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M36 (Japan)

2023-09-07T15:47:37Z

U30255107: Correcting erroneous claims that the Japanese M36 is of the B2 variant. It is not and can be proven as such by a look at its engine deck.

{{About
|about = tank destroyer '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
|usage = other versions
|link = M36 Jackson (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=jp_m36b2_jgsdf
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' were M36B2s assembled at the Japanese depot of Akabane to be shipped to the Korean Peninsula to fight in the Korean War among US troops. Not meant for Japanese service, a single ''standard'' M36 was redirected to the JGSDF for research purposes in assistance towards the domestic tank program of the Japanese, which would eventually become the [[Type 61]].

It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]]. The Japanese M36 GMC is essentially the same as the [[M36 GMC]], with a few improvements. It has a new muzzle brake and bore evacuator. It uses the later M82A1 round which increases penetration. It also has a hull MG, and roof armour that is 6 mm thick. The most attractive feature of this M36 is its HEAT-FS ammunition, which can easily destroy most targets.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

The armour of the turret roof is only 6.5 mm thick, the sides are 17-31.75 mm thick and ammo stowage is only 25.4 mm thick, this makes it vulnerable against attacks from aircraft, artillery strikes, SPAAGs, overpressure and machine guns (namely 50. caliber and above). The M36B2 is notably tall and large for a tank destroyer, which makes it harder to conceal and somewhat limits what type of cover is effective.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Transmission area)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 38.1 mm (56°) ''Front glacis'' 50.8-107.8 (9-63°) ''Transmission housing''
|19.05 mm (37°) ''Top'' 25.4 mm ''Bottom''
|19.05 mm (42°) ''Top'' 19.05 (1-45°) ''Bottom''
|19.5 mm ''Front roof'' 9.5 mm ''Engine deck''
|-
| Turret ||31.75 mm (2-53°) ''Turret front'' 76.2 mm (°) ''Gun mantlet''
|31.75 mm (0-21°)||25.4 mm (2-23°)|| 6.5 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:'''

* Tracks are 20 mm thick, bogies are 10 mm thick while the wheels are 20 mm thick.
* Small slivers of 5 mm armour hang off the top side hull armour, giving minuscule protections at those areas.
* Track blocks on the side hull armour allows an extra 20 mm of armour at their locations.

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


The lacklustre acceleration makes the tank struggle greatly with climbing slopes, hills and limits its manoeuvrability, the engine upgrades only somewhat alleviate this issue.

{{tankMobility|abMinHp=582|rbMinHp=363}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|M3A1 (90 mm)}}
The 10° gun depression gives the M36B2 the capability to shoot over hills. The reload speed is pretty long with a loaded ready rack, making engagements more dangerous, especially if there is a lack of cover.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M3A1 (90 mm)|90 mm M3A1]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 47 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 21.1 || 29.3 || 35.5 || 39.3 || 41.8 || rowspan="2" | 9.75 || rowspan="2" | 8.63 || rowspan="2" | 7.95 || rowspan="2" | 7.50
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 14.3 || 16.8 || 20.4 || 22.6 || 24.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{{:M3A1 (90 mm)/Ammunition|M318 shot, M82 shot, M304 shot, M332 shot, M348 shell, M71 shell, M313}}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''47''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|M1919A4 (7.62 mm)}}

The M36 has a roof-mounted M2HB to shoot down low altitude planes. It can also be effectively used against light armoured vehicles to great effect.

In the hull, the radio operator gunner has the ability to use a M1919A4 light machine gun which, other than spotting and against unarmoured vehicles, can't provide much anti-vehicle support.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Pintle || 1,000 (200) || 577 || -10°/+70° || ±60°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M1919A4 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M1919A4]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Hull || 2,000 (250) || 500 || ±10° || ±10°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Fast speed
* Roof cover to protect from air attacks
* Fast turret traverse
* Carries a powerful gun
* HEATFS and APCBC to fight German heavies and post-war vehicles
* Browning .50 cal to deal with light vehicles and aircraft

'''Cons:'''

* Slow and lacking in manoeuvrability when stock
* Most opponents can penetrate your thin armour with autocannons, guns, and bombs
* Roof armour is 6.5 mm thick, meaning most cannons and rifle-calibre weaponry can knock out the crew
* HEATFS explodes on fences and bushes
* Useless APCR shell
* Stock APBC is mediocre
* HEATFS sometimes requires extra shots for destroying heavily-armoured targets

== History ==

{{main|M36_GMC#History|l1=History of the M36 GMC}}

=== M36s in Japan ===
Due to the outbreak of the Korean War, the GHQ (General Headquarters of Allied occupation) ordered Japan to re-militarize, while the US also provided plenty of [[M4A3 (76) W (Japan)|M4A3 (76) W]] and [[M24 (Japan)|M24]] tanks to help Japan form their armed police force, the NPR (National Police Reserve), so more US forces could fight in Korea while Japan could still maintain reserve manpower for defense. Multiple M36B2s were assembled at a depot in Akabane which would be shipped to the Korea peninsula to support South Korean and American forces.

Contrary to popular belief, the M36 sent to the Japanese was ''NOT'' of the B2 variant. Instead, it was a standard M36 which had been rearmed with the M3A1 gun. This can be proven by a look at its engine deck, which can positively identify what engine the vehicle is using since the size and shape of the grills wildly differed depending on what engine was used. The standard M36's grills wide and rectangular due to the fact it is based on the M10A1 and thus uses a larger and stronger 500hp engine. The M36B2, on the other hand, is based on the ''standard'' M10 hull and thus uses a 410hp engine, which resulted in smaller square grills. The Japanese M36 features the former and is thus a standard M36.

However, the tanks that the NPR received were too big for the average Japanese tanker. In order to replace the obsolete Sherman and Chaffee tanks, Japan got a M36B2 for research purposes to help develop a new domestically designed tank, which would eventually be developed into the [[Type 61]].

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=jp_m36b2_jgsdf Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|WE6zWmBlfSk|'''The Shooting Range #318''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:26 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[M36 Jackson (Family)]]

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{TankManufacturer Ordnance Department}}
{{Japan tank destroyers}}

M36 (Japan)

2023-09-07T15:29:08Z

U30255107: /* Description */

{{About
|about = tank destroyer '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
|usage = other versions
|link = M36 Jackson (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=jp_m36b2_jgsdf
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' were M36B2s assembled at the Japanese depot of Akabane to be shipped to the Korean Peninsula to fight in the Korean War among US troops. Not meant for Japanese service, a single ''standard'' M36 was redirected to the JGSDF for research purposes in assistance towards the domestic tank program of the Japanese, which would eventually become the [[Type 61]].

It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]]. The Japanese M36 GMC is essentially the same as the [[M36 GMC]], with a few improvements. It has a new muzzle brake and bore evacuator. It uses the later M82A1 round which increases penetration. It also has a hull MG, and roof armour that is 6 mm thick. The most attractive feature of this M36 is its HEAT-FS ammunition, which can easily destroy most targets.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}

The armour of the turret roof is only 6.5 mm thick, the sides are 17-31.75 mm thick and ammo stowage is only 25.4 mm thick, this makes it vulnerable against attacks from aircraft, artillery strikes, SPAAGs, overpressure and machine guns (namely 50. caliber and above). The M36B2 is notably tall and large for a tank destroyer, which makes it harder to conceal and somewhat limits what type of cover is effective.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Transmission area)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 38.1 mm (56°) ''Front glacis'' 50.8-107.8 (9-63°) ''Transmission housing''
|19.05 mm (37°) ''Top'' 25.4 mm ''Bottom''
|19.05 mm (42°) ''Top'' 19.05 (1-45°) ''Bottom''
|19.5 mm ''Front roof'' 9.5 mm ''Engine deck''
|-
| Turret ||31.75 mm (2-53°) ''Turret front'' 76.2 mm (°) ''Gun mantlet''
|31.75 mm (0-21°)||25.4 mm (2-23°)|| 6.5 mm
|-
|}

'''Notes:'''

* Tracks are 20 mm thick, bogies are 10 mm thick while the wheels are 20 mm thick.
* Small slivers of 5 mm armour hang off the top side hull armour, giving minuscule protections at those areas.
* Track blocks on the side hull armour allows an extra 20 mm of armour at their locations.

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


The lacklustre acceleration makes the tank struggle greatly with climbing slopes, hills and limits its manoeuvrability, the engine upgrades only somewhat alleviate this issue.

{{tankMobility|abMinHp=582|rbMinHp=363}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|M3A1 (90 mm)}}
The 10° gun depression gives the M36B2 the capability to shoot over hills. The reload speed is pretty long with a loaded ready rack, making engagements more dangerous, especially if there is a lack of cover.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M3A1 (90 mm)|90 mm M3A1]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 47 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 21.1 || 29.3 || 35.5 || 39.3 || 41.8 || rowspan="2" | 9.75 || rowspan="2" | 8.63 || rowspan="2" | 7.95 || rowspan="2" | 7.50
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 14.3 || 16.8 || 20.4 || 22.6 || 24.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{{:M3A1 (90 mm)/Ammunition|M318 shot, M82 shot, M304 shot, M332 shot, M348 shell, M71 shell, M313}}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! 6th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''47''' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __ ''(+__)'' || __
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|M1919A4 (7.62 mm)}}

The M36 has a roof-mounted M2HB to shoot down low altitude planes. It can also be effectively used against light armoured vehicles to great effect.

In the hull, the radio operator gunner has the ability to use a M1919A4 light machine gun which, other than spotting and against unarmoured vehicles, can't provide much anti-vehicle support.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Pintle || 1,000 (200) || 577 || -10°/+70° || ±60°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M1919A4 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M1919A4]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Hull || 2,000 (250) || 500 || ±10° || ±10°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Fast speed
* Roof cover to protect from air attacks
* Fast turret traverse
* Carries a powerful gun
* HEATFS and APCBC to fight German heavies and post-war vehicles
* Browning .50 cal to deal with light vehicles and aircraft

'''Cons:'''

* Slow and lacking in manoeuvrability when stock
* Most opponents can penetrate your thin armour with autocannons, guns, and bombs
* Roof armour is 6.5 mm thick, meaning most cannons and rifle-calibre weaponry can knock out the crew
* HEATFS explodes on fences and bushes
* Useless APCR shell
* Stock APBC is mediocre
* HEATFS sometimes requires extra shots for destroying heavily-armoured targets

== History ==

{{main|M36_GMC#History|l1=History of the M36 GMC}}

=== M36s in Japan ===
Due to the outbreak of the Korean War, the GHQ (General Headquarters of Allied occupation) ordered Japan to re-militarize, while the US also provided plenty of [[M4A3 (76) W (Japan)|M4A3 (76) W]] and [[M24 (Japan)|M24]] tanks to help Japan form their armed police force, the NPR (National Police Reserve), so more US forces could fight in Korea while Japan could still maintain reserve manpower for defense. Multiple M36B2s were assembled at a depot in Akabane which would be shipped to the Korea peninsula to support South Korean and American forces.

However, the tanks that the NPR received were too big for the average Japanese tanker. In order to replace the obsolete Sherman and Chaffee tanks, Japan got a M36B2 for research purposes to help develop a new domestically designed tank, which would eventually be developed into the [[Type 61]].

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=jp_m36b2_jgsdf Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|WE6zWmBlfSk|'''The Shooting Range #318''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:26 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[M36 Jackson (Family)]]

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{TankManufacturer Ordnance Department}}
{{Japan tank destroyers}}

M48A2 C

2023-06-11T12:37:59Z

U30255107: /* History */

{{About
| about = German medium tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = M48 Patton (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=germ_mkpz_m48a2c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}


'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull roof, hull rear - engine vents, turret roof, turret ring)
* Cast homogeneous armour (hull, turret, cupola)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 85-200 mm (59-74°) ''Front glacis'' 63-200 mm (13-60°) ''Lower glacis'' || 76 mm (5-45°) ''Front'' 51 mm (0-44°) ''Rear'' || 35 mm ''Top'' 25 mm (32-62°) ''Bottom'' || 57 mm (0-58°) 30 mm ''Engine access panel'' 12.7 mm (76°) ''Engine vents''
|-
|Turret || 83.2-173 mm (0-48°) ''Turret front'' 152 + 82 mm (17-26°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 69-100 mm (12-36°) || 51-55 mm (2-71°) 25.4 mm (75-82°) ''Underpart of the turret'' || 25-69 mm
|-
|Cupola || colspan="4" style="text-align:center" | 70 mm
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels, tracks and torsion bars are 20 mm thick.
* The turret ring is 70 mm thick.

The armour of the {{PAGENAME}} is identical to the M48A1. The ammo rack in the turret is removed and the shape of the front hull ammo racks are improved. The front armour is able to handle almost most APHE shells it might face, but struggles against HEATFS and APDS rounds. The lower front plate is a weak spot. The sides are decently armoured, but not thick enough to make angling the hull a valid tactic. Some thin vents on the top of the hull are vulnerable to strafing runs by enemy aircraft, which may cause engine fires. Overall, the {{PAGENAME}} has excellent armour protection for its tier.

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,279|rbMinHp=730}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|M41 (90 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M41 (90 mm)|90 mm M41]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 64 || rowspan="2" | -9°/+19° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 22.8 || 31.6 || 38.4 || 42.5 || 45.2 || rowspan="2" | 9.75 || rowspan="2" | 8.63 || rowspan="2" | 7.95 || rowspan="2" | 7.50
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 14.3 || 16.8 || 20.4 || 22.6 || 24.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{{:M41 (90 mm)/Ammunition|M332 shot, M82 shot, M431 shell, DM502, M71 shell, M313}}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''64''' || 57 ''(+7)'' || 46 ''(+18)'' || 28 ''(+36)'' || 21 ''(+43)'' || 1 ''(+63)'' || No
|-
|}
'''Notes''':

* Shells are modeled by sets of 2 and disappear from the rack after you've fired both shells in the set.
* Racks 4 and 5 are first stage ammo racks. They total 27 shells and get filled first when loading up the tank.
** These racks are also emptied early: the depletion order at full capacity is: 4 - 5 - 1 - 2 - 3.
** Full reload speed will be realized as long as shells are available in the ready racks 4 and 5. If both ready racks are empty, a penalty to reload speed will occur.
** Simply not firing when the gun is loaded will move ammo from racks 1 to 3 into rack 5 then 4. Firing will interrupt the restocking of the ready racks.
* If you pack 21 ''(+43)'' shells, it will keep the front hull and the turret bustle empty of ammo.

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|M73 (7.62 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Pintle || 1,360 (200) || 577 || -10°/+60° || ±180°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M73 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M73]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 5,950 (250) || 500 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

'''Stock Gameplay:'''

The stock grind of the M48A2 C is problematic since the M332 APCR shot is the only stock ammunition provided, excluding the HE shell. Because of the lacklustre performance of APCR shots against angles, and the limited post-penetration damage it inflicts, players need to aim very carefully. Players may find the most success through flanking, and assisting teammates disable enemy armour. Sticking close to allies is near mandatory, as being caught off guard with the APCR is often times a death sentence. Players should prioritize unlocking the M82 APCBC round immediately, as it improves the tank's offensive capability significantly. Along with the M48A2 C's decent manoeuvrability while stock, flanking with the APCBC shell is a viable, and quite effective, option.

'''Spaded Gameplay:'''

The M48A2 C is a powerful tank. The M431 HEATFS round has adequate penetration, and in the event that a round with higher post penetration effects is needed, the M82 APCBC is also available. The gun and reload rate are comparable to other main battle tanks of the battle rating, although the M48A2 C relies on its HEATFS round for most situations. The armour on the M48A2 C is adequate, able to bounce enemy shells depending on the angle. The night vision image intensifier equipment and IR lamp can be a big advantage during night battles, but M48A2 C players should be careful not to expose themselves using their own IR lamp. The M48A2 C does not excel spectacularly in any way, but it is an adequate medium tank that is well suited to most situations.

'''Close Range Engagements:'''

The M48A2 C is capable at close range, but it is not exceptional. It has decent acceleration and gun handling, meaning it will do decently. Additionally the armour can prove useful even at close range. The only issue for the M48A2 C at close range is the post penetration on the HEATFS round. Generally using the APCBC round is more effective at close ranges.

'''Long Range Engagements:'''

The M48A2 C is very capable at long range. The HEATFS round will easily penetrate almost any enemy tank at any range. The biggest issues the M48A2 C will face in regards to long range engagements is the velocity and drop on the HEATFS round. Once this can be accounted for, it will perform very well. Additionally, the armour is even more effective at long range.

'''Gameplay summary:'''

Although the M48A2 C is very difficult to play when stock, it is an adequate frontline tank while spaded. The good HEATFS round gives it a strong position in the German tech tree. The M48A2 C is a true main battle tank, and will perform well in any situation. The one disadvantage the M48 may suffer from is a lack of a stabilizer on the main gun. While most tanks which it faces also lack stabilization, those that have it will have a big advantage over the M48A2 C.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Decent frontal hull armour, impenetrable UFP for most conventional ammo
* Good firepower
* Good mobility
* Has a commander's .50 calibre machine gun
* APCBC round with devastating high-explosive filler for great damage upon penetration
* Surprisingly survivable, two crew members often survive a shot
* Gun mantlet tend to stop conventional rounds
* More favourable matchmaking compared to other 90-mm armed M48 Pattons

'''Cons:'''

* Difficult APCR stock grind
* Turret armour isn't reliable
* Commander's cupola weak spot
* Ineffective armour in an uptier
* No stabilizer
* Ammunition explosions are common as most of the shells are in the front next to the driver

== History ==


In the mid 1950s, West Germany received several versions of the M48 Patton III tank from the US. Of these versions were the standard M48A2 and the M48A2C, the latter featuring the M13 fire control system and lacking the rear track tension roller present on the standard M48A2. Later on, these vehicles would be modified by the Germans. They would receive IR equipment, new storage boxes, and banks of four smoke grenades on either side of the turret face. These upgrades were not performed on all German M48A2s and was thus not standardized, however, the vehicles that did receive the upgrades would be unofficially referred to as M48A2 G and M48A2 C G, similar to the M47 which was unofficially referred to as M47 G after it received a similar upgrade. (The vehicle represented in-game is an M48A2 C G) These upgraded vehicles would see service until the 1970's were it was replaced by the M48A2 GA2.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=germ_mkpz_m48a2c Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|Xwid3UCLr5U|'''The Patton Family''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 6:57 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[M48 Patton (Family)]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6317-development-changes-and-optimization-in-the-german-tech-tree-en|[Development] Changes and optimization in the German tech-tree]]

{{TankManufacturer Chrysler Defense}}
{{Germany medium tanks}}

M48A2 C

2023-06-09T13:01:16Z

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{{About
| about = German medium tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = M48 Patton (Family)
}}
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|code=germ_mkpz_m48a2c
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|ArtImage_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}


'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull roof, hull rear - engine vents, turret roof, turret ring)
* Cast homogeneous armour (hull, turret, cupola)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 85-200 mm (59-74°) ''Front glacis'' 63-200 mm (13-60°) ''Lower glacis'' || 76 mm (5-45°) ''Front'' 51 mm (0-44°) ''Rear'' || 35 mm ''Top'' 25 mm (32-62°) ''Bottom'' || 57 mm (0-58°) 30 mm ''Engine access panel'' 12.7 mm (76°) ''Engine vents''
|-
|Turret || 83.2-173 mm (0-48°) ''Turret front'' 152 + 82 mm (17-26°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 69-100 mm (12-36°) || 51-55 mm (2-71°) 25.4 mm (75-82°) ''Underpart of the turret'' || 25-69 mm
|-
|Cupola || colspan="4" style="text-align:center" | 70 mm
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels, tracks and torsion bars are 20 mm thick.
* The turret ring is 70 mm thick.

The armour of the {{PAGENAME}} is identical to the M48A1. The ammo rack in the turret is removed and the shape of the front hull ammo racks are improved. The front armour is able to handle almost most APHE shells it might face, but struggles against HEATFS and APDS rounds. The lower front plate is a weak spot. The sides are decently armoured, but not thick enough to make angling the hull a valid tactic. Some thin vents on the top of the hull are vulnerable to strafing runs by enemy aircraft, which may cause engine fires. Overall, the {{PAGENAME}} has excellent armour protection for its tier.

=== Mobility ===
{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}}


{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,279|rbMinHp=730}}

=== Modifications and economy ===
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== Armaments ==
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=== Main armament ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|1}}

{{main|M41 (90 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M41 (90 mm)|90 mm M41]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
|-
! ''Arcade''
| rowspan="2" | 64 || rowspan="2" | -9°/+19° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 22.8 || 31.6 || 38.4 || 42.5 || 45.2 || rowspan="2" | 9.75 || rowspan="2" | 8.63 || rowspan="2" | 7.95 || rowspan="2" | 7.50
|-
! ''Realistic''
| 14.3 || 16.8 || 20.4 || 22.6 || 24.0
|-
|}

==== Ammunition ====
{{:M41 (90 mm)/Ammunition|M332 shot, M82 shot, M431 shell, DM502, M71 shell, M313}}

==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Full ammo
! 1st rack empty
! 2nd rack empty
! 3rd rack empty
! 4th rack empty
! 5th rack empty
! Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''64''' || 57 ''(+7)'' || 46 ''(+18)'' || 28 ''(+36)'' || 21 ''(+43)'' || 1 ''(+63)'' || No
|-
|}
'''Notes''':

* Shells are modeled by sets of 2 and disappear from the rack after you've fired both shells in the set.
* Racks 4 and 5 are first stage ammo racks. They total 27 shells and get filled first when loading up the tank.
** These racks are also emptied early: the depletion order at full capacity is: 4 - 5 - 1 - 2 - 3.
** Full reload speed will be realized as long as shells are available in the ready racks 4 and 5. If both ready racks are empty, a penalty to reload speed will occur.
** Simply not firing when the gun is loaded will move ammo from racks 1 to 3 into rack 5 then 4. Firing will interrupt the restocking of the ready racks.
* If you pack 21 ''(+43)'' shells, it will keep the front hull and the turret bustle empty of ammo.

=== Machine guns ===
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}}
{{Specs-Tank-Weapon|3}}

{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|M73 (7.62 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Pintle || 1,360 (200) || 577 || -10°/+60° || ±180°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="5" | [[M73 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M73]]
|-
! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
|-
| Coaxial || 5,950 (250) || 500 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

'''Stock Gameplay:'''

The stock grind of the M48A2 C is problematic since the M332 APCR shot is the only stock ammunition provided, excluding the HE shell. Because of the lacklustre performance of APCR shots against angles, and the limited post-penetration damage it inflicts, players need to aim very carefully. Players may find the most success through flanking, and assisting teammates disable enemy armour. Sticking close to allies is near mandatory, as being caught off guard with the APCR is often times a death sentence. Players should prioritize unlocking the M82 APCBC round immediately, as it improves the tank's offensive capability significantly. Along with the M48A2 C's decent manoeuvrability while stock, flanking with the APCBC shell is a viable, and quite effective, option.

'''Spaded Gameplay:'''

The M48A2 C is a powerful tank. The M431 HEATFS round has adequate penetration, and in the event that a round with higher post penetration effects is needed, the M82 APCBC is also available. The gun and reload rate are comparable to other main battle tanks of the battle rating, although the M48A2 C relies on its HEATFS round for most situations. The armour on the M48A2 C is adequate, able to bounce enemy shells depending on the angle. The night vision image intensifier equipment and IR lamp can be a big advantage during night battles, but M48A2 C players should be careful not to expose themselves using their own IR lamp. The M48A2 C does not excel spectacularly in any way, but it is an adequate medium tank that is well suited to most situations.

'''Close Range Engagements:'''

The M48A2 C is capable at close range, but it is not exceptional. It has decent acceleration and gun handling, meaning it will do decently. Additionally the armour can prove useful even at close range. The only issue for the M48A2 C at close range is the post penetration on the HEATFS round. Generally using the APCBC round is more effective at close ranges.

'''Long Range Engagements:'''

The M48A2 C is very capable at long range. The HEATFS round will easily penetrate almost any enemy tank at any range. The biggest issues the M48A2 C will face in regards to long range engagements is the velocity and drop on the HEATFS round. Once this can be accounted for, it will perform very well. Additionally, the armour is even more effective at long range.

'''Gameplay summary:'''

Although the M48A2 C is very difficult to play when stock, it is an adequate frontline tank while spaded. The good HEATFS round gives it a strong position in the German tech tree. The M48A2 C is a true main battle tank, and will perform well in any situation. The one disadvantage the M48 may suffer from is a lack of a stabilizer on the main gun. While most tanks which it faces also lack stabilization, those that have it will have a big advantage over the M48A2 C.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Decent frontal hull armour, impenetrable UFP for most conventional ammo
* Good firepower
* Good mobility
* Has a commander's .50 calibre machine gun
* APCBC round with devastating high-explosive filler for great damage upon penetration
* Surprisingly survivable, two crew members often survive a shot
* Gun mantlet tend to stop conventional rounds
* More favourable matchmaking compared to other 90-mm armed M48 Pattons

'''Cons:'''

* Difficult APCR stock grind
* Turret armour isn't reliable
* Commander's cupola weak spot
* Ineffective armour in an uptier
* No stabilizer
* Ammunition explosions are common as most of the shells are in the front next to the driver

== History ==


In the mid 1950's, West Germany received several version of the M48 Patton III tank from the US. Of these versions were the standard M48A2 and the M48A2C, the ladder of which featured the M13 fire control system and three return rollers as opposed to the five present on the standard M48A2. Later on, these vehicles would be modified by the Germans. They would receive IR equipment, new storage boxes, and banks of four smoke grenades on either side of the turret face. These upgrades were not performed on all German M48A2s and was thus not standardized, however, the vehicles that did receive the upgrades would be unofficially referred to as M48A2 G and M48A2 C G similar to the M47, which was unofficially referred to as M47 G after it received a similar upgrade. (The vehicle represented in-game is an M48A2 C G) These upgraded vehicles would see service until the 1970's were it was replaced by the M48A2 GA2.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=germ_mkpz_m48a2c Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
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== See also ==


;Related development

* [[M48 Patton (Family)]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/6317-development-changes-and-optimization-in-the-german-tech-tree-en|[Development] Changes and optimization in the German tech-tree]]

{{TankManufacturer Chrysler Defense}}
{{Germany medium tanks}}