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J11

2023-12-27T20:27:58Z

U38249747: /* Usage in battles */ minor spell change

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|code=fiat_cr42_j11
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
|cockpit=cockpit_fiat_cr42_j11.jpg
}}

== Description ==

Sweden bought a large number of CR.42 Falco biplanes between 1939 and 1941 as an emergency measure during the outbreak of WWII. A total of 72 fighters were delivered to Sweden with additional equipment such as radio sets, and these fighters were designated '''J11'''. During its lifetime, the CR.42 Falco gained a troubled reputation since it suffered many accidents, often due to the poor quality of materials used by Fiat. As with most biplanes, pilots appreciated its excellent dogfighting abilities, but complained about the poor top speed, insufficient armament, and open cockpits that were not suited for the cold weather of Sweden. The aircraft was decommissioned in 1945 for good, and some were sold to civilian contractors while others were used as target practice.

Introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]], the '''{{Specs|name}}''' is almost the same as the CR.42 Falco, which is one of the best biplanes in game. With a very high top speed for a biplane, it will outrun even some early monoplane fighters around its BR. It is also armed with twin 12.7 mm HMGs that are devastating against early planes due to their lack of armour and self-sealing fuel tanks. The J11 is also very good at climbing. However, the aircraft suffers the same issues that most biplanes have, with a lack of flaps, extremely poor energy retention, and a weak airframe.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


The J11 is a rank one Swedish fighter with 2 x 12.7 mm Akan m/40 machine guns, which are devastating when they hit an enemy biplane but they have a slow rate of fire. The plane has a high top speed of 447 km/h which can outrun most biplanes at its rank, when fully upgraded.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 5,200 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 413 || 402 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 20.0 || 20.6 || 14.2 || 14.2 || rowspan="2" | 294
|-
! Upgraded
| 447 || 429 || 18.5 || 19.2 || 21.1 || 17.2
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| X || X || X || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || N/A || N/A || ~16 || ~7
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 280 || < 240 || < 450 || > 250
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


* 10mm steel pilot's seat
* Self-sealing fuel tanks (one below the pilot's feet, one between cooling system and machine guns)

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|Akan m/40 (12.7 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 2 x 12.7 mm Akan m/40 machine guns, nose-mounted (450 rpg = 900 total)

== Usage in battles ==


* Climb slightly to avoid large dogfights
* Dive on unsuspecting opponents
* Keep altitude and turn only when necessary
* When losing a dogfight try to use the J11's speed advantage to run away especially in mode(s) RB

The {{PAGENAME}} plays identical to the Italian counterpart, capable of high speeds without sacrificing the agility a biplane offers. The engine is almost twice as powerful compared to the [[J6B]] found before it, and the strong framework allows for even higher speeds, allowing the {{PAGENAME}} to chase down opponents in battle. Most importantly, however, is that the {{PAGENAME}} offers greater climb and energy retention, allowing for a bit more boom & zoom compared to other biplanes. The {{PAGENAME}} turns a bit worse than other biplanes, which is logical considering the powerful engine and heavy steel structure it features. This makes extended dogfights against other biplanes difficult, but should be avoidable by most {{PAGENAME}} players if speed is kept at an all-time high.

One large downside to this {{PAGENAME}} is the firepower. The Akan. m/40 are identical to the Italian guns found on the [[CR.42 (Family)|CR.42]]. Although the calibre is 12.7 mm, the Italian guns are quite lacklustre in performance due to the ammunition used. This requires the {{PAGENAME}} to put a lot of gun-time down compared to planes such as the [[J8A]], which is incredibly potent at dealing with biplanes. The guns do still have some tricks up their sleeve, especially when it comes to wing, and engine damage. The .50 cal ammunition can spread damage effectively, allowing for high wing-root damage, and the higher penetration and calibre size allows for additional damage to engine components, which are crucial at this BR.

{{Notice|The landing brakes used by the {{PAGENAME}} are incredibly powerful and puts the plane at risk of nosing over due to the heavy engine. Make sure to gently tap the brakes at lower speeds, in order to prevent the plane from potentially crashing!}}

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Controllable || Controllable Not auto controlled || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Controllable Not auto controlled || Separate || Not controllable 1 gear || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Nose mounted machine guns allow for better accuracy
* Air targets belts can easily shred biplanes and start fires
* High top speed
* Fixed landing gear makes landings easier

'''Cons:'''

* No flaps
* Longest turn time of all biplane fighters
* Loses speed quickly in turns
* Guns have worse penetration than 8 mm machine guns due to the lack of available ground targets ammo belt
* Fixed landing gear creates more drag

== History ==

The J11, also known as the Fiat C.R.42, is an Italian-made fighter that was bought and maintained by the Swedish Air force "Svenska Flygvapnet" in the late 1930's. As World War 2 broke out, the Swedish air force felt the necessity to increase its air defence and yet due to the ban on exporting weapons and war machines during the war the Air force was relying on older and less capable fighters. When Italy showed interest in selling the Fiat C.R.42 the Air force placed an order of 120 planes and named the aircraft "J11". While the plane was mainly used as a fighter, it could also serve as a scout/recon vehicle. During the war the J11 was already outdated and could not withstand the superior German fighters and it was made with poor quality forcing most of the aircraft to become scrap metal. Today, few stand unharmed or restored and are located in aircraft museums around Sweden.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=fiat_cr42_j11 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|rpp-GqXiaKg|'''The Shooting Range #214''' - ''Air Triathlon'' section at 09:59 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[C.R.42 (Family)]]

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/445727-fiat-cr42/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
* [https://www.flygvapenmuseum.se/samlingar/flygplan/flygvapenmuseum-linkoping/j-11--fiat-c.r.42/ <nowiki>[flugvapenmuseum.se]</nowiki> J 11 - Fiat C.R.42]

{{AirManufacturer Fiat}}
{{Sweden fighters}}

J6B

2023-12-27T20:23:38Z

U38249747: /* Belts */ typo edit

{{Specs-Card
|code=j6b
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
|cockpit=cockpit_j6b.jpg
}}

== Description ==

Designed and manufactured in Sweden during the early 1930s, the {{PAGENAME}} biplane fighter was the last biplane fighter to be designed in Sweden and the last variant of its series to be built. It was manufactured by ASJA from 1933 to 1935, but the core-design was originally constructed by Svenska Aero AB, which was purchased by ASJA in 1932. The {{PAGENAME}} served as a fighter aircraft in the Swedish air force between 1934 to 1938 and as a fighter-trainer from 1938 to 1940. Two {{PAGENAME}}s were sent to Finland as war aid during the Winter War. In Finland, they were designated JF, and served as trainers until 1945.

It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]], and though not a speedy aircraft compared to other reserve aircraft in the game, the {{PAGENAME}} features extremely good manoeuvrability and two nose-mounted 8 mm fast-firing machine guns which makes it extremely deadly in a skilled pilot's hands, but at the same time, also very forgiving to the new player. It has access to several ammunition belts which allow the {{PAGENAME}} to effectively fight both air and ground targets in air RB. The aircraft might not look impressive on paper, but any pilot with basic air combat knowledge can easily prove that this biplane fighter is no slouch. The great climb rate and manoeuvrability, in combination with some creativity, is all you need to perform and exceed in this aircraft

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 3,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 311 || 298 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 14.4 || 15.0 || 13.8 || 13.8 || rowspan="2" | 294
|-
! Upgraded
| 343 || 325 || 13.0 || 13.7 || 20.3 || 16.6
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| X || X || X || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || N/A || N/A || ~13 || ~6
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 250 || < 200 || < 320 || > 170
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


* No armour plating
* No armour glazing
* Critical components located in front of aircraft (fuel, pilot, engine, controls)

Like many aircraft just prior to the outbreak of World War II, the {{PAGENAME}} was not outfitted with any armour plating. The {{PAGENAME}} was designed during a time period when armour was not seen as viable, due to its added weight. The added weight of armour lowered climb-rate, speed, manoeuvrability, and range greatly due to the low power of most biplanes. Armour first started to appear during the later stages of the 1930s.

To maintain the centre of balance for this fighter, the pilot, fuel tank and engine take up the fuselage from the middle to the front. Any attacks on this aircraft in this zone risk hitting a critical component, ending the {{PAGENAME}}'s fight in the battle earlier than expected. With an open cockpit, fabric coverings and a mediocre engine, the survivability of this aircraft, for the most part, rests in the pilot's hands and their ability to out-fly the enemy pilots.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|Ksp m/22 Fh (8 mm)|Ksp m/22 Fv (8 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 8 mm Ksp m/22 Fh (fixed right) machine gun, nose-mounted (500 rpg)
* 1 x 8 mm Ksp m/22 Fv (fixed left) machine gun, nose-mounted (500 rpg)

The Swedish Air Force chose to outfit the {{PAGENAME}} with license-built copies of the FN Browning M1919 air cooled aircraft machine gun. These were designated kulspruta m/22 (originally flygplankulspruta m/22), or ksp m/22 for short, in Sweden and were originally chambered for the Swedish 6.5x55 m/94 cartridge. But as this cartridge was seen as too weak against aircraft by 1930, a more powerful 8x63 mm cartridge was introduced in 1932. This cartridge, which went under the designation 8 mm sk ptr m/32 (8 mm skarp patron m/32 - 8 mm live cartridge m/32), was extremely powerful compared to similar cartridges around the world.

==== Gun placement ====
Both guns are mounted in the upper cowling and fire synchronized through the propeller arc. This makes it very easy to aim with the {{PAGENAME}}, as the bullets always flies in the same line as the aircraft. Aircraft with wing mounted guns are much harder to aim, as they have to deal with convergence calculations to hit aircraft. Bullet drop over distance is still a consideration.

Typically in biplanes, the most effective range for disabling or destroying another aircraft is around 100 to 250 m, although reliable damage can be sent out to 600 m or more with a potent pilot. Many ace pilots from all sides of the war stated that when the enemy filled the windscreen, there was no way you could not hit, thereby guaranteeing a hit and conserving ammunition.

===== Effect =====
The fire-rate of the {{PAGENAME}}'s guns are an above-average 1,200 rounds per minute. This is an ideal fire rate, as it is high enough to deal a high amount of damage per minute, but at the same time allow for longer bursts of fire before overheating. The ammunition amount of 500 rounds per gun is also within the ideal for this fire rate. 1,200 rounds per minute means 20 shots per second which in return means that it takes 25 seconds to fire through a full magazine. 25 seconds is more than enough for 4-5 kills if all shots connect. The average burst time before the guns starts to overheat is about 5-6 seconds, which is more than enough time to tear a plane apart.

==== Belts ====
The {{PAGENAME}} has access to 7 belt types. The default belt and ground target belts are effectively the same, as they use the same composition of bullets, except that the order is different. Due to this, there is no reason to use the ground targets belts. The same deal goes for the universal belt and air targets belt. They both share the same composition of bullets, just in a different order.

There are 4 belts which are of use for the average player.

* '''Tracers''': This belt is very effective against other biplanes, especially those that have fabric coverings and non-self-sealing fuel tanks. Tracer bullets, due to their phosphor tracer load, have a good chance of setting unprotected planes on fire. This is a good combination at rank I, as a lot of planes lack self-sealing fuel tanks.
* '''Air targets/Universal''': These belts contain 1 tracer bullet, one armour-piercing bullet and 2 incendiary bullets. As noted previously the tracer bullets are good at setting biplanes on fire. The incendiary bullets are good at setting full-metal monoplanes on fire.
* '''Stealth''': These belts lack a tracer bullet and only consist of armour-piercing and incendiary. Due to this they are ideal for attacking unsuspecting targets, as they cannot see the strings of bullets flying out from your machine guns. On the other hand, neither can you. The way to use stealth is to know the projectile paths by heart so you can calculate the trajectory without tracers. A lot of seasoned players uses stealth belts as they find tracers annoying and misleading.
* '''Armoured targets''': This belt apparently uses tungsten bullets instead of steel. This gives it an impressive penetration of 18 mm at 500 m. This is enough to penetrate some light tanks from the side or from the top. Although, the bullets do minor damage at best. It is possible to engage light pillboxes and light tanks with this belt, unlike the rest.

== Usage in battles ==

The J6B is one of Sweden's reserve aircraft, it is a great introduction to the Swedish aviation tree and it is able to compete with other planes. Like most other reserve aircraft, it lacks speed, armour protection and firepower.

The J6B can be used like any other biplane, thanks to its good manoeuvrability. The J6B takes a while to get to the desired speed to be manoeuvrable enough to repel attackers. It might look like an easy prey, but the J6B's Ksps machine guns are powerful and can make even enemy aircraft at higher BRs regret their decision.

Most notable enemies to be aware of are the [[He 100 D-1]], the [[I-16 (Family)|I-16]], the [[I-153 M-62]], the [[Ki-43 (Family)|Ki-43]] and the [[H-75A-4]].

'''Ground Battles'''

The J6B is effective in ground battles. The 8 mm [[Ksp m/22 (8 mm)|Ksp m/22]] pack a hard punch, having a great penetration capability of 18 mm at 500 m, and 20 mm at 100 m making it a decent at ground battles being able to keep up with the [[M2 Browning (12.7 mm)|M2 Browning]] in the early tiers, in terms of penetration power. That is useful against enemy tanks that have a lightly-armoured top, making them easy targets for the J6B to attack the tank's roof weak spots. The J6B is relatively slow, making it an easy target for low-tier SPAA like [[M13 MGMC]], [[P.7.T AA]] and [[Flakpanzer I]].

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Controllable || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Separate || Not controllable 1 gear || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Great handling characteristics
* Good climb rate
* Nose mounted armament
* High rate of fire for main guns
* Large ammunition amount
* Large choice of ammunition belts for main guns
* Self-sealing fuel tanks

'''Cons:'''

* Below-average speed near the ground, slow level flight
* Weak armament against full metal aircraft
* Unprotected

== History ==


The {{PAGENAME}} is a Swedish designed and manufactured biplane fighter from the early 1930s. It was the last biplane fighter to be designed in Sweden and the last version of its aircraft-model to be built. Its designer and manufacturer, AB Svenska Järnvägsverkstädernas Aeroplanavdelning (The Swedish iron-works aeroplane department Ltd)(ASJA for short), acquired the base-model when they bought the company Svenska Aero AB (Swedish Aero Ltd)(SA for short) in 1932. Svenska Aero AB had designed and manufactured 3 previous iterations of the {{PAGENAME}} during a 4-year period prior to their acquisition by ASJA in 1932.

To get a good understanding of the {{PAGENAME}}'s history it is necessary to tell the history of its original designer, Svenska Aero AB as well as its previous iterations.

'''Svenska Aero AB'''

Svenska Aero AB was founded in 1921 as a response to the limitations put on the German aviation industry after WWI. Germany was not allowed to export military aircraft which led to a lot of German aviation companies and engineers to move work abroad. One of these were the German pilot and aviation-enthusiast Carl Clemens Bücker, known today for his popular WWII trainer aircraft such as the Bü 131 och Bü 133.

Carl Clemens Bücker had been a marine pilot in WWI, a time period where he among others had befriended Ernst Heinkel. In 1920 after the war, Bücker moved to Sweden in hope of starting an aviation company. After a year in Sweden, Bücker acquired Swedish citizenship and became a pilot for the Swedish torpedo department of Stockholm, as well as an adviser for the Swedish navy air corps. As a starter to his planned aviation company, Bücker planned to buy a reconnaissance aircraft from German company Caspar-Werke, which would then be smuggled to Sweden in parts. To make the purchase easier, Bücker would first have to found his aviation company, which he did with a bit of help from Ernst Heinkel. Once the company was created Bücker quit his job as an adviser for the Swedish navy to become the CEO and sole manager of the company.

The new company was named Svenska Aero AB and operated from the municipality Lidingö in Stockholm. Svenska Aero AB initially built planes under license from Caspar-Werke and Heinkel but the manufacturing capability of Svenska Aero AB was at the start very limited and the first planes built by the company were in fact fabricated secretly in Germany by Caspar-Werke or Heinkel and later put together by the Swedish torpedo department of Stockholm were Bücker had connections. Eventually though, around 1927, the company instituted their own construction department with the intent to construct in-house designs. A Swedish airplane constructor by the name of Sven Blomberg was hired as chief designer. Blomberg had previously worked for Heinkel Flugzeugwerke in Germany.

'''SA-11 Jaktfalken (J5)'''

Once the construction department was set up the company initiated the construction of 2 aircraft which they intended to propose to the newly formed Swedish air force. One of these was a fighter which they came to name Jaktfalken (the Gyrfalcon).

In 1928, Svenska Aero AB on their own initiative asked the Swedish air force for some preliminary guidelines for a fighter aircraft with the intent that they would develop such an aircraft for the Swedish air force at their own expense. The Swedish air force agreed and gave some basic specifications for what they wanted. Upon receiving these specifications Svenska Aero AB started a private venture to develop this fighter. As the company had deep ties to Heinkel a lot of design elements were taken directly from their aircraft. Svenska Aero also took a lot of inspiration from other fighter aircraft of the era.

The end product became known as SA-11 Jaktfalken (The Gyrfalcon), a conventional biplane fighter based on a mixed construction of fabric covered steel tubes and aluminium plates. The engine was an Armstrong Siddeley Jaguar radial engine with 500 hp. This propelled the SA-11 up to a maximum speed of 285 km/h. A prototype was finished in 1929 and was flight ready by fall that year. The Swedish air force was impressed with Svenska Aero AB's fighter aircraft and wanted to test the prototype at the Svea air force wing in Barkarby. The Swedish air force test pilot Nils Söderberg was selected to fly the aircraft during this test. The first flights were problem free and after one of the landings Nils Söderberg commented that it was the best aircraft he had ever flown. Not long after, on the 11th of november 1929, the SA-11 was demonstrated before Swedish authorities and press who all noted how good of an aircraft it was. After this the Swedish air force decided to acquire 3 Jaktfalken-planes, the initial prototype as well as 2 improved ones. These would then be used in trials against 3 Bristol Bulldogs Mk.IIs the air force planned to acquire.

On the 9th of February 1930, the SA-11 prototype was purchased by the Swedish air force and given the designation J5, J standing for Jakt (Pursuit) and 5 meaning that it was the fifth registered fighter aircraft of the Swedish air force. ''(A note of interest is that the Swedish air force at this time numbered aircraft types based on their role. For example J1, J2, J3 and B1, B2, B3 etc. This was seen as somewhat problematic when planes changed roles. For example S7 was changed into B4. After 1940 that system was scrapped and numbers were given to each main aircraft type, for example Fpl 20, Fpl 21, Fpl 22, starting from the number 15. This way planes could easily be re-designated in case they had to change role. For example B18 > S18, or J29 > A29.)''

'''SA-14 Jaktfalkten I (J6)'''

By February 1930, the Swedish air force decided that the 2 improved Jaktfalken-planes were to use Bristol Jupiter VI engines which required Svenska Aero AB to modify the design in various ways. These aircraft were named SA-14 Jaktfalken I (The Gyrfalcon 1) internally and received the designation J6 in the Swedish air force. An order for 5 more J6s soon followed for more testing.

Initial tests with the J6 showed complications with vibrations in the tail section. Both Svenska Aero AB and the Swedish air force's own production facilities tried to fix the problem without success. Despite this all aircraft entered service. Once the ordered Bristol Bulldogs had arrived in Sweden it was time for trials between them and the J6. The Bristol Bulldog formally entered service as the J7 in the Swedish air force. Trials between the J6 and J7 showed that the J6 had superior manoeuvrability and was easier to fly compared to the J7. However due to the limited production capacity of Svenska Aero AB the Swedish air force realized that they could never adopt the J6 in sufficient numbers. They tried to buy a license from Svenska Aero AB to produce the J6 in their own facilities but Svenska Aero AB turned it down. Due to this the Swedish air force decided in May 1931 to buy 8 improved Bristol Bulldog Mk.IIA-planes (J7A) to fulfil their needs. This prompted Svenska Aero AB to design an improved SA-14 for the air force to test.

'''SA-14 Jaktfalkten II (J6A & {{PAGENAME}})'''

The improved SA-14 got the name Jaktfalken II and featured a more powerful Jupiter VIIF engine as well an improved fuselage and landing gear. The Swedish air force decided to order 3 copies of Jaktfalken II for trials in late 1931. At this stage Svenska Aero AB was losing money due to the low orders from the Swedish air force. This prompted Bücker to sell the company to ASJA in 1932, after which he returned to Germany where he would found the much more successful Bücker Flugzeugbau aviation company.

The Swedish air force was however not finished with the J6 design. The Bristol Bulldog (J7) had shown itself to be a problematic design and 3 out of 11 aircraft had been destroyed within 2 years of entering service. On top of that the aircraft was prone to failure and almost every J7 in use had crash landed on at least one occasion. (A note of interest is that only two out of the original eleven J7s survived by the end of 1936) The J6s on the other hand had proven themselves as safe aircraft with only 1 destroyed by the summer of 1933. Due to this the Swedish air force ordered 7 improved Jaktfalken II aircraft from ASJA who now owned the design. ASJA further improved on the J6A design by modifying the windscreen and elevator which meant that the aircraft had to be considered a separate variant from the J6A. Due to this the 7 new planes got the designation {{PAGENAME}}.

'''{{PAGENAME}} service life'''

The {{PAGENAME}} entered service with the Swedish air force in 1934 with the last aircraft being delivered in 1935. In service the {{PAGENAME}} would serve with the F1 air force wing where it would initially be used as a fighter before being relegated to a fighter-trainer in 1938. By this time the {{PAGENAME}} was hopelessly outdated even as a fighter trainer and by 1940 the planes were put in storage and eventually scrapped in 1941.

However, two {{PAGENAME}}s and one J6A were donated as war aid to Finland during the winter war. In Finnish service they would be re-designated to JF (for '''J'''akt'''f'''alken) and used as trainers. Finland would continue to use the JF until 1945 when they were all pulled from service and scrapped.

=== [[wt:en/news/6486-development-j6b-jaktfalken-ii-falcon-from-the-north-en|Devblog]] ===
Researching any game nation in War Thunder begins with its reserves, and that's why we've chosen this aircraft as today's guest: the pre-war J6B Jaktfalken II ("gyrfalcon") biplane fighter from Svenska Aero AB. This aircraft's story began in 1930, when Swedish company Svenska Aero AB released the J5 Jaktfalken fighter. The J5 was adequate, but nothing special compared to the foreign models being released in Sweden under license. The one thing the world's air forces truly lacked was training aircraft. Svenska Aero AB rushed to modify the J5 and converted it to a training fighter. The prototype was given the in-house designation SA14 but in the Swedish Air Force it was named the J6 Jaktfalken I, and it entered testing in 1930. A total of seven aircraft were built and joined the F5 lineup.

In the summer of 1931, the Swedish Air Force approved the production of three more Jaktfalken I fighter aircraft. The new vehicles were completely reworked in comparison to the previous model. They were produced in 1932 and put into service under the designation J6A.

The J6B appeared a little later, when the Swedish government ordered seven more aircraft. These in turn also underwent a lot of improvements. The new series was put into service in Sweden in 1935, and all the aircraft were retired by 1941.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=j6b Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Images
<gallery mode="packed" heights="150">
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File:J6B WTWallpaper 002.jpg|
File:J6B WTWallpaper 003.jpg|
File:J6B WTWallpaper 004.jpg|
File:J6B WTWallpaper 005.jpg|
File:J6B WTWallpaper 006.jpg|
</gallery>

== See also ==


;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

* Hawker [[Nimrod Mk I|Nimrod]]
* Heinkel [[He 51 (Family)|He 51]]
* Kawasaki [[Ki-10 (Family)|Ki-10]]
* Fiat [[CR.32 (Family)|CR.32]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6486-development-j6b-jaktfalken-ii-falcon-from-the-north-en|[Development] J6B Jaktfalken II - Falcon from the North]]
* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/474727-j6b/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]

{{AirManufacturer Saab}}
{{Sweden fighters}}

S.M.79 serie 1

2023-12-27T20:08:23Z

U38249747: /* Usage in battles */ minor spelling edit

{{About
| about = Italian bomber '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = S.M.79 (Family)
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|code=sm_79_1936_italy
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"]], though a variant existed in the Germany aircraft tech tree prior to the update.

Due to its relatively low Battle Rating, the three-engined S.M.79 serie 1 enjoys a relatively high speed for a bomber against most of the lower tiered opposition it faces. This aids its survivability, particularly in a shallow dive. Unfortunately, it is rather lacking in bombload options compared to the He 111s and Ju 88s and also has rather poor defensive fire arcs.

Unlike the German bombers, however, it is armed with 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns which can pack quite a punch against the flimsier aircraft it faces. The pilot also controls a fixed forward-firing 12.7 mm Breda, which is otherwise uncovered by any defensive armament. This gun can be useful for strafing light vehicles and trucks that will be encountered frequently in low tier battles and can be used to shoot down other aircraft. It is somewhat more manoeuvrable than the He 111 H-3, but the Sparviero is by no means a fighter and will rapidly lose energy in turns. With the ability to carry 500 kg bombs, the S.M.79 can use these to more easily take out pillboxes and heavier tanks, although this reduces the total bombload to only 1,000 kg as opposed to 1,250 kg with 250 kg bombs.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 4,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 416 || 404 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 32.6 || 33.6 || 4.5 || 4.4 || rowspan="2" | 450
|-
! Upgraded
| 444 || 430 || 30.4 || 31.6 || 7.8 || 5.9
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 313 || 298 || 220 || ~4 || ~2
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 260 || < 270 || < 270 || > 290
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 3,400 m || 740 hp || N/A
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


* No armour
* Self-sealing fuel tanks (1 under dorsal gunner, 1 in each wingroot, 1 in each outer part of the wing, 1 in the rear of each engine nacelle)

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|Breda-SAFAT (12.7 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, dorsal-mounted (350 rpg)

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|GP 50 (50 kg)|GP 100 (100 kg)|GP 250 (250 kg)|GP 500 (500 kg)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* 12 x 50 kg GP 50 bombs (600 kg total)
* 12 x 100 kg GP 100 bombs (1,200 kg total)
* 5 x 250 kg GP 250 bombs (1,250 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg GP 500 bombs (1,000 kg total)

=== Defensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Defensive}}

{{main|Breda-SAFAT (12.7 mm)|Lewis (7.7 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by:

* 1 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, dorsal turret (500 rpg)
* 1 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, ventral turret (500 rpg)
* 1 x 7.7 mm Lewis machine gun, 2 x beam turrets (485 rpg)

== Usage in battles ==

S.M.79 serie 1 is a decent bomber at its BR and below, but it faces many threats, for example [[Spitfire (Family)|Spitfires]], [[LaGG-3 (Family)|LaGG-3s]], [[MiG-3 (Family)|MiG-3s]] and [[P-40 (Family)|P-40s]].

If the S.M.79 manage to get past the threats, it has the payload to take out enemy bomb points and ground targets, with its bomber spawn it can descend to get extra speed to quickly get to the bombing point, those this will also expose it to enemy fighters and attackers that have the firepower to destroy the S.M.79 with ease in both Realistic and Arcade battles.

A big drawback with the S.M.79 is that it's big and not fast or agile compared to certain bombers at same BR but if it is able to pass through enemy line it can cause a lot of damage to the points. It has 2 x 12.7 mm Breda MGs aiming backwards in a limited field of view making a lot of the plane uncovered by the MGs, as well as 2 x 7.7 mm Breda MGs on the sides, also with limited views, leaving a lot of the plane unprotected.

S.M.79 also has an offensive 12.7 mm which can do damage to enemy fighters or bombers, if one has a well trained aim, it can be a dangerous weapon to the S.M.79's advantage. The problem with the 12.7 mm is its slow rate of fire compared to other 12.7 mm and a low count of 350 rounds in the gun.

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil !! Water !! Type
|-
| Not controllable || Controllable Not auto controlled || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Not controllable Not auto controlled || Separate || Not controllable 1 gear || Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Hard-hitting 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT defensive machine guns.
* Pilot-controlled fixed forward-firing 12.7 mm Breda, which can be equipped with IAI (explosive) ammunition.
* Good speed.
* Middle engine provides some level of protection for the pilot against head-on attacks.
* Capable of carrying 500 kg bombs, unlike the [[He 111 H-3]] or [[Do 17 Z-2]].

'''Cons:'''

* Very limited bomb payload compared to the He 111 H-3 which has 1,250 kg max.
* Poor defensive fire arcs, including a dead-zone in the rear where neither of the rearward facing 12.7 mm machine guns can cover.
* No frontal defensive gun covering the frontal aspect.
* Lacks armour protection for the crew.
* Forced to choose between less total bomb payload, but individually more powerful bombs or higher total bomb payload with less powerful bombs.

== History ==

Alessandro Marchettí was famous for creating record breaking and Schneider Trophy winning racing seaplanes, and was the Savoia (aka SIAI, Società Idrovolanti Alta Italia). In 1922 Marchettí joined Savoia to form one of the great aircraft companies in history, until merged in 1983. After the conclusion of the Schneider Trophy race (won by UK), the firm used its experience to build fast aircraft for civilian and military use.

You probably saw the very similar looking Italian S.81 in game, which was a militarized version of the successful S.73. The S.M.79 was new passenger version based on the planform of its predecessor; the most obvious difference was retractable landing gear. It was truly made first as a passenger version to compete with those being made by other countries. Needless to say, it immediately attracted attention of the Regina Italia and a bomber version was developed in parallel. For a few brief months it was considered the best transport and bomber in world and became a major point of pride in Fascist Italy and was sold to several countries in the years before WW2.

Unlike nearly every bomber in War Thunder (and even in WW2), it was built mainly of steel a wood! The fuselage was a common for time welded steel tube design, with entire rear half being covered in cloth and plywood. The crew area to nose was duralumin cladded (which is very similar to Hawker Hurricane’s construction). Most surprising the wings are completely wood! A major technical achievement for its size. During its production life several engines where tried, depending on power and reliability, one model even removing the nose engine.

To make the S.M.79 fast the wings are shorter than typical for its weight. To compensate for higher clean stall speed a number of advanced high lift devices were used to reduce stall speed for landing, being Handley-Page leading extending slats and drooping ailerons (also called “flaperons”) in conjunction with uncommon slotted flaps. After trying a few engines, the Alfa Romeo 126 was used on the prototypes for testing and the record breaking flights soon after. As with the S.M.73 / S.81, once again the Italian military wanted a bomber version and laid out proposed additions.

''Sparviero goes to war''

''The spacious cabin was easy to install a set of bomb racks, all bombs mounted vertically (not unusual for time). While the S.81 had the bomb aimers position just behind the nose-mounted engine, the S.M.79 positioned it in a ventral “tub” well after of the bomb bay itself. Also unlike the S.81 this streamlined tub also became the location of the ventral defensive gun, usually a 12.7 mm Breda-SAFT MG instead of a turret. A streamlined dorsal mount was also installed for a rear firing 12.7 mm MG, and unusually for bombers a fixed, pilot fired forward mounted 12.7 mm MG, firing above the propeller disk. Both these streamlined protrusions could be closed to greatly minimize drag for a very high cruise speed, which the turreted S.81 could not. It was the prominent hump on its top that earned the nickname "il gobbo maledetto" ("damned hunchback"). Italy was open to export sales, and many countries purchased this top of line bomber to add to their forces.''

''From the high of the Spanish Civil War to the end of WW2, the Sparviero was the backbone of Italian bomber air forces and continued to do well over the vast stretches of the Mediterranean sea despite better allied defenses. Success was made despite high losses up to the Italian Armistice. They continued to be used in lesser roles on both sides of the conflict, and after the war were used for various duties by several nations for years later. Lebanon was the last operator who used them well in the 1950’s and are the last 2 remaining S.M.79 in world.''

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=sm_79_1936_italy Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/87331-savoia-marchetti-sm79-1936/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]

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{{Italy bombers}}