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CL-13B Mk.6 (Germany)

2019-09-30T18:43:21Z

U19256764: Changed and extended the pros/cons and filled the performance chart

{{Specs-Card|code=f-86_cl_13b_mk6}}
{{About
| about = German jet fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| other
| usage-1 = the other German Sabre
| link-1 = CL-13A Mk 5
| usage-2 = other uses
| link-2 = F-86 (Family)
}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.87 "Locked On"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight Performance ===
''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="8" | Characteristics
|-
! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - at sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (meters)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (meters/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (meters)
|-
! AB
! RB
! AB
! RB
! AB
! RB
|-
| 1,113 || 1,106 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 22.1 || 23.2 || 51.4 || 46.9 || 650
|-
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - at sea level)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude (meters)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb (meters/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run (meters)
|-
! AB
! RB
! AB
! RB
! AB
! RB
|-
| 1132 || 1122 || || 21.2 || 21.5 || 75.3 || 62.5 || 650
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="5" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps
! Take-off flaps
! Landing flaps
! Air brakes
! Arrestor gear
|-
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="5" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Combat flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! +
! -
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|constructions}} || {{Specs|destruction|chassis}} || 620 || ~12 || ~6
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
|-
! Ailerons (km/h)
! Rudder (km/h)
! Elevators (km/h)
! Radiator (km/h)
|-
| < 850 || < 600 || < 650 || N/A
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
|-
! Optimal altitude
! 100% Engine power
! WEP Engine power
|-
| 0 m || 3,105 kgf || N/A
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

== Armaments ==
=== Offensive armament ===

{{main|Browning M3 (12.7 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* 6 x 12.7 mm Browning M3 machine guns, nose-mounted (300 rpg = 1,800 total)

=== Suspended armament ===

{{main|AN-M65A1 Fin M129 (1,000 lb)|AIM-9B|HVAR}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 16 x HVAR rockets
* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)
* 2 x AIM-9B missiles

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Manual Engine Control ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
|-
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
|-
! Oil
! Water
! Type
|-
| Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Not controllable Auto control available || rowspan="2" | Not controllable Auto control available || rowspan="2" | Combined || rowspan="2" | Not controllable 1 gear || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
|-
|}

=== Modules ===
{| class="wikitable"
! colspan="1" | Tier
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
! colspan="1" | Survivability
! colspan="2" | Weaponry
|-
| I
| Fuselage repair
| Compressor
|
| Offensive 12 mm
|
|-
| II
| New boosters
|
| Airframe
|
| FRC mk.2
|-
| III
| Wings repair
| Engine
|
| New 12 mm MGs
| FLBC mk.1
|-
| IV
| G-suit
|
| Cover
|
| AIM-9B
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Respectable armament of 6 x 12.7 mm M3 machine guns
* Unlike the earlier [[CL-13A Mk 5]] and the [[MiG-19S (Germany)|German MiG-19]], it can equip Sidewinder missiles
* Good high-speed manoeuvrability
* Relatively low stall speed for a jet
* Good slow speed manoeuvrability due to extendable slats
* Plenty of ammunition, enough for 15s of continious fire (120 rounds/s)
* High roll rate
* Great turn rate
* Good gun velocity (890m/s tracer belts)
* Great climb >60m/s @ sea level (spaded)
* Good energy retention

'''Cons:'''

* Wing rip occurs easily at high speeds/G-forces when flying with 20 min fuel
* Machine gun armament lacks the stopping power compared to autocannons
* Poor engine performance at higher altitude
* Bad fuel options: either 6 min or 20 min

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== Encyclopedia Info ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==
''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Germany jet aircraft}}

NS-23 (23 mm)

2019-05-04T06:16:31Z

U19256764: /* Pros and cons */ spelling error fixed

== Description ==

The NS-23 is a 23 mm autocannon which can be found on some Russian props and jets.

=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===

{{Navigation-Start|Vehicles equipped with this weapon}}
{{Navigation-First-Line|Fighters}}{{Specs-Link|la-9}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|la-11}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-9p}}
(Modification){{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-9ut}}
{{Navigation-Line|Jet fighters}}{{Specs-Link|mig-9}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mig-15_ns23}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mig-15bis_ish}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-15}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-17}}
{{Navigation-Line|Attacker}}{{Specs-Link|il-10_1946}}
{{Navigation-End}}

== General info ==
''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.''

=== Available shells ===


The NS-23 has the following shells available :

* '''AP-I'''

Armor piercing incendiary shells with 29 mm penetration, shell velocity: ~610 m/s

* '''FI-T'''

Fragmentation incendiary tracer shells with ~3 mm penetration, shell velocity: ~690 m/s

The following belts are available:

* '''Default belts''' (AP-I, FI-T, AP-I, FI-T)
* '''Ground target belts''' (AP-I, AP-I, AP-I, FI-T)
* '''Air targets belts''' (FI-T, FI-T , FI-T, AP-I)
* '''Stealth belts''' (AP-I, AP-I, AP-I, AP-I)

It's recommended to use Air targets belts as the FI-T shells are way more effective against planes than the AP-I shells. Although if one haven't researched the "Offensive 23mm" modification yet, the default belts will usually get the job done just fine. The Ground target belts or Stealth belts are well suited for top-down approaches on tanks because of the 29 mm penetration on the AP-I shells, which makes it possible to penetrate most tanks engine deck from a top-down approach. Bear in mind that the AP-I shells doesn't have any tracer elements so it can be tricky to hit sometimes.

=== Comparison with analogues ===


The 23mm shells weight approximately 200 gram each compared to the 20 mm [[ShVAK (20 mm)|ShVAK]]-shells that weights only 90 gr e.a so even though the ShVAK offers a higher fire rate the damage of the NS-23 can make up for the loss of fire rate.

The NS-23 is identical to the [[NR-23 (23 mm)|NR-23]] except for the lower fire rate. The NS-23 has a fire rate of ca 600 rpm whereas the [[NR-23 (23 mm)|NR-23]] has a 50% higher fire rate of 900 rpm, but with that comes higher ammo consumption and recoil.

== Usage in battles ==


Due to the high damage of the 23 mm cannons, firing short bursts is usually enough because only a few rounds need to connect to eliminate an enemy fighter, this also saves ammo which is usually in short supply for the planes using the NS-23s. For taking down bombers one should, as with most guns, aim for critical points to avoid wasting ammo and down the plane quickly.

Because the shells have a lower velocity than most guns (e.g. [[ShVAK (20 mm)|ShVAK]] having around 800-900 m/s compared to NS-23 600-700 m/s), a bit more lead must be used for the shells to connect. This is more of a problem in jet matches because the lead can be hard to approximate when targets are moving fast. Though this is likely not going to be a huge problem because of the tracer rich ammo belts, especially when going against slower propeller planes.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Lower fire rate can help conserve ammo and lower the recoil
* High damage shells, no need to shoot for longer durations
* High fire rate for gun of caliber
* Has enough penetration for top-down attacks on most tanks

'''Cons:'''

* Low velocity
* Low overall rate of fire, planes can sometimes "pass between the shells" during continuous fire
* No stealth belts for air targets (if one doesn't want to use AP-I shells)

== History ==
''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of this weapon. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''

== Media ==
''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''

== See also ==


* [[ShVAK (20 mm)|ShVAK]]
* [[NR-23 (23 mm)|NR-23]]

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''encyclopedia page on the weapon;''
* ''other literature.''

{{USSR aircraft cannons}}

[[Category:Aircraft cannons]]

NS-23 (23 mm)

2019-05-03T14:46:40Z

U19256764: Edited and extended the article

== Description ==

The NS-23 is a 23 mm autocannon which can be found on some Russian props and jets.

=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===

{{Navigation-Start|Vehicles equipped with this weapon}}
{{Navigation-First-Line|Fighters}}{{Specs-Link|la-9}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|la-11}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-9p}}
(Modification){{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-9ut}}
{{Navigation-Line|Jet fighters}}{{Specs-Link|mig-9}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mig-15_ns23}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mig-15bis_ish}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-15}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-17}}
{{Navigation-Line|Attacker}}{{Specs-Link|il-10_1946}}
{{Navigation-End}}

== General info ==
''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.''

=== Available shells ===
The NS-23 has the following shells available :

* '''AP-I'''

Armor piercing incendiary shells with 29mm penetration, shell velocity: ca 610 m/s

* '''FI-T'''

Fragmentation incendiary tracer shells with ca 3mm penetration, shell velocity ca 690 m/s

The following belts are available:

* '''Default belts''' (AP-I, FI-T, AP-I, FI-T)
* '''Ground target belts''' (AP-I, AP-I, AP-I, FI-T)
* '''Air targets belts''' (FI-T, FI-T , FI-T, AP-I)
* '''Stealth belts''' (AP-I, AP-I, AP-I, AP-I)

It's recommended to use Air targets belts as the FI-T shells are way more effective against planes than the AP-I shells. Although if one haven't researched the "Offensive 23mm" modification yet the default belts will usually get the job done just fine. The Ground target belts or Stealth belts are well suited for top down approaches on tanks because of the 29mm penetration on the AP-I shells which makes it possible to penetrate most tanks engine deck from a top down approach. Bear in mind that the AP-I shells doesn't have any tracer elements so it can be tricky to hit sometimes.

=== Comparison with analogues ===
The 23mm shells weight approximately 200gr e.a compared to the 20mm [[ShVAK (20 mm)|ShVAK]]-shells that weights only 90 gr e.a so even though the ShVAK offers a higher fire rate the damage of the NS-23 can make up for the loss of fire rate.

The NS-23 is identical to the [[NR-23 (23 mm)|NR-23]] except for the lower fire rate. The NS-23 has a fire rate of ca 600 rpm whereas the [[NR-23 (23 mm)|NR-23]] has a 50% higher fire rate of 900 rpm, but with that comes higher ammo consumption and recoil.

== Usage in battles ==

Due to the high damage of the 23mm cannons firing short bursts is usually enough because only a few rounds need to connect to eliminate an enemy fighter, this also saves ammo which is usually in short supply for the planes using the NS-23s. For taking down bombers one should, as with most guns, aim for critical points to avoid wasting ammo and securing a quick kill.

Because the shells have a lower velocity than most guns (eg [[ShVAK (20 mm)|ShVAK]] having around 800-900m/s compared to NS-23 600-700 m/s) a bit more lead must be used for the shells to connect. This is more of a problem in jet matches because the lead can be hard to approximate when targets are moving fast. Though this is likely not going to be a huge problem because of the tracer rich ammo belts, especially when going against slower propeller planes.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Lower fire rate can help conserve ammo and lower the recoil
* High damage shells, no need to shoot for longer durations
* High fire rate for gun of caliber
* Has enough penetration for top down attacks on most tanks

'''Cons:'''

* Low velocity
* Low rate of fire, planes can sometimes "pass between the shells" during continuous fire
* No stealth belts for air targets (if one doesn't want to use AP-I shells)

== History ==
''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of this weapon. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''

== Media ==
''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* [[ShVAK (20 mm)|ShVAK]]
* [[NR-23 (23 mm)|NR-23]]

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''encyclopedia page on the weapon;''
* ''other literature.''

{{USSR aircraft cannons}}

[[Category:Aircraft cannons]]