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CA Lorraine

2019-04-05T10:49:27Z

U177059: Wikipedia link added

{{Specs-Card|code=fr_lorraine_100}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{specs|name}}''' (100 mm Lorraine assault gun), or abbreviated '''{{specs|pseudonym}}''', is a Rank {{specs|rank}} French tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. It presents a very classic TD design: Casemate gun platform and powerful armament. While lacking a bit in terms of armour, it surely compensates with superior mobility.

The CA Lorraine is an intermediate between a [[SU-85]] and a lowered [[Jagdpanther|Jagdpanther]]. It is distinguishable for having rubber road wheels instead of metal ones, two huge fans atop the engine deck (much like the German Jagdpanther), a very pointy gun mantlet pointing outwards from the casemate and quite a large, rounded commander's cupola. In some ways, it is quite similar to the fearsome [[AMX-50 Foch|AMX 50 ''Foch'']], this can scare away some cowardly foe.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

Its sloped, medium thickness frontal armour will not protect you from anything bigger than SPAA shots (some may even get through in close quarters) ''but'' it is certainly sufficient for what it is designed to do: protecting from stray bullets in long range engagements. Side and top armour are also quite weak so don't expect to survive any kind of surprise coming from side or top. Still, this tank has 5 crew members, which can often save it from a (too) quick death.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour (Casemate hull)
* Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Driver's hatch)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 50 mm (55°) ''Front glacis'' 35 mm (60°) ''Lower glacis'' 60-150 (0-88°) + 35-60 mm (2-88°) ''Gun mantlet''|| 30 mm (15°) ''Front'' 30 mm ''Bottom'' || 25 mm (23°) ''Top'' 25 mm (55°) ''Bottom'' || 20 mm 8 mm ''Engine grille''
|-
! Armour !! Sides !! Roof
|-
| Cupola || 50 mm || 20 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick.

=== Mobility ===

If anyone thought the [[Lorraine 40t]] was a sprinter, this is even better. The CA Lorraine is ''fast''. Not only in forward motion is it fast, it can retreat at a decent, constant, -16 km/h and it has ability to neutral steer, these enable fast reaction to quickly changing battlefield odds such as flanking maneuvers or enemy breakthrough. An experimented player can take clear advantage over its foes by achieving good placement and this tank is the perfect tool for this task.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Add-on Armour weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
| rowspan="2" | 25.0 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 68 (AB)
|-
|62 (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|973
|_,___
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|606
|685
|-
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|11.25
|__.__
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|7.00
|7.92
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|SA47 L/58 (100 mm)}}

This gun platform uses the usual French rank IV 100 mm SA47 L/58 cannon with a twist: it has no autoloader mechanism, hence making reload time ''twice'' as long. Keep that in mind as your foes get closer and closer to you: these precious 15 seconds of reload time are the perfect time to intent a frontal attack, even more so since you don't even have automatic firepower of any form.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[SA47 L/58 (100 mm)|100 mm SA47 L/58]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 40 || -6°/+16° || ±9° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 5.3 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 3.6 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 15.6 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| 100 mm Obus de rupture || APCBC || 295 || 293 || 279 || 263 || 248 || 233
|-
| 100 mm Obus explosif || HE || 22 || 22 || 21 || 20 || 20 || 20
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| 100 mm Obus de rupture || APCBC || 1,060 || 15 || N/A || N/A || N/A || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| 100 mm Obus explosif || HE || 1,000 || 15 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 1,400 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks {{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''40''' || 31 ''(+9)'' || 21 ''(+19)'' || 11 ''(+29)'' || 1 ''(+39)'' || style="text-align:left" | no
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

This tank sits with confidence at BR 6.0 as a regular tank destroyer. There is nothing very special to it but it performs good in most situations. Use your good mobility to take a competitive spot and ''reposition'' every now and then : once you get spotted, it is already too late. Hopefully, this tank's awesome mobility and ''neutral steering'' will make your day easier.

Use this tank as a classic tank destroyer while enjoying its great mobility. Any good move with a casemate TD is a good move with this tank.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* Good firepower, uses the same gun as [[AMX-50|AMX-50-100]] and [[Lorraine 40t]]
* Very good reverse speed
* Low profile
* Wide tracks
* Capable of neutral steering
* Strong gun mantlet may bounce shots
* Fast with very good maneuverability
* Awesome power ratio: 38+ HP/ton

'''Cons:'''

* Thin armour (50 mm) sloped at 55°
* Very thin side and top armour: not a frontline tank
* Weak LFP at 35mm (60°)
* Reload rate is not impressive
* Poor gun depression (-6)
* Lacks HE filler in AP shots
* No coaxial MG
* Low gun placement
* Only two shell types
* Somewhat weak optic zoom
* Large hull
* Large ammo racks on both sides of the hull

== History ==

The CA Lorraine was developed and tested in the late 1940s, but never saw active service.

== Media ==

Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=france&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=fr_lorraine_100 CA Lorraine] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-50#Char_Lorraine [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> AMX-50 - Char Lorraine]

{{France tank destroyers}}

Lorraine 155 Mle.50

2019-04-05T10:48:13Z

U177059: Wikipedia link added / Link to Skins in WT Live

{{Specs-Card|code=fr_lorraine_155}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (shortened as '''{{Specs|pseudonym}}''') is a gift rank {{Specs|rank}} French tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm"]] during the 2018 [[WW2 Chronicles|World War Two Chronicles]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

The Lorraine 155 Mle.50 has very little armour (although some are sloped enough to deflect certain low-rank rounds), and can generally be penetrated by most guns of its rank. Even worse, however, the 'casemate' (if it can even be called that) has very little armour, and in some places can be shot through with machine guns. The commander (operating the 151) is completely open to the elements. Generally, you want to rely on good map placement and mobility, rather than armour.

'''Armour type:'''
* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Structural steel
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 16 mm (70°) ''Front glacis'' 16 mm (2-73°) ''Transmission housing'' || 16 mm || 10 mm (0-42°) || 10 mm
|-
| Superstructure || 16 mm (21°) ''Front'' 10 mm ''Gun shield'' || 16 mm (30°) ''Right side'' 16 mm (21-48°) ''Left side'' || 10 mm || 10 mm
|-
! Armour !! Sides !! Roof
|-
| Cupola || 10 mm || N/A
|}
'''Notes:'''
* Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick while tracks, sprocket wheels, torsion bars, and return rollers are 20 mm thick.
* Belly armour is 10 mm thick.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Add-on Armour weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
| rowspan="2" | 28.0 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 59 (AB)
|-
|55 (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|639
|787
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|398
|450
|-
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|22.82
|28.11
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|14.21
|16.07
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|L'Obusier de 155 Modèle 1950 howitzer (155 mm)|l1=L'Obusier de 155 Modèle 1950 (155 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[L'Obusier de 155 Modèle 1950 howitzer (155 mm)|155 mm L'Obusier de 155 Modèle 1950]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 30 || -5°/+67° || ±20° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 26.0 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| M107 || HE || 53 || 53 || 53 || 53 || 53 || 53
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| M107 || HE || 563 || 41 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 6,620 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="7" | Smoke characteristic
|-
! Ammunition
! Velocity in m/s
! Projectile Mass in kg
! ''Screen radius in m''
! ''Screen time in s''
! ''Screen hold time in s:''
! ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
|-
| M110 || 563 || 41 || 25 || 5 || 30 || 50
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |6th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''30''' || XX ''(X+)'' ||  ''(+)'' ||  ''(+)'' ||  ''(+)'' ||  ''(+)'' ||  ''(+)'' || style="text-align:left" | Turret empty:  () || style="text-align:left" | no
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===

{{main|MG 151/20 (20 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | [[MG 151/20 (20 mm)|20 mm MG151/20]]
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Commander's mount''
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 400 (250) || 700 || -8°/+45° || ±180°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The best method of using the large-calibre weapon on the Loraine is to exploit the high-explosive power against thin-armour on the enemy. Like other large calibre HE tanks, shooting below an enemy vehicle will penetrate its belly armor. This is an effective, albeit difficult way to engage tanks whose armor is greater than what your HE shell can penetrate.

Some targets to keep in mind of, and their weak points:
* Tiger I - While seemingly a hard enemy to face, the Tiger is easily dispatched with a side shot. A hit to the roadwheels will penetrate the tank, with the shell fragments going through the thin armor on the underside of the tank's sponson. This is also possible to do to Tiger IIs, but usually results in much less damage done.
* Tiger II P, Panthers D and A - a hit to the bottom of the curved turret face of these tanks will cause the HE shell to pen the roof of the vehicle. This can also be done on tanks with flat turret fronts ( Tiger I, Tiger II H, Panthers G and F) by aiming for the lower half of the turret, but is not as reliable.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* Powerful 155mm gun with a HE shell on-par with the KV-2's gun
* Pintle-mounted 20mm cannon that is deadly to lightly-armoured vehicles and aircraft
* Decent mobility
* Thin armour can allow APHE rounds to penetrate through harmlessly without detonating

'''Cons:'''

* Thin armor with an open casemate, allows even rifle-calibre rounds to affect the crew
* Large profile
* Long reload time; increases if the loader is taken out
* If the commander is knocked out, so is the ability to use the 20mm cannon
* No AP shells, only HE shells
* Bad gun depression of 5°

== History ==

Prototypes of the Lorraine 155 Mle.50 passed trials in 1950, but never reached production.

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=france&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=fr_lorraine_155 Lorraine 155 Mle.50] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obusier_de_155_mm_Mod%C3%A8le_50 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Obusier de 155mm Modèle 50]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-50#Char_Lorraine [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> AMX-50 - Char Lorraine]

{{France tank destroyers}}
{{France premium ground vehicles}}

L3/33 CC

2019-04-05T10:37:28Z

U177059: Wikipedia link added

{{Specs-Card|code=it_l3_cc}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage L3 33 CC.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (shortened to ''{{Specs|pseudonym}}'') is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].

The L3/33 CC is an Italian tank that is the Warthunder Equivalent of a Shoebox on tracks with a gun. This vehicle has very little armour which allows for it to quickly and deftly maneuver the battlefield, scouting for pockets to position the vehicle for tactical advantages against the slower and heavier enemy vehicles at a close range.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 8 mm (79°) ''Front glacis'' 14 mm (0°) ''Lower glacis'' || 14 mm || 8 mm (0-32°) || 8 mm 5 mm ''Hatches''
|-
| Superstructure || 14 mm (13-64°) 14 mm (0-62°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 14 mm (0-15°) || 14 mm (0-17°) || 8 mm 5 mm ''Hatches''
|-
|}

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability as well as the maximum speed forward and backwards.''

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|Fucile Controcarri S Mod.39 (20 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Fucile Controcarri S Mod.39 (20 mm)|20 mm Fucile Controcarri S Mod.39]]
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="2" | 110 (10) || 30 || ±15° || ±10° || Vertical
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 17.6 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 11.9 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 7.8 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Perforante mod.35 || APHE || 40 || 38 || 29 || 20 || 14 || 10
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Perforante mod.35 || APHE || 832 || 0.14 || 1.3 || 15 || 1.7 || ° || 47° || 60° || 65°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_L3 33 CC.png|right|x250px|thumbnail|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the L3/33 CC]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |6th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |7th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |8th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |9th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |10th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |11th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''11''' || 10 ''(+1)'' || 9 ''(+2)'' || 8 ''(+3)'' || 7 ''(+4)'' || 6 ''(+5)'' || 5 ''(+6)'' || 4 ''(+7)'' || 3 ''(+8)'' || 2 ''(+9)'' || 1 ''(+10)'' || 0 ''(+11)'' || style="text-align:left" | No
|-
|}

== Usage in the battles ==

The L3/33 CC is best used in ambushes, as this tactic allows it to strike from close distance; an hill can provide a nice spot for this, as the L3 has 15 degrees of gun depression and can get to cover by simply reversing if it is spotted in time.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''
* Small enough vehicle profile to utilize a variety of cover in the field
* Due to its small surface area, it is very easy to almost be completely cover in bushes, making it very hard to spot in most maps when standing still
* Great gun depression (-15°)
'''Cons:'''
* Main gun difficult to use on all but soft targets over 400 m away
* Almost non existent armour, can be pierced by .50 MG from the front
* 2 man crew

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/historical reference" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/Name-vehicles/historical reference) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to include links to sources at the end of the article.''

== Media ==

===Live.Warthunder===
[https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=it_l3_cc '''Skins''' and '''camouflages''' for the L3/33 CC from live.warthunder.com.]

== Read also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
''ETC.''

== Sources ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L3/33 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> L3/33]

{{Italy tank destroyers}}

JPz 4-5

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{{Specs-Card|code=germ_kanonenjagdpanzer}}

== Description ==
''In the description, the first part needs to be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert the screenshot of the vehicle. If the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, they will immediately understand what kind of vehicle it is talking about.''

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat?''

''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and maneuverability as well as the maximum speed forward and backward.''

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===
''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

=== Additional armament ===
''Some tanks are armed with several guns in one or more turrets. Evaluate the additional weaponry and give advice on its use. Describe the ammunition available for additional weaponry. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage. If there is no additional weaponry remove this subsection.''

=== Machine guns ===
''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft, but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''

'''Pros:'''
*

'''Cons:'''
*

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=germany&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=germ_kanonenjagdpanzer JPz 4-5] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanonenjagdpanzer [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Kanonenjagdpanzer]

{{Germany tank destroyers}}

Jagdtiger

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{{Specs-Card|code=germ_panzerjager_tiger}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_Jagdtiger.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''Jagdpanzer VI Jagdtiger''' is a Rank V German tank destroyer with a battle rating of 7.3 (AB) and 7.0 (RB/SB). It was introduced during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before Update 1.41.

The Jagdtiger is a heavy tank destroyer, designed to take out targets from a distance, this is shown as in game the tank truly shines at long range combat where maneuverability and weak spots don't become as much as a threat, but the biggest benefit for long range firing is the 128mm PaK44 L/55 Main Cannon, this gun can pierce over 200mm of non-sloped armour at '''2000 METERS''' with APCBC Rounds. The PaK44 was the largest anti-tank weapon in service during World War II, nothing rivaled its penetrating capability nor its combat range, and it was easily capable of taking out any fielded allied tank in a single hit. As it was essentially a modification of a naval gun, the ammunition was still 2-part (shot and charge) and could be fired with less charge for close range high explosive shells.

At mid-long range is invincible versus APHE & the majority of HESH ammunition, only APDS & HEAT can penetrate it frontally. Common enemies are end of the line [[T-10M]] and the American [[M103|M103]] both of which can pierce any part of tank armour with ease. Fortunately the pure armour strength limits the amount of spalling.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

'''Armour type:'''
*Rolled homogeneous armour
*Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet)
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides (Slope angle) !! Rear (Slope angle) !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 150 mm (49°) ''Front glacis'' 100 mm (49°) ''Bottom glacis'' || 80 + 5 mm (26°) || 80 mm (28-29°)|| 50 mm
|-
| Superstructure || 250 mm (2-28°) || 80 mm (26°) || 80 mm || 45 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''
*Front of the tank is almost impossible to defeat, its armour is great, only the sides and rear are vulnerable.
*The lower glacis is pretty vulnerable, but a ''hulldown'' position can protect it.
*The superstructure side is covered with tracks, which provides another 30 mm extra armour to the sides.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
!colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Add-on Armor weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
|rowspan="2" | 75.2 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 45 (AB)
|-
|42 (RB/SB)
|-
!colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|994
|___
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|619
|700
|-
!colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|13.22
|__.__
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|8.23
|9.31
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|PaK 44 (128 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[PaK 44 (128 mm)|128 mm PaK 44]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 40 || -7°/+14° || ±10° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 4.40 || _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 4.40 || _.__ || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 23.60 || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| PzGr || APC || 266 || 264 || 237 || 207 || 180 || 157 ||
|-
| PzGr 43 || APCBC || 269 || 267 || 253 || 237 || 222 || 208
|-
| Sprgr || HE || 36 || 36 || 36 || 36 || 36 || 36
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| PzGr || APC || 930 || 28 || 0.8 || 28 || 786.5 || -1° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| PzGr 43 || APCBC || 930 || 28 || 0.8 || 28 || 786.5 || +4° || 48° || 63° || 71
|-
| Sprgr || HE || 750 || 28 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 3,700 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_Jagdtiger.png|thumbnail|right|x250px|Ammo racks of the Jagdtiger.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Ammo Part
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |6th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |7th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''40''' || style="text-align:right" | ''Projectiles'' ''Propellants'' ||33 ''(+7)'' 33 ''(+7)'' || 28 ''(+12)'' 28 ''(+12)'' || 23 ''(+17)'' 23 ''(+17)'' || 17 ''(+23)'' 17 ''(+23)'' || 11 ''(+29)'' 11 ''(+29)'' || 6 ''(+34)'' 6 ''(+34)'' || 1 ''(+39)'' 1 ''(+39)'' || no
|}

=== Machine guns ===

{{main|MG 34 (7.92 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | [[MG 34 (7.92 mm)|7.92 mm MG 34]]
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Hull mount''
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity each)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 3,000 (150) || 900 || -6°/+4° || ±7°
|-
|}

== Usage in the battles ==

Inherent as any other Tank destroyer: Limit the channel of attack by either obstacles ''or'' distance and try to pick of targets one-by-one. Despite heavy armour the Jagdtiger should retreat after every shot, if the opposition possesses weapons with penetration succeeding 180 mm, or else the lower plate will provide a big target. Make sure to take each corner with plenty of momentum though, if an enemy destroys the tracks or transmission during a turn, the remaining momentum will carry the Jagdtiger into a firing position or to safety.

As expected close-quarter-combat (''CQC'': Urban areas, cities, ravines, etc) should be avoided as they invite ambushes to the very weak side of Jagdpanzer. Of course narrow passage ways can also be turned into chokepoints (see above).

Sitting at an uneasy spot with [[BR]] 7.0 in all game modes, facing off top rank vehicles and a variety of WW2 machinery. All encountered vehicles can penetrate the side armour. Henceforth all medium vehicles are dangerous and their engines should be disabled ASAP.

Foes able to frontally penetrate the Jagdtiger in hull down position (hiding the lower glacis) are labeled in ☠red.

Due the potency of the 128mm APHE shell, specific modules must ''not'' be target. A successful hit into the crew compartment will sent any tank exploding.

*[[IS-3]]: Shoot the pike, albeit it can be difficult to get through if it is angled straight forward.
*[[IS-4M]]: The drives hatch is hard to get through with the tiny hole behind the additional armour. More favourable is the lower plate, or the gun mantlet on his left side.
*☠[[T-10M]]: Shoot the lower glacis when not angled, or shoot the cupolas with HE.
*☠[[SU-122-54]]: Anywhere, except try to avoid the gun mantle. No noteworthy armour, but it has a dangerous gun.
*[[T-44]]: The frontal chassis can be very trolly with its ricochets. Turret and lower glacis nearly guaranteed a penetration and knocking them out instantly.
*T-54s & ☠[[T-54 (1951)|mod.51]]: All can be penetrated through the turret front (left and right of gun mantlet) from closer than 500m. Except for the [[T-54 (1947)|mod.47]] the Jagdtiger may also shoot the chassis' armour plate, if it is pointed straight toward the Jagdtiger.
*☠[[M47|M47]]: Pretty much anywhere.
*☠[[M60|M60]]: Lot's of sloped armour. Frontally the commanders hatch can be picked, the turret ring, or gun mantle. Basically an armoured up Leopard.
*☠[[T95|T95]]: Albeit a rare sight, the few speciment encountered are driven by madmen, or masochist. Either way both tend to have good understanding of enemy weakpoints. Inside 500m the T95's stock AP shell can penetrate the upper and lower frontal plate and the APCR can pierce the superstructure, but not the chassis. Fortunatly the raw armour strength limits shrapnel power and penetrated shots will do minor area damage in the spacious crew compartment. Damage can be avoided entirely by staying at distances exceeding 500m. The T95's armour is in all due respect superior to the Jagdtiger, yet features two protruding weakspots: The two cupolas, hitting them is another issue though. Combat should be engaged in ranges less than 500m, beyond that accuracy will not allow to aim for weakspots.
*☠[[M103|M103]]: So much sloped armour. Try to shoot into the turret trap (lower gun mantlet) or the turrets cheeks.
*[[Panther_F|Panthers]]/[[M26|Pershing]]/[[M46|M46]]: Entire front is penetrable.
*[[Tiger II_(H)|Tiger II (H)]]: Right turret cheek to disable the turret for a safe reload. Alternatively the lower glacis to get the transmission and a chance to knock out the entire crew.
*[[Maus|Maus]]: Turret cheeks, multiple hits will be necessary. If possible a shot into either the fuel tanks or chassis ammo rack for the 12,8cm cannon should insta-knock-out the behemoth.
*[[Jagdtiger|Jagdtiger]]: The lower plate is a good place to shoot. Make sure to hit at a good angle as the APBC can still bounce. Also, the flat parts of the superstructure when not angle work at close range.
*☠[[Leopard I|Leopard]]: Shoot it anywhere. Don't miss.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''
*Shares same hull as the Tiger II, so the upper glacis plate is still very tough
*The front of the superstructure is very difficult to get through with anything less than APDS or HEAT
*With its 6 man crew and thick armour, it's difficult to knock out this tank with one shot from an APDS or HEAT shell
*Even better gun mantlet than the one on the T95. Totally and utterly impenetrable
*128 mm PaK 44 cannon is an accurate cannon with a surprisingly quick to reload. It takes 20 seconds to reload with decent crew. That is not bad considering the size and weight of the projectile that this gun fires
*PzGr 43 round has the second highest penetration of any APCBC round in the game
*Both the stock PzGr and PzGr 43 shells have an equivalent TNT explosive mass of 786 gram, ensuring devastating post-penetration damage
*When hull down, the Jagdtiger is a true terror on the battlefield. Especially when there are few post-war tanks in the game
'''Cons:'''
*Big target with a lot of ammunition in its hull. Shells that penetrate through the side can prove fatal
*Despite having a better engine than the Tiger II(H), the Jagdtiger weighs 7 more tons. This leave a lot to be desired when it comes to maneuverability and acceleration
*20 second reload can be disastrous if the first shot missed
*Like most other tank destroyers, the Jagdtiger doesn't have a traversable turret. This makes dealing with flanking enemies a nightmare
*Just like all the other Tiger II's, the lower glacis is a easy target if not hull down
*Matchmaking can constantly uptier the Jagdtiger
*Corners of the superstructure are vulnerable to high penetration shells such as the M103's 120mm AP shell, T-10's 122mm APHE shell, British 183mm and 120mm shells, and Jagdtiger's own 128mm APHE shell

== History ==

===Development===
This monster of a tank destroyer was inspired by the successes of previous tank destroyers such as the [[StuG III F|StuG III]] and the [[Marder III H|Marder]] series. Their efficiency in battle called for a request by Army General Staff to mount an enormous 128 mm gun on a self-propelled vehicle for infantry support in early 1942, but then Hitler changed it from its intended role to a tank destroyer. The 128 mm design was chosen as toolings already existed for the caliber, as it originated from a naval cannon design, which also was used the basis of an anti-aircraft gun. The 128 mm cannon also had a very high hit rate when compared to other formidable calibers like the 105 mm and 88 mm.

In early 1943, the armoured chassis that was to carry the 128 mm gun was to be either the [[Tiger H1|Tiger I]] or [[Panther D|Panther]]. However, early modeling showed that the installment of the 128 mm onto the Panther chassis was unsuitable. In October 20, 1943 the design was changed to use the [[Tiger II (H)|Tiger II]] chassis and a wooden model was constructed for presentation to Hitler. Approved for further production, two prototypes were produced by Porsche and Henschel. Porsche version had a eight-wheel suspension system while the Henschel version had a nine-wheel overlapping suspension system similar to the Tiger II construction. The rest of the body was consistent to the current German tank destroyer designs, an armoured casemate structure was used to hold the new 128mm Pak 44 L/55 gun. The prototypes were completed and presented in February 1944, and were approved for service, earning the designation '''Jagdpanzer VI''', but was later renamed to '''Jagdtiger'''. 150 of these Jagdtigers were ordered by the army, but only 88 (at most) were produced before the end of the war. Eleven of the Jagdtigers used the Porsche suspension system while the rest were using the Henschel suspension system.

What made the Jagdtiger very special was its enormous gun, the 128 mm Pak 44 L/55. At its introduction, no allied armour could withstand the shell it fires, and though the same lethality could be shared with the Tiger II's 88 mm Pak 43 , it has a much greater effective range of over 3.5 kilometers (though a variant of the Jagdtiger was equipped with the 88 mm Pak 43 due to 128 mm gun shortages, but this never entered service). The gun could penetrate an enemy tank hiding behind cover, such as a house, shooting right through the house and hitting the target on the other side. A disadvantage of the gun was its two-part ammunition, the shell and the propellant, which increases the loading time of the gun. The armour of the front of the Jagdtiger was 250 mm and 150 mm on the glacis plate. Like almost every casemate design, the Jagdtiger suffered from lack of turret traverse and must have the entire vehicle rotate when a target moves out of its traverse range. The Jagdtiger has the distinct title of the heaviest armoured fighting vehicle produced, weighing about 71 tons, but like most of Germany's heavy armoured vehicles late in the war, the Jagdtiger also suffered mechanical and mobility issues. The heavy weight caused it to be slow, and was easy to break down if the vehicle had to rotate to aim the gun, due to the heavily strained transmission and suspensions. Also, the gun had to be locked down (cannot traverse) when not in use to avoid wearing out the mounting brackets, and a crew member had to exit the vehicle to unlock it before firing.

===Combat usage===
The Jagdtiger was first issued on September 1944 to the Western front in the hands of the 512th and 653rd Heavy Panzerjäger Battalions. Otto Carius, a Tiger Ace, commanded the 2nd Company of 512th to defend against the Allied offensives. He comments that the Jagdtigers could not be brought to their full potential on the battlefield due to many pressing issues. The two most pressing issues of the Jagdtiger was the mechanical failures and lack of crew training on the heavy beasts. The mechanical issues forced many Jagdtigers to be disabled and eventually destroyed by their own crew as they abandoned it. Only 20% of the Jagdtigers on the Western Front were lost in combat, the rest were due to the mechanical failures or out of fuel. Crew training was insufficient with the Jagdtiger and so was morale, Otto Carius noted that two Jagdtigers failed to fire on Allied armour more than a mile away in fear of an air attack, even though they were well concealed, and both broke down as they tried to withdraw from the fear of air attacks. One was disabled when it fell into a bomb crater and another was lost because of friendly fire from Volksstrum, as they had never seen a Jagdtiger before. In another instance, a lone Jagdtiger engaged an American tank platoon. When the tank platoon opened fire, the Jagdtiger withdrew not by backing up, but turned around due to inexperienced crew training, exposing the weaker side armour and was destroyed. Eventually, Otto Carius's company was surrounded in the Ruhr pocket and he ordered the guns of the surviving Jagdtigers destroyed and to surrender to the Americans. Of the ten tigers in Otto's 2nd Company of the 512th batallion, one was lost to friendly fire, another by combat, and the rest by breakdown or crew destruction. The total American armour kills reached was ten American tanks, making one Allied tank loss for each Jagdtiger loss.

Though Otto's memoir left a sour note on the Jagdtiger's combat effectiveness, it had some success. On Janurary 17, 1945, two Jagdtigers engaged fortified positions near Auenheim with no loss. The next day, they engaged four bunkers at a distance of 1,000 meters. The combat had 46 high-explosive and 10 armoured-piercing shells fired on fortifications and tanks, the Jagdtigers were able to destroy a few Allied bunkers and tanks with no losses. Then in April 1945, 512th Battalion saw lots of action when the 1st company engaged Allied tanks and trucks in April 9th, destroying 11 tanks and over 30 other AFVs, the distance of engagement was more than 4,000 meters and ended with only one Jagdtiger lost due to an air attack. The next few days, the 1st company proceeded to destroy five more Shermans before surrendering at Iserlohn. All activity of the 512th Battallion ended with the surrender of the last of the 2nd company April 15th in the same city.

The Jagdtiger's impact on the war for Germany was negligible. There were not enough of them to change the course of the situation for Germany, plus the kill-to-loss ratio makes its production a waste of resources when much better models like the StuG were able to get even higher combat performances for a much more economical cost. It represents one of Germany's last attempts to model the belief that more armour and more firepower could equal success in a battlefield against a numerically superior enemy.

===Survivors===
Today, three Jagdtigers survive in museums. One is in Bovington Tank Museum in England, which is one of the 11 Porsche-suspension version and was captured in April 1945 by the British. Another is a Henschel-version at the National Armor & Cavalry Museum in Fort Benning, Georgia of America after being moved from the US Army Ordinance Museum, this was captured in March 1945. The last is in Kubinka Tank Museum in Russia, a Henschel-version that was captured in May 5, 1945 in Austria and is in the best mint condition of the three survivors.

== Media ==

[https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=germany&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=germ_panzerjager_tiger '''Skins''' and '''camouflages''' for the Jagdtiger from live.warthunder.com.]

==References==
<references />

== Read also ==
* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/2655/current/ Official War Thunder forum article: [Vehicle Profile<nowiki>]</nowiki> Jagdtiger "Hunting Tiger"]
* [http://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/germany/tanks-2-3/jagdtiger/ World War Photoes - Jagdtiger Collection]

== Sources ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagdtiger [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Jagdtiger]

{{Germany tank destroyers}}

Jagdpanzer IV

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{{Specs-Card|code=germ_jgdpz_IV_L48}}

== Description ==

The '''{{PAGENAME}},''' German armory designation '''Sd.Kfz. 162,''' is a Rank III German tank destroyed {{Battle-rating|1}}.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpfull for survival in combat?''

''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and maneuverability as well as the maximum speed forward and backward.''

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===
''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibilty of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

=== Additional armament ===
''Some tanks are armed with several guns in one or more turrets. Evaluate the additional weaponry and give advice on its use. Describe the ammunition available for additional weaponry. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage. If there is no additional weaponry remove this subsection.''

=== Machine guns ===
''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft, but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

== Usage in the battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Do not use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''

'''Pros:'''

*

'''Cons:'''

*

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/historical reference" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/Name-vehicles/historical reference) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to include links to sources at the end of the article.''

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=germany&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=germ_jgdpz_IV_L48 Jagdpanzer IV] in Warthunder Live.

== Read also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

''ETC.''

== Sources ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagdpanzer_IV [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Jagdpanzer IV]

Jagdpanzer 38(t)

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{{Specs-Card|code=germ_jgdpz_38t}}

== Description ==
[[File:GarageImage_Jagdpanzer38(t)Hetzer.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''Jagdpanzer 38(t)''' (also known by misnomer '''"Hetzer"''' [''Baiter'']) is a Rank III German tank destroyer with a battle rating of 4.7. It was one of the first vehicles introduced in the opening of "Ground Forces" in Update 1.41 after the Closed Beta Test. The Jagdpanzer 38(t) presents itself as a low profile tank destroyer with a powerful main gun that could keep itself hidden and annihilate the enemy as they come, yet with an impressive front armour that could withstand an average amount of incoming enemy fire.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
'''Armour type:'''
*Cast homogeneous armour
*Rolled homogeneous armour (Lower side hull)
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 50.8 mm (2-64°),19.5 mm (63-84°) ''Front glacis'' 50.8 mm (9-56°) ''Transmission housing'' || 38.1 mm (1-24°) ''Top'' 38.1 mm ''Bottom'' || 38.1 mm (0-37°) ''Top'' 38.1 mm (13-50°) ''Bottom'' || 19.5 mm
|-
| Turret || 50.8-76.2 mm (18-71°) ''Turret front'' 50.8 (3-47°) + 76.2 mm (7-85°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 50.8 mm (2-70°) || 50.8 mm (1-67°) || 25.4 mm
|-
! Armour !! Sides !! Roof
|-
| Cupola || 50.8 mm || 25.4 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''
* Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick, bogies are 10 mm thick, and tracks are 20 mm thick.
* Front armour slope not even, lower part is weaker than top.
* Belly armour is 12.7 mm thick.
* A small patch on the turret front right side is thinner (50.8 mm) than the rest (76.2 mm).
* Bolt edges on the transmission housing are 101.6 mm thick.

Don't bother trying to crack through the front armour of the Jagdpanzer 38(t) unless in possession of a very good gun and ammo. Specifications list the front armour as 60 mm thick, but sloped at a 60 degree angle causes it to become 120 mm in effectiveness, quite thick for the battle rating it is in. Try to flank it to the sides or the rear and even in a heavily sloped format, there will be a likely chance the 75 mm shells will penetrate due to how thin the side and rear armour are (20 mm and 10 mm respectively). If unable to reach the side of the Jagdpanzer 38(t), an artillery or aerial strike could harass the Jagdpanzer 38(t) out of its comfort zone and even potentially disable it.

If there are no other choice but to go against it up front, there are some weak spots in the front area. Starting from the smallest, there are some sweet spots around the gun mount area where a lucky shell might penetrate, but these are very unlikely so only aim for these in the worst case scenario. The driver vision port is a tempting target on the front, not only is it a weak spot, but behind that are the driver, gunner, and commander! If one shot gets through here cleanly, there is a very high chance of making a shot cause a crew knockout. The last weak point, and also the largest, is the lower glacis area on the vehicle. The lower glacis only has an effective armour thickness of 80 mm compared to the front glacis sloping armour of 120 mm, making it easier to penetrate for even weaker guns.

=== Mobility ===
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
!colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Add-on Armor weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
|rowspan="2" | 15.8 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 46 (AB)
|-
|42 (RB/SB)
|-
!colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|227
|279
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|141
|160
|-
!colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|14.37
|17.66
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|8.92
|10.13
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===
{{main|PaK 39 (75 mm)}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[PaK 39 (75 mm)|75 mm PaK 39]]
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 41 || -6°/+10° || -5°/+11°
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 4.80 || 6.59 || 8.00 || __.__ || 9.41
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 4.80 || 5.60 || __.__ || __.__ || 8.00
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 7.67 || _.__ || _.__ || 5.90
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| PzGr 39 || APCBC || 136 || 135 || 123 || 109 || 97 || 86
|-
| PzGr 40 || APCR || 177 || 176 || 154 || 130 || 109 || 92
|-
| Hl.Gr 38B || HEAT || 80 || 80 || 80 || 80 || 80 || 80
|-
| Sprgr. 34 || HE || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="10" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| PzGr 39 || 750 || 6.8 || 1.3 || 15.0 || 28.9 || +4° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| PzGr 40 || 930 || 4.2 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +1.5° || 66° || 70° || 72°
|-
| Hl.Gr 38B || 450 || 4.4 || 0.0 || 0.1 || 872.1 || +0° || 62° || 69° || 73°
|-
| Sprgr. 34 || 550 || 5.7 || 0.1 || 0.1 || 686 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_Jagdpanzer 38(t).png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the Jagdpanzer 38(t).]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''41''' || 28 ''(+13)'' || 14 ''(+27)'' || 1 ''(+40)'' || style="text-align:left" | Yes
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===
{{main|MG 34 (7.92 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | [[MG 34 (7.92 mm)|7.92 mm MG 34]]
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Pintle mount''
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 2,000 (150) || 900 || ±10° || -90°/+120°
|-
|}

== Usage in the battles ==
The Jadgpanzer 38(t) Tank Destroyer is armed with a [[PaK 39 (75 mm)|75 mm Pak 39]] cannon, making it quite capable of taking out enemy armour at its battle rating. Use its speed -- up to 42 km/h (26 mph) -- to take up sniping positions while the enemy is still deploying. Keep the distance while engaging, as this allows the Jagdpanzer 38(t) to get more mileage out of its thin but heavily sloped armour on the small size. Watch out for aircraft and artillery.

The Jagdpanzer 38(t)'s front armour is thick, but be wary of its weak armour (which is pretty much everywhere else). The top and bottom of the Jagdpanzer 38(t) are exceptionally thin, making it very vulnerable to aircraft, artillery fire, and explosive rounds on the bottom. The side and rear armour are also very thin, so any exposure of those towards the enemy is sure to end with the Jagdpanzer 38(t) as a flaming hulk. While the front armour is thick, weaknesses on upper frontal glacis is the driver's vision port, some small spots around the gun mount, and the lower glacis. The driver's vision port and gun mount spots are tiny and so only a lucky round would be able to reliably hit these areas, but make sure to try and conceal as much of the lower glacis plate as possible as it is easier to penetrate.

===Modules===
As with any vehicle, research ''Parts'' and ''FPE'' modifications first to prevent any early knock-outs from fire or disabled systems. After these two, try to upgrade the vehicle's mobility and firepower, and aim towards the ''PzGr 40'' shell, this will give a real edge in combat. Don't use the ''Hl.Gr 38B'' HEAT round as it doesn't give enough penetration, but it can help against hull-breakable vehicles.

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''
*Even for its rank, the Hetzer is small, and can use corners and cover that other tanks can't.
*At its rank, its main gun is very capable of dealing with any threat.
*Sloped armour on all sides, however, the sides and rear is thin.
*Equal armour all over the front with extreme sloping, so it has essentially no frontal weak spots.
*Hard to hit at range due to its size, and difficult to pen due to its armour angles.
*At long range, the sloped armour can even make high caliber shells ricochet.
'''Cons:'''
*As with all tank destroyers, side and rear armour is thin and any shots can often be fatal.
*Not great in close-quarters, this vehicle is more suited for long-range engagements.
*With the gun being placed to the right of the vehicle it has a limited traverse range to the left.
*The roof armour is fairly thin, which makes the Hetzer vulnerable to artillery barrages and aircraft.
*Lower front glacis plate is thin in comparison to the entire front, cover this if possible.
*As with turretless vehicles, the Hetzer is more vulnerable to being flanked.
*Floor armour is very thin, and can be penetrated by 105 mm shrapnel.
*While the gun can penetrate most targets at its rank, it suffers at long range against some more heavily armoured targets.
*Driver, Gunner, and Loader are in-line with each other, making it easy to knock out the vehicle with a penetrating shot from the driver's visor.

== History ==
===Development===
When Nazi Germany's situation in World War II turned to a defensive war, the need for tank destroyers increased and anything that could increased Germany's armoured fighting vehicle production was needed as the Allied AFV production tables dwarf Germany's AFV production. A new tank destroyer was in demand as the current [[Marder III H|Marder]] series was under protected, and the choice to utilize the [[Pz.38(t) F|Panzer 38(t)]] was done to not only build a more well-protected tank destroyer, but to keep in production the obsolete Panzer 38(t) chassis for the basis of stronger armoured fighting vehicles in the form of a tank destroyer.

The development of what will be called the '''Jagdpanzer 38(t)''' started in 1944, made to be a more cost-effective tank destroyer compared to the newer [[Jagdpanther|Jagdpanther]] and [[Jagdtiger|Jagdtiger]] tank destroyers. The tank used the battle-tested Panzer 38(t) chassis (though with a modified suspension and better engine), giving it a reliable record compared to the heavier tanks of Germany. The tank destroyer featured a 60 mm thick front armour angled at 60 degrees, giving it a protection of about 120 mm thick, but the side armour of 20 mm at 40 degree was very vulnerable to any anti-tank fire, even from Soviet anti-tank rifles. It carried a crew of four and a powerful 75mm PaK 39 L/48 cannon. The Hetzer had enough punch to destroy most armoured vehicles it may have encountered during the war. It was also mounted with a 7.92x57mm MG34 remotely operated machine gun on the roof that was operated by the loader. Factories from Czech and Germany produced the Hetzer from April 1944 to May 1945. Approximately 2,287 were produced from 1944-45.

Despite its common nickname as the '''Hetzer''', no official documents actually referred to the Jagdpanzer 38(t) as so, but it was a nickname given to an experimental tank destroyer ''E-10''. The ''E-10'' looked similar to the Jagdpanzer 38(t), and a mix-up in the paperwork probably christened the Jagdpanzer 38(t) as the Hetzer that stuck, continuing to this day.

===Combat usage===
The Jagdpanzer 38(t) was efficient as a tank destroyer, well-protected due to the sloped armour, easily concealable with a low profile, and armed with a potent cannon. The Jagdpanzer 38(t) was the more common late-war tank destroyer Germany had in 1944, and proved itself as a reliable machine due using a proven tank design of the Panzer 38(t). The small profile of the Jagdpanzer 38(t) made it very easy to conceal, and this provided much of its lethality in ambushes. The drawbacks of the Jagdpanzer 38(t) was on the vehicle's fighting compartment, as it was extremely cramped. The gun had a small amount of traverse to the left side, due to the cannon's placement to the right. The side armour was very thin and vulnerable to any anti-tank weapon. Due to the cramped compartment, the commander sat separated from the rest of the crew, and also making escape from the vehicle difficult, as there were only 3 hatches.

The Jagdpanzer 38(t) proved itself a versatile tank destroyer platform in German service during World War II, as the Jagdpanzer 38(t) also was made into many variants of itself. In November 1944, Hitler ordered about 100 of these Jagdpanzer 38(t) to mount a flamethrower and named the ''Flammpanzer 38''. An armour recovery vehicle variant of which 170 was made was called the ''Bergepanzer 38''. There were many more mounting different weaponry, such as the 75 mm KwK 40 of the [[Pz.IV G|Panzer IV]], 75 mm KwK 42 of the [[Panther D|Panther's]], one with the 105 mm howitzer, 150 mm sIG 33 infantry gun, twin 2 cm Flak, 75 mm K51 L/24 gun and such.

After the war, the Jagdpanzer 38(t) continued to be produced in Czechoslovakia and saw service in Czechoslovakia and Switzerland. The post-war Jagdpanzer 38(t) in Czechoslovakia service was called the ''ST-I'' and the Swiss version was the ''G13'', which equipped the 75 mm StuK 40 cannon from the [[StuG III G|StuG III]]. Due to the massive amount produced and the post-war production of the Jagdpanzer 38(t), many survivors could be found in the world. Though, most survivors may be the post-war designs in from Czechoslovakia or Switzerland mocked up to look like World War II era Jagdpanzer 38(t)s by removing the cannon's muzzle brake.

== Media ==

Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=germany&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=germ_jgdpz_38t Jagdpanzer 38(t)] in Warthunder Live.
{{youtube|url = eOKa6CJCAbM|Hetzer on the move}}

==References==
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== Read also ==

[https://warthunder.com/en/news/2858/current/ Official War Thunder forum article: [Vehicle Profile<nowiki>]</nowiki> Jagdpanzer 38(t) 'Hetzer']

== Sources ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetzer [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Hetzer]

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== Description ==

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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before [[Update 1.41]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

'''Armour type:'''
* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet)
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides (Slope angle) !! Rear (slope angle) !! Roof (Slope angle)
|-
| Hull || 80 mm (55°) ''Front glacis'' 60 mm (54°) ''Bottom glacis''|| 40 + 5 mm || 40 mm (24-26°) || 25 mm
|-
| Superstructure || Same as Hull || 50 mm (26-29°)|| 40 mm (36°) || 25 mm (85°)
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''
*Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick, though the interleaved pattern of the wheels provide cumulative 20 mm protection.
*Tracks and lower side of the hull are covered by 5 mm thick armour plate, protecting them from HEAT and HE shells.
*Rear parts of the upper side hull armour have tracks attached to it, adding additional 20 mm of armour.
*Belly armour is 20 mm thick.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Add-on Armor weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
| rowspan="2" | 46.0 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 60 (AB)
|-
|55 (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|994
|___
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|619
|700
|-
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|21.61
|__.__
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|13.46
|15.22
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|PaK 43 (88 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[PaK 43 (88 mm)|88 mm PaK 43]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 60 || -8°/+14° || ±11° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 7.04 || 9.75 || __.__ || __.__ || 13.93
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 4.76 || 5.60 || __.__ || __.__ || 8.00
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 11.05 || __.__ || __.__ || 8.50
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| PzGr 39/43 || APCBC || 236 || 234 || 221 || 207 || 193 || 180
|-
| Sprgr || HE || 13 || 13 || 12 || 11 || 11 || 11
|-
| Hl.Gr 39 || HEAT || 110 || 110 || 110 || 110 || 110 || 110
|-
| PzGr 40/43 || APCR || 272 || 270 || 250 || 228 || 208 || 189
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| PzGr 39/43 || APCBC || 1,000 || 10.16 || 0.8 || 28 || 108.8 || +4° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| Sprgr || HE || 820 || 9 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 698 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Hl.Gr 39 || HEAT || 600 || 7.64 || 0.0 || 0.3 || 1,100 || +0° || 62° || 69° || 73°
|-
| PzGr 40/43 || APCR || 1,130 || 7.3 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +1.5° || 66° || 70° || 72°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_Jagdpanther.png|x250px|right|thumbnail|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the Jagdpanther.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''60''' || 46 ''(+14)'' || 31 ''(+29)'' || 16 ''(+44)'' || 1 ''(+59)'' || style="text-align:left" | Yes
|-
|}

Left side empty: 31 ''(+29)''

=== Machine guns ===

{{main|MG 34 (7.92 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | [[MG 34 (7.92 mm)|7.92 mm MG 34]]
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Hull mount''
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 3,000 (150) || 900 || -5°/+10° || -10°/+5°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The '''Jagdpanther''' is best used defensively, to cover capture points and prevent their capture, and cover friendly tank advances. It's highly recommended to hide the lower frontal plate in this tank, as it has a frontal mounted transmission which will set the tank on fire if shot, as well as destroying the transmission. It's also strongly advised to use this tank at long range, and change position often.

It is important to keep in mind that the Jagdpanther's armour is sloped. Using it on the side of a hill facing the enemy is extremely dangerous, since this would decrease the angle at which the frontal armour and sloped and thus negate a large part of its survival capabilities. By hiding behind buildings, trees and bushes, or on top of a hill, you optimise it's fighting capabilities. A well positioned Jagdpanther is very hard to destroy. In addition, using the Jagdpanther in a diamond position (with your right side facing the enemy) will mean that your most important crew members are better protected (driver, gunner, commander) since they are on the other side.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''
*Good mobility
*Excellent firepower with great long-range sniping abilities
*Armour of a [[Panther A|Panther]], so adequately armoured
*Unlike earlier Tank destroyers as the [[StuG III G|StuG]]s, [[Jagdpanzer IV]]s, [[Marder III H|Marder]]s and [[Jagdpanzer 38(t)|Hetzer]]; it has 5 crew, rather than 4
*Front of the Jagdpanther makes it easy to attach a lot of camouflage to conceal the tank destroyer
*Gun sight has an enhanced zoom level
*Has fully functional hull machine gun
*Since it is an SPG, it requires less spawn points in RB than a normal tank
'''Cons:'''
*Bad reverse speed
*Panther hull armour isn't as effective against enemies it would face, rounds like the the APDS from the 20 pdr can easily penetrate
*Front mounted transmission. Can catch fire and immobilizes vehicle when shot through lower frontal plate
*Like most Tank Destroyers, it lacks a turret
*A lot bigger than the [[StuG III G|StuG III]], [[Jagdpanzer IV]]s, and the [[Jagdpanzer 38(t)|Hetzer]], so may need to get used to the size and how to conceal it
*Penetration from the sides would often mean lethal as sides are littered with ammo

== History ==

===Development===
Nazi Germany created the formidable 8.8 cm Pak 43 anti-tank gun, a longer version of the 8.8 cm Kwk 36. 2 attempts were made to fit this gun onto a self-propelled configuration, the first was [[Ferdinand|Panzerjäger Tiger (P) Ferdinand]] (later Elefant) and the second was the [[Nashorn]]. However, the Ferdinand was too heavy and unreliable while the Nashorn was too small and underpowered to propel such a gun. The '''Jagdpanther''' was proposed in late 1942, as a tank destroyer from the [[Panther D|Panther]] chassis that could mount the formidable 8.8 cm Pak 43 with good armour and speed. The tank destroyer was created and designated '''SdKfz 173''' and was demonstrated to Hitler on October 1943. Production then started in January 1944 under the simpler name '''Jagdpanther''' by Hitler rather than using the longer '''8.8 cm Pak 43/3 auf Panzerjäger Panther'''.

Throughout its production life of January 1944 to 1945, 415 total of these vehicles were made. MIAG produced 270 from Januray 1944 to the end of the war, MNH produced 112 from November 1944, and MBA produced 37 from December 1944. The supposed goal was 150 Jagdpanther produced a month, but Germany's deteriorating situation made this impossible. The Jagdpanthers were made in two variants, '''G1''' and '''G2'''. The G1 had a small internally bolted main gun and modified Panther Ausf. A engine deckwhile the G2 had a larger simplified, outer bolted mantlet with a modified Panther Ausf. G engine deck. A proposal to mount the 12.8 cm Pak 80 was mentioned, but never came around to production.

The Jagdpanther was a rather good design as a tank destroyer, it had a good power-to weight ratio and had a gun that could destroy any allied tank in service in the war. It did not suffer as much reliability problems due to being based of the later model [[Panther G|Panther Ausf. G]], which had most of the initial problems fixed. It also used an improved transmission and final drive (the two sources of most Panther issues) that was planned for the Panther II.

===Combat Usage===
Jagdpanthers were assigned to heavy tank destroyer battalions in the Western Front and Eastern Front, though most of the Jagdpanthers were sent to deal with the Soviet onslaught, where it first saw combat action. In Normandy, few of these vehicles were encountered by the Western Allies, though 12 were deployed in one occasion by the 654 schwere Panzerjäger-Abteilung against British units. One instance in July 30, 1944 saw three Jagdpanthers engage and destroy 10-11 Churchill tanks in about two minutes, though two of them were abandoned by the crew due to damage. The 654th was the only battalion to have a full compliment of Jagdtigers of about 42 Jagdpanthers at the Western Front, the 559th battalion only had 10 to 14 of these vehicles. The largest concentration of the Jagdpanther on the west was during the Ardennes Offensive of about 20 vehicles combat-ready.

After the end of World War II with Nazi Germany's fall, the Jagdpanther and its original Panther configuration saw service with France. The Jagdpanthers served France from 1945 to the 1960s.

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=germany&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=germ_panzerjager_panther Jagdpanther] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==

* [[Bfw. Jagdpanther]] - Premium version of the Jagdpanther.

== External links ==

* [http://storage.net-fs.com/hosting/3912593/3/index.htm 3D Experience - Jagdpanther interior]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagdpanther [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Jagdpanther]

{{Germany tank destroyers}}

ISU-152

2019-04-05T10:13:49Z

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{{Specs-Card|code=ussr_isu_152}}

== Description ==
''In the description, the first part needs to be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert the screenshot of the vehicle. If the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, they will immediately understand what kind of vehicle it is talking about.''

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpfull for survival in combat?''

''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and maneuverability as well as the maximum speed forward and backward.''

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===
''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibilty of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

=== Additional armament ===
''Some tanks are armed with several guns in one or more turrets. Evaluate the additional weaponry and give advice on its use. Describe the ammunition available for additional weaponry. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage. If there is no additional weaponry remove this subsection.''

=== Machine guns ===
''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft, but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

== Usage in the battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
*

'''Cons:'''
*

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/historical reference" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/Name-vehicles/historical reference) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to include links to sources at the end of the article.''

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=ussr&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=ussr_isu_152 ISU-152] in Warthunder Live.

== Read also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
''ETC.''

== Sources ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISU-152 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> ISU-152]

ISU-122S

2019-04-05T10:09:34Z

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{{Specs-Card|code=ussr_isu_122s}}
{{Notice|''This page is about the tank destroyer '''{{PAGENAME}}'''. For the version equipped with an A-19 cannon, see [[ISU-122]]''}}

== Description ==


The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Russian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before [[Update 1.41]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat?''

''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forward and backward.''

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===
''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

=== Additional armament ===
''Some tanks are armed with several guns in one or more turrets. Evaluate the additional weaponry and give advice on its use. Describe the ammunition available for additional weaponry. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage. If there is no additional weaponry remove this subsection.''

=== Machine guns ===
''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft, but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

== Usage in battles ==
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=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
*

'''Cons:'''
*

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article. This section may also include the vehicle's devblog entry (if applicable) and the ingame encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== Encyclopedia Info ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=ussr&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=ussr_isu_122s ISU-122S] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
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== External links ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISU-122#Variants [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> ISU-122]

{{USSR tank destroyers}}

ISU-122

2019-04-05T10:06:47Z

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{{Specs-Card|code=ussr_isu_122}}
{{Notice|''This page is about the tank destroyer '''{{PAGENAME}}'''. For the version equipped with a D-25S cannon, see [[ISU-122S]]''}}

== Description ==


The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Russian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before [[Update 1.41]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat?''

''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forward and backward.''

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===
''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

=== Additional armament ===
''Some tanks are armed with several guns in one or more turrets. Evaluate the additional weaponry and give advice on its use. Describe the ammunition available for additional weaponry. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage. If there is no additional weaponry remove this subsection.''

=== Machine guns ===
''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft, but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

== Usage in battles ==
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=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
*

'''Cons:'''
*

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article. This section may also include the vehicle's devblog entry (if applicable) and the ingame encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== Encyclopedia Info ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=ussr&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=ussr_isu_122 ISU-122] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISU-122 [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> ISU-122]

{{USSR tank destroyers}}

Ho-Ro

2019-04-05T10:04:37Z

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{{Specs-Card|code=jp_type_4_ho_ro}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_Type4Ho-Ro.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''Type 4 Ho-Ro''' is a Rank I Japanese tank destroyer with a battle rating of 1.7. It was introduced in [[Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai"]] along with the rest of the Japanese Ground Forces Tree. The vehicle, known by its full designation as the ''Imperial Japanese Army Type 4 15cm self-propelled gun Ho-Ro'' (Original Text: 日本語: 四式十五糎自走砲ホロ), is a open-topped SPG with a short-barreled 150mm howitzer, based on the [[Chi-Ha| Chi Ha]] chassis and running gear.

The name "Ho-Ro" translates roughly to ''Gun Two'', or more properly, ''Self Propelled Gun Number 2''.<ref name="FTRecordJapaneseNames">Silentstalker. "Japanese Tank Nomenclature." For the Record. WordPress, 06 Dec. 2013. Web. 15 Jan. 2017. [http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/12/06/japanese-tank-nomenclature/ Website]</ref>

Since its introduction into War Thunder, the Ho-Ro has gained a reputation for being one of the most powerful howitzer-equipped SPGs in the game despite its reserve battle-rating, right up there with the beloved [[KV-2 (Disambiguation)|KV-2]]. It is capable of destroying or severely disabling any opponent it meets (or more often ambushes), even against vehicles in Rank V. This is mainly due to its extremely effective High-Explosive shell, however this is balanced by the shell's low velocity, in which the player must literally lob the shell in a arc at their opponent even for a short distance, and the vehicle's generally light armour and limited gun traverse compared to other SPGs.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 12 mm (80°) ''Front glacis'' 15 mm (63°) ''Joint plate'' 25 mm (37-64°) ''Lower glacis'' || 25 mm (28-36°) ''Top Left'' 25 mm (25-26°) ''Top Right'' 20 mm ''Bottom'' || 17 mm (70°) 20 mm (4-69°) || 8.5-12 mm
|-
| Turret || 25 mm (15°) || 20 mm (0-11°) || N/A || 12 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels and tracks are both 15 mm thick.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Add-on Armor weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
| rowspan="2" | 14.8 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 43 (AB)
|-
|40 (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|241
|297
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|150
|170
|-
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|16.28
|20.07
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|10.13
|11.49
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|Type 38 (150 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Type 38 (150 mm)|150 mm Type 38]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 28 || -10°/+20° || ±5° || Vertical
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 3.60 || 4.90 || 6.00 || 9.8 || _.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 3.60 || 4.20 || 5.10 || 5.6 || _.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 26.00 || 23.00 || 21.2 || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Type 95 APHE || APHE || 63 || 61 || 52 || 43 || 36 || 30
|-
| Type 92 HE || HE || 55 || 55 || 55 || 55 || 55 || 55
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Type 95 APHE || APHE || 290 || 36 || 1.3 || 15 || 2,600 || -1° || 47° || 60° || 65°
|-
| Type 92 HE || HE || 290 || 36 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 7,020 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_Type4Ho-Ro.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the Ho-Ro]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Ammo Part
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''28''' || style="text-align:right" | ''Projectiles'' ''Propellants'' || 22 ''(+6)'' 22 ''(+6)'' || 14 ''(+14)'' 14 ''(+14)'' ||10  ''(+18)'' 10 ''(+18)'' || 1 ''(+27)'' 1 ''(+27)'' || style="text-align:left" | No
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===

{{main|Type 97 tank (7.7 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | [[Type 97 tank (7.7 mm)|7.7 mm Type 97]]
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Pintle mount''
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 3,000 (20) || 499 || -10°/+60° || ±60°
|-
|}

== Usage in the battles ==

The Ho-Ro a is fairly maneuverable SPG, and like many other open-topped vehicles, this is not one that should charge into the front-lines. Just like many of the other low-rank Japanese vehicles, it has no real armour protection from anything more than rifle-caliber MGs, and its ammo storage is literally a box mounted on top of the engine deck. The crew is very exposed, and the gun breech is mounted rather high on the chassis and can be easily knocked out. With this knowledge in mind, the Ho-Ro is best played by staying in the rear (but not distantly) of friendly tanks as short-range or point-blank artillery fire, along with finding hidden positions where it can attempt to be hull-down out of sight of the enemy. Due to its low-velocity shell, the gun often needs to be aimed higher than the commander estimates when performing direct-fire onto a target, but this also allows the vehicle to lob shells from behind shallow hills, out of the sight from opponents that may be camping or pushing into friendly territory on the other side. Note however that because its HE shell is so powerful, it is '''''extremely risky to fire directly next or very close to an enemy vehicle''''', as the light armour may not protect the crew, and the blast from the shell's explosion it will certainly deal damage to the vehicle itself. The gun, while powerful, cannot traverse very far to either side and its depression is actually depressing (-5°), so in order to fire on tanks that are outside of the arc of the gun's horizontal traverse or down a hill-side, the entire hull must be traversed as well. The recoil of the gun is also an issue, as it throws the vehicle backwards rather severely (just like the M-56 Scorpion), which means it loses target acquisition every time it fires. One interesting note is the pintle-mounted MG on the roof, which has good elevation and a much wider range of horizontal fire than the main gun, which can be useful on spotting enemy tanks for team-mates or dealing with [[:Category:Anti-aircraft_vehicles|SPAA]]s that have exposed gun-crews. However, it has a slower rate of fire than most other rifle-caliber MGs and its magazine capacity is pitiful. In conclusion, the Ho-Ro is a very defensive vehicle suited to supporting friendly tanks and ambushing the enemy on paths were they may attempt to flank around the map.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

*150 mm howitzer makes it an intimidating foe, largest caliber gun in Rank I .
*Howitzer's round trajectory makes it able to fire over hills.
*More TNT in its HE shells than the KV-2 (OF-530 HE shell has 6.86kg of TNT, compared to 7.2kg of TNT in the Type 92 HE shell)
*HE load can cause sufficient splash and shrapnel damage even if the shell doesn't directly hit the target.
*Can destroy most, if not all, vehicles by shooting HE just under an enemy tank and hitting the thim belly armour.
*Can deter inattentive flak trucks or any vehicles with open and exposed crew with its roof-mounted MG.
*Quick, maneuverable in both AB and RB, though slightly sluggish to put into gear in the latter.
*Good 10 degrees of gun depression

'''Cons:'''

* Super thin armour, extremely vulnerable to heavy machine guns, SPAAs, and aircraft.
* Extreme blast radius can destroy the vehicle if fired too close to oneself.
* Ammo Rack is literally a box behind the crew on top of the engine deck, leading to some very explosive ends if hit there.
* Massive recoil causes the vehicle to be launched backwards after firing, requiring aiming adjustment after every shot.
* Horizontal traverse is disappointing.
* Very slow muzzle velocity and limited range.
* At long range, the shells have a habit of bouncing harmlessly off armour surfaces without exploding.
* AP Shell lacking in penetration for the caliber, relies more on HE power.

== History ==


== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=japan&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=jp_type_4_ho_ro Ho-Ro] in Warthunder Live.

==References==
<references />

== Read also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

''ETC.''

== Sources ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_4_Ho-Ro [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Type 4 Ho-Ro]

{{Japan tank destroyers}}

Ho-Ri Prototype

2019-04-05T09:58:44Z

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{{Specs-Card
|code = jp_type_5_ho_ri_prototype
|store = 5693
}}
{{Notice|''This page is about the premium tank destroyer '''{{PAGENAME}}'''. For the regular version, see [[Ho-Ri Production]]''}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage {{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{Break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium Rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.71 "New E.R.A."]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

'''Armour type:'''
* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Cast homogeneous armour
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 75 mm (70°) ''Front glacis'' 75 mm (8°), 50 mm (67°) ''Lower glacis'' || 55-65 mm (16-17°) ''Top'' 55 mm ''Bottom'' || 35 mm (5°) ''Top'' 35 mm (10-40°) ''Bottom'' || 20 mm
|-
| Casemate || 120-150 mm (5-20°) ''Turret front'' 250 mm ''Gun mantlet'' 50-200 mm (2-65°) ''Barrel shroud'' || 55-65 mm (17°) || 35 mm (5°) || 20-50 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''
* Suspension wheels and bogies are 15 mm thick while the tracks are 20 mm thick.
* Belly armour is 20 mm thick.
* Two 5 mm structural steel plates separate the engine compartment from the crew compartments.
* Small parts of the suspension on the hull sides give 10 mm thick protection at their area.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Add-on Armour weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
| rowspan="2" | 51.0 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 44 (AB)
|-
|40 (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|781
|___
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|486
|___
|-
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|15.31
|__.__
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|9.53
|__.__
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===
''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumbnail|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''51''' || 46 ''(+5)'' || 40 ''(+11)'' || 30 ''(+21)'' || 12 ''(+39)'' || 1 ''(+50)'' || style="text-align:left" | No
|-
|}

Sides empty: 40 ''(+11)''

== Usage in battles ==

The Ho-Ri can be used in multiple roles. Its most effective at medium range, where it's harder for the enemy to aim for the lower plate and shells have a harder time penetrating the mantlet, making it easy for you to destroy them. Another option, although risky is to sit on a road that players like to go down and use your armor to bounce and take shot and return fire on enemy tanks.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''
* Good sloping armour on the front
* High velocity high penetrating gun with APHE filler
* Rather good gun depression
* Not slow considering its armour and weight
* Spaced out crew
* Central engine could absorb penetrating front shots
'''Cons:'''
* Armour is not 100% reliable
* It is barely ever going to reach its top speed (40 km/h or 25 mph)
* Side armour is quite bad
* Depressing the gun all the way will open roof for the breech, possibly exposing crew to strafing fire.

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article. This section may also include the vehicle's devblog entry (if applicable) and the ingame encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== Encyclopedia Info ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=japan&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=jp_type_5_ho_ri_prototype Ho-Ri Prototype] in Warthunder Live.
{{Youtube-gallery|ty1HJQ71nzI|Premium Vehicles: Type 5 Ho-Ri}}

== See also ==

* [[Ho-Ri Production]]

== External links ==

* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/4945-development-type-5-ho-ri-mother-of-dragons-en [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> Type 5 Ho-Ri: Mother of Dragons]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_5_Chi-Ri_medium_tank#Variants [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Type 5 Chi-Ri medium tank]

{{Japan tank destroyers}}
{{Japan premium ground vehicles}}

Ho-Ri Production

2019-04-05T09:56:33Z

U177059: Wikipedia link added / Link to Skins in WT Live

{{Specs-Card|code=jp_type_5_ho_ri_production}}
{{Notice|''This page is about the tank destroyer '''{{PAGENAME}}'''. For the bundle version, see [[Ho-Ri Prototype]]''}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_Ho-RiProduction.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{specs|rank}} Japanese tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]].

The Ho-Ri has a distinctive sloped UFP, small gun mantlet, and long casemate hull. Note the large lower plate - it is quite vulnerable and can get your transmission destroyed.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

'''Armour type:'''
* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet)
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 120 mm (70°) ''Front glacis'' 120 mm (8°), 60 mm (67°) ''Lower glacis'' 100 mm (16°) ''Hull cheeks'' || 75 mm (17°) ''Top'' 75 mm ''Bottom'' || 35 mm (10-40°) || 20 mm
|-
| Superstructure || 200-225 mm (5-20°) ''Superstructure front'' 175-225 mm ''Gun mantlet'' 175 mm (5°) ''Vision slits'' 50-200 mm (45°) ''Barrel shroud'' || 75 mm (17-48°) || 35 mm (5°) || 20-35 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''
* Suspension wheels and bogies are 15 mm thick while tracks are 20 mm thick.
* Bogie guards in the side suspension provide rows of 10 mm RHA at their locations.
* Belly armour is 20 mm thick.
* Hull underside right above tracks is 20 mm thick.
* 20 mm RHA plates separate the engine compartment from the front and rear.

If you spot a Ho-Ri, '''never''' shoot it in the sloped UFP. It can bounce shells from even a Object 120 and the only good thing that can come from it is if you get lucky and it bounces into the barrel. Instead, aim for the 120mm lower plate to destroy its mobility, or the right side of the mantlet to knock out the gunner. Note that the outer edges of the mantlet is slightly weaker, so if using APHE aim for that if possible.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
!colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Add-on Armor weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
|rowspan="2" | 65.0 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 44 (AB)
|-
|40 (RB/SB)
|-
!colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|1,562
|1,924
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|973
|1,100
|-
!colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|24.03
|29.60
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|14.97
|16.92
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|Type 5 (105 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Type 5 (105 mm)|105 mm Type 5]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 51 || -10°/+20° || ±10° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 3.60 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 3.60 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 11.10 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Type 2 APHE || APHE || 234 || 230 || 209 || 184 || 163 || 141
|-
| Experimental HE || HE || 30 || 30 || 30 || 30 || 30 || 30
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Type 2 APHE || APHE || 1000 || 16 || 1.3 || 15 || 200 || ° || 47° || 60° || 65°
|-
| Experimental HE || HE || 920 || 16 || 0.1 || 0.1 || 2,520 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks Ho-Ri Prototype.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the Ho-Ri Prototype (identical to Production type).]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''51''' || 46 ''(+5)'' || 40 ''(+11)'' || 30 ''(+21)'' || 12 ''(+39)'' || 1 ''(+50)'' || style="text-align:left" | no
|-
|}

Casemate sides empty: 40''(+11)''

== Usage in the battles ==

The Ho-Ri should be primarily played as a medium to long range sniper. Your potent cannon can dispatch most enemies and the thick frontal armour will stop most shots, especially the UFP which is basically an auto-bounce zone. Be careful in close quarters - the Ho-Ri turns quite slowly when not up to speed and an easy shot to the LFP will instantly eliminate your mobility allowing for an easy flank. Your surprisingly fast speed will also assist when getting to nice sniping spots, and the comically speedy reverse allows you to retreat when getting overrun. Note that your reverse is bugged and thus you cannot go past the first gear without either using a manual transmission OR using your reverse cruise control.

The Ho-Ri can be used in multiple roles. Its most effective at medium range, where it's harder for the enemy to aim for the lower plate and shells have a harder time penetrating the mantlet, making it easy for you to destroy them. The Ho-Ri is also quite potent at long range, particularly in downtiers, where your gun remains effective (though less so) and your armour becomes even better. Be careful using it as a brawler, however. Your transmission is easier to hit, the mantlet is easier to penetrate, and faster foes can surround you easier and get a shot at your weak side armour.

Some concerning enemies are:
* T-54 1947: This tank can be quite the pain to destroy, and if they are using the more advanced APHE shells found in the 100mm gun they can wipe out most of your crew in the mantlet. Your biggest chance at destroying them is through a trap shot or the mantlet at very close range.
* AMX-50 Foch: Wielding a powerful cannon and heavy sloped armour, the Foch is a rare yet dangerous enemy. Aim for the gun.
* T32: Though rare, this tank is completely immune from your gun in the front while it can still go through your lower plate easily. Shoot the barrel and either flank him or retreat.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''
* Heavy amount of frontal sloped armour
* Can bounce '''anything''' when angled right
* Everything under 7.0 is cannon fodder
* Very fast with high acceleration thanks to its massive engine
* High velocity cannon with decent penetration and high post-penetration damage
* Very fast reverse speed
* Good gun depression
'''Cons:'''
* No neutral-steering.
* Can get outflanked easily.
* Often uptiered.
* Can't use its amazing reverse speed without manual transmission or cruise control.
* Mantlet is easily penetrated in close quarters, especially against sabot rounds.
* Large weakspot in the LFP, resulting in a quick death to the mobility.

== History ==


== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=japan&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=jp_type_5_ho_ri_production Ho-Ri Production] in Warthunder Live.

== Read also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
''ETC.''

== Sources ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_5_Chi-Ri_medium_tank#Variants [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Type 5 Chi-Ri medium tank]

{{Japan tank destroyers}}

Ho-Ni III

2019-04-05T09:53:59Z

U177059: Wikipedia link added / Link to Skins in WT Live

{{Specs-Card|code=jp_type_3_ho_ni_III}}
{{About
|about=tank destroyer '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
|usage=the preceding vehicle of similar name
|link=Ho-Ni I
}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced along with the entire Japanese Ground Forces tree in [[Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai"]]. It handles and plays very similarly to the Ho-Ni I before it, but has been refined with the addition of more crew, a faster reload time, and most importantly, armor around the gun crew. However, it pays a slight cost of reduced top speed.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

Having 25mm of armor coverage around the entire gun crew, the Ho-Ni III no longer needs to fear artillery shrapnel or strafing runs from fighter aircraft. Do note however that it's still vulnerable to bombs, rockets and artillery hits!

However, if the Ho-Ni III takes a hit, it is now much more likely to survive with more crew, as three of them must be knocked out for it to be inoperable.

Another small armor increase is seen on the front of the tank, with the driver and radio station protected with another 10mm of armor, leaving it at still a poor 35mm.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 25 mm (12-31°) ''Front plate'' 17 mm (80-81°) ''Front glacis'' 15 mm (63°) ''Joint plate'' 15 mm (37-59°) ''Lower glacis'' || 25 mm (40°) ''Top Left'' 20 mm (24-27°) ''Top Right'' 20 mm ''Bottom'' || 17 mm (69°) ''Top'' 20 mm (4-58°) ''Bottom'' || 12 mm
|-
| Superstructure || 25 mm (15-16°) ''Front'' 25 mm (3-47°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 25 mm (24-26°) || 25 mm (10-11°) || 10 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels and tracks are both 15 mm thick.
* Driver's port on the front plate is 10 mm thick.
* An extra 10 mm of armour is plated on top of the bow machine gun area, left from the driver's position.

=== Mobility ===


The only drawback of the Ho-Ni III compared to its previous version, is that the tank has a slight decrease in top speed. On flat grass, it reaches a top speed of 32km/h, compared to the Ho-Ni I's top speed of 36km/h.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Add-on Armour weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
| rowspan="2" | 16.8 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 44 (AB)
|-
|40 (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|263
|324
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|150
|170
|-
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|15.65
|19.29
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|8.93
|10.12
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|Type 3 (75 mm)}}

The Ho-Ni III features a virtually identical 75mm gun as on the previous Ho-Ni I, still being a great cannon, even with a slightly higher battle rating. With the addition of two dedicated loaders, the gun also gets almost a second cut down on its reload time, making it capable of even more destruction.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Type 3 (75 mm)|75 mm Type 3]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 46 || -10°/+20° || ±10° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 14.09 || 19.50 || __.__ || __.__ || 27.86
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 9.52 || 11.20 || __.__ || __.__ || 16.00
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 7.15 || __.__ || __.__ || 5.50
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Type 1 APHE || APHE || 102 || 100 || 91 || 81 || 72 || 64
|-
| Type 94 HE || HE || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Type 1 APHE || APHE || 668 || 6.56 || 1.3 || 15 || 67.84 || -1° || 47° || 60° || 65°
|-
| Type 94 HE || HE || 522 || 6.02 || 0.1 || 0.1 || 810 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="7" | Smoke characteristic
|-
! Ammunition
! Velocity in m/s
! Projectile Mass in kg
! ''Screen radius in m''
! ''Screen time in s''
! ''Screen hold time in s:''
! ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
|-
| Type 90 Smoke || 570 || 5.72 || 13 || 5 || 20 || 100
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|Ammo racks of the {{PAGENAME}}.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''46''' || 45 ''(+1)'' || 41 ''(+5)'' || 37 ''(+9)'' || 24 ''(+22)'' || 1 ''(+45)'' || style="text-align:left" | no
|-
|}

Turret empty: 37 (+9)

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Effective 75mm gun with APHE can penetrate all enemies at its rank
* Fully enclosed crew compartment = better protection from strafing airplanes

'''Cons:'''

* Thin armour; close-quarters fighting is not advised
* No coaxial machine gun to use against airplanes or GAZ trucks.

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=japan&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=jp_type_3_ho_ni_III Ho-Ni III] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==


* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/4361-development-type-3-ho-ni-iii-the-japanese-marder-en/ [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> Type 3 Ho-Ni III: The Japanese Marder]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_3_Ho-Ni_III [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Type 3 Ho-Ni III]

{{Japan tank destroyers}}

Ho-Ni I

2019-04-05T09:51:59Z

U177059: Wikipedia link added / Link to Skins in WT Live

{{Specs-Card|code=jp_type_3_ho_ni_I}}
{{About
|about=tank destroyer '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
|usage=the succeeding vehicle of similar name
|link=Ho-Ni III
}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{specs|rank}} Japanese tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced along with the entire Japanese Ground Forces tree in [[Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai"]].

Similar in appearance to the Ho-Ro before it, it changes out the 150mm artillery cannon for a more traditional high-velocity gun, being one of the most powerful ones at its rank.

However, with no turret and very bad armor protection, it demands caution and patience, in exchange for being able to smash through even the heaviest tanks it faces.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

The Ho-Ni I's excellent firepower and good mobility is balanced out by its very poor armor protection. The front of the hull is covered in unsloped 25mm plates, which is only sufficient to protect the tank from machinegun rounds.

In addition, the gun compartment of the tank is uncovered, leaving the gunner and commander extremely vulnerable to artillery, machine guns, and aircraft attack. As the tank only has three crew members, the two being knocked out will leave the vehicle unoperable. Be sure to immediately retreat away from any artillery, preferably with your front facing the area being attacked, in order to protect the crew.

It is also important to try not to arouse the attention of enemy aircraft, as the open design means that any fighter plane can easily destroy you in a single strafe. With no machine gun, it does not have any means of fighting back against them either, so stay in the shadows!

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 25 mm (12-32°) ''Front plate'' 15 mm (63°), 17 mm (81°) ''Front glacis'' 15 mm (37-59°) ''Lower glacis'' || 25 mm (40°) ''Top left'' 25 mm (24-27°) ''Top right'' 20 mm ''Bottom'' || 17 mm (69°) ''Top'' 20 mm (4-72°) ''Bottom'' || 12 mm
|-
| Superstructure || 25 mm (14-15°) || 25 mm (0-11°) || N/A || 10 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels and tracks are both 15 mm thick
* Belly armour is 8.5 mm thick.
* Roof superstructure armour will not protect crew from strafe fire.

=== Mobility ===

The Ho-Ni I is based off the Chi-Ha chassis, which Japanese ground forces will be familiar with since it is featured on other Japanese early tanks: [[Chi-Ha]],[[Chi-Ha Kai]], [[Ho-Ro]] and [[Ho-Ni III]].

Thus, it has a fairly good level of mobility, reaching a peak speed of 36 km/h on flat grass in Realistic, with a theoretical maximum of 40km/h. It also has a quite good traverse rate, both on the hull and the gun, performing a full 360 degree rotation from a stop in about 16 seconds.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Add-on Armor weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
| rowspan="2" | 14.8 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 44 (AB)
|-
|40 (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|243
|324
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|150
|170
|-
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|16.42
|21.89
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|10.13
|11.49
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|Type 90 (75 mm)}}

Packing a high-velocity 75mm Type 90 Cannon, the Ho-Ni I has a serious amount of firepower at BR 2.0.

Its Type 1 APHE shell has up to 100mm of armor penetration, which is the second best of tank destroyers at its rank, only beaten by the Soviet ZiS-30, and being very closely followed by the American M3 GMC.

However, a cannon this big does come with two drawbacks; being that it has a fairly long reload time of 7.8 seconds, and no turret, meaning it can only aim in an arc in front of you. Thus, it is important that you make sure your shot lands, and that you are well aware of your surroundings, so that you do not end up wasting precious time turning your entire hull towards an enemy.

The Ho-Ni I does also not feature any machine guns, which leaves it unable to fight back against enemy aircraft or uncovered vehicles.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Type 90 (75 mm)|75 mm Type 90]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 40 || -10°/+20° || ±10° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 9.5 || 13.2 || 16.0 || 28.3 || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 9.5 || 11.2 || 13.6 || 15.0 || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 7.8 || 6.9 || 6.4 || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Type 1 APHE || APHE || 97 || 93 || 83 || 71 || 61 || 51 ||
|-
| Type 94 HE || HE || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Type 1 APHE || APHE || 668 || 6.6 || 1.3 || 15 || 67.84 || -1° || 47° || 60° || 65°
|-
| Type 94 HE || HE || 522 || 6.0 || 0.1 || 0.1 || 810 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="7" | Smoke characteristic
|-
! Ammunition
! Velocity in m/s
! Projectile Mass in kg
! ''Screen radius in m''
! ''Screen time in s''
! ''Screen hold time in s:''
! ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
|-
| Type 90 Smoke || 570 || 5.7 || 13 || 5 || 20 || 100
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks {{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumbnail|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the Ho-Ni I.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''40''' || 37 ''(+3)'' || 24 ''(+16)'' || 1 ''(+39)'' || style="text-align:left" | no
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The Ho-Ni I should be played like most open crew compartment, fixed gun tank destroyers, fighting from a distance from the front-lines and delivering support fire. The thin armour means the Ho-Ni I will not survive a direct confrontation with any enemy tank and will require the vehicle to obtain the fighting advantage of being able to target the enemy first to ensure any chance of victory. The Ho-Ni I should also be wary of enemy aerial attacks as the open compartment and three-man crew means that an accurate strafing fire could potentially knock out the entire crew.

At its battle rating, the worst the Ho-Ni I could face are the German [[Pz.IV E]] and British [[Cromwell V]] and [[Matilda Mk II]]. The two medium tanks have sufficient armour to withstand the 75 mm gun while the Matilda II requires precise shot in order to destroy it frontally. All of these tanks have guns able to shred the Ho-Ni I apart if they could get a bead on the it.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* 75 mm cannon is great, reloads fast and causes massive damages upon penetration
* Favorable matchmaking will leave the tank destroyer being matched with enemies the gun is able to handle
* Mobility is decent due to being built on a Chi-Ha chassis
* Gun is able to effectively penetrate all tanks the Ho-Ni regularly faces frontally
* Similar play style as the German Marder with better gun depression
* Good gun traverse speed
* Powerfull HE shell
* Has smoke shells

'''Cons:'''

* Tall profile
* Overall armour is thin
* Poor cross country performance due to narrow tracks
* Exposed crew space makes it vulnerable to air attacks
* Reverse speed is abysmal
* Only two types of shell
* Only 3 crew member
* Rather small traverse angle

== History ==

The creation of their own independent armoured division had Japan also envision an enlargement of their artillery forces. They decided to build a series of assault guns based off the [[Chi-Ha|Type 97 Chi-Ha]] chassis. One of the first of these design was the '''Ho-Ni I''' which had the Type 97 chassis fitted with a 75 mm Type 90 field gun.<ref name="ZalogaJapaneseTank">Zaloga Steven. ''Japanese Tanks 1939-1945'' Great Britain: Osprey Publishing Ltd., 2007</ref>

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=japan&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=jp_type_3_ho_ni_I Ho-Ni I] in Warthunder Live.

==References==
<references />

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_1_Ho-Ni_I [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Type 1 Ho-Ni I]

{{Japan tank destroyers}}

FV4005

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{{Specs-Card|code=uk_fv4005}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} British tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.67 "Assault"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

With the turret armour at a laughable 14 mm of armour thickness all around, every tank and nearly every aircraft in the game poses a significant threat. If the enemy tank or aircraft has just one machine gun that fires bullets bigger than .30 caliber, they can easily kill this tank.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet)

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 76.2 mm (61°) ''Front glacis'' 76.2 mm (44°) ''Lower glacis'' || 50.8 (12°) + 6 mm || 38 mm (6°) ''Top'' 38 mm (13°) ''Bottom'' || 38 mm 29 mm ''Engine deck''
|-
| Turret || 14 mm (10°) ''Turret front'' 14 mm (12-61°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 14 mm (0-8°) || 14 mm (1°) || 14 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

*Tracks and suspension wheels are both 20 mm thick.
*Spaced armour plates are placed on the side of the Centurion chassis, giving an additional 6 mm of side armour.
*The rear has a steel rack providing an additional 15 mm of protection.

==== Crew ====

* Commander
* Gunner
* Loader x2
* Driver

Total: 5 crew members

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Add-on Armour weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
| rowspan="2" | 59.5 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 30 (AB)
|-
|28 (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|923
|1,137
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|575
|650
|-
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|15.51
|19.11
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|9.66
|12.92
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|Ordnance QF L4 (183 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Ordnance QF L4 (183 mm)|183 mm QF L4A1]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 12 || -7°/+15° || ±45° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 15.9 || 21.94 || 26.64 || 29.46 || 31.34
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 10.7 || 12.6 || 15.3 || 16.92 || 18.00
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 43.3 || 34.38 || 31.69 || 29.9
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Shell L1 || HESH || 228 || 228 || 228 || 228 || 228 || 228
|-
|}
'''Important note:''' HESH penetrates better, when hits target at angle, but there is a limit to this effect, due to ricochet chance. In the case of this shell at 30 degrees penetration value is 240 mm, and at 60 degrees penetration value is 256 mm.
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Shell L1 || HESH || 716 || 72 || 0.4 || 2.0 ||28,900|| +0° || 73° || 77° || 80°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the FV4005.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Ammo part
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''12''' || ''Projectiles'' ''Propellants'' || 7 ''(+5)'' 11 ''(+1)'' || 1 ''(+11)'' 9 ''(+3)'' ||   5 ''(+7)'' ||   1 ''(+11)'' || style="text-align:left" | yes
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===

{{main|L3A1 (7.62 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | [[L3A1 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm L3A1]]
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Coaxial mount''
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 3,600 (250) || 500 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The main ingame use of this tank is elimination of hulldown tanks (similar to [[T30]]), super-armoured heavy tanks in general (similar to [[IS-7]]), well armoured spg's (similiar to [[Ho-Ri_Production|Ho-Ri]]) and the likes of them. Meanwhile, you still can help your team by hiding around and eliminating reckless rushers in 1 hit, when they aren't looking.

Your main goal in between your hunts is to survive and stay hidden, as you only have enough armour to stop 7.64 mm machineguns, and your reloading time is exceptionally long, especially if you lose either of the loaders. Contrary to popular belief, if you aim poorly with FV4005 it '''does not''' one shot anything out of existence anyway. You should first get out of your cover (or wait for enemy to get into your firing lines), then take aim at enemy, and '''only then''' fire. HESH shell will do the rest for you, if your aim and weakspot suggestion was correct.

Weakspots depend on mode you play in. As example, for most Soviet Union tanks the frontal weak spot is the left side of hull (for you - right side). It's also possible to target the back of their turrets in Realistic battle. However, if you fire at back of the turret of IS-2 in arcade mode, it may '''still''' survive with just 1 crew member (driver with very high "vitality" level), go into "last stand" mode, turn it's turret and fire back at you. As such, try to aim at places, from which spalling can definitely hit every last crew member.

likewise, in arcade mode it's not enough to just eliminate crew in your turret, and your driver is hidden in decently armoured hull. However, if your gun breech got damaged, there is a chance, that the shell in it will also be destroyed, and you won't be able to avenge yourself.

Going into sniper duels without preparations, like rangefinding and adjusting the gun beforehand, with this tank is ill advised, as any sniper tank needs significantly less time to aim at you, due to fact that your turret cannot turn freely, your enormous profile and different ammunition type. They also can destroy you in 1 hit as well, by hitting your ammo.

===Modules===
{| class="wikitable"
! Tier
! Mobility
! Protection
! Firepower
|-
| I
| Tracks
| Parts
| Horizontal drive
|-
| II
| Suspension, Brake system
| FPE
| Adjustment of fire
|-
| III
| Filters
| Crew replenishment
| Elevation mechanism
|-
| IV
| Transmission, Engine
|
|
|-
|}

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* The FV4005 is armed with the gigantic 183mm cannon, which is the biggest and most powerful gun in the game. Even a shot from the gigantic 183mm shell that only hits the tracks of an enemy tank can create enough spalling, which travels into the hull of the enemies tank, can leave it severely crippled.
* 183mm HESH will cause the spalling of enemy armour that is 254 mm thick or less. Which give this gun enough penetrating power to potentially destroy a Maus or E-100 even when firing at the upper glacis plate of either tank.
* Has Centurion hull armour.
* Large gun breech can potentially protect some of the turret crew from incoming fire and shrapnel.
* The co-axial machine gun has a very similar trajectory to the 183 mm gun, making it ideal for ranging

'''Cons:'''

* A large weak turret with only 14mm of armour all around.
* Lots of ammo lining the entire turret which can be detonated with little effort.
* 4/5 crew in turret. An APHE penetration or high calibre HE shell hit will likely one shot the tank.
* Carries only 12 shells.

== History ==

Work started on a 180 mm self-propelled gun in the 1950 by Nuffield Mechanizations & Aero. Designated the ''FV215B'', the plan was to mount the gun onto the Conqueror hull.<ref name="Ware pg79">Ware 2012a, p. 79</ref> It was intended for the three trial vehicles to be built from the span of 1951-1955. The project was cancelled in early 1957 with no prototypes produced.<ref name="Ware pg80">Ware 2012a, p. 80</ref>

During the development phase of the FV215B, another project was done on the [[Centurion Mk 3|Centurion]].<ref name="Ware pg80" /> Labeled the '''FV4005''', it was an attempt to mount the 180 mm on the Centurion hull. The design phase is distinctive in two parts, Stage I and II. Stage I had the gun mounted on an open-topped hull. The gun had a concentric recoil system and an auto-loader. '''Stage II''' had the gun encased in a lightly armoured, splinter-proof turret with a conventional recoil system and manual loading.<ref name="Ware pg78">Ware 2012a, p. 78</ref><ref name="Ware pg109">Ware 2012b, p. 109</ref>

In December 1952, the 180 mm gun was increased into a 183 mm gun mounting. Though a single prototype was made for testing, the project never passed basic feasibility. In August 1957, the project was abandoned as well.<ref name="Ware pg78" /><ref name="Ware pg109" /> The lone prototype is currently stationed outside at Bovington Tank Museum.

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=britain&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=uk_fv4005 FV4005 Stage II] in Warthunder Live.

==References==
'''Citations'''
<references />

'''Bibliography'''
* Ware Pat. ''Images of War: British Tanks: 1945 to the Present Day'' Great Britain: Pen & Sword Military, 2012a
* Ware Pat. ''Images of War Special: The Centurion Tank'' Great Britain: Pen & Sword Military, 2012b

== See also ==

* [[Conway]] - A vehicle built under a similar principle of a large gun on a Centurion chassis.

== External links ==

* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/4540-development-fv4005-big-box-surprise-en/ [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> FV4005 - Big Box Surprise]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centurion_(tank)#Prototypes [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Centurion (tank)]

{{Britain tank destroyers}}

Ferdinand

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{{Specs-Card|code=germ_panzerjager_tiger_P_ferdinand}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. This vehicle was introduced during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before [[Update 1.41]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat?''

''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability as well as the maximum speed forward and backward.''

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===
''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

=== Additional armament ===
''Some tanks are armed with several guns in one or more turrets. Evaluate the additional weaponry and give advice on its use. Describe the ammunition available for additional weaponry. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage. If there is no additional weaponry remove this subsection.''

=== Machine guns ===
''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft, but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''
* The armour is 200 mm thick on the front of the tank very few tanks can penetrate it
* Powerful 88 mm Pak gun with two loaders makes it able to destroy multiple targets in a short time
* Thanks to the transmission, Ferdinand can go backward as fast as it can go forward
* The transmission is in the back of the tank
* Good natural steering
* Good optics for sniping
* 6 crew members make it difficult for opponents to knock it out
* The Ferdinand can fire over high obstacles without problem

'''Cons:'''
* The tank loses speed and momentum when turning
* The hull's thin cheek armour's effectiveness decreases when angling
* The front armour is not angled
* Slow due to its heavy weight

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''

== Media ==
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== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elefant [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Elefant]

{{Germany tank destroyers}}

Dicker Max

2019-04-05T09:39:28Z

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{{Specs-Card|code=germ_pzsfl_IVa_dickermax}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_DickerMax.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''Dicker Max''' (officially ''10,5 cm K18 gepanzerte Selbstfahrlafette'' ("10,5 cm gun on armoured self-propelled mount")) is a Rank III German tank destroyer with a battle rating of 4.7 (AB) and 4.3 (RB/SB). It was introduced in [[Update_1.57_"Battle_March"|Update 1.57 "Battle March"]].

The Dicker Max is a open-topped SPG with a 105 mm (10.5 cm), based on the [[Pz.IV E|Pz.IV E]] chassis. The 10.5 cm artillery gun is not only more effective than the [[StuH_42_G|StuH]]'s 10.5 cm howitzer, but it is very consistent in terms of the results: hits that usually devastate the enemy. Its 14 second reload is not bad either, for a gun of its size, 4 seconds faster than the StuH, and over twice as fast as the KV-2's. The 105 mm HE round can also be effective on many lightly armoured vehicles like the M18 Hellcat.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides (Slope angle) !! Rear (Slope angle) !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 12 mm (77°) ''Front glacis'' 50 mm (20°) ''Lower glacis'' 50 mm (14°) ''Driver ports''|| 20 mm || 20 mm (9°) || 12 mm
|-
| Superstructure || 30 mm (14°) ''Front'' 50 mm (16°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 20 mm (21°) || 20 mm (9-17°) || 10 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick and tracks are 20 mm thick.
* The roof of the superstructure does not fully cover the top, thus still exposing the crew members.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Add-on Armor weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
| rowspan="2" | 21.0 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 30.0 (AB)
|-
|27.8 (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|256
|___
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|159
|___
|-
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|12.19
|__.__
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|7.57
|__.__
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|K.18 (105 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[K.18 (105 mm)|105 mm K.18]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 26 || -15°/+10° || ±8° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 7.1 || 9.9 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 7.1 || 8.4 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 16.9 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| PzGr || APHE || 144 || 142 || 129 || 112 || 99 || 86
|-
| Gr.19 || HE || 23 || 23 || 23 || 23 || 23 || 23
|-
| Pzgr.rot || APCBC || 202 || 200 || 191 || 177 || 167 || 158
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| PzGr || APHE || 822 || 14 || 0.8 || 28 || 343.2 || -1° || 47° || 60° || 65°
|-
| Gr.19 || HE || 835 || 15 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 1,850 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Pzgr.rot || APCBC || 822 || 16 || 0.8 || 28 || 300.3 || +4° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_DickerMax.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|Ammo racks of the "Dicker Max".]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Ammo Part
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''26''' || style="text-align:right" | ''Projectiles'' ''Propellants'' || 14 ''(+12)'' 14 ''(+12)'' || 1 ''(+25)'' 1 ''(+25)'' || style="text-align:center" |Yes
|-
|}

== Usage in the battles ==

As with any open-topped SPGs (such as the [[Marder III]]s), this is not a vehicle to charge the opponent with. However, one that can very effective at long ranges and from behind cover. An alternative play style for these vehicle in a closer range is supporting standard tanks by watching their flanks. It is NOT a fast vehicle, especially in realistic and simulator battles, but once it finds a place to stop and take aim, its gun is a very, very efficient anti-tank weapon, comparable to that of the mighty [[KV-2 (1939)|KV-2]] turreted assault gun. Its most notable feature is its extreme gun depression, over -15° to +10°, which allows this tank to take advantage of great hull-down positions behind hills, becoming near-invisible in [[Realistic Battles|RB]] and [[Simulator Battles|SB]] at [[Visibility_mechanics|distance]]. Its weakness however, is rather obvious: the crew compartment is thinly armoured, which means basically anything can penetrate it can cause havoc for the tank commander and his crew. Combined with its slow acceleration, this is a vehicle to be used in a tactical manner in both offensive or usually, defensive combat.

With only 50 mm of armour at a battle rating of 4.3, the Dicker Max can be defeated frontally by any vehicle of its rank, even at some range. It is particularly vulnerable to SPAAs with a high rate of fire (heavy machine guns can penetrate the rear, or shoot down into the cabin should the opportunity present itself) and large-caliber shells. Airplanes are also devastating, especially if they are full of guns. Artillery is also worth noting.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* 105 mm shells have excellent armour penetration.
* Gun is very accurate, even when stock.
* Somewhat fast reload for it's caliber.
* Excellent post penetration damage.
* 5 crew member.
* Nigh invincible from the front when hulled down behind a hill.
* Absurdly excellent gun depression.
* The Pzgr.rot shell is a huge boost to it's already lethal gun, with penetration comparable to the 122mm guns of the IS-2.
* Somewhat low profile.
* Very good in maps with lots of open grounds.
* Has no trouble when getting uptiered with the Pzgr.rot equipped.
* With the Pzgr.rot shells equipped, it can reliably penetrate the Panther's upper glacier, a feat that few guns in its rank could do.
* Introduced a new play style in the German TD tech tree that can be employed with great effectiveness with later vehicles on the tree.

'''Cons:'''

* Stock shells are inadequate when getting uptiered.
* With thin armour and a open top, Dicker Max is extremely vulnerable to artillery, HE shells, heavy machine gun fire, [[:Category:Anti-aircraft_vehicles|SPAA]]s, and air strikes
* With a top speed of 20 mph and a slow acceleration, this SPG will not get to places very quickly.
* Bad in maps with urban environment.
* Vehicle turns at a slow rate, which is bad in any situation.
* Very slow at scaling cliffs and obstacles.
* Underwhelming performance of HE shells.
* Rear section of the fighting compartment sides are littered with ammo, shots there are often lethal.
* Reverse speed is abysmal.
* No coaxial or mounted MGs.
* Frontal hits tend to break gun

== History ==

===Development===
The role of the “assault gun” in the German army in World War II gave the infantry an upper hand in assaulting fortification. However, heavy bunkers could withstand large punishment from artillery and closing up to the bunker for a closer shot exposed the assault guns and artilleries to defensive artillery weapon. A weapon was needed to fight bunkers at an extreme range that the bunkers and other defensive weaponry would not be able to return fire, something with a very heavy gun to destroy these bunkers. Krupp began development of such a vehicle in 1939, but such a vehicle soon became unnecessary with the conclusion of the Battle of France. Thus, the project shifted from a heavy “assault gun” to a tank destroyer. Two of these vehicles were built in January 1941 and were presented to Hitler in March 1941. It was hoping that if proved favorable, the vehicle would be able to be put into service and production by Spring 1942.

===Design===
The vehicle design during its development was called the ''10 cm K. (Pz. Sfl. IVa)'' and the ''10.5 cm K (gp.Sfl.)''. Another name it was called was '''Dicker Max''' (''Thick'' or ''Fat Max''). The design took a [[Pz.IV E|Panzer IV Ausf. E]] chassis and removed the turret to add an open-topped superstructure on top to hold the heavy 10.5 cm gun. The design had armour around 50 mm in the front angled at 15 degrees. Armoured compartments were present in the vehicle rear to protect loaders from overhead attacks. The front has a false driver port present on the right side of the vehicle with the real one on the left, whether it was there to deceive enemy fire or simply a design oversight is unknown. The commander, gunner, and loaders all have their own sights available to them to observe the landscape for targets. The engine is the 180 hp Inline-6 Maybach HL66P. Though the prototype vehicles used the Panzer IV as the basis, it is predicted that in production, the vehicle would use the [[Pz.III F|Panzer III]] instead due to increased mobility of the suspension and running gear.

===Combat usage===
Trials with the two prototypes Krupp produced were done by Anti-tank Battalion 521. The battalion took the vehicles with them during Operation Barbarossa. One was destroyed due to catching fire and an ammunition explosion, but the other was able to last until the end of 1941.The sole vehicle also saw use in the German offensive Case Blue in Summer 1942, but it was not reported to be operational by the battalion afterwards. Opinion of the vehicle was that it was unsuitable for participation in a frontal assault due to its low armour and maneuverability. The gun was deemed effective in supporting an infantry assault and knocking out tanks, but the heavy muzzle blast caused large dust to obscure the gunner view, requiring an observer to watch where the shots land. No reports were made on engine and transmission problems, but there were issues with the brake system. Due to these issues, the Dicker Max did not see mass production for widespread usage. Thus, only the two prototypes were made before interest in the project dropped.

== Media ==
[https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=germany&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=germ_pzsfl_IVa_dickermax '''Skins''' and camouflages for the Dicker Max from live.warthunder.com.]
[[File:Dicker Max Gun Depression Tunisia.jpg|x300px|thumbnail|none|The "Dicker Max" showing off its amazing gun depression.]]

== Read also ==
[https://warthunder.com/en/devblog/current/882/ [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> Pz.Sfl.IVa Dicker Max: 'Fat Max'] 

== Sources ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10.5_cm_K_(gp.Sfl.) [Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> 10.5cm K (gp.Sfl.)]

{{Germany tank destroyers}}

Conway

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{{Specs-Card|code=uk_fv4004_conway}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} British tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. The tank destroyer was released with [[Update_1.57_"Battle_March"|Update 1.57 "Battle March"]]. It is armed with a cannon developed to take on the heavy Soviet [[IS-3]] tank. It excels in fighting the top-rank heavies.

This tank plays very similarly to the [[KV-2 (1939)|KV-2]]. It lacks armor on all sides and has a very large caliber gun, able to penetrate everything it faces, severely damaging most. It can be played as a usual tank destroyer, excelling at it with its high velocity APDS rounds, sniping from a distance. Extraordinarily, it is also able to take a heavy tank in a 1v1 as well.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 76.2 mm (58°) ''Front glacis'' 76.2 mm (47-48°) ''Lower glacis'' || 50.8 (12°) + 6 mm || 38 mm (8-12°) || 29 mm 8-14 mm ''Engine deck''
|-
| Turret || 132 mm (19°) ''Turret front'' 140 mm (7-61°) ''Gun Mantlet''|| 95 mm (0-6°) ''Front'' 47 mm (2°) ''Middle'' 30 mm ''Rear'' || 30 mm ''Border'' 20 mm ''Hatch'' || 17 mm
|-
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Roof
|-
| Cupola || 47 mm || 47 mm ''Right side'' 30 mm ''Left & Rear'' || 47 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick while tracks are 30 mm thick.
* Turret sides are angled, causing inaccurate shots to bounce.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Add-on Armour weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
| rowspan="2" | 49.8 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 41 (AB)
|-
|37 (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|902
|1,110
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|562
|635
|-
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|18.11
|22.28
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|11.28
|12.75
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|L1A2 (120 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[L1A2 (120 mm)|120 mm Ordnance QF Tk. L1A2]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 20 || -5°/+10° || ±180° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 15.9 || 21.94 || 26.64 || 29.46 || 31.34
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 10.7 || 12.6 || 15.3 || 16.92 || 18.00
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 19.4 || 17.13 || 15.79 || 14.9
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Shot L1G || APDS || 362 || 361 || 359 || 354 || 339 || 321
|-
| Shell L1TK || HESH || 152 || 152 || 152 || 152 || 152 || 152
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Shot L1G || APDS || 1493 || 7.6 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +1.5° || 75° || 78° || 80°
|-
| Shell L1TK || HESH || 792 || 15.87 || 0.4 || 0.1 || 3,100 || +0° || 73° || 77° || 80°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks {{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the Conway.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Ammo Part
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
| '''20''' || style="text-align:right" | ''Projectiles'' ''Propellants'' || 17 ''(+3)'' 16 ''(+4)'' || 14 ''(+6)'' 10 ''(+10)'' || 13 ''(+7)'' 1 ''(+19)''|| 1 ''(+19)''   || style="text-align:center" | No
|-
|}

Turret empty: 10 ''(+10)''

=== Machine guns ===

{{main|L3A1 (7.62 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | [[L3A1 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm L3A1]]
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Coaxial mount''
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 3,600 (250) || 500 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

As a tank destroyer, you might want to go for heavy tank hunt. In this case, you should check the battle rating of opposing team. Despite having heavy gun, your best bet in uptier would be long range '''flank''' sniping. This is due to APDS doing less damage to crew and components, the thicker the armor it penetrated was, thus doing minimal damage through heavy tank's frontal armour. As such, you are less dangerous to superheavy tanks (especially the ones from 8.0) from front, compared to [[FV4005|FV 4005]], which many players will mistake you for. You still can penetrate most of breakthrough tanks, forcing them to retreat or slip up at critical moment. Since APDS is super high velocity, you can snipe across the map with little issue, and do fatal damage from sides.

To everything else you are extremely dangerous, and, if detected, have some presence factor. This can be beneficial and bad at same time, since you can scare off heavy tanks and attract medium and light tanks, and even other SPG's. Your turret might hold off a few stray shots from distant or weak opponents, but your hull is still quite fragile, and reload times are still too long, so there is no room for mistakes at close range duels. For these reasons, if possible, adversaries must be kept away from you, so their guns are inadequate at fighting you, your hull must be kept hidden, and enemy SPG and "sniper" oriented medium tanks must be neutralized on sight.

In case if light vehicle is stalking you, sometimes it's better to just load HESH, provoke, then hopefully blast enemy away. Heavily armoured vehicles are still more vulnerable to APDS, than HESH, regardless of range, unless you hit them at specific weakspots with it.

===Modules===
The first upgrades to head for is ''Parts'' and ''FPE'' for increased survivability. Once you got these two, everything is good, but get the rangefinder for enhanced RB or SB gameplay. It is also important to get ''Fire adjustment'' and ''Elevation gear'' upgrades, since they reduce probability of a miss.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''
* Very powerful 120 mm gun.
* Gun mantlet has decent armour.

'''Cons:'''
* Weak armour overall
* Long reload time
* Fairly low speed for a lightly armoured vehicle.
* Only carries a maximum of 20 shells.

== History ==

When the [[Centurion Mk 1|Centurion]] tanks entered service in British service in 1945, the British didn't tank account to the sudden appearance of the Soviet [[IS-3]]. The IS-3 tank showed the Western Allies needed to reconsider their tank inventories, which at the time the IS-3 was introduced only composed of mostly [[M4A3 (76) W|M4 Shermans]], [[M26|M26 Pershing]]s, and the [[Centurion Mk 1|Centurion]]s. The British, recognizing the need of a bigger gun to fight the IS-3, started production on [[Conqueror|Conqueror]] tank. However, development takes time and the Conqueror would not be ready until 1955. As an interim project until it is done, the British took a [[Centurion Mk 3]] tank and upgraded with a new turret made from rolled plate that can mount the 120 mm L1 gun, the same gun meant for the Conqueror. This vehicle, designated the '''FV4004 Conway''' was to have the heavy armament, yet the same maneuverability as the base Centurion. One of such vehicle was made in this matter before the whole thing was cancelled in 1951. The sole piece made is now stored in the Bovington Tank Museum.

Another attempt at this kind of mounting with the Centurion was the ''[[FV4005|FV4005]]'', which was meant to be a tank destroyer with a larger 183 mm gun. The project started in 1951 and developed in July 1955. The gun was mounted in a similar fashion as the Conway on a lightly armoured turret. This was a limited production and by August 1957, the whole project was disassembled. The FV4005 also has survived in the Bovington Tank Museum.

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=britain&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=uk_fv4004_conway Conway] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [http://warthunder.com/en/devblog/current/872/ [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> FV4004 Conway: IS Hunter]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centurion_(tank)#Prototypes Wikipedia]

{{Britain tank destroyers}}

Charioteer Mk VII

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{{Specs-Card|code=uk_charioteer_mk_7}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_Charioteer Mk VII.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''FV4101 Tank Medium Gun Charioteer Mk.VII''' (or just ''Charioteer'') is a Rank IV British tank destroyer with a battle rating of 5.7 (AB), 6.3 (RB) and 6.0 (SB). It was introduced in [[Update_1.55_"Royal_Armour"|Update 1.55 "Royal Armour"]] alongside the rest of the initial British Ground Forces Tree. The Charioteer takes the hull of a [[Cromwell V|Cromwell]] and replaces the turret with a larger one mounting the heavy-hitting [[Ordnance QF 20-pounder Mk.I (84 mm)|84 mm 20-pdr]] cannon, which can deal with the enemies it faces at Rank IV.

'''Firepower''' 
The turret of this vehicle is where every changes happens: encased in this fragile 30 mm RHA box, there is an awesome [[Ordnance QF 20-pounder Mk.I (84 mm)|20 pdr OQF Mk.I]] gun. To carry such a piece, the turret traverse is quite slow so one should have to pre-aim a bit before going around corners, but the fabulous penetration of this gun is worth every deg/sec in slewing rate. Plus, even the stock shells has as much penetration as the [[Ordnance QF 17-pounder (76 mm)|QF 17-pounder's]] APDS shell found on other Rank III tanks, this only gets better with the upgraded APDS shot, which can pierce up to 262 mm of armour at average combat ranges (or a [[Tiger II (H)|Tiger II (H)]]'s UFP at point-blank range !). Another frankly game-changing add-on of this vehicle is its 12 smoke launchers, which can create a smoke screen in seconds, hiding the Charioteer in an arc of about 200°. These smoke launchers are also found on later British tanks, this is a great opportunity to learn high-ranked game play mechanics.

'''Mobility''' 
As said earlier, the Charioteer share the hull of a typical Cromwell tank featuring 5 wheels on each side (not like the [[Avenger|Avenger]] or [[Challenger|Challenger]], which have the lengthened 6-wheeled chassis). For any experimented British tanker, this tank will be very familiar as it shares the mobility with its predecessors, with maybe a little loss in power due to heavier weight.

'''Armour''' 
''Lacking''. This is the word that comes in mind when thinking about the Charioteer's armour. As if only 63.5 mm of non slopped frontal armour was not enough, the sides of this tank cannot resits HMG fire and turret armour is only 30 mm thick all around. With only 3 crew members inside, any shot to the turret means instant elimination or entering crew replenishment mode. The only things that saves such a weak vehicle from being useless is:
# Its poor ammo load: there is no big ammo rack inside and no round is stocked inside the turret.
# Non-detonating APHE shells: armour (especially turret) is so thin that some APHE rounds just go right through without detonating, incapacitating/damaging only one crew member.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

'''Armour type:'''
* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Cast homogeneous armour (Driver port)
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 63.5 mm ''Front plate'' 25.4 mm (70°) ''Front glacis'' 57.1 (19°), 25.4 mm (66°) ''Lower glacis'' || 25.4 mm ''Top hull'' 14 mm ''Lower hull'' || 32 mm ''Top'' 20 mm (7°) ''Lower'' || 14 mm
|-
| Turret || 30 mm (7°) || 30 mm (1-18°) || 30 mm (1°) || 14 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''
*Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick.
*The area where the machine gun port would be has an additional 63 mm of armour placed on it.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
!colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Add-on Armour weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
|rowspan="2" | 30.0 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 62 (AB)
|-
|57 (RB/SB)
|-
!colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|852
|1,049
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|531
|600
|-
!colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|28.40
|34.97
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|17.70
|20.00
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|Ordnance QF 20-pounder Mk.I (84 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Ordnance QF 20-pounder Mk.I (84 mm)|84 mm OQF 20-pounder Mk.I]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 25 || -5°/+10° || ±180° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 10.7 || 14.8 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 10.7 || 12.6 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 8.1 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Shot Mk.1 || APCBC || 218 || 215 || 203 || 189 || 176 || 163
|-
| Shell Mk.1 || HE || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 ||
|-
| Shot Mk.3 || APDS || 285 || 283 || 262 || 239 || 218 || 198
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Shot Mk.1 || APCBC || 1019 || 9.1 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +4° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| Shell Mk.1 || HE || 1019 || 7.8 || 0.4 || 0.5 || 586 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Shot Mk.3 || APDS || 1430 || 4.0 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +1.5° || 75° || 78° || 80°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="7" | Smoke characteristic
|-
! Ammunition
! Velocity in m/s
! Projectile Mass in kg
! ''Screen radius in m''
! ''Screen time in s''
! ''Screen hold time in s:''
! ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
|-
| 20pdr Shell SS Mk.1 || 650 || 10 || 13 || 5 || 20 || 50
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_Charioteer Mk VII.png|x250px|right|thumbnail|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the Charioteer.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''25''' || 17 ''(+8)'' || 9 ''(+16)'' || 1 ''(+24)'' || style="text-align:left" | No
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===

{{main|L3A1 (7.62 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | [[L3A1 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm L3A1]]
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Coaxial mount''
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 4,900 (250) || 500 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in the battles ==

The Charioteer, as with most western tank destroyer, is fitted with a very powerful gun, has good mobility, but is very lightly armoured. As such, it is best to play with its mobility to evade the enemy until the opportune moment. As it uses the same hull as a Cromwell, the reverse speed is atrocious that can make any withdrawal very hard once discovered by the enemy. It is recommended that the Charioteer be used with the forward movement more often, and back up by rotating the entire vehicle before whistling away since the armour back and front is inadequate to deal with any of the tanks you face at its battle rating.

This is a classical sniper/flanker tank: fast, a good gun but no armour. One should never engage in front line fights since even some close range HMG fire can end your day. The best way to play this tank is to use range and speed as armour, only stopping to take a shot and speed up again. Do not worry about sniping, this canon has been made for that: shells have a very low ballistic trajectory, and keep good penetration values even at distances. When fired at, move into safety while blasting out these smoke cannisters on the move, creating a large smoke wall for the enemy, leaving some space for your allies to manoeuvre without being noticed.

In urban maps, pre-aim before getting around corners since turret sewing rate is slow. One could also use its engine/transmission as an armour when ambushed: quick reaction shots will often "only" ignite the tank without damaging the crew too much, plus, if the shot is missed, you are already in a position to escape swiftly since frontwards speed is good. When zipping past an alley, blast a smoke screen to cover allies from enemy fire while shooting an hasteful shot in the general direction of the enemy. Some enemies will turn their turret in order to protect themselves from flanking only to get shot by allied tanks. Your best weapons in close-range fights are both surprise and speed.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''
* Great gun.
* Very easy stock grind.
* Good reload speed, very good for a tank with only 3 crew member.
* 20-pdr has access to powerful APDS rounds.
* Can potentially be played in higher BR games.
* Very good penetration, even with stock rounds.
* High muzzle velocity.
* Can fill a role of a medium tank for rushing caps.
* Very good gun optics, has a high magnification.
* Very fast due to Cromwell chassis.
* Fast hull traverse speed.
* Has no ammo in the turret, and ammo storage is well spread inside the tank.
* Arguably the best turreted tank destroyer at Rank IV.
* Able to deal a large amount of damage if left unchecked.
* Good smoke screen system.
* Very low risk of fire due to rear mounted transmission and no fuel tanks on the front of the tank.
'''Cons:'''
* As with all Cromwell chassis, reverse speed is awful.
* Thin, unangled armour.
* Only 3 crew members, easy crew knock out.
* Low damage with gun due to no explosive fillers.
* Very poor ammo capacity for the co-op Tank Assault mode, forcing you to stay close to Rearm/Repair circle, which can be suicidal depending on the map.
* Poor gun depression and elevation (-5° to 10°).
* Light armour make you easy target for strafing planes.
* Doesn't have a fire power advantage over British medium/heavy tanks of the rank.
* Unlike other British Rank IV tanks, no stabilization system.

== History ==

===Development===
After World War II, the Western Allies prepared plans to repel a possible invasion by the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Britain called for its Royal Armoured Corps formation to be stationed at West Germany with their tank units. However, due to the low number of the newer [[Centurion Mk 3|Centurion tank]], the armoured corps were to be equipped with the more plentiful [[Cromwell V|Cromwell]] cruiser tank. Due to the deficiency of the Cromwell in the face of the much stronger Soviet tanks, it was required to upgrade the tank with a 20-pounder gun, the same one used on the Centurion at the time. However, the gun mounting required a new turret to accommodate the gun, and the limited space restricted the turret crew to only two crew members. This vehicle with the 20-pounder turret would be known as the '''Charioteer'''.

===Design===
The improvement on the Cromwell focused only on its offensive armaments. Armour was not taken into priority and the turret used very thin armour ranging from 20 to 30 mm thick. Some Charioteers were given additional welded armour over the hull for improved protection. The turret mounted the 84 mm 20-pounder gun with a 7.62 mm Browning machine gun as a coaxial weapon. Smoke dischargers were attached to the left and right of the turret, and a flap on the rear of the turret allow the removal of fired ammunition casings from the turret interior. To mount the larger turret, the turret ring was increased to the limits of the Cromwell's hull width, requiring the turret to have a larger profile to make up the room needed for it. Despite this enlargement, ammunition stowage was limited, the hull machine gunner position was removed to make additional room for the large ammunition, but only allowed 25 rounds to be carried inside the tank. Primary ammunition carried in the tank were high-explosive and armour-piercing discarding-sabot (APDS) rounds.

The Cromwell tanks were converted to Charioteers at the Robinson & Kershaw Ltd at Dukinfield, Cheshire. The first order was for 630 vehicles in 1951, but the production was cut short at a later time. The first 200 were delivered in March 1953 and another 200 the next year. The total number produced is believed to be around 442 vehicles.

===Service life===
The Charioteers were assigned to the Royal Armoured Corps unit in the British Territorial Army in West Germany. In practice, the vehicle's three man crew was increased to a fourth additional man due to the restricted visibility inside the tank. The fourth crew member was to act as an external observer like a commander to pick out targets. The high profile turret on the Charioteer was beneficial in providing a good hull down position to fire at the targets. Despite that, the Charioteers never saw combat action in the British forces before being fully replaced by the [[Centurion Mk 3|Centurion]].

The surplus vehicles were sold to Austria, Finland, Jordan, and Lebanon. The vehicles saw more action in the Six-Day war in the middle east in the Arab countries surrounding Israel. It is suspected that the Charioteers continue to see action in the many conflicts in the middle east region.

During its service life, the Charioteer saw many upgrades, such as one using an improved 20-pounder which has a fume extractor along the barrel. In Jordanian use, the Charioteer upgraded the turret traverse motors and also allowed a mounting of a .50 caliber machine gun. In 1969, the Charioteer saw an up-gunning with the Royal Ordnance L7 105 mm gun, though only one was produced for trials. This was intended for export, but never saw service.

===Survivors===
About six Charioteers exist in intact condition in the world. One is in Austria in the Museum of Military History. Two are in Finland in outdoor display in the Parola tank museum and the Army Academy in Lappeenranta. One is in Israel in the Yad la-Shiryon Museum. Two more are in the United Kingdom, with one normal one in the Bovington Tank Museum and the 105 mm Charioteer variant at the East of England Tank Museum.

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=britain&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=uk_charioteer_mk_7 Charioteer Mk.VII] in Warthunder Live.

== Read also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
''ETC.''

== Sources ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charioteer_(tank) Wikipedia]

{{Britain tank destroyers}}

Centauro I 105 R

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{{Specs-Card|code=it_b1_centauro_romor}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|5}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat?''

''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and maneuverability as well as the maximum speed forward and backward.''

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===
''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

=== Machine guns ===
''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft, but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''

'''Pros:'''
*

'''Cons:'''
*

== History ==

Development of the B1 Centauro began during the 1980s after the Italian Army issued a set of requirements for a new vehicle that would have equivalent firepower to the Leopard 1 MBT in Italian service at the time, but with greater combat mobility.

In response to this, the Italian companies Fiat, Iveco and Oto Melara joined forces to begin developing the vehicle requested by the Italian Army. In this joint venture, Fiat and Iveco were developing the vehicle’s hull and power supply, whilst Oto Melara took care of the vehicle’s turret and weapon systems.

In 1986, the final prototype of the B1 Centauro project was unveiled on Sardinia. The presented vehicle was an eight-wheeled lightly armored tank destroyer, equipped with a derived modification of the L7 105mm cannon, capable of reaching a very high top speed and covering large distances under its own power.

Impressed by the B1 Centauro, the Italian Military placed orders for a number of vehicles, with the first ones entering service as early as 1992. Early on in its service life, the Centauro received an ERA upgrade package that allowed for the installation of [[Centauro ROMOR|ROMOR]] ERA packs on the vehicle’s hull and turret sides as well as rear.

B1 Centauros took part in most major conflicts that defined the ‘90s and early 2000s, most notably in former Yugoslavia, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan and others. Apart from the Italian Army, other noteworthy operators of the Centauro include Spain, Jordan and Oman.

Around 400 B1 Centauros were built until 2006, including some other derived modifications of the vehicle filling other roles. The B1 Centauro still serves with the Italian as well as other armed forces to this day.

''- From [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5922-development-b1-centauro-the-wheeled-cheetah-en Devblog]''

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=it_b1_centauro_romor Centauro ROMOR] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5922-development-b1-centauro-the-wheeled-cheetah-en [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> B1 Centauro: The Wheeled Cheetah]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B1_Centauro Wikipedia]

{{Italy tank destroyers}}

Centauro I 105

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{{Specs-Card|code=it_b1_centauro}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat?''

''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and maneuverability as well as the maximum speed forward and backward.''

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===
''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

=== Additional armament ===
''Some tanks are armed with several guns in one or more turrets. Evaluate the additional weaponry and give advice on its use. Describe the ammunition available for additional weaponry. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage. If there is no additional weaponry remove this subsection.''

=== Machine guns ===
''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft, but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''

'''Pros:'''
*

'''Cons:'''
*

== History ==

Development of the B1 Centauro began during the 1980s after the Italian Army issued a set of requirements for a new vehicle that would have equivalent firepower to the Leopard 1 MBT in Italian service at the time, but with greater combat mobility.

In response to this, the Italian companies Fiat, Iveco and Oto Melara joined forces to begin developing the vehicle requested by the Italian Army. In this joint venture, Fiat and Iveco were developing the vehicle’s hull and power supply, whilst Oto Melara took care of the vehicle’s turret and weapon systems.

In 1986, the final prototype of the B1 Centauro project was unveiled on Sardinia. The presented vehicle was an eight-wheeled lightly armored tank destroyer, equipped with a derived modification of the L7 105mm cannon, capable of reaching a very high top speed and covering large distances under its own power.

Impressed by the B1 Centauro, the Italian Military placed orders for a number of vehicles, with the first ones entering service as early as 1992. Early on in its service life, the Centauro received an ERA upgrade package that allowed for the installation of [[Centauro ROMOR|ROMOR]] ERA packs on the vehicle’s hull and turret sides as well as rear.

B1 Centauros took part in most major conflicts that defined the ‘90s and early 2000s, most notably in former Yugoslavia, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan and others. Apart from the Italian Army, other noteworthy operators of the Centauro include Spain, Jordan and Oman.

Around 400 B1 Centauros were built until 2006, including some other derived modifications of the vehicle filling other roles. The B1 Centauro still serves with the Italian as well as other armed forces to this day.

''- From [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5922-development-b1-centauro-the-wheeled-cheetah-en Devblog]''

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=it_b1_centauro Centauro] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5922-development-b1-centauro-the-wheeled-cheetah-en [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> B1 Centauro: The Wheeled Cheetah]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B1_Centauro Wikipedia]

{{Italy tank destroyers}}

CA Lorraine

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{{Specs-Card|code=fr_lorraine_100}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{specs|name}}''' (100 mm Lorraine assault gun), or abbreviated '''{{specs|pseudonym}}''', is a Rank {{specs|rank}} French tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. It presents a very classic TD design: Casemate gun platform and powerful armament. While lacking a bit in terms of armour, it surely compensates with superior mobility.

The CA Lorraine is an intermediate between a [[SU-85]] and a lowered [[Jagdpanther|Jagdpanther]]. It is distinguishable for having rubber road wheels instead of metal ones, two huge fans atop the engine deck (much like the German Jagdpanther), a very pointy gun mantlet pointing outwards from the casemate and quite a large, rounded commander's cupola. In some ways, it is quite similar to the fearsome [[AMX-50 Foch|AMX 50 ''Foch'']], this can scare away some cowardly foe.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

Its sloped, medium thickness frontal armour will not protect you from anything bigger than SPAA shots (some may even get through in close quarters) ''but'' it is certainly sufficient for what it is designed to do: protecting from stray bullets in long range engagements. Side and top armour are also quite weak so don't expect to survive any kind of surprise coming from side or top. Still, this tank has 5 crew members, which can often save it from a (too) quick death.

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour (Casemate hull)
* Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Driver's hatch)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 50 mm (55°) ''Front glacis'' 35 mm (60°) ''Lower glacis'' 60-150 (0-88°) + 35-60 mm (2-88°) ''Gun mantlet''|| 30 mm (15°) ''Front'' 30 mm ''Bottom'' || 25 mm (23°) ''Top'' 25 mm (55°) ''Bottom'' || 20 mm 8 mm ''Engine grille''
|-
! Armour !! Sides !! Roof
|-
| Cupola || 50 mm || 20 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick.

=== Mobility ===

If anyone thought the [[Lorraine 40t]] was a sprinter, this is even better. The CA Lorraine is ''fast''. Not only in forward motion is it fast, it can retreat at a decent, constant, -16 km/h and it has ability to neutral steer, these enable fast reaction to quickly changing battlefield odds such as flanking maneuvers or enemy breakthrough. An experimented player can take clear advantage over its foes by achieving good placement and this tank is the perfect tool for this task.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Add-on Armour weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
| rowspan="2" | 25.0 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 68 (AB)
|-
|62 (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|973
|_,___
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|606
|685
|-
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|11.25
|__.__
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|7.00
|7.92
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|SA47 L/58 (100 mm)}}

This gun platform uses the usual French rank IV 100 mm SA47 L/58 cannon with a twist: it has no autoloader mechanism, hence making reload time ''twice'' as long. Keep that in mind as your foes get closer and closer to you: these precious 15 seconds of reload time are the perfect time to intent a frontal attack, even more so since you don't even have automatic firepower of any form.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[SA47 L/58 (100 mm)|100 mm SA47 L/58]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 40 || -6°/+16° || ±9° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 5.3 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 3.6 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 15.6 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| 100 mm Obus de rupture || APCBC || 295 || 293 || 279 || 263 || 248 || 233
|-
| 100 mm Obus explosif || HE || 22 || 22 || 21 || 20 || 20 || 20
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| 100 mm Obus de rupture || APCBC || 1,060 || 15 || N/A || N/A || N/A || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| 100 mm Obus explosif || HE || 1,000 || 15 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 1,400 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks {{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''40''' || 31 ''(+9)'' || 21 ''(+19)'' || 11 ''(+29)'' || 1 ''(+39)'' || style="text-align:left" | no
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

This tank sits with confidence at BR 6.0 as a regular tank destroyer. There is nothing very special to it but it performs good in most situations. Use your good mobility to take a competitive spot and ''reposition'' every now and then : once you get spotted, it is already too late. Hopefully, this tank's awesome mobility and ''neutral steering'' will make your day easier.

Use this tank as a classic tank destroyer while enjoying its great mobility. Any good move with a casemate TD is a good move with this tank.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* Good firepower, uses the same gun as [[AMX-50|AMX-50-100]] and [[Lorraine 40t]]
* Very good reverse speed
* Low profile
* Wide tracks
* Capable of neutral steering
* Strong gun mantlet may bounce shots
* Fast with very good maneuverability
* Awesome power ratio: 38+ HP/ton

'''Cons:'''

* Thin armour (50 mm) sloped at 55°
* Very thin side and top armour: not a frontline tank
* Weak LFP at 35mm (60°)
* Reload rate is not impressive
* Poor gun depression (-6)
* Lacks HE filler in AP shots
* No coaxial MG
* Low gun placement
* Only two shell types
* Somewhat weak optic zoom
* Large hull
* Large ammo racks on both sides of the hull

== History ==

The CA Lorraine was developed and tested in the late 1940s, but never saw active service.

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=france&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=fr_lorraine_100 CA Lorraine] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
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* ''other literature.''

{{France tank destroyers}}

Brummbar

2019-04-04T13:52:11Z

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{{DISPLAYTITLE:Brummbär}}
{{Specs-Card|code=germ_sturmpanzer_IV_brummbar}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_Brummbar.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''15cm Sturm-Panzer 43(L/12) IV''' (nicknamed by the Allies the '''Brummbär''') is a premium Rank III German tank destroyer with a battle rating of 4.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in [[Update 1.61 "Road to Glory"]].

The "Brummbär" carries a 15 cm gun akin to that found on the [[KV-2 (1939)]]. Due to its long reload and decent armour, this machine is suited to ambushes or supported urban combat. Its ~100 mm frontal armour is a force to be reckoned with (being about the same as a [[Tiger H1|Tiger I]]'s). However, its sides are weak (as any Panzer IV is) and its rear is as well. Its gun has a lot of drop (it is very low velocity), so "sniping" at ranges over ~750m will basically be indirect fire. This is why this vehicle should stick to short-range attacks. Due to the potential of all of its shells, it is almost guaranteed a one-hit knock-out, assuming the shell hits relatively on-target.

The vehicle looks somewhat reminiscent of a [[StuG III G|StuG III]], but with a taller superstructure and a much larger gun. It is based on a Panzer IV chassis, but has wider tracks to compensate for the greater weight. It comes with side skirts, but they are mostly useless.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

'''Armour type:'''
* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet)
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 20 mm (74°) ''Front glacis'' 50 + 50 mm (12°) ''Joint plate'' 30 + 30 mm (57°) ''Lower glacis'' || 20 + 5 mm || 20 mm (11-12°) || 10 mm
|-
| Superstructure || 100 mm (39°) 250 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 60 mm (21°) ''Front-to-Side joint plate'' 50 mm (15°) ''Sides'' || 30 mm (29°) || 20 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''
* Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 20 mm thick.
* Belly armour is 10 mm thick.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
!colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Add-on Armor weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
|rowspan="2" | 27.8 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 44 (AB)
|-
|40 (RB/SB)
|-
!colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|376
|463
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|234
|265
|-
!colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|13.52
|16.65
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|8.42
|9.53
|-
|}

== Armaments ==

{{main|StuH 43 (150 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[StuH 43 (150 mm)|150 mm Stu.H 43 L/12]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 38 || -8°/+30° || ±15° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 8.90 || 12.40 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 8.90 || 10.50 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 22.40 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| J.Gr.38 || HE || 60 || 60 || 60 || 60 || 60 || 60
|-
| J.Gr.39 HI/A || HEAT || 185 || 185 || 185 || 185 || 185 || 185
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| J.Gr.38 || HE || 240 || 38.0 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 8,600 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| J.Gr.39 HI/A || HEAT || 280 || 25.0 || 0.0 || 0.1 || 5,320 || +0° || 62° || 69° || 73°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_Brummbar.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] for the Brummbär.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Ammo Part
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''38''' || style="text-align:right" | ''Projectiles'' ''Propellants'' || 27 ''(+11)'' 31 ''(+7)'' || 14 ''(+24)'' 1 ''(+37)'' || 1 ''(+37)''   || style="text-align:left" | No
|-
|}

== Usage in the battles ==

If in a large, open map, move with a teammate as the Brummbär will not be able to fire at enemies from long range due to the nature of the gun. Urban combat is probably where this vehicle does best, as its armour can bounce many shots if it peeks around corners properly. The short "ideal" range of the gun makes short range urban combat its friend. This coupled with lots of cover for the long reload makes the city the best place to play this tank.

Be wary of fast-moving vehicles, as, they are harder to hit with the slow, heavy gun, and especially since the Brummbär does not have a turret, they will flank easily. In addition, heavy SPAA will ruin the Brummbär's day if they get to even the side armour, being relatively thin for its rank. Regardless, most guns of the rank can penetrate the Brummbär frontally from medium ranges, so be careful. Always beware of multiple/squad enemies, as the Brummbär cannot engage them all at once. Sometimes, if they don't see the vehicle, it's better to just let them go and avoid exposing the Brummbär.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''
* 100 mm sloped frontal armour
* 15 cm gun can one shot most other tanks at its BR, and, with proper technique, can one shot most tanks in the game.
* Decent speed
* Fear factor
'''Cons:'''
* Ammo located on the sides with thin armour
* Very slow traveling rounds, hitting moving targets at range can be extremely difficult.
* Optic only provides aiming marks up to 800 meters, aiming past that is either in 3rd person view or guestimations.
* Big target
* Thin side armour
* No turret

== History ==

===Development===
The '''Sturmpanzer''' is a development of the Wehrmacht on the needed for a heavy assault gun to provide direct fire support for the infantry in urban areas. It took a Panzer IV chassis, turned it into a casemate structure, and added a 15 cm StuH 43 howitzer (derived from the 15 cm sIG 33) onto the vehicle. The official names were "''Sturmpanzer''", "''Sturmpanzer 43''", or the "''Sturmpanzer IV''", however it was not known as the '''"Brummbär"''' by the Germans as that name was actually coined by the Allied forces. The Wehrmacht accepted it in 1943 and about 300 units were built from 1943 to 1945.

===Design===
The Sturmpanzer was heavily armoured and equipped with a gun capable of leveling buildings. The 15 cm howitzer has 38 two-piece rounds available in storage, though rate of fire is low due to the heavy weight of each shell, the HE shell weighing around 38 kg (84 lb.) alone. Though its armour ensures great survivability, the heavy weight of the design stressed the chassis and breakdowns were frequent on the transmission and suspension.

The Sturmpanzer underwent four different designs during its production life, mostly fixing problems experienced with the preceding models. The first series were produced from April to December 1943 with 52 from [[Pz.IV G|Ausf. G]] chassis and 8 from [[Pz.IV E|Ausf. E]] and [[Pz.IV F2|Ausf. F]] chassis. The second series of vehicles began in December 1943 using the [[Pz.IV H|Ausf. H]] chassis until March 1944 with improvements to the driver's compartment, internal ventilation, and steel-rimmed road wheels. The third series of vehicles lasted from March to June 1944 with to the driver's optic and a lighter 15 cm StuH 43/1 howitzer as the armament. The fourth and last series from June 1944 to March 1945 featured the chassis and engine of the [[Pz.IV J|Ausf. J]] model, it had a redesigned gun collar, a reduction in overall height, and a ball mount for an MG34 in the front casemate structure.

===Combat usage===
The Sturmpanzer was equipped in four independent battalions in the course of the war in the ''Sturmpanzer-Abteilung 216, 217, 218, and 219''. The first to receive the Sturmpanzers was the 216th in April 1943 with about 45 vehicles split into three companies with 14 each and 3 in the battalion headquarters. They saw use in the Battle of Kursk in ''Operation Citadel''and was assigned to ''Panzerjäger Regiment 656'' in the 9th Army of Army Group Center. It stayed in play all the way to December 1943, assisting German soldiers in attacking and withdrawing from the Russian front. The battalion was transferred in February 1944 to counter the Allied invasion of Italy. Though intended to attack the Allies at the beachhead, the operation failed and the battalion was stationed there all the way until Germany's surrender. The 217th was made in April 1944 and was stationed in Normandy in early June 1944. They did not see use early in the Battle of Normandy as the Allies and the French Resistance sabotaged the rail network to France and the Sturmpanzers, forced to drive to France, broke down enroute. They did see combat at Caen in August 1944 however, but withdrew to recuperate after suffering major casualties. The 217th also saw combat in the Battle of the Bulge, before retreating due to losses and continued withdrawing until captured in the Ruhr Pocket in April 1945.

The 218th started as the ''Sturmpanzer-Kompanie z.b.V. 218'' and was raised in August 1944. It stayed in the Eastern Front and saw combat in the Warsaw Uprising. It continued fighting until it was wiped out in East Prussia in April 1945. A similar unit known as the ''Sturmpanzer-Kompanie z.b.V. 2./218'' was made alongside the 218th, though not much is known except that it went to form the actual ''Sturmpanzer-Abteilung 218'' in January 1945. Though expected to be equipped with 45 Sturmpanzers, it ended up with [[StuG III G|StuG III]]s instead. The 219th was made in September 1944. In October 1944, it only had 10 Sturmpanzers when ''Operation Panzerfaust'' was launched and Germany enters Hungary. It arrived on October 19th when it was no longer needed and was sent to Slovakia for further training and equipping before returning to Hungary to relieve the German troops at Budapest. It stayed until forced to retreat by the Soviets before either being wiped out or surrendering.

Today, four Sturmpanzers are known to have survived in intact conditions. Each one is in France, Germany, Russia, and the United States.

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=germany&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=germ_sturmpanzer_IV_brummbar Brummbär] in Warthunder Live.

==References==
<references />

== Read also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
''ETC.''

== Sources ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brummb%C3%A4r Wikipedia]

{{Germany tank destroyers}}
{{Germany premium ground vehicles}}

Breda 501

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{{Specs-Card|code=it_semovente_breda_501}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (shortened as '''{{Specs|pseudonym}}''') is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

The Breda 501 represents a large and poorly-armoured target for any enemy vehicle. The crew members, barring the driver, are extremely exposed to machine gun fire and players will regularly find themselves being strafed into oblivion by aircraft.

The vehicles' internal modules are spread throughout, with the engine and ammo racks being placed high up at the rear behind only 8mm of armour. This makes it possible for the Breda to be immobilised entirely by machine-gun fire. As well as this, the Bredas' gun breech is totally exposed and rises above even the minimal side armour, making it incredibly easy to knock out from the sides.

The thickest armour on the vehicle is the 30mm gun shield and frontal plate. This protects from heavy machine guns, but does little to stop any kind of tank shell, making the Breda easy to penetrate even for lower-rank SPAA.

=== Mobility ===

As a wheeled vehicle the Breda 501 struggles on any kind of soft ground such as snow, sand and wet mud. It also cannot turn on the spot as a tracked vehicle can, making turning the vehicle around in a confined space extremely time-consuming when combined with its very slow reverse speed.

However the Breda does boast a high straight-line speed, and can easily hit 50km/h on flat smooth ground allowing it to outrun the majority of vehicles it faces. It can also corner quickly when moving forward, allowing it to zip around the streets of urban maps at high speed

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|90/53 mod.41 (90 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[90/53 mod.41 (90 mm)|90 mm 90/53 mod.41]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 30 || -4°/+21° || ±45° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 9.7 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 6.5 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 7.8 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Granata Perforante da 90 || APCBC || 131 || 130 || 120 || 110 || 100 || 91
|-
| Granata da 90 || HE || 13 || 13 || 13 || 13 || 13 || 13
|-
| Granata Perforante mod.43 || APCBC || 158 || 156 || 146 || 134 || 123 || 114
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Granata Perforante da 90 || APCBC || 758 || 12.1 || 0.8 || 28 || 520 || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| Granata da 90 || HE || 850 || 10.1 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 1 || ° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Granata Perforante mod.43 || APCBC || 773 || 11.1 || 0.8 || 28 || 180 || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===

{{main|Breda Mod. 38 (8 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | [[Breda Mod. 38 (8 mm)|8 mm Breda Mod. 38]]
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Pintle mount (Rear left)''
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 1,680 (24) || 600 || __° || __°
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Pintle mount (Rear right)''
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 1,680 (24) || 600 || __° || __°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The Breda 501 boasts a very effective high-velocity gun for its rank, offering high penetration and excellent post-penetration damage. This combines well with the vehicles' high top speed and allows players to quickly get into strong flanking positions early in the game. The Breda can heavily punish enemy vehicles from a variety of ranges in these positions.

The Breda can also be used in a more aggressive role on some urban maps. The 90mm gun has an excellent horizontal traverse range, meaning players can get their gun sighted round corners without fully exposing the vehicle. With a high top speed, the Breda can knock out enemy tanks before quickly disengaging, although players must beware of the slow reverse speed when planning an ambush.

The Breda can encounter BR 4.7 heavy tanks such as the Sherman Jumbo, whose thick, angled frontal armour presents a significant challenge. If possible the Breda should look to flank the Jumbo, where its gun can easily obliterate the US tank from the side. If forced to engage an angled Jumbo from the front, the Shermans' machine gun port represents a small weakspot. Aside from this, shots into the turret ring can penetrate the Jumbo, but this may not be reliable.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* Excellent gun with a fast reload, good penetration and high explosive mass
* Wide horizontal gun traverse for a tank destroyer
* High top speed and excellent agility on flat hard ground

'''Cons:'''

* Very poor armour and exposed crew
* Machine guns only fire over the back of the vehicle, and are effectively useless
* Very poor mobility on soft ground, and no neutral turning

== History ==

During the North African campaign, the Italian military quickly realized the effectiveness of their 90mm heavy AA cannon, commonly mounted on utility trucks. The cannon turned out to be just as good at dealing with enemy tanks as it was combating aircraft, being able to pierce the armor of virtually any allied tank it faced in the deserts of North Africa. However, whilst the mounting on truck chassis allowed the guns to be moved around with relative ease, the large silhouette and lack of armor protection heavily exposed these vehicles and their crews to even rifle-caliber fire, yet alone to shrapnel from nearby explosions. In 1942, the military top brass came up with a set of requirements for a new vehicle which would build up on the proven gun truck concept used in North Africa by increasing protection and mobility. The new vehicle would be designed as a dedicated SPG, intended solely to provide support to armored regiments in combating enemy tanks. Shortly after, the Breda company began work on a vehicle around those specifications. Breda based their new design on a chassis of an existing utility truck and added armor plating to the vehicle’s front and sides. The 90mm cannon would be installed in an open fighting compartment in the vehicle’s rear. In 1943, the prototype was finished and began undergoing testing as the Breda 501. Although the Breda 501 had successfully proven itself during testing, further development and potential mass production was hindered by Italy’s capitulation in late 1943. The project was ultimately cancelled with the signing of the armistice in late 1943 with only a couple prototypes of the Breda 501 being built of which none saw any combat use.

''- From [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5899-development-breda-501-when-looks-deceive-en Devblog]''

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=it_semovente_breda_501 Breda 501] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5899-development-breda-501-when-looks-deceive-en [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> Breda 501 - When Looks Deceive]
* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/434109-breda-501/ [Forum<nowiki>]</nowiki> Official Forum Thread for {{PAGENAME}}.]

{{Italy tank destroyers}}

BM-8-24

2019-04-04T13:47:01Z

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{{Specs-Card|code=ussr_bm_8_24}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{specs|name}}''' is premium Rank {{specs|rank}} Soviet tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. The tank was added in [[Update 1.53 "Firestorm"]]. It is a [[T-60]] chassis carrying Katyusha rocket launcher that can fire 24 rockets towards the enemy.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

'''Armour type:'''
* Rolled homogeneous armour
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 15 mm (73°) ''Front glacis'' 35 mm (24°) ''Lower glacis'' 35 mm (22-30°) ''Driver's port'' || 15 mm || 10 mm (65-70°) ''Top'' 25 mm (28°) ''Bottom'' || 13 mm
|-
| Rocket Pad || 25 mm (1-2°) || 25 mm (0-1°) || 25 mm (2-11°) || 25 mm
|-
| Cupola || 35 mm (34°) || 15 mm (8-11°) || 10 mm (26°) || 13 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''
* Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick, tracks are 15 mm thick
* Belly armour is 10 mm thick.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
!colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Add-on Armour weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
|rowspan="2" | 5.8 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 47 (AB)
|-
|43 (RB/SB)
|-
!colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|108
|133
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|67
|76
|-
!colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|18.62
|22.93
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|11.55
|13.10
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|Rockets (Disambiguation)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Rockets (Disambiguation)|82 mm M-8 rockets]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 24 || -3°/+40° || ±13° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 8.9 || 12.4 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 8.9 || 10.5 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 10.4 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| M-8 || SSM || 24 || 24 || 24 || 24 || 24 || 24
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| M-8 || SM || 260 || 7.8 || 0.0 || 0.1 || Unknown || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_BM-8-24.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the BM-8-24.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" width="10%" |Comments
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''24''' || 1 ''(+23)'' || style="text-align:left" | No
|-
|}
Rockets deplete right to left from bottom to top, but ammo rack don't change until empty.

== Usage in the battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''
* Rocket launcher vehicle
* Smallest rocket launcher profile
* High velocity rockets. (Good for medium-long range.)
'''Cons:'''
* No other armaments except rocket launchers
* Rockets can only face forwards
* Armour of a [[T-60]] (Very low)
* Extremely long reload time.
* Small rocket supply of only 24.
* Very poor depression can cause it to be problematic to hit low targets at close ranges.
* Limited penetration of rockets even on direct hits, being only able to damage open SPG's and very lightly armoured tanks and SPAA's

== History ==

===Development===
The concept of a multiple rocket launcher system came about in June 1938, when the Soviet Jet Propulsion Research Institute was authorized by the Main Artillery Directorate to develop such system for the RS-132 rocket in use on their aircraft. A prototype by I. Gvay in Chelyabinsk was tried and fired M-132 rockets on ZiS-5 trucks, though these were unstable and were revised on the proposals of V.N. Galkovskiy to mount the launching rails longitudinally. Testing for the newly made prototype began at the end of 1938, firing 233 rounds in a couple of salvos. The rockets were found to be able to hit up to 5,500 meters out, but the system was not looked fondly upon by the artillery branch. It took 50 minutes to load 24 rockets onto the launching rail, while a regular artillery cannon and howitzer can fire about a hundred in the same time at a sustained rate.

Testing continued up until 1940 and with a prototype of a truck with the launch rails on the back. The design was approved for production before Germany invaded the Soviet Union in June 1941, and mass-production began after the first month of the war, where the multiple rocket launchers proved very successful. During the war, the launchers were taken with much secrecy and operated by specialized troops such as the NKVD who do not even know its true name. Through the presence of a "K" on the vehicles from the Komintern Factory, the soldiers operating decided to nickname these launchers ''"Katyusha"'' after a popular wartime song of the same name. Up to 3,237 of all types of Katyusha launchers were produced from 1941 to the end of 1942, and more than 10,000 were made by the end of the war.

===Advantages and disadvantages===
Compared to the contemporary artillery systems of the time, the multiple rocket launcher system presented a different kind of artillery barrages used in the field. Advantages the multiple rocket launcher was that they were simple, extremely effective in saturation bombardment, fires lots of ordnance in a small time span, and were usually attached to mobile vehicles that can permit a quick retreat after firing to prevent counter-battery firing. Disadvantages with the system was that the rockets took a long time to reload, less accurate than regular artillery guns, and cannot sustain fire for a long period of time. However, in the battlefield, the multiple rocket launcher induces a greater psychological effect onto the targets on the receiving end due to the heavy amount of explosives able to be delivered in a short time. A battery of only four launchers could deliver their salvos of about 4.35 tons of explosives in a span of no longer than 10 seconds at a 400,000 square meter area.

===Designations===
Multiple variants of the multiple rocket launcher system were made in the course of the war as the design is simply the attachment of launch rails onto a variety of vehicles. Each vehicle has different names that follows a template to distinguish their types.
* "BM-x-y" indicates a ground vehicle.
* "M-x-y" indicates a towed variant.
* "y-M-x" indicates a naval variant.
and "x" stands for the missile model while "y" stands for the number of launch rails available for the launcher variant. For example, the BM-8-16 indicates a ground vehicle firing M-8 rockets with 16 rails available to mount on.

Vehicles using the Katyusha launchers range from trucks, cars, and tanks. The production started with trucks such as the ZiS-6, then moving on to STZ-5 artillery tractors, then on Allied Lend-Lease vehicles. The 82 mm M-8 rockets, which saw service in August 1941, was the most popular rocket variant and saw use on the trucks and even tanks, which would make the '''BM-8-24''' rocket launcher tank mounted on the [[T-60]] light tank. Another attempt with tank mounting was with a [[KV-1 (L-11)|KV-1]] heavy tank as the ''KV-1K'', but as a waste of heavy armour, this was scrapped.

===Combat usage===
The Katyusha rocket launchers first saw service during the opening of Operation Barbarossa against Germany. On July 14, 1941 under the experimental battery commanded by Captain Ivan Flyorov, seven launchers were used in Rudnya and were able to cause massive destruction to the Germans in he town before they fled in panic. This success prompted the Red Army to build up more Katyushas in their inventory and raise more batteries and regiments for the vehicle. All these units were under NKVD control for secrecy until the Germans reveal their own multiple rocket launcher system, the Nebelwerfer. The Germans nicknamed the Katyusha launchers as the ''"Stalin's Organ"'' after Joseph Stalin and how the launchers are organized in a way to look like church organ. This German nickname became widely known in other areas in Western Europe. By the end of 1941, eight regiments and 37 independent battalions were available with a count of 554 Katyushas total.

The rocket launchers continue to become more integrated into the rest of the army as the war continued. Heavy mortar battalions were armed with the newer M-30 rocket launchers with heavy 300 mm M-30 rockets on June 1942. In July, a battalion of rocket launchers were added into the tank corps. The organization and equipment of these mortar battalions equipped with the Katyusha continue to increase and by the end of the war in 57 regiments, about 518 batteries of Katyusha launchers were available.

===Legacy===
The Katyusha launchers, issued in large numbers in the Eastern Front, was largely successful in the strategic effect of the war, granting the Soviet Union the ability to lay down a very heavy and shocking bombardment very quickly. The success of the system prompted many other countries to pursuit such a system as well, such as the modified [[Calliope|T34 Calliope]] based off the Sherman and the Germans [[15 cm Pz.W.42|Panzerwerfer 42]]s. Today, the multiple rocket launcher system is still widespread with the implementation of newer technology, rockets, and missiles that makes the rocket launcher system a very potent weapon to anyone on the receiving end.

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=ussr&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=ussr_bm_8_24 BM-8-24] in Warthunder Live.

== Read also ==
* [https://warthunder.com/en/devblog/current/810/ [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> BМ-8-24 Rocket Artillery - with developer's answers]

== Sources ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyusha_rocket_launcher Wikipedia]

{{USSR tank destroyers}}
{{USSR premium ground vehicles}}

BM-13N

2019-04-04T13:42:26Z

U177059: Wikipedia link added / Link to Skins in WT Live

{{Specs-Card|code=ussr_bm_13n}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{specs|name}}''' is a gift Rank {{specs|rank}} Soviet tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced during [[Update 1.67 "Assault"]] as part of a Victory Day Event known as "KATYUSHA" during the span of May 06 - 10. The vehicle is unlocked during the event by getting five kills using the [[BM-8-24]].

One of the most unusual vehicle in game, to say the least. Not only is its truck-based configuration not the most common, it also uses 16 x 132 mm M13 rockets as a main armament, has limited traverse, only 2 crew member, and a gun depression of +8°. The last is somewhat compensated by its ability to lean forwards with a [[hydropneumatic suspension|hydropneumatic suspension system]] found on some Rank 5 vehicles. Its gameplay is somewhat comparable to other unique premium machines such as the [[Calliope|T34 ''Calliope'']] or [[Panzerwerfer 42]], but remains a rather unique experience.

The '''BM-13N''', also known as Katyusha, is an artillery piece, belonging more in an artillery formation than in a tank battle. One should stay at a distance from the enemy since its rockets have a blind zone of about 250 meters in front of the truck when moving on a flat surface. This is best used as it was back in the days: to support allies. Best used in RB, it is a nasty surprise.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour (Roof)
* Structural steel (Chassis and driver's cabin)
* Gun steel

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Driver's cabin || 1 mm (77-86°) ''Hood'' 4 mm (38°) ''Driver's windows'' || 1 mm (1-8°) || 4 mm (86°) || 4 mm
|-
| Truck bed || 5 mm || 5 mm || 5 mm || 5 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Wheels provide 2 mm of armour thickness
* No armour in front grille, simple 7.62 mm machine gun rounds can enter and damage the engine.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Add-on Armour weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
| rowspan="2" | 7.9 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 78 (AB)
|-
|72 (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|134
|164
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|83
|94
|-
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|16.96
|20.76
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|10.51
|11.90
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|Rockets (Disambiguation)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Rockets (Disambiguation)|132 mm M13 rockets]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 16 || +8°/+45° || ±10° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 4.2 || 5.8 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 4.2 || 4.9 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 10.4 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| M-13 || SSM || 39 || 39 || 39 || 39 || 39 || 39
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| M-13 || SSM || 355 || 42 || 0.0 || 0.1 || 4,900 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_BM-13N.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the BM-13N.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |6th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |7th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |8th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |9th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |10th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |11th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |12th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |13th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |14th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |15th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |16th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''16''' || 15 || 14 || 13 || 12 || 11 || 10 || 9 || 8 || 7 || 6 || 5 || 4 || 3 || 2 || 1 || 0 || style="text-align:left" | no
|-
|}

Rockets deplete right to left, columns first

== Usage in the battles ==

There is two main ways to use the Katyusha:

'''''Artillery''''' 
This truck is a real killer in an open field, provided it could hit its target before it is noticed. Since its main sight lack ranging marks, one should estimate the correct angle, shoot a rocket, watch where it lands, adjust fire, retry it as many time as it needs. Do not take too much time at range finding since a single shot can end your day. Once the correct angle is found, '''unleash hell'' on your enemies, blinding them with dust lifting up from the ground, detonating ammo racks and blasting off tracks. This is basically an intelligent artillery barrage. Once all rockets are fired, fall back behind ally lines, find a captured objective to reload at, repeat.

'''''Ambusher''''' 
Best used in an urban combat scenario, when your team is losing. In these kind of times, enemies often rush the base/objectives without watching corners very well. This is your chance: find yourself a pile of rubble and lift the rear of the truck on it in such a way that you can fire right in front of you, past the corner. When an enemy passes by, spread it with rockets until it dies, using your good rate of fire. This tactic is often a last resort since you're cornered and encircled, you may kill 1 or more enemy if you're lucky but you will eventually be spotted or run out of rockets.

When firing, try to aim for these:

* '''Tank's bellies''': since almost no tank has more than 40 mm of armour underneat, it can disable them.
* '''Tracks''': To immobilize your foes, providing your allies a chance to finish them off. Some tanks store ammo over the tracks, it can detonate them.
* '''Gun barrel''': Blasting off your ennemy's gun barrell will incapacitate it from effectively firing back at your allies.
* '''Engine deck''': Can disable a tank's engine, in the best case scenario igniting it.
* '''Turret front'''/ '''Commander's hatch''': Many tanks have weak top armour, use it to your advantage.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* Powerful 132mm M13 rockets that can pierce 39 mm of steel
* High fire rate
* Moderate speed
* High velocity rockets
* Adjustable suspension
* Can be used in deceptions: A similar model is used as decorations on some maps, without rockets and add-on armour, which may allow the player to hide. Works better when in group of 2 or more.

'''Cons:'''

* Horribly protected against artillery and planes, Team kills are frequent due to this
* Distinguishable firing signature
* Lacks of other armaments beside rockets
* Bad gun traverse
* Low rocket supply of 16
* Technically has the worst gun depression in game of +8°
* Large dead zone in front of vehicle up to 250 meters on default suspension adjustment
* The only 2 crew members are barely protected
* Little to no armour, as expected from a truck

== History ==

===Development===
The concept of a multiple rocket launcher system came about in June 1938, when the Soviet Jet Propulsion Research Institute was authorized by the Main Artillery Directorate to develop such system for the RS-132 rocket in use on their aircraft. A prototype by I. Gvay in Chelyabinsk was tried and fired M-132 rockets on ZiS-5 trucks, though these were unstable and were revised on the proposals of V.N. Galkovskiy to mount the launching rails longitudinally. Testing for the newly made prototype began at the end of 1938, firing 233 rounds in a couple of salvos. The rockets were found to be able to hit up to 5,500 meters out, but the system was not looked fondly upon by the artillery branch. It took 50 minutes to load 24 rockets onto the launching rail, while a regular artillery cannon and howitzer can fire about a hundred in the same time at a sustained rate.

Testing continued up until 1940 and with a prototype of a truck with the launch rails on the back. The design was approved for production before Germany invaded the Soviet Union in June 1941, and mass-production began after the first month of the war, where the multiple rocket launchers proved very successful. During the war, the launchers were taken with much secrecy and operated by specialized troops such as the NKVD who do not even know its true name. Through the presence of a "K" on the vehicles from the Komintern Factory, the soldiers operating decided to nickname these launchers ''"Katyusha"'' after a popular wartime song of the same name. Up to 3,237 of all types of Katyusha launchers were produced from 1941 to the end of 1942, and more than 10,000 were made by the end of the war.

===Advantages and disadvantages===
Compared to the contemporary artillery systems of the time, the multiple rocket launcher system presented a different kind of artillery barrages used in the field. Advantages the multiple rocket launcher was that they were simple, extremely effective in saturation bombardment, fires lots of ordnance in a small time span, and were usually attached to mobile vehicles that can permit a quick retreat after firing to prevent counter-battery firing. Disadvantages with the system was that the rockets took a long time to reload, less accurate than regular artillery guns, and cannot sustain fire for a long period of time. However, in the battlefield, the multiple rocket launcher induces a greater psychological effect onto the targets on the receiving end due to the heavy amount of explosives able to be delivered in a short time. A battery of only four launchers could deliver their salvos of about 4.35 tons of explosives in a span of no longer than 10 seconds at a 400,000 square meter area.

===Designations===
Multiple variants of the multiple rocket launcher system were made in the course of the war as the design is simply the attachment of launch rails onto a variety of vehicles. Each vehicle has different names that follows a template to distinguish their types.

* "BM-x-y" indicates a ground vehicle.
* "M-x-y" indicates a towed variant.
* "y-M-x" indicates a naval variant.

and "x" stands for the missile model while "y" stands for the number of launch rails available for the launcher variant. For example, the BM-8-16 indicates a ground vehicle firing M-8 rockets with 16 rails available to mount on.

Vehicles using the Katyusha launchers range from trucks, cars, and tanks. The production started with trucks such as the ZiS-6, then moving on to STZ-5 artillery tractors, then on Allied Lend-Lease vehicles. The 82 mm M-8 rockets, which saw service in August 1941, was the most popular rocket variant and saw use on the trucks and even tanks, which would make the '''BM-8-24''' rocket launcher tank mounted on the [[T-60]] light tank. Another attempt with tank mounting was with a [[KV-1 (L-11)|KV-1]] heavy tank as the ''KV-1K'', but as a waste of heavy armour, this was scrapped.

===Combat usage===
The Katyusha rocket launchers first saw service during the opening of Operation Barbarossa against Germany. On July 14, 1941, under the experimental battery commanded by Captain Ivan Flyorov, seven launchers were used in Rudnya and were able to cause massive destruction to the Germans in the town before they fled in panic. This success prompted the Red Army to build up more Katyushas in their inventory and raise more batteries and regiments for the vehicle. All these units were under NKVD control for secrecy until the Germans reveal their own multiple rocket launcher system, the Nebelwerfer. The Germans nicknamed the Katyusha launchers ''"Stalin's Orgel"'', literally "Stalin's Organ" after Joseph Stalin and how the launchers are organized in a way which looks like a church organ. This German nickname became widely known in other areas in Western Europe. By the end of 1941, eight regiments and 37 independent battalions were available with a count of 554 Katyushas total.

The rocket launchers continue to become more integrated into the rest of the army as the war continued. Heavy mortar battalions were armed with the newer M-30 rocket launchers with heavy 300 mm M-30 rockets in June 1942. In July, a battalion of rocket launchers was added to the tank corps. The organization and equipment of these mortar battalions equipped with the Katyusha continue to increase and by the end of the war in 57 regiments, about 518 batteries of Katyusha launchers were available.

===Legacy===
The Katyusha launchers, issued in large numbers in the Eastern Front, was largely successful in the strategic effect of the war, granting the Soviet Union the ability to lay down a very heavy and shocking bombardment very quickly. The success of the system prompted many other countries to pursuit such a system as well, such as the modified [[Calliope|T34 Calliope]] based off the Sherman and the Germans [[Panzerwerfer 42]]s. Today, the multiple rocket launcher system is still widespread with the implementation of newer technology, rockets, and missiles that makes the rocket launcher system a very potent weapon to anyone on the receiving end.

== Media ==
[https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=ussr&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=ussr_bm_13n '''Skins''' and '''camouflages''' for the BM-13N series from live.warthunder.com.]

===Images===
[[File:Wallpaper BM-13NKatyusha.jpg|x400px|none|War Thunder Facebook announcement image]]

==Obtainable events==
The BM-13N has only been offered once during the [http://warthunder.com/en/news/4687-vday-bm-13n-say-hello-from-katyusha-en V-Day event "Rocket Launch"] in the time span between May 06-10 2017.

== Read also ==

* [http://warthunder.com/en/news/4687-vday-bm-13n-say-hello-from-katyusha-en [Event<nowiki>]</nowiki> BM-13N: Say Hello from Katyusha!]

== Sources ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyusha_rocket_launcher Wikipedia]

{{USSR tank destroyers}}
{{USSR premium ground vehicles}}

Bfw. Jagdpanther G1

2019-04-04T13:39:03Z

U177059: Wikipedia link added / Link to Skins in WT Live

{{Specs-Card|code=germ_panzerbefelhswagen_jagdpanther}}
{{Notice|''This page is about the premium tank destroyer '''{{PAGENAME}}'''. For the regular version see [[Jagdpanther]], or [[Panther (Disambiguation)]] for other uses''}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{Break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} German tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before [[Update 1.41]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

'''Armour type:'''
* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet)
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides (Slope angle) !! Rear (slope angle) !! Roof (Slope angle)
|-
| Hull || 80 mm (55°) ''Front glacis'' 60 mm (54°) ''Bottom glacis''|| 40 + 5 mm || 40 mm (24-26°) || 25 mm
|-
| Superstructure || Same as Hull || 50 mm (26-29°)|| 40 mm (36°) || 25 mm (85°)
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''
*Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick, though the interleaved pattern of the wheels provide cumulative 20 mm protection.
*Tracks and lower side of the hull are covered by 5 mm thick armour plate, protecting them from HEAT and HE shells.
*Rear parts of the upper side hull armour have tracks attached to it, adding additional 20 mm of armour.
*Belly armour is 20 mm thick.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Add-on Armor weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
| rowspan="2" | 46.0 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 60 (AB)
|-
|55 (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|994
|___
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|619
|700
|-
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|21.61
|__.__
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|13.46
|15.22
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|PaK 43 (88 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[PaK 43 (88 mm)|88 mm PaK 43]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 60 || -8°/+14° || ±11° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 7.04 || 9.75 || __.__ || __.__ || 13.93
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 4.76 || 5.60 || __.__ || __.__ || 8.00
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 11.05 || __.__ || __.__ || 8.50
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| PzGr 39/43 || APCBC || 236 || 234 || 221 || 207 || 193 || 180
|-
| Sprgr || HE || 13 || 13 || 12 || 11 || 11 || 11
|-
| Hl.Gr 39 || HEAT || 110 || 110 || 110 || 110 || 110 || 110
|-
| PzGr 40/43 || APCR || 272 || 270 || 250 || 228 || 208 || 189
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| PzGr 39/43 || APCBC || 1,000 || 10.16 || 0.8 || 28 || 108.8 || +4° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| Sprgr || HE || 820 || 9 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 698 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Hl.Gr 39 || HEAT || 600 || 7.64 || 0.0 || 0.3 || 1,100 || +0° || 62° || 69° || 73°
|-
| PzGr 40/43 || APCR || 1,130 || 7.3 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +1.5° || 66° || 70° || 72°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_Jagdpanther.png|x250px|right|thumbnail|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the Jagdpanther.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''60''' || 46 ''(+14)'' || 31 ''(+29)'' || 16 ''(+44)'' || 1 ''(+59)'' || style="text-align:left" | Yes
|-
|}

Left side empty: 31 ''(+29)''

=== Machine guns ===

{{main|MG 34 (7.92 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | [[MG 34 (7.92 mm)|7.92 mm MG 34]]
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Hull mount''
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 3,000 (150) || 900 || -5°/+10° || -10°/+5°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The '''Jagdpanther''' is best used defensively, to cover capture points and prevent their capture, and cover friendly tank advances. It's highly recommended to hide the lower frontal plate in this tank, as it has a frontal mounted transmission which will set the tank on fire if shot, as well as destroying the transmission. It's also strongly advised to use this tank at long range, and change position often.

It is important to keep in mind that the Jagdpanther's armour is sloped. Using it on the side of a hill facing the enemy is extremely dangerous, since this would decrease the angle at which the frontal armour and sloped and thus negate a large part of its survival capabilities. By hiding behind buildings, trees and bushes, or on top of a hill, you optimise it's fighting capabilities. A well positioned Jagdpanther is very hard to destroy. In addition, using the Jagdpanther in a diamond position (with your right side facing the enemy) will mean that your most important crew members are better protected (driver, gunner, commander) since they are on the other side.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''
*Good mobility
*Excellent firepower with great long-range sniping abilities
*Armour of a [[Panther A|Panther]], so adequately armoured
*Unlike earlier Tank destroyers as the [[StuG III G|StuG]]s, [[Jagdpanzer IV]]s, [[Marder III H|Marder]]s and [[Jagdpanzer 38(t)|Hetzer]]; it has 5 crew, rather than 4
*Front of the Jagdpanther makes it easy to attach a lot of camouflage to conceal the tank destroyer
*Gun sight has an enhanced zoom level
*Has fully functional hull machine gun
*Since it is an SPG, it requires less spawn points in RB than a normal tank
'''Cons:'''
*Bad reverse speed
*Panther hull armour isn't as effective against enemies it would face, rounds like the the APDS from the 20 pdr can easily penetrate
*Front mounted transmission. Can catch fire and immobilizes vehicle when shot through lower frontal plate
*Like most Tank Destroyers, it lacks a turret
*A lot bigger than the [[StuG III G|StuG III]], [[Jagdpanzer IV]]s, and the [[Jagdpanzer 38(t)|Hetzer]], so may need to get used to the size and how to conceal it
*Penetration from the sides would often mean lethal as sides are littered with ammo

== History ==

===Development===
Nazi Germany created the formidable 8.8 cm Pak 43 anti-tank gun, a longer version of the 8.8 cm Kwk 36. 2 attempts were made to fit this gun onto a self-propelled configuration, the first was [[Ferdinand|Panzerjäger Tiger (P) Ferdinand]] (later Elefant) and the second was the Nashorn. However, the Ferdinand was too heavy and unreliable while the [[Nashorn]] was too small and underpowered to propel such a gun. The '''Jagdpanther''' was proposed in late 1942, as a tank destroyer from the [[Panther D|Panther]] chassis that could mount the formidable 8.8 cm Pak 43 with good armor and speed. The tank destroyer was created and designated '''SdKfz 173''' and was demonstrated to Hitler on October 1943. Production then started in January 1944 under the simpler name '''Jagdpanther''' by Hitler rather than using the longer '''8.8 cm Pak 43/3 auf Panzerjäger Panther'''.

Throughout its production life of Janurary 1944 to 1945, 415 total of these vehicles were made. MIAG produced 270 from Januray 1944 to the end of the war, MNH produced 112 from November 1944, and MBA produced 37 from December 1944. The supposed goal was 150 Jagdpanther produced a month, but Germany's deteriorating situation made this impossible. The Jagdpanthers were made in two variants, '''G1''' and '''G2'''. The G1 had a small internally bolted main gun and modified Panther Ausf. A engine deckwhile the G2 had a larger simplified, outer bolted mantlet with a modified Panther Ausf. G engine deck. A proposal to mount the 12.8 cm Pak 80 was mentioned, but never came around to production.

The Jagdpanther was a rather good design as a tank destroyer, it had a good power-to weight ratio and had a gun that could kill any allied tank in service in the war. It did not suffer as much reliability problems due to being based of the later model [[Panther G|Panther Ausf. G]], which had most of the initial problems fixed. It also used an improved transmission and final drive (the two sources of most Panther issues) that was planned for the Panther II.

===Command variant===
Jagdpanthers were assigned to heavy tank destroyer battalions in the Western Front and Eastern Front, but they required a vehicle to house the commander of each battalion. So during the Jagdpanther's production, a command vehicle variant was also made from the Jagdpanther. These vehicles are distinguishable from the regular-issued Jagdpanthers with the presence of more antennas to house the FuG8 30W radio that allows communication between the command tank and headquarters. Each battalion would have access to two '''Befehlswagen Jagdpanther''' for use to coordinate the battalion, other units in each battalion is 14 normal Jagdpanthers, 5 Bergepanthers for armor recovery, a repair company, two anti-aircraft platoons, a combat engineer platoon, and an armored reconnaissance platoon

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=germany&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=germ_panzerbefelhswagen_jagdpanther Bfw. Jagdpanther] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==

* [[Jagdpanther]] - Non-premium version of the Jagdpanther.

== External links ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagdpanther Wikipedia]

{{Germany tank destroyers}}
{{Germany premium ground vehicles}}

Avenger

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{{Specs-Card|code=uk_a30_sp_avenger}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} British tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. It is armed with the 17-pounder, with no secondary armament. It was based on a lengthened Cromwell hull from the [[Challenger|A30 Challenger]] from World War II.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===


Avenger is one of the most unexpected survivors on battlefields of War Thunder, both arcade and realistic mode.
All of this is due to fact, that it's crew sits in very specific places and vehicle's armour doesn't have any small weird weak spots. In fact, armour and overall module placement is so solid, it can sometimes hold off SPAA attack, some bombs and, with some angling and range, even stock [[M4A3E2]] shells.

Even if shells penetrate (usually though angled sides of turret), usually only 2 crew members get knocked out.
The only strange weakspot it has is the windows on top of turret. While roof windows seem to be a flaw, as it creates potential for HE shells to simply fly inside of Avenger and decimate entire crew, in reality nobody uses them at this BR. Even strafing planes have hard time hitting anything through those windows, and rather penetrate roof completely, which is still a challenge.

Because of that, windows instead give enemy APHE shells a high chance to bounce around and fly out of window without exploding inside of vehicle. In fact, this happens so often, single avenger can survive up to 6 direct shots while losing only gunner or loader, while vehicles like [[Sherman Firefly]] would be destroyed in one hit by those.

'''Armour Type:'''
* Rolled homogeneous armour
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 63.5 mm (1°) ''Front plate'' 30 mm (71°) ''Front glacis'' 57.15 mm (19°) ''Lower glacis''|| 14 mm || 38.1 mm (1°) ''Top'' 38.1 mm (13-59°) ''Bottom'' || 20 mm
|-
| Turret || 63.5 mm (0-49°) ''Turret front'' 40 mm (30-31°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 40 mm (0-1°) || 40 mm (8-40°) || 20 mm
|}
'''Notes:'''
* Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick.
* Rack on top of the hull rear seems to be stacking 38.1 mm armour. No concrete evidence of their effectiveness as of yet.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
!colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Add-on Armour weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
|rowspan="2" | 31.5 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 56 (AB)
|-
|52 (RB/SB)
|-
!colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|852
|1,049
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|531
|600
|-
!colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|27.05
|33.30
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|16.86
|19.04
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|Ordnance QF 17-pounder (76 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Ordnance QF 17-pounder (76 mm)|76 mm OQF 17-pounder]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 55 || -10°/+17° || ±180° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 12.33 || 17.06 || __.__ || __.__ || 24.38
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 8.33 || 9.80 || __.__ || __.__ || 14.00
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 7.28 || __.__ || __.__ || 5.60
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Shot Mk.6 || AP || 160 || 157 || 133 || 112 || 96 || 86
|-
| Shell Mk.1 || HE || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9
|-
| Shot Mk.4 || APC || 165 || 160 || 138 || 108 || 94 || 81
|-
| Shot Mk.8 || APCBC || 171 || 168 || 156 || 143 || 130 || 120
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Shot Mk.6 || AP || 883 || 7.7 || N/A || N/A || N/A || -1° || 47° || 60° || 65°
|-
| Shell Mk.1 || HE || 883 || 7.0 || 0.4 || 0.5 || 580 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Shot Mk.4 || APC || 883 || 7.7 || N/A || N/A || N/A || -1° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| Shot Mk.8 || APCBC || 883 || 7.7 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +4° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="7" | Smoke characteristic
|-
! Ammunition
! Velocity in m/s
! Projectile Mass in kg
! ''Screen radius in m''
! ''Screen time in s''
! ''Screen hold time in s:''
! ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
|-
| 17pdr Shell SS Mk.1 || 754 || 8.4 || 13 || 5 || 20 || 50
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|Ammo racks of the {{PAGENAME}}.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |6th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |7th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |8th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''55''' || 49 ''(+6)'' || 42 ''(+13)'' || 35 ''(+20)'' || 28 ''(+27)'' || 21 ''(+34)'' || 14 ''(+41)'' || 7 ''(+48)'' || 1 ''(+54)'' || style="text-align:left" | yes
|-
|}

Turret empty: 49 ''(+6)''

== Usage in the battles ==

The Avenger plays like an upgunned and a bit more sluggish Cromwell. There are two main play styles possible with this vehicle.

'''Close range flanker''': The Avenger's mobility allows it to sneak up to the enemy's flank without too much problems. With its awesome gun depression, it can pop over a hill and shoot before engaging a "turn fight" (running around the enemy's tank too fast so he can't aim at you). Such manoeuvre has a greater chance of success on isolated enemies since you need to get at least 2 shots to destroy any tank you might encounter. This kind of strategy is great early in the game, to counter-capture a point by , for example, an enemy Hellcat that rushed it. A small note there: make sure to pre-aim in the general direction of your enemy since the turret turning rate is not so great.

'''Sniper''': As said earlier, the Avenger's crazy depression angles and good gun, combined with its great mobility and good climbing characteristics makes it ideal for the sniper role. It's mobility allows the Avenger to get anywhere on the map, an intelligent pilot will avoid main roads where encountering enemies upfront is often a death sentence and prefer unexpected roads, surprising camping spots, your enemy must never know where to expect a shot from. When firing, make sure to change position every 2-3 shots (every time you kill a tank). With a good mix of luck and skill, you can even find a good viewing point on the enemy's base pretty early in the game (even in AB !). Make sure sure to hide your turret top since HE and some APHE can detonate from the thin plate of your half open-topped turret, resulting in a crew knock out. One last thing to consider: the Avenger's functional elevation angle is lower than its characteristics says: the optics gets blinded in the last 1-2 degrees.

What's great with this vehicle is it can change role pretty fast in the game. A great way to use this vehicle at its plains potential is on a map like Mozdok or El Amalein. A good example of tactics is being flanker early game, then sniper to clear the next capture point and then flanker again to go get it (provided you do not get shut down).

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''
* Cromwell-esque controls with good acceleration and speed.
* Neutral steering allows for quick alignment of hull.
* Access to the 17-pounder "Quickfire" cannon.
* Good gun depression.
* Very fast rate of fire.
'''Cons:'''
* No machine gun armament.
* 17-pounder AP shells are all solid shot, no explosive filler.
* Vulnerable turret, no exterior gun mantlet.
* Sluggish handling.
* Terrible reverse speed.
* Armour is not sloped.
* Very poor side armour.
* Gun traverse speed is only subpar.

== History ==

===Basis===
The [[Challenger|A30 Challenger]] tank was an improved variant of the [[Cromwell V|Cromwell]] tank made to improve the firepower of the armoured brigades in the British Army. While equipped with the 17-pounder, the Challenger ran into issues with production and mechanical issues, along with design deficiencies that was much criticized by the crew that manned the tank. The Challenger had thin armour, had a tendency for track throwing, and had a high profile. However, it was praised for its speed, agility, and firepower with the 17-pounder gun. The Challenger was ordered in February 1943 for 200 vehicles, but the development of the [[Sherman Firefly|Firefly]] from the [[M4|Sherman]] tank proved much easier and cheaper than the Challenger and was thus cancelled.

===The Avenger===
An attempt to improve on the Challenger was the [[Avenger|A30 SP Avenger]], which used a different open-topped turret to save weight on the tank design. However, due to priorities on the [[Comet I|Comet]] tank in the Vauxhall Motors plant, they were not being built until 1945 and weren't used until after the war in Europe is over. 250 unit were built and formed part of the British Army of the Rhine stationed in Germany after the war. They did not see any combat action during their service life.

== Media ==
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==References==
<references />

== Read also ==


== Sources ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruiser_Mk_VIII_Challenger#Variants Wikipedia]

{{Britain tank destroyers}}

ASU-85

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{{Specs-Card|code=ussr_asu_85}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_ASU-85.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{specs|rank}} Russian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.59 "Flaming Arrows"]]. It's low profile and extremely potent gun makes it a wonderful contender in the 6.7 BR range. However, the lack of armour makes it hard use this vehicle in open environments. Everything will become easier when the HEAT-FS shell with 300 mm penetration at any distance is unlocked.

The ASU-85 has a rather unorthodox method of using it's smoke screen. Unlike most vehicles, which use smoke shells, singular canisters, or canister clusters, the ASU-85 uses two large drum like structures at the rear. When deployed, these will drop away, so it's relatively easy to tell from close range whether or not an ASU-85 has smoke or not, and how many it has.

Be wary of the this method of deployment, as due to the orientation of the drums, the smoke screen will actually form ''behind'' the tank, and take about 2-3 seconds to fully envelope the assault gun.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

'''Armour type:'''
* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet)
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 45 mm (60°) ''Front glacis'' 45 mm (37°) ''Lower glacis'' 50 mm ''Driver port''|| 6 mm || 6 mm (40°) ''Upper'' 6 mm (18°) ''Lower'' || 6 mm
|-
| Superstructure || 45 mm (60°) ''Front glacis'' 100 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 13 mm (37-38°) || 6 mm || 13 mm ''Front'' 6 mm ''Rear''
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''
* Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick, tracks are 15 mm thick.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
!colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Add-on Armour weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
|rowspan="2" | 15.9 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 49 (AB)
|-
|45 (RB/SB)
|-
!colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|298
|___
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|186
|210
|-
!colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|18.74
|21.03
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|11.70
|13.21
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|D-70 (85 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[D-70 (85 mm)|85 mm D-70]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 39 || -4°/+15° || ±15° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 4.2 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 4.2 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 11.2 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| BR-372 || APBC || 230 || 227 || 214 || 199 || 186 || 172
|-
| OF-372 || HE || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11 || 11
|-
| 3BK7 || HEATFS || 300 || 300 || 300 || 300 || 300 || 300
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| BR-372 || APBC || 1040 || 9.3 || 1.2 || 15 || 85 || +4° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| OF-372 || HE || 1010 || 9.7 || 0.1 || 0.3 || 740 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| 3BK7 || HEATFS || 925 || 7.2 || 0.1 || 0.1 || 1,590 || +0° || 65° || 72° || 75°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_ASU-85.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] on the ASU-85.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |6th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''39''' || 33 ''(+6)'' || 26 ''(+13)'' || 19 ''(+20)'' || 13 ''(+26)'' || 7 ''(+32)'' || 1 ''(+38)'' || style="text-align:left" | No
|-
|}

Front empty: 26 ''(+13)'' Sides only: 33 ''(+6)''

=== Machine guns ===

{{main|SGMT (7.62 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | [[SGMT (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm SGMT]]
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Coaxial mount''
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 2,000 (250) || 600 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in the battles ==

The stock shell is good. 230mm penetration is enough for weak spots in Rank IV. It is recommended to get the HEAT-FS shell as soon as possible for the ultimate 300 mm penetration for the vehicle. Beware of any incoming fire however, the armour is weak at only 45 mm thickest at the front. The mobility is mediocre, remember to cover flanks

*'''Sniper''': This tank doesn't surpass other snipers in Rank IV, due to the lack of armour. Utilize all possible mechanics to aid in acquiring and ranging the targets, especially the binoculars and range finder modification.
*'''Ambush''': Find somewhere in the map where most of the fight will happen, find a good view with nice covers at there. Or just sitting in some bushes near the flanking routes.

Some enemies to be concerned of:
* Tiger II [[Tiger II (P)|(P)]], [[Tiger II (H)|(H)]], [[Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K)|105 mm]]: Shoot at the turret cheeks (only front weakspot). If the HEAT shell is available, shoot the HEAT straight into their hull.
* [[Panther II]]: Use HEAT against hull if it is at a close range and is looking right at the vehicle. In a longer distance, try for the lower glacis and the turret cheeks
* [[T29|T29]]: Shoot the lower glacis if engaging it frontally. There are a few weak points in the front turret as well, look for them.
* [[Caernarvon|Caernavron]]: Fire at the turret ring and lower glacis.
* [[Tortoise|A39 Tortoise]]: Aim towards the machine gun port on the left side, there will be a weak point present.
* [[T95|T95]]: Aim towards one of the two commander cupolas on the roof. Try to aim at its side so that the penetrating shell can detonate inside and severely damage the crew.
* [[Jagdtiger|Jagdtiger]]: A well-protected armoured beast. If caught in the front, try to engage it with HEAT shells, preferably at the lower glacis.
* [[M26E1|M26E1]]: Though dangerous towards the ASU, its armour is similar to the [[M26|M26 Pershing]] and could be easily taken out by a good shot on the front hull.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''
* Powerful 85 mm cannon, more powerful than the [[T-34-85]] ones
* Access to HEAT-FS rounds with 300mm penetration
* Tiny profile
* Decent ammo storage for size
* Access to a coaxial machine gun
* Medium gun muzzle velocity
'''Cons:'''
* Slow gun alignment
* Barely any armour, MG rounds may penetrate
* Reverse speed somewhat slow, hard to make hasty retreats.
* Mediocre mobility
* Bad gun depression

== History ==

===Development===
A new assault gun was requested by the Armed Forces sometime before 1953. Due to the success of the [[ASU-57]], they tasked the OKB-40 design bureau headed by Nikolaj Astrov to design the vehicle. The design, designated ''Object 573'', was ready for tests in the latter half of 1953. Constant changes and improvement was made from the span of 1956 to 1957. The design used the chassis of the [[PT-76B|PT-76]] amphibious light tank design, though it did not have the same amphibious feature and had a new engine propelling it. The armament was an 85 mm D-70 gun derived from the 85 mm D-48 anti-tank gun. The design could carry 45 rounds inside and could fire a variety of rounds up to 1 km away. Secondary armament for the vehicle was a GMT or PKT coaxial machine gun. The improved design was going to accepted and enter production in 1958 as the ''SU-85'' (despite the existence of [[SU-85|a vehicle of the same name]]), but this was again delayed when the Ministry of Defense ordered an armoured roof to be installed. The design was to enter production in 1961, but by then the design was rather outdated for army forces usage. Thus, when the vehicle entered production, it was taken up by the VDV, the Soviet Airborne Forces, and renamed the '''ASU-85'''. The ASU-85 was produced from 1959 to 1966, while staying in service from 1959 all the way to 1993.

===Usage===
The Soviet airborne forces primarily used the ASU-85 as a light infantry support/assault gun. Advancements in air-drop techniques and the advent of helicopters made its air deployment a more viable option in the early 1960s. The Soviet Union deployed 31 ASU-85s to each of its airborne divisions in and assault gun battalion. The Soviet Union used the ASU-85 during the Soviet-Afghan War with the airborne troops stationed there.

The ASU-85 was only given out to Poland and Vietnam. Poland used the ASU-85s in the same manner as the Soviet Union, with 31 vehicles in each airborne divisions. The ASU-85 are still in service in the Vietnamese military, with interests on improving their technical performances in early 2016.<ref name="JaneASU-85">Fisher, Richard D., Jr. "DSA 2016: Vietnam May Update Soviet Era ASU-85s." IHS Jane's 360, 21 Apr. 2016. Web. 23 Sept. 2016.</ref>

The ASU-85 also serves as the genesis of other support vehicles using the derived PT-76 chassis. The most notable vehicle using a similar chassis was the [[ZSU-23-4|ZSU-23-4 "Shilka"]] anti-aircraft system.

== Media ==

Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=ussr&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=ussr_asu_85 ASU-85] in Warthunder Live.
{{Youtube-gallery|y2G4K-5ZvDw|The ASU-85 in Soviet Airborne service}}

==References==
<references />

== Read also ==
* [http://warthunder.com/en/news/3733-development-asu-85-death-from-the-skies-en/ [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> ASU-85: Death from the Skies]

== Sources ==
* [Http://www.janes.com/article/59688/dsa-2016-vietnam-may-update-soviet-era-asu-85s [World News<nowiki>]</nowiki> Vietnam may update Soviet-era ASU-85s]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASU-85 Wikipedia]

{{USSR tank destroyers}}

ASU-57

2019-04-04T13:30:17Z

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{{Specs-Card|code=ussr_asu_57}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_ASU-57.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''ASU-57''' is a Rank III Russian tank destroyer with a battle rating of 4.3. It was introduced in [[Update 1.59 "Flaming Arrows"]]. It is a tiny, mobile 57 mm gun carriage akin to the [[ZiS-30]].

The ASU-57 is a tiny, open topped, turretless SPG armed with a 57 mm gun with good penetration. It is famously one of the smallest tracked vehicle in the game, weighing only 3.3 tons. Its complete lack of armour makes it extremely vulnerable, its only defense being its small size, making it extremely difficult to notice, let alone hit. It has very good speed and excellent maneuverability, being very nimble for a turretless tank destroyer. The 57 mm gun starts with solid shot rounds, which is troublesome as each shot will make the firing position more apparent. For this reason it is recommended to research the APHE rounds and adjustment of fire to reduce the number of shots needed to destroy an enemy.

The ASU-57 is very difficult but very rewarding and fun to play, and it is not recommended for arcade battles, as its primary advantage, stealth, is lost. The ASU-57 is a master of stealth, famed and beloved by the community by its ability to sneak up on tanks by using its extremely small size. When using the ASU-57, objects that other tanks would ignore or simply drive over are capable of completely hiding the vehicle, making ambushes and surprise attacks the specialty of the ASU-57. This size comes at a cost, however, as the ASU-57 has barely more survivability than a Soviet AA truck.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear (Slope angle) !! Roof !! Belly
|-
| Body || 6 mm (21-65°) ''Front Plate'' 6 mm (38°) ''Lower glacis'' || 4 mm || 6 mm (9°) || 5 mm || 6 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick, tracks are 15 mm thick

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Add-on Armor weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
| rowspan="2" | 3.3 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 50 (AB)
|-
|46 (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|78
|___
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|49
|55
|-
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|23.64
|__.__
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|14.85
|16.67
|-
|}

== Armaments ==

{{main|Ch-51M (57 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Ch-51M (57 mm)|57 mm ch-51M]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 30 || -4°/+12° || ±7° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 7.10 || _.__ || _.__ || __._ || __._
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 7.10 || _.__ || _.__ || __._ || __._
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 6.50 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| BR-271SP || APBC || 128 || 126 || 112 || 96 || 82 || 72
|-
| BR-271M || APCBC || 142 || 140 || 116 || 91 || 72 || 56
|-
| O-271 || HE || 5 || 5 || 5 || 5 || 5 || 5
|-
| BR-271N || APCR || 196 || 193 || 155 || 117 || 89 || 67
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| BR-271SP || APBC || 1020 || 3.4 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +4° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| BR-271M || APCBC || 975 || 2.8 || 1.2 || 20 || 22.1 || +4° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| O-271 || HE || 695 || 3.7 || 0.4 || 0.01 || 220 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| BR-271N || APCR || 1125 || 2.4 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +1.5° || 66° || 70° || 72°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_ASU-57.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the ASU-57.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''30''' || 25 ''(+5)'' || 19 ''(+11)'' || 1 ''(+29)'' || style="text-align:left" | No
|-
|}

Right side empty: 19 ''(+11)''

== Usage in the battles ==

The ASU-57 is best used as an ambusher/flanker, executing surprise attacks from unexpected locations other vehicles would struggle or be unable to reach. The ASU-57 is incredibly short, and by driving up next to an enemy can render the vehicle completely safe, as almost no vehicle has enough gun depression to reach it. For this reason it is recommended to only go after isolated vehicles, as an enemy teammate will be able to assist their ally by destroying the ASU-57. For the maximum efficiency of this tactic, knock out the driver of the enemy vehicle, then rush up to their side before they can bring their gun to bear. Once this is done, try to ammo rack or pick off their crew before they can recover.

Literally any vehicle, be it ground or air, can destroy the ASU-57 within seconds if allowed to get it in their sights.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* Tiny size and very light weight
* Difficult to target at long range
* Easy to conceal. The tank can proceed to the other side of the map and not be seen by anyone
* Good speed and mobility
* Although very vulnerable to strafing by enemy planes, the vehicle can be easily concealed from their view (RB and SB)
* Very low profile makes it impossible to be hit by most enemy tank guns when right next to them
* Powerful 57 mm gun
* Access to APCR ammunition

'''Cons:'''

* Virtually no armour
* High top speed + no armour means the ASU-57 can destroy itself upon hard collision
* Lightweight and tiny size makes it easy to push around by enemy and friendly tanks
* Low ammunition count
* Crew can get knocked out easily by aircraft fire or artillery
* 57 mm gun can struggle to deal with angled armour
* 57 mm gun rarely can destroy vehicles with one shot
* Not suitable for AB players; this tank's main advantage is its small size, so having a big red marker does not play in the player's favour
* No defensive machine guns. SPAA can be a real threat, even at long range
* Crew are packed into the ASU-57, any damage will result in one or more knocked out crew member
* Prone to hull break
* Can really struggle to penetrate certain tanks it will face, such as Jumbos and Churchills
* Poor horizontal and vertical traverse of the gun
* Unsuitable for long range engagements
* Tall grass can hinder clear vision through the sight

== History ==

===Development===
In mid-1940s, sometime either late in World War II or post-war, a proposal was made to develop a vehicle for the airborne troops. The vehicle was to be a lightweight assault gun able to support the paratroopers by being transportable by air. The task was given to two design bureaus, OKB-40 headed by Nikolaj Astrov in Mytischi and the other to Anatoly Karvtsev in Moscow. Astrov designed his vehicle as the ''ASU-76'', armed with a 76 mm D-56T gun. The design ended up being too heavy and its armour way too thin for adequate protection and was cancelled. Kartsev's project was the ''K-73'' which was amphibious and used a 57 mm Ch-51 anti-tank gun as its armament. This was even more thinly armoured than the ASU-76 and was also cancelled.

In 1949, Astrov was able to continue work on his design, but with specifications that the vehicle be made lighter and use the 57 mm Ch-51 gun instead due to its anti-tank performances. The redesigned vehicle was labeled ''Object 572'' and passed the test phases in 1949. It was formally accepted for service as the '''ASU-57''' in 1951 and production lasted from 1950 to 1952 with amounts produced up to a thousand.

===Usage===
The ASU-57, as an airborne vehicle, was made to be air-dropped from planes and land via a rocket-assisted parachute. It was then crewed by its airborne crew and support the airborne troops in their operation. Each airborne division had 54 vehicles at its disposal. It proved successful despite its weak armour and small caliber as this type of vehicle was invaluable in the hands of airborne troops, able to use a mobile artillery vehicle behind enemy lines. The ASU-57 stayed in service in the Soviet Airborne Forces for around 20 years before being replaced by the [[ASU-85]].

The ASU-57 was also given out to the Soviet Union's allies from 1960s to 70s. Such included Egypt, East Germany, North Korea, Poland, Sahrawi Republic, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, and Ethiopia.

== Media ==

{{youtube|url = i-V5rB5UOgA|The ASU-57}}
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=ussr&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=ussr_asu_57 ASU-57] in Warthunder Live.

==References==
<references />

== Read also ==

[http://warthunder.com/en/news/3724-development-asu-57-air-delivery-en/ [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> ASU-57: Air Delivery] 

== Sources ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASU-57 Wikipedia]

{{USSR tank destroyers}}

ARL-44

2019-04-04T13:26:06Z

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{{Specs-Card|code=fr_arl_44}}
{{About
|about=tank destroyer '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
|usage=the heavy tank version
|link=ARL-44 (ACL-1)
}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{specs|rank}} French tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. As a rank III turreted tank destroyer, it performs very well in its role. It is the final iteration of the [[ARL-44]]. With a very good gun and appreciable armour, this tank is deemed to be a long-range sniper on the battlefield. Its only downside lies with its mobility: it is slower than most tanks at this BR.

The ARL-44 bears very distinctive characteristics, with a WWI-style track system (similar to the Churchill) which runs across the whole side of its chassis. This tank is a mix of different inspirations, mainly late war German tank technology such as the [[Panther D|Panther series]] or the [[Tiger II (H)|Tiger II]], from which it takes its sloped frontal armour and tall profile. As France was reviving from WW2, its engineers were hard at work to catch up with tank technology, the ARL-44 series was a training ground for them. This is why this tank has rather weird design choices, coming from both experience and experimentation. This final iteration of the series is comparable to the famous King Tiger (while being not as good).

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===


Distance is your best ally as your armour has many big weak spots. Avoid showing sides and/or back to your enemies and you should be mostly fine. As armour on this tank has very large weak spots, it is better to keep as far as possible from the frontline, using its astonishing gun to knock down enemies.

'''Armour type:'''

* Cast homogeneous armour (Turret)
* Rolled homogeneous armour (Hull)

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 120 mm (48°) ''Front glacis'' 75 mm (63°) ''Lower glacis'' 100 mm (1-80°) ''Machine gun port'' || 50 + (25-50) + 50 mm || 20 mm (72°) ''Top'' 35 mm (32°) ''Bottom'' || 20 mm
|-
| Turret || 110 mm (0-70°) ''Turret front'' 100 mm (0-75°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 60 mm (13-14°) || 30 mm (8°) || 10 mm
|-
! Armour !! Sides !! Roof
|-
| Cupola || 60 mm || 60 mm
|}
'''Notes:'''

* Suspension wheel are 15 mm thick while tracks are 20 mm thick.
* 25 mm RHA plate separate the engine from the crew compartment.

=== Mobility ===


Moving around is the greatest issue an ARL-44 will face: its track traction is very poor and won't allow to move as quickly as you would wish on most terrain. Since your mobility does not make you neither a good flanker nor brawler, keep behind friendly lines, breaking even the heaviest of your foes.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Add-on Armour weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
| rowspan="2" | 50.0 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 41 (AB)
|-
|37 (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|852
|___
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|531
|600
|-
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|17.04
|__.__
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|10.62
|12.00
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|SA45 (90 mm)}}

The gun is clearly what this tank is all about: taking down anything from a good distance. Keep in mind that your reload rate is rather slow. Every penetrating shot carries a very large amount of shrapnel, hence, destroying enemies with one shot is a frequent occurrence, even if this tanks only has solid shots.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[SA45 (90 mm)|90 mm SA45]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 43 || -10°/+20° || ±180° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 13.2 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 8.9 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 13.00 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| 90 mm Obus de rupture || APC || 214 || 212 || 200 || 187 || 175 || 163
|-
| 90 mm Obus explosif || HE || 13 || 13 || 13 || 13 || 13 || 13
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay'' ''in m:
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity'' ''in mm:
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):
! rowspan="2" | Normalization At 30° from horizontal:
! colspan="3" | Ricochet:
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| 90 mm Obus de rupture || APC || 1,000 || 10.6 || N/A || N/A || N/A || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| 90 mm Obus explosif || HE || 700 || 11.3 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 945 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] on the ARL-44.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''43''' || 31 ''(+12)'' || 25 ''(+18)'' || 13 ''(+30)'' || 1 ''(+42)'' || style="text-align:left" | no
|-
|}

Turret empty: 25 ''(+18)''

=== Machine guns ===

{{main|MAC 31 (7.5 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | [[MAC 31 (7.5 mm)|7.5 mm MAC 31]]
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Coaxial mount''
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 5,000 (150) || 1,350 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==


This tank is a dedicated sniper, using it in any other role is a bad idea as its characteristics does not suits it for anything else. Hull-down positions are mostly ineffective as its turret armour is bad. At best, try to hide its LFP behind solid cover. Angling is not very necessary in most cases it is better to face its enemies head-on and concentrate on the firing. If caught in close-quarter combat, make sure to angle its turret ~30 to the left between shots (thus protecting your ammo racks with gun breech).

At this BR, you are not the only good sniper on the battlefield, watch out for SPGs as they can take you out from a very good distance. Still, these are not your biggest fear, armoured SPGs and heavy tanks are.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''
* '''What a gun !'''
** Very good 90 mm gun with lots of penetration
** Average reload rate
** Lots of shrapnels
** Fast round: easy to aim at distances
* An armour tailored for a sniper
** Has 120 mm of sloped armour on the glacis plate.
** Better overall armour than the [[ARL-44 (ACL-1)]]
** Side armour is complex, negates occasional HEAT shells.
** Can be played a little like a heavy tank when facing weaker enemies.
* Mobility is alright as long as you don't push it
** Good acceleration at low speeds
** Good hull turning rate

'''Cons:'''

* Does not like getting shot at, especially up close
** Large silhouette
** Vulnerable side profile. Big and flat.
** Wall of ammo behind the upper glacis plate, penetrating it can result in an ammo rack
** There is a shell staying next to breach that won't go away untill all ammo is spent. Shells penetrating the turret and hitting the breach have high chance of blowing it up.
** Turret armour is underwhelming at 100mm-110mm of flat armour. German 75mm can penetrate at range.
** Extremely thin roof armour (10 mm on the turret and 5 mm on the engine deck). Strafing planes are deadly.
** Weak lower plate is only 50 mm, a major shot trap.
** Weak gun mantlet is only 60 mm flat armour
** Turret back is only 20 mm thick, vulnerable to HMG fire.
* Moving can be unpleasant
** Tracks have poor ground traction
** Hill climbing is hard
** Struggles reaching top speed
* Others
** Struggles when uptiered in matches.

== History ==

Development of the ARL-44 began shortly after the Liberation of France in 1944. The established provisional government was keen on restoring France’s influence and power to what it used to be before the war. This involved, among other things, the revival of all French military branches. The situation was looking particularly desperate for the army, as most indigenous equipment and tanks were manufactured in the 1930s and the most advanced in use at the time was equipment left behind by the Germans. The French Ministry of War decided to remedy this issue by starting the production of a so called “transitional tank”. This project was intended to bolster the number of indigenous tanks in use with the army, reuse existing tank parts and, most importantly, provide French engineers with a base on which they could “experiment” on to gain valuable experience for future tank development. Thus, in November 1944, the decision was made to design a heavy tank with relatively modest specifications. Staff from several design and manufacturing state companies were assigned to the project and work on what would become the ARL-44 began.

Initially, the new tank was required, apart from using existing tank parts, to have a weight of 30 tonnes, a top armour thickness of 60mm and a primary gun of the 75mm caliber. As the engineers were limited to using existing parts for their new machine, it very quickly became apparent that the amount of innovation that was possible for the new machine was equally limited. Thus, the ARL-44 soon took on the resemblance of a Char B1, with the exception of the turret and gun. The end of the war in 1945 didn’t stop development however, quite the opposite in fact. The design went through several changes, from increasing the armour thickness to the installation of a new engine and the new 90mm French cannon, despite the fact that there was no longer a for such a vehicle. At that point, the further development and subsequent limited production run of the ARL-44 was only used for “propaganda” purposes, with the aim of increasing the morale of the French people in the post-war period. In the end, only 60 ARL-44s were constructed and no sooner than they were introduced into service, they were also decommissioned due to, unsurprisingly, unsatisfactory performance, at the beginning of the 1950s. Despite this, the project did fulfill one of its major goals - generate experience for a new generation of French tank designers. Thanks to experiences gained from projects like the ARL-44, France would build its first true modern MBT only a decade later, serving as proof that the ARL-44 was not in vain after all.

''- From [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5205-development-arl-44-a-battleship-in-disguise-en Devblog]''

== Media ==
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== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5205-development-arl-44-a-battleship-in-disguise-en [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> ARL-44 - A Battleship in Disguise]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARL_44 Wikipedia]

{{France tank destroyers}}

Archer

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{{Specs-Card|code=uk_sp_17_pdr_valentine}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage Archer Front.jpg|x250px|thumb|left]] [[File:GarageImage Archer Rear.jpg|x230px|thumb|center]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (also known as the '''{{Specs|pseudonym}}''') is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} British tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was released along with the entire British tree line in [[Update_1.55_"Royal_Armour"|Update 1.55 "Royal Armour"]]. The Archer is a unique tank destroyer, as its gun faces the rear of the tank. The Archer can be good at both close combat- so long as you have somewhere to retreat to- and is also good at sniping. In a sense, you might consider the Archer to have two forward directions.

The Archer's armament is very good at this battle rating. The same cannon is even used on Rank III and IV tanks like the [[Challenger|A30 Challenger]] and the [[Sherman Firefly|Firefly]]. Its 9.0 second reload speed is not bad, but there are faster firing cannons at this rank such as both short and long German 75mm cannons, or the [[M4A1|M4A1's]] cannon. However, the Archer can instantly destroy many enemy tanks, and if it doesn't destroy them it will damage them. If the enemy is not destroyed and they can shoot you, retreat and reload. Once reloaded you can try to destroy the enemy tank, but if its aiming in your direction you can try sneaking up on it. The Archer does not have a turret, but its gun can traverse further left and right than most non-turreted tank destroyers, including the [[StuG III F]] and [[SU-122]]. While these tank destroyers have a higher battle rating than the Archer, you may still encounter them.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

'''Armour type:'''

* Rolled homogeneous armour

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 20 mm (32-33°) ''Front glacis'' 20 mm (27°) ''Lower glacis'' || 20 mm || 20 mm (23°), 14 mm (60°) ''Top'' 20 mm (0°), 14 mm (65°) ''Bottom'' || 10 mm
|-
| Superstructure || 20 mm (32-33°) ''Same as hull front'' || 20 mm (13-18°) || 20 mm (16-57°) ''Gun shield'' 100 mm ''Gun breech'' || N/A
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''

* "Front" of the vehicle is the direction the driver is facing.
* Suspension wheels, bogies, and tracks are 20 mm thick.
* Belly armour is 10 mm thick.
* A 9-12 mm RHA plate separate the crew compartment from the engine

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Add-on Armour weight (tons)
! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
| rowspan="2" | 16.3 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 35 (AB)
|-
|33 (RB/SB)
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|273
|336
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|170
|192
|-
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|16.75
|20.61
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|10.43
|11.78
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|Ordnance QF 17-pounder (76 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Ordnance QF 17-pounder (76 mm)|76 mm OQF 17-pounder]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 39 || -7°/+15° || ±22.3° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 1.5 || 2.1 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 1.5 || 1.8 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 7.4 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Shot Mk.6 || AP || 160 || 157 || 133 || 112 || 96 || 86
|-
| Shell Mk.1 || HE || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 ||
|-
| Shot Mk.4 || APC || 165 || 160 || 138 || 108 || 94 || 81
|-
| Shot Mk.8 || APCBC || 171 || 168 || 156 || 143 || 130 || 120
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Shot Mk.6 || AP || 883 || 7.7 || N/A || N/A || N/A || -1° || 47° || 60° || 65°
|-
| Shell Mk.1 || HE || 883 || 7.0 || 0.4 || 0.5 || 580 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Shot Mk.4 || APC || 883 || 7.7 || N/A || N/A || N/A || -1° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| Shot Mk.8 || APCBC || 883 || 7.7 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +4° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
'''Last updated: 1.77.2.149'''
[[File:Ammoracks_Archer.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the Archer.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''39''' || 30 ''(+9)'' || 20 ''(+19)'' || 10 ''(+29)'' || 1 ''(+38)'' || style="text-align:left" | No
|-
|}

Rear empty: 20 ''(+19)''

== Usage in the battles ==

You should use the true forward direction (Opposite of the gun) to travel from place to place as its reverse speed is low. You should travel in the direction of the gun when approaching an enemy or an area with combat taking place. Once you can shoot the enemy, fire a round at them and quickly go in the true forward direction to retreat. The same applies to when you're sniping, fire a shot and retreat. Again, the Archer can be played in both close combat and sniping, but be sure not to get too close.

The Archer has an open top, so you will need to be careful about machine guns and artillery. Its faster forward speed can allow you to escape from planes who are attacking you. You should also note that the Archer is faster than all three Valentines. While it is based on a Valentine, its reverse speed is about double the reverse speed of a Valentine, and its forward speed is about 9 km/h faster.

When ever facing tanks of any battle rating and rank, always be on alert and always have a back up plan as most tanks may be able to knock out the Archer in one shot. Do not worry, always play safely and stay at a reasonable distance from the cap circle or in an area which can be a chock point for the enemy team. Always make sure you are in an area where they have to face the tank from in the cannon's arc to always have a first shot opportunity and have the enemy back off from charging straight into the Archer's field of fire. If a plane or tank starts strafing the Archer, pull out and find a new location as that place is now compromised and a wary pilot or flanking enemy could put an end to the Archer's career.

===Modules===
As usual, it is recommended to research "Parts" first, particularly due to the vehicle's need to expose its engine to aim at an enemy. Engine damage is, of course, very crippling, and unfortunately a recurrent phenomenon for the Archer, and as such repairing it is priority whenever it occurs. After that, you should research the Horizontal Drive because the Archer's turret traverse speed is sluggish.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

*Ability to move faster in the opposite direction of the gun can allow for a quick retreat.
*The vehicle's cannon is good for its battle rating.
*The vehicle's horizontal cannon traverse traverse is wider than most turret-less tank destroyers.
*The direction configuration can confuse or surprise enemies.

'''Cons:'''

*It can be hard to master this vehicle as the gun does not face forward.
*Because the gun faces the rear of the vehicle, the enemy can shoot your engine and immobilise you when you engage.
*Only travels about 4 km/h backwards, which makes it hard to move in the direction of your gun.
*Very slow cannon traverse speed makes aiming at moving targets difficult.
*Heavy calibre fire, especially from 20mm's, will rip through armour at any angle, but the transmission within the firing arc can soak up shots.

== History ==

===Development===
The production of the 17-pounder anti-tank gun for British service gave the British military firepower capable of destroying the heavier German tanks, however the gun's heavy weight and bulkiness presented a mobility issue for the crew. An attempt to make a mobile version was done in 1942, first with the [[3 inch Gun Carrier]] as a self-propelled mount, then with the [[Achilles|M10 tank destroyer]] from the Americans which proved more successful. Another project done was to use obsolete tank chassis and convert them into mounts for use, like the [[Crusader Mk III|Crusader]] cruiser tanks and the [[Valentine Mk XI|Valentine]] infantry gun. The Valentine was chosen for further development as it was one of the more reliable tanks in British service and had the specifications needed to mount the gun. The modified Valentine, known as the '''Self Propelled 17pdr, Valentine, Mk.I, Archer''', was given a more powerful engine and a case mate superstructure on the front. The most distinctive feature of the Archer compared to any other tank destroyers in the war was that its gun is not facing forward, rather to the rear. This had a benefit of reducing the vehicle's length by making the gun stretch out over the rear hull of the vehicle, limiting the gun from extending over the vehicle. The rear gun mounting, despite its unorthodox method, allowed the Archer to become an excellent ambush weapon, by firing at targets with its gun and able to speed away forward at full speed rather than reverse. The first prototype of the Archer was made in 1943, trials were carried out in April 1943, which concluded favorable and was 800 was ordered from Vickers and accepted into service in October 1944. Vickers were able to complete 655 Archer tank destroyers from March 1943 to until the end of the war in May 1945.

===Combat usage===
The Archer was used in the Italian front and the European campaign against Germany. As a self-propelled gun, the Royal artillery had authority over the tank destroyer just like other tank destroyers in British service. Reception to the Archer proved that the crews favor the Archer over the M10 Achilles due to the better tactics the Archer presented by shooting then speeding away before the enemy could discover them. Though the drawbacks of the crew positions, open-topped superstructure, and limited gun traverse limited the Archer's capabilities, this was mitigated by its role as a tank destroyer and was used in World War II until the end.

Britain continued to use the Archer up until the 1950s. Once retired, some were sold to the Egyptian Army, to which they reported using it during the Suez Canal crisis in 1956. After that, no further action reports are known with the Archers.

== Media ==
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== Read also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''

* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

''ETC.''

== Sources ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archer_(tank_destroyer) Wikipedia]

{{Britain tank destroyers}}

AMX-50 Foch

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{{Specs-Card|code=fr_amx_50_foch}}
{{About
|about=tank destroyer '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
|usage=other uses
|link=AMX-50 (Family)
}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} French tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 180mm (55°) ''Front glacis'' 100 mm (60°) ''Lower glacis'' 180-300 (0-72°) + 180 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 40 mm (15°) ''Top'' 40 mm ''Bottom'' || 40 mm ''Top'' 40 mm (40°) ''Bottom'' || 30 mm ''Fighting compartment'' 20 mm ''Engine deck'' 90 mm ''Gun mantlet''
|-
! Armour !! Sides !! Roof
|-
| Cupola || 200 mm ''Front'' 30 mm ''Everywhere else'' || 30 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''
* Suspension wheels and tracks are both 20 mm thick.
* Road wheels are interleaved and provide cumulative protection for the lower side hull.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
!colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Add-on Armor weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
|rowspan="2" | 58.0 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 54 (AB)
|-
|50 (RB/SB)
|-
!colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|1,420
|___
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|884
|___
|-
!colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|24.48
|__.__
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|15.24
|__.__
|-
|}

=== Main armament ===

{{main|SA46 (120 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[SA46 (120 mm)|120 mm SA46]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 48 || -6°/+16° || ±9° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 19.4 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| 120 mm Obus de rupture || AP || 303 || 302 || 286 || 267 || 251 || 235
|-
| 120 mm Obus explosif || HE || 39 || 39 || 39 || 39 || 39 || 39
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| 120 mm Obus de rupture || AP || 1,067 || 23 || N/A || N/A || N/A || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| 120 mm Obus explosif || HE || 762 || 23 || 0.1 || 0.1 || 4,650 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_AMX-50_Foch.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the AMX-50 Foch.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''48''' || 43 ''(+5)'' || 31 ''(+17)'' || 19 ''(+29)'' || 5 ''(+43)'' || 1 ''(+47)'' || style="text-align:left" | yes
|-
|}

Right side empty: 19 (+29)

=== Machine guns ===

{{main|MG 151/15 (15 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | [[MG 151/15 (15 mm)|15 mm MG151/15]]
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Loader's cupola mount''
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 500 (500) || 700 || -3°/+20° || -35°/+160°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Very powerful 120mm gun; can even penetrate the Maus at some points.
* Reasonably fast.
* Has an MG-151 for a coaxial weapon.
* Great armor on the front slope plate (upper glacis).
* Immense spalling from the AP shells; head-on insta-kills are very likely.
* Good mobility.
* Rangefinder logs range very quickly

'''Cons:'''

* No turret; vulnerable to getting flanked.
* Longer reload than the AMX-50 Surbaisse.
* Limited ammo choices.
* AP shells will have a hard time killing some opponents from the side.
* Very thin side armour

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== Encyclopedia Info ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

[https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=france&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=fr_amx_50_foch '''Skins''' and '''camouflages''' for the AMX-50 Foch from live.warthunder.com.]

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5292-vehicle-amx-50-foch-racing-tortoise-en [Vehicles<nowiki>]</nowiki> AMX-50 Foch: Racing Tortoise]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-50#AMX_50_%22120_mm%22 Wikipedia]

{{France tank destroyers}}

AMX-10RC

2019-04-04T13:13:08Z

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{{Specs-Card|code=fr_amx_10rc}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage {{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{Break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} French tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat?''

''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.''

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===
''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

=== Additional armament ===
''Some tanks are armed with several guns in one or more turrets. Evaluate the additional weaponry and give advice on its use. Describe the ammunition available for additional weaponry. Give advice on about how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage. If there is no additional weaponry remove this subsection.''

=== Machine guns ===
''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

===Modules===
{| class="wikitable"
! Tier
! colspan="2"|Mobility
! Protection
! colspan="2"|Firepower
|-
| I
| Tires||
| Parts
| Horizontal Drive||O-FUM-PH-105 F3
|-
| II
| Suspension||Brake System
| FPE
| Adjustment of Fire||OFL 105 F3
|-
| III
| Filters||
| Crew Replenishment
| Elevation Mechanism||Smoke grenade
|-
| IV
| Transmission||Engine
|
| Artillery Support||Laser rangefinder
|-
|}

===Pros and cons===

'''Pros:'''

* 105mm gun is on par with the tanks at its rank.
* Good top speed; great for scouting the enemy team.

'''Cons:'''

* Thin armor, as with all armored cars.

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== Encyclopedia Info ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=france&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=fr_amx_10rc AMX-10RC] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-10_RC Wikipedia]

{{France tank destroyers}}

AMR.35 ZT3

2019-04-04T13:11:15Z

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{{Specs-Card|code=fr_amr_35_zt3}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{specs|name}}''' (Recon Machinegun-car AMR 35 ZT3) is a Rank {{specs|rank}} French tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. Featuring a quick firing "stabilized" 25 mm gun, good mobility and bulletproof armour, it differs greatly from other rank 1 French tanks while offering similar gameplay to the Russian [[ASU-57]]. It is arguably the best first French tank to research.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===


With only 13 mm all-around, this is not a frontline tank and it should fear artillery barrages. Bombs should be feared as well. Distance is your main defense since most rank 1 guns are inaccurate, often missing such a small target. Any penetrating shot from another tank can easily one-shot this tank.

'''Armour type:'''
* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Cast homogeneous armour (Cupola)
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 5-6 mm (75°), 13 mm (18°) ''Front glacis'' 13 mm (37°) ''Lower glacis'' || 13 mm || 10 mm (24-33°) ''Top'' 10 mm (32°) ''Bottom'' || 6 mm 5 mm ''Engine grille''
|-
| Superstructure || 13 + 20 mm ''Gun mantlet'' 13 mm (17°) ''Driver’s hatch'' || 13 mm (0-30°) || 10 mm || 6 mm 5 mm ''Engine grille''
|-
! Armour !! Sides !! Roof
|-
| Cupola || 13 mm || 13 mm
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''
* Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick while tracks are 15 mm thick.

=== Mobility ===


This light chassis can be carried wherever it is needed in no time. It is quite fast and manœuvrable but looses a good amount of speed when going off-road due to narrow tracks.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
!colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Add-on Armour weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
|rowspan="2" | 6.5 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 65 (AB)
|-
|60 (RB/SB)
|-
!colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|116
|___
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|73
|82
|-
!colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|17.85
|__.__
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|11.23
|12.61
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|SA34 L/72 (25 mm)}}

The 25 mm SA 34 L/72 cannon is a breath of fresh air among its likes: it has decent penetration values and a 3.9 s reload time. Its good ballistic properties (flat trajectory) makes it easy to aim at usual combat ranges (~500 m). This gun comes with an enjoyable feature: it has a LOCK, which is a primitive form of stabilizer. It enables this tank to reliably shoot on the move in middle to far range (100 to 500 m). Or else, one can stop and shoot faster than other rank 1 tanks. The MAC 31 is a decent coaxial MG.

The main downside this gun platform has is its limited gun traverse, which makes close-range engagements very hard.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[SA34 L/72 (25 mm)|25 mm SA34 L/72]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 78 || -10°/+13° || ±5° || Vertical
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 17.61 || 24.38 || __.__ || __.__ || 34.82
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 11.90 || 14.00 || __.__ || __.__ || 20.00
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 3.90 || __.__ || __.__ || 3.00
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Mle1934 TP (Ch.F) || APC || 63 || 61 || 50 || 39 || 30 || 24
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Mle1934 TP (Ch.F) || APC || 950 || 0.31 || N/A || N/A || N/A || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks {{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''78''' || 55 ''(+23)'' || 31 ''(+47)'' || 1 ''(+77)'' || style="text-align:left" | no
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===

{{main|MAC 31 (7.5 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | [[MAC 31 (7.5 mm)|7.5 mm MAC 31]]
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Coaxial mount''
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 3,200 (150) || 1,350 || N/A || N/A
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==


This is a good introduction to a typical tank destroyer's gameplay: a good gun on a fragile chassis and even more. With its low silhouette, the AMR can completely hide itself behind a wide variety of terrain features: wrecked tanks hulls, shallow hills, rocks, brick walls... Staying away from the fight and sniping for unsuspecting enemies. When spotted, choosing to reverse back into cover is a good decision.

'''Classical TD:'''

Hiding behind terrain and obstacles, using its good gun depression while staying at some distance from the target is the best way to use this TD in most situations. Applies well on any non-urban terrain.

'''Ninja:'''

This is a ''very situational'' way to play the AMR, mostly efficient in RB and SB games but still applicable to AB matches. This tactics relies on this tank's low silhouette: it can easily hide behind almost anything. Use this tactic to sneak onto an enemy's back or to lure the enemy team into a trap (needs a complying ally). Being a ''ninja AMR'' applies well to urban combat.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''
* The AMR.35 ZT3 is fast for French tanks of its rank.
* The 25 mm gun, though small, hits hard and the standard round has good post-penetration effects.
* Gun is quite stable on the move
* Decent -10° of gun depression.
* Almost safe from strafing fighter planes.
* Competitive reload time
* Low silhouette
* Crew are not lined-up from the front
* MAC 31 coaxial MG
* Asymmetric gun position allow for original gameplay
* Good gun ballistics
'''Cons:'''
* Two crew means that '''any''' hit to the crew compartment could send you back to the hangar.
* Gun traverse is fairly limited, even by casemate TD standards.
* Anything bigger than MG fire will shred this TD
* Narrow tracks offer poor off-road mobility
* Big cupola makes a good target
* Only one ammo choice
* Side armour is actually thicker than frontal armour

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== Encyclopedia Info ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=france&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=fr_amr_35_zt3 AMR.35 ZT3] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMR_35#ZT_3 Wikipedia]

{{France tank destroyers}}

Achilles (65 Rg.)

2019-04-04T13:09:17Z

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{{Specs-Card|code=uk_17_pdr_m10_achilles_norfolk_yeomanry}}
{{Notice|''This page is about the tank destroyer '''{{PAGENAME}}'''. For the standard version, see [[Achilles]]''}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage Achilles65th.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (shortened to '''{{specs|pseudonym}}''', full name '''17 pounder, Self-Propelled M10 Achilles (65th Anti-Tank Regiment)''') is a premium Rank III British tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.53 "Firestorm"]] and is one of the first British tanks introduced in the game. It is an Achilles tank destroyer with insignia of 7th Armored Division, 65th Anti-Tank Regiment "Norfolk Yeomanry".

The [[Achilles|Achilles]] is based on the American [[M10 GMC|M10]], but carries [[Ordnance QF 17-pounder (76 mm)|17-pounder]] as the main armament, making it an effective tank destroyer. Thanks to a well assigned BR, the Achilles won't feel in the wrong game even when facing higher rank tanks. For a Battle Rating 4.0, the Achilles has plenty of firepower, especially once the Mk.8 APCBC shot module is unlocked, which is more effective against the [[T-34 (1942)|T-34]] sloped armour. The 17-pdr literally cuts through enemy [[Pz.III M|Panzer III]] and [[Pz.IV H|IV]] (the shots enter the front and exit from the rear) so try to aim vital points to cause the maximum damage (first shot to the turret to disable enemy firepower). The T-34 is a bigger problem due to its sloped armour. When facing Russian tanks, the first shot should be always to the gunner. The Mk.8 APCBC is quite able to penetrate the T-34 glacis even from distance but keep in mind that the damage caused is unreliable (sometimes two or more shots are required to destroy a T-34, sometimes one shot is enough). The M10 mobility is not outstanding, but the Achilles is pretty capable to carry the player, the gun, and the team to where it needs to go.

Protection is not good. The sloped armour and the track links added to the front will protect the Achilles from some low calibre shots but the vast majority of the enemies will be able to easily destroy the Achilles. Side armour is paper thin. The high profile and the very slow turret traverse (man powered) are not good for close range combat so avoid deep flanking tactics.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

'''Armour type:'''
* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Transmission area)
* Structural steel (Counterweight)
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 38.1 mm (55°) ''Front glacis'' 50.8 mm (7-55°) ''Transmission area'' || 19.05 mm (38°) ''Top hull'' 25.4 mm ''Bottom hull''|| 19.05 (28-33°) ''Top Hull'' 25.4 mm (7-52°) ''Bottom hull'' || 19.05 mm ''Front'' 9.5 mm ''Rear''
|-
| Turret || 25.4 mm (66-88°) ''Turret front'' 57.15 mm (0-47°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 25.4 mm (22-46°) || 25.4 mm (1-29°) ''Turret rear'' 50 mm (0-50°) ''Counterweight'' || N/A
|}
'''Notes:'''
* Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick while the bogies are 10 mm thick.
* Belly armour is 12.7 mm thick.
* Hull rear sides are protected by attached grousers that gives 20 mm of extra armour.
* Tracks placed on the front transmission area provide 30 mm extra armour.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
!colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Add-on Armor weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
|rowspan="2" | 29.6 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | 0.3 || colspan="1" | 45 (AB)
|-
|41 (RB/SB)
|-
!colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|587
|717
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|363
|410
|-
!colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|19.66
|24.22
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|12.26
|13.85
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|Ordnance QF 17-pounder (76 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Ordnance QF 17-pounder (76 mm)|76 mm OQF 17-pounder]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 50 || -10°/+30° || ±180° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 3.96 || 5.48 || __.__ || __.__ || 7.84
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 2.68 || 3.15 || __.__ || __.__ || 4.50
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 8.71 || __.__ || __.__ || 6.7
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Shot Mk.6 || AP || 170 || 168 || 154 || 139 || 125 || 113
|-
| Shell Mk.1 || HE || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9
|-
| Shot Mk.4 || APC || 170 || 168 || 154 || 139 || 125 || 113
|-
| Shot Mk.8 || APCBC || 189 || 186 || 174 || 154 || 139 || 126
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Shot Mk.6 || AP || 883 || 7.71 || N/A || N/A || N/A || -1° || 47° || 60° || 65°
|-
| Shell Mk.1 || HE || 883 || 6.98 || 0.4 || 0.5 || 580 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Shot Mk.4 || APC || 883 || 7.71 || N/A || N/A || N/A || -1° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| Shot Mk.8 || APCBC || 883 || 7.71 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +4° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="7" | Smoke characteristic
|-
! Ammunition
! Velocity in m/s
! Projectile Mass in kg
! ''Screen radius in m''
! ''Screen time in s''
! ''Screen hold time in s:''
! ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
|-
| 17pdr Shell SS Mk.1 || 754 || 8.44 || 13 || 5 || 20 || 50
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_Achilles.png|right|thumbnail|[[Ammo racks|Ammo rack]] of the Achilles|300px]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |6th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''50''' || 48 ''(+2)'' || 45 ''(+5)'' || 34 ''(+16)'' || 23 ''(+27)'' || 12 ''(+38)'' || 1 ''(+49)'' || style="text-align:center" | Yes
|-
|}

Turret empty: 45 ''(+5)''

=== Machine guns ===

{{main|Browning M2HB (12.7 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | [[Browning M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Pintle mount''
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 300 (200) || 577 || -10°/+70° || ±60°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The Achilles is best used for sniping and for shoot and scoot tactics. Find a good spot where to shoot at enemies, aim carefully (RB need a good use of mils range estimation) and enjoy the fireworks!

Keep in mind the low fire rate (compared to other 17-pdr AFVs). Once the Achilles has destroyed (or damaged) the enemy the best thing to do is to relocate. Don't stay in the same spot for too long: the Achilles has weak armour and open top. Artillery barrages will cripple the Achilles or the crew.

Another thing to think about is the turret traverse. Yes... It is **really** slow. Therefore, some changes need to be made in the typical play style. If the Achilles need to target an enemy quickly, do not rely on the turret. Instead, traverse the entire tank so that the hull is facing the enemy head on, similar to turretless, casemate style tank destroyers. To avoid situations like this, stay way back, avoiding urban areas and other areas where the Achilles will be flanked easily.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''
* Good gun (17-pounder!)
* High level of penetration. Will often pass through the front of lighter vehicles and leave through the back.
* Premium vehicle - instant access to the best shell (Shot Mk.8)
* Good speed
* 5 crew members
* .50 cal Heavy machine gun on top to fight lightly armoured tanks and aircraft
* Sloped armour makes incoming rounds more likely to ricochet
* Spare tracks that provided some limited protection on the front and on the rear section of the side armour.
* Good gun depression
'''Cons:'''
* Armour is rather thin
* Big ammo racks
* Open top turret makes it vulnerable to artillery and strafing planes
* Very slow turret traverse
* Lack of explosive filler for AP shells
* Handling is poor on some rough terrain before mobility modifications are researched
* Reverse speed is bad
* Low ammo reserve for Commander's machine gun (300 rds total)

== History ==

===Development===
The [[M10 GMC|M10 tank destroyer]] was developed in 1942 to fulfill the anti-tank doctrine established by the US military. The doctrine, creating the tank destroyer force, was established with the objective to stop German blitzkrieg tactics by attacking the tanks. Unlike the other armoured fighting vehicles in the theater, the tank destroyers were made to be placed in reserves to counter any breach in the front lines by taking out the enemy with ambushes. This role led to the desire for a fast vehicle with a powerful gun, armour was not a concern due to the emphasis in speed. The design ended up taking a turret design developed from the [[M6A1|M6A1 Heavy Tank]] and the body from the [[M4A2| M4A2 Sherman]], this with the 3-inch 1918 gun, provided the backbone of the American tank destroyer force in much of World War II. In total, 6,706 M10s and its variants were produced between September of 1942 to 1943 of the same month.

===British Use===
These M10s were given out to America’s allies, though the British were the most well-known of these users, receiving about 1,650 M10s from the Americans from 1943 onward. The British designated the M10s under their service as the '''Achilles''' and unlike popular usage, was called that for both the 3-inch gun variant (''Achillies I/II'') and the variant mounting the 17-pounder (''Achillies Ic / IIc''). Though in most usage, the vehicle was called the ''17pdr M10'', or ''17pdr SP M10'', or even the ''"Firefly"'', despite that name being used for a different design.

The British first received the M10s with the 3-inch cannons, which were much more powerful than the British tank armament at the time, giving them an edge in many tank confrontations in the North African Campaign. It was around 1943 that a conversion is done onto the M10 to increase its firepower capabilities against the gradually upgraded German tank designs such as the [[Tiger H1|Tiger I]] and the [[Panther D|Panthers]]. The conversion used one of the best Allied anti-tank guns at the time, the 17-pounder, which could penetrate about 140 mm of armour at 500 meters away with APCBC rounds, and 209 mm at the same distance with APDS rounds (Armour-Penetrating Discarding Sabot). The conversion done onto the M10 also required a counterweight to be placed on the 17-pounder to compensate the heavier weight of the 17-pounder compared to the 3-inch gun. This gave the M10 Achilles a much more defining profile and attempts were made to hide this larger cannon length with optical illusion. Aside from the gun conversion, the M10 Achilles also had an extra 17 mm of armour welded onto the front and sides of the hull for added protection, plus a 20 mm shield on the top of the turret to compensate for the open-turret design. About 1,000 M10 Achilles with the 17-pounders were ordered, but by D-Day, only 124 were available and 816 were done by the end of the year. The low number of these converted Achilles made meant that any lost units were hard to replace with a 17-pounder one, and the disgruntled crew would be issued a M10 with a 3-inch gun instead. In the end, about a total of 1,000 Achilles were converted into 17-pounder ones by the end of World War II, making the M10 Achillies the second-most numerous design to mount the 17-pounder, coming before the [[Sherman Firefly|Sherman Firefly]].

The Achilles were issued out as part of the Royal Artillery in armoured divisions in anti-tank regiments. One of such regiments was the '''65th Anti-Tank Regiment''' assigned to the 7th Armoured division during 1942 and onward until the end of the war.

===Combat Usage===
The British doctrine with the Achilles differed from the Americans who saw it as a reserve tank destroyer, the British viewed it as a mobile anti-tank gun, thus the Achilles served in a role akin to the [[StuG III G|StuG III]] in German service, moving the 17-pounder into position to take a shot on incoming German [[Tiger E|Tiger]] or [[Panther G|Panther]] tanks. These Achilles were used more with Churchill tank units rather than the medium tanks due to the lack of 17-pounder equipped on [[Churchill Mk III|Churchills]] while the medium tanks have the Firefly available for use. Disadvantages with the M10 Achilles design were carried over from the original, the slow turret traverse speed, high profile, and open-top turret made it a rather harder vehicle to use than a regular tank, but it still had it advantages and was still suitable for the role it had.

The Achilles were deployed on D-Day onward in artillery forces in anti-tank regiments in armoured divisions. A typical anti-tank regiment would have four batteries, two with towed 17-pounders, one equipped with 17-pounder Achilles, and another with regular M10s with the 3-inch gun (though replaced with another Achilles unit once more were available). A notable event with the Achilles was during Operation Charnwood, where Achilles in the 62nd Anti-Tank Regiment fought off a German counterattack comprising of [[Pz.IV H|Panzer IVs]] and [[Panther G|Panthers]] from the 12th Panzer Regiment were routed by the Achilles 17-pounder fires, destroying about 13 German tanks with the loss of four Achilles knocked out and four more damaged.

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=britain&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=uk_17_pdr_m10_achilles_norfolk_yeomanry Achilles (65 Rg.)] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==

* [[Achilles]] - Normal tech tree version.

== External links ==

* [https://warthunder.com/en/devblog/current/827/ [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> Pioneering British Tanks in War Thunder with developer's answers] 
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17pdr_SP_Achilles Wikipedia]

{{Britain tank destroyers}}
{{Britain premium ground vehicles}}

Achilles

2019-04-04T13:05:44Z

U177059: Wikipedia link added / Link to Skins in WT Live

{{Specs-Card|code=uk_17_pdr_m10_achilles}}
{{Notice|''This page is about the tank destroyer '''{{PAGENAME}}'''. For the premium version, see [[Achilles (65 Rg.)]]''}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_Achilles.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{specs|name}}''' (nickname '''{{specs|pseudonym}}''') is a Rank {{specs|rank}} British tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.55 "Royal Armour"]] along with the rest of the British Ground Forces Tree.

The Achilles is based on the American [[M10 GMC|M10]], but carries [[Ordnance QF 17-pounder (76 mm)|17-pounder]] as the main armament, making it an effective tank destroyer. Thanks to a well assigned BR, the Achilles won't feel in the wrong game even when facing higher rank tanks. For a Battle Rating 4.0, the Achilles a plenty of firepower, especially once the Mk.8 APCBC shot modules is unlocked, which is more effective against the [[T-34 (1942)|T-34]] sloped armour. The 17-pdr literally cuts through enemy [[Pz.III M|Panzer III]] and [[Pz.IV H|IV]] (the shots enter the front and exit from the rear) so try to aim vital points to cause the maximum damage (first shot to the turret to disable enemy firepower). The T-34 is a bigger problem due to its sloped armour. When facing Russians, the first shot should be always to the gunner. The Mk.8 APCBC is quite able to penetrate the T-34 glacis even from distance but keep in mind that the damage the 17-pdr will cause is unreliable (sometimes 2 or more shots are required to destroy a T-34, sometimes one shot is enough). The M10 mobility is not outstanding but the Achilles is pretty capable to carry the player, gun, and event team where it needs to go.

Protection is not good. The sloped armour and the track links added to the front will protect the Achilles from some low calibre shots, but the vast majority of enemies will be able to easily destroy the Achilles. Side armour is paper thin. The high profile and the very slow turret traverse (man powered) are not good for close range combat so avoid deep flanking tactics.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

'''Armour type:'''
* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Transmission area)
* Structural steel (Counterweight)
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 38.1 mm (55°) ''Front glacis'' 50.8 mm (7-55°) ''Transmission area'' || 19.05 mm (38°) ''Top hull'' 25.4 mm ''Bottom hull''|| 19.05 (28-33°) ''Top Hull'' 25.4 mm (7-52°) ''Bottom hull'' || 19.05 mm ''Front'' 9.5 mm ''Rear''
|-
| Turret || 25.4 mm (66-88°) ''Turret front'' 57.15 mm (0-47°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 25.4 mm (22-46°) || 25.4 mm (0-29°) ''Turret rear'' 50 mm (0-50°) ''Counterweight'' || N/A
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''
* Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick while the bogies are 10 mm thick.
* Belly armour is 12.7 mm thick.
* Hull rear sides are protected by attached grousers that gives 20 mm of extra armour.
* Tracks placed on the front transmission area provide 30 mm extra armour.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
!colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Add-on Armour weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
|rowspan="2" | 29.6 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 45 (AB)
|-
|41 (RB/SB)
|-
!colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|582
|717
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|363
|410
|-
!colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|19.66
|24.22
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|12.26
|13.85
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|Ordnance QF 17-pounder (76 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Ordnance QF 17-pounder (76 mm)|76 mm OQF 17-pounder]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 50 || -10°/+30° || ±180° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 3.96 || 5.48 || __.__ || __.__ || 7.84
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 2.68 || 3.15 || __.__ || __.__ || 4.50
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 8.71 || __.__ || __.__ || 6.7
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Shot Mk.6 || AP || 170 || 168 || 154 || 139 || 125 || 113
|-
| Shell Mk.1 || HE || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9
|-
| Shot Mk.4 || APC || 170 || 168 || 154 || 139 || 125 || 113
|-
| Shot Mk.8 || APCBC || 189 || 186 || 174 || 154 || 139 || 126
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Shot Mk.6 || AP || 883 || 7.71 || N/A || N/A || N/A || -1° || 47° || 60° || 65°
|-
| Shell Mk.1 || HE || 883 || 6.98 || 0.4 || 0.5 || 580 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Shot Mk.4 || APC || 883 || 7.71 || N/A || N/A || N/A || -1° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| Shot Mk.8 || APCBC || 883 || 7.71 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +4° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="7" | Smoke characteristic
|-
! Ammunition
! Velocity in m/s
! Projectile Mass in kg
! ''Screen radius in m''
! ''Screen time in s''
! ''Screen hold time in s:''
! ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
|-
| 17pdr Shell SS Mk.1 || 754 || 8.44 || 13 || 5 || 20 || 50
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_Achilles.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo rack]] of the Achilles.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |6th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''50''' || 48 ''(+2)'' || 45 ''(+5)'' || 34 ''(+16)'' || 23 ''(+27)'' || 12 ''(+38)'' || 1 ''(+49)'' || style="text-align:center" | Yes
|-
|}

Turret empty: 45 ''(+5)''

=== Machine guns ===

{{main|Browning M2HB (12.7 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | [[Browning M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Pintle mount''
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 300 (200) || 577 || -10°/+70° || ±60°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The Achilles is best used for sniping and for shoot and scoot tactics. Find a good spot where to shoot at enemies, aim carefully (RB need a good use of mils range estimation) and enjoy the fireworks!

Keep in mind the low fire rate (compared to other 17-pdr AFVs). Once the Achilles have destroyed (or damaged) the enemy, the best thing to do is to relocate. Don't stay in the same spot for too long: the Achilles has weak armour and open top. Artillery barrages will cripple the tank destroyer and the crew.

Another thing to think about is the turret traverse. Yes... It is ''really'' slow. Therefore, changes to the play style must be taken. If an enemy needs to be targeted quickly, do not rely on the turret. Instead, traverse the entire tank so that the hull is facing the enemy head on, similar to turretless, casemate style tank destroyers. To avoid situations like this, stay way back, avoiding urban areas and other areas where the Achilles will be flanked easily.

The Achilles performs very well on large maps with plenty of vegetation or terrain variations to hide in. On maps like this, the Achilles can find a good hiding place and wait for enemy tanks to drive into the sights. Even the most heavily armoured tanks in the BR range cannot withstand the APCBC round. It is this tanks most redeeming factor. A well positioned Achilles can deal heavy damage to an opposing team, and can even hold out an entire section of the map if it is protected from air support and can get the jump on attacking enemies. Remember to change position regularly as the Achilles will become easy prey for enemy aircraft if the position is compromised.

Also, remember to use the .50 cal. It can disorientate enemy tanks and potentially give a few extra seconds breathing room in a bad situation. It is also useful against SPAA and low flying aircraft. Be aware that if the commander is knocked out, access to the .50 cal will be lost.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''
* Good gun (17-pounder!)
* High level of penetration. Will often pass through the front of lighter vehicles and leave through the back.
* Good speed
* 5 crew members
* .50 cal Heavy machine gun on top to fight lightly armoured tanks and aircraft
* Sloped armour makes incoming rounds more likely to ricochet
* Spare tracks that provided some limited protection on the front and on the rear section of the side armour.
* Good gun depression
'''Cons:'''
* Armour is rather thin
* Big ammo racks
* Open top turret makes it vulnerable to artillery and strafing planes
* Very slow turret traverse
* Will have trouble penetrating some sloped armour before the Shot Mk.8 is purchased
* Lack of explosive filler for AP shells
* Handling is poor on some rough terrain before mobility modifications are researched
* Reverse speed is bad
* Low ammo reserve for Commander's machine gun (300 rds total)

== History ==

===Development===
The [[M10 GMC|M10 tank destroyer]] was developed in 1942 to fulfill the anti-tank doctrine established by the US military. The doctrine, creating the tank destroyer force, was established with the objective to stop German blitzkrieg tactics by attacking the tanks. Unlike the other armoured fighting vehicles in the theater, the tank destroyers were made to be placed in reserves to counter any breach in the front lines by taking out the enemy with ambushes. This role led to the desire for a fast vehicle with a powerful gun, armour was not a concern due to the emphasis in speed. The design ended up taking a turret design developed from the [[M6A1|M6A1 Heavy Tank]] and the body from the [[M4A2|M4A2 Sherman]], this with the 3-inch 1918 gun, provided the backbone of the American tank destroyer force in much of World War II. In total, 6,706 M10s and its variants were produced between September of 1942 to 1943 of the same month.

===British use===
These M10s were given out to America’s allies, though the British were the most well-known of these users, receiving about 1,650 M10s from the Americans from 1943 onward. The British designated the M10s under their service as the '''Achilles''' and unlike popular usage, was called that for both the 3-inch gun variant (''Achillies I/II'') and the variant mounting the 17-pounder (''Achillies Ic / IIc''). Though in most usage, the vehicle was called the ''17pdr M10'', or ''17pdr SP M10'', or even the ''“Firefly”'', despite that name being used for a different design.

The British first received the M10s with the 3-inch cannons, which were much more powerful than the British tank armament at the time, giving them an edge in many tank confrontations in the North African Campaign. It was around 1943 that a conversion is done onto the M10 to increase its firepower capabilities against the gradually upgraded German tank designs such as the [[Tiger H1|Tiger I]] and the [[Panther D|Panthers]]. The conversion used one of the best Allied anti-tank guns at the time, the 17-pounder, which could penetrate about 140 mm of armour at 500 meters away with APCBC rounds, and 209 mm at the same distance with APDS rounds (Armour-Penetrating Discarding Sabot). The conversion done onto the M10 also required a counterweight to be placed on the 17-pounder to compensate the heavier weight of the 17-pounder compared to the 3-inch gun. This gave the M10 Achilles a much more defining profile and attempts were made to hide this larger cannon length with optical illusion. Aside from the gun conversion, the M10 Achilles also had an extra 17 mm of armour welded onto the front and sides of the hull for added protection, plus a 20 mm shield on the top of the turret to compensate for the open-turret design. About 1,000 M10 Achilles with the 17-pounders were ordered, but by D-Day, only 124 were available and 816 were done by the end of the year. The low number of these converted Achilles made meant that any lost units were hard to replace with a 17-pounder one, and the disgruntled crew would be issued a M10 with a 3-inch gun instead. In the end, about a total of 1,000 Achilles were converted into 17-pounder ones by the end of World War II, making the M10 Achillies the second-most numerous design to mount the 17-pounder, coming before the [[Sherman Firefly|Sherman Firefly]].

===Combat usage===
The British doctrine with the Achilles differed from the Americans who saw it as a reserve tank destroyer, the British viewed it as a mobile anti-tank gun, thus the Achilles served in a role akin to the [[StuG III G|StuG III]] in German service, moving the 17-pounder into position to take a shot on incoming German [[Tiger E|Tiger]] or [[Panther G|Panther]] tanks. These Achilles were used more with Churchill tank units rather than the medium tanks due to the lack of 17-pounder equipped on [[Churchill Mk III|Churchills]] while the medium tanks have the Firefly available for use. Disadvantages with the M10 Achilles design were carried over from the original, the slow turret traverse speed, high profile, and open-top turret made it a rather harder vehicle to use than a regular tank, but it still had it advantages and was still suitable for the role it had.

The Achilles were deployed on D-Day onward in artillery forces in anti-tank regiments in armoured divisions. A typical anti-tank regiment would have four batteries, two with towed 17-pounders, one equipped with 17-pounder Achilles, and another with regular M10s with the 3-inch gun (though replaced with another Achilles unit once more were available). A notable event with the Achilles was during Operation Charnwood, where Achilles in the 62nd Anti-Tank Regiment fought off a German counterattack comprising of [[Pz.IV H|Panzer IVs]] and Panthers from the 12th Panzer Regiment were routed by the Achilles 17-pounder fires, destroying about 13 German tanks with the loss of four Achilles knocked out and four more damaged.

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=britain&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=uk_17_pdr_m10_achilles Achilles] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==

* [[Achilles (65 Rg.)]] - Gift version, representing the 65th Anti-Tank Regiment.
* [[M10 GMC]] - Original American configuration of the M10 platform.

== External links ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17pdr_SP_Achilles Wikipedia]

{{Britain tank destroyers}}

90/53 M41M

2019-04-03T09:45:05Z

U177059: Wikipedia link added

{{Specs-Card|code=it_semovente_m41m_90}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage 90 53 M41M.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (shortened as '''{{Specs|pseudonym}}''') is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

Armour is not great, but the gun shield protects from .50 cal fire from the front and the very sloped hull armor can bounce shots. The back is very vulnerable as your crew can be knocked out by anything and the ammo is also stored there. One artillery shell behind you can one shot the 90/53.

=== Mobility ===

The Mobility is good on flat terrain and even on some slopes, about the same as other Italian tanks on the same chassis. Due to the 90° horizontal fire angle, the 90/53 can drive diagonally while aiming.

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|90/53 mod.41 (90 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[90/53 mod.41 (90 mm)|90 mm 90/53 mod.41]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 8 || -5°/+19° || ±45° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 9.7 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 6.5 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Granata Perforante da 90 || APCBC || 131 || 130 || 120 || 110 || 100 || 91
|-
| Granata da 90 || HE || 13 || 13 || 13 || 13 || 13 || 13
|-
| Granata Perforante mod.43 || APCBC || 158 || 156 || 146 || 134 || 123 || 114
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Granata Perforante da 90 || APCBC || 758 || 12 || 0.8 || 28 || 520 || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| Granata da 90 || HE || 850 || 10 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 1 || ° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Granata Perforante mod.43 || APCBC || 773 || 11 || 0.8 || 28 || 180 || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* Wide traverse angle
* Exceptionally lethal APHE shells with outstanding penetration
* Acceptable reloading time

'''Cons:'''

* Poor gun depression
* Extremely poor ammunition capacity (8 rounds)
* Poor armour & exposed crewmembers in the turret
* Poor dispersion, especially without upgrades
* Mediocre mobility

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''

== Media ==

[https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=it_semovente_m41m_90 '''Skins''' and '''camouflages''' for the 90/53 M41M from live.warthunder.com.]

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semovente_da_90/53 Wikipedia]

{{Italy tank destroyers}}

8,8 cm Flak 37 Sfl.

2019-04-03T09:31:37Z

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{{Specs-Card|code=germ_sdkfz_9_flak37}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_8,8cmFlak37Sfl.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''8,8cm Flak 37 Selbstfahrlafette auf 18 ton Zugkraftwagen''' is a Rank II German tank destroyer with a battle rating 4.3 (AB), 4.0 (RB), and 3.7 (SB). It was introduced in [[Update_1.63_"Desert_Hunters"|Update 1.63 "Desert Hunters"]]. It features the famous 8.8 cm FlaK 37 cannon on a half-track mount, presenting heavy firepower at the cost of armour and even mobility due to its heavy weight.

The vehicle is affectionately nicknamed as the:
* 'Flak-Bus'
* 'Flak-Track'

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Half-track || 10 mm ''Grille'' 8 mm (85-86°) ''Front hood'' 14.5 mm (50°) ''Driver View'' || 14.5 mm || 14.5 mm || 14.5 mm
|-
| Gun shield || 14.5 mm (17-41°) || 10 mm (14°) || N/A || N/A
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''
* Tracks are 10 mm thick while suspension wheels are 15 mm thick.

If encountered in combat, attacking players can attempt to dispatch it at longer ranges. At slightly higher Battle-Ratings it is extremely unlikely that a player will use this vehicle to lead in the front line, but if he/she does, it can usually be easily dispatched from a concealed position. When the enemy is sniping, it is a difficult vehicle to destroy in a map with uneven and hilly terrain like Kuban where plentiful cover allows it to hide easily, but can be destroyed more easily on congested and more urban maps like Advance to the Rhine as there is increased difficulty for long ranged combat due to abundances of buildings and walls to use as cover for both sides.

Due to limited gun vertical traverse, smaller vehicles with lower chassis such as ASU-57 or similar can easily defeat it in extremely closer quarters engagement by simply driving up and make physical contact with the vehicle. The limited vertical traverse of the 88mm gun will mean the attacking vehicle cannot be damaged or destroyed in this situation.

There are multiple ways to destroy this vehicle. Users must take note that the design of the targeted vehicle has separated compartments for driving, gunnery and ammunition storage. Each one must be targeted best in accordance to different situations presented. Attacking forces unfamiliar with the vehicle may be confused as to which compartment to target first; the exposed ammunition storage, disable the gunnery or disable its movements; valuable time expended on this decision usually results in destruction of the unwitting user's vehicle. This does not become a problem if attacking vehicles are equipped with High-Explosive shells, as even a glancing hit will completely disable or destroy it without the need to selectively target individual compartments. If not equipped with High=Explosive Shells and the user is unfamiliar with the target vehicle, they may opt do disable the gunnery controls first and buying more valuable time to target the remaining compartments. Alternatively, due to the vehicle being constructed of light armour, can be easily perforated with 50. or higher caliber shells to ensure quick destruction if the first shell misses or fails to deal critical damage. Artillery Strike can also easily and quickly disable or destroy the vehicle. Due to the exposed crew and light armour, a brief strafe from Fighter or Bomber aircraft can also quickly disable or destroy it in a single pass.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
!colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Add-on Armor weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
|rowspan="2" | 24.3 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 43 (AB)
|-
|40 (RB/SB)
|-
!colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|326
|___
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|203
|230
|-
!colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|13.41
|__.__
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|8.35
|9.46
|-
|}

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|FlaK 37 (88 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[FlaK 37 (88 mm)|88 mm FlaK 37]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 40 || -3°/+85° || ±180° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 6.50 || 9.10 || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 6.50 || 7.70 || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 6.50 || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Pzgr. || APCBC || 146 || 145 || 128 || 118 || 104 || 100
|-
| Sprgr. L/4,5 || HE || 13 || 13 || 13 || 13 || 13 || 13
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Pzgr. || APCBC || 810 || 9.5 || 0.8 || 28 || 160 || +4° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| Sprgr. L/4,5 || HE || 820 || 11 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 935 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_8,8cmFlak37Sfl.png|right|x250px|thumbnail||[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the 8.8 cm Flak.37]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''40''' || 21 ''(+19)'' || 1 ''(+39)'' || style="text-align:left" | No
|-
|}

== Usage in the battles ==

Despite the presence of a whopping 88 mm gun on the back of this half-track, the complete lack of any armour gives this vehicle a short lifespan on the front lines. Thus, the best course is to keep the half-track as far away from the battle as possible. The gun has a slow gun traverse and a terrible depression when angled towards the front, so firing against targets at close range on level ground will leave the vulnerable and unable to return fire against targets of low-profile chassis. The gun however can be depressed further at a lower degree when pointed to the sides and rear of the vehicle as it provides more physical clearance. As such when engaging targets on level ground at close to medium ranges, it is recommended to turn the entire vehicle clockwise or counterclockwise for 45 degrees and the gun turret 45 degrees in opposition to the angle of the chassis for clearance. This should be accomplished only in areas with enough maneuvering room to ingress and egress to guarantee clearance, or else the half-rack will find itself stuck (in some cases literally) between a rock and a hard place. Find cover behind rocks or other obstacles, inch out of cover only enough to show the gun, then race back into cover after firing to avoid being shot and losing valuable crew members.

The ammo rack at the back of the halftrack can be reduced from two possible racks to one by reducing your total ammo count from 40 shells to 21, with the 21st shell will be loaded in the gun breach. This can reduce the possibility of an ammo rack explosion.

In the ways of modification purchases, try to obtain the spare parts and FPE first. From there, research Horizontal Drive, Adjustment of Fire, and Elevation Mechanism to increase your total combat effectiveness. The stock halftrack's turn rate is rather poor and needs improvement if you want to be able to quickly react to a changing battlefield. One thing that cannot be stressed enough is the fact that this vehicle is the definition of a ''Glass Cannon''. Most of the time, your TD will be destroyed by either an ammo rack explosion or most commonly a tank burn-down. Since the Flak.37 does not have armour, HEAT and HE shells can destroy you with one well placed shot.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''
* 88 mm cannon in Rank II
* Has a high potency of destroying tanks it encounters in just one shot
* Extremely fast reloads (avg. 6 seconds)
* Six crew member
* Gun elevation maxed at 85°, some may use it to fight larger aircraft
* Paper thin armour makes AP shell more likely to pass through
* More than adequate ammo for prolonged combat
'''Cons:'''
* Very little armour, a heavy machine gun or strafing aircraft, and ramming planes will make mincemeat out of this vehicle
* Armour can hull-break
* Crew exposed, artillery barrages could be lethal
* Boxes near the rear are ammo racks, smart players will just take out your gunner and shoot there
* Heavy half-track and gun gives low and sluggish speed
* With a gun depression of -3 degrees and the gun being high off the ground, you will have a near impossible chance of hitting short tanks that are really close to you on level ground
* You are a priority target for airstrikes or even escorting fighters, smart players will take the chance to destroy the vehicle (AB)

== History ==

===The half-track===
The '''Sd.Kfz. 9''' (nicknamed the ''Famo'') was Germany's heaviest half-track seeing service in World War II. The first model was made in 1936 and entered service with the Wehrmacht in 1938. Its primary purposes was as an artillery tractor and a tank recovery vehicle. The vehicle was able to tow about 28 tonnes, which was more than capable of towing the 24 cm Kanone 3 siege gun and the [[Pz.IV F1|Panzer IV]], but required two to four to tow the heavier [[Panther A|Panther]], [[Tiger H1|Tiger I]], and [[Tiger II (H)|Tiger II]]. It was produced between 1938 to 1944 with 2,500 units produced.

===The gun===
The '''8.8 cm FlaK''' is a German anti-aircraft artillery and one of their mainstay anti-air and anti-tank weapons in World War II. The 8.8 cm caliber was developed in 1917 during the times of World War I from available naval caliber to effectively combat Allied aircraft. The first of the FlaK series, the ''FlaK 18'', was mounted on a easily deployable and traversable gun platform, has a semi-automatic loading system, and had a wide variety of ammunition available from high-explosives and armour-piercing. The guns first saw service in the Spanish Civil War and it proved as one of the most effective anti-aircraft guns of the period. Improvements to the Flak led to the ''FlaK 36'' and ''FlaK 37'' with new features such as a two-piece barrel and ability to fire without deploying the gun platform. Though the set-up time for the platform was quick at two and a half minutes, the weight of the gun required a half-track such as the Sd.Kfz 7 to quickly move it to a new position. The gun proved effective on ground targets as well, much of an impact that it was adapted as a tank armament on the [[Tiger H1|Tiger I]] heavy tank. The FlaK series ended up being produced in the thousands from 1933 to 1945, with up to 21,000 units produced in that time period.

===8.8 cm Flak.37 sfl===
In 1940, fifteen examples of Sd.Kfz.9 were adapted to be mounted with the 8.8 cm FlaK 18 guns. These were officially known as '''8.8 cm Flak 18 (Sfl.) auf Zugkraftwagen 18t'''. Its primary purpose was to serve in an anti-tank role, with the half-track needed to provide much-needed mobility to the gun. Aside from these 15 units produced, not much is known of its combat performance on the battlefield, but its existence inspired some American tank destroyer designs in 1943 to mount an anti-aircraft gun on a mobile vehicle, but these proved unsuccessful.

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=germany&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=germ_sdkfz_9_flak37 8,8 cm Flak 37 Sfl.] in Warthunder Live.

== Read also ==
* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/4244-development-8-8cm-flak-37-sf-auf-s-zgkw-18t-a-heavyweight-flak-en/ [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> 8.8cm Flak 37 (Sf.) auf s. Zgkw. 18t - A Heavyweight Flak]

== Sources ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd.Kfz._9#Variants Wikipedia]

{{Germany tank destroyers}}

75/46 M43

2019-04-03T09:18:00Z

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{{Specs-Card|code=it_semovente_m43_75_46}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage 75 46 M43.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Italy tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

The Semovente 75/46 retains the improved armour of its 4.0 predecessor, with a 25mm slightly-angled frontal plate sitting in front of a flat 75mm plate and a driver's hatch on the left-hand side adding an additional 25mm of protection. This allows the Semovente's frontal armour to effectively provide up to 145mm of penetration when properly angled, or 170mm over the driver's hatch. For this reason. players should always look to angle the tanks' left side toward the enemy to allow the hatch to bounce shots more effectively.

Despite this however, the vehicles' armour scheme does contain a number of weak spots. Angling to maximise the protection of the front and side armour exposes an 85mm flat target around the vehicles headlamps. In addition to this, the lower glacis offers only 50mm of angled armour plates, although shots that penetrate this area will often be absorbed by the transmission, saving the tank at the cost of its mobility

As a result, the Semoventes' armour can provide very effective protection against same or lower-rank tanks when properly angled. Ideally, the vehicle will look to use its extremely effective high-velocity gun to engage targets from a distance, where its small frontal profile and strong frontal armour make it difficult to penetrate. Enemy players will often fail to identify the tanks weak-spots and simply fire into the flat frontal plate, allowing the Semovente to bounce rounds effectively.

The armour becomes much less effective in a full up-tier however, with Allied guns such as the British 17-pdr, US 76mm M1 and Soviet 85mm D-5T being able to reliably penetrate the vehicle at close range even when angled. The tanks' small size and cramped crew compartments also means that APHE shells offer little hope of survival should they get through its armour.

As with most tank-destroyers, the vehicles' side and rear armour do little to protect it in case of a flank, and players should always look to keep their nose pointed toward the enemy.

=== Mobility ===

The Semovente has reasonable mobility for a tank destroyer, being able to hit and maintain around 37km/h when driving off-road on level ground. The vehicle has a slow reverse speed however, only being able to hit 4km/h in its single gear.

Despite its lack of neutral steering, the tank can traverse its hull reasonably quickly from a full stop, greatly helping to overcome its lack of a turret.

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|Ansaldo 75 L/34 (75 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Ansaldo 75 L/34 (75 mm)|75 mm Ansaldo 75 L/34]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 42 || -10°/+16° || ±18° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 12.3 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 8.3 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 7.8 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Granate Perforante mod.39 || APCBC || 147 || 146 || 133 || 118 || 105 || 93
|-
| Granata mod.34 || HE || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Granate Perforante mod.39 || APCBC || 792 || 6.8 || 1.3 || 15 || 17 || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| Granata mod.34 || HE || 550 || 5.7 || 0.1 || 0.1 || 686 || ° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''XX''' || XX ''(+XX)'' || XX ''(+XX)'' || XX ''(+XX)'' || style="text-align:center" | No
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===

{{main|Breda Mod. 38 (8 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | [[Breda Mod. 38 (8 mm)|8 mm Breda Mod. 38]]
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Pintle mount''
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 504 (24) || 600 || __° || __°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The Semovente is usually most effective when remaining at a distance, where its powerful gun and strong frontal armour can do their best work. A player should ideally look to exploit the tanks' small frontal profile and reasonable mobility to get into strong position's on the enemies' flank. The 75mm gun's high velocity, good reload and post-penetration effectiveness make it ideal for attacking enemy tanks from the side, where it can easily penetrate their side armour even in a full up-tier. This normally represents the safest way to play the vehicle.

Players can be considerably more aggressive when top-rank however. Most adversaries at 4.3 or below will struggle to stop the Semoventes' gun with their frontal armour, and the vehicles' fast traverse time and low profile can allow it to quickly take out an unaware enemy, even in close quarters.

The most dangerous adversaries for the Semovente are either heavy tanks with extremely thick and angled armour, or vehicles with powerful APCBC shells that can defeat its frontal plate. [[M4A3E2|Sherman Jumbos]] have the frontal armour to stop the Semoventes' gun, with their only weakspot being their machine gun port or their turret ring, both of which represent very small targets. A Jumbo in a hull-down position represents an incredibly difficult target for the Semovente, although its short-barrelled gun will have trouble penetrating the Italian tanks' frontal plate.

Heavy Soviet tanks such as the KV-1 and the rarer IS-1 are also tough opponents for the Semovente, with the KV best shot through the turret cheeks or the machine-gun port when angled. While the IS-1 has a far better gun than either the KV-1 or the Jumbo, its vulnerable turret ring can allow the Semovente to bypass its extremely thick frontal armour.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* Powerful gun with effective penetration and post-penetration damage, high velocity and accuracy, and a decent reload.
* Strong frontal armour that can be easily angled
* Unlike nearly every other Semovente, the guns' best shell is available immediately
* Small frontal profile makes the tank easy to conceal and difficult to hit
* Decent mobility and good hull traverse
* One of relatively few tank-destroyers to mount a machine-gun, allowing players to find and mark targets

'''Cons:'''

* Armour becomes much less effective when uptiered against stronger vehicles
* The Italian tech tree lacks effective partners for the Semovente, meaning players are often forced to rely on weaker vehicles once the tank is knocked out, unless they want to be dragged into higher-rank games
* As a casemate tank destroyer, the Semovente is extremely vulnerable to flanks
* The tank lacks any other ammunition choice outside of its (admittedly very good) APHE and lacklustre HE, meaning players do not have the option of switching to an AP or APCR round for tougher opponents when necessary
* A cramped interior and only 3 crew lessens survivablilty

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=it_semovente_m43_75_46 75/46 M43] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semovente_da_75/46 Wikipedia]

{{Italy tank destroyers}}

75/34 M43

2019-04-03T09:15:15Z

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{{Specs-Card|code=it_semovente_m43_75_34}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage 75 34 M43.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Italy tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat?''

''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and maneuverability as well as the maximum speed forward and backward.''

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|Ansaldo 75 L/34 (75 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Ansaldo 75 L/34 (75 mm)|75 mm Ansaldo 75 L/34]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 45 || -10°/+16° || ±18° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 12.3 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 8.3 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 7.8 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Granata Perforante 75/32 || APCBC || 75 || 72 || 66 || 59 || 53 || 48
|-
| EPS M42 || HEAT || 100 || 100 || 100 || 100 || 100 || 100
|-
| Granata 75/32 || HE || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Granata Perforante 75/32 || APCBC || 624 || 6.2 || 1.3 || 15 || 270 || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| EPS M42 || HEAT || 552 || 5.3 || 0.0 || 0.1 || 656.64 || +0° || 62° || 69° || 73°
|-
| Granata 75/32|| HE || 552 || 6.4 || 0.4 || 0.1 || 600 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''XX''' || XX ''(+XX)'' || XX ''(+XX)'' || XX ''(+XX)'' || style="text-align:center" | No
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''

'''Pros:'''
*

'''Cons:'''
*

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=it_semovente_m43_75_34 75/34 M43] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semovente_da_105/25#Semovente_M43_da_75/34 Wikipedia]

{{Italy tank destroyers}}

75/34 M42

2019-04-03T09:08:43Z

U177059: Wikipedia link added / Link to Skins in WT Live

{{Specs-Card|code=it_semovente_m42_75_34}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage 75 34 M42.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Italy tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat?''

''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and maneuverability as well as the maximum speed forward and backward.''

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|75/34 mod.39 (75 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[75/34 mod.39 (75 mm)|75 mm 75/34 mod.39]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 45 || -10°/+22° || ±18° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 12.3 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 8.3 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 8.5 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Granata Perforante 75/32 || APCBC || 75 || 72 || 66 || 59 || 53 || 48
|-
| EPS M42 || HEAT || 100 || 100 || 100 || 100 || 100 || 100
|-
| Granata 75/32 || HE || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Granata Perforante 75/32 || APCBC || 624 || 6.2 || 1.3 || 15 || 270 || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| EPS M42 || HEAT || 552 || 5.3 || 0.0 || 0.1 || 656.64 || +0° || 62° || 69° || 73°
|-
| Granata 75/32|| HE || 552 || 6.4 || 0.4 || 0.1 || 600 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''XX''' || XX ''(+XX)'' || XX ''(+XX)'' || XX ''(+XX)'' || style="text-align:center" | No
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''

'''Pros:'''
*

'''Cons:'''
*

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=it_semovente_m42_75_34 75/34 M42] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semovente_da_75/34 Wikipedia]

{{Italy tank destroyers}}

75/32 M41

2019-04-03T09:05:52Z

U177059: Link to Skins in WT Live

{{Specs-Card|code=it_semovente_m41_75_32}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage 75 32 M41.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Italy tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat?''

''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and maneuverability as well as the maximum speed forward and backward.''

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|75/32 mod.37 (75 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[75/32 mod.37 (75 mm)|75 mm 75/32 mod.37]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 43 || -12°/+22° || ±18° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 12.3 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 8.3 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 9.7 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Granata Perforante mod.32 || APCBC || 76 || 75 || 66 || 56 || 48 || 41
|-
| Granata mod.32 || HE || 10 || 10 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9
|-
| EPS M42 || HEAT || 100 || 100 || 100 || 100 || 100 || 100
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Granata Perforante mod.32 || APCBC || 630 || 6.3 || 1.3 || 15 || 270 || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| Granata mod.32 || HE || 490 || 6.4 || 0.1 || 0.1 || 610 || ° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| EPS M42 || HEAT || 399 || 5.3 || 0.0 || 0.1 || 500 || ° || 62° || 69° || 73°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="7" | Smoke characteristic
|-
! Ammunition
! Velocity in m/s
! Projectile Mass in kg
! ''Screen radius in m''
! ''Screen time in s''
! ''Screen hold time in s:''
! ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
|-
| Gr. Fumogena || 450 || 6.4 || 13 || 5 || 20 || 50
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''XX''' || XX ''(+XX)'' || XX ''(+XX)'' || XX ''(+XX)'' || style="text-align:center" | No
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''

'''Pros:'''
*

'''Cons:'''
*

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=it_semovente_m41_75_32 75/32 M41] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''encyclopedia page on tank;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Italy tank destroyers}}

75/18 M41

2019-04-03T09:00:26Z

U177059: Wikipedia link added / Link to Skins in WT Live

{{Specs-Card|code=it_semovente_m41_75_18}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage 75 18 M41.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Italy tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

The Semovente 75/18 offers little in the way of effective protection, with its primary defence against enemy tanks being its small frontal profile. the 50mm frontal plate struggles to keep out even rank 1 British and US guns at close range, while the extremely cramped interior means that penetrations will often knock out multiple crew members and modules in a single shot.

Despite this, the Semovente's armour is still capable of keeping out machine-gun fire from most angles, and its fully-encloses design offers protection aircraft machine-guns unlike many of its low-rank open-top contemporaries.

=== Mobility ===

The Semovente is reasonably mobile for a low-rank tank destroyer, hitting around 30km/h on flat ground off-road with a fairly fast hull traverse and a poor reverse speed.

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|75/18 mod.34 (75 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[75/18 mod.34 (75 mm)|75 mm 75/18 mod.34]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 43 || -12°/+22° || ±18° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 12.3 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 8.3 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 7.8 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Granata Perforante da 75 || APCBC || 44 || 43 || 38 || 33 || 28 || 25
|-
| Granata mod.32 || HE || 10 || 10 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9
|-
| Granata Perforante mod.32 || APCBC || 51 || 50 || 44 || 38 || 32 || 28
|-
| EPS M42 || HEAT || 100 || 100 || 100 || 100 || 100 || 100
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Granata Perforante da 75 || APCBC || 425 || 6.4 || 1.3 || 15 || 270 || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| Granata mod.32 || HE || 450 || 6.4 || 0.1 || 0.1 || 610 || ° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Granata Perforante mod.32 || APCBC || 476 || 6.3 || 1.3 || 15 || 270 || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| EPS M42 || HEAT || 399 || 5.3 || 0.0 || 0.1 || 500 || ° || 62° || 69° || 73°
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="7" | Smoke characteristic
|-
! Ammunition
! Velocity in m/s
! Projectile Mass in kg
! ''Screen radius in m''
! ''Screen time in s''
! ''Screen hold time in s:''
! ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
|-
| Gr. Fumogena || 450 || 6.4 || 13 || 5 || 20 || 50
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''XX''' || XX ''(+XX)'' || XX ''(+XX)'' || XX ''(+XX)'' || style="text-align:center" | No
|-
|}

=== Machine guns ===

{{main|Breda Mod. 38 (8 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="7" | [[Breda Mod. 38 (8 mm)|8 mm Breda Mod. 38]]
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Pintle mount''
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate (shots/minute)
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
|-
| colspan="4" | 504 (24) || 600 || __° || __°
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

The Semovente will struggle to be effective with the extremely poor penetration of its APHE rounds. With a max penetration of barely 50mm at point-blank range, the vehicle will have problems penetrating the angled front armour of many similar rank vehicles, with light-tanks, armoured cars and SPAA being the best targets. In a full up-tier, the Semovente will struggle to do any damage at all with stock shells, with the sole exception of light tanks and AA vehicles.

In this case, it is best for drivers to attempt to flank and shoot enemies from the side, where the powerful explosive capacity of the APHE shells offer excellent single-shot knock-out capability.

The vehicle's effectiveness improves massively once the HEAT shell is unlocked, with 100mm of penetration at all ranges. This allows for reliable penetration of practically all the Semovente's potential adversaries with the vehicle's most dangerous opponents being fast and agile light tanks such as the M22, which can easily penetrate the Semovente from close range and whose speed and size make a difficult target for the Semovente's low-velocity howitzer.

With the HEAT shell, the Semovente can make for an effective support vehicle, albeit one whose lack of survivability punishes positional mistakes harshly. The one thing to remember about the HEAT shell is that it sacrifices the one-shot capability of APHE, meaning that larger tanks will often take multiple hits to disable, and its even lower velocity makes its excellent long-range penetration difficult to exploit.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* Good penetration with the HEAT shell
* Top-mounted machine gun offers some utility not available to many low-rank tank destroyers
* 75/18 M41's position in the tech tree can allow for a decent aircraft and tank lineup with vehicles like the [[AB43]] scout, [[M15/42]] medium tank, and [[Re.2001 CB]] fighter-bomber

'''Cons:'''

* Poor armour and survivability
* Mediocre mobility
* Low-velocity gun with a slow reload makes long-range shots difficult
* Poor post-penetration damage with the HEAT shell, and terrible penetration with either APHE

== History ==

The Semovente 75/18 was originally intended to be a self-propelled gun rather than a tank destroyer, with the War Thunder version being an improved variant built upon the M41 tank chassis with improved armour.

In response to the poor effectiveness of existing Italian tank destroyer designs such as the 47/32 L40, the Semovente was pressed into service to combat US-built [[M3 Lee]] and [[M3 Stuart|Stuart]] tanks in service with the British Army in North Africa. Utilising a HEAT shell, the Semovente proved to be an effective counter to early-war British tanks, with its small size making it ideal for dug-in defensive positions where its lack of speed wasn't an issue.

In one engagement in 1942, Semovente's of the Ariete Division repelled an attack from 40 British light and medium tanks, destroying 20 with no losses of their own. While the Semovente's HEAT shell proved effective against early-war tank designs, tougher Allied tanks such as the [[M4|M4 Sherman]] represented a new challenge. This, as well as the Semovente's cramped interior, low-velocity gun and under-powered engine lead to the development of larger and faster dedicated tank destroyer designs with superior firepower.

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=it_semovente_m41_75_18 75/18 M41] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semovente_da_75/18 Wikipedia]

{{Italy tank destroyers}}

47/32 L40

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{{Specs-Card|code=it_semovente_l40}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage 47 32 L40.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (shortened as '''{{Specs|pseudonym}}''') is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Italy tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpfull for survival in combat?''

''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and maneuverability as well as the maximum speed forward and backward.''

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|47/32 mod.35 (47 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[47/32 mod.35 (47 mm)|47 mm 47/32 mod.35]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 70 || -12°/+20° || ±13.5° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 15.9 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 10.7 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 7.8 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Granata Perforante mod.35 || APHE || 54 || 52 || 40 || 30 || 22 || 16
|-
| Granata mod.35 || HE || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4
|-
| Granata Perforante mod.39 || APBC || 53 || 52 || 45 || 39 || 33 || 28
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Granata Perforante mod.35 || APHE || 630 || 1.5 || 1.2 || 15 || 30 || ° || 47° || 60° || 65°
|-
| Granata mod.35 || HE || 250 || 2.4 || 2 || 0.1 || 150 || ° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
| Granata Perforante mod.39 || APBC || 630 || 1.4 || 1.2 || 15 || 30 || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''70''' || XX ''(+XX)'' || XX ''(+XX)'' || XX ''(+XX)'' || style="text-align:center" | No
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''

'''Pros:'''
*

'''Cons:'''
*

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=it_semovente_l40 47/32 L40] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semovente_da_47/32 Wikipedia]

{{Italy tank destroyers}}

Gun Carrier (3-in)

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{{Specs-Card|code=uk_3_inch_gun_carrier}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_3inchGunCarrier.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''3 inch Gun Carrier''' is a Rank II British tank destroyer with a battle rating of 3.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced along with the entire British tree line in [[Update 1.55 "Royal Armour"]]. This abomination of a vehicle is based on a Churchill chassis. It sport a 3-inch gun that they couldn't fit into a normal Churchill turret, but in the world's boxiest crew compartment. In all seriousness, you will likely see the tracks (and suspension) before you see anything else. Once you've recognized that there is no turret, then you know its a 3-inch Gun Carrier.

The 3 inch Gun Carrier is an interesting tank that can be difficult to play. Combining the aspects of an assault gun and a tank destroyer, it has a strange play style. At longer ranges, getting a penetration with the main gun can be difficult whilst the small arc and low turn rate makes close quarters fighting extremely hazardous. The first thing to take note of is your armour - at 89mm on the front you are one of the toughest vehicles at this rank. However this armour is flat and unsloped. At the sides the armour drops to 76 mm and the rear is only 25 mm thick meaning that, when combined with the positioning of the crew, a penetration from either of these angles is usually deadly.

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===

'''Armour type:'''
* Rolled homogeneous armour
* Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mount, Cupola)
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
|-
| Hull || 38 mm (69°) ''Front glacis'' 76.2 mm (17°) ''Lower glacis''|| 76.2 mm || 25.4 mm ''Top'' 25.4 mm (68°)''Bottom'' || 16 mm
|-
| Superstructure || 89 mm 100 mm (2-46°)''Gun mount'' || 76.2 mm || 25.4 mm || 16 mm 40 mm ''Cupola''
|-
|}
'''Notes:'''
* Suspension wheels and chassis construction are 20 mm thick while tracks are 30 mm thick.

=== Mobility ===

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
!colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
|-
! Weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Add-on Armor weight (tons)
!colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
|-
|rowspan="2" | 39.0 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 22.3 (AB)
|-
|20.5 (RB/SB)
|-
!colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|497
|612
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|310
|350
|-
!colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
!Stock
!Upgraded
|-
|''Arcade''
|12.74
|15.69
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
|7.95
|8.97
|-
|}

== Armaments ==

{{main|Ordnance QF 3-inch 20 cwt (76 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Ordnance QF 3-inch 20 cwt (76 mm)|76 mm OQF 3-inch 20 cwt]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 65 || -10°/+15° || ±5° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 2.70 || 3.70 || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 2.70 || 3.10 || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 8.10 || _.__ || _.__ || _.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Shot Mk.2 || AP || 105 || 104 || 87 || 67 || 53 || 42
|-
| Shell HE || HE || 8 || 8 || 8 || 8 || 8 || 8
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Shot Mk.2 || AP || 762 || 5.7 || N/A || N/A || N/A || -1° || 47° || 60° || 65°
|-
| Shell HE || HE || 609 || 7.3 || 0.4 || 0.5 || 530 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks_3inchGunCarrier.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the 3-inch Gun Carrier.]]
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''65''' || 53 ''(+12)'' || 40 ''(+25)'' || 27 ''(+38)'' || 14 ''(+51)'' || 1 ''(+64)'' || style="text-align:left" | no
|-
|}
Left side empty: 27 ''(+38)''

== Usage in the battles ==

The first thing you need to worry about are your flanks. If the enemy gets on to these you will usually be knocked out pretty quickly and with the pathetic turn rate you will rarely be able to respond. When positioning yourself make sure that your flanks are covered. The best way to do this is to position yourself in the centre of a narrow street or park up directly next to a large rock or building. Alternatively try to alert your comrades to your position and needs though if you have my luck then this will be a last resort.

Next angle yourself. With a bit of angling you can get your frontal and side armour to be effectively around 100mm thick together, meaning that only F2's will be able to take you from beyond short range. Finally, try to get below a bridge or overhang. Enemy aircraft love the 3" Gun Carrier's large, ponderous form and the thin top armour can be penetrated by some of the heavier armaments carried by fighters.

You want to prioritize [[Pz.IV F2|Panzer IV F2]]'s as these will make mincemeat of your tank. Go for the gunners position unless you have a shot at the hull and are confident that you will take it out in a single shell. [[T-34 (1941)|T-34's]] beyond 100 meters are tricky as well, but they also struggle with penetrating your armour. So its best to try and ignore them unless you are confident about it. Everything else should be a relatively easy target, but watch out for the enemy maneuvering to your sides in fast tanks. A tank on your flank is a sure way to get yourself destroyed since a single APHE shell from a German or Soviet tank could knock out the entire crew if it penetrates.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''
* Good frontal armour.
* Decent gun damage.
* Can turn in place.
'''Cons:'''
* Large target.
* Slow.
* Four crew members.
* Terrible penetration and accuracy.
* Vulnerable top, can be strafed by planes and set on fire.
* '''Flat''' armour.

== History ==

===Development===
In 1941, the British General Staff requested for tanks that can mount a high-velocity cannon. The purpose of this is to create an "expedient design to deal with enemy tanks until the 17-pounder became widespread" due to the risk of a German invasion on the British islands. None of the tanks at the time of this request had the necessary specifications to mount a heavier and larger cannon, the [[Churchill Mk III|Churchill]] and [[Valentine Mk IX|Valentine]] tanks could only hold the 6-pounders. To fix this, it was proposed that a casemate superstructure be used in the design to hold the heavier gun instead, akin to the typical tank destroyer used by Germany and Soviet Union at the time. The company Vauxhall was given 100 of the obsolete 3-inch guns and were tasked to produce a vehicle able to mount these guns. Designing was finished in April 1941, a mock up produced in July, and the first pilot vehicles were finished in early 1942, ready for testing. During these stages, the Department of Tank Design put in an order for 100 of these vehicles. The pilot vehicle was essentially a large 88 mm armoured superstructure with the 3-inch gun mounted in a ball mount, the entire thing was propelled on a Churchill chassis. The tests proved that the vehicles preformed satisfactory and could work, but with the now reduced risk of a German invasion and better equipment becoming to be more widespread, the orders placed on the vehicles wavered to only about 49 vehicles in January 1942. Production for the '''Carrier, Churchill, 3-inch Gun, Mk I''' proceeded from May 1942 to November 2, producing 50 3-inch Gun Carriers total.

===Proposed usage===
The 3-inch Gun Carrier never saw combat, but it wasn't ignored during its production life. In April 1942, it was proposed that several army tank brigades of Canada be equipped with these 3-inch Gun Carriers, of which 9 would be received and would be split to three troops of three Carriers. It was proposed by Brigadier R.A. Wyman, the commander of the 1st Canadian Army Tank Brigade, that these Carriers be distributed as anti-tank groups. A new company in the brigade system known as the "Heavy Support Company" would man the Carriers and the system would run like an anti-tank regiment in an infantry division. These companies would have about 97 personnel, with 28 headquarters and the rest in the troops, and these were to be assigned to army tank battalions. This was approved in June 24, 1942 by Canadian Military Headquarters and the formation of such unit commenced.

Formation of the Heavy Support Company in the 1st Canadian Army Tank brigade drew its ranks from the brigade, with Captain G.S.G. Jones as the commander of the company, nominated by the brigade regiments. Doctrine, organization, and training were discussed in July 15. Despite the preparation, the Carriers were never delivered until September 1942. During training, it was found that the Carriers had a tendency to throw their track while turning at speed higher than 10 mph. In October, the company was redesignated as a "squadron" to conform to armour nomenclature in the Canadian Armoured Corp. By November, there were 10 Carriers available for the squadron. In February 1943, the 1st Canadian Corps then ordered that the Heavy Support Squadron in the 1st Canadian Army Tank Brigade be broken up immediately, perhaps due to the Carrier's growing obsolesce with the evolution of tank warfare. By March 1943, all the Carriers were returned or stored away and the squadron was dismissed.

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=britain&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=uk_3_inch_gun_carrier 3 inch Gun Carrier] in Warthunder Live.

==References==
<references />

== Read also ==

[https://servicepub.wordpress.com/2013/11/04/the-carrier-churchill-3-inch-gun-mk-i/ An account on the usage of the 3-inch Gun Carrier]

== Sources ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill_tank#Gun_Carrier,_3-inch,_Mk_I,_Churchill_(A22D) Wikipedia]

{{Britain tank destroyers}}

15 cm Pz.W.42

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{{Specs-Card|code=germ_panzerwerfer_42}}
{{DISPLAYTITLE:15 cm Pz.W.42}}

== Description ==
''In the description, the first part needs to be about the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the ground vehicle in the game. Insert the screenshot of the vehicle. If the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, they will immediately understand what kind of vehicle it is talking about.''

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpfull for survival in combat?''

''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and maneuverability as well as the maximum speed forward and backward.''

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===
''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibilty of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''

=== Additional armament ===
''Some tanks are armed with several guns in one or more turrets. Evaluate the additional weaponry and give advice on its use. Describe the ammunition available for additional weaponry. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage. If there is no additional weaponry remove this subsection.''

=== Machine guns ===
''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft, but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''

== Usage in the battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Do not use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''

'''Pros:'''
*

'''Cons:'''
*

== History ==
''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/historical reference" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/Name-vehicles/historical reference) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to include links to sources at the end of the article.''

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=germany&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=germ_panzerwerfer_42 15cm Pz.W.42] in Warthunder Live.

== Read also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
''ETC.''

== Sources ==

* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerwerfer Wikipedia]

M43 "G.C.Leoncello"

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{{Specs-Card
|code=it_semovente_m43_105_leoncello
|store=6553
}}
{{Notice|''This page is about the premium tank destroyer '''{{PAGENAME}}'''. For the regular version, see [[105/25 M43]]''}}

== Description ==

[[File:GarageImage_105 25 M43 G.C.Leoncello.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
{{break}}
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Italy tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].

== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat?''

''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''

=== Mobility ===
''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability as well as the maximum speed forward and backward.''

== Armaments ==
=== Main armament ===

{{main|Cannone Ansaldo da 105/25 (105 mm)}}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="6" | [[Cannone Ansaldo da 105/25 (105 mm)|105 mm Cannone Ansaldo da 105/25]]
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
! rowspan="1" | Vertical guidance
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
|-
| colspan="3" | 48 || -10°/+16° || ±18° || N/A
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
! style="width:4em" |Stock
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 12.3 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 8.3 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
|-
| 13.0 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
|-
|}

===== Ammunition =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
|-
! 10m
! 100m
! 500m
! 1000m
! 1500m
! 2000m
|-
| Granata Perforante da 105 || APC || 90 || 88 || 80 || 71 || 63 || 56
|-
| Effeto Pronto mod.43 || HEAT || 120 || 120 || 120 || 120 || 120 || 120
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity in m/s
! rowspan="2" |Projectile Mass in kg
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
''in m:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
''in mm:''
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):''
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° from horizontal:''
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
|-
! 0%
! 50%
! 100%
|-
| Granata Perforante da 105 || APC || 500 || 16 || 0.8 || 28 || 275 || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
|-
| Effeto Pronto mod.43 || HEAT || 510 || 14 || 0.0 || 0.1 || 1.8 || ° || 62° || 69° || 73°
|-
|}

===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual discrepancy
|-
|| '''XX''' || XX ''(+XX)'' || XX ''(+XX)'' || XX ''(+XX)'' || style="text-align:center" | No
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==
''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

* Powerful 105mm gun that can fire HEAT rounds.
* Low profile can make it difficult to spot in RB/SB.
* Reasonably fast.
* Good gun depression.

'''Cons:'''

* The mantlet armor can be penetrated by the majority of the guns at its Rank.
* No turret.

== History ==

In mid-1942, the Italian Army put out a set of requirements for a new vehicle that could double up as both an infantry support vehicle as well as a tank destroyer, depending on the situation. In response to this, Fiat-Ansaldo and OTO both began developing prototypes around these requirements in parallel.

The two competing designs primarily differed in the chassis choice. OTO picked the newer chassis of the P40 heavy tank whilst Fiat-Ansaldo chose to opt for a newer and larger version of the chassis already in production for their Semovente M42.

This decision allowed Fiat-Ansaldo to complete their prototype much sooner. In February 1943, the Semovente 105/25 M43 was presented to military officials and was soon afterwards ordered into production, following successful trials.

Production began in April 1943, with a planned production run of over 800 vehicles. However, with Italy’s industry at this late stage of the war being severely crippled, production was slow and reaching such high production goals was more than unlikely.

Just prior to the signing of the armistice in September, the 30th vehicle rolled off the assembly line. The Semovente 105/25 M43 proved itself in combat during the defence of Rome, where the SPGs successfully engaged German forces trying to retake the city.

After the occupation of northern Italy by German forces, the Fiat-Ansaldo company restarted production of the Semovente 105/25, this time however, for the Germans. Germany only used a limited number of these vehicles under the designation Sturmgeschütz M43 mit 105/25 853(i), of which most were no longer in use by late 1944.

Around 120 Semovente 105/25 M43s were built by 1944, primarily serving with Italian or German forces. By the late stages of the war, only a limited number was still in service and after the end of WW2, the vehicle was retired from service.

''- From [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5894-development-semovente-105-25-m43-low-profile-high-power-en Devblog]''

== Media ==
Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=it_semovente_m43_105_leoncello 105/25 M43 G.C.Leoncello] in Warthunder Live.

== See also ==
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

== External links ==

* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5894-development-semovente-105-25-m43-low-profile-high-power-en [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> Semovente 105/25 M43: Low Profile, High Power]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semovente_da_105/25 Wikipedia]

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