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120S

2024-04-16T16:28:02Z

U50431603: /* Usage in battles */

{{About
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| other
| usage-1 = other versions
| link-1 = M60 (Family)
| usage-2 = other uses
| link-2 = M60 (Disambiguation)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=us_m60_120s
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Alpha Strike"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

A [[M60]] hull mated with an Abrams turret. It inherits the usual M60 turret ring (flat 114 mm) weak spot with an even larger 70 mm flat neck. The hull is otherwise the same but unlike the previous M60's, players will notice additional side skirts on hull sides which might help against stray HEAT-FS shells. Turret on the other hand, comes from a [[M1A1]] model thus at 10.0 battle rating, is simply invincible to the most shells. Sadly, putting the heavily armored Abrams turret onto the M60 hull increases the weight of 120S up to 56.2 Tons. All while still retaining the same 750 hp engine which translates to 120S being slower than almost all the MBT's at it's respective battle rating. And unlike the Israeli upgraded M60's, the 120S doesn't have any ESS.

'''Armour type:''' 


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 108 mm (66°) ''Front Glacis''
137 mm (54°) ''Lower Glacis''
| 36 - 70 + 65**mm ''Front half''
36 - 70 + 6.5 mm ''Rear half''
| 25 mm (1°) ''Engine Grille''
40 mm (31°) ''Top''

28 mm (61°) ''Bottom''
| 36 mm ''Front''
20 mm ''Engine deck''
|-
| Turret || 38*+101* mm (21-30°)
38*+18* mm (30-36°) ''Gun mantlet''

25.4 mm (74-82°) ''Turret underside''
| 19*+101* mm (30°) ''Crew compartment''
6*+13* (30°) ''Ammo rack bustle''
| 12.7 mm (43-48°)
25.4 mm (80-83°) ''Turret underside''
| 38.1 mm ''Front''
25.4 mm ''Rear''

12.7 mm ''Panels''
|-
| Cupola || colspan="4" |25.4 mm (conical)
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

Being one of the slowest MBT's of battle rating 10.0, 120S users are forced to play under the pressure of getting flanked by faster vehicles such as Leopard 2's. Slow speed of 120S means either the players have to spawn early to get to their desired positions or simply spawn late to protect objectives or spawn point. As a result of the poor stock engine, one can skip getting the top shell and LSR (as the M829 at the rank I is simply enough in terms of penetration and accuracy) in favour of mobility upgrades.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|M256 (120 mm)}}

The 120S has the same 120mm M256 smoothbore gun used by the later Abrams tanks, and has the same ammunition options as the M1A1 consisting of M830 HEATFS as its stock shell, M829 APFSDS as a Tier I modification, and M829A1 as a Tier IV modification. In terms of battle rating, this is the lowest where these rounds are found with M829A1 undoubtedly being better than any other contemporary APFSDS round at this rank. It allows the 120S to comfortably tackle almost any target it comes across even from some distance away.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M256 (120 mm)|120 mm M256]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 42 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 38.1 || 52.7 || 64.0 || 70.8 || 75.3 || rowspan="2" | 6.50 || rowspan="2" | 5.75 || rowspan="2" | 5.30 || rowspan="2" | 5.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 23.8 || 28.0 || 34.0 || 37.6 || 40.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{{:M256 (120 mm)/Ammunition|M830, M829, M829A1}}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''42''' || 39 ''(+3)'' || 35 ''(+7)'' || 18 ''(+24)'' || 1 ''(+41)'' || No
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|4}}

{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|M240 (7.62 mm)}}

''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Commander's cupola || 1,000 (200) || 575 || -9°/+65° || -160°/+180°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M240 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M240]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Loader's cupola || 1,400 (200) || 941 || -9°/+65° || -77°/+135°
|-
| Coaxial || 10,000 (200) || 941 || - || -
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==
[[File:Behind concretes.png|thumb|Being a tall MBT is not always a bad thing. With the superior turret protection, 120S can hold long lines as long as there is something to cover it's weak hull.]]
The 120S must use it's strongpoints to alleviate it's handicaps''.'' The MBT inherits the excellent 2nd generation thermal view and the superb 120mm M256 cannon. The fast turret slew rate and the quick reload is the cherry on top. Let's also not forget the blowout panels (up to 34 shells can be taken without worrying). Compared to the M1 Abrams experience, gameplay will be slow but much more satisfying due to the M829A1 shell, which will not care about the opposition. Players do not have to worry about dealing with annoying Leopard 2s or the reckless USSR MBTs. Common tactics include performing hull down or covering hull behind solid cover. If possible, while reloading, simply turn the turret slightly to side to decrease chances of getting the breech damaged. Due to the fast reload, one can bait enemies by shooting. Care must be taken to have enough room between You and enemy to have the next shell ready before they peek. An even rare tactic is to use the poor armour of the 120S to bait shots, such as turning at the last second to the opposite direction of where enemy is aiming (most likely hull). At the end of turn, the hull must look sideways to the enemy, thus when done right, only the engine will be damaged.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Very quick reload, up to 5 seconds when Aced
* Very good firepower, can comfortably tackle whatever it faces even at higher BRs
* Superb gun handling
* Effective hull down capability due to the M1A1 turret
* 2nd generation thermals for the gunner
* Unlike the most NATO MBTs, 120S can look behind due to high placement of the turret.

'''Cons:'''

* Poor mobility, compounded by poor reverse speed
* Poor hull armour made up of just RHA
* Very obvious turret neck that sticks out from the hull
* Lack of a commander sight hampers the combat effectiveness in simulator mode.

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

=== [[wt:en/news/8795-development-m60-120s-the-frankentank-en|Devblog]] ===
Late in 1999, General Dynamics Land Systems were looking to put a tank together that was suitable to export to countries as a cheaper alternative to the current main battle tanks. To attract buyers, it was decided to pair an M1A1 turret onto an M60A1 hull — a hull which was already in use with many countries around the world. This combination could also allow for countries to convert their existing M60 hulls into the M60 120S standard if required. In August 2001 the first prototype was completed and subsequently shown at the IDEF Exhibition in Turkey in October 2001. Having been proposed to countries such as Turkey and Egypt, there was no interest and the project was abandoned with only 1 prototype being built.

== Media ==


;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|BeS9PrzGeBc|'''The Shooting Range #398''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:25 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''[[M60 (Family)]] - The family/history page for the M60''
** [[Magach 7C]] - Israeli end of the line upgraded M60

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/8795-development-m60-120s-the-frankentank-en|[Devblog] M60 120S: The Frankentank]]

{{USA medium tanks}}

120S

2024-04-16T16:21:41Z

U50431603: Added info under various titles. History of the vehicle, ammunition and modification is still incomplete.

{{About
| about = main battle tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| other
| usage-1 = other versions
| link-1 = M60 (Family)
| usage-2 = other uses
| link-2 = M60 (Disambiguation)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=us_m60_120s
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Alpha Strike"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

A [[M60]] hull mated with an Abrams turret. It inherits the usual M60 turret ring (flat 114 mm) weak spot with an even larger 70 mm flat neck. The hull is otherwise the same but unlike the previous M60's, players will notice additional side skirts on hull sides which might help against stray HEAT-FS shells. Turret on the other hand, comes from a [[M1A1]] model thus at 10.0 battle rating, is simply invincible to the most shells. Sadly, putting the heavily armored Abrams turret onto the M60 hull increases the weight of 120S up to 56.2 Tons. All while still retaining the same 750 hp engine which translates to 120S being slower than almost all the MBT's at it's respective battle rating. And unlike the Israeli upgraded M60's, the 120S doesn't have any ESS.

'''Armour type:''' 


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 108 mm (66°) ''Front Glacis''
137 mm (54°) ''Lower Glacis''
| 36 - 70 + 65**mm ''Front half''
36 - 70 + 6.5 mm ''Rear half''
| 25 mm (1°) ''Engine Grille''
40 mm (31°) ''Top''

28 mm (61°) ''Bottom''
| 36 mm ''Front''
20 mm ''Engine deck''
|-
| Turret || 38*+101* mm (21-30°)
38*+18* mm (30-36°) ''Gun mantlet''

25.4 mm (74-82°) ''Turret underside''
| 19*+101* mm (30°) ''Crew compartment''
6*+13* (30°) ''Ammo rack bustle''
| 12.7 mm (43-48°)
25.4 mm (80-83°) ''Turret underside''
| 38.1 mm ''Front''
25.4 mm ''Rear''

12.7 mm ''Panels''
|-
| Cupola || colspan="4" |25.4 mm (conical)
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

Being one of the slowest MBT's of battle rating 10.0, 120S users are forced to play under the pressure of getting flanked by faster vehicles such as Leopard 2's. Slow speed of 120S means either the players have to spawn early to get to their desired positions or simply spawn late to protect objectives or spawn point. As a result of the poor stock engine, one can skip getting the top shell and LSR (as the M829 at the rank I is simply enough in terms of penetration and accuracy) in favour of mobility upgrades.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|M256 (120 mm)}}

The 120S has the same 120mm M256 smoothbore gun used by the later Abrams tanks, and has the same ammunition options as the M1A1 consisting of M830 HEATFS as its stock shell, M829 APFSDS as a Tier I modification, and M829A1 as a Tier IV modification. In terms of battle rating, this is the lowest where these rounds are found with M829A1 undoubtedly being better than any other contemporary APFSDS round at this rank. It allows the 120S to comfortably tackle almost any target it comes across even from some distance away.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M256 (120 mm)|120 mm M256]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 42 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 38.1 || 52.7 || 64.0 || 70.8 || 75.3 || rowspan="2" | 6.50 || rowspan="2" | 5.75 || rowspan="2" | 5.30 || rowspan="2" | 5.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 23.8 || 28.0 || 34.0 || 37.6 || 40.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{{:M256 (120 mm)/Ammunition|M830, M829, M829A1}}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''42''' || 39 ''(+3)'' || 35 ''(+7)'' || 18 ''(+24)'' || 1 ''(+41)'' || No
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|4}}

{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|M240 (7.62 mm)}}

''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Commander's cupola || 1,000 (200) || 575 || -9°/+65° || -160°/+180°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M240 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M240]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Loader's cupola || 1,400 (200) || 941 || -9°/+65° || -77°/+135°
|-
| Coaxial || 10,000 (200) || 941 || - || -
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==
[[File:Behind concretes.png|thumb|Being a tall MBT is not always a bad thing. With the superior turret protection, 120S can hold long lines as long as there is something to cover it's weak hull.]]
''The 120S must use it's strongpoints to alleviate it's handicaps. The MBT inherits the excellent 2nd gen thermal view'' and the superb 120mm M256 cannon. The fast turret slew rate and the quick reload is the cherry on top. Let's also not forget the blowout panels (up to 34 shells can be taken without worrying). Compared to the M1 Abrams experience, gameplay will be slow but much more satisfying due to the M829A1 shell, which will not care about any opposition. Players will not have to worry about dealing with annoying Leopard 2s or the reckless USSR MBTs. Common tactics include performing hull down or covering hull behind solid cover. If possible, while reloading, simply turn turret slightly to side to decrease chances of getting the breech damaged. Due to the fast reload, one can bait enemies by shooting but care must be taken to have enough room between enemy to have the next shell ready before enemy peeks. An even rare tactic is to use the poor armour of the 120S to bait shots such as turning at the last second to the opposite direction of where enemy is aiming (at you). The turn must make your tank look sideways to the enemy thus, when done right, only the engine will be damaged with minimal casualities.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Very quick reload, up to 5 seconds when Aced
* Very good firepower, can comfortably tackle whatever it faces even at higher BRs
* Superb gun handling
* Effective hull down capability due to the M1A1 turret
* 2nd generation thermals for the gunner
* Unlike the most NATO MBTs, 120S can look behind due to high placement of the turret.

'''Cons:'''

* Poor mobility, compounded by poor reverse speed
* Poor hull armour made up of just RHA
* Very obvious turret neck that sticks out from the hull
* Lack of a commander sight hampers the combat effectiveness in simulator mode.

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

=== [[wt:en/news/8795-development-m60-120s-the-frankentank-en|Devblog]] ===
Late in 1999, General Dynamics Land Systems were looking to put a tank together that was suitable to export to countries as a cheaper alternative to the current main battle tanks. To attract buyers, it was decided to pair an M1A1 turret onto an M60A1 hull — a hull which was already in use with many countries around the world. This combination could also allow for countries to convert their existing M60 hulls into the M60 120S standard if required. In August 2001 the first prototype was completed and subsequently shown at the IDEF Exhibition in Turkey in October 2001. Having been proposed to countries such as Turkey and Egypt, there was no interest and the project was abandoned with only 1 prototype being built.

== Media ==


;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|BeS9PrzGeBc|'''The Shooting Range #398''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:25 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''[[M60 (Family)]] - The family/history page for the M60''
** [[Magach 7C]] - Israeli end of the line upgraded M60

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/8795-development-m60-120s-the-frankentank-en|[Devblog] M60 120S: The Frankentank]]

{{USA medium tanks}}

File:Behind concretes.png

2024-04-16T15:54:13Z

U50431603:

Being tall actually benefits the 120S. To be able to peek over things, other smaller MBTs can only dream, is an added bonus.