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HMAS Tobruk

2024-05-14T04:01:44Z

U31467399: added the protection segment

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} British destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
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''Tobruk'' is armored similarly to her predecessor ''Armada''. She possesses light plating around her primary and anti-air magazines and thin layers of anti-fragmentation protection guard the rangefinder, bridge, 4.5in and 40mm turrets, and barbettes. This armor will resist destroyer caliber HE and falter against anything heavier. In addition, ''Tobruk''<nowiki/>'s magazines are not fully situated under the waterline, and are thus vulnerable to direct fire.

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}
''Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.''

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=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armament ==
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=== Primary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Primary}}
{{main|4.5 inch/45 QF Mark V (114 mm)}}

''Provide information about the characteristics of the primary armament. Evaluate their efficacy in battle based on their reload speed, ballistics and the capacity of their shells. Add a link to the main article about the weapon: <code><nowiki>{{main|Weapon name (calibre)}}</nowiki></code>. Broadly describe the ammunition available for the primary armament, and provide recommendations on how to use it and which ammunition to choose.''

{{:4.5 inch/45 QF Mark V (114 mm)/Ammunition|4.5 inch HE, 4.5 inch SAP, 4.5 inch HE-TF, 4.5 inch HE-VT}}

=== Secondary armament ===
{{Specs-Fleet-Secondary}}
{{main|QF Mark VII (40 mm)|QF STAAG Mark II (40 mm)}}

''Some ships are fitted with weapons of various calibres. Secondary armaments are defined as weapons chosen with the control <code>Select secondary weapon</code>. Evaluate the secondary armaments and give advice on how to use them. Describe the ammunition available for the secondary armament. Provide recommendations on how to use them and which ammunition to choose. Remember that any anti-air armament, even heavy calibre weapons, belong in the next section. If there is no secondary armament, remove this section.''

* '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}
* '''40 mm HE clips:''' {{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}
* '''40 mm AP clips:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer}}

{{:QF Mark VII (40 mm)/Ammunition|HEFI-T, AP-T}}

=== Additional armament ===
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{{main|Mk.IX** (533 mm)}}

''Describe the available additional armaments of the ship: depth charges, mines, torpedoes. Talk about their positions, available ammunition and launch features such as dead zones of torpedoes. If there is no additional armament, remove this section.''

== Usage in battles ==


HMAS Tobruk is similar to her sister ship in the British tech tree, [[HMS Armada]]. While the Tobruk has a slower top speed and loses a main battery gun it gains better turret traverse and an even more impressive secondary 40 mm battery. The Tobruk is a fantastic fast assault ship thanks to its forward-mounted main battery. Use the excellent rate of fire and turret traverse to push the enemy constantly while keeping a small profile to reduce any incoming damage. Don't be afraid to bully patrol boats with the Tobruk's excellent turret traverse and the colossal number of 40 mm guns. At close ranges the torpedoes can be very effective thanks to their good damage. With a large crew size for a destroyer and decent armour protection where it matters don't be afraid to weather some fire before retreating. Use the opportunity of cover from islands to hide the bulk of your ship. Keep your front turrets pointed outwards to harass oncoming ships.

The Tobruk is a great destroyer but not a cruiser and shouldn't be used to fight them. The small calibre of the shells means even the SAP rounds are pretty hopeless against cruisers. Cruiser guns will happily negate the armour that the Tobruk does boast so avoid them at all costs in a solo encounter. If you have teammates to back you up the Tobruk is a great compliment to a mixed team when bringing its large quantity of torpedoes to bear on larger targets. The Tobruk gets good torpedoes of significant quantity. This is offset by launchers that turn slowly and have a poor firing arc, especially the forward-most launcher. Only use the torpedoes if you can avoid enemy fire or if the enemy is already in your firing arc. Turning your ship in order to make use of the torpedoes negates your narrow profile advantage and makes you an easy target. From the side the Tobruk is a big ship.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* High rate of fire with the main battery guns, 20 rounds per minute sustained with no second-stage ammo system
* Efficient AA/auxiliary armament of multiple 40 mm guns, which can make short work of both aircraft and patrol boats, as well as damaging destroyers at close range
* Decent armour protection over ammo storage and the main guns, more than many destroyers get
* Very fast turret traverse can be a nasty surprise for enemy ships that try to flank you, and make the guns very effective against aircraft if used in that role
* Plenty of torpedoes

'''Cons:'''

* Small calibre of main shells makes fighting cruisers completely futile
* Torpedo launchers have poor traverse and firing arcs, making them difficult to use safely or effectively
* Turrets are big, flat targets, meaning they get knocked out easily by direct hits

== History ==

[[File:HMAS Tobruk (AWM 301573).jpg|thumb|HMAS Tobruk in Jervis Bay, circa. 1954-1958. Note the two Mk VI gun turrets ahead of her superstructure.]]
The Battle Class, HMAS ''Tobruk'' was a destroyer of the Battle class commissioned for the Australian navy. As one of the two-ship "Australian Battle" class, she featured an improved main armament and more advanced gunnery equipment. She was commissioned too late to see service in the Second World War, but served in the Korean war and Malayan Emergency. She was severely damaged in a gunnery accident in 1960, and was written off and sold for scrap.

'''<big>Design and development</big>'''

The Battle class, the predominant late-war British destroyer design before the emergence of the Daring class, was designed to be built in several flotillas. The 1943 "Battles" were thus known as the "Early Battle Class". The United Kingdom intended to build the later Battle class ships with the new QF 4.5 inch Mark VI turret, but these ships were cancelled in early 1945 due to the end of hostilities in the western theatre. However, two ships had been laid down by the Australian navy, which were built and completed nevertheless, to be known as the "Australian Battle" Class ships. Construction was very slow, and ''Tobruk'' wasn't commissioned until the early 1950s.

HMAS ''Tobruk'' displaced 3400 tons full, making her very large for a WWII-era destroyer. She carried a main armament of four 4.5 inch QF Mark VI guns in two twin turrets - these advanced turrets were capable of firing at 20 rounds per minute (RPM). Tobruk carried an anti-aircraft armament of twelve 40 mm Bofors guns in three dual and six single mounts, as well as two quintuple torpedo tubes. Fitted with steam turbines developing 50 000 shaft horsepower, she was able to make 31.5 knots (58 km/h).

<big>'''Operational history'''</big>

After her commissioning in 1951, ''Tobruk'' was deployed to the Korean Theatre to assist naval operations there, primarily serving as a shore bombarder and carrier escort. She returned to Australia in late 1952 for a refit, then deployed to Korea again, this time staying until 1954. After she returned home, ''Tobruk'' underwent a refit, and was deployed as part of an Australian naval squadron to southeast Asia (the Far East Strategic Reserve). She later served during the Malayan Emergency, and received a second battle star (her first in Korea) for it. In September of 1960, ''Tobruk'' was conducting exercises with her sister ship ''Anzac'' when a targeting error caused a shell from ''Anzac'' to hit her; the damage was severe, and two of ''Anzac's'' crew members were charged for the accident. It was deemed that the damage was uneconomical to repair, and as a result, ''Tobruk'' was placed in reserve and later scrapped.

=== [[wt:en/news/6487-development-hmas-tobruk-advance-australia-en|Devblog]] ===
HMAS Tobruk was one of two late Battle-class destroyers of the so-called "Australian Battle-class" design. These were based on a cancelled third and final batch of Battle-class destroyers ordered for the Royal Navy in the late stages of WWII. Nonetheless, the Australian government proceeded with ordering the construction of two ships of this subclass, thus earning it its name.

HMAS Tobruk was the second of the two ships to be ordered and was laid down on 5 August 1946 in Sydney. Being built in the immediate postwar years meant that construction progressed slowly, resulting in the ship being only commissioned into RAN service in May 1950.

From there, HMAS Tobruk took part in several conflicts of the 1950s, such as the Korean War and the Malayan Emergency, earning the ship two battle honours. In the late 1950s, HMAS Tobruk was subjected to its first of two friendly fire incidents, which caused light structural damage and the loss of one crew member.

The second incident, which also sealed HMAS Tobruk's fate, occurred in September 1960. Namely, the ship was once again hit by friendly fire, this time coming from her sistership HMAS Anzac during a gunnery exercise off Jervis Bay. However, the damage was severe enough to be considered uneconomical to perform repairs, resulting in the ship being decommissioned in late 1960.

HMAS Tobruk undertook its final sea voyage under tow to Japan where the ship was ultimately broken up for scrap in 1972.

In War Thunder, HMAS Tobruk will be a new destroyer coming to rank III of the British naval forces tree as part of the upcoming update 1.95 "Northern wind". Compared to the existing Battle-class destroyer in game - HMS Armada - HMAS Tobruk offers its aspiring captains improved anti-air firepower and survivability, coming at the cost of slightly reduced mobility and a cut down primary armament suit.

== Media ==


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== See also ==
''Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the ship;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6487-development-hmas-tobruk-advance-australia-en|[Devblog] HMAS Tobruk: Advance Australia!]]

=== References ===

* Royal Australian Navy. (2020, August 05). HMAS Tobruk (I). Retrieved January 04, 2021, from <nowiki>https://www.navy.gov.au/hmas-tobruk-i</nowiki>

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SC-497

2019-11-13T18:20:09Z

U31467399: /* Special armament */

{{Specs-Card|code=us_sc_497}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{Break}}
The '''{{specs|name}}''' is a rank {{specs|rank}} American sub-chaser {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]] as part of the fleet closed beta test.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===


This ship's armor is negligible, being built entirely of wood. Don't count on it.

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the ship’s mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward speed and reverse speed.''

== Armament ==
=== Primary armament ===

{{main|Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (40 mm)}}

This ship is armed with an excellent 40mm Bofors gun. The gun is great at clearing out PT boats, and with good aim can pop PT boats in a single hit with ammo detonations. The gun however does jam quite often under sustained fire. Use the mixed belt as it gives a good balance between AP and HE shells.

=== Secondary armament ===

{{main|Oerlikon Mk.II (20 mm)}}

The ship has three Oerlikon 20mm cannons for a secondary armament. These are great guns that will deal well against aircraft and PT boats, but they will rip into larger ships with ease. As with the Bofors, keep them on the mixed belt for the same reasons listed above.

=== Special armament ===

{{main|Mk.6 depth charge|K-gun Mk.9 depth charge|7.2 in T37}}

The ship has "Hedgehog" charge launchers and depth charges. These are not very useful, and can be detonated by enemy gunfire. However, they pack a large punch if aimed right at close range.

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don’t get try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Powerful 40 mm Bofors gun can rip apart small ships with ease
* Good AA defense
* Has access to depth charges and "Hedgehog" mortar depth charges

'''Cons:'''

* Not very fast
* Armor leaves some things to be desired
* 40 mm gun tends to jam fairly quickly

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''

== Media ==
''An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the ship;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''encyclopedia page on ship;''
* ''other literature.''

{{USA sub-chasers}}

SC-497

2019-11-13T03:45:06Z

U31467399: Filled in page

PC-451

2019-11-13T03:35:14Z

U31467399: Filled the page out

{{Specs-Card|code=us_pc_451}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{Break}}
The '''{{specs|name}}''' is a rank {{specs|rank}} American sub-chaser {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]] as part of the fleet closed beta test.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
The PC-451 is the first ship in the USA line to gain all-round steel armor protection, with between 5-8 millimeters or protection on all areas. This allows the ship to be mostly immune to .50 fire and under, while also giving good protection against 20mm fire when angled well. However, when not angled those shells will have no problem penetrating through.

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the ship’s mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward speed and reverse speed.''

== Armament ==
=== Primary armament ===
The PC-451's primary armament is a 3-inch cannon which gives it considerable stopping power. Well placed shots can disable smaller craft with ease and do major damage to larger ships. Use the HE shells when facing lower ranked enemies, and the AP shells when up-tiered. The HE-VT shells can be effective against aircraft while being used as mini HE shells, but using them in that fashion is not ideal.

''Add a link to the main article about the weapon: <code><nowiki>{{main|Weapon name (calibre)}}</nowiki></code>.''

=== Secondary armament ===
The PC-41 is armed with a large amount of 20mm Oerlikons , some in twin mounts and some in single mounts. These double as both AA weapons and a secondary armament and are capable of punching through most armor. Use the default belts, due to their equal mix of AP and HE shells. The AP shells give them a good amount of penetrating power, enough to pierce most armor at your BR, while keeping enough HE to deal with lighter targets.

=== Special armament ===
The PC-451 is armed with both depth charges and charge mortars. With enough daring, one can use them to give a huge punch to other vessels, but they will more likely be hit by fire and damage your ship. It is not recommended to take them unless you believe you can use them effectively.

== Usage in battles ==

This ship is an excellent vehicle even in an uptier compared to other US boats due to the steel armour, 20 mm secondary armaments, and a 76 mm cannon able to knock out a a PT boat. Though the armour is good enough against even a small crowd of PT boats, larger ships with bigger guns could still destroy the PC-451 with ease.

During a match, the {{PAGENAME}} is best used somewhat during the middle or towards the end of a match as the second or third spawn. The number of players attempting to torpedo will go down, while planes will start spawning in. Using the secondary weapons, the PC-451 can bring down multiple enemies and rack up points. However, dedicated and skilled pilots can still get a drop on the PC-451 if left unattended with all of the PC-451's firepower.

In terms of shell selection for the main armament, which consists of Fuse, HE, and APHE, bring Fuse and HE during downtiers as the HE can cripple boats easily while the Fuse can be used to target aircraft, adding the main armament into the defensive network the 20 mm secondaries provide already. In uptiers, HE and AP are recommended for dealing with more persistent boats. While destroyers could be damaged with the HE, anything further than 3 km away should be engaged with the AP shell in order to penetrate through armour.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* The 3-inch gun is powerful for its rank
* Powerful AA defense
* First US ship to receive all-out steel armour

'''Cons:'''

* Not very fast
* 3-inch gun can be difficult to master for newer players

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''

== Media ==
''An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the ship;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''encyclopedia page on ship;''
* ''other literature.''

{{USA sub-chasers}}