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Mirage F1C

2022-06-06T20:08:37Z

U34015250: /* Pros and cons */

{{Specs-Card
|code=mirage_f1c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Wind of Change"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 12,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 2,149 || 2,106 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.6 || 29.1 || 129.5 || 123.5 || rowspan="2" | 750
|-
! Upgraded
| 2,228 || 2,228 || 26.0 || 27.0 || 183.2 || 155.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || ✓ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| 1,351  || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 555 || 549 || 416 || ~__ || ~__
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < ___ || < ___ || < ___ || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | SNECMA Atar 9K-50 || 1
| colspan="2" | 8,161 kg || colspan="3" | ___ kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 13m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 43m fuel
|-
| 1,590 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
| 9,168 kg || 9,702 kg || 10,472 kg || 11,516 kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 13m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 43m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 4,876 kgf || 6,750 kgf
| 0.74 || 0.70 || 0.65 || 0.59 || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 5,900 kgf (1,200 - 1,351 km/h) || 9,110 kgf (1,351 km/h)
| 0.99 || 0.94 || 0.87 || 0.79 || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|DEFA 553 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons, belly-mounted (135 rpg = 270 total)
** 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons + 120 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|SAMP Type 25 (250 kg)|SAMP Mk 82 (250 kg)|SAMP Type 21 (400 kg)|SAMP Mk 83 (500 kg)|SAMP Mk 84 (1,000 kg)}}
{{main|Matra R530|Matra R530E|Matra R550 Magic 1|Matra R550 Magic 2|Matra Super 530F}}
{{main|SNEB type 23|DEFA 553 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 144 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (180 rpg = 360 total)
* 5 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs (1,250 kg total)
* 5 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 3 x 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bombs (3,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles
* 2 x Matra R530E missiles + 1 x Matra R530 missile
* 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles + 1 x Matra R530 missile
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 5 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 144 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bomb (1,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bomb + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (400 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles + 1 x Matra R530 missile
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 5 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 144 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bomb (1,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bomb + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (400 kg total)

==== Custom loadout options ====
{| class="wikitable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
|-
! !! width="6%" | 1 !! width="6%" | 2 !! width="6%" | 3 !! width="6%" | 4 !! width="6%" | 5 !! width="6%" | 6 !! width="6%" | 7
| rowspan="14" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_{{PAGENAME}}.png]]</div>
|-
! Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles
| 1 || || || || || || 1
|-
! Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles
| 1 || || || || || || 1
|-
! SNEB type 23 rockets
| || 18, 36 || 18, 36 || || 18, 36 || 18, 36 ||
|-
! 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 250 kg SAMP Mk 82 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 500 kg SAMP Mk 83 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (180 rpg)
| || || 1 || || 1 || ||
|-
! Matra Super 530F missiles
| || || 1 || || 1 || ||
|-
! 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bombs
| || || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
|-
! Matra R530E missiles
| || || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
|-
! Matra R530 missiles
| || || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
|-
| colspan="8" | Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 500 kg
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==


The most effective way of using the Mirage F1C in Air Realistic battles is to play a support role. Try to stay behind your team and target slow and distracted enemies. Considering the poor top speed and manoeuvrability of the Mirage F1C, it doesn't stand much chance in duels against most enemies, even against uptiered fighters.

Update: This plane has seen some minor buff to it's performance, but it still lacks aoa and agility - it's best played with teammates or in a supporting role using the powerful magic 2s to swiftly take out preoccupied or unaware opponents.

The F1c also makes a surprisingly good strike aircraft due to it's ability to carry larger bombs compared to it's other ground striker peers such as the Mirage 5F or even the Jaguar.

'''Enemies worth noting:'''

Every fighter at the BR is a threat for the Mirage F1C because of its slow acceleration and bad elevator and rudder response. Any opposing fighter will outmanoeuvre you.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Availability of Matra Super 530F and R550 Magic 2 air-to-air missiles
* The Cyrano-IV allows low altitude Pulse-Doppler (MTI) and ACM, an upgrade from the previous Mirage (IIIE & IIIC)
* 120 countermeasures
* Decent high speed acceleration when you get it going
* Very good looking plane :)
* Custom loadout makes it a flexible strike aircraft for ground rb (ability to carry heavier bombs and a larger payload of rockets)
* Magic 2 missiles pull nicely and have all aspect combability better than that of the Aim 9 L

'''Cons:'''

* Very slow acceleration with full loadout
* The Matra Super 530F missiles are very heavy and strongly impact flight performance
* Poor maneuverability at low and high speeds with only "workable" agility at mid speeds
* Low redline speed at around 1250 kph, slower than it's other 11.3 peers.
* 30 mm DEFA cannons are difficult to use at high speeds
* Very reliant on missiles for it offence, easily countered by more experienced or aware pilots
* Matra R530F missiles are unreliable having little to no chaff resistance, best used on unaware and preoccupied targets.

== History ==

=== [[wt:en/news/7610-development-mirage-f1c-a-break-from-tradition-en|Devblog]] ===
In the early 1960s, Dassault Aviation was conducting intense design studies on the basis of the Mirage, resulting in a number of different variations of the aircraft emerging. Among them, a smaller swept wing design of the Mirage outfitted with the latest and more powerful SNECMA Atar 9K-50 turbojet engine garnered the interest of Dassault engineers as a possible future replacement to the existing Mirage III and Mirage 5 fighters.

Confident in the design, Dassault began conducting further design work under the official name Mirage F1 as part of a private venture. In late 1966, the first prototype conducted its maiden flight and the initial test results proved to be rather positive. In late 1966, the French Air Force also expressed interest in the aircraft and officially adopted the development programme. Subsequently, the Air Force ordered a small batch of pre-production aircraft to be built in April 1967. After Dassault persuaded the Air Force to accept the Mirage F1 into service in order to make the aircraft also marketable to foreign operators, the first production order for the aircraft was issued in 1969.

Entering official service with the French Air Force in March 1974, the Mirage F1 took part in their first combat operations a decade later flying sorties against insurgent forces in Chad. Mirage F1s also took part in French operations during the Gulf War in 1990. In the late 2000s, French Mirage F1s also supported international forces during operations in Afghanistan.

Apart from France, several other nations such as Greece, Spain, South Africa, Qatar, Iraq, Morocco, and many others, operated variants of the Mirage F1.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=mirage_f1c Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Images
<gallery mode="packed-hover" heights="200">
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper001.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper002.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper003.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper004.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper005.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper006.jpg
</gallery>

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|Ru7TKQXZQGs|'''The Shooting Range #297''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:28 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7610-development-mirage-f1c-a-break-from-tradition-en|[Devblog] Mirage F1C: A Break from Tradition]]
* [https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/passion/aircraft/military-dassault-aircraft/mirage-f1/ <nowiki>[Dassault Aviation]</nowiki> Mirage F1]

{{AirManufacturer Dassault}}
{{France jet aircraft}}

Mirage F1C

2022-06-06T20:06:12Z

U34015250: /* Pros and cons */

{{Specs-Card
|code=mirage_f1c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Wind of Change"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 12,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 2,149 || 2,106 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.6 || 29.1 || 129.5 || 123.5 || rowspan="2" | 750
|-
! Upgraded
| 2,228 || 2,228 || 26.0 || 27.0 || 183.2 || 155.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || ✓ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| 1,351  || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 555 || 549 || 416 || ~__ || ~__
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < ___ || < ___ || < ___ || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | SNECMA Atar 9K-50 || 1
| colspan="2" | 8,161 kg || colspan="3" | ___ kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 13m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 43m fuel
|-
| 1,590 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
| 9,168 kg || 9,702 kg || 10,472 kg || 11,516 kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 13m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 43m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 4,876 kgf || 6,750 kgf
| 0.74 || 0.70 || 0.65 || 0.59 || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 5,900 kgf (1,200 - 1,351 km/h) || 9,110 kgf (1,351 km/h)
| 0.99 || 0.94 || 0.87 || 0.79 || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|DEFA 553 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons, belly-mounted (135 rpg = 270 total)
** 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons + 120 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|SAMP Type 25 (250 kg)|SAMP Mk 82 (250 kg)|SAMP Type 21 (400 kg)|SAMP Mk 83 (500 kg)|SAMP Mk 84 (1,000 kg)}}
{{main|Matra R530|Matra R530E|Matra R550 Magic 1|Matra R550 Magic 2|Matra Super 530F}}
{{main|SNEB type 23|DEFA 553 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 144 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (180 rpg = 360 total)
* 5 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs (1,250 kg total)
* 5 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 3 x 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bombs (3,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles
* 2 x Matra R530E missiles + 1 x Matra R530 missile
* 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles + 1 x Matra R530 missile
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 5 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 144 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bomb (1,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bomb + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (400 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles + 1 x Matra R530 missile
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 5 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 144 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bomb (1,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bomb + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (400 kg total)

==== Custom loadout options ====
{| class="wikitable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
|-
! !! width="6%" | 1 !! width="6%" | 2 !! width="6%" | 3 !! width="6%" | 4 !! width="6%" | 5 !! width="6%" | 6 !! width="6%" | 7
| rowspan="14" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_{{PAGENAME}}.png]]</div>
|-
! Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles
| 1 || || || || || || 1
|-
! Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles
| 1 || || || || || || 1
|-
! SNEB type 23 rockets
| || 18, 36 || 18, 36 || || 18, 36 || 18, 36 ||
|-
! 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 250 kg SAMP Mk 82 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 500 kg SAMP Mk 83 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (180 rpg)
| || || 1 || || 1 || ||
|-
! Matra Super 530F missiles
| || || 1 || || 1 || ||
|-
! 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bombs
| || || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
|-
! Matra R530E missiles
| || || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
|-
! Matra R530 missiles
| || || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
|-
| colspan="8" | Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 500 kg
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==


The most effective way of using the Mirage F1C in Air Realistic battles is to play a support role. Try to stay behind your team and target slow and distracted enemies. Considering the poor top speed and manoeuvrability of the Mirage F1C, it doesn't stand much chance in duels against most enemies, even against uptiered fighters.

Update: This plane has seen some minor buff to it's performance, but it still lacks aoa and agility - it's best played with teammates or in a supporting role using the powerful magic 2s to swiftly take out preoccupied or unaware opponents.

The F1c also makes a surprisingly good strike aircraft due to it's ability to carry larger bombs compared to it's other ground striker peers such as the Mirage 5F or even the Jaguar.

'''Enemies worth noting:'''

Every fighter at the BR is a threat for the Mirage F1C because of its slow acceleration and bad elevator and rudder response. Any opposing fighter will outmanoeuvre you.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Availability of Matra Super 530F and R550 Magic 2 air-to-air missiles
* The Cyrano-IV allows low altitude Pulse-Doppler (MTI) and ACM, an upgrade from the previous Mirage (IIIE & IIIC)
* 120 countermeasures
* Decent high speed acceleration when you get it going
* Very good looking plane :)
* Custom loadout makes it a flexible strike aircraft for ground rb (ability to carry heavier bombs and a larger payload of rockets)

'''Cons:'''

* Very slow acceleration with full loadout
* The Matra Super 530F missiles are very heavy and strongly impact flight performance
* Poor maneuverability at low and high speeds with only "workable" agility at mid speeds
* Low redline speed at around 1250 kph, slower than it's other 11.3 peers.
* 30 mm DEFA cannons are difficult to use at high speeds
* Very reliant on missiles for it offence, easily countered by more experienced or aware pilots

== History ==

=== [[wt:en/news/7610-development-mirage-f1c-a-break-from-tradition-en|Devblog]] ===
In the early 1960s, Dassault Aviation was conducting intense design studies on the basis of the Mirage, resulting in a number of different variations of the aircraft emerging. Among them, a smaller swept wing design of the Mirage outfitted with the latest and more powerful SNECMA Atar 9K-50 turbojet engine garnered the interest of Dassault engineers as a possible future replacement to the existing Mirage III and Mirage 5 fighters.

Confident in the design, Dassault began conducting further design work under the official name Mirage F1 as part of a private venture. In late 1966, the first prototype conducted its maiden flight and the initial test results proved to be rather positive. In late 1966, the French Air Force also expressed interest in the aircraft and officially adopted the development programme. Subsequently, the Air Force ordered a small batch of pre-production aircraft to be built in April 1967. After Dassault persuaded the Air Force to accept the Mirage F1 into service in order to make the aircraft also marketable to foreign operators, the first production order for the aircraft was issued in 1969.

Entering official service with the French Air Force in March 1974, the Mirage F1 took part in their first combat operations a decade later flying sorties against insurgent forces in Chad. Mirage F1s also took part in French operations during the Gulf War in 1990. In the late 2000s, French Mirage F1s also supported international forces during operations in Afghanistan.

Apart from France, several other nations such as Greece, Spain, South Africa, Qatar, Iraq, Morocco, and many others, operated variants of the Mirage F1.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=mirage_f1c Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Images
<gallery mode="packed-hover" heights="200">
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper001.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper002.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper003.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper004.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper005.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper006.jpg
</gallery>

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|Ru7TKQXZQGs|'''The Shooting Range #297''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:28 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7610-development-mirage-f1c-a-break-from-tradition-en|[Devblog] Mirage F1C: A Break from Tradition]]
* [https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/passion/aircraft/military-dassault-aircraft/mirage-f1/ <nowiki>[Dassault Aviation]</nowiki> Mirage F1]

{{AirManufacturer Dassault}}
{{France jet aircraft}}

Mirage F1C

2022-06-06T20:01:41Z

U34015250: /* Pros and cons */

{{Specs-Card
|code=mirage_f1c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Wind of Change"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 12,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 2,149 || 2,106 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.6 || 29.1 || 129.5 || 123.5 || rowspan="2" | 750
|-
! Upgraded
| 2,228 || 2,228 || 26.0 || 27.0 || 183.2 || 155.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || ✓ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| 1,351  || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 555 || 549 || 416 || ~__ || ~__
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < ___ || < ___ || < ___ || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | SNECMA Atar 9K-50 || 1
| colspan="2" | 8,161 kg || colspan="3" | ___ kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 13m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 43m fuel
|-
| 1,590 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
| 9,168 kg || 9,702 kg || 10,472 kg || 11,516 kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 13m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 43m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 4,876 kgf || 6,750 kgf
| 0.74 || 0.70 || 0.65 || 0.59 || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 5,900 kgf (1,200 - 1,351 km/h) || 9,110 kgf (1,351 km/h)
| 0.99 || 0.94 || 0.87 || 0.79 || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|DEFA 553 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons, belly-mounted (135 rpg = 270 total)
** 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons + 120 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|SAMP Type 25 (250 kg)|SAMP Mk 82 (250 kg)|SAMP Type 21 (400 kg)|SAMP Mk 83 (500 kg)|SAMP Mk 84 (1,000 kg)}}
{{main|Matra R530|Matra R530E|Matra R550 Magic 1|Matra R550 Magic 2|Matra Super 530F}}
{{main|SNEB type 23|DEFA 553 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 144 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (180 rpg = 360 total)
* 5 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs (1,250 kg total)
* 5 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 3 x 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bombs (3,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles
* 2 x Matra R530E missiles + 1 x Matra R530 missile
* 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles + 1 x Matra R530 missile
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 5 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 144 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bomb (1,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bomb + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (400 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles + 1 x Matra R530 missile
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 5 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 144 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bomb (1,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bomb + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (400 kg total)

==== Custom loadout options ====
{| class="wikitable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
|-
! !! width="6%" | 1 !! width="6%" | 2 !! width="6%" | 3 !! width="6%" | 4 !! width="6%" | 5 !! width="6%" | 6 !! width="6%" | 7
| rowspan="14" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_{{PAGENAME}}.png]]</div>
|-
! Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles
| 1 || || || || || || 1
|-
! Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles
| 1 || || || || || || 1
|-
! SNEB type 23 rockets
| || 18, 36 || 18, 36 || || 18, 36 || 18, 36 ||
|-
! 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 250 kg SAMP Mk 82 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 500 kg SAMP Mk 83 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (180 rpg)
| || || 1 || || 1 || ||
|-
! Matra Super 530F missiles
| || || 1 || || 1 || ||
|-
! 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bombs
| || || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
|-
! Matra R530E missiles
| || || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
|-
! Matra R530 missiles
| || || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
|-
| colspan="8" | Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 500 kg
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==


The most effective way of using the Mirage F1C in Air Realistic battles is to play a support role. Try to stay behind your team and target slow and distracted enemies. Considering the poor top speed and manoeuvrability of the Mirage F1C, it doesn't stand much chance in duels against most enemies, even against uptiered fighters.

Update: This plane has seen some minor buff to it's performance, but it still lacks aoa and agility - it's best played with teammates or in a supporting role using the powerful magic 2s to swiftly take out preoccupied or unaware opponents.

The F1c also makes a surprisingly good strike aircraft due to it's ability to carry larger bombs compared to it's other ground striker peers such as the Mirage 5F or even the Jaguar.

'''Enemies worth noting:'''

Every fighter at the BR is a threat for the Mirage F1C because of its slow acceleration and bad elevator and rudder response. Any opposing fighter will outmanoeuvre you.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Availability of Matra Super 530F and R550 Magic 2 air-to-air missiles
* The Cyrano-IV allows low altitude Pulse-Doppler (MTI) and ACM, an upgrade from the previous Mirage (IIIE & IIIC)
* 120 countermeasures
* Decent high speed acceleration when you get it going
* Very good looking plane :)
* Custom loadout makes it a flexible strike aircraft for ground rb (ability to carry heavier bombs and a larger payload of rockets)

'''Cons:'''

* Very slow acceleration with full loadout
* The Matra Super 530F missiles are very heavy and strongly impact flight performance
* Poor manoeuvrability
* Poor top speed compared to other aircraft at this rank
* 30 mm DEFA cannons are difficult to use at high speeds
* On hot maps, the engine overheats quickly

== History ==

=== [[wt:en/news/7610-development-mirage-f1c-a-break-from-tradition-en|Devblog]] ===
In the early 1960s, Dassault Aviation was conducting intense design studies on the basis of the Mirage, resulting in a number of different variations of the aircraft emerging. Among them, a smaller swept wing design of the Mirage outfitted with the latest and more powerful SNECMA Atar 9K-50 turbojet engine garnered the interest of Dassault engineers as a possible future replacement to the existing Mirage III and Mirage 5 fighters.

Confident in the design, Dassault began conducting further design work under the official name Mirage F1 as part of a private venture. In late 1966, the first prototype conducted its maiden flight and the initial test results proved to be rather positive. In late 1966, the French Air Force also expressed interest in the aircraft and officially adopted the development programme. Subsequently, the Air Force ordered a small batch of pre-production aircraft to be built in April 1967. After Dassault persuaded the Air Force to accept the Mirage F1 into service in order to make the aircraft also marketable to foreign operators, the first production order for the aircraft was issued in 1969.

Entering official service with the French Air Force in March 1974, the Mirage F1 took part in their first combat operations a decade later flying sorties against insurgent forces in Chad. Mirage F1s also took part in French operations during the Gulf War in 1990. In the late 2000s, French Mirage F1s also supported international forces during operations in Afghanistan.

Apart from France, several other nations such as Greece, Spain, South Africa, Qatar, Iraq, Morocco, and many others, operated variants of the Mirage F1.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=mirage_f1c Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Images
<gallery mode="packed-hover" heights="200">
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper001.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper002.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper003.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper004.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper005.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper006.jpg
</gallery>

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|Ru7TKQXZQGs|'''The Shooting Range #297''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:28 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7610-development-mirage-f1c-a-break-from-tradition-en|[Devblog] Mirage F1C: A Break from Tradition]]
* [https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/passion/aircraft/military-dassault-aircraft/mirage-f1/ <nowiki>[Dassault Aviation]</nowiki> Mirage F1]

{{AirManufacturer Dassault}}
{{France jet aircraft}}

Mirage F1C

2022-06-06T19:59:49Z

U34015250: /* Usage in battles */

{{Specs-Card
|code=mirage_f1c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Wind of Change"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 12,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 2,149 || 2,106 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.6 || 29.1 || 129.5 || 123.5 || rowspan="2" | 750
|-
! Upgraded
| 2,228 || 2,228 || 26.0 || 27.0 || 183.2 || 155.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || ✓ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| 1,351  || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 555 || 549 || 416 || ~__ || ~__
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < ___ || < ___ || < ___ || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | SNECMA Atar 9K-50 || 1
| colspan="2" | 8,161 kg || colspan="3" | ___ kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 13m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 43m fuel
|-
| 1,590 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
| 9,168 kg || 9,702 kg || 10,472 kg || 11,516 kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 13m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 43m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 4,876 kgf || 6,750 kgf
| 0.74 || 0.70 || 0.65 || 0.59 || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 5,900 kgf (1,200 - 1,351 km/h) || 9,110 kgf (1,351 km/h)
| 0.99 || 0.94 || 0.87 || 0.79 || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|DEFA 553 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons, belly-mounted (135 rpg = 270 total)
** 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons + 120 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|SAMP Type 25 (250 kg)|SAMP Mk 82 (250 kg)|SAMP Type 21 (400 kg)|SAMP Mk 83 (500 kg)|SAMP Mk 84 (1,000 kg)}}
{{main|Matra R530|Matra R530E|Matra R550 Magic 1|Matra R550 Magic 2|Matra Super 530F}}
{{main|SNEB type 23|DEFA 553 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 144 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (180 rpg = 360 total)
* 5 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs (1,250 kg total)
* 5 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 3 x 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bombs (3,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles
* 2 x Matra R530E missiles + 1 x Matra R530 missile
* 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles + 1 x Matra R530 missile
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 5 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 144 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bomb (1,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bomb + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (400 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles + 1 x Matra R530 missile
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 5 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 144 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bomb (1,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bomb + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (400 kg total)

==== Custom loadout options ====
{| class="wikitable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
|-
! !! width="6%" | 1 !! width="6%" | 2 !! width="6%" | 3 !! width="6%" | 4 !! width="6%" | 5 !! width="6%" | 6 !! width="6%" | 7
| rowspan="14" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_{{PAGENAME}}.png]]</div>
|-
! Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles
| 1 || || || || || || 1
|-
! Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles
| 1 || || || || || || 1
|-
! SNEB type 23 rockets
| || 18, 36 || 18, 36 || || 18, 36 || 18, 36 ||
|-
! 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 250 kg SAMP Mk 82 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 500 kg SAMP Mk 83 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (180 rpg)
| || || 1 || || 1 || ||
|-
! Matra Super 530F missiles
| || || 1 || || 1 || ||
|-
! 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bombs
| || || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
|-
! Matra R530E missiles
| || || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
|-
! Matra R530 missiles
| || || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
|-
| colspan="8" | Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 500 kg
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==


The most effective way of using the Mirage F1C in Air Realistic battles is to play a support role. Try to stay behind your team and target slow and distracted enemies. Considering the poor top speed and manoeuvrability of the Mirage F1C, it doesn't stand much chance in duels against most enemies, even against uptiered fighters.

Update: This plane has seen some minor buff to it's performance, but it still lacks aoa and agility - it's best played with teammates or in a supporting role using the powerful magic 2s to swiftly take out preoccupied or unaware opponents.

The F1c also makes a surprisingly good strike aircraft due to it's ability to carry larger bombs compared to it's other ground striker peers such as the Mirage 5F or even the Jaguar.

'''Enemies worth noting:'''

Every fighter at the BR is a threat for the Mirage F1C because of its slow acceleration and bad elevator and rudder response. Any opposing fighter will outmanoeuvre you.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Availability of Matra Super 530F and R550 Magic 2 air-to-air missiles
* The Cyrano-IV allows low altitude Pulse-Doppler (MTI) and ACM, an upgrade from the previous Mirage (IIIE & IIIC)
* 120 countermeasures
* Decent high speed acceleration when you get it going
* Very good looking plane :)

'''Cons:'''

* Very slow acceleration with full loadout
* The Matra Super 530F missiles are very heavy and strongly impact flight performance
* Poor manoeuvrability
* Poor top speed compared to other aircraft at this rank
* 30 mm DEFA cannons are difficult to use at high speeds
* On hot maps, the engine overheats quickly

== History ==

=== [[wt:en/news/7610-development-mirage-f1c-a-break-from-tradition-en|Devblog]] ===
In the early 1960s, Dassault Aviation was conducting intense design studies on the basis of the Mirage, resulting in a number of different variations of the aircraft emerging. Among them, a smaller swept wing design of the Mirage outfitted with the latest and more powerful SNECMA Atar 9K-50 turbojet engine garnered the interest of Dassault engineers as a possible future replacement to the existing Mirage III and Mirage 5 fighters.

Confident in the design, Dassault began conducting further design work under the official name Mirage F1 as part of a private venture. In late 1966, the first prototype conducted its maiden flight and the initial test results proved to be rather positive. In late 1966, the French Air Force also expressed interest in the aircraft and officially adopted the development programme. Subsequently, the Air Force ordered a small batch of pre-production aircraft to be built in April 1967. After Dassault persuaded the Air Force to accept the Mirage F1 into service in order to make the aircraft also marketable to foreign operators, the first production order for the aircraft was issued in 1969.

Entering official service with the French Air Force in March 1974, the Mirage F1 took part in their first combat operations a decade later flying sorties against insurgent forces in Chad. Mirage F1s also took part in French operations during the Gulf War in 1990. In the late 2000s, French Mirage F1s also supported international forces during operations in Afghanistan.

Apart from France, several other nations such as Greece, Spain, South Africa, Qatar, Iraq, Morocco, and many others, operated variants of the Mirage F1.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=mirage_f1c Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Images
<gallery mode="packed-hover" heights="200">
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper001.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper002.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper003.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper004.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper005.jpg
Mirage_F1C_WTWallpaper006.jpg
</gallery>

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|Ru7TKQXZQGs|'''The Shooting Range #297''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:28 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7610-development-mirage-f1c-a-break-from-tradition-en|[Devblog] Mirage F1C: A Break from Tradition]]
* [https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/passion/aircraft/military-dassault-aircraft/mirage-f1/ <nowiki>[Dassault Aviation]</nowiki> Mirage F1]

{{AirManufacturer Dassault}}
{{France jet aircraft}}

Mirage F1C

2022-06-06T19:55:56Z

U34015250: /* Pros and cons */

{{Specs-Card
|code=mirage_f1c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Wind of Change"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 12,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 2,149 || 2,106 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.6 || 29.1 || 129.5 || 123.5 || rowspan="2" | 750
|-
! Upgraded
| 2,228 || 2,228 || 26.0 || 27.0 || 183.2 || 155.0
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || ✓ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| 1,351  || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 555 || 549 || 416 || ~__ || ~__
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < ___ || < ___ || < ___ || N/A
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | SNECMA Atar 9K-50 || 1
| colspan="2" | 8,161 kg || colspan="3" | ___ kg/m2
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff Weight
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 13m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 43m fuel
|-
| 1,590 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
| 9,168 kg || 9,702 kg || 10,472 kg || 11,516 kg || _,___ kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 13m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 43m fuel || MTOW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 4,876 kgf || 6,750 kgf
| 0.74 || 0.70 || 0.65 || 0.59 || _.__
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 5,900 kgf (1,200 - 1,351 km/h) || 9,110 kgf (1,351 km/h)
| 0.99 || 0.94 || 0.87 || 0.79 || _.__
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|DEFA 553 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons, belly-mounted (135 rpg = 270 total)
** 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons + 120 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}

{{main|SAMP Type 25 (250 kg)|SAMP Mk 82 (250 kg)|SAMP Type 21 (400 kg)|SAMP Mk 83 (500 kg)|SAMP Mk 84 (1,000 kg)}}
{{main|Matra R530|Matra R530E|Matra R550 Magic 1|Matra R550 Magic 2|Matra Super 530F}}
{{main|SNEB type 23|DEFA 553 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 144 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (180 rpg = 360 total)
* 5 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs (1,250 kg total)
* 5 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 3 x 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bombs (3,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles
* 2 x Matra R530E missiles + 1 x Matra R530 missile
* 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles + 1 x Matra R530 missile
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 5 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 144 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bomb (1,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bomb + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (400 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles + 1 x Matra R530 missile
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 2 x Matra Super 530F missiles
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 5 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (2,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 144 x SNEB type 23 rockets
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bomb (1,000 kg total)
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 1 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bomb + 2 x 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (400 kg total)

==== Custom loadout options ====
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|-
! Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles
| 1 || || || || || || 1
|-
! Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles
| 1 || || || || || || 1
|-
! SNEB type 23 rockets
| || 18, 36 || 18, 36 || || 18, 36 || 18, 36 ||
|-
! 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 250 kg SAMP Mk 82 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 500 kg SAMP Mk 83 bombs
| || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
|-
! 30 mm DEFA 553 cannons (180 rpg)
| || || 1 || || 1 || ||
|-
! Matra Super 530F missiles
| || || 1 || || 1 || ||
|-
! 1,000 kg SAMP Mk 84 bombs
| || || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
|-
! Matra R530E missiles
| || || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
|-
! Matra R530 missiles
| || || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
|-
| colspan="8" | Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 500 kg
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==


The most effective way of using the Mirage F1C in Air Realistic battles is to play a support role. Try to stay behind your team and target slow and distracted enemies. Considering the poor top speed and manoeuvrability of the Mirage F1C, it doesn't stand much chance in duels against most enemies, even against uptiered fighters.

'''Enemies worth noting:'''

Every fighter at the BR is a threat for the Mirage F1C because of its slow acceleration and bad elevator and rudder response. Any opposing fighter will outmanoeuvre you.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Availability of Matra Super 530F and R550 Magic 2 air-to-air missiles
* The Cyrano-IV allows low altitude Pulse-Doppler (MTI) and ACM, an upgrade from the previous Mirage (IIIE & IIIC)
* 120 countermeasures
* Decent high speed acceleration when you get it going
* Very good looking plane :)

'''Cons:'''

* Very slow acceleration with full loadout
* The Matra Super 530F missiles are very heavy and strongly impact flight performance
* Poor manoeuvrability
* Poor top speed compared to other aircraft at this rank
* 30 mm DEFA cannons are difficult to use at high speeds
* On hot maps, the engine overheats quickly

== History ==

=== [[wt:en/news/7610-development-mirage-f1c-a-break-from-tradition-en|Devblog]] ===
In the early 1960s, Dassault Aviation was conducting intense design studies on the basis of the Mirage, resulting in a number of different variations of the aircraft emerging. Among them, a smaller swept wing design of the Mirage outfitted with the latest and more powerful SNECMA Atar 9K-50 turbojet engine garnered the interest of Dassault engineers as a possible future replacement to the existing Mirage III and Mirage 5 fighters.

Confident in the design, Dassault began conducting further design work under the official name Mirage F1 as part of a private venture. In late 1966, the first prototype conducted its maiden flight and the initial test results proved to be rather positive. In late 1966, the French Air Force also expressed interest in the aircraft and officially adopted the development programme. Subsequently, the Air Force ordered a small batch of pre-production aircraft to be built in April 1967. After Dassault persuaded the Air Force to accept the Mirage F1 into service in order to make the aircraft also marketable to foreign operators, the first production order for the aircraft was issued in 1969.

Entering official service with the French Air Force in March 1974, the Mirage F1 took part in their first combat operations a decade later flying sorties against insurgent forces in Chad. Mirage F1s also took part in French operations during the Gulf War in 1990. In the late 2000s, French Mirage F1s also supported international forces during operations in Afghanistan.

Apart from France, several other nations such as Greece, Spain, South Africa, Qatar, Iraq, Morocco, and many others, operated variants of the Mirage F1.

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== See also ==

''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7610-development-mirage-f1c-a-break-from-tradition-en|[Devblog] Mirage F1C: A Break from Tradition]]
* [https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/passion/aircraft/military-dassault-aircraft/mirage-f1/ <nowiki>[Dassault Aviation]</nowiki> Mirage F1]

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Type 10

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

Also known as Hitomaru (''kun-yomi'' pronunciation of the number 10), the Type 10 MBT was initially accepted into service in 2010 (with effect in 2012) to replace or complement the existing Type 74 and Type 90 main battle tanks. Compared to its predecessors, there was a bigger emphasis on the {{Annotation|C4I system|command, control, communication, computer & intelligence}}, weight reduction, and modular armour.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

The Type 10 was designed to be a lighter yet more protected version of its predecessor, the [[Type 90]] (Kyumaru); thanks to advances in technology during the two decades and its overall design, the Type 10 reaches a high level of protection with an detachable composite block on the front of the hull, the turret has also been designed to fit new composite armour blocks. The overall protection of the hull front can reach up to 575-580 mm against kinetic rounds on average, while the turret is another story - with only frontal arc protection and around 500 mm of KE protection, chances are most darts at the same BR range can penetrate the turret with relatively ease, and turret sidescraping is not an option as the inner part of the turret has very little protection.

The lower glacis is yet another story, with its fairly large area and very low protection, it can be the death sentence of the Type 10 if the spalling after penetration spreads in a wide area and does fatal damage to the crew.

The huge hull can mitigate some spalling from KE rounds thanks to its relatively hollow battle compartment, but having only 3 crew members like the [[Type 90]] means that a loss of 2 crew will result in a knock out.

'''Armour type:''' 


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 5 mm (35-85°) ''Upper glacis'' 40 mm (32°) ''Lower glacis'' || 30 mm ''Top'' 35 + 10 mm ''Bottom'' || 25 mm 15 mm ''Engine grille'' || 25 mm 10 mm ''Engine grille''
|-
| Turret || 5 mm ''Turret front'' 20 mm ''Gun mantlet'' 77 mm ''Rear mantlet plate'' || 5 + 35 mm || 5 + 25 mm || 20 - 40 mm
|-
| Cupola || 50 mm || 50 mm || 50 mm || 30 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick
* Turret ring is 50 mm thick and has additional 10 mm internal armour in front of it
* Belly armour is 25 mm thick
* Composite armour covers upper glacis and turret:

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Composite armour !! Front (Slope angle)
|-
| Hull || '''''Upper glacis''''' __ - __ mm ''Kinetic'' __ - __ mm ''Chemical''
|-
| Turret || '''''Turret cheeks''''' __ - __ mm ''Kinetic'' __ - __ mm ''Chemical'' '''''Gun mantlet''''' __ - __ mm ''Kinetic'' __ - __ mm ''Chemical''
|-
|}

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1626|rbMinHp=1061}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|TKG (120 mm)}}

Type 10 utilises a new domestic 120 mm smoothbore gun, developed by Nippon Steel Works; thanks to new alloy technology used on this gun, the new gun can fire rounds at even higher bore pressure, thus enhancing the penetration even more than Type 90. Another key feature is the 14 round autoloader that reloads every 4 seconds, located at the back of the turret, making Type 10 a very formidable opponent in battle.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[TKG (120 mm)|120 mm TKG]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 35 || rowspan="2" | -7°/+10° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 28.6 || 39.5 || 48.0 || 53.1 || 56.5 || rowspan="2" | 4.00 || rowspan="2" | 4.00 || rowspan="2" | 4.00 || rowspan="2" | 4.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 17.9 || 21.0 || 25.5 || 28.2 || 30.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
The stock shell that comes with the tank is very familiar to JGSDF players: JM12A1 HEATFS, equivalent of DM12A1 and M830 HEATFS of NATO guns. At top tier, it struggles to penetrate any modern MBTs with composite armour with up to 900 mm CE protection and its explosive filler is nowhere near enough to overpressure any MBTs as well, just enough to ruin the day for lighter vehicles or SPAAGs. However, thanks to the Type 10's above average mobility, taking the flanks is still achievable; and the reload rate is forgiving for misplaced shots, players might still have a second chance to knock out the enemy's gun or the whole tank right away with its 4 second reload.

The first kinetic round is another familiar shell as well: JM33 APFSDS, equivalent of DM33, at tier I modification. Players who have experienced the Type 90 duo knows how the shell struggles when facing the masses of Soviet/Russian MBTs with sturdy front arc protection; only well-placed shots on their weak spots or lower glacis can knock them out. This is still far superior to the stock JM12A1, and should be a priority for research.

The final researchable shell is the brand new Type 10 APFSDS, which is also the latest shell of JGSDF that came commissioned with Type 10 itself. New technologies on this dart boost both its penetration and velocity - delivering a whopping 615 mm of penetration every 4 seconds can certainly be the nightmare of any tanks trying to break through the frontline.

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| JM12A1 || HEATFS || 480 || 480 || 480 || 480 || 480 || 480
|-
| JM33 || APFSDS || 481 || 478 || 470 || 461 || 450 || 440
|-
| Type 10 || APFSDS || 615 || 613 || 604 || 592 || 582 || 571
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| JM12A1 || HEATFS || 1,140 || 13.5 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 2,150 || 65° || 72° || 77°
|-
| JM33 || APFSDS || 1,640 || 4.3 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Type 10 || APFSDS || 1,780 || 4.2 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''35''' || 15 ''(+20)'' || 1 ''(+34)'' || No
|-
|}

'''Notes''':

* Hull empty: 15 ''(+20)'' shells.
* The autoloader contains 14 shells. Once these have all been fired, the autoloader must be replenished before being able to fire again.

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|Type 74 (7.62 mm)}}

The Type 10 mounts two machine guns; one pintle-mounted 12.7 mm and one coaxial mounted 7.62 mm. These can be used as deterrent for aircraft, clearing light obstacles or crew from open-top vehicles, or spotting enemy vehicles.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Pintle || 1,000 (200) || 577 || -8°/+60° || ±180°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 74 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm Type 74]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 3,000 (250) || 701 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

Type 10, the latest MBT of the JGSDF, is designed to serve as an alternative to the previous Type 90. They share many similarities such as a high-power diesel engine and firepower, but the Type 10 also received vast upgrades in terms of protection and ammunition thanks to the advance in technology.

To handle a Type 10 to its greatest extent, players should keep in mind that speed is still their friend, but the UFP armour is also something that can be relied on thanks to its around 580 mm KE protection. Although it might not have the strongest frontal arc among top-tier tanks, this could help stop a few rounds, enhancing its survivability against its enemies. For less aggressive gameplay, Type 10 could find a ridge line and stay behind it, its gun depression and hydropneumatic suspension can further enhance its odds to survive against masses of enemies; while being aggressive is also viable, but players should keep in mind that the LFP is paper-thin in MBT standards, a well-placed shot can knock out multiple crew members, resulting in a kill for the enemy. Its tank gun with 4 second reload, superior FCS with one of the latest TVD sights and new Type 10 APFSDS certainly can be nightmares for groups of enemies trying to break through the line. Alternatively it could be a second-line tank for a group of tanks, its rate of fire certainly could save frontline players if they missed the chance to one-shot an enemy.

=== Notable Opponents ===
'''T-80BVM/T72B3'''

The Russian top mbts pose a dangerous opponent for the Type 10, they possesses good firepower and good frontal protection.

Frontally the player wants to aim lower plate or drivers port, on side shots be aware that the Russian ERA blocks may stop the shell (even one as powerful as the Type 10 APFSDS) and always note that it may take a follow-up shot to knock it out.

==== M1A2 Abrams ====
The M1A2 possesses good straight line mobility that rivals the Type 10 with superior protection and survivability.

The player wants to aim at the massive turret ring, this will usually knock out or cripple the tank - take a follow up shot if needed. If turret ring is not visible the player wants to aim at the breach or gun mantlet to knock out the gun.

==== Challenger 2 E/F/TES/Black Knight ====
The Challenger 2 is slow, large target with subpar protection against top br kinetic munitions. Though players should still beware of it's 5 second (with ace crew) reload that is almost as fast as the Type 10's (within it's ready rack range)

The player can aim at it's lower plate, drivers port or breach area.

==== Leopard 2 Series ====
Superior firepower and turret protection, these tanks have vulnerable hulls that are rather easy to penetrate with the Type 10 round.

The player can aim lower plate, if Leopard is hull down - player can aim barrel or try to knock out the breach through a turret ring shot (Warning: Turret ring shots tend to be unreliable so be careful of the angle!)

==== Leclerc(s) ====
Mobile autoloaded tanks with decent protection, the Leclerc(s) have a large weakspot in the breach area that can disable the gun or possibly knock out the tank

==== Ariete/PSO ====
Shoot it

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Relatively small profile.
* Autoloaded 120 mm cannon, 4 second reload unaffected by crew or fire.
* Quite mobile, high power-to-weight ratio of 27.3 hp/ton.
* Fitted with hydropneumatic suspension, although this can only be operated when stationary.
** Can lower the tank significantly, allowing you to hide behind relatively low hills and ridges.
* Type 10 APFSDS round is competitive (Comparable to DM53, the 'improved' round on the Leopard 2A5).
* Primary ammunition storage protected within blow-out containment in the rear of the turret.
* Has access to 3rd generation thermal sights for the gunner and commander

'''Cons:'''

* Only three crew, a well-placed shot can easily cause a full crew knock-out.
* Can only carry 15 rounds before additional ammo is stored in the unsafe hull racks.
* Hydropneumatic suspension ceases to work when the engine is hit.
* Relatively poor gun depression of -7° (contemporary MBTs have -9° or -10°) unless the suspension is used
* Armor is very unreliable with large holes and weak spots
* Slow gun handling compared to other NATO mbts
* While fast in top speed, this tank is a bit slow to accelerate
* Lack of support from developers due to Japan being a minor nation

== History ==

==== Challenges of New Millennium ====
In the mid-1990s, after the introduction of the previous TK-X, [[Type 90 (Family)|Type 90]] (Kyumaru), the Ministry of Defense (防衛省) soon realised that, despite its superior FCS even for NATO standards, further upgrading the Type 90 would be impractical (for the time being) due to its already heavy weight in Japan's standards; while the previous [[Type 61]] (Rokuichi) had no chance when facing even the earliest MBTs and [[Type 74 (Family)|Type 74]] (Nanayon) was too costly to be [[Type 74 (G)|upgraded]]. The possible rivals of Japan, like Mainland China and the Russia Federation had already developed their new MBTs (PLAGF [[ZTZ96 (Family)|ZTZ96]] and [[ZTZ99 (Family)|ZTZ99]]/Russian [[T-90A]]); in view of maintain a team of tank designers as well as a part of national defense, JGSDF passed a new plan for a next generation MBT with redundancy for further upgrades (modularity), thus inherited the project name: TK-X.
[[File:JGSDF Type10 tank 2012-05-27.jpg|x350px|right|thumb|none|A JGSDF Type 10 at Camp Takeyama, Japan.]]
==== From Kyumaru to Hitomaru ====
The TK-X project aimed for the light weight of a Type 74 (at 40 tons, loaded) while being smaller than Type 90, equipping a domestic 120 mm smoothbore gun with latest {{Annotation|C4ISR|Command, Control, Communications, Computers, Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance}} system, modular composite armour, and new engines paired with CVT transmission. TK-X was lead by Technical Research and Development Institute (防衛省技術研究本部; TRDI) with help from Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (三菱重工; MHI). The new smoothbore gun and its new APFSDS was developed by Nippon Steel Corporation (新日本製鐵) and Daikin Industries (ダイキン工業) respectively. These designs had been tested on a Tank Test Bed (TTB) developed from the 6th prototype of Type 90 and was first shown in a booklet in early 2000s; the result of TTB proved the designs and project TK-X started from 2002. The 1st prototype was assembled at November 2004 and tested at JGSDF Camp Higashi-Chitose (東千歳駐屯地); MHI built the 2nd prototype in 2005, while there were also 3 Type 90s converted as the test bed for tank platoon command systems.

Finally, with the evaluations from JGSDF Fuji School (富士学校), Ordnance School (武器学校), and leaked photos of the 2nd prototype, TK-X was unveiled on 14 June 2010 to the public during the opening of JGSDF East Fuji Maneuver Area (東富士演習場) and it was then named Type 10 at October. It served as the most advanced MBT of the first decade of the 2000s, and is an icon of the JGSDF moving forward into the 21st century.

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== See also ==


;Related Development

* [[Type 90 (Family)]] - (predecessor)

;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

* [[Leclerc (Family)]]
* [[M1 Abrams (Family)]]
* [[Leopard 2 (Family)]]
* [[Ariete (Family)]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7448-development-type-10-making-the-good-better-en|[Devblog] Type 10: Making the good, better]]

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Type 90

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| link-1 = Type 90 (Disambiguation)
| usage-2 = the variant with mounting plates for a Type 92 Mine Roller
| link-2 = Type 90 (B)
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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]].

The Type 90 MBT was initially accepted into service in 1990 as a replacement for both the [[Type 61]] and [[Type 74]] models. Despite its appearance being similar to the [[Leopard 2A4]] and mounting a license produced Rheinmetall L44-based cannon, it is significantly different in a number of aspects.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

[[File:Type 90 Density Visualisation.png|thumb|Type 90 [[Protection Density Visualisation]]]]
The Type 90 MBT was designed with inspiration from the Leopard 2A4, but sacrifices much of the 2A4's protection and survivability in order to attain a smaller profile and a lighter vehicle overall (vehicle weight is important in Japan in order to pass over their many bridges). As such, most 'improved' rounds available to other 10.0-10.3 MBTs (such as the [[Leopard 2A5]]'s DM33, or the [[Leclerc]]'s OFL 120 F1) will punch through even the Type 90's turret cheeks or upper front plate. It's important to keep in mind that even some autocannon ammunition will easily penetrate some of the weaker sections of the Type 90 from the front.

Despite the mediocre protection, the Type 90 has one main survivability feature: its primary ammunition is stored in blowout-protected compartments, sparing the crew from side shots on the rear of the turret, providing no more than 19 rounds are carried. Unfortunately, however, due to the autoloaded cannon the Type 90 is crewed by only 3, increasing the chances of being disabled from an initial shot.

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 25 mm (82°) ''Driver's hatch'' 35 mm (47-83°) ''Upper glacis'' 40 mm (44°) ''Lower glacis'' || 40 mm ''Hull'' 10 mm ''Side Skirts'' || 25 mm (16-60°) ''All rear'' 15 mm ''Engine grille'' || 25 mm (0-8°) ''Hull roof incl. engine deck'' 5 mm ''Engine grille''
|-
| Turret || 40 mm ''Cheeks incl. gunner optics'' 35 mm ''Mantlet'' 35 mm ''Rear Mantlet Plate'' || 40 mm ''Forward'' 33 mm + 80 mm (air) + 40 mm ''Middle spaced armour'' 12 mm + 80 mm (air) + 35 mm ''Rear spaced armour'' || 25 mm || 35 mm (78-83°) ''Forehead Armour'' 20 mm (90°) ''Rear turret incl. cupola''
|-
|}

'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick.
* Belly armour is 20 mm thick.
* Composite armour covers the front hull and the turret:

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Composite armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides
|-
| Hull || '''''Upper glacis''''' 320 - 450 mm ''Kinetic'' 420 - 600 mm ''Chemical'' '''''Lower glacis''''' 37 - 300 mm ''Kinetic'' 20 - 380 mm ''Chemical'' || N/A
|-
| Turret || '''''Turret cheeks''''' 400 - 450 mm ''Kinetic'' 640 - 660 mm ''Chemical'' '''''Gun mantlet''''' 275 - 375 mm ''Kinetic'' 500 - 600 mm ''Chemical'' || '''''Side forward''''' 78 - 400 mm ''Kinetic'' 81 - 490 mm ''Chemical'' '''''Side middle''''' 77 mm ''Kinetic'' 80 mm ''Chemical''
|}

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=2032|rbMinHp=1327}}

The {{PAGENAME}} is powered by a 10-cylinder two-stroke diesel engine producing a maximum of 1,500 horsepower at 2400 RPM. Combined with its relatively light weight of only 51.6 tonnes, this gives it an excellent power-to-weight ratio of 29.07. As such, the Type 90 is often one of the first vehicles to reach cap points in a match, and can comfortably flank or move into advantageous positions earlier than many of its contemporaries. This power is transferred to the drive sprockets via an automatic transmission with 7 forward and 2 backward gears, unfortunately limiting the otherwise extremely mobile vehicle to 72 km/h (RB/SB) forwards and -33 km/h (RB/SB) backwards - speeds which it will reach with ease on-road.

The {{PAGENAME}} also mounts hydropneumatic suspension, allowing it to actively change the vehicle's ride height and angle. This can be used to improve traction on angled surfaces.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|Type 90 L/44 (120 mm)}}

The Type 90 L/44 120 mm cannon is a license-produced clone of the Rheinmetall L/44 cannon found on the Leopard 2 series and the M1A1/M1A2. As such, it shares their excellent accuracy and firepower characteristics, with a key advantage: the Type 90 is autoloaded. This results in a flat 4 second reload, better than the peak manually loaded speeds available to the other L/44-mounting vehicles (6 seconds). Additionally, reloads are not hindered by fire or the loss of crew members. The Type 90 has two rounds available to it; the powerful JM33 APFSDS round (based off the NATO DM33 round) and the JM12A1 HEAT-FS round (based off DM12A1). These rounds are more than capable of penetrating any opponent the Type 90 may face, although when facing some later vehicles such as the M1A2 or Leopard 2A5, weak points must be targeted.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 90 L/44 (120 mm)|120 mm Type 90 L/44]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 42 || rowspan="2" | -7°/+10° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 28.6 || 39.5 || 48.0 || 53.1 || 56.5 || rowspan="2" | 4.00 || rowspan="2" | 4.00 || rowspan="2" | 4.00 || rowspan="2" | 4.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 17.9 || 21.0 || 25.5 || 28.2 || 30.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| JM12A1 || HEATFS || 480 || 480 || 480 || 480 || 480 || 480
|-
| JM33 || APFSDS || 481 || 478 || 470 || 461 || 450 || 440
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| JM12A1 || HEATFS || 1,140 || 13.5 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 2,150 || 65° || 72° || 77°
|-
| JM33 || APFSDS || 1,640 || 4.3 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''42''' || 38 ''(+3)'' || 19 ''(+23)'' || 1 ''(+41)'' || No
|-
|}
'''Notes''':

* Hull empty: 19 ''(+23)'' shells
* The autoloader contains 18 shells. Once these have all been fired, the autoloader must be replenished before being able to fire again.

====Optics and night vision====
The Type 90 receives night vision imagers once the tier 3 modification 'NVD' is researched. This unlocks standard 500 x 300 resolution thermal sights for the gunner, as well as standard image intensifiers for all crew (available in third person view in AB/RB additionally).

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="7" |{{PAGENAME}} [[Optics]]
|-
! rowspan="3" |Type of optic
! rowspan="3" |Magnification
! colspan="5" |[[Night Vision Devices]]
|-
! colspan="3" |Image Intensifier
! rowspan="2" |{{Annotation|Thermal Imager Resolution|The higher the resolution the clearer and more detailed the image is}}
! rowspan="2" |Notes
|-
!{{Annotation|Resolution|The higher the resolution the clearer and more detailed the image is}}
!{{Annotation|Light Mult|By how much the image intensifier amplifies the existing light, primarily useful for comparing image intensifiers}}
!{{Annotation|Noise Level|How much noise is present in the image (how grainy the image is)}}
|-
!Gunner's Sight
|8.0x - 16.1x||--||--||--||500 x 300||Intensifier & thermal sights unlocked by 'NVD' modification (tier 3)
|-
!Commander's View
|6.0x||1600 x 1200||9.0||High||N/A||Intensifier unlocked by 'NVD' modification (tier 3)
|-
!Driver's View
|1.0x||800 x 600||5.0||High||N/A||Intensifier unlocked by 'NVD' modification (tier 3)
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|Type 74 (7.62 mm)}}

The Type 90 mounts two machine guns; one pintle-mounted 12.7 mm and one coaxial mounted 7.62 mm. These can be used as deterrent for low-flying aircraft, clearing light obstacles or crew from open-top vehicles, or spotting enemy vehicles.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Pintle || 1,000 (200) || 577 || -8°/+60° || ±120°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 74 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm Type 74]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 4,500 (250) || 701 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The Type 90 is an extremely capable vehicle in the hands of an experienced tanker, but heed must be paid to the vehicle's weaknesses at all times.

'''Rural Combat'''

The Type 90 is very capable in rural combat where cover is plentiful and flanking routes are available. It should ideally be used for early flanks where available (such as the eastern flank on [[Maginot Line (Ground Forces)|Maginot Line]]) or when unavailable, pushing quickly for early captures before moving to a nearby protected location to hold that point. It's important to be aware of which routes might be sniper-covered early, as many snipers (such as the [[Challenger 2]] or [[Ariete PSO]]) will easily penetrate the Type 90, even at range - avoid giving them the opportunity.

'''Urban Combat'''

The Type 90 can prove itself to be an excellent urban combat vehicle, primarily due to its mobility and reliably fast reload. As in rural combat, an early push for a cap can prove viable before moving into a protected position, although often by the time the capture is completed enemy targets will be nearby. Early flanking (such as around the sides of [[American Desert]]) is also viable.

'''Notable Targets'''

* '''[[Challenger 2]]:''' The Challenger 2 is often found as a sniper due to its pin-point accuracy, good reload and excellent turret armour. The Type 90 should never be used to face a sniping CR2 head-on, but instead should attempt to flank or force engagements at close range where weak spots are easily targeted.
* '''[[M1A2 Abrams]]:''' The M1A2 Abrams has excellent frontal protection and can prove tricky to discern from earlier models in the heat of a battle. As a general rule it's preferable to aim for the gun mantlet or turret ring on any Abrams, despite the fact that JM33 will penetrate nearly anywhere on early models - better safe than sorry.
* '''[[Leopard 2A5]]:''' The Leopard 2A5 is very well protected, although JM33 will punch through its hull without any significant trouble. Avoid fighting a hull-down 2A5 head-on, rather taking flanking routes when available. If no choice is presented, aim for the gun mantlet or the turret ring.
* '''[[T-80U]]:''' The T-80U is extremely well protected from the front, and care should be taken when engaging - aim for the driver viewport or the lower front plate; or where these are not options try to disable its gun through the mantlet. If flanking, side shots will often knock out the T-80U in one shot.
* '''[[Leclerc]]:''' The Leclerc is extremely fast, with a power-to-weight ratio not far short of the Type 90's. When pushing early for caps or flanks, be aware that the Leclerc may be one of the first vehicles you'll counter.
* '''[[Leopard 2K]]:''' The Leopard 2K has the best power-to-weight ratio of any MBT currently in War Thunder, and it will often be capable of getting to positions before the Type 90. Keep in mind that it can be penetrated anywhere, but aware the 'bouncy' armour; aim carefully.
* '''[[AMX-40]]:''' The AMX-40 is extremely mobile and caution is advised when pushing early. Fortunately, the AMX-40 has negligible protection and JM33 will make quick work of it.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Relatively small profile despite visual similarities to the [[Leopard 2A4]].
* Autoloaded 120 mm cannon, 4 second reload unaffected by crew or fire.
* Extremely mobile, high power-to-weight of 29.07.
* Fitted with [[hydropneumatic suspension]], although this can only be operated when stationary.
* JM33 APFSDS round is serviceable (identical to DM33, the 'standard' round on the [[Leopard 2A5]]).
* Primary ammunition storage protected within blow-out containment in the rear of the turret.
* Hydropneumatic suspension can lower the tank significantly, allowing you to hide behind relatively low hills and ridges.

'''Cons:'''

* Despite having composite protection in the turret and upper front plate, it's insufficient protection for many of the tanks it will face.
* Only three crew, a well-placed shot can easily cause a full crew knock-out.
* Can only carry 19 rounds before additional ammo is stored in the unsafe hull racks.
* Hydropneumatic suspension ceases to work when the engine is hit.
* Poor stock grind - HEAT-FS is easily countered by nearly all enemies the Type 90 faces and JM33 is a tier III modification.
* Relatively poor gun depression of -7° (contemporary MBTs have -9° or -10°) unless the suspension is used
* Large and weak mantlet - 20 mm shells can rip straight through, knocking out crewmembers or destroying the breech
* JM33 struggles against top BR opponents if not aimed at weakspots

== History ==

Development of the Type 90 began almost immediately after the introduction of the Type 74 into service, with the Japanese High Command already looking for a superior replacement. A central aspect of the new machine would have to be the ability to take on and defeat the new Soviet T-72 main battle tank. With that in mind, Japanese engineers began working on a prototype design, which would see completion in 1980. Two prototypes of this initial design were built, tested and improved upon between 1980 - 1986.

Testing resumed in 1986 with a second batch of four prototype vehicles, featuring a number of improvements over the initial two. The most significant change included the replacement of a Japanese-made 120mm smoothbore gun with the established Rheinmetall 120 L/44, most notably used by the M1A1 Abrams and Leopard 2 at the time. The decision to change the gun from a domestic one to a licence-built alternative most likely came as a measure to reduce production costs. However, unlike the MBTs of western armies, the designers of the Type 90 opted to equip the tank with an autoloading mechanism, making it the only production vehicle that did so in combination with the Rh 120 cannon. Further testing and army trials of these prototypes was conducted during the late 80s before the Japanese army formally introduced the tank into service in 1990 as the Type 90. Production of the Type 90 began in 1990 and continued until 2009, with 341 vehicles made.

''- From [[wt:en/news/5499-development-type-90-the-lightweight-heavy-hitter-en|Devblog]]''

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=jp_type_90 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|p6cWlyUnJQA|'''Top 7 off-road beasts''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 4:27 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|31ZOmtzI_2g|'''The Shooting Range #107''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:35 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.|K-9ObimGTJI|'''JGSDF Type 90: Actual Sound Recording''' - ''DMM GAMES Official Channel''|G_jOfO3g_iA|'''JGSDF Type 90: 360° Video''' - ''DMM GAMES Official Channel''|xarYzM07uSk|[JP] '''Former SDF member spectates Type 90 at firing range''' (Part 1)|AyvnH_sBgrg|[JP] '''Former SDF member rides Type 90 at firing range''' (Part 2)}}

== See also ==


;Related Development

* [[Type 90 (B)]] - ('''Type 90''' with mounting plates for a Type 92 mine-roller)
* [[Type 10]] - (successor)

;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

* [[Leclerc (Family)]]
* [[M1 Abrams (Family)]]
* [[Leopard 2 (Family)]]
* [[Ariete (Family)]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/5499-development-type-90-the-lightweight-heavy-hitter-en|[Devblog] Type 90: The Lightweight Heavy Hitter]]

{{Japan medium tanks}}

Type 10

2022-04-15T06:15:08Z

U34015250: /* Pros and cons */ Added some pros and cons experience from other players and myself

{{Specs-Card
|code=jp_type_10
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]].

Also known as Hitomaru (''kun-yomi'' pronunciation of the number 10), the Type 10 MBT was initially accepted into service in 2010 (with effect in 2012) to replace or complement the existing Type 74 and Type 90 main battle tanks. Compared to its predecessors, there was a bigger emphasis on the {{Annotation|C4I system|command, control, communication, computer & intelligence}}, weight reduction, and modular armour.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

The Type 10 was designed to be a lighter yet more protected version of its predecessor, the [[Type 90]] (Kyumaru); thanks to advances in technology during the two decades and its overall design, the Type 10 reaches a high level of protection with an detachable composite block on the front of the hull, the turret has also been designed to fit new composite armour blocks. The overall protection of the hull front can reach up to 575-580 mm against kinetic rounds on average, while the turret is another story - with only frontal arc protection and around 500 mm of KE protection, chances are most darts at the same BR range can penetrate the turret with relatively ease, and turret sidescraping is not an option as the inner part of the turret has very little protection.

The lower glacis is yet another story, with its fairly large area and very low protection, it can be the death sentence of the Type 10 if the spalling after penetration spreads in a wide area and does fatal damage to the crew.

The huge hull can mitigate some spalling from KE rounds thanks to its relatively hollow battle compartment, but having only 3 crew members like the [[Type 90]] means that a loss of 2 crew will result in a knock out.

'''Armour type:''' 


{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 5 mm (35-85°) ''Upper glacis'' 40 mm (32°) ''Lower glacis'' || 30 mm ''Top'' 35 + 10 mm ''Bottom'' || 25 mm 15 mm ''Engine grille'' || 25 mm 10 mm ''Engine grille''
|-
| Turret || 5 mm ''Turret front'' 20 mm ''Gun mantlet'' 77 mm ''Rear mantlet plate'' || 5 + 35 mm || 5 + 25 mm || 20 - 40 mm
|-
| Cupola || 50 mm || 50 mm || 50 mm || 30 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick
* Turret ring is 50 mm thick and has additional 10 mm internal armour in front of it
* Belly armour is 25 mm thick
* Composite armour covers upper glacis and turret:

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Composite armour !! Front (Slope angle)
|-
| Hull || '''''Upper glacis''''' __ - __ mm ''Kinetic'' __ - __ mm ''Chemical''
|-
| Turret || '''''Turret cheeks''''' __ - __ mm ''Kinetic'' __ - __ mm ''Chemical'' '''''Gun mantlet''''' __ - __ mm ''Kinetic'' __ - __ mm ''Chemical''
|-
|}

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1626|rbMinHp=1061}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|TKG (120 mm)}}

Type 10 utilises a new domestic 120 mm smoothbore gun, developed by Nippon Steel Works; thanks to new alloy technology used on this gun, the new gun can fire rounds at even higher bore pressure, thus enhancing the penetration even more than Type 90. Another key feature is the 14 round autoloader that reloads every 4 seconds, located at the back of the turret, making Type 10 a very formidable opponent in battle.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[TKG (120 mm)|120 mm TKG]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 35 || rowspan="2" | -7°/+10° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | Two-plane || 28.6 || 39.5 || 48.0 || 53.1 || 56.5 || rowspan="2" | 4.00 || rowspan="2" | 4.00 || rowspan="2" | 4.00 || rowspan="2" | 4.00
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 17.9 || 21.0 || 25.5 || 28.2 || 30.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
The stock shell that comes with the tank is very familiar to JGSDF players: JM12A1 HEATFS, equivalent of DM12A1 and M830 HEATFS of NATO guns. At top tier, it struggles to penetrate any modern MBTs with composite armour with up to 900 mm CE protection and its explosive filler is nowhere near enough to overpressure any MBTs as well, just enough to ruin the day for lighter vehicles or SPAAGs. However, thanks to the Type 10's above average mobility, taking the flanks is still achievable; and the reload rate is forgiving for misplaced shots, players might still have a second chance to knock out the enemy's gun or the whole tank right away with its 4 second reload.

The first kinetic round is another familiar shell as well: JM33 APFSDS, equivalent of DM33, at tier I modification. Players who have experienced the Type 90 duo knows how the shell struggles when facing the masses of Soviet/Russian MBTs with sturdy front arc protection; only well-placed shots on their weak spots or lower glacis can knock them out. This is still far superior to the stock JM12A1, and should be a priority for research.

The final researchable shell is the brand new Type 10 APFSDS, which is also the latest shell of JGSDF that came commissioned with Type 10 itself. New technologies on this dart boost both its penetration and velocity - delivering a whopping 615 mm of penetration every 4 seconds can certainly be the nightmare of any tanks trying to break through the frontline.

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
|-
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
|-
| JM12A1 || HEATFS || 480 || 480 || 480 || 480 || 480 || 480
|-
| JM33 || APFSDS || 481 || 478 || 470 || 461 || 450 || 440
|-
| Type 10 || APFSDS || 615 || 613 || 604 || 592 || 582 || 571
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" | Velocity (m/s)
! rowspan="2" | Projectile Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay (m)
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity (mm)
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
|-
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
|-
| JM12A1 || HEATFS || 1,140 || 13.5 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 2,150 || 65° || 72° || 77°
|-
| JM33 || APFSDS || 1,640 || 4.3 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Type 10 || APFSDS || 1,780 || 4.2 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 78° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''35''' || 15 ''(+20)'' || 1 ''(+34)'' || No
|-
|}

'''Notes''':

* Hull empty: 15 ''(+20)'' shells.
* The autoloader contains 14 shells. Once these have all been fired, the autoloader must be replenished before being able to fire again.

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|Type 74 (7.62 mm)}}

The Type 10 mounts two machine guns; one pintle-mounted 12.7 mm and one coaxial mounted 7.62 mm. These can be used as deterrent for aircraft, clearing light obstacles or crew from open-top vehicles, or spotting enemy vehicles.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Pintle || 1,000 (200) || 577 || -8°/+60° || ±180°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[Type 74 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm Type 74]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 3,000 (250) || 701 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

Type 10, the latest MBT of the JGSDF, is designed to serve as an alternative to the previous Type 90. They share many similarities such as a high-power diesel engine and firepower, but the Type 10 also received vast upgrades in terms of protection and ammunition thanks to the advance in technology.

To handle a Type 10 to its greatest extent, players should keep in mind that speed is still their friend, but the UFP armour is also something that can be relied on thanks to its around 580 mm KE protection. Although it might not have the strongest frontal arc among top-tier tanks, this could help stop a few rounds, enhancing its survivability against its enemies. For less aggressive gameplay, Type 10 could find a ridge line and stay behind it, its gun depression and hydropneumatic suspension can further enhance its odds to survive against masses of enemies; while being aggressive is also viable, but players should keep in mind that the LFP is paper-thin in MBT standards, a well-placed shot can knock out multiple crew members, resulting in a kill for the enemy. Its tank gun with 4 second reload, superior FCS with one of the latest TVD sights and new Type 10 APFSDS certainly can be nightmares for groups of enemies trying to break through the line. Alternatively it could be a second-line tank for a group of tanks, its rate of fire certainly could save frontline players if they missed the chance to one-shot an enemy.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Relatively small profile.
* Autoloaded 120 mm cannon, 4 second reload unaffected by crew or fire.
* Quite mobile, high power-to-weight ratio of 27.3 hp/ton.
* Fitted with hydropneumatic suspension, although this can only be operated when stationary.
** Can lower the tank significantly, allowing you to hide behind relatively low hills and ridges.
* Type 10 APFSDS round is competitive (Comparable to DM53, the 'improved' round on the Leopard 2A5).
* Primary ammunition storage protected within blow-out containment in the rear of the turret.
* Has access to 3rd generation thermal sights for the gunner and commander

'''Cons:'''

* Only three crew, a well-placed shot can easily cause a full crew knock-out.
* Can only carry 15 rounds before additional ammo is stored in the unsafe hull racks.
* Hydropneumatic suspension ceases to work when the engine is hit.
* Relatively poor gun depression of -7° (contemporary MBTs have -9° or -10°) unless the suspension is used
* Armor is very unreliable with large holes and weak spots
* Slow gun handling compared to other NATO mbts
* While fast in top speed, this tank is a bit slow to accelerate
* Lack of support from developers due to Japan being a minor nation

== History ==

==== Challenges of New Millennium ====
In the mid-1990s, after the introduction of the previous TK-X, [[Type 90 (Family)|Type 90]] (Kyumaru), the Ministry of Defense (防衛省) soon realised that, despite its superior FCS even for NATO standards, further upgrading the Type 90 would be impractical (for the time being) due to its already heavy weight in Japan's standards; while the previous [[Type 61]] (Rokuichi) had no chance when facing even the earliest MBTs and [[Type 74 (Family)|Type 74]] (Nanayon) was too costly to be [[Type 74 (G)|upgraded]]. The possible rivals of Japan, like Mainland China and the Russia Federation had already developed their new MBTs (PLAGF [[ZTZ96 (Family)|ZTZ96]] and [[ZTZ99 (Family)|ZTZ99]]/Russian [[T-90A]]); in view of maintain a team of tank designers as well as a part of national defense, JGSDF passed a new plan for a next generation MBT with redundancy for further upgrades (modularity), thus inherited the project name: TK-X.
[[File:JGSDF Type10 tank 2012-05-27.jpg|x350px|right|thumb|none|A JGSDF Type 10 at Camp Takeyama, Japan.]]
==== From Kyumaru to Hitomaru ====
The TK-X project aimed for the light weight of a Type 74 (at 40 tons, loaded) while being smaller than Type 90, equipping a domestic 120 mm smoothbore gun with latest {{Annotation|C4ISR|Command, Control, Communications, Computers, Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance}} system, modular composite armour, and new engines paired with CVT transmission. TK-X was lead by Technical Research and Development Institute (防衛省技術研究本部; TRDI) with help from Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (三菱重工; MHI). The new smoothbore gun and its new APFSDS was developed by Nippon Steel Corporation (新日本製鐵) and Daikin Industries (ダイキン工業) respectively. These designs had been tested on a Tank Test Bed (TTB) developed from the 6th prototype of Type 90 and was first shown in a booklet in early 2000s; the result of TTB proved the designs and project TK-X started from 2002. The 1st prototype was assembled at November 2004 and tested at JGSDF Camp Higashi-Chitose (東千歳駐屯地); MHI built the 2nd prototype in 2005, while there were also 3 Type 90s converted as the test bed for tank platoon command systems.

Finally, with the evaluations from JGSDF Fuji School (富士学校), Ordnance School (武器学校), and leaked photos of the 2nd prototype, TK-X was unveiled on 14 June 2010 to the public during the opening of JGSDF East Fuji Maneuver Area (東富士演習場) and it was then named Type 10 at October. It served as the most advanced MBT of the first decade of the 2000s, and is an icon of the JGSDF moving forward into the 21st century.

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== See also ==


;Related Development

* [[Type 90 (Family)]] - (predecessor)

;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

* [[Leclerc (Family)]]
* [[M1 Abrams (Family)]]
* [[Leopard 2 (Family)]]
* [[Ariete (Family)]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7448-development-type-10-making-the-good-better-en|[Devblog] Type 10: Making the good, better]]

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