-kilometre range, they are not going to reach much past the effective range of your turrets. Worse still the torpedoes have a meek 80 kg warhead, which will not destroy ships larger than a corvette in one hit. These torpedoes have limited use in surprising unsuspecting captains should you face something armoured such as a heavy cruiser, and can be used should the main battery fall silent, however, they are unlikely to destroy anything without multiple hits and must be used at a range where they cannot be avoided easily.

The Mirka rounds off the armament with four RBU-6000 anti-submarine rocket launchers, each carrying 12 rockets to total 48. As being rockets they have a limited effective engagement range, high arcs of fire and are very hard to aim in conjunction with primary weapons, however should a small boat decide to get too close or should you decide to engage a target at point-blank range, the barrage of 25 kg warheads smashing into the superstructure and hull of the hostile ship will almost certainly cripple it, if not outright sink it. The rockets are also useful in defending a capture point as they can be lobbed over smaller islands without exposing your ship.

=== Radar ===
The Pr. 35 has access to search and targeting radar for the [[AK-726 (76 mm)|AK-726]] 76 mm semi-automatic gun turrets, making anti-air capabilities much more advanced than most of the ships it will face at its br. It is equipped with an MR-302 Rubka air/surface search radar and an MR-105 Turel fire control radar, both available in most of the cold war soviet anti submarine frigates. The MR-302 is located on top of the main mast with two Don navigation radar right below it located at port and starboard from the mast. MR-105 is located on top of the bridge (refer to picture). Enemy pilots do not account the existence of this radars as they are uncommon in game, use surprise to your advantage. Targeting radar makes engaging enemy planes an easier task with standard HE ammo. When using HE-VT, AA engagements will be finished in couple seconds. Be aware of the distance as in engagements with planes in distances smaller than 1km, weapons tend to overshoot even when following target indicator. Engage air targets as soon as you see them in a relatively close distance (2-10 km). Proximity shells will make this task easier.
[[File:Radars Pr. 35.png|thumb|300px|Red circle: MR-302 Rubka air/surface search radar Blue circle: MR-102 Turel fire control radar]]
[[File:Radar interface Pr. 35.png|right|thumb|Mirka's radar display. Dark green: within targeting radar angle Light green: targeting radar dead zone]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="4" | MR-302 Rubka - Air/surface Search Radar
|-
! {{Annotation|Maximum Detection Range|The maximum possible range at which a target can be detected}}
! {{Annotation|Guaranteed Detection Range|The range, below which, detection of a target is practically guaranteed}}
! {{Annotation|Max Azimuth Scan Angle|How far to each side the radar can scan (widest search mode)}}
! {{Annotation|Max Elevation Scan Angle|How far up and down the radar can scan (widest search mode)}}
|-
| 120,000 || 10,000 m || ±180° || 0°/+75°
|-
! colspan="4" | MR-105 Turel - Fire Control Radar
|-
! {{Annotation|Maximum Tracking Range|The maximum range at which a target can be tracked}}
! {{Annotation|Minimum Tracking Range|The range below which targets cannot be tracked by the radar}}
! {{Annotation|Azimuth Tracking Angle|How far to each side the radar can track a target}}
! {{Annotation|Elevation Tracking Angle|How far up and down the radar can track a target}}
|-
| 10,000 m || 100 m || ±155° || 0°/+80°
|-
|}

Note:

* Targeting radar can work with search radar down or by locking on target when an aircraft is not shown on radar display.

== Usage in battles ==

The Mirka excels in close-quarter brawling with anything its shells can penetrate, especially in dispatching torpedo boats and early destroyers. This vehicle is heavily reliant on both map and BR; it will crush 3.7 and below within seconds, but against ships of 4.7 and above will struggle heavily even within its gun range. It is best not to spawn this vehicle on maps consisting of the open ocean unless you are left with no choice; due to its limited range the Mirka needs to exploit cover in order to close the gap without being targeted by guns with over twice the range. Critically, captains should avoid the wide-open ocean, as they will draw fire from targets that they cannot engage themselves. Because the guns only fire HE, captains of the Mirka should avoid engaging cruisers, as they may find penetrating and damaging the components of cruisers difficult even in close quarters.
[[File:Pr. 35 engaging an aerial target.png|right|thumb|300px|Pr. 35 engaging an air target]]
Captains of the Mirka should attempt to close the distance on any target and engage with their guns within 5 km for maximum effectiveness, reserving torpedoes and rockets for extreme close quarters or emergencies. Prior to unlocking HE-VT, Mirka lacks in anti air capabilities but thanks to targeting radar, Mirka can engage targets with relative ease. The HE-VT once unlocked should be the primary armament, due to a slightly greater explosive mass and better effectiveness against planes. The rocket launcher has no anti-submarine use in game but provides an instant knock-out when fired at a small vessel, it can also be used as rudimentary artillery to fire above obstacles due to the flying arc. They can be used to engage targets at distance but the recommended engagement distance should be at 3km, this is to compensate travelling speed. Torpedoes, while limited firing arc, are your main weapon against heavily armoured vessels like [[HMS Belfast]], two of them will disable the cruiser. Rockets can also be used against them since, thanks to the high explosive power, they can lit on fire all cruisers when fired at engine compartment. They will also cripple or destroy main weaponry that the 76 mm cannons may not penetrate.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Extremely high fire rate
* Good gun handling
* Small target to engage
* Decent manoeuvrability
* Main armament capable of engaging both surface and air targets
* Can use powerful RBU rocket launcher
* Rockets from fly faster than those equipped by Pr.159, so hitting target is easier

'''Cons:'''

* Guns overheat quickly, and accuracy suffers massively as a result
* Torpedoes are next to useless
* Poor survivability
* Two gun turrets are easily knocked out
* No passive anti-air armament
* Shells have a maximum range of around 6.5 km
* Massive air intakes on rear end of the ship causes blind angle for rear turret
* Has less rockets than Pr.159

== History ==


The Pr. 35, or Mirka-class, was a class of light anti-submarine frigates that were built in the mid 1960s for the Soviet Navy. They were the successor to the Petya-class (Pr. 159) light frigates. The role of this ship was the same as the Petya-class, Anti Submarine Warfare and patrol in shallow waters. It featured the exact same firepower but had a change in ASW armament, like the addition of a towed sonar, and the addition of two new gas turbines.18 Mirka-class frigates were built by Yantar shipyard in Kaliningrad, between 1964 and 1966. All ships were decommissioned between 1989 and 1992. One ship is known to have rammed the USS Caron, a US Spruance-class destroyer, in the Black Sea, on February 12th, 1988. Mirka was not exported to Vietnam, India and Syria unlike the Petya.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ussr_skr_pr35 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|qoZv-sA80aI|'''Squadron Vehicles''' discusses the Pr. 35 at 01:21 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''}}

== See also ==
''Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the ship;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[Wikipedia:Mirka-class_frigate|[Wikipedia] Mirka-class frigate]]

{{ShipManufacturer Yantar Baltic Shipyard}}
{{USSR frigates}}
{{Squadron ships}}

User talk:U28580205

2021-12-04T16:44:16Z

U52143303: /* Ozelot's BR should be 9.3 (RB) */ new section

{{sp-begin|Archive}}==Pz.II C==
as the person who wrote the base version of the Pz.II C bio, which you appear to have edited -
please go back through and fix some of the grammar.
also,
a 1 dollar US coin is approximately 1 3/4 inch in diameter. by changing it to "Coin", it's a bit ambiguous.
I've not bothered to change it because I really only intended to do a basic Bio, because I knew others would come along to edit it and refine it.
-AManAndHisTank.

== Wiki Update ==

Thank you for moving that section on the SU-5-1, I'll be working on updating/filling in some of the pages for USSR, USA, UK, GERMANY, and CHINA. Any suggestions you may have would be fantastic :D
: First, you should sign your posts in talk posts going forward (no worries here though). As for edits, you can always look at our ''[[Help:Creating_articles|Creating Articles]]'' guide to get started on the editing tips. --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 23:21, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

== Penetration charts ==

Started putting up pen charts for ground vehicle gun pages, started with SA 18 and KwK 30 for samples. Let me know if it works and I can put up some more --[[User:U78418905|U78418905]] ([[User talk:U78418905|talk]]) 14:44, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
: Charts are acceptable. However, please upload under a consistent naming scheme so they are easy to locate. For example: “PenetrationChart (weapon name and calibre)” -> “PenetrationChart KwK 30 (20 mm)” --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 20:00, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

: Any chance you could share what process (program used, colour scheme) you used to make them so if myself (or anyone else) feels like making one they can be kept consistent throughout the articles.--[[User:U13682523|U13682523]] ([[User talk:U13682523|talk]]) 20:06, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

:: Looks like Excel/Google Sheets with a dark theme background. Manually creating these pen charts will be an absolute pain to maintain. I'm normally the guy who's suppose to automate these chart creation but with the new armor pen calculation, all the data I have mean nothing when the armor pen are calculated serverside (as far as I know, I havent found the new pen in the data mine yet). It's very strange, some shells follow the datamine while others dont at random. I really hope Gaijin reverts the new armor pen calculation or decides to release the reference penetration used to calculate the shell pen because Im stuck waiting. --[[User:U16697154|U16697154]] ([[User talk:U16697154|talk]]) 23:10, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

:::Theoretically we should be able to calculate the pen numbers using DeMarre's formula. However I have not seen the exact formula they are using or how they calculate the drop in striking speed over a certain distance. Both of which would take some time to reverse engineer--[[User:U30585107|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107|talk]]) 00:58, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

:::: There is this quote from the Q&A article about the new pen mechanics:
:::: ''Q. Can you show us the exact formula where penetration is calculated? It is unclear where we should use the mass of a core and where the mass of a round is used.''
:::: ''A. In the future the exact characteristics of the rounds will be shown in the War Thunder Wiki directly from the game in articles specifically for guns.''
:::: So maybe the devs are going to do something similar to the new side bar, but for guns?

::: Kmsxkuse & blastedryan check your forum PM when you have time. --[[User:U13682523|U13682523]] ([[User talk:U13682523|talk]]) 11:01, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

:: Will do, thanks. Process I'm using is to copy data from the current in-game information card for the ammo, and render that using Excel 365 and Scattergram ("X Y Scatter", Style #6. Chart is then pasted into Paint3D and saved as a PNG. Agree that maintenance will be difficult without access to an online source for that data as opposed to in-game (I don't have datamine access). The trouble with independent DeMarre as a method is it's calculated relative to a reference shell for which everything is known... ie it's always comparative. So without knowing their reference shell there's not much you can do. You would also need a reasonably accurate velocity estimate at each range bracket for each shell (so at minimum, agreed-upon ballistic coefficient numbers for each shell, as well). And you'd need to know their formula, as mentioned. Their use of a value for explosive shell filling variable and a ballistic cap modifier in the online calc means its not a "vanilla" DeMarre, for sure. The formula the online calculator they are using also starts to hit a limit of applicability <30mm shell diameter or so... probably because they are using a larger calibre (>100mm if I had to guess) as their DeMarre reference shell, and once you get down to 12-25mm that's going to start giving higher-than-historical results. Lastly it'd be great if Gaijin starts to populate the Wiki guns pages, so this could just be interim. I just like having the range break point to switch between shell types available to me, and since I'm doing it already nothing wrong with sharing. --[[User:U78418905|U78418905]] ([[User talk:U78418905|talk]]) 14:44, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

== Thank you for your contribution ==

Hello, it looks like you are migrating data from the old warthunderwiki, which is good.

== A million thankyous ==

Dear Inceptor,

Hi there- I'm Aussie_Mantis, a dude whose contributions to the Spitfire IIB article you looked over and made less f***ed in the head-

Thankyou. A million bloody times you f***in mad c***. I'd get you a beer or something, but, well, this is digital, so...

yeah.

Thanks for editing the article edits I made and reformatting it- I had **NO** clue about what to do about those, so what you did is like... friccin magic... anyway, I play the british tech tree often, and I've played my share of simulator games, ranging from IL-2 Sturmovik to Strike Fighters 2- and I'll likely be making more edits soon, and I hope that my edits won't take up much of your time to look over-

Best of luck on the wiki!

Sincerely

Aussie_Mantis 18/3/2019

== Regarding atgm page ==

Initially, i wanted to make that subsection to differentiate between different ATGM characteristics for different types of vehicles. As in, how they would be used in tactical manner. Although in the end i wrote it pretty much as you describe it.

I guess, it's possible to merge first two subsections into something of "direct fire launchers", but explaining, that they were used on different ranges, mostly close range for non-dedicated vehicles, and long range on dedicated launchers. Then "indirect fire launchers" and pretty much leave section as is, and then "hybrid tanks", just so it's less confusing. As for borderline fiction, well, i even mentioned myself, that i'm not sure whether to explain if from game perspective or common sence perspective, so i guess it happened to be neither.

I'll try to fix it a bit, then you can choose either version and censor it a bit harder, if i fail again. Or delete it altogether, IDK. I'm not going to be mad about it, i know the rules. :) --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 10:51, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

== Regarding '&nbsp' I used on the T-55A page ==
Hey, Inceptor.

I found out that wikitext has the concept of no break space, which works as a usual space but doesn't separate the words that it is placed between if a new line is needed to be displayed. For example 250 mm in source code does this: 250 //mm OR 250// mm changed to //250 mm OR 250 mm// (not respectively), where double-slash is a new line.

You have edited those out, but it is good to have those to account for many different screen sizes and better readability. It's not major, but I thought I would just let you know :) [[User:U36258839|U36258839]] ([[User talk:U36258839|talk]]) 19:16, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
: Hello, thanks for the heads-up. I'll keep that perspective in mind next time. --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 15:55, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

== About ammunition names ==
Hello!

Wanted to ask, should I rename APHE shells which are just listed as APCBC or something along these lines in tables, or just note it below the table? I mean, surely player can notice the "explosive mass" being present in the table instead of N/A, but it would make more sense to name them AP(HE)CBC or something like that, at least on wiki, as here is no colour indicator to instantly differentiate them? --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 09:20, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
: Ammo designation is preferred to be the same as that stated in-game at each shell stat card. However, for visual indicators, I have been thinking about using the icons on the page [[Tank ammunition]] for that purpose. --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 15:14, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
::I like the idea of icons, helps break up the wall-of-text and aids in drawing the eye to key areas. [[User:U64962917|U64962917]] ([[User talk:U64962917|talk]]) 15:40, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
:::Well i've seen people on .ru wiki using icons in text, that may work. As for tables, should i put icon next to shell types or instead of them? --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 16:08, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

== The distinction between Radars and other sensors ==

Hi I just created a page for the tracking system used on the SIDAM 25 (the [[3JB10]]), seeing as it is not actually a radar it raises a couple of questions. For now I have just added it to the ground radar category, but is it better to make a new category called something like "sensors", with radars as a sub category of it? It seems likely we will get more systems which are not technically radars (i.e. the ADAD on the Stormer HVM coming next patch), so it might be worth doing for future-proofing. At the same time however I can see the argument for just leaving them all counted as radars for simplicity's sake. There are also two different Radar Warning Receivers (one for American and one for Russian helis) modelled in game, however at present they are modelled very basically and not worthy of separate articles. Maybe if the way Radar Warning Receivers work gets overhauled in the future (seems likely they will have to as the radar mechanic becomes more advanced and more aircraft with RWRs get added) they will be worthy of articles, in which case again a sensors category might make sense. Just wondering what your (and anyone else's) thoughts on the matter are?
: At the time, in terms of in-game practicality, I believe filing it under the "Radar" category would be most fitting of the 3JB10 at the current time being. However, should more of such systems of various types get modeled into the game, I can consider expanding these systems into its own category, with "radar" being a sub-category of that.--[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 07:22, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

: As far as i know what sidam does is practically a lidar, but game treats it as a radar when doing warnings in AB anyway. For time being i just called them "rangefinder substitute" in the https://wiki.warthunder.com/SPAA_radars , because in vulcan case it's literally rangefinder+calculator slapped onto it. Also, when vulcan turned on it's radio tracker i got "radar" alerts as well. I'm pretty sure it's fine calling them "radars" per say, as game does too for now, at least until they release something more sophisticated, or mechanically different? IDK, if new sensors won't be able to track targets in exactly same way as well, it may require splitting the sections, otherwise i don't know really.
: As for warning system, take a look at the https://wiki.warthunder.com/Talk:SPAA_radars - i was wondering if RB alerts are same as in AB, for example if sidam really is invisible to enemy or not, and does it look the same in RB anyway. As for amount of them existing, as far as patch notes claim, the german top helicopter is supposed to have warning system as well (not the import soviet heli). I have no idea if its the same as the other 2 or not, though. If nothing, you can just take that piece of article, slap the names of detectors onto these helis in the list and just add it to the actual page somewhere in the end, to make it at least look properly. When/if they get overhauled - just make separate pages for them, as it will be easy to find which is which anyway by opening the list. But pardon me, i do not know which french helis have detection system at all. (Probably at least one does, but it wasn't mentioned anywhere) --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 18:37, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

:: Well, here we go - [[Update 1.89 "Imperial Navy"|patch notes]] specifically mentions new targeting mechanic - "passive optical systems". Of course, SIDAM is omitted as an old vehicle, so it may still have radar mechanics, but if you are right and SIDAM really is invisible in RB, then it may be paired up with Stormer HVM ADAD and Bradley ADATS in new category? Of cource, assuming it really works same way. It says, they only provide directional tracking or something like that. We will have to find out if it affects the fuses on normal ammunition or not, along with other things.
::Also, with nerfs to radars, probably tables with them would now need some additional columns. First thing to be noticed is probably the "tracking error" they mentions, as they say now radar tracking accuracy depends on range away from target? They also mention "to increase probability of hit optical sight must be used", but if radar did set proximity fuse itself, won't ammo and missiles just explode themselves at wrong range anyway, even if your turret looks at the enemy? I feel like this is just too confusing and every SPAA will now have to be tested on practice... --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 11:50, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

::: I'll admit as for being invisible to RWRs i was working on the belief that if other Passive systems were modelled correctly it was too (finding people with high tier Helis and Italian tanks unlocked to test this stuff is hard).
::: As for the accuracy stuff, there are values specified however working out what they mean (other than a blind guess) will take quite a bit of trial and error testing.

:::: Well, i'm sure you already have some SPAA, but here is [[Media:Stormer_HMV_passive_system_lock_on.jpg|Stormer lock-on screenshot]], if that helps you. It is super awkward to aim, as you have to aim yourself, using enemy speed to aim. I wish i had SPAA with guns that has this system, so i could say for sure, that it's how it works and there arent aiming reticle just because of that. But at least you can tell it is a passive system by replaced "power" icon by letters, though i'm not sure if it's just not a name for scanning mode (the camera that spins around wildly) and SIDAM will have same name. --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 18:02, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

== pictures efficiency question ==

I wanted to ask, if there is a way to add a .gif to the page without making page weight too much (like, make it display only 1 slide as a preview first and download only on click, but not to break like I had them to earlier)? And is there any quota on this anyway?
Kind of restricting myself in this department, because, knowing myself, I could add way too many of these, and it will look like 90-s internet, kind of why I'm doing .jpg for everything.
Making YouTube shorts is also kind of awkward for something that could be put in 10 seconds of display, but static gif that I made before is not a very good solution for some cases.
Also, animated files category is a red link for some reason. Is that alright? I could actually go and tag all of the screenshots, when I got time, but so far I only saw 4 categories - ingame, historical, garage and animated . There were also those icons which seem to belong to some WW alpha-test period (used one in my own profile), should these be marked somehow? --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 12:21, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
:This page (https://wiki.warthunder.com/F-86A-5) has a .gif which is static until you click on it and it loads in a pop-up where it functions like a .gif (<nowiki>[[File:F86-MiG15_guncamera_Korea.gif|thumb|right|A view from the gun camera on an F-86 Sabre capturing the downing of a MiG-15 over the skies of Korea (''Click image to view .gif footage'')]]</nowiki>) Not sure if this is what you are looking for or not. [[User:U64962917|U64962917]] ([[User talk:U64962917|talk]]) 12:55, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
:: Checked it with browser console, it would seem that intentionally breaking .gif by making preview image disproportional to original .gif really works, at least on older browsers (kind of what I was trying to avoid on other pages and had to pinpoint gif size for downscale so it still works).
:: The other questions still stand, though - how many should I use per page (IE, reasonable amounts), should I limit myself to file amount (they aren't that light when they are detailed, so would be nice to know how much space we got for all this anyway) and should I do something about uncategorized pictures? --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 13:12, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
::: One animated file per page would be a reasonable amount to allow their existence without them spamming up a page. There is no need for you to handle uncategorized images at this time. --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 13:15, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
:::: Understood, so one file per page or so.
:::: Well, i do understand that it's not that necessary, it's just that with the mass uploads i kind of increase amount of work someone else has to do (probably, yourself), if i don't drop the category tag there. I'll leave the 4 category tags i know near to upload link on my own page, just add more there if there are any, will see how it goes from there. If i'll have free time i'll just open the global image pool and check them to spend time. --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 13:26, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

== premium color ==

Do you know what the color code is for premium vehicles? <div style="background-color:#ffd800">I think it's around this</div>--[[User:U30585107|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107|talk]]) 13:07, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
: I do not know, but I think it is a little darker than that. You mean from the button tabs that are shown in the tech tree, correct? --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 15:28, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
::Yeah I ran the image in the background [[:File:Item_prem.png]] through a color code finder and got this <div style="background-color:#3C341B">a</div> which is unusable with normal black text. So I wanted to see if there is a recommended color.--[[User:U30585107|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107|talk]]) 15:54, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
:::<div style="background-color:#FADF4D">What about using this instead? It's the main colour of the [[:File:Currency_GoldenEaglesWallpaper.jpg|golden eagle logo]]. [[User:U38088265|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265|talk]]) 17:15, 8 June 2019 (UTC) </div>

== Screenshots with visible bugs ==

Hello. I have some screenshots which only make sense together, but on last one I have "dead alive" hull break bug (when 120 mm kinetic hullbreak fails, you look dead, even on UI, but are not really). Should I try to make better example screenshots, or anything goes? --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 10:23, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
:I would say try your best for the image you think will more accurately represent what message you are trying to convey. If you are dissatisfied with how the image turned out and is being shown, you should redo it. --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 06:19, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

==Miiro_Nyholm's tables==
where are my tables in i-go ko?
who deleted them?
: Hello, [https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=I-Go_Ko&diff=30824&oldid=30819&diffmode=source you deleted them yourself] in one of the page's edit. --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 05:13, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

== penetration tables ==

As you might be aware i add 60 degree pen to autocannon tanks tables, due to how it is necessary to show their weaknesses at angled combat and recent 30 mm changes mostly affect just angled performance. Due to a high amount of stealth patches recently, it might be necessary to do this for other shell sizes and types as well, at least to have a reference material. Do you mind if i do this to every tank page i come across, or should i do this in some other way? --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 07:24, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
: I feel like there needs to be another way to do this. Adding the additional 60 degree is helpful, but it looks quite cramped in the large table of numbers. I'm also not in favor of making another table just for 60 degree either as that'll just clutter the pages more. I'll look into the formatting and see if there are better ways to display the information. Until then, can you please hold off on doing it to every page? --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 07:28, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
:: Sure, that's why i'm asking. Only added this to 30 mm's and a few 35 mm's where it seemed drastically different from others so far. Just drop me a message, when you have a better solution. --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 07:32, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

== Regarding the optics instructions ==

The way you shortened the instruction up should work, at least until ATGM tank are introduced. (because they are the ones which specifically can't fire without optics for some reason) Most of those have NVD anyway, so i guess it works? Considering i'm going to fill in the tables anyway, the "try to fill the table" part or "refer to gallery" part can also be omitted, i guess. Is the instruction on NVD-fitted tanks alright in your vision? --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 15:30, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
: Do you have an example of a NVD section description? I will have to take a look at another time as I will be preoccupied for a while soon. Also, just want to standardise (that I didn't do on the ST-A1 page), we should try to have the optic subsection in the main armaments come below the ammunition/ammo-racks subsection rather than before them. ..."Alright in your vision", hah, that's funny. --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 15:42, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
::As for NVD pages, i tried it out on a few vehicles i tried out to "trial and error" them to find out if any problems would arise. For example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/BMP-2#Optics_and_night_vision This is how i think it would look like when it's just barely filled out, https://wiki.warthunder.com/Type_75_SPH#Optics_and_night_vision is filled out "complicated tank" page and https://wiki.warthunder.com/Warrior#Optics_and_night_vision is how "complicated atgm" page is filled out (as in, what details might arise from looking at optics functionality > what can be pointed out to look for). Also by default i listed optics into/past ATGM weapon slot if it exist because of how it affects that weapon specifically (could just give it same level as weapon i guess?) and before machine guns, i guess my brain just went offline when i did it to ST-A1. As for standartization of placement, i'm not sure, for some tanks it seems more important than for others. The ST-A1 page to begin with is in a bit of a mess because of how i had to write text for it in other time and does not take well to inserts in between. I guess pushing optics past gun and ammunition on all pages works. The SPAA pages have "radar" section as well, but for them optics might be useless as well (with [[Stormer HVM|stormer]] and [[OTOMATIC|otomatic]] as exception i guess, the first one might as well have them straight after the gun). ''unintentional puns best puns''. --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 16:06, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
::::Anyway, preparations are all done due to [https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=User:U13682523&oldid=34725#List_of_all_tank_sight_magnifications Flame2512] and [https://wiki.warthunder.com/Night_Vision_Devices#List_of_vehicles_with_Night_Vision_Devices DnaGonite] help. With outside sources, it is now possible to fill out most of the data. If it is fine, i'll just put optics on same row as weapons themselves (the === row), past the weapon and their ammo but before MG and radars (because optics are more or less correlated with the main weapons) and go fix ammo tables and optics on all normal tanks (considering the last ST-A1 page edit as default). Meanwhile, you can decide on the NVD ones - just set me the bar by editing one of the mentioned pages and i'll fix the rest. --[[User:U42773747|U42773747]] ([[User talk:U42773747|talk]]) 07:50, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

== 109 K-4 Horsepower Chart - Talk - F4Knight - Question ==

Hello. I'm F4Knight and I decided to share some of my work (specifically talking about the horsepower charts) and I was wondering how I would verify it. For the F-82E, I included screenshots of the localhost of the planes stats (Horsepower and such) on a Google Doc. Is that enough to verify the chart or is there more needed? Just wanted to make sure before doing more horsepower charts. Thanks - F4Knight
: Hello there. Firstly, I think the hp charts you're trying to make are a neat addition. But as you may have heard from the other user that contested your charts initially, there's a lot of factors and such that affects aircraft horsepower than altitude. I'm trying to find out on my end what's the perfect setting to test these stats, but for right now can you say on what map did you test the current F-82 charts? I would also recommend some changes on the chart:
# Adding the game's version number so that users are aware when the chart was last updated should the engine performance ever change in the future.
# Adding dots on the hp line where each 1000 meter mark is. It's rather hard to eyeball it at a quick glance.
## To reduce the text clutter at the bottom, you can title the axis "Altitude in 1000 meters" and then just label each vertical axis mark "1, 2, etc."
# See if its possible to remove the empty space below the 1000 hp mark.
# See if the chart's standard can be converted to 100% rather than WEP, considering some planes don't have WEP. Or have the two data coexist.
:Lastly, when you edit in talk pages, you can sign your edits with the <code><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></code> code.--[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 17:46, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Aight, I will take note of your advice. I did the F-82 chart in the test flight so whatever map that is. I know horsepower will change depending on your speed so I tried to get to the highest speed I could reach on 100% Throttle then went on WEP for a few seconds, got a screenshot then climbed and repeated it.
Ok quick update, I have updated the chart to how it looks right [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iRgQagM7xx5D1-P0qF8tPWwgL_wuJYASCzkBPzWCbUc/edit?usp=sharing here] I'll do the 100% Throttle data later but as of now does that look fine to you?--[[User:U48664895|F4K]] ([[User talk:U48664895|talk]]) 23:58, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

== You got rid off my talk page thing ==

You got rid of it saying it had "profanity". "Crap" isn't a swear word.[[User:U56907291|U56907291]] ([[User talk:U56907291|talk]]) 22:49, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Hey, just wanted to send a big Thank You for the edits you make improving grammar and an overall readability of the articles. Excellent, and an extremely helpful work. As someone who's far from being an English native speaker, I can only say that I'm really grateful of your contributions to improving the edits I, and others, have made. :) [[User:U12017485|U12017485]] ([[User talk:U12017485|talk]]) 10:25, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

== Award Request Images ==

Hello, I don't need the pictures I uploaded anymore. You can totally delete them. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 13:28, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

== Frigates ==

Hi, can you create the icon for frigates, like the one for [[:File:Destroyers icon.png|Destroyers]]? They are a separate class of ships above the sub-chasers, so I think it would be good to have them in the [[Fleet]] page, given that they've been added with the latest patch. [[User:U12017485|U12017485]] ([[User talk:U12017485|talk]]) 08:29, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
: Hello, we currently don't have a icon for frigates, nor am I the creator of most of the naval icons. However; I added Frigates to the "large vessel" category so that it is displayed. Apologies for the late response. --[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 22:01, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
{{sp-end}}

== Ozelot's BR should be 9.3 (RB) ==

Hello,

I do not know how to edit the specs card. Maybe you could help me out by editing the specs or telling me how to do it? The Ozelot's BR for realistic battles has changed from 9.0 to 9.3 recently (along the Wiesel 1A2),

Talk:Ozelot

2021-12-04T09:53:54Z

U52143303: Ozelot is 9.3 nowadays, not 9.0

I do not know how to edit a specs card but the Ozelot is now ranked 9.3 for realistic battles.

Ozelot

2021-12-04T09:49:43Z

U52143303: /* Usage in battles */ Added hints on how to engage helicopters and planes

{{Specs-Card
|code=germ_wiesel_2_adwc
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German SPAA {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Ground Breaking"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

The armour is extremely thin and only serves to protect the vehicle from shell splinters and rifle-calibre machine guns. Anything with a calibre of 12.7 mm and larger will destroy this vehicle.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 8 mm (9°) ''Lower plate'' 8 mm (30-68°) ''Lower glacis'' || 8 mm 8 mm (34°) ''Belly junction'' || 8 mm (37°) || 6 mm
|-
| Superstructure|| 8 mm (59-73°) ''Upper glacis'' || 8 mm (30-34°) || 6 mm (7°) ''Crew compartment'' 8 mm ''Ammo rack'' || 8 mm (17-31°) ''Engine compartment'' 6 mm ''Crew compartment''
|-
| Missile launcher || 6 mm || 6 mm || 6 mm || 6 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick, while torsion bars are 8 mm thick.

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=156|rbMinHp=97}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|Fliegerfaust 2 Stinger}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Fliegerfaust 2 Stinger]] missile || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity (Belt) !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 8 (4) || rowspan="2" | -10°/+70° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 88.1 || 121.9 || 148.0 || 163.7 || 174.1 || rowspan="2" | 19.50 || rowspan="2" | 17.25 || rowspan="2" | 15.90 || rowspan="2" | 15.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 59.5 || 70.0 || 85.0 || 94.0 || 100.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Range (m)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| FIM-92E || SAM || 1,000 || 5,000 || 10.1 || 1 || 0.1 || 540 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| FIM-92K || SAM || 1,000 || 5,000 || 10.1 || 1 || 0.1 || 540 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''2''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The Ozelot requires discipline to use efficiently. Care must be taken not to fire on enemies flying too close, otherwise the missile will not be able to turn quickly enough to hit the target. The Ozelot should be used in an open environment, as obstacles can interfere with the radar guidance of the missiles, or even get hit by the missiles themselves. Helicopters are this vehicle's main opponent.

=== Engaging helicopters ===
Activate the missile seeker and point the blinking green circle at the helicopter. When it turns red you can fire the missile that will guide itself to the target, i.e. you can engage a different target while the missile is still in the air. For very low flying helicopters you need to aim above the target as much as possible (50% of the circle, more will prevent a lock) in order to prevent the missile from hitting the ground. It may be beneficial if you choose an elevated position like a pile of rubble or a hill.

Note that it is harder to lock helicopters on winter maps and that one may struggle to lock an MI24 at 2.5km which may lead some players to preferring using a Gepard on these maps.

=== Engaging planes ===
Engaging planes is more challenging due to the missile's low turning rate and energy retention. It is recommended to lock the target using your optical sensor or direct lock in the gunner's optics, but this is not required. As a rule of thumb for fast flying planes, aim as much as possible in front of where theplane is going to be and a little bit higher. Engaging a fast flying plane that is not flying towards you or away from you will usually cause the missile to miss. Experienced pilots will try to spot the white fume trail of the missile launch and will turn very hard which is very likely to outturn your missile. Since maneuvering planes will loose energy, you can drain the energy/speed of the plane to a level where you can hit it with your 3rd or 4th missile. If you wait with the launch of the 4th missile until the plane is at 1.5km the plane cannot engange you after evading the last missile. However, if you fire your last missile in the magazine too early, they will use their guns to wipe you of f the map. Unless you can replenish your missiles on a cap point, it may be more efficient to not fire at planes circling your position.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Very fast and agile vehicle
* Small profile and easily hidden
* Missiles require no guidance after firing
* Missiles do not require the vehicle to be stopped to fire.
* Gen 3 thermals for scouting and sighting targets

'''Cons:'''

* No armour
* Air-to-air missiles can be unreliable
* Can not defend itself against ground vehicles

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[Wiesel (Family)]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7376-development-wiesel-armored-vehicles-mk20-tow-2-adwc-en|[Devblog] Wiesel armored vehicles: MK20/TOW/2 ADWC]]

{{Germany anti-aircraft vehicles}}

User:U52143303

2021-12-04T09:24:29Z

U52143303: Created page with "Hates night battles and single cap maps."

Hates night battles and single cap maps.

FlaRakRad

2021-12-04T09:16:31Z

U52143303: /* Usage in battles */ Added hint on radar range

{{Specs-Card
|code=germ_flarakrad
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German SPAA {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "New Power"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

[[File:FlaRakRad internal armor.png|thumb|Internal armour of the FlaRakRad (5 mm)]]
As the FlaRakRad is the largest ground vehicle in game, and an SPAA, it is not hard for one to guess how the protection situation is. As there is no armour to speak of, the best bet for protecting this vehicle is not to be seen. Try hiding behind large hills, buildings near spawn, and other large obstacles. The non retractable search radar makes it hard to find spots tall enough to hide the FlaRakRad's immense size. However, due to the size of this vehicle, it can take ATGMs from helis occasionally, and can sometimes even eat APFSDS. However, any shot is very likely to cripple you, as the transmission is huge and easily hit.

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull ||5 mm||5 mm||5 mm||5 mm
|-
| Turret ||15 mm||15 mm||15 mm||10 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:'''

* The chassis is 30 mm thick.
* The windows in the cab have no armour.
* The tracking radar is 15 mm thick.
* There are 5 mm plates inside the rear compartment (see image).

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=511|rbMinHp=318}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|Roland}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Roland|Roland SAM]] (x2) || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity (Belt) !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 10 (2) || rowspan="2" | -10°/+80° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 74.9 || 103.6 || 125.8 || 139.1 || 148.0 || rowspan="2" | 5.00 || rowspan="2" | 5.00 || rowspan="2" | 5.00 || rowspan="2" | 5.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 50.6 || 59.5 || 72.3 || 79.9 || 85.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Roland 3 || SAM || 54 || 54 || 54 || 54 || 54 || 54
|-
| VT1 || SAM || 59 || 59 || 59 || 59 || 59 || 59
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Range (m)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| Roland 3 || SAM || 575 || 8,000 || 77 || 0 || 0.1 || 6,810 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| VT1 || SAM || 1,250 || 12,000 || 73 || 0 || 0 || 7,860 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''5''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

It is recommended to change the radar range from 10 to 16 KM, find a concealed spot near spawn and memorize where the helicopters' airfield is. Helicopters are easy prey for the FlaRakRad; but be careful to take them out quickly or you'll find you have a 9M127 Vikhr headed right at you. Be careful to not radar lock helicopters, as they usually have RWR and will detect you if you lock them. Try instead to hand guide the missiles. This isn't as hard as it seems, as helicopters mostly hover and without the RWR won't know where the missile is coming from. Once the VT1 missile is unlocked, this allows the FlaRakRad to be able to finally engage aircraft with any hint of reliability. Still, one must exercise discipline when choosing when to engage aircraft, as the VT1 can still be dodged. As for the VT1 against helicopters, it just allows the FlaRakRad to kill enemy helicopters quicker, giving them less time to react. All in all, the FlaRakRad is a competent SPAA once one unlocks the missile and has the flexibility to engage aircraft as well as helis. Keep in mind that after firing the second missile, the FlaRakRad will not begin reloading until the second missile hits a target or reaches its max range and self-destructs. This means if you miss the second missile, you are vulnerable to air attack while waiting to reload. Take care not to be hit, and you'll have a good time.

=== Countering Vikhr spam ===
Experienced KA-5x players will often fire multiple Vikr missiles at you hoping that the first 2 of them will neutralize your missiles. Or they will have loaded rockets that will explode after a fixed distance and will try to shoot your VT1 missiles. You can make their life hard if you circle the target, i.e. you move the mouse around the target in small circles causing your missile to change direction really fast and making it nearly impossible to counter if done right. Remember that you do not need to hit the target directly.

=== Countering advanced planes ===
Experienced pilots will try to side climb outside your range and will try to attack from the top where your radar will not show the incoming plane. In order to prevent not only this, set the range of the radar to 16 KM instead of 10 KM and you will see most side climbing planes.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Good speed and mobility; easy to move around on larger maps
* High speed missile with long range
* 1st generation gunner thermals allow the FlaRakRad to track targets without the use of radar easier

'''Cons:'''

* The single biggest ground vehicle in the game, longer and taller than a Maus - finding proper concealment is nigh impossible
* Every single gun in the game, MGs included, poses a threat
* No defence against any ground vehicles
* Lack of guns means it cannot defend itself from close aircraft
* No survivability from attacks from the ground or air

== History ==

=== [[wt:en/news/6902-development-flarakrad-protective-sphere-en|Devblog]] ===
The FlaRakRad self-propelled anti-aircraft missile system with the Roland 3 surface-to-air missile system became the most advanced modification of the Roland, Franco-German anti-aircraft missile. While the army version of the FlaRakPz 1 self-propelled air defense system was equipped with a tracked chassis, the air defense services and the German naval forces settled on wheeled chassis for AA systems for airfield protection. At the end of the 90's, a MAN 6x6 truck was chosen as a chassis for the Roland 2 complex, but soon a unified command vehicle on the chassis of the MAN 15t mil gl KAT I A1 (8×8) truck was adopted, which served as the basis for further development of the Roland family.

One of the latest modernization programs for the complex for the needs of the German army assumed the possibility of launching not only Roland 2 and Roland 3 missiles, but also promising long-range VT1 missiles, but the program was not completed and by 2003 Germany refused to further modernize the Roland complex in favor of more modern systems.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=germany&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=spaa&vehicle=germ_flarakrad Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Images
<gallery mode="packed" caption="FlaRakRad Devblog Images" heights="200">
File:FlaRakRad WTWallpaper 001.jpg|
File:FlaRakRad WTWallpaper 002.jpg|
File:FlaRakRad WTWallpaper 003.jpg|
File:FlaRakRad WTWallpaper 004.jpg|
File:FlaRakRad WTWallpaper 005.jpg|
File:FlaRakRad WTWallpaper 006.jpg|
File:FlaRakRad WTWallpaper 007.jpg|
</gallery>

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6902-development-flarakrad-protective-sphere-en|[Devblog] FlaRakRad: Protective Sphere]]

{{Germany anti-aircraft vehicles}}
[[Category:Wheeled ground vehicles]]

FlaRakRad

2021-12-04T09:09:35Z

U52143303: /* Usage in battles */ Added some hints against common enemy tactics.

{{Specs-Card
|code=germ_flarakrad
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German SPAA {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "New Power"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

[[File:FlaRakRad internal armor.png|thumb|Internal armour of the FlaRakRad (5 mm)]]
As the FlaRakRad is the largest ground vehicle in game, and an SPAA, it is not hard for one to guess how the protection situation is. As there is no armour to speak of, the best bet for protecting this vehicle is not to be seen. Try hiding behind large hills, buildings near spawn, and other large obstacles. The non retractable search radar makes it hard to find spots tall enough to hide the FlaRakRad's immense size. However, due to the size of this vehicle, it can take ATGMs from helis occasionally, and can sometimes even eat APFSDS. However, any shot is very likely to cripple you, as the transmission is huge and easily hit.

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull ||5 mm||5 mm||5 mm||5 mm
|-
| Turret ||15 mm||15 mm||15 mm||10 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:'''

* The chassis is 30 mm thick.
* The windows in the cab have no armour.
* The tracking radar is 15 mm thick.
* There are 5 mm plates inside the rear compartment (see image).

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=511|rbMinHp=318}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|Roland}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Roland|Roland SAM]] (x2) || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity (Belt) !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 10 (2) || rowspan="2" | -10°/+80° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 74.9 || 103.6 || 125.8 || 139.1 || 148.0 || rowspan="2" | 5.00 || rowspan="2" | 5.00 || rowspan="2" | 5.00 || rowspan="2" | 5.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 50.6 || 59.5 || 72.3 || 79.9 || 85.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| Roland 3 || SAM || 54 || 54 || 54 || 54 || 54 || 54
|-
| VT1 || SAM || 59 || 59 || 59 || 59 || 59 || 59
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Range (m)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| Roland 3 || SAM || 575 || 8,000 || 77 || 0 || 0.1 || 6,810 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| VT1 || SAM || 1,250 || 12,000 || 73 || 0 || 0 || 7,860 || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''5''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

It is recommended to find a concealed spot near spawn and memorize where the helicopters' airfield is. Helicopters are easy prey for the FlaRakRad; but be careful to take them out quickly or you'll find you have a 9M127 Vikhr headed right at you. Be careful to not radar lock helicopters, as they usually have RWR and will detect you if you lock them. Try instead to hand guide the missiles. This isn't as hard as it seems, as helicopters mostly hover and without the RWR won't know where the missile is coming from. Once the VT1 missile is unlocked, this allows the FlaRakRad to be able to finally engage aircraft with any hint of reliability. Still, one must exercise discipline when choosing when to engage aircraft, as the VT1 can still be dodged. As for the VT1 against helicopters, it just allows the FlaRakRad to kill enemy helicopters quicker, giving them less time to react. All in all, the FlaRakRad is a competent SPAA once one unlocks the missile and has the flexibility to engage aircraft as well as helis. Keep in mind that after firing the second missile, the FlaRakRad will not begin reloading until the second missile hits a target or reaches its max range and self-destructs. This means if you miss the second missile, you are vulnerable to air attack while waiting to reload. Take care not to be hit, and you'll have a good time.

=== Countering Vikhr spam ===
Experienced KA-5x players will often fire multiple Vikr missiles at you hoping that the first 2 of them will neutralize your missiles. Or they will have loaded rockets that will explode after a fixed distance and will try to shoot your VT1 missiles. You can make their life hard if you circle the target, i.e. you move the mouse around the target in small circles causing your missile to change direction really fast and making it nearly impossible to counter if done right. Remember that you do not need to hit the target directly.

=== Countering advanced planes ===
Experienced pilots will try to side climb outside your range and will try to attack from the top where your radar will not show the incoming plane. In order to prevent not only this, set the range of the radar to 16 KM instead of 10 KM and you will see most side climbing planes.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Good speed and mobility; easy to move around on larger maps
* High speed missile with long range
* 1st generation gunner thermals allow the FlaRakRad to track targets without the use of radar easier

'''Cons:'''

* The single biggest ground vehicle in the game, longer and taller than a Maus - finding proper concealment is nigh impossible
* Every single gun in the game, MGs included, poses a threat
* No defence against any ground vehicles
* Lack of guns means it cannot defend itself from close aircraft
* No survivability from attacks from the ground or air

== History ==

=== [[wt:en/news/6902-development-flarakrad-protective-sphere-en|Devblog]] ===
The FlaRakRad self-propelled anti-aircraft missile system with the Roland 3 surface-to-air missile system became the most advanced modification of the Roland, Franco-German anti-aircraft missile. While the army version of the FlaRakPz 1 self-propelled air defense system was equipped with a tracked chassis, the air defense services and the German naval forces settled on wheeled chassis for AA systems for airfield protection. At the end of the 90's, a MAN 6x6 truck was chosen as a chassis for the Roland 2 complex, but soon a unified command vehicle on the chassis of the MAN 15t mil gl KAT I A1 (8×8) truck was adopted, which served as the basis for further development of the Roland family.

One of the latest modernization programs for the complex for the needs of the German army assumed the possibility of launching not only Roland 2 and Roland 3 missiles, but also promising long-range VT1 missiles, but the program was not completed and by 2003 Germany refused to further modernize the Roland complex in favor of more modern systems.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=germany&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=spaa&vehicle=germ_flarakrad Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Images
<gallery mode="packed" caption="FlaRakRad Devblog Images" heights="200">
File:FlaRakRad WTWallpaper 001.jpg|
File:FlaRakRad WTWallpaper 002.jpg|
File:FlaRakRad WTWallpaper 003.jpg|
File:FlaRakRad WTWallpaper 004.jpg|
File:FlaRakRad WTWallpaper 005.jpg|
File:FlaRakRad WTWallpaper 006.jpg|
File:FlaRakRad WTWallpaper 007.jpg|
</gallery>

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6902-development-flarakrad-protective-sphere-en|[Devblog] FlaRakRad: Protective Sphere]]

{{Germany anti-aircraft vehicles}}
[[Category:Wheeled ground vehicles]]

BO 105 PAH-1

2020-06-13T22:27:37Z

U52143303: Added aiming and evasion tips to the Usage in battles

{{Specs-Card|code=bo_105pah1}}
{{About
| about = German utility helicopter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other uses
| link = BO 105 (Family)
}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left|The '''{{PAGENAME}}''' in the garage]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Germany utility helicopter {{Battle-rating|1}}. This helicopter was introduced in [[Update_1.83_"Masters_of_the_Sea"|Update 1.83 "Masters of the Sea"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight Performance ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Characteristics
|-
! colspan="4" | ''Stock''
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at ?,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (meters)
|-
! AB
! RB
|-
| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
! colspan="4" | ''Upgraded''
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at ?,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (meters)
|-
! AB
! RB
|-
| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
''Examine the survivability of the helicopter. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, how many engines the vehicle has. Describe the armour, if there is any, also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

== Armaments ==
=== Offensive armament ===
''Describe the offensive armament of the helicopter, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in battle, also what ammunition belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.''

=== Suspended armament ===
''Describe the helicopter's suspended armament: additional cannons under the winglets, any type of bombs, and rockets. Since any helicopter is essentially only a platform for suspended weaponry, this section is extremely important and deserves your special attention. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''

== Usage in battles ==
The BO 105 family can be used at any time of the battle. You can try to quick cap in an inexpensive scout vehicle and gain enough spawn points for the loadout with 6 ATGM and then pick off unsuspecting tanks.

'''Positioning:''' Stay at maximum range (3.5 to 3.9 km) to be able to react to incoming fire. This means you need to cancel the forward speed. Do this by pullig back sharply on the cyclic (S key) until your nose points upwards, then activate the hover mode. Use the rudder to orient the nose towards the enemy. This step is important and most pilots fail to stay at range and get shot down by small caliber, main gun or SPAAG fire. Check the battle rating and stay low if you face SAM, otherwise you can safely gain altitude to prevent targets from driving behind cover.

'''Target selection:''' From the moment you take off from the helipad, scan the enemy spawn points first, as SPAAG respawns from killed enemies are almost guaranteed to appear. Your primary targets should be anti air vehicles, followed by lightly armoured vehicles, as they present almost guaranteed one shot kills. MBT can easily be engaged from any angle if you can aim the missile precisely. Consider aiming at closest vehicles first, as this reduces missile flight time and increases your hits per minute.

If you get shot by ground vehicles, you should switch the target by going to the third person perspective and trying to locate the threat. Then point the helicopter nose to the target in order to be able to fire the missile

'''Advertisment''': Dear Gaijin, please accept me for the Wiki Share Program. I have applied twice :( and I could update many articles.

'''Aiming:''' Aiming is easy in hover mode, however, the BO has a very small launch window, i.e. the nose needs to be pointed quite directly towards the target. If you are high, you might need to quickly lower the nose (short nick axis input) to be able to fire the missile. If you loose the lock when the nose is brought back up by the instructor, you should descend or go back to pilots view and orient the nose towards the enemy. Unless a tank presents you his front, you should aim for the turret. Frontally, aim for the drivers hatch.

'''Evasion:'''

* Avoiding incoming fire: Key to survival is staying at range in order to increase the available reaction time. If you get closer than 2km, turn around and you will dramatically increase survivability. To avoid incoming fire you need to be able to see it, i.e. you should not zoom fully into the target from the very first second from the launch. Since the missile travels 12-16 seconds, you can safely stay zoomed out for 10 seconds and you will be able to see incoming SPAAG fire. Enemy SPAAG will aim for the projected point where you will be after the flight time of the bullet so your goal is to change your flight path constantly but not predictable. You could fly a roll by keeping A or D pressed or you could fly a box shaped pattern. The missile will still track during such a maneuver and only shortly before the impact you need to be in an upright position for a good aim.
* Avoiding enemy planes: Enemy planes will usually detect you visually. You can be seen from far away when the dark helicopter is before a bright blue sky, i.e. if you are above an enemy plane. I.e. you should constantly keep an eye on the enemy plane spawn and listen for the sound of propeller or jet engines. If you detect an enemy plane, you should go low (below the tree line, into a valley) and you should try to hover. A helicopter hovering below the treeline in a forrest is nearly invisible. On a map without trees you can try to take cover behind buildings taking advantage of the impressive maneuverabilty of the BO 105, but you need to be very close to the building and very close to the ground. The hangar on the helipad is very well suited for this, but skilled pilots will notice that and try to attack directly from above, in which case you should try to fly directly under the plane so that he either needs to pull up or crash.

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''

'''Pros:'''

* Extremely good maneuverability. It is able to do rolls and evade planes, incoming missiles and long range APDSFS shots.
* ATGM can be effectively used against tanks

*

'''Cons:'''

* Long ATGM flight time.
* Small guidance window for missile launches and tracking.
* Cannot really defend itself against enemy helicopters and/or enemy planes

*

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the helicopter in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''

== Media ==


;Images
<div><ul>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:BO 105 all WTWallpaper 001.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:BO 105 PAH-1 WTWallpaper 001.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
</ul></div>

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5824-development-bo-105-attack-helicopters-en [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> BO 105 Attack Helicopters]

{{AirManufacturer MBB}}
{{Germany helicopters}}

BO 105 PAH-1

2020-06-04T15:37:28Z

U52143303: /* Usage in battles */

{{Specs-Card|code=bo_105pah1}}
{{About
| about = German utility helicopter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other uses
| link = BO 105 (Family)
}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left|The '''{{PAGENAME}}''' in the garage]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Germany utility helicopter {{Battle-rating|1}}. This helicopter was introduced in [[Update_1.83_"Masters_of_the_Sea"|Update 1.83 "Masters of the Sea"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight Performance ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Characteristics
|-
! colspan="4" | ''Stock''
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at ?,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (meters)
|-
! AB
! RB
|-
| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
! colspan="4" | ''Upgraded''
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at ?,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (meters)
|-
! AB
! RB
|-
| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
''Examine the survivability of the helicopter. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, how many engines the vehicle has. Describe the armour, if there is any, also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

== Armaments ==
=== Offensive armament ===
''Describe the offensive armament of the helicopter, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in battle, also what ammunition belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.''

=== Suspended armament ===
''Describe the helicopter's suspended armament: additional cannons under the winglets, any type of bombs, and rockets. Since any helicopter is essentially only a platform for suspended weaponry, this section is extremely important and deserves your special attention. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''

== Usage in battles ==
The BO 105 family can be used at any time of the battle. You can try to quick cap in an inexpensive scout vehicle and gain enough spawn points for the loadout with 6 ATGM and then pick off unsuspecting tanks.

'''Step 1 (Positioning):''' Stay at maximum range (3.5 to 3.9 km) to be able to react to incoming fire. This means you need to cancel the forward speed. Do this by pullig back sharply on the cyclic (S key) until your nose points upwards, then activate the hover mode. Use the rudder to orient the nose towards the enemy. This step is important and most pilots fail to stay at range and get shot down by small caliber, main gun or SPAAG fire. Check the battle rating and stay low if you face SAM, otherwise you can safely gain altitude to prevent targets from driving behind cover.

'''Step 2 (Target selection):''' From the moment you take off from the helipad, scan the enemy spawn points first, as SPAAG respawns from killed enemies are almost guaranteed to appear. Your primary targets should be anti air vehicles, followed by lightly armoured vehicles, as they present almost guaranteed one shot kills. MBT can easily be engaged from any angle if you can aim the missile precisely. Consider aiming at closest vehicles first, as this reduces missile flight time and increases your hits per minute. TODO#TargetSwitcihing

'''Advertisment''': Dear Gaijin, please accept me for the Wiki Share Program. I have applied twice :( and I could update many articles.

Step 3 (Aiming): TODO

Step 4 Evasion: TODO#IncomingFire; TODO#IncomingPlane

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''

'''Pros:'''

* Extremely good maneuverability. It is able to do rolls and evade planes, incoming missiles and long range APDSFS shots.
* ATGM can be effectively used against tanks

*

'''Cons:'''

* Long ATGM flight time.
* Small guidance window for missile launches and tracking.
* Cannot really defend itself against enemy helicopters and/or enemy planes

*

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the helicopter in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''

== Media ==


;Images
<div><ul>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:BO 105 all WTWallpaper 001.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:BO 105 PAH-1 WTWallpaper 001.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
</ul></div>

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5824-development-bo-105-attack-helicopters-en [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> BO 105 Attack Helicopters]

{{AirManufacturer MBB}}
{{Germany helicopters}}

BO 105 PAH-1

2020-06-04T15:36:04Z

U52143303: Started Usage in Battles as well as Pros/Cons, I would like to be accepted to the Wiki Share Program.

{{Specs-Card|code=bo_105pah1}}
{{About
| about = German utility helicopter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other uses
| link = BO 105 (Family)
}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left|The '''{{PAGENAME}}''' in the garage]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Germany utility helicopter {{Battle-rating|1}}. This helicopter was introduced in [[Update_1.83_"Masters_of_the_Sea"|Update 1.83 "Masters of the Sea"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight Performance ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Characteristics
|-
! colspan="4" | ''Stock''
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at ?,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (meters)
|-
! AB
! RB
|-
| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
! colspan="4" | ''Upgraded''
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at ?,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (meters)
|-
! AB
! RB
|-
| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
''Examine the survivability of the helicopter. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, how many engines the vehicle has. Describe the armour, if there is any, also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

== Armaments ==
=== Offensive armament ===
''Describe the offensive armament of the helicopter, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in battle, also what ammunition belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.''

=== Suspended armament ===
''Describe the helicopter's suspended armament: additional cannons under the winglets, any type of bombs, and rockets. Since any helicopter is essentially only a platform for suspended weaponry, this section is extremely important and deserves your special attention. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''

== Usage in battles ==
The BO 105 family can be used at any time of the battle. You can try to quick cap in an inexpensive scout vehicle and gain enough spawn points for the loadout with 6 ATGM and then pick off unsuspecting tanks.

'''Step 1 (Positioning):''' Stay at maximum range (3.5 to 4.9 km) to be able to react to incoming fire. This means you need to cancel the forward speed. Do this by pullig back sharply on the cyclic (S key) until your nose points upwards, then activate the hover mode. Use the rudder to orient the nose towards the enemy. This step is important and most pilots fail to stay at range and get shot down by small caliber, main gun or SPAAG fire. Check the battle rating and stay low if you face SAM, otherwise you can safely gain altitude to prevent targets from driving behind cover.

'''Step 2 (Target selection):''' From the moment you take off from the helipad, scan the enemy spawn points first, as SPAAG respawns from killed enemies are almost guaranteed to appear. Your primary targets should be anti air vehicles, followed by lightly armoured vehicles, as they present almost guaranteed one shot kills. MBT can easily be engaged from any angle if you can aim the missile precisely. Consider aiming at closest vehicles first, as this reduces missile flight time and increases your hits per minute. TODO#TargetSwitcihing

'''Advertisment''': Dear Gaijin, please accept me for the Wiki Share Program. I have applied twice :( and I could update many articles.

Step 3 (Aiming): TODO

Step 4 Evasion: TODO#IncomingFire; TODO#IncomingPlane

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''

'''Pros:'''

* Extremely good maneuverability. It is able to do rolls and evade planes, incoming missiles and long range APDSFS shots.
* ATGM can be effectively used against tanks

*

'''Cons:'''

* Long ATGM flight time.
* Small guidance window for missile launches and tracking.
* Cannot really defend itself against enemy helicopters and/or enemy planes

*

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the helicopter in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''

== Media ==


;Images
<div><ul>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:BO 105 all WTWallpaper 001.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
<li style="display: inline-block;"> [[File:BO 105 PAH-1 WTWallpaper 001.jpg|thumb|none|250px|]] </li>
</ul></div>

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5824-development-bo-105-attack-helicopters-en [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> BO 105 Attack Helicopters]

{{AirManufacturer MBB}}
{{Germany helicopters}}

VT1-2

2019-10-17T06:40:28Z

U52143303: Added pro item

{{Specs-Card
|code=germ_vt_1_2
|market=VT1-2 (Germany)
}}

== Description ==


The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a gift rank {{Specs|rank}} German tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]] as a reward for the Operation Shipyard event.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forward and backwards.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
! Add-on armour weight (tons)
! Max speed (km/h)
|-
| rowspan="2" | 43.5 || rowspan="2" | N/A
| 76 (AB)
|-
| 70 (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
! Mode !! Stock !! Upgraded
|-
| ''Arcade'' || ??? || ???
|-
| ''Realistic/Simulator'' || ??? || 2,200
|-
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
! Mode !! Stock !! Upgraded
|-
| ''Arcade'' || ??.?? || ??.??
|-
| ''Realistic/Simulator'' || ??.?? || 50.57
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|Rheinmetall L44 (120 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Rheinmetall L44 (120 mm)|120 mm Rheinmetall L44]]
|-
! colspan="3" | Capacity
! Vertical guidance
! Horizontal guidance
! Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 18 || -10°/+15° || N/A || Two-plane
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! Mode
! Stock
! Upgraded
! Prior + Full crew
! Prior + Expert qualif.
! Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || ??.?? || ??.?? || ??.?? || ??.?? || ??.??
|-
| ''Realistic'' || ??.?? || ??.?? || ??.?? || ??.?? || 60.00
|-
! colspan="5" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Part
! Stock
! Prior + Full crew
! Prior + Expert qualif.
! Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
|Left barrel Right barrel || 5.00 7.80 || 5.00 __.__ || 5.00 __.__ || 5.00 __.__
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| DM12 || HEATFS || 650 || 650 || 650 || 650 || 650 || 650
|-
| DM13 || APFSDS || 393 || 390 || 384 || 376 || 367 || 359
|-
| DM23 || APFSDS || 410 || 408 || 401 || 393 || 384 || 376
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! rowspan="2" | Normalisation at 30° from horizontal
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| DM12 || HEATFS || 1,140 || 13.5 || N/A || 0.1 || 1640 || +0.0° || 65° || 72° || 75°
|-
| DM13 || APFSDS || 1,650 || 4.436 || N/A || N/A || N/A || ?.?° || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
| DM23 || APFSDS || 1,640 || 4.3 || N/A || N/A || N/A || ?.?° || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''30''' || ?? ''(+??)'' || ?? ''(+??)'' || ?? ''(+??)'' || ?? ''(+??)'' || ?? ''(+??)'' || ?? ''(+??)'' || ??
|-
|}

==== [[Optics]] ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="3" | {{PAGENAME}} Optics
|-
!
! Default magnification
! Maximum magnification
|-
! Main Gun optics
| X8.0 || X16.1
|-
! Comparable optics
| colspan="2" | ???
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==


The VT 1-2 excels at when it comes to acceleration, high speed and low profile. This provides the opportunity to move into sniping positions early in the game or even capture midpoints. The tank is easily destroyed and should be played as if it was a glass cannon, i.e. you stay behind cover/concealment and scan the area using binoculars and/or the third-person view and then only moving into firing position when the coast is clear.

Since the left barrel reloads at a constant 5-second rate and the right barrel in around 7 seconds, you can fire 3 shots within 5 seconds (left, right, left again) in the first engagement which lets you easily correct any error in distance estimation and/or finish off immobilized tanks. Using a custom sight from live.warthunder.com like https://live.warthunder.com/post/861278/en/ is recommended in order to be able to quickly fire the second barrel without having to switch between armaments.

Be aware of guided missiles from helicopters on open maps, though. If you see helicopters, you might need to change plans and hide. Furthermore, if you have sniped 2+ enemies, the revenge plane is a common sight and you are an easy target for them unless you change position and move into a forest or populated area.

=== Modules ===
Recommended research path:

Parts > FPE > Adjustment of Fire (absolutely necessary for sniping) > Brake System (in order to be able to react and aim) > Filters | Elevation Mechanism > DM23 | Laser rangefinder
{| class="wikitable"
! Tier
! colspan="2" |Mobility
! Protection
! colspan="3" |Firepower
|-
| I
| Tracks
|
| Parts
| DM13
|
|
|-
| II
| Suspension
| Brake System
| FPE
| Adjustment of Fire
|
|
|-
| III
| Filters
|
| Crew Replenishment
| Elevation Mechanism
|
|
|-
| IV
| Transmission
| Engine
|
| DM23
| Laser rangefinder
| NVD
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Incredibly good mobility on and off road, courtesy of its extremely powerful engine
* Twin 120mm cannons are unrivalled at its rank:
** HEAT-FS and APFSDS can penetrate almost any tank it encounters
** Ability to shoot 3 times within 5 seconds
* One cannon is equipped with an autoloader
* Very quick hull traverse
* Due to the gun layout, the {{PAGENAME}} can position itself to fire one cannon while the other is behind cover

'''Cons:'''

* Thin, mild steel armour cannot resist anything resembling anti-tank fire
* 3 crew members are grouped together in the front of the tank, poor survivability
* Cannons cannot traverse horizontally, hull aiming mechanic must be used for precise fire
* Very difficult to fire on the move
* No machine guns for fending off aircraft, highly vulnerable to air attack
* No access to smoke grenades/shells/systems
* Due to hull aiming, the hull tends to roll back or forward depending on terrain
* When loading ammo on a capture point, the left ammo rack is fully loaded first, then the right ammo rack.

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==
''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==


* ''User Created Gunsight Options:'' https://live.warthunder.com/post/861278/en/

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''encyclopedia page on the tank;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Germany tank destroyers}}

VT1-2

2019-10-14T04:29:36Z

U52143303: Added con, added usage, added research path recommendation, added see also.

{{Specs-Card|code=germ_vt_1_2}}

== Description ==


The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a gift rank {{Specs|rank}} German tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]] as a reward for the Operation Shipyard event.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forward and backwards.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
! Add-on armour weight (tons)
! Max speed (km/h)
|-
| rowspan="2" | 43.5 || rowspan="2" | N/A
| 76 (AB)
|-
| 70 (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
! Mode !! Stock !! Upgraded
|-
| ''Arcade'' || ??? || ???
|-
| ''Realistic/Simulator'' || ??? || 2,200
|-
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
! Mode !! Stock !! Upgraded
|-
| ''Arcade'' || ??.?? || ??.??
|-
| ''Realistic/Simulator'' || ??.?? || 50.57
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|Rheinmetall L44 (120 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Rheinmetall L44 (120 mm)|120 mm Rheinmetall L44]]
|-
! colspan="3" | Capacity
! Vertical guidance
! Horizontal guidance
! Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 18 || -10°/+15° || N/A || Two-plane
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! Mode
! Stock
! Upgraded
! Prior + Full crew
! Prior + Expert qualif.
! Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || ??.?? || ??.?? || ??.?? || ??.?? || ??.??
|-
| ''Realistic'' || ??.?? || ??.?? || ??.?? || ??.?? || 60.00
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Stock
! Prior + Full crew
! Prior + Expert qualif.
! Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
|5s left barrel,
7s right barrel,

6s ammo replenishing
| ??.?? || ??.?? || 5.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| DM12 || HEATFS || 650 || 650 || 650 || 650 || 650 || 650
|-
| DM13 || APFSDS || 393 || 390 || 384 || 376 || 367 || 359
|-
| DM23 || APFSDS || 410 || 408 || 401 || 393 || 384 || 376
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! rowspan="2" | Normalisation at 30° from horizontal
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| DM12 || HEATFS || 1,140 || 13.5 || N/A || 0.1 || 1640 || +0.0° || 65° || 72° || 75°
|-
| DM13 || APFSDS || 1,650 || 4.436 || N/A || N/A || N/A || ?.?° || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
| DM23 || APFSDS || 1,640 || 4.3 || N/A || N/A || N/A || ?.?° || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''30''' || ?? ''(+??)'' || ?? ''(+??)'' || ?? ''(+??)'' || ?? ''(+??)'' || ?? ''(+??)'' || ?? ''(+??)'' || ??
|-
|}

==== [[Optics]] ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="3" | {{PAGENAME}} Optics
|-
!
! Default magnification
! Maximum magnification
|-
! Main Gun optics
| X8.0 || X16.1
|-
! Comparable optics
| colspan="2" | ???
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==
The VT 1-2 excels at it's acceleration, high speed and low profile and you are able to move into sniping positions early in the game or even capture mid points. The tank is easily killed and should be played as a glass cannon, i.e. you stay behind cover/concealment and scan the area using binoculars and/or third person, then move into firing position.

Since the left barrel reloads at constant 5s and the right barrel in around 7s, you can fire 3 shots in 5 seconds (left, right, left) in the first engagement which lets you easily correct any error in distance estimation and/or finish off immobilized tanks. Using a custom sight from live.warthunder.com like https://live.warthunder.com/post/861278/en/ is recommended in order to be able to quickly fire the second barrel without having to switch between armaments.

Be aware of guided missiles from helicopters on open maps, though. If you see helicopters, you might need to change plans and hide. Furthermore, if you have sniped 2+ enemies, the revenge plane is a common sight and you are an easy target for them unless you change position and move into a forrest or populated area.

=== Modules ===
Recommended research path:

Parts > FPE > Adjustment of Fire (absolutely necessary for sniping) > Brake System (in order to be able to react and aim) > Filters | Elevation Mechanism > DM23 | Laser rangefinder
{| class="wikitable"
! Tier
! colspan="2" |Mobility
! Protection
! colspan="3" |Firepower
|-
| I
| Tracks
|
| Parts
| DM13
|
|
|-
| II
| Suspension
| Brake System
| FPE
| Adjustment of Fire
|
|
|-
| III
| Filters
|
| Crew Replenishment
| Elevation Mechanism
|
|
|-
| IV
| Transmission
| Engine
|
| DM23
| Laser rangefinder
| NVD
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Incredibly good mobility on and off road, courtesy of its extremely powerful engine
* Twin 120mm cannons are unrivaled at its rank, HEAT-FS and APFSDS can penetrate almost any tank it encounters
* One cannon is equipped with an autoloader
* Very quick hull traverse
* Due to the gun layout, the {{PAGENAME}} can position itself to fire one cannon while the other is behind cover

'''Cons:'''

* Thin, mild steel armor cannot resist anything resembling anti-tank fire
* 3 crew members are grouped together in the front of the tank, poor survivability
* Cannons cannot traverse horizontally, hull aiming mechanic must be used for precise fire
* Very difficult to fire on the move
* No machine guns for fending off aircraft, highly vulnerable to air attack
* No access to smoke grenades/shells/systems
* Due to hull aiming, the hull tends to roll back or forward depending on terrain
* When loading ammo on a capture point, the left ammo rack is fully loaded first, then the right ammo rack.

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==
''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''Gun sight:'' https://live.warthunder.com/post/861278/en/
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''encyclopedia page on the tank;''
* ''other literature.''

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Talk:Migrate Installation

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Migrate Installation

2019-02-14T04:34:09Z

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This section will teach you how to migrate from the standalone client to the steam client and vice versa. You need to know the installation for both the source installation and the target installation. Do not delete your present version before installing the target.

# Export Controls
## Click the settings icon in the top left corner of your screen.
### Click the Export controls button in the bottom left of the settings window. It looks like an old school disk and is to the right of the Controls Setup Wizard.
### Choose a folder to save the config to.
# Copy configuration
## Copy the config.blk from the source folder to the target
# Copy Sights
## Copy the folder UserSights from source to target
# Copy Skins
## Copy the folder UserSkins from source to target
# Import controls
## Start the target War Thunder client. It should already use your screen/graphics settings.
## Click the settings icon in the top left corner of your screen.
## Click the import from file button . It looks like a folder and is right of the Controls Setup Wizard.
## Locate your previously exported file and import controls