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Izmail

2024-09-24T14:41:54Z

U48795062: /* Pros and cons */

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet battlecruiser {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Dance of Dragons"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}

''Talk about the vehicle's armour. Note the most well-defended and most vulnerable zones, e.g. the ammo magazine. Evaluate the composition of components and assemblies responsible for movement and manoeuvrability. Evaluate the survivability of the primary and secondary armaments separately. Don't forget to mention the size of the crew, which plays an important role in fleet mechanics. Save tips on preserving survivability for the "Usage in battles" section. If necessary, use a graphical template to show the most well-protected or most vulnerable points in the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}

''Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.''

{{NavalMobility}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armament ==
{{Specs-Fleet-Armaments}}
=== Primary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Primary}}

{{main|14-inch/52 pattern 1913 (356 mm)}}
''Provide information about the characteristics of the primary armament. Evaluate their efficacy in battle based on their reload speed, ballistics and the capacity of their shells. Add a link to the main article about the weapon: <code><nowiki>{{main|Weapon name (calibre)}}</nowiki></code>. Broadly describe the ammunition available for the primary armament, and provide recommendations on how to use it and which ammunition to choose.''

{{:14-inch/52 pattern 1913 (356 mm)/Ammunition|14-inch HE patt.1913, 14-inch AP patt.1911}}

=== Secondary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Secondary}}

{{main|130 mm/55 pattern 1913 (130 mm)}}
''Some ships are fitted with weapons of various calibres. Secondary armaments are defined as weapons chosen with the control <code>Select secondary weapon</code>. Evaluate the secondary armaments and give advice on how to use them. Describe the ammunition available for the secondary armament. Provide recommendations on how to use them and which ammunition to choose. Remember that any anti-air armament, even heavy calibre weapons, belong in the next section. If there is no secondary armament, remove this section.''

{{:130 mm/55 pattern 1913 (130 mm)/Ammunition|130 mm HE patt.1911, 130 mm AP patt.1911}}

=== Anti-aircraft armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-AA}}

{{main|75 mm/50 Canet patt.1892 (75 mm)|63 mm/38 pattern 1916 (63 mm)}}
''An important part of the ship's armament responsible for air defence. Anti-aircraft armament is defined by the weapon chosen with the control <code>Select anti-aircraft weapons</code>. Talk about the ship's anti-air cannons and machine guns, the number of guns and their positions, their effective range, and about their overall effectiveness – including against surface targets. If there are no anti-aircraft armaments, remove this section.''

=== Additional armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Additional}}

{{main|Pattern 1912 (450 mm)}}
''Describe the available additional armaments of the ship: depth charges, mines, torpedoes. Talk about their positions, available ammunition and launch features such as dead zones of torpedoes. If there is no additional armament, remove this section.''

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* Numerous and effective secondaries
* Extremely potent HE
* Powerful and versatile main armament
* Well armored turrets

*

'''Cons:'''

* Lack of usable anti-air
* Highly vulnerable crew compartments
* Prone to ammunition explosions
* Turning performance is subpar
* Ineffective deck and belt armor

*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

''Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the ship;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{ShipManufacturer Baltic Shipyard}}
{{USSR battlecruisers}}

HMS Glorious

2023-11-03T13:51:50Z

U48795062: /* Survivability and armour */

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== Description ==

One of the trio of the Courageous-class "large light cruisers", the {{PAGENAME}}'s design perfectly encapsulates First Sea Lord John ('Jackie') Fisher's obsession with superior speed and firepower. Built with his 'Baltic Project' in mind, the ship was designed with high speed and large guns to devastate enemy cruisers while having a shallow draught to allow operations supporting coastal landings in the Baltics. Despite being a capital ship, it was designed with paper thin armour, partly to allow for the high speed and partly to get around a restriction imposed by the Government on the construction of new capital ships, with First Sea Lord Fisher presenting the ships as simply large light cruisers. In fact, the ships were so lightly built that HMS Courageous took not insignificant structural damage in rough seas during sea trials, buckling the hull and deck in several places, shearing off rivets and allowing water to pour in.

Introduced in [[Update "Fire and Ice"]], the unconventional design of HMS Glorious in her 1919 configuration makes her very distinctive from the other "pocket battleships" at her BR, such as [[Admiral Graf Spee|Graf Spee]] and the [[IJN Ikoma|Ikoma]]. The ship is a true "glass cannon", featuring high offensive firepower in the form of four 381 mm cannons, numerous 102 mm guns, a huge stockpile of torpedoes, along with great mobility to boot, however still lacks adequate armour to shield from even cruiser-calibre guns.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}

The armour of the HMS Glorious is absolutely terrible, even when compared to some light cruisers. The front belt armour which protects the forward ammunition storage is 50.8mm, with the rest of the belt armour having a thickness of 76.2mm. The ammunition storage has an extra 25mm plate surrounding them, with the engine rooms having a 38mm plate instead. The main deck armour consists of two plates of 25mm. The citadel roof armour has 44mm protecting the ammunition, with 19mm on the engine room. The front and rear of the citadel has 76.2mm of armour. The bridge is one of the most well protected parts of the ship, with 254mm of cemented armour in all directions, with a respectable 76mm on the roof. The turrets have 330mm of cemented armour on the front, with the sides and rear protected by 228mm and 279mm respectively. The roof armour has a thickness of 108mm with the barbettes being protected by 178-152mm

The HMS Glorious has a relatively small crew of 842, which combined with terrible armour makes most enemies at and below the main BR a significant threat.

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}

''Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.''

{{NavalMobility}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armament ==
{{Specs-Fleet-Armaments}}
=== Primary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Primary}}

{{main|15 inch/42 BL Mark I (381 mm)}}

''Provide information about the characteristics of the primary armament. Evaluate their efficacy in battle based on their reload speed, ballistics and the capacity of their shells. Add a link to the main article about the weapon: <code><nowiki>{{main|Weapon name (calibre)}}</nowiki></code>. Broadly describe the ammunition available for the primary armament, and provide recommendations on how to use it and which ammunition to choose.''

{{:15 inch/42 BL Mark I (381 mm)/Ammunition|15 inch 4crh CPC, 15 inch 4crh Mark XIIa APC}}

=== Secondary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Secondary}}

{{main|BL Mark IX (102 mm)}}

''Some ships are fitted with weapons of various calibres. Secondary armaments are defined as weapons chosen with the control <code>Select secondary weapon</code>. Evaluate the secondary armaments and give advice on how to use them. Describe the ammunition available for the secondary armament. Provide recommendations on how to use them and which ammunition to choose. Remember that any anti-air armament, even heavy calibre weapons, belong in the next section. If there is no secondary armament, remove this section.''

{{:BL Mark IX (102 mm)/Ammunition|4 inch HE, 4 inch SAP}}

=== Anti-aircraft armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-AA}}

{{main|76 mm/45 QF 3in 20cwt HA Mark I (76 mm)}}

''An important part of the ship's armament responsible for air defence. Anti-aircraft armament is defined by the weapon chosen with the control <code>Select anti-aircraft weapons</code>. Talk about the ship's anti-air cannons and machine guns, the number of guns and their positions, their effective range, and about their overall effectiveness – including against surface targets. If there are no anti-aircraft armaments, remove this section.''

=== Additional armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Additional}}

{{main|Mk.IV (533 mm)}}

''Describe the available additional armaments of the ship: depth charges, mines, torpedoes. Talk about their positions, available ammunition and launch features such as dead zones of torpedoes. If there is no additional armament, remove this section.''

== Usage in battles ==

HMS Glorious is a classic "glass cannon", featuring extremely powerful 381 mm cannons, backed up by a suite of decent secondary armaments and torpedoes, and great mobility. However, it also has extremely thin armour, which can sometimes prove insufficient against even cruiser-calibre cannons.

Against other battleships and battlecruisers, the armour is wholly inadequate, and the ship really does become equivalent to a large light cruiser. Its mobility can be used to play around hard cover and attempt to dodge incoming shells; however, if caught in the open, Glorious is unlikely to survive for long.

On the other hand, if in a match against only cruisers, the unusual armaments can be used to great effect, quickly destroying any cruiser in a few good hits. When facing destroyers, consider switching to control of the 102 mm cannons - the greater volume of fire (up to 12 guns on a broadside) and sufficient stopping power of the guns will rapidly wreck any small ship. The 4" SAP ammunition is significantly better for this than the stock HE.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Four 381 mm guns, enough to cripple any enemy it might have to face
* Numerous fast-firing 102 mm provides steady damage output at mid-to-close range
* Huge empty space at the bow and stern can absorb several hits from shells and torpedoes
* Quite fast and manoeuvrable, despite the size
* Equipped with 40 torpedoes with decent performance

'''Cons:'''

* Very large and distinctive hull shape, easily identified and hit by any enemies
* Poor armour protection, relies heavily on fuel tanks to absorb damage
* Terrible main turret traverse speed, inability to fire reactively
* Poor anti-air defence
* Fixed torpedo tubes restrict their usage to saturational barrages

== History ==


The Courageous-class battlecruisers were formulated during WW1 by the ever-eccentric First Sea Lord, Jacky Fisher, as part of his 'Baltic Project', a planned attack on the German Baltic coastline. In 1915, the Chancellor of the Exchequer had forbidden new construction of any warships larger than light cruisers, yet Lord Fisher wanted new fast capital ships for the Baltic Project in order to support his proposed landings of troops on the beaches of Pomerania.

In order to get around the rule against new capital ships and also because of Lord Fisher's obsession with speed at the expense of all else, the Courageous class were presented as 'large light cruisers', with extremely light armour, extremely high speed and half the main armament of the new Queen Elizabeth-class battleships. Fortunately for Fisher, many of the politicians up top had little knowledge in naval matters and so they saw the high speed, low armour and just approved the design for construction. Unfortunately, however, the ships proved to be a little too lightly built and had a tendency to take structural damage in rough seas or at high speed or even when firing the main guns until they were structurally stiffened in response.

As Fisher's Baltic Project never took place, the ships spent the war patrolling the North Sea. HMS Glorious saw little action, other than the Second Battle of Heligoland Bight, during which she only suffered damage from a premature shell detonation and her own muzzle blasts. She was also present for the surrender of the German High Seas Fleet in 1918.

Following the end of WW1, the battlecruisers were converted into aircraft carriers due to their high speed, whilst the 381 mm turrets of Courageous and Glorious were put into storage. During WW2, these turrets would be reused in the construction of HMS Vanguard, the last battleship ever built.

During WW2, Glorious served in the Mediterranean, Indian Ocean, and in the Norwegian Campaign, before being intercepted in the Norwegian Sea by [[Scharnhorst]] and Gneisenau. Due to a number of faults in leadership, the ship was flying no patrols and made no effort to change course or speed. Glorious was struck by Scharnhorst at a range of 24 km, the longest range capital ship hit in history (a title which Scharnhorst shares with HMS Warspite, which struck an Italian battleship at approximately the same range). Despite the heroic efforts of her two escorting destroyers, Ardent and Acasta, Glorious was sunk by the German battleships a little over two hours after first sighting them, although Scharnhorst was badly damaged by a torpedo from Acasta, requiring the ship to head to port for immediate repairs.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=uk_battlecruiser_glorious Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

== See also ==

''Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the ship;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7920-development-hms-glorious-an-outrageous-warship-design-en|[Devblog] HMS Glorious: An Outrageous Warship Design]]

{{ShipManufacturer Harland and Wolff}}
{{Britain battlecruisers}}

USS Des Moines

2023-11-03T13:37:46Z

U48795062: /* Armament */

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is the lead ship of her class of three heavy cruisers, laid down in late May 1945 shortly before the end of World War 2. Derived from the earlier [[Baltimore (Family)|Baltimore-class]] heavy cruisers, she was the first ship in the US Navy to utilize autoloading {{Annotation|8-inch|203 mm}} guns. She would not see combat, only being commissioned in 1948, with a short service life of only 13 years, being decommissioned in 1961. Notably, she did serve as the flagship of the Mediterranean fleet for 7 of those years, and as the control center for American armed forces in the Lebanon crisis of 1958.

Introduced in [[Update "Sky Guardians"]], USS Des Moines is in an earlier refit compared to her sister ship [[USS Newport News]], and actually has a much stronger anti-aircraft battery: increased from two double {{Annotation|3-inch|76 mm}} autocannon mounts on the Newport News, to a whopping 12 double mounts, plus an additional twelve double 20 mm mounts. This means that in addition to her impressive anti-ship capabilities with a 6-second reload for her main battery, she can also serve as a protective screen for battleships and less protected cruisers against air attack.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}

USS Des Moines, as the lead ship of the [[Des Moines (Family)|Des Moines class]], has an armour layout which is based off the [[Baltimore (Family)|Baltimore class]] heavy cruisers. The main benefit for the main armour belt was to provide protection for the forward magazines, increasing the protection underneath the forward turrets from {{Annotation|0.75 inches|19.05 mm}} to {{Annotation|5.8 inches|147.32 mm}} of armour. The main armour belt is slightly thinner as the [[Baltimore (Family)|Baltimore class]] has a {{Annotation|6-inch|152 mm}} belt, but the extra coverage which the extended belt provides is very welcome. The fore and aft of the citadel are protected by {{Annotation|4.8 inches|121.92 mm}} of bulkhead armour, and thin {{Annotation|0.75-inch|19.05 mm}} bulkheads interspersed throughout the citadel. The decks above the citadel are protected by {{Annotation|1-inch|25.4 mm}} of anti-fragmentation armour just like the destroyers in the US tree. Lower in the ship is a {{Annotation|3.4-inch|86.36 mm}} deck armour plate to deal with incoming fire from long ranges as well; this can deal with other cruisers and lower, however battlecruisers and battleships will easily penetrate this.

Des Moines has excellent armour on the turrets, with {{Annotation|8 inches|203.2 mm}} of armour on the turret face, angled at 34 degrees to provide extra protection. This renders the turret face essentially impervious to any cruiser or destroyer fire, so long as it is facing towards the enemy. The turret sides, with only {{Annotation|3.75 inches|95.25 mm}} of armour, can be penetrated by all cruiser calibre and many destroyer calibre guns at close range. The roof is better protected to defeat plunging fire, with {{Annotation|4 inches|101.6 mm}} of armour. The barbettes have less armour, with {{Annotation|6.1 inches|154.94 mm}} of protection. These will be knocked out regularly by other heavy cruisers and every battleship. These lead into the magazines, and the second turret magazine in particular. It is placed in an exposed position above the waterline unlike the Baltimores, so every precaution should be taken to avoid taking fire to this section. When fighting the Des Moines, this is the recommended area to hit.

Similar to other American cruisers, she lacks torpedo bulges, instead relying on fuel tanks along the hull. These cover the entirety of the hull between the turrets, and can absorb some smaller torpedoes, though most will easily punch through. Captains should watch out for torpedo attacks at all times. If taking a hit is inevitable, manoeuvre the ship so that it takes the hit as close to the front of bow as possible, as the bow is mostly empty space and Des Moines can survive a hit here with just some flooding. Any hits below the turrets, especially the second, should be avoided at all costs.

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}

Possessing a flank speed of {{Annotation|33 kn|61 km/h, 38 mph}}, USS Des Moines has the same top speed as other American heavy cruisers such as the [[USS New Orleans]] or the [[Baltimore (Family)|Baltimore-class]], and slightly faster than the [[Brooklyn (Family)|Brooklyn class]]. This speed allows Des Moines to make it to capture zones and other key locations at a reasonable pace, though not quite as some other cruisers such as [[Voroshilov]]. This speed drops to {{Annotation|23 kn|43 km/h, 27 mph}} in a turn, which although leaving her as an easier target, is still faster than any of the American battleships' flank speeds.

The rudder takes roughly 2 seconds to cause the ship to begin a turn, and while USS Des Moinse is responsive, at essentially 21 tons displacement there is a limit to just how quickly she can turn. Des Moines is agile for a heavy cruiser, but captains will need to be wary when traversing narrow passages as she is unable to make many of the turns that a destroyer or light cruiser could make.

{{NavalMobility}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armament ==
{{Specs-Fleet-Armaments}}
=== Primary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Primary}}

{{main|8 inch/55 Mark 16 (203 mm)}}

''The primary armament of 3 x 8inch/55 Mark 16 x3 cannons are the currently the undisputed best heavy cruiser cannons. Able to fire a volley every 6 seconds (10 rpm) allows for all vessels, cruisers or smaller to be destroyed with relative ease. Like most American cannons, the shell velocity is quite low, making very large shell arches, allowing for ships to be struck whilst still behind island cover. This does however making long range shooting a significant challenge.''

The Des Moines has 4 rounds types, a HE round, two SAP round types and a AP round. The explosive mass of all rounds are extremely powerful for their type. The AP round is able to successfully fight all heavy cruisers as well as some battlecruisers such as the HMS Glorious, SMS Von der Tan, HMS Invincible to name a few.

{{:8 inch/55 Mark 16 (203 mm)/Ammunition|8 inch Mk.14 Common, 8 inch Mk.21 APCBC, 8 inch Mk.25 HC, 8 inch Mk.17 SP Common}}

=== Secondary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Secondary}}

{{main|5 inch/38 Mk.12 (127 mm)}}

''The secondary armament are'' 6 x 5inch/38 Mk/12 x 2 duel purpose cannons, with a max of 4 turret being able to fire during a broadside. The max fire rate is 15-22 rpm (depends on if the first stage ammunition is not depleted). There cannons have terrible muzzle velocity making distant shots against maneuvering targets a major challenge. Fortunately, when fighting light cruisers and destroyers, these secondaries are able to cause significant damage using HE and SAP rounds. These turrets also have access to Proximity Fuse shells, providing superb long to medium range defense against aircraft, including high altitude bombers.

{{:5 inch/38 Mk.12 (127 mm)/Ammunition|5 inch AAC Mk.34, 5 inch AAVT Mk.31, 5 inch SP Common Mk.46}}

=== Anti-aircraft armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-AA}}

{{main|3 inch Mk.33 (76 mm)|20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mark V (20 mm)}}

''An important part of the ship's armament responsible for air defence. Anti-aircraft armament is defined by the weapon chosen with the control <code>Select anti-aircraft weapons</code>. Talk about the ship's anti-air cannons and machine guns, the number of guns and their positions, their effective range, and about their overall effectiveness – including against surface targets. If there are no anti-aircraft armaments, remove this section.''

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Adequate speed, on par with the rest of the American ships of this level
* Decent main firepower with an excellent fire rate of 10 rounds per minute
* Has access to a tracking radar
* Powerful auxiliary and AA defense with decent range and effective against both aircraft and light naval targets
* Large crew complement allows for a decent survivability
* Ammo stowage rooms are located below the waterline
* Decent ammo variety for both the 8-inch and 5-inch guns including HE-VT, HE and AP type rounds
* Overall armour is above average for a cruiser

'''Cons:'''

* Large and long vessel, quite easy to hit especially with torpedoes
* No torpedo protection
* Doesn't have access to a scout plane

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=us_cruiser_des_moines_class Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[USS Newport News]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/8107-development-pre-order-uss-ca-134-des-moines-1948-heavy-cruiser-en|[Devblog] Pre-order: USS CA-134 Des Moines 1948 heavy cruiser]]

{{ShipManufacturer Bethlehem Steel}}
{{USA heavy cruisers}}
{{USA premium ships}}

Krasny Krym

2023-11-03T13:15:17Z

U48795062: /* General info */

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (Red Crimea) is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet light cruiser {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].

A modernized Svetlana-class light cruiser, Krasny Krym's WW1 origins are evident from its large amounts of casemate and single gun turrets, laid across the ship's sides. It is armed with 15 x 130 mm guns, arranged in single mounts; while on paper this may seem impressive, it can fire only a maximum of 8 guns at one target, which with its low calibre for its type means it won't do as much damage as other cruisers. The Krasny Krym is also very slow: while its counterparts steam at around 50 - 60 km/h, Krasny Krym's max speed is 48 km/h, only 3 km/h faster than HMS Dreadnought. However, where the Krasny Krym does shine is in its survivability. Whilst the armour on the vessel isn't especially thick, the armour layout is quite comprehensive and most of the ship is protected by at least some armour. An inbound shell coming at a random angle is could easily encounter two or three layers of protection. This keeps the ship relatively resistant to explosive fragmentation and the armouring is thick enough to halt a fair amount of the armour-piercing shells that will be thrown your way at its BR. Along with the armour is a sizeable crew of 852 men, which can allow for the Krasny Krym to endure surprising levels of punishment and keep fighting. Like other cruisers of its tier, Krasny Krym has a decent AA battery which can deter incoming aircraft, though may not stop a determined/suicidal attacker until after they have dropped their ordnance.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}
The Krasny Krym has identical belt armour to the Krasny Kavkaz, with a 25mm above waterline belt plate along the entire length of the ship. Below the waterline, a cemented 75mm plate assists in preventing hull breaches. The Krasny Krym has two layers of 25mm deck armour, providing substantial protection against HE and even destroyer and early light cruiser SAP from a distance. The primary armament has a 76mm front plate, with 25mm on the sides and 15mm on the roof. These turrets however are easily destroyed by overpressure and effectively any direct hit by SAP and AP. The bridge is protected by 125mm of cemented armour around all sides with 75mm on the roof, making the bridge nearly invulnerable to most ships of the same BR.

The crew count of 852 is quite good for an early light cruiser allowing for impressive endurance whilst under constant fire. The numerous turrets results in a large amount of ammunition elevators, making fires a significant threat due to ammunition detonations. The hull armour is able to stop most destroyer and early cruisers rounds whilst angled heavily.

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}
When compared to the Krasny Kavkaz, the Krasny Krym is a major downgrade in mobility even when fully upgraded. With a max speed of 48/41km/h in Arcade and Realistic respectively. The ability of the rudder to turn the ship is also significantly worse, making the evasion of torpedos a significant issue. This also makes angling the Krasny Krym quite challenging.

{{NavalMobility}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armament ==
{{Specs-Fleet-Armaments}}
=== Primary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Primary}}

{{main|130 mm/55 pattern 1913 (130 mm)}}

The 130 mm cannons can be described in one word - inadequate. Being destroyer calibre guns mounted on an outdated cruiser chassis they should be treated as such. Do not expect to knock out anything you would not be able to with late Soviet destroyers, the shells are not something you will be proud of. They also have quite low velocity, so you will most likely have troubles with accuracy at range, and much lower explosive mass than other cruisers. Aiming whole broadside is also somewhat difficult, since the guns do not share levels of elevation nor horizontal guidance. Let that not scare you however, for they do have some redeeming qualities.

First off, they are quite numerous. A full HE broadside of 8 guns can be quite devastating for anything unarmoured, but do not wish for miracles. When fighting against DDs you can feel relatively comfortable, blacking out a few compartments at once, but facing any cruiser you should try to aim to disable the enemy's armament first, as you do not have the power or reload to overpower them. You will have serious disadvantage against them but you can dish out some pain if you're lucky, especially since you'll be far from the top of the priority target list.

The guns apart from being numerous are quite spaced out and have relatively thick gun shields. You can safely assume that you will be able to return fire from at least a few guns until the bitter end, since the possibility of rendering all of them useless is quite low. Even if after facing a few salvoes one side of the ship is inoperable, you have old-school broadside cruiser at your disposal, you can always turn the other way and respond with the other side's guns.

Also, remember that you have big ammo reserves, 175 shells per gun at full load - you can be liberal with your fire should you want to.

{{:130 mm/55 pattern 1913 (130 mm)/Ammunition|130 mm pat.1928 HE, 130 mm pat.1928 SAP, 130 mm dist. granade}}

=== Secondary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Secondary}}
{{main|Minizini (100 mm)|45 mm/46 21-K (45 mm)}}

The Krasny Krym has 3 x 100mm/50 Minizini x 2 cannons, which are mostly useless. The most noticeable feature are the unlockable HE-TF (High Explosive Time Fuse) shells, which are able to bring down aircraft.

{{:Minizini (100 mm)/Ammunition|100 mm HE, 100 mm anti-air HE}}

=== Anti-aircraft armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-AA}}
{{main|37 mm/67 70-K (37 mm)|DShK (12.7 mm)|Vickers Mk.V (12.7 mm)}}

The main backbone of the AA is the 37mm/67 70-K of which 10 are present on the Krasny Krym and are distributed along the entire vessel. 4 x 45mm/46 21-K are placed behind the forward conning towner. There are several machineguns placed on the rear of the vessel, but provide insignificant protection. Overall the AA armament is very effective for an early cruiser, able to ward off most light bombers and fighters. The Krasny Krym does suffer against high altitude bombers due to a lack of duel purpose cannons.

=== Additional armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Additional}}

{{main|53-38 (533 mm)}}

Unfortunately, Krasny Krym's torpedoes are not very effective. There are only 3 per side, and with only a maximum range of 4 km, they are only useful when you are extremely close to your target where your thick armour is useless or are caught by surprise by a flanking destroyer. It may be wise to not take them at all to eschew the risk of the torpedoes exploding to enemy fire.

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Surprisingly survivable
** Ship is well armoured for its type
** Massive crew, allows it to take a lot of hits and keep going
* Capable AA armament
** 10 x 37 mm autocannons, effective at shooting down aircraft
* Large ammo reserves, 2625 rounds can last an entire match
* Easily overlooked if there are more dangerous ships on the field
* When facing enemy head-on, slightly angled, most primary guns can be fired

'''Cons:'''

* Lacking firepower
** Destroyer calibre guns means less damage against enemy ships
** Reload is about the same as other 152 mm gun-armed cruisers
** Low-range and small amount of torpedoes mean they are only effective when you are far too close to an enemy
* Sluggishly slow, similar to some battleships
* Not manoeuvrable at all, large turning circle makes it somewhat hard to dodge torpedoes, bombs, and enemy fire

== History ==

Krasny Krym was initially laid down in 1913 under the name 'Svetlana', and was the lead ship of her class of four. Svetlana-class light cruisers were intended for the Baltic Fleet of the Imperial Russian Navy and were therefore designed slightly differently in comparison to the closely-related, intended for Black Sea operations, Admiral Nakhimov-class (of which the already familiar Krasny Kavkaz was a part of).

By late 1917, Svetlana was nearing completion. In the meantime however, the Russian Empire was beginning to collapse and the ensuing revolutions, followed by a civil war, halted construction. After the establishment of the Soviet Union, work on the Svetlana continued in 1924, with the ship being renamed 'Profintern'.

Work on the Profintern finally finished in July 1928, with the ship's completed layout closely resembling the original one. Instead of being commissioned into service with the Baltic Fleet as originally planned, Profintern was instead assigned to the ranks of the Black Sea Fleet in 1929.

Throughout the '30s, the Profintern underwent substantial overhaul works, with her auxiliary weapon systems being upgraded and fire control systems improved. Shortly after the outbreak of WW2, the ship was renamed for the second and last time to Krasny Krym in October 1939.

Krasny Krym, similarly to her half-sister Krasny Kavkaz, served the entirety of WW2 as part of various operations in the Black Sea region. Most notably, taking part in the Siege of Sevastopol and the Kerch-Feodosiya Operation. As such, the ship was primarily tasked with escorting various convoys, evacuating and transporting troops as well as bombarding enemy positions with artillery fire. For her performance, Krasny Krym was also awarded with the elite Guards title in June 1942.

Following the end of WW2, Krasny Krym remained in active service for some time, although repurposed on several occasions. July 1959 marked the end of the ship's service, with Krasny Krym being ultimately sold for scrap.

''- From [[wt:en/news/5932-development-krasny-krym-all-weapons-fire-at-will-en|Devblog]]''

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{{USSR light cruisers}}

Kronshtadt

2023-11-03T03:54:27Z

U48795062: Slight edit to survivability.

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet battlecruiser {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]].

The project began in the mid-1930s, first envisioned as essentially a super heavy cruiser of sorts, which was first intended to be able to defeat the treaty cruisers of other major powers. Over several years, the project evolved and grew through numerous iterations to the final battlecruiser design we have in game. Unfortunately for the Soviets however, construction began in 1939, shortly before the war broke out and the vessels of the class never had a chance to leave the shipyards before the German invasion permanently halted construction, the partially completed hulls were regarded as obsolete by the war's end and scrapped shortly thereafter.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}

Firstly, the Kronshtadt uses an all or nothing armour scheme, wherein the vast majority of the armour is focused on the vital sections (the citadel) whilst the areas of lesser importance have little to no armour (the fore and aft). The main armour belt of the Kronshtadt is a respectable 230 mm of RCA (rolled cemented armour), covering most of the side of the hull above the waterline and extending a decent way under the waterline as well. [[File:Kronshtadt armour layout.png|thumb|Kronshtadt's 230 mm armour plate]]The bow of the ship features a 20 mm icebreaker, which can fuse penetrating shells before they hit the bulkhead, though it's only half the height of the armour belt, leaving an unprotected gap between the icebreaker and the deck. The forward bulkhead is quite thick, 330 mm of RCA. The aft bulkhead is a lesser 275 mm RCA, though still capable of protecting the internals.

The deck of the citadel has three layers of armour, the first is only 14 mm, intended to fuse shells and bombs prematurely. Under this is the main armour deck, 90 mm of RHA (rolled homogeneous armour). The final layer is a 30 mm splinter deck, which tapers to 15 mm over the torpedo bulges. The deck of the fore and aft of the ship have only a single 10 mm layer.

The main turrets have sloped turret faces with 305 mm of RCA, the turret sides and roof are a uniform 125 mm RCA, the rear has the same 305 mm as the turret face, meanwhile the more vulnerable gunshields only have 152 mm of RHA. The barbettes are angular with 9 sides and have 330 mm of RCA, however once under the main armour deck the barbettes thin all the way down to 30 mm of RHA. Lastly, the turret rangefinders are covered in 30 mm splinter protection.

The bridge of the vessel is fully protected by RCA, with 330 mm and 275 mm armour plates on the front and back respectively, with 260 mm on the sides and a 125 mm roof, while the radio room below the bridge is completely enclosed in 50 mm RHA. The fire control room at the top of the superstructure also has 50 mm all around.

The secondary 152 mm turrets have 100 mm faces, 50 mm sides and roofs, and 110 mm rears, with 75 mm barbettes. The 100 mm turrets are 50 mm all around with 40 mm barbettes. The 37 mm turrets have 14 mm all around with 20 mm barbettes.

The funnels and fire directors are protected by 20 mm and 14 mm splinter protection respectively. All of the auxiliary turret and superstructure protection is made of rolled homogeneous armour (RHA).

In terms of underwater protection, the ship uses American-style torpedo bulges with 4 longitudinal bulkheads, rated to be able to absorb 250 kg of explosive weight, though the original design specifies that it should be able to withstand 500 kg. The bulges cover 61% of the ships length and have a maximum depth of 6 m, tapering to 4 m fore and aft.
[[File:Kronshtadt & Nevada.png|thumb|The sheer size of the Kronshtadt compared to the 356mm armed USS Nevada.]]
Something that may be important in terms of survivability is the sheer size of the vessel. At 41kt, the Kronshtadt is the second heaviest playable vehicle in the entire game, second only to HMS Hood. Combined with being a battlecruiser built for high speeds, it has a very long hull that makes for a huge target. The ship can be more easily targeted and may end up being hit by more shells in any given salvo than a smaller vessel would have been hit by. That being said, the size does help when combatting aircraft as the more spread out internals and modules can result in bomb hits destroying comparatively less of the vital parts of the ship than if they had all been clustered up within a smaller hull.

As a side note, the main armour belt curves with the hull of the ship, resulting in the foremost and rearmost (but mostly the foremost, and conveniently right in front of the turrets) armour plates having a noticeable degree of incline outwards rather than standing vertically, which can substantially increase the effective thickness against shells hitting those particular areas, especially if the ship is already angled.

Lastly, the ship has a hefty crew complement of 1,406. Though not the most by capital ship standards, this is still a more than respectable number.

Overall, the Kronshtadt is a surprisingly damage resistant ship for a battlecruiser. Though only 230 mm, the main belt can still block high calibre AP shells when angled and the belt being relatively tall and lengthy makes it excellent for blocking HE fragments and catching shells that would have otherwise plunged into the upper decks. The layered armoured deck is great at resisting some of the smaller bombs and can shrug off any armour piercing shells in game except possibly at extremely long range. The turrets are reasonably sturdy, though can occasionally be knocked out by armour piercing shells hitting the relatively thin sides, however the ships ammunition doesn't tend to explode very often and if it does, the vessel can even survive one or two of the main magazines detonating, provided the payer keeps on top of damage control. The ship in general is very HE-resistant, due to a number of factors, but mainly thanks to how the ship has a relatively small number of AA guns, which are all safe within fully enclosed turrets and covered in anti-fragmentation armour rather than being in open mounts spread across the deck. In most circumstances, the ship can practically ignore cruiser fire (at least, from a single ship) at anything other than short ranges and thanks to the torpedo protection, the ship is nearly immune to torpedoes which aren't strong enough to overpower your defences.

The ship is still vulnerable to other capital ships when not angled. If you're in a duel with another battleship or battlecruiser, point the bow as much as you can toward them while being able to fire all main turrets, though if you've taken major damage you may opt to angle even further at the expense of not being able to fire your aft turret. Take care when fighting heavy cruisers at close range, such as the Prinz Eugen, Admiral Hipper, or Des Moines, as they can punch through your belt armour at close range with ease, creating significant risk of ammunition detonation.

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}

[[File:Kronshtadt at high speed.png|thumb|Kronshtadt at full speed]]
The Kronshtadt uses 3 propeller shafts, powered by Brown Boveri steam turbines and 12 x 7u-bis water-tube boilers contained in 3 engine blocks, which are ducted into two funnels, propelling the ship to an impressive maximum speed of 61 km/h (71 km/h in arcade), faster than HMS Hood or IJN Haruna (57 km/h) and slightly faster than the battleship Scharnhorst (59 km/h).

Though the vessel is extremely large, the acceleration and deceleration of the vessel is decently quick enough that you can still utilise it to dodge fire from other capital ships.

Being a long and heavy ship, the 41,000 t Kronshtadt has a large turning circle and manoeuvres like a brick when stock, though the ship becomes noticeably more responsive and agile with all the mobility upgrades. The ship also tends to keel to the side somewhat when making high speed turns, especially when fully upgraded, which can thoroughly interrupt your aiming and make it physically impossible to aim at closer range targets on the side you're turning towards until you've stopped turning and recovered from the list.

{{NavalMobility}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armament ==
{{Specs-Fleet-Armaments}}
=== Primary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Primary}}

{{main|305 mm/54 B-50 (305 mm)}}

The Kronshtadt is armed with a total of 9 x electrically-powered 305 mm 54-calibre B-50 cannons, arranged in 3 x large triple turrets, two superfiring fore and one aft. The ship carries 100 shells per gun, 900 in total. 100 main battery shells per gun mean only 100 full broadsides, little more than half an hour's worth of continuous firing. You may run out of main battery shells after extended engagements, such as in EC.

The cannons can be depressed to -3° and elevated to +45° with an elevation rate of 10°/s, while the turrets can traverse at an impressive 5°/s, giving you relatively good gun handling for turrets of this size. The cannons have an average level of dispersion, not too accurate, not too spaced out.

The turrets have a stock reload of 26 seconds, but can drop to 20 seconds with a max crew, which is considerably faster firing than most other ships armed with this calibre, though not quite as fast firing as the Scharnhorst with its 283 mm guns.

Unlike other Soviet capital ships, the Kronshtadt does not have any SAP ammunition for the main turrets, having only access to HE and AP shells.
[[File:Kronshtadt broadside.png|thumb|Kronshtadt firing a full broadside of AP shells.]]
The high-explosive shell weighs 314 kg and has a high filler mass, 55.41 kg of TNT with 72 mm of explosive penetration at any angle. The muzzle velocity of the shell is 1,000 m/s, the highest of any battleship calibre shell in game, making long range aiming much easier at the expense of not being able to arc shots over the tops of islands quite as well. The HE shell is great for destroying any targets, from patrol boats up to some of the more heavily armoured cruisers and some capital ships. When fighting capital ships, the shell is very handy for knocking out unprotected crew, setting devastating fires and creating holes for flooding, which can occasionally sink enemy vessels if they don't keep on top of repairing leaks. Plus, if you strike your enemies turrets with this shell then there's a high chance you will destroy their gun barrels and cripple their firepower until they're repaired.

The armour-piercing shell weighs 470.9 kg and has a bursting charge of 12.2 kg of A-IX-2, equivalent to 18.79 kg of TNT, which is a brilliant level of filler for an AP shell. For comparison, the USS Arizona (356 mm guns) has 14 kg in its AP shells and the Scharnhorst (283 mm guns) has only 7 kg. The armour penetration statistics are just as impressive, with the shell cleaving through 677 mm of armour at 1 km away and still being capable of punching past 333 mm at 15 km away. This is a comparable level of penetration to 380 mm cannons. With a fuse delay of 0.05 seconds, the shell can often pass right through soft targets like boats and destroyers, dealing little damage other than flooding, though is still useful against cruisers that have a lot of armour or that are angled toward you. The shell also has a muzzle velocity of 900 m/s which, while lower than the HE shell due to being much heavier, is still fairly fast and still allows for relatively easy aiming at long range.

Both of these shells are of exceptional quality and together give you the capability to defeat any vessel in the game.

{{:305 mm/54 B-50 (305 mm)/Ammunition|12 inch HE patt. 1928, 12 inch APCBC}}

=== Secondary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Secondary}}

{{main|152 mm/57 B-38 (152 mm)}}

The secondary armament of the Kronshtadt consists of 8 x 152 mm 57-calibre B-38 cannons, arranged in 4 x twin turrets near the front of the superstructure, two on the starboard side, two on the port side, with the foremost turrets inboard and on raised barbettes, giving them good arcs of fire. They carry 150 shells per gun, 300 per turret, 1,200 in total.

These turrets carry the same cannons that can be found in the main armament of the [[Chapayev]]- and [[Sverdlov]]-class light cruisers, renowned for their excellent guns. You have decent gun handling with these turrets, with elevation limits at -5° to +45°, an elevation rate of 13°/s and a traversal rate of 7.2°/s. Your turrets have a 10-second reload, 8 with a max crew.

You have four shell types to choose from :

* HE - 55 kg mass, 950 m/s muzzle velocity, 6 kg of TNT filler with 0.1 mm fuse sensitivity and 50 mm of explosive penetration at any angle.
* SAPBC - 55 kg mass, 950 m/s muzzle velocity, a filler of 5.9 kg of TNTeq with a fuse sensitivity of 7 mm and 0.03 seconds. Penetration is 172 mm at 1 km, 74 mm at 10 km and 52 mm at 15 km.
* APCBC - 55 kg mass, 950 m/s muzzle velocity, 1.69 kg of TNTeq for filler with a fuse sensitivity of 7 mm and 0.03 seconds. Penetration is 333 mm at 1 km, 143 mm at 10 km and 100 mm at 15 km.
* HE-TF - 54.23 kg mass, 950 m/s muzzle velocity, 10.1 kg of TNTeq with 0.01 mm fuse sensitivity and 62 mm of explosive penetration at any angle, equipped with a timed fuse for use against aircraft.

[[File:Kronshtadt 152mm.png|thumb|The two starboard 152 mm turrets of the Kronshtadt]]
Now whilst these are good guns in cruiser terms, they're not all that much for a battlecruiser like the Kronshtadt. You only have a maximum broadside of 4 guns and the reload isn't exactly the fastest. They're not of much use against small boats because your anti-aircraft suite can take care of them much more effectively. While you can do some damage to cruisers and capital ships with the 152 mm cannons, they really don't add much to the damage output of the main 305 mm cannons. The main guns can fire almost as fast as some heavy cruisers and deal overwhelming damage in comparison to the 152 mm, meaning that using the secondary guns against major ships won't make a noticeable difference. It's therefore recommended to load the guns with the HE-TF shells so they can be of use against aircraft by acting as heavy AA batteries. With over 6 kg of filler, the shells can be very effective if they detonate in the vicinity of an inbound aircraft and have more range than anything in your dedicated AA suite. As before, the slow reload rate is not ideal in this role, but they have more use against aircraft than warships and might just save you when conventional AA fails. Plus, the high explosive filler means they can still be of occasional use against soft surface targets.

{{:152 mm/57 B-38 (152 mm)/Ammunition|152 mm OF-35 HE, 152 mm B-35 AP, 152 mm PB-35 SAP, 152 mm ZS-35 AA}}

=== Anti-aircraft armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-AA}}

{{main|100 mm/56 B-34 (100 mm)|37 mm/67 70-K (37 mm)}}
[[File:Kronshtadt 37mm turrets.png|thumb|All of the anti-air autocannons are concentrated into a small number of quad turrets like this.]]
The main anti-air armament of the Kronshtadt is made up of 28 x 37 mm 67-calibre water-cooled 70-K autocannons. What's unique about the AA on the Kronshtadt is that all the anti-air guns are are grouped into a handful of miniature turrets, whereas pretty much every other vessel in game has at least some of its anti-air guns as open air gun mounts, which are highly vulnerable to explosive damage. The vessel has seven quad turrets in total with three positioned on the fore of the superstructure and four on the aft. This is complemented by 8 x 100 mm 56-calibre B-34 dual purpose cannons arranged in four twin turrets, all of which are grouped on the rear of the superstructure. The 37 mm guns each carry 2,000 rounds of ammunition each, 8,000 per turret, 56,000 in total, while the 100 mm turrets carry 300 rounds per gun, 600 per turret and 2,400 in total.
The 37 mm turrets have elevation limits of -10° to +85°, enabling them to fire in nearly any direction, whilst they can traverse at 20°/s and elevate at 15°/s. The guns fire a 732 g shell at a muzzle velocity of 880 m/s. With a reload speed of 0.4 seconds, each gun has a rate of fire of 126 RPM, giving each turret a rate of fire of 504 RPM. With an average of 5 turrets on a broadside target, that lets you fire at an inbound target with a potential of at least 2,500 RPM.

The 100 mm turrets have almost identical elevation limits of -8° to +85°, though the targeting speed is lesser, at 12°/s traverse and 10°/s elevation. They fire a 15.6 kg HE-TF shell at a muzzle velocity of 900 m/s every 4 seconds for a rate of fire of 30 RPM per turret, 60 RPM on a broadside. [[File:Kronshtadt AA fire.png|thumb|Anti-air fire from the aft turrets of the Kronshtadt]]Overall, and despite having relatively few anti-air turrets, the Kronshtadt has a decent level of AA capability that wouldn't be out of place on your average cruiser. Now, the 37 mm turrets fire all the guns on the turret simultaneously, so there's a noticeable gap between each shot as they reload, but you can occasionally get circumstances where, due to overheating and such, the turrets end up staggering the fire of their 4 guns, giving a much more useful density of fire. Unfortunately, there is no option or button to allow for staggered fire at all times. The turrets are not bad when it comes to accuracy as well, often striking aircraft at medium range and nailing aircraft that get too close, though as always, this can heavily depend on the aircraft in question and who is flying it. The 37 mm cannons don't usually need many hits to bring a plane down. Unfortunately though, due to all being in entire turrets, the guns aren't the fastest to respond to aircraft that appear from nowhere or that get close enough to outrun the rate the turrets can traverse. The 100 mm cannons can create a reasonably dense flak field that can reach out much further than the 37 mm guns, though the relatively low calibre of the cannons and only having timed fuses instead of proximity fuses means that it's not uncommon for aircraft to just fly through the flak while taking little to no damage unless a lucky shell detonates right next to the plane.

=== Scout plane ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Plane}}

== Usage in battles ==

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=== Pros and cons ===

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'''Pros:'''

* Highly effective main calibre shells
* Fast reload for the main turrets
* Effective armour layout
* Large crew count
* Generally resistant to HE fragmentation and bombs
* Surprisingly capable AA
* High top speed, great for EC battles

'''Cons:'''

* Main belt can easily be penetrated when not angled
* Huge and easily recognisable target
* Wide turn radius, plus a tendency to lean too much to the side in a turn
* No proximity fuse AA shells, only time-fused shells
* Secondary battery with a low damage output
* Limited ammunition count for the main guns if you play Enduring Confrontation

== History ==


=== [[wt:en/news/7720-development-kronshtadt-shattered-dream-en|Devblog]] ===
During the 1930s Soviet shipbuilders were intensely working on designing new warships for the Soviet Navy. Among the top priorities was the development of a new cruiser design that could counter 10,000-ton cruisers of other nations. Several design proposals were submitted by 1935, of which none passed initial approval. The navy requested a new design, but the signing of a naval agreement with Great Britain in 1937 caused the requirements to collide with another similar project, ultimately resulting in this effort to also be canceled shortly afterwards.

Nonetheless, the Navy still sought to construct a fast and strong counter to other nations' cruisers, resulting in the development of the Project 69 battlecruiser. However, the already modified requirements for a 26,200-ton vessel proved to be insufficient after the Soviet Navy found out about the specifications of the German Scharnhost class of battleships. This led to yet another update to the requirements in July 1938, now calling for an upgunned and up-armored 31,000-ton battlecruiser (or "heavy cruiser"). After another series of revisions, the design was finally approved for construction in Summer 1939, with two ships being ordered for completion by 1943.

One of the ordered ships - Kronshtadt - was laid down in Leningrad on 30th November, 1939. However, due to severe production delays, the warship was only deemed 10% completed by the time the German army launched its offensive on the USSR in June 1941. Following the invasion, all further construction work was suspended with some part of Kronshtadt being later used for fortifications around Leningrad. After the war, plans were formulated to convert the Kronshtadt into an aircraft carrier, but the design was already seen as outdated leading to the proposal being rejected. In 1947, the ultimate decision was made to dismantle and scrap the partially built hull.

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{{USSR battlecruisers}}

Mikhail Kutuzov

2023-11-03T03:32:51Z

U48795062: Early work on survivability and armour

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet light cruiser {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Drone Age"]]. In its 1986 refit, the Sverdlov-class cruiser Mikhail Kutuzov is one of the most modern naval vessels in the game and by far the most modern of the cruisers, though the refit of the ship did not include any missiles as the date might suggest, leaving general gameplay very similar to the more WW2 era cruisers found in game.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}

The armour of the Mikhail Kutuzov is effectively identical to that of the Sverdlov, with the most noticeable changes being those on the superstructure and conning tower. The belt armour is 100mm of RHA, whilst the deck armour is 50mm RHA.

The general survivability is worse than the Sverdlov, mostly due to a significantly smaller crew, but also more vulnerable AA ammunition locations, creating a higher chance of an ammunition detonation.

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}

''Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.''

{{NavalMobility}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armament ==
{{Specs-Fleet-Armaments}}
=== Primary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Primary}}

{{main|152 mm/57 B-38 (152 mm)}}
The Mikhail Kutuzov is armed with twelve 152 mm/57 B-38 cannons in four turrets in triple mounts. These guns boast formidable fire rate of 7.5 rounds per minute while also possessing great penetration capabilities on AP shell and well above average levels of explosive filler in all shell types. All information about ammunition used in the cannons can be found in the tables below.

{{:152 mm/57 B-38 (152 mm)/Ammunition|152 mm OF-35 HE, 152 mm B-35 AP, 152 mm PB-35 SAP, 152 mm ZS-35 AA}}

=== Secondary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Secondary}}

{{main|100 mm/70 SM-5-1 (100 mm)}}

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{{:100 mm/70 SM-5-1 (100 mm)/Ammunition|100 mm OF-55 HE, 100 mm ZS-55 AA, 100 mm F-55 HE-F, 100 mm ZS-55R AA-VT}}

=== Anti-aircraft armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-AA}}

{{main|V-11 (37 mm)|AK-230 (30 mm)}}

The AA weaponry of the Kutuzov is similar to the 50s era Sverdlov, being mainly composed of V-11 37 mm gun mounts, however the Kutuzov is also equipped with an array of advanced AK-230 CIWS (Close In Weapons System) mounts, which is the main feature of the ship that sets it aside from the Sverdlov.

Being CIWS mounts, they were designed with shooting down missiles, which tend to be much smaller and faster than aircraft, so you'd think they'd be great against aircraft. Whilst they do provide a highly lethal field of bullets that can rip apart inbound aircraft, these mounts are not quite as accurate as you'd expect them to be in real life. They may be modern mounts, but they do not have a more advanced targeting system modelled in and are still controlled by the same hit and miss AI as on any other ship. They also don't have a very big pool of ammunition, being designed for short bursts against straight-flying missiles. A short burst might be fine for a missile, but manoeuvring aircraft are a different matter entirely, especially when the guns are controlled by the in-game AI, which will hold down fire until the attacker is destroyed or it is out of bullets. There's also the issue that they don't have a massive range, which means that an aircraft close enough to be targeted is probably not far off from being able to drop its ordinance, if it hasn't already.

All being said, they are still potentially very deadly threats to aircraft in range, being able to track aircraft much faster than most other gun mounts and having a biblical rate of fire that deletes any unarmoured target it touches.

As a side note, despite being specifically designed to take out missiles, the mounts currently do not have this functionality modelled in game. If the ship is under attack by missile armed vehicles, such as a Tornado or USS Douglas, the CIWS mounts will utterly ignore the missiles and make no effort to intercept them.

== Usage in battles ==

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=== Pros and cons ===

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'''Pros:'''

* Uses an effective three-tiered anti-aircraft suite
* Has access to radar, granting more situational awareness against air attacks
* Powerful secondaries

'''Cons:'''

* No scout aircraft onboard
* No torpedos, making larger warships a greater threat
* Worse survivability than the Sverdlov.
* Belt armour is inadequate compared to other cruisers

== History ==

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== Media ==


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== See also ==

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== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7824-development-mikhail-kutuzov-the-monument-to-the-big-ships-en|[Devblog] Mikhail Kutuzov: the monument to the big ships]]

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