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MG08 pattern 1908 (7.92 mm)

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File:GM08 pattern 1908 (7.92 mm) on SMS Westfalen.png

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the gun on a mount

Breda-SAFAT (12.7 mm)

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== Description ==

The '''12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT''' is an Italian heavy machine gun used on their aircraft. Modified from the [[Breda-SAFAT (7.7 mm)]] .303 chambered Breda-SAFAT machine guns originally acquired, the Italians adapted the machine guns to accept their 12.7x81 mmSR ammunition for better firepower.

In the game, the 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT equips the majority of the Italian aircraft, in fighter or other roles, up until Rank IV.

=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===


{{Navigation-Start|Vehicles equipped with this weapon}}

{{Navigation-First-Line|'''Fighters'''}}
{{Navigation-Line|CR.32}}{{Specs-Link|cr_32}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|cr_32_bis}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|cr_32_quater}}
{{Navigation-Line|CR.42}}{{Specs-Link|fiat_cr42_italy}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fiat_cr42}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fiat_cr42_marcolin_italy}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fiat_cr42_marcolin}}
{{Navigation-Line|G.50}}{{Specs-Link|fiat_g50_seria2_italy}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fiat_g50_seria2}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fiat_g50_seria7as_italy}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fiat_g50_seria7as}}
{{Navigation-Line|G.55}}{{Specs-Link|g_55_serie1}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|g_55_serie1_ss0}}
{{Navigation-Line|C.200}}{{Specs-Link|mc200_serie3_italy}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mc200_serie3}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mc200_serie7_italy}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mc200_serie7}}
{{Navigation-Line|C.202}}{{Specs-Link|mc-202_italy}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mc-202}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mc-202_d}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mc-202_ec}}
{{Navigation-Line|C.205}}{{Specs-Link|mc-205_serie1}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mc-205_serie3}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mc-205_n2}}
{{Navigation-Line|Re.2000}}{{Specs-Link|re_2000_ga}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|re_2000_int}}
{{Navigation-Line|Re.2001}}{{Specs-Link|re_2001_cb}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|re_2001_cn}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|re_2001_serie1}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|re_2001_serie1_ep}}
{{Navigation-Line|Re.2002}}{{Specs-Link|re_2002_early}}
{{Navigation-Line|Re.2005}}{{Specs-Link|re_2005_serie0}}

{{Navigation-First-Line|'''Twin-engine fighters'''}}{{Specs-Link|ro_57_quadriarma}}

{{Navigation-First-Line|'''Attackers'''}}{{Specs-Link|ba_65_k14_l}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|breda_88}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fc_20_bis}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|p_108a_serie2}} (Defensive){{-}}{{Specs-Link|sm_92}}

{{Navigation-First-Line|'''Bombers'''}}
{{Navigation-Line|B.R.20}}{{Specs-Link|br_20m_m1}} (Defensive)
{{Navigation-Line|P.108B}}{{Specs-Link|p_108b_serie1}} (Defensive){{-}}{{Specs-Link|p_108b_serie2}} (Defensive)
{{Navigation-Line|S.M.79}}{{Specs-Link|sm_79_1936_italy}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|sm_79_1936}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|sm_79_iar_italy}} (Defensive){{-}}{{Specs-Link|sm_79_iar}} (Defensive){{-}}{{Specs-Link|sm_79_1937}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|sm_79_1939_italy}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|sm_79_1939}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|sm_79_1941_italy}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|sm_79_1941}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|sm_79_1942}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|sm_79_1943_italy}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|sm_79_1943}}
{{Navigation-Line|Z.1007}}{{Specs-Link|z_1007_bis_serie3}} (Defensive){{-}}{{Specs-Link|z_1007_bis_serie5}} (Defensive)

{{Navigation-First-Line|'''Motor torpedo boats'''}}{{Specs-Link|it_mas_classe500_3_1944}}

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== General info ==
''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.''

=== Available ammunition ===
''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).''

=== Comparison with analogues ===
''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.''

== Usage in battles ==

This gun is the staple of Italian aircraft weapons from rank I through to rank IV. Nearly all aircraft- that is, all aircraft save for the foreign premiums and the Ju-87 variants, have at least two of these guns. It is often equipped with other guns as well. While good at lower BRs and ranks, starting at rank III/BR 3.7, these guns begin to lose their effectiveness and destructive power. Fortunately, usually Italian planes starting from that BR are equipped with MG151/20s as either wing-mounted or centre-mounted ''Motorkanone'' to provide sufficient damage output.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* IAI (explosive) bullets
* Early-game API-T Tracer belts
* Air Targets belts
* Comes on planes with absolutely stunning performance, with playstyles comparable to rank III [[Spitfire (Family)|Spitfires]]
* Usually centre-mounted on the engine cowling, just like [[MG 131 (13 mm)|MG 131s]]
* Shreds through aircraft parts and modules if you aim precisely
* Relatively accurate
* Good early-game damage, especially in reserves, where belts of air targets and tracer simply shred through other biplanes, soft ground targets and reserves

'''Cons:'''

* Anaemic performance upwards of rank III.
* Low rate of fire compared to contemporary .50-calibre guns (700 rounds per minute, as opposed to 750 rounds per minute on early M2s, 768 on late-game M2s, 798 on Berezin's and 900 on MG131s and Ho-103s)
* Lower muzzle velocity compared to contemporary guns
* Damage becomes punctual beginning at higher ranks

== History ==
In the 1930s the Italian Regio Aeronautica (Italian Air Force) ordered the development of new machine guns for Italian fighters and bombers. The government ordered two companies of Breda and SAFAT to build their machine guns for the competition which had the Breda design based on the [[Browning (7.62 mm)|Browning]] won their favor. SAFAT's parent company FIAT attempted to contest the decision, but lost their dispute lead to SAFAT getting merged with Breda to create the arms designer Breda-SAFAT. The original guns were chambered for .303 British, but the company soon made a variant chambered in 12.7x81mmSR following the trend of heavy machine gun cartridges used by other nations. The short-recoil Breda-SAFAT was intended to be equal or superior to contemporary machine guns. It was liked by Italian pilots for its long range and hitting power and armorers for its reliability, but it was heavy, had a low muzzle a modest rate of fire of 700 rounds per minute compare the 1,000 rpm used on contemporary weapons from other nations, and the High-Explosive-Incendiary-Tracer ammunition was ineffective. In addition, the Italians did not develop their own 20mm cannon instead purchasing German [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151]] cannons to mount on their Macchi [[C. 205 (Family)|C. 205]] Veltro, FIAT [[G.55 (Family)|G.55]] Centauro, and Reggiane [[Re.2005 serie 0|Re.2005]] Sagittario fighters. While adequate for 1935, the Italian fighter armament of two 12.7mm Breda-SAFATs occasionally complimented by two [[Breda-SAFAT (7.7 mm)|Breda-SAFAT 7.7mm]] machine guns was well obsolete by 1940. However, almost every fighter and bomber used by the Regio Aeronautica under Mussolini would be armed with these two calibers of machines and the design survived into the 1970s as a anti-aircraft gun most notably in Syria.

== Media ==
''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''
[[File:Mounted on a MAS boat.png|center|thumb]]

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
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{{Aircraft machine guns}}
{{Naval machine guns}}

[[Category:Aircraft machine guns]]
[[Category:Naval machine guns]]

File:Breda-SAFAT (12.7 mm) on a MAS boat.png

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The gun mounted.

Fiat Model 26 (6.5 mm)

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File:Fiat Model 26 (6.5 mm) on the Stefano Turr.png

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the gun in game

Breda Mod.30 (6.5 mm)

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File:Breda Mod.30 (6.5 mm) on the MAS boat.png

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the gun mounted on a boat

2pdr Rolls Royce (40 mm)

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== Description ==
''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.''

=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===


* {{Specs-Link|uk_70ft_mgb}}
* {{Specs-Link|uk_fairmile_c}}

== General info ==
''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.''

=== Available ammunition ===
''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).''

=== Comparison with analogues ===
''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.''

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.''

=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''

*

'''Cons:'''

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== History ==

The 2-pounder Rolls Royce is the naval variant of the [[Rolls-Royce Type BH (40 mm)|Rolls-Royce Type BH]] aircraft cannon. While first built for aircraft, it was never used in that capacity outside of testing as the Royal Navy decided in 1943 that rockets such as the [[RP-3]] were the better choice for aerial anti-armour weapon and before that, adopted the competing [[Vickers S (40 mm)|Vickers S]]. The Royal Navy, however, found a use of the design in 1940 realizing their coastal defense boats needed a weapon to counter German E-boats. In September, the 2-pounder Rolls Royce was tested off Whale Island by the Royal Navy and, after ironing out the problems, was adopted in 1941. Used primarily on the [[Fairmile C (312)|Fairmile C]], it was also used on motor gunboats such as [[MGB-75]] which were used to both defend the British coast and the Mediterranean Sea as an anti-aircraft gun. Because Minister of Aircraft Production Lord Beaverbrook forbade Rolls Royce from building the design themselves, the 600 guns produced for the Royal Navy were subcontracted to the British United Shoe Company. Replacing some of their earlier [[20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II (20 mm)|Oerlikon 20 mm]] cannons, the Rolls-Royce was itself eventually replaced by a variant of the [[Molins Class M (57 mm)|Molins Class M]], another design first built for aircraft use.

== Media ==
''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
[[File:The gun on the MGB.png|thumb]]

== See also ==


* [[Rolls-Royce Type BH (40 mm)]] - Original aircraft variant

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Britain naval cannons}}

[[Category:Naval cannons]]

File:2pdr Rolls Royce (40 mm) on the MGB.png

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The gun position on the MGB