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MiG-21bis

2024-11-04T20:21:24Z

U36730855: Mig 21 has horrible energy retention.

{{About
| about = Soviet jet fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = MiG-21 (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=mig-21_bis
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
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== Description ==

In 1972, in parallel to the [[MiG-21SMT]] and ST variants, a full overhaul of the MiG-21 airframe was being developed around the new Tumansky R-25 engine, which promised a thrust-to-weight ratio of over 1 on full second-stage afterburner when mated to a lightened MiG-21 airframe. The resulting design was given updated avionics and other modernizations, before entering service as the MiG-21bis, the ultimate culmination of the third-generation Fishbed. The MiG-21bis was quickly adopted in the USSR by both the PVO and the VVS, with one minor difference for the two operators. The PVO-flown MiG-21bis was fitted with a Lazur-M GCI (Ground Controlled Interception) guidance system, whereas the VVS-operated variant had a Polyot-OI instrument landing and guidance system outfitted, with the only visual difference between the two variants being a single small antenna under the forward fuselage. The two variants in export were respectively designated as the [[MiG-21 "Lazur-M" (Germany)|MiG-21bis Lazur-M]] (Fishbed-L) and the [[MiG-21bis-SAU (Germany)|MiG-21bis-SAU]] (Fishbed-N) to differentiate them.

Introduced in [[Update "New Power"]], the MiG-21bis is the ultimate Soviet development of the MiG-21. It looks roughly the same as the [[MiG-21S (R-13-300)|MiG-21S]] and [[MiG-21MF (Germany)|MiG-21MF]], both being third-generation MiG-21 models with search radars, internal [[GSh-23-2 (23 mm)|GSh-23]] cannons, and pronounced fuselage spines. However, the similarities end there, as under the hood, the MiG-21bis is a completely new beast. The most important upgrades are the new addition of the new R-25-300 engine, giving this aircraft increased thrust over its older variants. The other major upgrade to the MiG-21bis is its fire control system, which now allows it to not only use the [[R-13M1]] missile, but also the ability to mount the APU-60-2 pylons which can carry twice as many [[R-60M]]s on one hardpoint. All in all, people who enjoyed previous Fishbeds for their incredible dogfight performance, and built upon the mastery of working around both the disadvantages and advantages of the Fishbed airframes, will find this aircraft to be very enjoyable to fly, as what it lacks in BVR and strong missiles at its battle rating, are easily outweighed by the lightened airframe and relatively powerful engine allowing it to punish most planes that engage it in unconditional close-range dogfighting at low altitude, bar some specific planes.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


The {{PAGENAME}} has above-average acceleration and high-speed performance. Firstly, the aircraft is quite fast, being able to reach 1365 km/h IAS on the deck (at low altitudes) before its wings rip, this translates to above-average level-flight speeds at medium to high altitudes. However, like all other MiG-21s, the {{PAGENAME}}, whilst being able to turn well, it tends to bleed speed at an alarming rate during turns. Extended dogfights should therefore be avoided unless you are absolutely sure you are able to outturn your opponent, as the {{PAGENAME}} will often end up on the losing side.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 13,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 2,177 || 2,142 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 37.8 || 38.8 || 191.0 || 179.8 || rowspan="2" | 750
|-
! Upgraded
| 2,305 || 2,240 || 36.4 || 37.0 || 262.7 || 225.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| X || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || ✓ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || 500 || 450 || ~12 || ~6
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 650 || < 600 || < 950 || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | Tumansky R-25-300 || 1
| colspan="2" | 6,132 kg || colspan="3" | 371 kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 34m fuel
|-
| 1,140 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
| 6,852 kg || 7,532 kg || 8,232 kg || 8,532 kg || 10,000 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 34m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 4,040 kgf || 7,344 kgf
| 1.07 || 0.98 || 0.89 || 0.86 || 0.73
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 4,040 kgf (0 km/h) || 9,068 kgf (1,200 km/h)
| 1.32 || 1.20 || 1.10 || 1.06 || 0.91
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}


* 60 mm bulletproof glass - armoured windscreen
* 10 mm steel - bulkhead behind pilot
* Engine and fuel tanks take up most of the fuselage area behind the cockpit

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Cross}} || {{Cross}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|GSh-23L (23 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 1 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannon, belly-mounted (250 rpg)
* 64 x countermeasures

The 23 mm GSh-23L are adequate cannons, firing at a high rate of fire. However, the individual rounds from the cannons have a low stopping power, necessitating many hits on target to destroy them.

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}


The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! !! width="9%" | 1 !! width="9%" | 2 !! width="9%" | 3 !! width="9%" | 4 !! width="9%" | 5
| rowspan="13" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_{{PAGENAME}}.png]]</div>
|-
! [[OFAB-100 (100 kg)|100 kg OFAB-100]] bombs
| || 4 || || 4 ||
|-
! [[FAB-250M-62 (250 kg)|250 kg FAB-250M-62]] bombs
| || 1 || || 1 ||
|-
! [[FAB-500M-62 (500 kg)|500 kg FAB-500M-62]] bombs
| || 1 || || 1 ||
|-
! [[ZB-500 incendiary]] bombs
| || 1 || || 1 ||
|-
! [[S-5K]] rockets
| 16 || 16, 32 || || 16, 32 || 16
|-
! [[S-24]] rockets
| 1 || 1 || || 1 || 1
|-
! [[R-3R]] missiles
| 1 || 1 || || 1 || 1
|-
! [[R-3S]] missiles
| 1 || 1 || || 1 || 1
|-
! [[R-13M1]] missiles
| 1 || 1 || || 1 || 1
|-
! [[R-60M]] missiles
| 1, 2 || 1 || || 1 || 1, 2
|-
! 490 l drop tanks
| 1 || || 1 || || 1
|-
| colspan="6" | Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 570 kg
|-
|}

{{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
{{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}

* 3 x 490 l drop tanks
* 1 x 490 l drop tank + 2 x R-60M missiles
* 4 x R-3S missiles
* 4 x R-3R missiles
* 4 x R-13M1 missiles
* 4 x R-60M missiles
* 6 x R-60M missiles
* 64 x S-5K rockets
* 64 x S-5K rockets
* 4 x S-24 rockets
* 8 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (800 kg total)
* 2 x 250 kg FAB-250M-62 bombs (500 kg total)
* 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (1,000 kg total)
* 2 x ZB-500 incendiary bombs
{{Navigation-End}}

== Usage in battles ==


The main things to remember about this plane is that it is fairly manoeuvrable at high speeds and it accelerates quickly and climbs pretty well. In a combat situation, you should avoid flying slower than 800 km/h, as your plane loses a significant amount of thrust and manoeuvrability at speeds lower than that.

Here's how you would want to use this plane to its advantages depending of the state of the game you're in:

At the beginning, climb at a low angle (around 5-10 degrees) and watch your radar for any enemies flying high, it is recommended you stay at lower altitudes and keep a relatively high speed (between 900 to 1300 km/h) so that you can turn away from an enemy locking you with their radar/shooting a missile at you. If the enemy you have located is isolated/not paying attention, engage it and use either your missiles or gun to engage it. Try not to lose too much speed as your plane relies on it. don't forget to look around for any incoming threat.

Towards the mid or end-game, keep flying fast and avoid wasting speed in turns. Use Boom-N-Run tactics (fly towards a target at high speed, engage them quickly and run away) and assist the team with any problematic enemies. If you find a lonely target you can dogfight with, go for it as long as you don't have any other enemy nearby, as extended dogfights with the MiG-21bis tend to leave it very vulnerable to enemy fire.

In summary: the MiG-21bis is best used in Boom-N-Run tactics for most of the game unless your target is not very manoeuvrable, then you can turnfight with them.

Since your main missiles will usually be R-60Ms, try to fire them relatively close to the enemy (between 2 km to 0.5 km). If you're engaging a target flying at high speeds, the minimum distance of engagement will be < 2 kilometres, if your enemy is farther/flying away, try using R-13M1s instead.

'''Enemies to beware of:'''

* F-16A early (Block 10): Amongst the highest BR enemy you can fight if you're in a maximum downtier. This plane is your absolute nemesis as it can counter you in every way. It flies faster than you, it turns better than you and climbs better than you. If you spot an F-16A Block 10, your best strategy would be to try to destroy it from a surprise angle or team up on it with your teammates to destroy it. If you find yourself being targeted by an F-16A Block 10, try to stay fast and do short periodical vertical manoeuvres to throw its aim off. Don't forget to pre-flare if you're flying too slowly as its AIM-9L missiles can spell doom to you. Try to have teammates back you up in these situations, as it is unlikely you will be able to defeat a F-16A Block 10 in a 1v1 dogfight.
* F-14 (A Early/B): Another nemesis you can frequently encounter, but you can beat it. Its AIM-54 Phoenix missiles can destroy you at extreme ranges if you're not paying attention, if you find yourself in BVR range against a F-14, you can be easy prey to its AIM-7F missiles unless you counter them (either by flying very close to the ground or by notching and chaffing). When engaging in close-quarters fights against a F-14, one should take notice that the F-14 is rather manoeuvrable and can beat the MiG-21bis in a continuous turnfight. The best strategy against a F-14 is to make it lose its speed by doing burst climbs and re-descending upon it when it is at its slowest.
* F-4E: Whilst not being as nimble, a skilled F-4E player can easily destroy you. At BVR ranges, you are prey to the F-4E's radar missiles (as you would with any other enemy) but at close ranges, the F-4E can keep up with you in turns as long as it is flying at medium to high speeds (800-1200 km/h).It is possible to beat an F-4E in a sustained dogfight, just make sure you're alone to do it. Overall, the best strategy again an F-4E is, yet again, to bleed its speed with burst climbs and re-engage when it is at its slowest.

=== Radars ===

The {{PAGENAME}} is equipped with a Sapphire-21 search and tracking radar. The radar is mounted in the nose of the aircraft.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="4" | Sapphire-21 - Target Detection Radar
|-
! {{Annotation|Maximum Detection Range|The maximum possible range at which a target can be detected}}
! {{Annotation|Guaranteed Detection Range|The range, below which, detection of a target is practically guaranteed}}
! {{Annotation|Max Azimuth Scan Angle|How far to each side the radar can scan (widest search mode)}}
! {{Annotation|Max Elevation Scan Angle|How far up and down the radar can scan (widest search mode)}}
|-
| 30,000 m (theoretical) || 20,000 m || ±30° || -3°/+17°
|-
! colspan="4" | Sapphire-21 - Target Tracking Radar
|-
! {{Annotation|Maximum Tracking Range|The maximum range at which a target can be tracked}}
! {{Annotation|Minimum Tracking Range|The range below which targets cannot be tracked by the radar}}
! {{Annotation|Azimuth Tracking Angle|How far to each side the radar can track a target}}
! {{Annotation|Elevation Tracking Angle|How far up and down the radar can track a target}}
|-
| 20,000 m || 300 m || ±30° || ±17°
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Impressive climb rate of 225 m/s, making this plane the second-best top-rank climber behind the [[F-104S]] and above the Phantom FGR.2 and FG.1
* Increased flight performance compared to earlier MiG-21s
* Excels against both aerial and ground targets
* Has access to flares that are fired downwards, which means that missiles can be more easily evaded
* Stunning acceleration
* Can wield six potent all-aspect R-60M air-to-air missiles
* Huge thrust to weight ratio

'''Cons:'''

* As all MiG-21s, it tends to bleed speed in turns, though not as much, thanks to the improved engine
* Vicious rudder lock at speeds above 700 km/h, can be frustrating when trying to get guns on target
* Pretty bad low speed manoeuvrability
* Doesn't respond well to wing damage - if a wingtip is lost, landing this plane will be very difficult, and if a wing is lost, the plane should be considered as lost
* Poor energy retention

== History ==

=== [[wt:en/news/6903-development-mig-21bis-ultimate-fishbed-en|Devblog]] ===
By the late 1960's, the Soviet high command sought to increase the effectiveness of the MiG-21 jet fighter, especially at lower altitudes, while at the same time knowing that this could only be achieved by developing a more powerful engine for it. As a result, in 1971, the order to develop what would essentially become the MiG-21bis was issued by the Soviet high command.

As both the power plant manufacturer - Tumansky - as well as the MiG aircraft design bureau were already working on improvements, this order only officially recognized their work, and as a result, by 1972 the MiG-21bis was ready.

Unlike preceding variants, the MiG-21bis managed to strike a balance between performance and endurance. Additionally, the aircraft was fitted with an improved radar and a systems monitor, which made maintenance substantially easier. Furthermore, the maximum number of missiles the aircraft could carry was increased to six while it also received the option to carry the new R-13M air-to-air missile with increased range, higher G-loading and better seeker tracking over the preceding R-3S. Very manoeuvrable R-60M missiles can be carried as well.

The first MiG-21bis was constructed in 1972 and was adopted into service in the same year. Well over 2,200 units of the MiG-21bis would be manufactured, including licence-built versions. The MiG-21bis was one of the most widely produced variants of the aircraft and saw widespread use with numerous operators around the globe. In fact, some modernized modifications are still in combat use today.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=mig-21_bis Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Images
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File:MiG-21bis WTWallpaper 002.jpg|
File:MiG-21bis WTWallpaper 003.jpg|
File:MiG-21bis WTWallpaper 004.jpg|
File:MiG-21bis WTWallpaper 005.jpg|
File:MiG-21bis WTWallpaper 006.jpg|
File:MiG-21bis WTWallpaper 007.jpg|
File:MiG-21bis WTWallpaper 008.jpg|
</gallery>

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|Zt6JJt5uYgs|'''The Shooting Range #228''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:25 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6903-development-mig-21bis-ultimate-fishbed-en|[Devblog] MiG-21bis: Ultimate Fishbed]]
* [https://www.skytamer.com/MiG-21bis.html [skytamer<nowiki>.com]</nowiki> Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21bis "Fishbed-L"] ([https://web.archive.org/web/20210507145332/https://www.skytamer.com/MiG-21bis.html Web Archive])
* [https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/mig-21.htm [fas<nowiki>.org]</nowiki> MiG-21 FISHBED] ([https://web.archive.org/web/20210507145535/https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/mig-21.htm Web Archive])

{{AirManufacturer MiG}}
{{USSR jet aircraft}}

SARC MkIVa

2024-11-03T17:44:00Z

U36730855: Roof armour has a middle gap with no protection.

{{About
| about = British light tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = Marmon-Herrington Armoured Car (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=uk_sarc_mk4_a
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage2_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
}}

== Description ==

The SARC (South African Reconnaissance Car) series of armoured vehicles, known in British service as the Marmon-Herrington Armoured Car, was developed by South Africa on order from the British military in 1938. The vehicles were assembled in South African factories using components from the USA, Britain, and South Africa itself. Despite being accepted into service with the British Army, they were never actually used in combat by the British, who preferred their own domestically produced armoured cars. SARC vehicles were also in service with the armies of Cyprus, Egypt, India, Poland, and a number of other countries. They took part in the 1948 Arab-Israeli War and during the Turkish invasion of Cyprus in the summer of 1974. A total of 5,746 SARC armoured vehicles of all modifications were produced.

The most widespread modification of the SARC armoured cars was the '''SARC Mk IV'''. Over 2,000 units were produced between 1943 and 1944. The vehicle was developed specifically for British forces fighting in North Africa; however, the North African campaign ended before it could enter service. Unlike previous modifications equipped with machine gun and rifle armament, the Mk IV had a 2-pounder QF gun paired with a Browning MG mounted in its turret.

Introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]], the SARC MkIVa is one of the fastest vehicles at its rank. Apart from excellent mobility, it also boasts decent armament, with the same 2-pounder cannon that equips many early vehicles in the British tree. However, having a wheeled chassis, the SARC MkIVa is significantly less manoeuvrable than tracked armoured vehicles, especially when turning, and can struggle over rough terrain. The vehicle's armour protection is also subpar, as is its survivability in combat.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

The SARC MkIVa has poor survivability, with the 12 mm rounds able to penetrate the sides and 20 mm rounds the front. The crew is very tightly packed, meaning that any shot that hits one crew member it likely to knock out at least two. The SARC being open-topped leaves it highly vulnerable to even low calibre HE and aircraft bullets.

The SARC MkIVa's manoeuvrability and good reverse gear should be used to avoid getting hit and ambush the enemy. Vehicles with 20 mm autocannons and enemy SPAAs are very dangerous for the SARC, as they can easily shred its armour.

'''Armour type:''' 


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 6 mm || 6 mm ''Top'' 6 mm ''Bottom'' || 6 mm || 2 - 10 mm
|-
| Turret || 14 mm ''Turret front'' || 6 mm || 6 mm || 0 - 10 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

The MkIVa does not accelerate quickly. In a city fight or in a sniping match, this is a liability.

This is offset by its very high top speed of 80 km/h, granting it unmatched speed on flat terrain. Combined with its smaller size, this gives the MkIVa the opportunity to sneak into a hidden location and get flanking shots on unsuspecting enemies.

In unflat or offroad conditions, the MkIVa's mobility is greatly reduced. The mediocre 15 hp/t power-to-weight ratio means that the vehicle might not even start on a slope and will slide down uncontrollably. Therefore, either avoid driving uphills, or gain some speed before reaching the hill.

{{tankMobility|abMinHp=147|rbMinHp=84}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

The MKIVa depends on mobility. Due to the relatively low chance that the crew will survive getting shot, crew replacement is not an immediate priority. Instead, focus first on spare parts and FPE, then better ammunition, then mobility improvements. The strength of the MKIVa is its speed, so upgrades that facilitate that are important. Ignore brakes for last: you shouldn't need to stop better, you need to get to a hiding spot faster.

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|QF 2-pounder (40 mm)}}

The QF 2-Pounder is a solid weapon for its tier. It can frontally penetrate most vehicles at its BR, but excels in flanking shots. The stock Shot MK. 1 AP shell has poor performance, so take effort to phase this out in favour of the better performing Shot MK IX APCBC.

The slow rotation speed of the turret means that the gun should ideally used in an ambush role on the sides of enemy tanks. The relatively high fire rate also allows for consistent fires on enemy targets.

Be advised that the QF 2-pounder loses accuracy over 500 meters, so it is ill advised to use the gun for this purpose: leave the sniping for the tank destroyers and concentrate on ambushing.

The MkIVa doesn't have a vertical stabiliser or more than 5 degrees of gun depression, so it cannot utilise hills to ambush or respond quickly to a close quarter surprise encounter as good as some other vehicles like A13. This limits the opportunities it can maximise its firepower. However, with good situational awareness and map knowledge, this disadvantage can be countered to an extent.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[QF 2-pounder (40 mm)|40 mm QF 2-pounder]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 37 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | - || 15.6 || 21.6 || 26.2 || 29.0 || 30.9 || rowspan="2" | 3.64 || rowspan="2" | 3.22 || rowspan="2" | 2.97 || rowspan="2" | 2.80
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 9.8 || 11.5 || 13.9 || 15.4 || 16.4
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{{:QF 2-pounder (40 mm)/Ammunition|Shot Mk.1 AP/T, Shot Mk.IXB APCBC/T, Shot Mk.1 APHV/T, Shell Mk.1 AP/T}}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
[[File:Ammoracks_SARC MkIVa.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''37''' || 33 ''(+4)'' || 28 ''(+9)'' || 1 ''(+36)'' || No
|-
|}
'''Notes''':

* Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
* Turret empty: 28 ''(+9)'' shells.
{{Clear}}
=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}

{{main|M1919A4 (7.62 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M1919A4 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M1919A4]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 1,000 (250) || 500 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

The M1919A4 is a good machine gun, though it is only useful for knocking out lightly-armoured vehicles like trucks or the occasional half-tracks. The high ammo count per belt means that sustained fire can be used to check bushes and smoke for obscured targets.

In an emergency, it can be used as an anti-aircraft weapon, but the poor damage output and turret rotation speed makes this option less advisable.

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Narrow profile; difficult to hit at range, can navigate tight spaces well
* High top speed on paved surfaces; comparable to fast foes like [[BT-5]]
* Quick reload speed
* Fast acceleration; top speed can be reached fairly quickly
* Access to smoke grenades

'''Cons:'''

* Low survivability; poor armour can be easily penetrated by anything
* Off-road mobility is lacklustre
* Difficult to control at high speeds
* High centre of mass, can tip over when operating on uneven ground
* No gun stabiliser compared to similar vehicles (e.g. [[Daimler Mk II]])
* Below-average gun depression

== History ==

The South African Reconnaissance Car (SARC), known in British service as the Marmon-Herrington<ref>David Fletcher, Tank Chat #129, The Tank Museum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQmaXWPouno</ref>, had a remarkably diverse pedigree, as it combined components made in the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom, put together in South Africa. The service record of its variants was similarly far-flung, despite its relatively small production numbers, as it saw service in WW2, Cyprus, across Africa, and even (from captured Japanese stock) Indonesia.<ref name=":0">[[wikipedia:Marmon-Herrington_Armoured_Car|[Wikipedia] Marmon-Herrington Armoured Car]]</ref>

This variant, the Mark IV, fitted a 40 mm 2-pdr. gun in an artillery mounting, not the usual tank-style mantlet. It arrived rather late in WW2, but saw action post-war in Cyprus and with the Arab League. Earlier versions fought with the 1st King's Dragoon Guards at the Siege of Tobruk in 1941.<ref name=":0" />

== Media ==


;Images
<gallery mode="packed-hover" heights="200">
File:ArtImage SARC MkIVa.png|
</gallery>

;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=uk_sarc_mk4_a Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|MQmaXWPouno|'''Tank Chats #129 - Marmon-Herrington Mk. IV''' - ''The Tank Museum''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[Marmon-Herrington Armoured Car (Family)]]

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

=== References ===
<references />

{{Britain light tanks}}
[[Category:Wheeled ground vehicles]]

Pz.Sp.Wg.P204(f) KwK

2024-10-29T04:47:52Z

U36730855: Updated Armour values and removed cupola row because it doesnt feature one.

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|code=germ_amd_35_kwk
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
}}

== Description ==

The capitulation of France in 1940 saw a number of equipment captured by the Germans, including the [[AMD.35]] armoured car and their production facilities. The German Wehrmacht pressed the Panhard armoured car into service, issuing them to their reconnaissance units and they would see prominent use during Operation Barbarossa. However, as the years passed, the AMD.35 were seen as becoming obsolete in frontline service and saw more use behind the lines such as occupational and policing duties. In 1944, it was decided to take 34 AMD.35 and modify them to accommodate the [[KwK_L/42_(50_mm)|50 mm L/42 tank gun]] used in the Panzer III. Transformed into open-top vehicles and designated as Pz.Sp.Wg.P204(f) KwK, they were utilized in occupation duties until the Allied invasion of Normandy, where the vehicles were then committed to combat the invading Allies.

Introduced as part of a reward for the [[wt:en/news/8384-event-summer-extreme-en|2023 Summer Extreme]] event during [[Update "La Royale"]], the Pz.Sp.Wg.P204(f) KwK is a fairly unique armoured car in the early German tech tree line-up. The AMD.35 armoured car chassis provides decent mobility on hard surfaces, but the star of the show is the 50 mm cannon, which is powerful enough to penetrate tanks it will encounter. However, limitations in the turret traverse and the open-top nature of the turret limit the full potential of this cannon at the rank it is in. The Pz.Sp.Wg.P204(f) KwK can help players strike true with power, but only in the right situations that the player can put the armoured car into against an incoming enemy.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

'''Armour type:''' 


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 26 mm || 15 mm ''Top'' 15 mm ''Bottom'' || 15 mm || 0 mm
|-
| Turret || 15 mm ''Turret front'' 20 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 0 mm || 0 mm || 0 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

As a wheeled vehicle, the Pz.Sp.Wg.P204(f) KwK is fast and has a good mobility on hard surfaces. However, it bleeds energy and loses a lot of mobility when offroad.

{{tankMobility|abMinHp=163|rbMinHp=93}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|KwK L/42 (50 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[KwK L/42 (50 mm)|50 mm KwK L/42]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 26 || rowspan="2" | -12°/+14° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 14.9 || 20.7 || 25.1 || 27.8 || 29.6 || rowspan="2" | 5.20 || rowspan="2" | 4.60 || rowspan="2" | 4.24 || rowspan="2" | 4.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 9.3 || 11.0 || 13.3 || 14.8 || 15.7
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{{:KwK L/42 (50 mm)/Ammunition|PzGr 39, PzGr 40}}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''26''' || 23 ''(+3)'' || 19 ''(+7)'' || 1 ''(+25)'' || No
|-
|}
'''Notes''':

* Shells are modelled individually and disappear from the rack after having been loaded into the breech.
* If you pack 19 ''(+7)'' shells, it will keep the turret empty of ammo.
{{Clear}}

== Usage in battles ==


With a lack of a coaxial machine gun and poor armor, players may find head on attacks against enemies difficult. Instead utilization of their speed and powerful cannon will be their main objective. Flank attacks and supporting fire for teammates are highly recommended. The high agility of the vehicle also allows for the capture of objectives quickly and efficiently while being able to avoid enemies. However a lack of ammunition does force the player to select their shots carefully as one too many missed or wasted shots can result in a quick return to the hanger. With the lack of a roof and armor in the rear it's highly recommended to always be facing the enemy. Despite being weak, the armor of the turret prevents mostly machine gun fire from harming the loader and gunner. The protection of these two members can be the factor between losing the vehicle or being able to limp back to a control point.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Wheeled vehicle, faster than conventional tanks on roads
* Powerful 50 mm KwK L/42 cannon can penetrate most vehicles at its BR
* Special transmission allows for top speed to be reached in both forward and reverse, making engine-first tactics viable and increasing survivability

'''Cons:'''

* Poor braking
* Large turning radius
* Lack of coaxial machine gun
* Relies on player's ability to hit shots on key crew members (drivers and gunners)
* Open-topped layout makes it prone to air attack and flanking machine gun attacks
* Weak armour stops only rifle-calibre machine gun rounds
* Poor manoeuvrability off road, confines the vehicle to surfaces like roads and gravel for utilization of speed advantage

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=germ_amd_35_kwk Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|0k4QRAI_ILw|'''The Shooting Range #369''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:25 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[AMD.35 (Family)]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/8386-development-pz-sp-wg-p204-f-kwk-tank-destroyer-en|[Devblog] Pz.Sp.Wg.P204(f) KwK tank destroyer]]

{{Germany light tanks}}
{{Germany premium ground vehicles}}
[[Category:Wheeled ground vehicles]]

SARC MkIVa

2024-10-29T04:39:53Z

U36730855: Added armour values, and removed cupola row.

{{About
| about = British light tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = Marmon-Herrington Armoured Car (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=uk_sarc_mk4_a
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage2_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
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== Description ==

The SARC (South African Reconnaissance Car) series of armoured vehicles, known in British service as the Marmon-Herrington Armoured Car, was developed by South Africa on order from the British military in 1938. The vehicles were assembled in South African factories using components from the USA, Britain, and South Africa itself. Despite being accepted into service with the British Army, they were never actually used in combat by the British, who preferred their own domestically produced armoured cars. SARC vehicles were also in service with the armies of Cyprus, Egypt, India, Poland, and a number of other countries. They took part in the 1948 Arab-Israeli War and during the Turkish invasion of Cyprus in the summer of 1974. A total of 5,746 SARC armoured vehicles of all modifications were produced.

The most widespread modification of the SARC armoured cars was the '''SARC Mk IV'''. Over 2,000 units were produced between 1943 and 1944. The vehicle was developed specifically for British forces fighting in North Africa; however, the North African campaign ended before it could enter service. Unlike previous modifications equipped with machine gun and rifle armament, the Mk IV had a 2-pounder QF gun paired with a Browning MG mounted in its turret.

Introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]], the SARC MkIVa is one of the fastest vehicles at its rank. Apart from excellent mobility, it also boasts decent armament, with the same 2-pounder cannon that equips many early vehicles in the British tree. However, having a wheeled chassis, the SARC MkIVa is significantly less manoeuvrable than tracked armoured vehicles, especially when turning, and can struggle over rough terrain. The vehicle's armour protection is also subpar, as is its survivability in combat.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

The SARC MkIVa has poor survivability, with the 12 mm rounds able to penetrate the sides and 20 mm rounds the front. The crew is very tightly packed, meaning that any shot that hits one crew member it likely to knock out at least two. The SARC being open-topped leaves it highly vulnerable to even low calibre HE and aircraft bullets.

The SARC MkIVa's manoeuvrability and good reverse gear should be used to avoid getting hit and ambush the enemy. Vehicles with 20 mm autocannons and enemy SPAAs are very dangerous for the SARC, as they can easily shred its armour.

'''Armour type:''' 


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 6 mm || 6 mm ''Top'' 6 mm ''Bottom'' || 6 mm || 2 - 10 mm
|-
| Turret || 14 mm ''Turret front'' || 6 mm || 6 mm || 10 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:''' 


=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}

The MkIVa does not accelerate quickly. In a city fight or in a sniping match, this is a liability.

This is offset by its very high top speed of 80 km/h, granting it unmatched speed on flat terrain. Combined with its smaller size, this gives the MkIVa the opportunity to sneak into a hidden location and get flanking shots on unsuspecting enemies.

In unflat or offroad conditions, the MkIVa's mobility is greatly reduced. The mediocre 15 hp/t power-to-weight ratio means that the vehicle might not even start on a slope and will slide down uncontrollably. Therefore, either avoid driving uphills, or gain some speed before reaching the hill.

{{tankMobility|abMinHp=147|rbMinHp=84}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

The MKIVa depends on mobility. Due to the relatively low chance that the crew will survive getting shot, crew replacement is not an immediate priority. Instead, focus first on spare parts and FPE, then better ammunition, then mobility improvements. The strength of the MKIVa is its speed, so upgrades that facilitate that are important. Ignore brakes for last: you shouldn't need to stop better, you need to get to a hiding spot faster.

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|QF 2-pounder (40 mm)}}

The QF 2-Pounder is a solid weapon for its tier. It can frontally penetrate most vehicles at its BR, but excels in flanking shots. The stock Shot MK. 1 AP shell has poor performance, so take effort to phase this out in favour of the better performing Shot MK IX APCBC.

The slow rotation speed of the turret means that the gun should ideally used in an ambush role on the sides of enemy tanks. The relatively high fire rate also allows for consistent fires on enemy targets.

Be advised that the QF 2-pounder loses accuracy over 500 meters, so it is ill advised to use the gun for this purpose: leave the sniping for the tank destroyers and concentrate on ambushing.

The MkIVa doesn't have a vertical stabiliser or more than 5 degrees of gun depression, so it cannot utilise hills to ambush or respond quickly to a close quarter surprise encounter as good as some other vehicles like A13. This limits the opportunities it can maximise its firepower. However, with good situational awareness and map knowledge, this disadvantage can be countered to an extent.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[QF 2-pounder (40 mm)|40 mm QF 2-pounder]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 37 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | - || 15.6 || 21.6 || 26.2 || 29.0 || 30.9 || rowspan="2" | 3.64 || rowspan="2" | 3.22 || rowspan="2" | 2.97 || rowspan="2" | 2.80
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 9.8 || 11.5 || 13.9 || 15.4 || 16.4
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{{:QF 2-pounder (40 mm)/Ammunition|Shot Mk.1 AP/T, Shot Mk.IXB APCBC/T, Shot Mk.1 APHV/T, Shell Mk.1 AP/T}}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
[[File:Ammoracks_SARC MkIVa.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''37''' || 33 ''(+4)'' || 28 ''(+9)'' || 1 ''(+36)'' || No
|-
|}
'''Notes''':

* Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
* Turret empty: 28 ''(+9)'' shells.
{{Clear}}
=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}

{{main|M1919A4 (7.62 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M1919A4 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M1919A4]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 1,000 (250) || 500 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

The M1919A4 is a good machine gun, though it is only useful for knocking out lightly-armoured vehicles like trucks or the occasional half-tracks. The high ammo count per belt means that sustained fire can be used to check bushes and smoke for obscured targets.

In an emergency, it can be used as an anti-aircraft weapon, but the poor damage output and turret rotation speed makes this option less advisable.

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Narrow profile; difficult to hit at range, can navigate tight spaces well
* High top speed on paved surfaces; comparable to fast foes like [[BT-5]]
* Quick reload speed
* Fast acceleration; top speed can be reached fairly quickly
* Access to smoke grenades

'''Cons:'''

* Low survivability; poor armour can be easily penetrated by anything
* Off-road mobility is lacklustre
* Difficult to control at high speeds
* High centre of mass, can tip over when operating on uneven ground
* No gun stabiliser compared to similar vehicles (e.g. [[Daimler Mk II]])
* Below-average gun depression

== History ==

The South African Reconnaissance Car (SARC), known in British service as the Marmon-Herrington<ref>David Fletcher, Tank Chat #129, The Tank Museum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQmaXWPouno</ref>, had a remarkably diverse pedigree, as it combined components made in the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom, put together in South Africa. The service record of its variants was similarly far-flung, despite its relatively small production numbers, as it saw service in WW2, Cyprus, across Africa, and even (from captured Japanese stock) Indonesia.<ref name=":0">[[wikipedia:Marmon-Herrington_Armoured_Car|[Wikipedia] Marmon-Herrington Armoured Car]]</ref>

This variant, the Mark IV, fitted a 40 mm 2-pdr. gun in an artillery mounting, not the usual tank-style mantlet. It arrived rather late in WW2, but saw action post-war in Cyprus and with the Arab League. Earlier versions fought with the 1st King's Dragoon Guards at the Siege of Tobruk in 1941.<ref name=":0" />

== Media ==


;Images
<gallery mode="packed-hover" heights="200">
File:ArtImage SARC MkIVa.png|
</gallery>

;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=uk_sarc_mk4_a Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|MQmaXWPouno|'''Tank Chats #129 - Marmon-Herrington Mk. IV''' - ''The Tank Museum''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[Marmon-Herrington Armoured Car (Family)]]

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

=== References ===
<references />

{{Britain light tanks}}
[[Category:Wheeled ground vehicles]]