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Peten

2023-10-22T13:42:53Z

U17301481: Re-added hyperlinks in Flight performance

{{About
| about = Israeli attack helicopter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = AH-64 (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ah_64a_iaf
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Heli-Flight}}

''The AH-64A Peten is one of the fastest helicopters in the game, only trumped by the british [[G-LYNX]] and the likes of the [[Mi-24 (Family)]]. It has two powerful engines, which gives the Peten a good climb rate. Manoeuvrability at high speed is excellent too, being able to even execute barrel rolls without losing too much altitude; a feat many helicopters can only dream of. Overall it offers great flight performance and feels right at home for both newcomers and experienced players.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 1,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
|-
! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 270 || 251 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Heli-Armour}}
''The AH-64A Peten has only limited armour protection installed with bullet proof glass only being installed on the pilot windscreen. The helicopter uses Kevlar boron carbide, composite martial which is limited only to instrument, floor and side panels around the cockpit. It does not provide the same level of protection as seen on other helicopters such as the [[Mi-28N]].''

* ''Bullet proof glass installed only for the pilot - 22 mm thick.''
* ''Installation of Kevlar boron carbide, composite martial only on the: Seats, cockpit side panels, Gunner floor panels and pilot instrument panel - 20 mm thick.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Heli-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Offensive}}

{{main|M230E-1 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between three presets:
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon (1,200 rpg)
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon + 60 x countermeasures
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon + 60 x countermeasures + IRCM

''The Peten has the same 30 mm cannon as the other Apaches in the game currently, and only has one belt choice. The belt carries only HEDP rounds, and can penetrate up to 51 mm of armour. The gun is fast firing, but relatively inaccurate, so shooting in close range is the best way to hit your target. If you don't mind the inaccuracy of the gun, it is a very good weapon all around. It can be locked in gunner and 3rd person view and will automatically track the target.''

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Suspended}}

{{main|AGM-114B Hellfire|ATAS (AIM-92)|Hydra-70 M247}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 76 x Hydra-70 M247 rockets
* 4 x AGM-114B Hellfire missiles
* 8 x AGM-114B Hellfire missiles
* 16 x AGM-114B Hellfire missiles
* 4 x ATAS (AIM-92) missiles

''The Peten can carry up to 16 Hellfire ATGMs with over 1,000 mm of pen, 76 Hydra rockets with over 200 mm of pen, or 4 Stinger AAMs. The weapons are carried on the stub wings and can be carried in several different variations. The Hellfires are excellent missiles, although since the player must keep "painting" a laser beam on the target, misses can occur if the target lock slips. The Hydra rockets are generally very effective, especially when used with the ballistic computer. 76 rockets is enough for 3-5 tanks if they are used by an experienced player. However, the Stinger AAMs are not the best in the game by any stretch, with relatively little explosive mass and only a 10G overload. They may take 2-3 hits to damage aircraft, and heavily armoured helicopters such as the Mi-28 may survive multiple hits.''

==== Custom loadout options ====
{| class="wikitable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
|-
! !! width="7%" | 1 !! width="7%" | 2 !! width="7%" | 3 !! width="7%" | 4 !! width="7%" | 5 !! width="7%" | 6
| rowspan="4" width="20%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_{{PAGENAME}}.png]]</div>
|-
! Hydra-70 M247 rockets
| || 19 || 19 || 19 || 19 ||
|-
! AGM-114B Hellfire missiles
| || 2, 4 || 2, 4 || 2, 4 || 2, 4 ||
|-
! ATAS (AIM-92) missiles
| 2 || || || || || 2
|-
|}

=== Defensive systems ===
The '''''Peten''''' has the following Defensive systems installed:

* '''Countermeasures''' - 60 built-in
* '''AN/APR-39''' - Radar Warning Receiver (RWR); C-M detectable bands; track and launch detection
* '''AN/AVR-2''' - Laser Warning Receiver (LWR)
* '''AN/AAR-47''' - Missile Approach Warning system (MAW)
* '''AIM-92 Stinger''' - AIM 92 Stinger missiles

''All 3 major defensive sensors (RWR, LWR and MAW) come standard with the helicopter and are essential to surviving enemy attacks. The Peten comes stock with 60 countermeasures in the form of just flares, however, in order to select a mix of flares and chaff, the adequate modification [Flares/Chaff (tier I)] will have to be researched. The AIM-92 Stinger module can be researched at tier III and adds an extra layer of defence against both enemy aircraft and other helicopters. The Stinger launchers are mounted in pairs on the wingtips and do not compromise any hardpoint space for other weaponry.''

== Usage in battles ==

'''Overview:'''

The AH-64A Peten is an excellent helicopter for attacking ground targets, and can also hold its own against many enemy aircraft. Through adequate use of cover, teamwork, and game sense, the Apache can easily dismantle enemy teams. An Apache pilot must understand all of the tools at their disposal. The only difference between the Peten and the tech tree [[AH-64A]] is that the Peten lacks access to the AIM-9L Sidewinders as an ordnance option.

The Apache has an arsenal of weapons. The most effective anti-tank weapon in the Apache's arsenal is the AGM-114 Hellfire, which uses a top attack trajectory to destroy ground vehicles. There is functionally very little difference between the AGM-114B and K variants, used on early and late Apaches respectively.

'''Staying Alive:'''

Flying the Apache effectively can be more difficult than most players would imagine, even with all the sensors it offers. Trying to deal with threats from enemy air and ground vehicles while continuing to attack the enemy team can be difficult. If distracted, a pilot can quickly lose situational awareness. Being successful in the Apache requires situational awareness above all else. Due to the fragility of the helicopter, any blindspot can lead to a quick and sudden death as even with the MAW one might not always be in an adequate position to defend against the incoming threat. Additionally, the mobility of the Apache is adequate but not impressive, so evasive manoeuvres are not always effective; after all, it is still a helicopter.

Using cover is a very important part of staying alive in the Apache. Always stay behind a hill or building in ground battles. When exposing yourself in order to fire on the enemy, be mindful to not gain too much altitude. Most importantly, ''Always listen to your RWR.'' If you hear an alarm, take evasive action immediately.

Additionally, it is important to know when to use flares. Flares are extremely effective against heat-seeking missiles, but useless against any other missiles. It is the responsibility of the Apache pilot to recognize the threat and decide whether to use flares or not.

'''Air-to-Air (Stinger and Gun):'''

The Apache is surprisingly potent in air-to-air combat. Engagements should be conducted primarily through the use of the AIM-92 Stinger missiles. The Stinger is a simple but effective air-to-air missile. It has an excellent seeker head and can obtain all aspect lock on almost any air target within 3-5 km (even propeller aircraft with a low heat signature). However, the Stinger can be easily fooled by flares or outmanoeuvred by a fast enemy aircraft. The best way to use the Stinger against enemy aircraft is when they are heading directly towards you. If fired at the right second, most enemies will struggle to dodge a Stinger.

If the enemy gets close, the 30 mm autocannon can be extremely effective. The gun will automatically aim with optical lock, so Apache pilots can aim accurately while taking evasive manoeuvres.

'''Close Range Air-to-Ground (Gun and Rockets):'''

At close range, the Apache has excellent offensive capability. The 30 mm autocannon is incredibly accurate even at surprisingly far distances. This cannon uses a High Explosive Dual Purpose round that can engage lightly armoured targets. Rocket pods can also be used, with the CCIP computer helping maintain accuracy even at further distances. Be careful when trying to use the Hellfire missile at close range. It can do a direct attack at closer ranges (rather than its usual top attack) but if fired at an odd angle, it may not have time to manoeuvre onto the target if fired at closer ranges.

The problem with trying to engage at close range is that doing so will put the Apache in huge amounts of danger. Enemy tanks will be able to quickly destroy the Apache with their main guns or anti-aircraft machine guns.

'''Long Range Air-to-Ground (Hellfire):'''
[[File:HellfireTrajectory.png|thumb]]
At longer ranges, the Hellfire missile can be used to full effect. The Hellfire will guide on its target as shown in the attached diagram. This is known as top attack. Being that it takes this path to the enemy target, the Hellfire can take upward of 30 seconds to reach its target at longer ranges. Do not fire at enemies that are about to move to cover, and make sure to fire multiple missiles at once in order to deal maximum damage. Because the Hellfire is laser guided, multiple missiles can be fired at once. They should be fired at intervals of 5-10 seconds, where between missiles the Apache can switch to a new ground target. This will allow for the quick destruction of multiple enemies. This tactic can be incredibly effective. Although the time to target for the most recently fired Hellfire is available on the HUD, pilots will have to keep track of all the missiles they have fired by memory and quick calculations.
[[File:HellfireSequenceDemonstration.mp4|left|thumb]]
Combatting enemy anti-aircraft vehicles can be a challenge. Always remain in cover and move unpredictably in combat. Use the radar warning receiver to obtain the general direction of enemy AA, and then attack with a Hellfire. An effective strategy is to fire a Hellfire, break optical lock to gain cover and avoid counterfire, and then pop back up and get lock again several seconds before the Hellfire hits. This strategy if applied correctly will result in a hit, as the Hellfire is smart enough to begin following the laser designator again once the Apache re-obtains its lock.

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* High top speed and manoeuvrability
* Good air-to-air capability with autotracking 30mm gun and Stinger missiles
* Good 30mm gun with HEDP belts; great against anything, especially fragile vehicles
* Excellent secondary armament; can carry up to 16 Hellfires on top of 4 AAMs
* Advanced countermeasure system with radar warning receiver (RWR) and Missile Alert Warning
* Well armoured for a helicopter; may survive hits from SAMs
* Excellent thermals and zoom

'''Cons:'''

* Stinger air-to-air missiles don't turn well, aren't reliable, and don't have enough explosive mass to guarantee a kill upon a hit
* Hellfires are difficult to guide to air targets due to their trajectory
* Easily destroyed by main adversary ([[Ka-50]] & [[Ka-52]]) and enemy aircraft
* 30 mm cannon is relatively inaccurate at range

*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the helicopter in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ah_64a_iaf Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|irF2YOn8zOs|'''AH-64 Apache Ultimate Review''' - ''Bob Dickinson''}}

== See also ==


;[[AH-64 (Family)|Related development]]

* [[AH-64A Peten (USA)]]
* [[AH-64A Peten (Israel)]]

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Israel helicopters}}

Saraph

2023-10-22T13:41:14Z

U17301481: Offensive and Suspended armament; formatting

{{Specs-Card
|code=ah_64d_i_saraph
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Heli-Flight}}

''The AH-64D-I Saraph provides great manoeuvrability, incredible acceleration and overall has a great speed of up to 319 km/h in arcade and 295 km/h in realistic and simulator game modes. It is as fast as the American [[AH-64D]] but the title of fastest Apache belongs to the British Army variant called the [[AH Mk.1]]. The IDF AH-64D-I is able to do manoeuvres other helicopters can only dream about, from barrel roles, flips to loops. This allows it to evade enemy missiles with relative ease and surprise enemy tankers who will be mostly helpless against it.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 1,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
|-
! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 272 || 253 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Heli-Armour}}


''The AH-64D-I Apache "Saraph" has only limited armour protection installed, with bullet proof glass only being installed on the pilot windscreen. The helicopter uses Kevlar boron carbide, composite martial which is limited only to instrument, floor and side panels around the cockpit. It does not provide the same level of protection as seen on other helicopters such as the [[Mi-28N]].''

*''Bullet proof glass installed only for the pilot - 22 mm thick.''
*''Installation of Kevlar boron carbide, composite martial only on the: Seats, cockpit side panels, Gunner floor panels and pilot instrument panel - 20 mm thick.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Heli-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" |[[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
!CCIP (Guns)!!CCIP (Rockets)!!CCIP (Bombs)
|-
|{{Tick}}||{{Tick}}||{{Cross}}
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Offensive}}

{{main|M230E-1 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon, chin turret (1,200 rpg)
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon + 180 x countermeasures

''The Saraph has the same 30 mm cannon as the other Apaches in the game currently, and only has one belt choice. The belt carries only HEDP rounds, and can penetrate up to 51 mm of armour. The gun is fast firing, but relatively inaccurate, so shooting in close range is the best way to hit your target. If you don't mind the inaccuracy of the gun, it is a very good weapon all around. It can be locked in gunner and 3rd person view and will automatically track the target.''

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Suspended}}

{{main|AGM-114K Hellfire II|ATAS (AIM-92)|Hydra-70 M247}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 76 x Hydra-70 M247 rockets
* 4 x AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
* 8 x AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
* 16 x AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
* 4 x ATAS (AIM-92) missiles

''The Saraph can carry up to 16 Hellfire II ATGMs with over 1,000 mm of pen and a tandem warhead, 76 Hydra rockets with over 200 mm of pen, or 4 Stinger AAMs. The weapons are carried on the stub wings and can be carried in several different variations. The Hellfires are excellent missiles, although since the player must keep "painting" a laser beam on the target, misses can occur if the target lock slips. The Hydra rockets are generally very effective, especially when used with the ballistic computer. 76 rockets is enough for 3-5 tanks if they are used by an experienced player. However, the Stinger AAMs are not the best in the game by any stretch, with relatively little explosive mass and only a 10G overload. They may take 2-3 hits to damage aircraft, and heavily armoured helicopters such as the Mi-28 may survive multiple hits.''

==== Custom loadout options ====
{| class="wikitable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
|-
! !! width="7%" | 1 !! width="7%" | 2 !! width="7%" | 3 !! width="7%" | 4 !! width="7%" | 5 !! width="7%" | 6
| rowspan="4" width="20%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_AH-64A_(Israel).png]]</div>
|-
! Hydra-70 M247 rockets
| || 19 || 19 || 19 || 19 ||
|-
! AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
| || 2, 4 || 2, 4 || 2, 4 || 2, 4 ||
|-
! ATAS (AIM-92) missiles
| 2 || || || || || 2
|-
|}
The '''''Saraph''''' has the following Defensive systems installed:

* '''Countermeasures''' - 180 built-in
* '''AN/APR-39''' - Radar Warning Receiver (RWR); C-M detectable bands; track and launch detection
* '''AN/AVR-2''' - Laser Warning Receiver (LWR)
* '''AN/AAR-47''' - Missile Approach Warning system (MAW)
* '''AIM-92 Stinger''' - AIM 92 Stinger missiles

''All 3 major defensive sensors (RWR, LWR and MAW) come standard with the helicopter and are essential to surviving enemy attacks. The Peten comes stock with 180 countermeasures in the form of just flares, however, in order to select a mix of flares and chaff, the adequate modification [Flares/Chaff (tier I)] will have to be researched. The AIM-92 Stinger module can be researched at tier III and adds an extra layer of defence against both enemy aircraft and other helicopters. The Stinger launchers are mounted in pairs on the wingtips and do not compromise any hardpoint space for other weaponry.''

== Usage in battles ==

'''Overview'''

The AH-64D-I is an Israeli modified version of the venerable [[AH-64D]] and in turn very similar to the [[AH-64A]] Apache. The differences between it and the A are the lack of an option to carry AIM-9L missiles, the new Longbow radar, improved Hellfires, and an improved ECM package. It is also slightly different to the American D version as it lacks the laser guided APKWS rockets. The Apache is an excellent helicopter for attacking ground targets, and can also hold its own against many enemy aircraft. Through adequate use of cover, teamwork, and game sense, the Apache can easily dismantle enemy teams. An Apache pilot must understand all of the tools at their disposal.

The Apache has an arsenal of weapons. The most effective anti-tank weapon in the Apache's arsenal is the AGM-114 Hellfire, which uses a top attack trajectory to destroy ground vehicles. There is functionally very little difference between the AGM-114B and K variants, used on early and late Apaches respectively.

'''Staying alive:'''

Flying the Apache effectively can be more difficult than most players would imagine, even with all the sensors it offers. Trying to deal with threats from enemy air and ground vehicles while continuing to attack the enemy team can be difficult. If distracted, a pilot can quickly lose situational awareness. Being successful in the Apache requires situational awareness above all else. Due to the fragility of the helicopter, any blindspot can lead to a quick and sudden death as even with the MAW one might not always be in an adequate position to defend against the incoming threat. Additionally, the mobility of the Apache is adequate but not impressive, so evasive manoeuvres are not always effective; after all, it is still a helicopter.

Using cover is a very important part of staying alive in the Apache. Always stay behind a hill or building in ground battles. When exposing yourself in order to fire on the enemy, be mindful to not gain too much altitude. Most importantly, always listen to your RWR and MAW. If you hear an alarm, take evasive action immediately.

The biggest improvement of the later Apache variants is the ability to mount the Longbow radar system. This system, if used properly, will help maintain situational awareness.

Additionally, it is important to know when to use flares. Flares are extremely effective against heat-seeking missiles, but useless against any other missiles. It is the responsibility of the Apache pilot to recognize the threat and decide whether to use flares or not. For Apaches with MAW (missile alert warning), there is an option for flares to be dispensed automatically.

'''Using the Longbow radar'''

The radar of the Apache should be used as a secondary tool when engaging ground targets. The radar is not effective in obtaining target lock for ground vehicles. The AGM-114L radar guided Hellfire is not in the game, so guidance of Hellfires should be done by using the FLIR thermal imaging camera to lase targets. However, the radar is still useful in detecting enemy aircraft. By using the multi-function menu to switch radar mode, the radar will begin to search for air rather than ground targets. Keeping track of enemy aircraft is vital to survival in the Apache, as any plane can make quick work of the Apache if the helicopter is unprepared.

'''Air-to-air (Stinger and gun)'''

The Apache is surprisingly potent in air-to-air combat. Engagements should be conducted primarily through the use of the Stinger missile. The Stinger is a simple but effective air-to-air missile. It has an excellent seeker head and can obtain all aspect lock on almost any air target within 3-5 km (even propeller aircraft with a low heat signature). However, the Stinger can be easily fooled by flares or outmanoeuvred by a fast enemy aircraft. The best way to use the Stinger against enemy aircraft is when they are heading directly towards you. If fired at the right second, most enemies will struggle to dodge a Stinger.

If the enemy gets close, the 30 mm autocannon can be extremely effective. The gun will automatically aim with optical lock, so Apache pilots can aim accurately while taking evasive manoeuvres.

'''Close-range air-to-ground (gun and rockets)'''

At close range, the Apache has excellent offensive capability. The 30 mm autocannon is incredibly accurate even at surprisingly far distances. This cannon uses a High Explosive Dual Purpose round that can engage lightly armoured targets. Rocket pods can also be used, with the CCIP computer helping maintain accuracy even at further distances. Be careful when trying to use the Hellfire missile at close range. It can do a direct attack at closer ranges (rather than its usual top attack) but if fired at an odd angle, it may not have time to manoeuvre onto the target if fired at closer ranges.

The problem with trying to engage at close range is that doing so will put the Apache in huge amounts of danger. Enemy tanks will be able to quickly destroy the Apache with their main guns or anti-aircraft machine guns.
[[File:HellfireTrajectory.png|thumb]]
'''Long-range air-to-ground (Hellfire)'''

At longer ranges, the Hellfire missile can be used to full effect. The Hellfire will guide on its target as shown in the attached diagram. This is known as top attack. Being that it takes this path to the enemy target, the Hellfire can take upward of 30 seconds to reach its target at longer ranges. Do not fire at enemies that are about to move to cover, and make sure to fire multiple missiles at once in order to deal maximum damage. Because the Hellfire is laser guided, multiple missiles can be fired at once. They should be fired at intervals of 5-10 seconds, where between missiles the Apache can switch to a new ground target. This will allow for the quick destruction of multiple enemies. This tactic can be incredibly effective. Although the time to target for the most recently fired Hellfire is available on the HUD, pilots will have to keep track of all the missiles they have fired by memory and quick calculations.
[[File:HellfireSequenceDemonstration.mp4|left|frameless]]
Combatting enemy anti-aircraft vehicles can be a challenge. Always remain in cover and move unpredictably in combat. Use the radar warning receiver to obtain the general direction of enemy AA, and then attack with a Hellfire. An effective strategy is to fire a Hellfire, break optical lock to gain cover and avoid counterfire, and then pop back up and get lock again several seconds before the Hellfire hits. This strategy if applied correctly will result in a hit, as the Hellfire is smart enough to begin following the laser designator again once the Apache re-obtains its lock.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

*Excellent ground attack armaments (Hellfire missiles and 30 mm autocannon)
*Excellent air-to-air capability with the Stinger missile and radar
*Adequate speed and manoeuvrability
*Advanced countermeasure system with radar warning receiver (RWR) and Missile Alert Warning
*Longbow radar
*High countermeasure count (x180, built in)

'''Cons:'''

*Hellfire missiles have limited self-guidance abilities from certain positions
*Hellfire missiles need line-of-sight for guidance.
*Easily destroyed by main adversary ([[Ka-50]] & [[Ka-52]]) and enemy aircraft

*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the helicopter in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|irF2YOn8zOs|'''AH-64 Apache Ultimate Review''' - ''Bob Dickinson''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[AH-64 (Family)]]

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Israel helicopters}}

Peten

2023-10-22T13:38:01Z

U17301481: formatting

{{About
| about = Israeli attack helicopter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = AH-64 (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ah_64a_iaf
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Heli-Flight}}

''The AH-64A Peten is one of the fastest helicopters in the game, only trumped by the british G-LYNX and the likes of the Mi-24 (Family). It has two powerful engines, which gives the Peten a good climb rate. Manoeuvrability at high speed is excellent too, being able to even execute barrel rolls without losing too much altitude; a feat many helicopters can only dream of. Overall it offers great flight performance and feels right at home for both newcomers and experienced players.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 1,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
|-
! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 270 || 251 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Heli-Armour}}
''The AH-64A Peten has only limited armour protection installed with bullet proof glass only being installed on the pilot windscreen. The helicopter uses Kevlar boron carbide, composite martial which is limited only to instrument, floor and side panels around the cockpit. It does not provide the same level of protection as seen on other helicopters such as the [[Mi-28N]].''

* ''Bullet proof glass installed only for the pilot - 22 mm thick.''
* ''Installation of Kevlar boron carbide, composite martial only on the: Seats, cockpit side panels, Gunner floor panels and pilot instrument panel - 20 mm thick.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Heli-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Offensive}}

{{main|M230E-1 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between three presets:
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon (1,200 rpg)
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon + 60 x countermeasures
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon + 60 x countermeasures + IRCM

''The Peten has the same 30 mm cannon as the other Apaches in the game currently, and only has one belt choice. The belt carries only HEDP rounds, and can penetrate up to 51 mm of armour. The gun is fast firing, but relatively inaccurate, so shooting in close range is the best way to hit your target. If you don't mind the inaccuracy of the gun, it is a very good weapon all around. It can be locked in gunner and 3rd person view and will automatically track the target.''

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Suspended}}

{{main|AGM-114B Hellfire|ATAS (AIM-92)|Hydra-70 M247}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 76 x Hydra-70 M247 rockets
* 4 x AGM-114B Hellfire missiles
* 8 x AGM-114B Hellfire missiles
* 16 x AGM-114B Hellfire missiles
* 4 x ATAS (AIM-92) missiles

''The Peten can carry up to 16 Hellfire ATGMs with over 1,000 mm of pen, 76 Hydra rockets with over 200 mm of pen, or 4 Stinger AAMs. The weapons are carried on the stub wings and can be carried in several different variations. The Hellfires are excellent missiles, although since the player must keep "painting" a laser beam on the target, misses can occur if the target lock slips. The Hydra rockets are generally very effective, especially when used with the ballistic computer. 76 rockets is enough for 3-5 tanks if they are used by an experienced player. However, the Stinger AAMs are not the best in the game by any stretch, with relatively little explosive mass and only a 10G overload. They may take 2-3 hits to damage aircraft, and heavily armoured helicopters such as the Mi-28 may survive multiple hits.''

==== Custom loadout options ====
{| class="wikitable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
|-
! !! width="7%" | 1 !! width="7%" | 2 !! width="7%" | 3 !! width="7%" | 4 !! width="7%" | 5 !! width="7%" | 6
| rowspan="4" width="20%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_{{PAGENAME}}.png]]</div>
|-
! Hydra-70 M247 rockets
| || 19 || 19 || 19 || 19 ||
|-
! AGM-114B Hellfire missiles
| || 2, 4 || 2, 4 || 2, 4 || 2, 4 ||
|-
! ATAS (AIM-92) missiles
| 2 || || || || || 2
|-
|}

=== Defensive systems ===
The '''''Peten''''' has the following Defensive systems installed:

* '''Countermeasures''' - 60 built-in
* '''AN/APR-39''' - Radar Warning Receiver (RWR); C-M detectable bands; track and launch detection
* '''AN/AVR-2''' - Laser Warning Receiver (LWR)
* '''AN/AAR-47''' - Missile Approach Warning system (MAW)
* '''AIM-92 Stinger''' - AIM 92 Stinger missiles

''All 3 major defensive sensors (RWR, LWR and MAW) come standard with the helicopter and are essential to surviving enemy attacks. The Peten comes stock with 60 countermeasures in the form of just flares, however, in order to select a mix of flares and chaff, the adequate modification [Flares/Chaff (tier I)] will have to be researched. The AIM-92 Stinger module can be researched at tier III and adds an extra layer of defence against both enemy aircraft and other helicopters. The Stinger launchers are mounted in pairs on the wingtips and do not compromise any hardpoint space for other weaponry.''

== Usage in battles ==

'''Overview:'''

The AH-64A Peten is an excellent helicopter for attacking ground targets, and can also hold its own against many enemy aircraft. Through adequate use of cover, teamwork, and game sense, the Apache can easily dismantle enemy teams. An Apache pilot must understand all of the tools at their disposal. The only difference between the Peten and the tech tree [[AH-64A]] is that the Peten lacks access to the AIM-9L Sidewinders as an ordnance option.

The Apache has an arsenal of weapons. The most effective anti-tank weapon in the Apache's arsenal is the AGM-114 Hellfire, which uses a top attack trajectory to destroy ground vehicles. There is functionally very little difference between the AGM-114B and K variants, used on early and late Apaches respectively.

'''Staying Alive:'''

Flying the Apache effectively can be more difficult than most players would imagine, even with all the sensors it offers. Trying to deal with threats from enemy air and ground vehicles while continuing to attack the enemy team can be difficult. If distracted, a pilot can quickly lose situational awareness. Being successful in the Apache requires situational awareness above all else. Due to the fragility of the helicopter, any blindspot can lead to a quick and sudden death as even with the MAW one might not always be in an adequate position to defend against the incoming threat. Additionally, the mobility of the Apache is adequate but not impressive, so evasive manoeuvres are not always effective; after all, it is still a helicopter.

Using cover is a very important part of staying alive in the Apache. Always stay behind a hill or building in ground battles. When exposing yourself in order to fire on the enemy, be mindful to not gain too much altitude. Most importantly, ''Always listen to your RWR.'' If you hear an alarm, take evasive action immediately.

Additionally, it is important to know when to use flares. Flares are extremely effective against heat-seeking missiles, but useless against any other missiles. It is the responsibility of the Apache pilot to recognize the threat and decide whether to use flares or not.

'''Air-to-Air (Stinger and Gun):'''

The Apache is surprisingly potent in air-to-air combat. Engagements should be conducted primarily through the use of the AIM-92 Stinger missiles. The Stinger is a simple but effective air-to-air missile. It has an excellent seeker head and can obtain all aspect lock on almost any air target within 3-5 km (even propeller aircraft with a low heat signature). However, the Stinger can be easily fooled by flares or outmanoeuvred by a fast enemy aircraft. The best way to use the Stinger against enemy aircraft is when they are heading directly towards you. If fired at the right second, most enemies will struggle to dodge a Stinger.

If the enemy gets close, the 30 mm autocannon can be extremely effective. The gun will automatically aim with optical lock, so Apache pilots can aim accurately while taking evasive manoeuvres.

'''Close Range Air-to-Ground (Gun and Rockets):'''

At close range, the Apache has excellent offensive capability. The 30 mm autocannon is incredibly accurate even at surprisingly far distances. This cannon uses a High Explosive Dual Purpose round that can engage lightly armoured targets. Rocket pods can also be used, with the CCIP computer helping maintain accuracy even at further distances. Be careful when trying to use the Hellfire missile at close range. It can do a direct attack at closer ranges (rather than its usual top attack) but if fired at an odd angle, it may not have time to manoeuvre onto the target if fired at closer ranges.

The problem with trying to engage at close range is that doing so will put the Apache in huge amounts of danger. Enemy tanks will be able to quickly destroy the Apache with their main guns or anti-aircraft machine guns.

'''Long Range Air-to-Ground (Hellfire):'''
[[File:HellfireTrajectory.png|thumb]]
At longer ranges, the Hellfire missile can be used to full effect. The Hellfire will guide on its target as shown in the attached diagram. This is known as top attack. Being that it takes this path to the enemy target, the Hellfire can take upward of 30 seconds to reach its target at longer ranges. Do not fire at enemies that are about to move to cover, and make sure to fire multiple missiles at once in order to deal maximum damage. Because the Hellfire is laser guided, multiple missiles can be fired at once. They should be fired at intervals of 5-10 seconds, where between missiles the Apache can switch to a new ground target. This will allow for the quick destruction of multiple enemies. This tactic can be incredibly effective. Although the time to target for the most recently fired Hellfire is available on the HUD, pilots will have to keep track of all the missiles they have fired by memory and quick calculations.
[[File:HellfireSequenceDemonstration.mp4|left|thumb]]
Combatting enemy anti-aircraft vehicles can be a challenge. Always remain in cover and move unpredictably in combat. Use the radar warning receiver to obtain the general direction of enemy AA, and then attack with a Hellfire. An effective strategy is to fire a Hellfire, break optical lock to gain cover and avoid counterfire, and then pop back up and get lock again several seconds before the Hellfire hits. This strategy if applied correctly will result in a hit, as the Hellfire is smart enough to begin following the laser designator again once the Apache re-obtains its lock.

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* High top speed and manoeuvrability
* Good air-to-air capability with autotracking 30mm gun and Stinger missiles
* Good 30mm gun with HEDP belts; great against anything, especially fragile vehicles
* Excellent secondary armament; can carry up to 16 Hellfires on top of 4 AAMs
* Advanced countermeasure system with radar warning receiver (RWR) and Missile Alert Warning
* Well armoured for a helicopter; may survive hits from SAMs
* Excellent thermals and zoom

'''Cons:'''

* Stinger air-to-air missiles don't turn well, aren't reliable, and don't have enough explosive mass to guarantee a kill upon a hit
* Hellfires are difficult to guide to air targets due to their trajectory
* Easily destroyed by main adversary ([[Ka-50]] & [[Ka-52]]) and enemy aircraft
* 30 mm cannon is relatively inaccurate at range

*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the helicopter in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ah_64a_iaf Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|irF2YOn8zOs|'''AH-64 Apache Ultimate Review''' - ''Bob Dickinson''}}

== See also ==


;[[AH-64 (Family)|Related development]]

* [[AH-64A Peten (USA)]]
* [[AH-64A Peten (Israel)]]

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Israel helicopters}}

Saraph

2023-10-22T13:34:47Z

U17301481: Added Defensive systems; grammar fixes; formatting

{{Specs-Card
|code=ah_64d_i_saraph
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Heli-Flight}}

The AH-64D-I Saraph provides great manoeuvrability, incredible acceleration and overall has a great speed of up to 319 km/h in arcade and 295 km/h in realistic and simulator game modes. It is as fast as the American [[AH-64D]] but the title of fastest Apache belongs to the British Army variant called the [[AH Mk.1]]. The IDF AH-64D-I is able to do manoeuvres other helicopters can only dream about, from barrel roles, flips to loops. This allows it to evade enemy missiles with relative ease and surprise enemy tankers who will be mostly helpless against it.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 1,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
|-
! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 272 || 253 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Heli-Armour}}


The AH-64D-I Apache "Saraph" has only limited armour protection installed, with bullet proof glass only being installed on the pilot windscreen. The helicopter uses Kevlar boron carbide, composite martial which is limited only to instrument, floor and side panels around the cockpit. It does not provide the same level of protection as seen on other helicopters such as the [[Mi-28N]].

*Bullet proof glass installed only for the pilot - 22 mm thick.
*Installation of Kevlar boron carbide, composite martial only on the: Seats, cockpit side panels, Gunner floor panels and pilot instrument panel - 20 mm thick.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Heli-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" |[[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
!CCIP (Guns)!!CCIP (Rockets)!!CCIP (Bombs)
|-
|{{Tick}}||{{Tick}}||{{Cross}}
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Offensive}}

{{main|M230E-1 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon, chin turret (1,200 rpg)
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon + 180 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Suspended}}

{{main|AGM-114K Hellfire II|ATAS (AIM-92)|Hydra-70 M247}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 76 x Hydra-70 M247 rockets
* 4 x AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
* 8 x AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
* 16 x AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
* 4 x ATAS (AIM-92) missiles

==== Custom loadout options ====
{| class="wikitable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
|-
! !! width="7%" | 1 !! width="7%" | 2 !! width="7%" | 3 !! width="7%" | 4 !! width="7%" | 5 !! width="7%" | 6
| rowspan="4" width="20%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_AH-64A_(Israel).png]]</div>
|-
! Hydra-70 M247 rockets
| || 19 || 19 || 19 || 19 ||
|-
! AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
| || 2, 4 || 2, 4 || 2, 4 || 2, 4 ||
|-
! ATAS (AIM-92) missiles
| 2 || || || || || 2
|-
|}
The '''''Saraph''''' has the following Defensive systems installed:

* '''Countermeasures''' - 180 built-in
* '''AN/APR-39''' - Radar Warning Receiver (RWR); C-M detectable bands; track and launch detection
* '''AN/AVR-2''' - Laser Warning Receiver (LWR)
* '''AN/AAR-47''' - Missile Approach Warning system (MAW)
* '''AIM-92 Stinger''' - AIM 92 Stinger missiles

All 3 major defensive sensors (RWR, LWR and MAW) come standard with the helicopter and are essential to surviving enemy attacks. The Peten comes stock with 180 countermeasures in the form of just flares, however, in order to select a mix of flares and chaff, the adequate modification [Flares/Chaff (tier I)] will have to be researched. The AIM-92 Stinger module can be researched at tier III and adds an extra layer of defence against both enemy aircraft and other helicopters. The Stinger launchers are mounted in pairs on the wingtips and do not compromise any hardpoint space for other weaponry.

== Usage in battles ==

'''Overview'''

The AH-64D-I is an Israeli modified version of the venerable [[AH-64D]] and in turn very similar to the [[AH-64A]] Apache. The differences between it and the A are the lack of an option to carry AIM-9L missiles, the new Longbow radar, improved Hellfires, and an improved ECM package. It is also slightly different to the American D version as it lacks the laser guided APKWS rockets. The Apache is an excellent helicopter for attacking ground targets, and can also hold its own against many enemy aircraft. Through adequate use of cover, teamwork, and game sense, the Apache can easily dismantle enemy teams. An Apache pilot must understand all of the tools at their disposal.

The Apache has an arsenal of weapons. The most effective anti-tank weapon in the Apache's arsenal is the AGM-114 Hellfire, which uses a top attack trajectory to destroy ground vehicles. There is functionally very little difference between the AGM-114B and K variants, used on early and late Apaches respectively.

'''Staying alive:'''

Flying the Apache effectively can be more difficult than most players would imagine, even with all the sensors it offers. Trying to deal with threats from enemy air and ground vehicles while continuing to attack the enemy team can be difficult. If distracted, a pilot can quickly lose situational awareness. Being successful in the Apache requires situational awareness above all else. Due to the fragility of the helicopter, any blindspot can lead to a quick and sudden death as even with the MAW one might not always be in an adequate position to defend against the incoming threat. Additionally, the mobility of the Apache is adequate but not impressive, so evasive manoeuvres are not always effective; after all, it is still a helicopter.

Using cover is a very important part of staying alive in the Apache. Always stay behind a hill or building in ground battles. When exposing yourself in order to fire on the enemy, be mindful to not gain too much altitude. Most importantly, always listen to your RWR and MAW. If you hear an alarm, take evasive action immediately.

The biggest improvement of the later Apache variants is the ability to mount the Longbow radar system. This system, if used properly, will help maintain situational awareness.

Additionally, it is important to know when to use flares. Flares are extremely effective against heat-seeking missiles, but useless against any other missiles. It is the responsibility of the Apache pilot to recognize the threat and decide whether to use flares or not. For Apaches with MAW (missile alert warning), there is an option for flares to be dispensed automatically.

'''Using the Longbow radar'''

The radar of the Apache should be used as a secondary tool when engaging ground targets. The radar is not effective in obtaining target lock for ground vehicles. The AGM-114L radar guided Hellfire is not in the game, so guidance of Hellfires should be done by using the FLIR thermal imaging camera to lase targets. However, the radar is still useful in detecting enemy aircraft. By using the multi-function menu to switch radar mode, the radar will begin to search for air rather than ground targets. Keeping track of enemy aircraft is vital to survival in the Apache, as any plane can make quick work of the Apache if the helicopter is unprepared.

'''Air-to-air (Stinger and gun)'''

The Apache is surprisingly potent in air-to-air combat. Engagements should be conducted primarily through the use of the Stinger missile. The Stinger is a simple but effective air-to-air missile. It has an excellent seeker head and can obtain all aspect lock on almost any air target within 3-5 km (even propeller aircraft with a low heat signature). However, the Stinger can be easily fooled by flares or outmanoeuvred by a fast enemy aircraft. The best way to use the Stinger against enemy aircraft is when they are heading directly towards you. If fired at the right second, most enemies will struggle to dodge a Stinger.

If the enemy gets close, the 30 mm autocannon can be extremely effective. The gun will automatically aim with optical lock, so Apache pilots can aim accurately while taking evasive manoeuvres.

'''Close-range air-to-ground (gun and rockets)'''

At close range, the Apache has excellent offensive capability. The 30 mm autocannon is incredibly accurate even at surprisingly far distances. This cannon uses a High Explosive Dual Purpose round that can engage lightly armoured targets. Rocket pods can also be used, with the CCIP computer helping maintain accuracy even at further distances. Be careful when trying to use the Hellfire missile at close range. It can do a direct attack at closer ranges (rather than its usual top attack) but if fired at an odd angle, it may not have time to manoeuvre onto the target if fired at closer ranges.

The problem with trying to engage at close range is that doing so will put the Apache in huge amounts of danger. Enemy tanks will be able to quickly destroy the Apache with their main guns or anti-aircraft machine guns.
[[File:HellfireTrajectory.png|thumb]]
'''Long-range air-to-ground (Hellfire)'''

At longer ranges, the Hellfire missile can be used to full effect. The Hellfire will guide on its target as shown in the attached diagram. This is known as top attack. Being that it takes this path to the enemy target, the Hellfire can take upward of 30 seconds to reach its target at longer ranges. Do not fire at enemies that are about to move to cover, and make sure to fire multiple missiles at once in order to deal maximum damage. Because the Hellfire is laser guided, multiple missiles can be fired at once. They should be fired at intervals of 5-10 seconds, where between missiles the Apache can switch to a new ground target. This will allow for the quick destruction of multiple enemies. This tactic can be incredibly effective. Although the time to target for the most recently fired Hellfire is available on the HUD, pilots will have to keep track of all the missiles they have fired by memory and quick calculations.
[[File:HellfireSequenceDemonstration.mp4|left|frameless]]
Combatting enemy anti-aircraft vehicles can be a challenge. Always remain in cover and move unpredictably in combat. Use the radar warning receiver to obtain the general direction of enemy AA, and then attack with a Hellfire. An effective strategy is to fire a Hellfire, break optical lock to gain cover and avoid counterfire, and then pop back up and get lock again several seconds before the Hellfire hits. This strategy if applied correctly will result in a hit, as the Hellfire is smart enough to begin following the laser designator again once the Apache re-obtains its lock.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

*Excellent ground attack armaments (Hellfire missiles and 30 mm autocannon)
*Excellent air-to-air capability with the Stinger missile and radar
*Adequate speed and manoeuvrability
*Advanced countermeasure system with radar warning receiver (RWR) and Missile Alert Warning
*Longbow radar
*High countermeasure count (x180, built in)

'''Cons:'''

*Hellfire missiles have limited self-guidance abilities from certain positions
*Hellfire missiles need line-of-sight for guidance.
*Easily destroyed by main adversary ([[Ka-50]] & [[Ka-52]]) and enemy aircraft

*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the helicopter in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|irF2YOn8zOs|'''AH-64 Apache Ultimate Review''' - ''Bob Dickinson''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[AH-64 (Family)]]

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Israel helicopters}}

User:U17301481

2023-10-21T22:20:48Z

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Outside of that, I sometimes make and edit [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tos_aOyLCmg videos] on the game, but I rarely post them on my [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC19NAecBZKZCdOONdbHr3RA YT channel].

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[[File:Netz over Sun City.png|thumb|An F-16A "Netz" over the Sun City map]]

File:Netz over Sun City.png

2023-10-21T22:18:39Z

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an F-16A Block 10 "Netz" over the Sun City map

Saraph

2023-10-20T21:58:39Z

U17301481: Adjusted Staying alive section

{{Specs-Card
|code=ah_64d_i_saraph
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Heli-Flight}}

The AH-64D-I Saraph provides great manoeuvrability, incredible acceleration and overall has a great speed of up to 319 km/h in arcade and 295 km/h in realistic and simulator game modes. It is as fast as the American [[AH-64D]] but the title of fastest Apache belongs to the British Army variant called the [[AH Mk.1]]. The IDF AH-64D-I is able to do manoeuvres other helicopters can only dream about, from barrel roles, flips to loops. This allows it to evade enemy missiles with relative ease and surpriseenemy tankers who will be mostly helpless against it.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 1,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
|-
! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 272 || 253 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Heli-Armour}}


The AH-64D-I Apache "Saraph" has only limited armour protection installed, with bullet proof glass only being installed on the pilot windscreen. The helicopter uses Kevlar boron carbide, composite martial which is limited only to instrument, floor and side panels around the cockpit. It does not provide the same level of protection as seen on other helicopters such as the [[Mi-28N]].

*Bullet proof glass installed only for the pilot - 22 mm thick.
*Installation of Kevlar boron carbide, composite martial only on the: Seats, cockpit side panels, Gunner floor panels and pilot instrument panel - 20 mm thick.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Heli-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" |[[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
!CCIP (Guns)!!CCIP (Rockets)!!CCIP (Bombs)
|-
|{{Tick}}||{{Tick}}||{{Cross}}
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Offensive}}

{{main|M230E-1 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon, chin turret (1,200 rpg)
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon + 180 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Suspended}}

{{main|AGM-114K Hellfire II|ATAS (AIM-92)|Hydra-70 M247}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 76 x Hydra-70 M247 rockets
* 4 x AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
* 8 x AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
* 16 x AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
* 4 x ATAS (AIM-92) missiles

==== Custom loadout options ====
{| class="wikitable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
|-
! !! width="7%" | 1 !! width="7%" | 2 !! width="7%" | 3 !! width="7%" | 4 !! width="7%" | 5 !! width="7%" | 6
| rowspan="4" width="20%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_AH-64A_(Israel).png]]</div>
|-
! Hydra-70 M247 rockets
| || 19 || 19 || 19 || 19 ||
|-
! AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
| || 2, 4 || 2, 4 || 2, 4 || 2, 4 ||
|-
! ATAS (AIM-92) missiles
| 2 || || || || || 2
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

'''Overview'''

The AH-64D-I is an Israeli modified version of the venerable [[AH-64D]] and in turn very similar to the [[AH-64A]] Apache. The differences between it and the A are the lack of an option to carry AIM-9L missiles, the new Longbow radar, improved Hellfires, and an improved ECM package. It is also slightly different to the American D version as it lacks the laser guided APKWS rockets. The Apache is an excellent helicopter for attacking ground targets, and can also hold its own against many enemy aircraft. Through adequate use of cover, teamwork, and game sense, the Apache can easily dismantle enemy teams. An Apache pilot must understand all of the tools at their disposal.

The Apache has an arsenal of weapons. The most effective anti-tank weapon in the Apache's arsenal is the AGM-114 Hellfire, which uses a top attack trajectory to destroy ground vehicles. There is functionally very little difference between the AGM-114B and K variants, used on early and late Apaches respectively.

'''Staying alive:'''

Flying the Apache effectively can be more difficult than most players would imagine, even with all the sensors it offers. Trying to deal with threats from enemy air and ground vehicles while continuing to attack the enemy team can be difficult. If distracted, a pilot can quickly lose situational awareness. Being successful in the Apache requires situational awareness above all else. Due to the fragility of the helicopter, any blindspot can lead to a quick and sudden death as even with the MAW one might not always be in an adequate position to defend against the incoming threat. Additionally, the mobility of the Apache is adequate but not impressive, so evasive manoeuvres are not always effective; after all, it is still a helicopter.

Using cover is a very important part of staying alive in the Apache. Always stay behind a hill or building in ground battles. When exposing yourself in order to fire on the enemy, be mindful to not gain too much altitude. Most importantly, always listen to your RWR and MAW. If you hear an alarm, take evasive action immediately.

The biggest improvement of the later Apache variants is the ability to mount the Longbow radar system. This system, if used properly, will help maintain situational awareness.

Additionally, it is important to know when to use flares. Flares are extremely effective against heat-seeking missiles, but useless against any other missiles. It is the responsibility of the Apache pilot to recognize the threat and decide whether to use flares or not. For Apaches with MAW (missile alert warning), there is an option for flares to be dispensed automatically.

'''Using the Longbow radar'''

The radar of the Apache should be used as a secondary tool when engaging ground targets. The radar is not effective in obtaining target lock for ground vehicles. The AGM-114L radar guided Hellfire is not in the game, so guidance of Hellfires should be done by using the FLIR thermal imaging camera to lase targets. However, the radar is still useful in detecting enemy aircraft. By using the multi-function menu to switch radar mode, the radar will begin to search for air rather than ground targets. Keeping track of enemy aircraft is vital to survival in the Apache, as any plane can make quick work of the Apache if the helicopter is unprepared.

'''Air-to-air (Stinger and gun)'''

The Apache is surprisingly potent in air-to-air combat. Engagements should be conducted primarily through the use of the Stinger missile. The Stinger is a simple but effective air-to-air missile. It has an excellent seeker head and can obtain all aspect lock on almost any air target within 3-5 km (even propeller aircraft with a low heat signature). However, the Stinger can be easily fooled by flares or outmanoeuvred by a fast enemy aircraft. The best way to use the Stinger against enemy aircraft is when they are heading directly towards you. If fired at the right second, most enemies will struggle to dodge a Stinger.

If the enemy gets close, the 30 mm autocannon can be extremely effective. The gun will automatically aim with optical lock, so Apache pilots can aim accurately while taking evasive manoeuvres.

'''Close-range air-to-ground (gun and rockets)'''

At close range, the Apache has excellent offensive capability. The 30 mm autocannon is incredibly accurate even at surprisingly far distances. This cannon uses a High Explosive Dual Purpose round that can engage lightly armoured targets. Rocket pods can also be used, with the CCIP computer helping maintain accuracy even at further distances. Be careful when trying to use the Hellfire missile at close range. It can do a direct attack at closer ranges (rather than its usual top attack) but if fired at an odd angle, it may not have time to manoeuvre onto the target if fired at closer ranges.

The problem with trying to engage at close range is that doing so will put the Apache in huge amounts of danger. Enemy tanks will be able to quickly destroy the Apache with their main guns or anti-aircraft machine guns.
[[File:HellfireTrajectory.png|thumb]]
'''Long-range air-to-ground (Hellfire)'''

At longer ranges, the Hellfire missile can be used to full effect. The Hellfire will guide on its target as shown in the attached diagram. This is known as top attack. Being that it takes this path to the enemy target, the Hellfire can take upward of 30 seconds to reach its target at longer ranges. Do not fire at enemies that are about to move to cover, and make sure to fire multiple missiles at once in order to deal maximum damage. Because the Hellfire is laser guided, multiple missiles can be fired at once. They should be fired at intervals of 5-10 seconds, where between missiles the Apache can switch to a new ground target. This will allow for the quick destruction of multiple enemies. This tactic can be incredibly effective. Although the time to target for the most recently fired Hellfire is available on the HUD, pilots will have to keep track of all the missiles they have fired by memory and quick calculations.
[[File:HellfireSequenceDemonstration.mp4|left|frameless]]
Combatting enemy anti-aircraft vehicles can be a challenge. Always remain in cover and move unpredictably in combat. Use the radar warning receiver to obtain the general direction of enemy AA, and then attack with a Hellfire. An effective strategy is to fire a Hellfire, break optical lock to gain cover and avoid counterfire, and then pop back up and get lock again several seconds before the Hellfire hits. This strategy if applied correctly will result in a hit, as the Hellfire is smart enough to begin following the laser designator again once the Apache re-obtains its lock.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

*Excellent ground attack armaments (Hellfire missiles and 30 mm autocannon)
*Excellent air-to-air capability with the Stinger missile and radar
*Adequate speed and manoeuvrability
*Advanced countermeasure system with radar warning receiver (RWR) and Missile Alert Warning
*Longbow radar
*High countermeasure count (x180, built in)

'''Cons:'''

*Hellfire missiles have limited self-guidance abilities from certain positions
*Hellfire missiles need line-of-sight for guidance.
*Easily destroyed by main adversary ([[Ka-50]] & [[Ka-52]]) and enemy aircraft

*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the helicopter in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|irF2YOn8zOs|'''AH-64 Apache Ultimate Review''' - ''Bob Dickinson''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[AH-64 (Family)]]

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Israel helicopters}}

Peten

2023-10-20T21:50:50Z

U17301481: Copied and adjusted / Added: Flight performance, Survivability and armour, Armaments, Defensive systems, Usage in battles, Pros and cons

{{About
| about = Israeli attack helicopter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = AH-64 (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=ah_64a_iaf
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Heli-Flight}}

''The AH-64A Peten is one of the fastest helicopters in the game, only trumped by the british [[G-LYNX]] and the likes of the [[Mi-24 (Family)]]. It has two powerful engines, which gives the Peten a good climb rate. Manoeuvrability at high speed is excellent too, being able to even execute barrel rolls without losing too much altitude; a feat many helicopters can only dream of.'' Overall it offers great flight performance and feels right at home for both newcomers and experienced players.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 1,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
|-
! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 270 || 251 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Heli-Armour}}
''The AH-64A Peten has only limited armour protection installed with bullet proof glass only being installed on the pilot windscreen. The helicopter uses Kevlar boron carbide, composite martial which is limited only to instrument, floor and side panels around the cockpit. It does not provide the same level of protection as seen on other helicopters such as the [[Mi-28N]].''

* ''Bullet proof glass installed only for the pilot - 22 mm thick.''
* ''Installation of Kevlar boron carbide, composite martial only on the: Seats, cockpit side panels, Gunner floor panels and pilot instrument panel - 20 mm thick.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Heli-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Offensive}}

{{main|M230E-1 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between three presets:
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon (1,200 rpg)
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon + 60 x countermeasures
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon + 60 x countermeasures + IRCM

The Peten has the same 30 mm cannon as the other Apaches in the game currently, and only has one belt choice. The belt carries only HEDP rounds, and can penetrate up to 51 mm of armour. The gun is fast firing, but relatively inaccurate, so shooting in close range is the best way to hit your target. If you don't mind the inaccuracy of the gun, it is a very good weapon all around. It can be locked in gunner and 3rd person view and will automatically track the target.

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Suspended}}

{{main|AGM-114B Hellfire|ATAS (AIM-92)|Hydra-70 M247}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 76 x Hydra-70 M247 rockets
* 4 x AGM-114B Hellfire missiles
* 8 x AGM-114B Hellfire missiles
* 16 x AGM-114B Hellfire missiles
* 4 x ATAS (AIM-92) missiles

The Peten can carry up to 16 Hellfire ATGMs with over 1,000 mm of pen, 76 Hydra rockets with over 200 mm of pen, or 4 Stinger AAMs. The weapons are carried on the stub wings and can be carried in several different variations. The Hellfires are excellent missiles, although since the player must keep "painting" a laser beam on the target, misses can occur if the target lock slips. The Hydra rockets are generally very effective, especially when used with the ballistic computer. 76 rockets is enough for 3-5 tanks if they are used by an experienced player. However, the Stinger AAMs are not the best in the game by any stretch, with relatively little explosive mass and only a 10G overload. They may take 2-3 hits to damage aircraft, and heavily armoured helicopters such as the Mi-28 may survive multiple hits.

==== Custom loadout options ====
{| class="wikitable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
|-
! !! width="7%" | 1 !! width="7%" | 2 !! width="7%" | 3 !! width="7%" | 4 !! width="7%" | 5 !! width="7%" | 6
| rowspan="4" width="20%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_{{PAGENAME}}.png]]</div>
|-
! Hydra-70 M247 rockets
| || 19 || 19 || 19 || 19 ||
|-
! AGM-114B Hellfire missiles
| || 2, 4 || 2, 4 || 2, 4 || 2, 4 ||
|-
! ATAS (AIM-92) missiles
| 2 || || || || || 2
|-
|}

=== Defensive systems ===
The '''''Peten''''' has the following Defensive systems installed:

* '''Countermeasures''' - 60 built-in
* '''AN/APR-39''' - Radar Warning Receiver (RWR); C-M detectable bands; track and launch detection
* '''AN/AVR-2''' - Laser Warning Receiver (LWR)
* '''AN/AAR-47''' - Missile Approach Warning system (MAW)
* '''AIM-92 Stinger''' - AIM 92 Stinger missiles

All 3 major defensive sensors (RWR, LWR and MAW) come standard with the helicopter and are essential to surviving enemy attacks. The Peten comes stock with 60 countermeasures in the form of just flares, however, in order to select a mix of flares and chaff, the adequate modification [Flares/Chaff (tier I)] will have to be researched. The AIM-92 Stinger module can be researched at tier III and adds an extra layer of defence against both enemy aircraft and other helicopters. The Stinger launchers are mounted in pairs on the wingtips and do not compromise any hardpoint space for other weaponry.

== Usage in battles ==

'''Overview:'''

The AH-64A Peten is an excellent helicopter for attacking ground targets, and can also hold its own against many enemy aircraft. Through adequate use of cover, teamwork, and game sense, the Apache can easily dismantle enemy teams. An Apache pilot must understand all of the tools at their disposal. The only difference between the Peten and the tech tree [[AH-64A]] is that the Peten lacks access to the AIM-9L Sidewinders as an ordnance option.

The Apache has an arsenal of weapons. The most effective anti-tank weapon in the Apache's arsenal is the AGM-114 Hellfire, which uses a top attack trajectory to destroy ground vehicles. There is functionally very little difference between the AGM-114B and K variants, used on early and late Apaches respectively.

'''Staying Alive:'''

Flying the Apache effectively can be more difficult than most players would imagine, even with all the sensors it offers. Trying to deal with threats from enemy air and ground vehicles while continuing to attack the enemy team can be difficult. If distracted, a pilot can quickly lose situational awareness. Being successful in the Apache requires situational awareness above all else. Due to the fragility of the helicopter, any blindspot can lead to a quick and sudden death as even with the MAW one might not always be in an adequate position to defend against the incoming threat. Additionally, the mobility of the Apache is adequate but not impressive, so evasive manoeuvres are not always effective; after all, it is still a helicopter.

Using cover is a very important part of staying alive in the Apache. Always stay behind a hill or building in ground battles. When exposing yourself in order to fire on the enemy, be mindful to not gain too much altitude. Most importantly, ''Always listen to your RWR.'' If you hear an alarm, take evasive action immediately.

Additionally, it is important to know when to use flares. Flares are extremely effective against heat-seeking missiles, but useless against any other missiles. It is the responsibility of the Apache pilot to recognize the threat and decide whether to use flares or not.

'''Air-to-Air (Stinger and Gun):'''

The Apache is surprisingly potent in air-to-air combat. Engagements should be conducted primarily through the use of the AIM-92 Stinger missiles. The Stinger is a simple but effective air-to-air missile. It has an excellent seeker head and can obtain all aspect lock on almost any air target within 3-5 km (even propeller aircraft with a low heat signature). However, the Stinger can be easily fooled by flares or outmanoeuvred by a fast enemy aircraft. The best way to use the Stinger against enemy aircraft is when they are heading directly towards you. If fired at the right second, most enemies will struggle to dodge a Stinger.

If the enemy gets close, the 30 mm autocannon can be extremely effective. The gun will automatically aim with optical lock, so Apache pilots can aim accurately while taking evasive manoeuvres.

'''Close Range Air-to-Ground (Gun and Rockets):'''

At close range, the Apache has excellent offensive capability. The 30 mm autocannon is incredibly accurate even at surprisingly far distances. This cannon uses a High Explosive Dual Purpose round that can engage lightly armoured targets. Rocket pods can also be used, with the CCIP computer helping maintain accuracy even at further distances. Be careful when trying to use the Hellfire missile at close range. It can do a direct attack at closer ranges (rather than its usual top attack) but if fired at an odd angle, it may not have time to manoeuvre onto the target if fired at closer ranges.

The problem with trying to engage at close range is that doing so will put the Apache in huge amounts of danger. Enemy tanks will be able to quickly destroy the Apache with their main guns or anti-aircraft machine guns.

'''Long Range Air-to-Ground (Hellfire):'''
[[File:HellfireTrajectory.png|thumb]]
At longer ranges, the Hellfire missile can be used to full effect. The Hellfire will guide on its target as shown in the attached diagram. This is known as top attack. Being that it takes this path to the enemy target, the Hellfire can take upward of 30 seconds to reach its target at longer ranges. Do not fire at enemies that are about to move to cover, and make sure to fire multiple missiles at once in order to deal maximum damage. Because the Hellfire is laser guided, multiple missiles can be fired at once. They should be fired at intervals of 5-10 seconds, where between missiles the Apache can switch to a new ground target. This will allow for the quick destruction of multiple enemies. This tactic can be incredibly effective. Although the time to target for the most recently fired Hellfire is available on the HUD, pilots will have to keep track of all the missiles they have fired by memory and quick calculations.
[[File:HellfireSequenceDemonstration.mp4|left|thumb]]
Combatting enemy anti-aircraft vehicles can be a challenge. Always remain in cover and move unpredictably in combat. Use the radar warning receiver to obtain the general direction of enemy AA, and then attack with a Hellfire. An effective strategy is to fire a Hellfire, break optical lock to gain cover and avoid counterfire, and then pop back up and get lock again several seconds before the Hellfire hits. This strategy if applied correctly will result in a hit, as the Hellfire is smart enough to begin following the laser designator again once the Apache re-obtains its lock.

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* High top speed and manoeuvrability
* Good air-to-air capability with autotracking 30mm gun and Stinger missiles
* Good 30mm gun with HEDP belts; great against anything, especially fragile vehicles
* Excellent secondary armament; can carry up to 16 Hellfires on top of 4 AAMs
* Advanced countermeasure system with radar warning receiver (RWR) and Missile Alert Warning
* Well armoured for a helicopter; may survive hits from SAMs
* Excellent thermals and zoom

'''Cons:'''

* Stinger air-to-air missiles don't turn well, aren't reliable, and don't have enough explosive mass to guarantee a kill upon a hit
* Hellfires are difficult to guide to air targets due to their trajectory
* Easily destroyed by main adversary ([[Ka-50]] & [[Ka-52]]) and enemy aircraft
* 30 mm cannon is relatively inaccurate at range

*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the helicopter in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ah_64a_iaf Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|irF2YOn8zOs|'''AH-64 Apache Ultimate Review''' - ''Bob Dickinson''}}

== See also ==


;[[AH-64 (Family)|Related development]]

* [[AH-64A Peten (USA)]]
* [[AH-64A Peten (Israel)]]

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Israel helicopters}}

Saraph

2023-10-14T16:31:01Z

U17301481: formatting

{{Specs-Card
|code=ah_64d_i_saraph
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Heli-Flight}}

The AH-64D-I Saraph provides great manoeuvrability, incredible acceleration and overall has a great speed of up to 319 km/h in arcade and 295 km/h in realistic and simulator game modes. It is as fast as the American [[AH-64D]] but the title of fastest Apache belongs to the British Army variant called the [[AH Mk.1]]. The IDF AH-64D-I is able to do manoeuvres other helicopters can only dream about, from barrel roles, flips to loops. This allows it to evade enemy missiles with relative ease and surpriseenemy tankers who will be mostly helpless against it.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 1,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
|-
! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 272 || 253 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Heli-Armour}}


The AH-64D-I Apache "Saraph" has only limited armour protection installed, with bullet proof glass only being installed on the pilot windscreen. The helicopter uses Kevlar boron carbide, composite martial which is limited only to instrument, floor and side panels around the cockpit. It does not provide the same level of protection as seen on other helicopters such as the [[Mi-28N]].

*Bullet proof glass installed only for the pilot - 22 mm thick.
*Installation of Kevlar boron carbide, composite martial only on the: Seats, cockpit side panels, Gunner floor panels and pilot instrument panel - 20 mm thick.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Heli-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" |[[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
!CCIP (Guns)!!CCIP (Rockets)!!CCIP (Bombs)
|-
|{{Tick}}||{{Tick}}||{{Cross}}
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Offensive}}

{{main|M230E-1 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon, chin turret (1,200 rpg)
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon + 180 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Suspended}}

{{main|AGM-114K Hellfire II|ATAS (AIM-92)|Hydra-70 M247}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 76 x Hydra-70 M247 rockets
* 4 x AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
* 8 x AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
* 16 x AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
* 4 x ATAS (AIM-92) missiles

==== Custom loadout options ====
{| class="wikitable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
|-
! !! width="7%" | 1 !! width="7%" | 2 !! width="7%" | 3 !! width="7%" | 4 !! width="7%" | 5 !! width="7%" | 6
| rowspan="4" width="20%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_AH-64A_(Israel).png]]</div>
|-
! Hydra-70 M247 rockets
| || 19 || 19 || 19 || 19 ||
|-
! AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
| || 2, 4 || 2, 4 || 2, 4 || 2, 4 ||
|-
! ATAS (AIM-92) missiles
| 2 || || || || || 2
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==

'''Overview'''

The AH-64D-I is an Israeli modified version of the venerable [[AH-64D]] and in turn very similar to the [[AH-64A]] Apache. The differences between it and the A are the lack of an option to carry AIM-9L missiles, the new Longbow radar, improved Hellfires, and an improved ECM package. It is also slightly different to the American D version as it lacks the laser guided APKWS rockets. The Apache is an excellent helicopter for attacking ground targets, and can also hold its own against many enemy aircraft. Through adequate use of cover, teamwork, and game sense, the Apache can easily dismantle enemy teams. An Apache pilot must understand all of the tools at their disposal.

The Apache has an arsenal of weapons. The most effective anti-tank weapon in the Apache's arsenal is the AGM-114 Hellfire, which uses a top attack trajectory to destroy ground vehicles. There is functionally very little difference between the AGM-114B and K variants, used on early and late Apaches respectively.

'''Staying alive:'''

Flying the Apache effectively can be more difficult than most players would imagine, processing information from optical sights, radar displays, and the radar warning receiver all at once can lead to information overload. If distracted by irrelevant information, a pilot can quickly lose situational awareness. Being successful in the Apache requires situational awareness above all else. Due to the fragility of the helicopter, any blindspot can lead to a quick and sudden death. Additionally, the mobility of the Apache is adequate but not impressive, so evasive manoeuvres are not always effective.

Using cover is a very important part of staying alive in the Apache. Always stay behind a hill or building in ground battles. When exposing yourself in order to fire on the enemy, be mindful to not gain too much altitude. Most importantly, always listen to your RWR and MAW. If you hear an alarm, take evasive action immediately.

The biggest improvement of the later Apache variants is the ability to mount the Longbow radar system. This system, if used properly, will help maintain situational awareness.

Additionally, it is important to know when to use flares. Flares are extremely effective against heat-seeking missiles, but useless against any other missiles. It is the responsibility of the Apache pilot to recognize the threat and decide whether to use flares or not. For Apaches with MAW (missile alert warning), there is an option for flares to be dispensed automatically.

'''Using the Longbow radar'''

The radar of the Apache should be used as a secondary tool when engaging ground targets. The radar is not effective in obtaining target lock for ground vehicles. The AGM-114L radar guided Hellfire is not in the game, so guidance of Hellfires should be done by using the FLIR thermal imaging camera to lase targets. However, the radar is still useful in detecting enemy aircraft. By using the multi-function menu to switch radar mode, the radar will begin to search for air rather than ground targets. Keeping track of enemy aircraft is vital to survival in the Apache, as any plane can make quick work of the Apache if the helicopter is unprepared.

'''Air-to-air (Stinger and gun)'''

The Apache is surprisingly potent in air-to-air combat. Engagements should be conducted primarily through the use of the Stinger missile. The Stinger is a simple but effective air-to-air missile. It has an excellent seeker head and can obtain all aspect lock on almost any air target within 3-5 km (even propeller aircraft with a low heat signature). However, the Stinger can be easily fooled by flares or outmanoeuvred by a fast enemy aircraft. The best way to use the Stinger against enemy aircraft is when they are heading directly towards you. If fired at the right second, most enemies will struggle to dodge a Stinger.

If the enemy gets close, the 30 mm autocannon can be extremely effective. The gun will automatically aim with optical lock, so Apache pilots can aim accurately while taking evasive manoeuvres.

'''Close-range air-to-ground (gun and rockets)'''

At close range, the Apache has excellent offensive capability. The 30 mm autocannon is incredibly accurate even at surprisingly far distances. This cannon uses a High Explosive Dual Purpose round that can engage lightly armoured targets. Rocket pods can also be used, with the CCIP computer helping maintain accuracy even at further distances. Be careful when trying to use the Hellfire missile at close range. It can do a direct attack at closer ranges (rather than its usual top attack) but if fired at an odd angle, it may not have time to manoeuvre onto the target if fired at closer ranges.

The problem with trying to engage at close range is that doing so will put the Apache in huge amounts of danger. Enemy tanks will be able to quickly destroy the Apache with their main guns or anti-aircraft machine guns.
[[File:HellfireTrajectory.png|thumb]]
'''Long-range air-to-ground (Hellfire)'''

At longer ranges, the Hellfire missile can be used to full effect. The Hellfire will guide on its target as shown in the attached diagram. This is known as top attack. Being that it takes this path to the enemy target, the Hellfire can take upward of 30 seconds to reach its target at longer ranges. Do not fire at enemies that are about to move to cover, and make sure to fire multiple missiles at once in order to deal maximum damage. Because the Hellfire is laser guided, multiple missiles can be fired at once. They should be fired at intervals of 5-10 seconds, where between missiles the Apache can switch to a new ground target. This will allow for the quick destruction of multiple enemies. This tactic can be incredibly effective. Although the time to target for the most recently fired Hellfire is available on the HUD, pilots will have to keep track of all the missiles they have fired by memory and quick calculations.
[[File:HellfireSequenceDemonstration.mp4|left|frameless]]
Combatting enemy anti-aircraft vehicles can be a challenge. Always remain in cover and move unpredictably in combat. Use the radar warning receiver to obtain the general direction of enemy AA, and then attack with a Hellfire. An effective strategy is to fire a Hellfire, break optical lock to gain cover and avoid counterfire, and then pop back up and get lock again several seconds before the Hellfire hits. This strategy if applied correctly will result in a hit, as the Hellfire is smart enough to begin following the laser designator again once the Apache re-obtains its lock.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

*Excellent ground attack armaments (Hellfire missiles and 30 mm autocannon)
*Excellent air-to-air capability with the Stinger missile and radar
*Adequate speed and manoeuvrability
*Advanced countermeasure system with radar warning receiver (RWR) and Missile Alert Warning
*Longbow radar
*High countermeasure count (x180, built in)

'''Cons:'''

*Hellfire missiles have limited self-guidance abilities from certain positions
*Hellfire missiles need line-of-sight for guidance.
*Easily destroyed by main adversary ([[Ka-50]] & [[Ka-52]]) and enemy aircraft

*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the helicopter in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|irF2YOn8zOs|'''AH-64 Apache Ultimate Review''' - ''Bob Dickinson''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[AH-64 (Family)]]

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Israel helicopters}}

Saraph

2023-10-14T14:50:08Z

U17301481:

{{Specs-Card
|code=ah_64d_i_saraph
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Heli-Flight}}

The AH-64D-I Saraph provides great manoeuvrability, incredible acceleration and overall has a great speed of up to 319 km/h in arcade and 295 km/h in realistic and simulator game modes. It is as fast as the American [[AH-64D]] but the title of fastest Apache belongs to the British Army variant called the [[AH Mk.1]]. The IDF AH-64D-I is able to do manoeuvres other helicopters can only dream about, from barrel roles, flips to loops. This allows it to evade enemy missiles with relative ease and surpriseenemy tankers who will be mostly helpless against it.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 1,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
|-
! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 272 || 253 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Heli-Armour}}


The AH-64D-I Apache "Saraph" has only limited armour protection installed, with bullet proof glass only being installed on the pilot windscreen. The helicopter uses Kevlar boron carbide, composite martial which is limited only to instrument, floor and side panels around the cockpit. It does not provide the same level of protection as seen on other helicopters such as the [[Mi-28N]].

*Bullet proof glass installed only for the pilot - 22 mm thick.
*Installation of Kevlar boron carbide, composite martial only on the: Seats, cockpit side panels, Gunner floor panels and pilot instrument panel - 20 mm thick.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Heli-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" |[[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
!CCIP (Guns)!!CCIP (Rockets)!!CCIP (Bombs)
|-
|{{Tick}}||{{Tick}}||{{Cross}}
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Offensive}}

{{main|M230E-1 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon, chin turret (1,200 rpg)
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon + 180 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Suspended}}

{{main|AGM-114K Hellfire II|ATAS (AIM-92)|Hydra-70 M247}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 76 x Hydra-70 M247 rockets
* 4 x AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
* 8 x AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
* 16 x AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
* 4 x ATAS (AIM-92) missiles

==== Custom loadout options ====
{| class="wikitable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
|-
! !! width="7%" | 1 !! width="7%" | 2 !! width="7%" | 3 !! width="7%" | 4 !! width="7%" | 5 !! width="7%" | 6
| rowspan="4" width="20%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_AH-64A_(Israel).png]]</div>
|-
! Hydra-70 M247 rockets
| || 19 || 19 || 19 || 19 ||
|-
! AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
| || 2, 4 || 2, 4 || 2, 4 || 2, 4 ||
|-
! ATAS (AIM-92) missiles
| 2 || || || || || 2
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==
'''Overview'''

The AH-64D-I is an Israeli modified version of the venerable [[AH-64D]] and in turn very similar to the [[AH-64A]] Apache. The differences between it and the A are the lack of an option to carry AIM-9L missiles, the new Longbow radar, improved Hellfires, and an improved ECM package. It is also slightly different to the American D version as it lacks the laser guided APKWS rockets. The Apache is an excellent helicopter for attacking ground targets, and can also hold its own against many enemy aircraft. Through adequate use of cover, teamwork, and game sense, the Apache can easily dismantle enemy teams. An Apache pilot must understand all of the tools at their disposal.

The Apache has an arsenal of weapons. The most effective anti-tank weapon in the Apache's arsenal is the AGM-114 Hellfire, which uses a top attack trajectory to destroy ground vehicles. There is functionally very little difference between the AGM-114B and K variants, used on early and late Apaches respectively.

'''Staying alive:'''

Flying the Apache effectively can be more difficult than most players would imagine, processing information from optical sights, radar displays, and the radar warning receiver all at once can lead to information overload. If distracted by irrelevant information, a pilot can quickly lose situational awareness. Being successful in the Apache requires situational awareness above all else. Due to the fragility of the helicopter, any blindspot can lead to a quick and sudden death. Additionally, the mobility of the Apache is adequate but not impressive, so evasive manoeuvres are not always effective.

Using cover is a very important part of staying alive in the Apache. Always stay behind a hill or building in ground battles. When exposing yourself in order to fire on the enemy, be mindful to not gain too much altitude. Most importantly, always listen to your RWR and MAW. If you hear an alarm, take evasive action immediately.

The biggest improvement of the later Apache variants is the ability to mount the Longbow radar system. This system, if used properly, will help maintain situational awareness.

Additionally, it is important to know when to use flares. Flares are extremely effective against heat-seeking missiles, but useless against any other missiles. It is the responsibility of the Apache pilot to recognize the threat and decide whether to use flares or not. For Apaches with MAW (missile alert warning), there is an option for flares to be dispensed automatically.

'''Using the Longbow radar'''

The radar of the Apache should be used as a secondary tool when engaging ground targets. The radar is not effective in obtaining target lock for ground vehicles. The AGM-114L radar guided Hellfire is not in the game, so guidance of Hellfires should be done by using the FLIR thermal imaging camera to lase targets. However, the radar is still useful in detecting enemy aircraft. By using the multi-function menu to switch radar mode, the radar will begin to search for air rather than ground targets. Keeping track of enemy aircraft is vital to survival in the Apache, as any plane can make quick work of the Apache if the helicopter is unprepared.

'''Air-to-air (Stinger and gun)'''

The Apache is surprisingly potent in air-to-air combat. Engagements should be conducted primarily through the use of the Stinger missile. The Stinger is a simple but effective air-to-air missile. It has an excellent seeker head and can obtain all aspect lock on almost any air target within 3-5 km (even propeller aircraft with a low heat signature). However, the Stinger can be easily fooled by flares or outmanoeuvred by a fast enemy aircraft. The best way to use the Stinger against enemy aircraft is when they are heading directly towards you. If fired at the right second, most enemies will struggle to dodge a Stinger.

If the enemy gets close, the 30 mm autocannon can be extremely effective. The gun will automatically aim with optical lock, so Apache pilots can aim accurately while taking evasive manoeuvres.

'''Close-range air-to-ground (gun and rockets)'''

At close range, the Apache has excellent offensive capability. The 30 mm autocannon is incredibly accurate even at surprisingly far distances. This cannon uses a High Explosive Dual Purpose round that can engage lightly armoured targets. Rocket pods can also be used, with the CCIP computer helping maintain accuracy even at further distances. Be careful when trying to use the Hellfire missile at close range. It can do a direct attack at closer ranges (rather than its usual top attack) but if fired at an odd angle, it may not have time to manoeuvre onto the target if fired at closer ranges.

The problem with trying to engage at close range is that doing so will put the Apache in huge amounts of danger. Enemy tanks will be able to quickly destroy the Apache with their main guns or anti-aircraft machine guns.
[[File:HellfireTrajectory.png|thumb]]
'''Long-range air-to-ground (Hellfire)'''

At longer ranges, the Hellfire missile can be used to full effect. The Hellfire will guide on its target as shown in the attached diagram. This is known as top attack. Being that it takes this path to the enemy target, the Hellfire can take upward of 30 seconds to reach its target at longer ranges. Do not fire at enemies that are about to move to cover, and make sure to fire multiple missiles at once in order to deal maximum damage. Because the Hellfire is laser guided, multiple missiles can be fired at once. They should be fired at intervals of 5-10 seconds, where between missiles the Apache can switch to a new ground target. This will allow for the quick destruction of multiple enemies. This tactic can be incredibly effective. Although the time to target for the most recently fired Hellfire is available on the HUD, pilots will have to keep track of all the missiles they have fired by memory and quick calculations.
[[File:HellfireSequenceDemonstration.mp4|left|frameless]]
Combatting enemy anti-aircraft vehicles can be a challenge. Always remain in cover and move unpredictably in combat. Use the radar warning receiver to obtain the general direction of enemy AA, and then attack with a Hellfire. An effective strategy is to fire a Hellfire, break optical lock to gain cover and avoid counterfire, and then pop back up and get lock again several seconds before the Hellfire hits. This strategy if applied correctly will result in a hit, as the Hellfire is smart enough to begin following the laser designator again once the Apache re-obtains its lock.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

*Excellent ground attack armaments (Hellfire missiles and 30 mm autocannon)
*Excellent air-to-air capability with the Stinger missile and radar
*Adequate speed and manoeuvrability
*Advanced countermeasure system with radar warning receiver (RWR) and Missile Alert Warning
*Longbow radar
*High countermeasure count (x180, built in)

'''Cons:'''

*Hellfire missiles have limited self-guidance abilities from certain positions
*Hellfire missiles need line-of-sight for guidance.
*Easily destroyed by main adversary ([[Ka-50]] & [[Ka-52]]) and enemy aircraft

*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the helicopter in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|irF2YOn8zOs|'''AH-64 Apache Ultimate Review''' - ''Bob Dickinson''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[AH-64 (Family)]]

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Israel helicopters}}

Saraph

2023-10-14T11:53:13Z

U17301481: Copied over Flight Performance, Survivability and armour, Usage in battles as well as Pros and cons from AH-64D (US) with slight adjustments

{{Specs-Card
|code=ah_64d_i_saraph
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
}}

== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Israeli attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Heli-Flight}}

The AH-64D-I Saraph, provides great manoeuvrability, incredible acceleration and overall providing a great speed of up to 319 km/h in arcade and 295 km/h in realistic and simulator game modes. It is as fast as the American [[AH-64D]] but the title of fastest Apache belongs to the British Army variant called the [[AH Mk.1]]. The IDF AH-64D-I is able to do manoeuvres other helicopters can only dream about, from barrel roles, flips to loops. Which allow it to evade enemy missiles with ease and surprise, poor enemy tankers who will be helpless to defeat it.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 1,000 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
|-
! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 272 || 253 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}}
|-
! Upgraded
| ___ || ___
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Heli-Armour}}


The AH-64D-I Apache "Saraph", has only limited armour protection installed with bullet proof glass only being installed on the pilot windscreen. The helicopter uses Kevlar boron carbide, composite martial which is limited only to instrument, floor and side panels around the cockpit. It does not provide the same level of protection as seen on other helicopters such as the [[Mi-28N]].

*Bullet proof glass installed only for the pilot - 22 mm thick.
*Installation of Kevlar boron carbide, composite martial only on the: Seats, cockpit side panels, Gunner floor panels and pilot instrument panel - 20 mm thick.

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Heli-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" |[[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
!CCIP (Guns)!!CCIP (Rockets)!!CCIP (Bombs)
|-
|{{Tick}}||{{Tick}}||{{Cross}}
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Offensive}}

{{main|M230E-1 (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon, chin turret (1,200 rpg)
** 1 x 30 mm M230E-1 cannon + 180 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Suspended}}

{{main|AGM-114K Hellfire II|ATAS (AIM-92)|Hydra-70 M247}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

* Without load
* 76 x Hydra-70 M247 rockets
* 4 x AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
* 8 x AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
* 16 x AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
* 4 x ATAS (AIM-92) missiles

==== Custom loadout options ====
{| class="wikitable" width="100%" style="text-align:center"
|-
! !! width="7%" | 1 !! width="7%" | 2 !! width="7%" | 3 !! width="7%" | 4 !! width="7%" | 5 !! width="7%" | 6
| rowspan="4" width="20%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_AH-64A_(Israel).png]]</div>
|-
! Hydra-70 M247 rockets
| || 19 || 19 || 19 || 19 ||
|-
! AGM-114K Hellfire II missiles
| || 2, 4 || 2, 4 || 2, 4 || 2, 4 ||
|-
! ATAS (AIM-92) missiles
| 2 || || || || || 2
|-
|}

== Usage in battles ==
'''Overview'''

The AH-64D-I is a Israeli modified version of the venerable [[AH-64D]] and in turn very similar to the [[AH-64A]] Apache. The differences between it and the A are the lack of an option to carry AIM-9L missiles, the new Longbow radar, improved Hellfires, and an improved ECM package. It is also slightly different to the American D version as it lacks the laser guided APKWS rockets. The Apache is an excellent helicopter for attacking ground targets, and can also hold its own against many enemy aircraft. Through adequate use of cover, teamwork, and game sense, the Apache can easily dismantle enemy teams. An Apache pilot must understand all of the tools at their disposal.

The Apache has an arsenal of weapons. The most effective anti-tank weapon in the Apache's arsenal is the AGM-114 Hellfire, which uses a top attack trajectory to destroy ground vehicles. There is functionally very little difference between the AGM-114B and K variants, used on early and late Apaches respectively.

'''Staying alive:'''

Flying the Apache effectively can be more difficult than most players would imagine, processing information from optical sights, radar displays, and the radar warning receiver all at once can lead to information overload. If distracted by irrelevant information, a pilot can quickly lose situational awareness. Being successful in the Apache requires situational awareness above all else. Due to the fragility of the helicopter, any blindspot can lead to a quick and sudden death. Additionally, the mobility of the Apache is adequate but not impressive, so evasive manoeuvres are not always effective.

Using cover is a very important part of staying alive in the Apache. Always stay behind a hill or building in ground battles. When exposing yourself in order to fire on the enemy, be mindful to not gain too much altitude. Most importantly, always listen to your RWR and MAW. If you hear an alarm, take evasive action immediately.

The biggest improvement of the later Apache variants is the ability to mount the Longbow radar system. This system, if used properly, will help maintain situational awareness.

Additionally, it is important to know when to use flares. Flares are extremely effective against heat-seeking missiles, but useless against any other missiles. It is the responsibility of the Apache pilot to recognize the threat and decide whether to use flares or not. For Apaches with MAW (missile alert warning), there is an option for flares to be dispensed automatically.

'''Using the Longbow radar'''

The radar of the Apache should be used as a secondary tool when engaging ground targets. The radar is not effective in obtaining target lock for ground vehicles. The AGM-114L radar guided Hellfire is not in the game, so guidance of Hellfires should be done by using the FLIR thermal imaging camera to lase targets. However, the radar is still useful in detecting enemy aircraft. By using the multi-function menu to switch radar mode, the radar will begin to search for air rather than ground targets. Keeping track of enemy aircraft is vital to survival in the Apache, as any plane can make quick work of the Apache if the helicopter is unprepared.

'''Air-to-air (Stinger and gun)'''

The Apache is surprisingly potent in air-to-air combat. Engagements should be conducted primarily through the use of the Stinger missile. The Stinger is a simple but effective air-to-air missile. It has an excellent seeker head and can obtain all aspect lock on almost any air target within 3-5 km (even propeller aircraft with a low heat signature). However, the Stinger can be easily fooled by flares or outmanoeuvred by a fast enemy aircraft. The best way to use the Stinger against enemy aircraft is when they are heading directly towards you. If fired at the right second, most enemies will struggle to dodge a Stinger.

If the enemy gets close, the 30 mm autocannon can be extremely effective. The gun will automatically aim with optical lock, so Apache pilots can aim accurately while taking evasive manoeuvres.

'''Close-range air-to-ground (gun and rockets)'''

At close range, the Apache has excellent offensive capability. The 30 mm autocannon is incredibly accurate even at surprisingly far distances. This cannon uses a High Explosive Dual Purpose round that can engage lightly armoured targets. Rocket pods can also be used, with the CCIP computer helping maintain accuracy even at further distances. Be careful when trying to use the Hellfire missile at close range. It can do a direct attack at closer ranges (rather than its usual top attack) but if fired at an odd angle, it may not have time to manoeuvre onto the target if fired at closer ranges.

The problem with trying to engage at close range is that doing so will put the Apache in huge amounts of danger. Enemy tanks will be able to quickly destroy the Apache with their main guns or anti-aircraft machine guns.
[[File:HellfireTrajectory.png|thumb]]
'''Long-range air-to-ground (Hellfire)'''

At longer ranges, the Hellfire missile can be used to full effect. The Hellfire will guide on its target as shown in the attached diagram. This is known as top attack. Being that it takes this path to the enemy target, the Hellfire can take upward of 30 seconds to reach its target at longer ranges. Do not fire at enemies that are about to move to cover, and make sure to fire multiple missiles at once in order to deal maximum damage. Because the Hellfire is laser guided, multiple missiles can be fired at once. They should be fired at intervals of 5-10 seconds, where between missiles the Apache can switch to a new ground target. This will allow for the quick destruction of multiple enemies. This tactic can be incredibly effective. Although the time to target for the most recently fired Hellfire is available on the HUD, pilots will have to keep track of all the missiles they have fired by memory and quick calculations.
[[File:HellfireSequenceDemonstration.mp4|left|frameless]]
Combatting enemy anti-aircraft vehicles can be a challenge. Always remain in cover and move unpredictably in combat. Use the radar warning receiver to obtain the general direction of enemy AA, and then attack with a Hellfire. An effective strategy is to fire a Hellfire, break optical lock to gain cover and avoid counterfire, and then pop back up and get lock again several seconds before the Hellfire hits. This strategy if applied correctly will result in a hit, as the Hellfire is smart enough to begin following the laser designator again once the Apache re-obtains its lock.

=== Pros and cons ===

'''Pros:'''

*Excellent ground attack armaments (Hellfire missiles and 30 mm autocannon)
*Excellent air-to-air capability with the Stinger missile and radar
*Adequate speed and manoeuvrability
*Advanced countermeasure system with radar warning receiver (RWR) and Missile Alert Warning
*Longbow radar
*High countermeasure count (x180, built in)

'''Cons:'''

*Hellfire missiles have limited self-guidance abilities from certain positions
*Hellfire missiles need line-of-sight for guidance.
*Easily destroyed by main adversary ([[Ka-50]] & [[Ka-52]]) and enemy aircraft

*

== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the helicopter in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|irF2YOn8zOs|'''AH-64 Apache Ultimate Review''' - ''Bob Dickinson''}}

== See also ==


;Related development

* [[AH-64 (Family)]]

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{Israel helicopters}}

Kfir C.2

2023-10-06T13:48:45Z

U17301481: Added Usage in battles, additional See also links, adjusted Pros and cons

{{About
| about = gift Israeli jet fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
| usage = other versions
| link = Mirage 5 (Family)
}}
{{Specs-Card
|code=kfir_c2
|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.png}}
|market=id50175_kfir_c_2
}}

== Description ==

Based on the [[Nesher]], the Kfir (translates to "Lion Cub") was an Israeli program to improve their existing Mirage fleet with new avionics and the General Electric J79 engine from the [[Kurnass|F-4 Phantom II]]. Compared to the original French SNECMA Atar 9C engine in the Nesher, the J79 engine was shorter and had higher requirements for air flow and operating temperatures, so the modified aircraft holding the J79 had their rear ends redesigned for the shorter engine, with air intakes added or enlarged to accommodate the engine temperatures. The first prototype, under the name Ra'am (for "Thunder") flew on June 4, 1973, and the prototype would be accepted into Israeli Air Force service on April 14, 1975, in the 101 "First Fighter" Squadron as the Kfir C.1. The Kfir C.2 variant was the second production model after complaints that the C.1 had inferior maneuverability compared to the [[Shahak]], which saw the addition of canard (larger than that found on the [[Kfir Canard]]), leading edges on the wing, and small strakes on the nose.

The '''{{Specs|name}}''', introduced into the game in [[Update "Wind of Change"]] as a reward for the [[wt:en/news/7640-event-the-battle-for-arachis-en|"Battle for Arachis"]] event, shares its characteristics with the Mirage 5 lineage as a fighter-bomber, capable of performing in an air-to-air or air-to-ground role with its avionics and flight performance. Air-to-air performance is benefitted by the {{Specs|name}}'s maneuverability, especially its turn rates, to get nose onto target for guns or missiles, though missile availability is hindered to just two IR seeking missiles. For air-to-ground, the {{Specs|name}}'s ability to carry a total of eight 1000 lb bombs allows it to be able to destroy a base in air realistic mode or several armoured ground targets in ground battles. A full suite of [[Ballistic_Computer|ballistic computers allow for CCIP and CCRP]] usage that allows Kfir pilots to get their payload onto target as accurately as possible. The versatility in the Kfir's roles ensures that players are able to use it in response to different combat situations over the course of a match.

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}


{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 10,668 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
|-
! Stock
| 2,304 || 2,254 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.6 || 29.1 || 167.0 || 155.6 || rowspan="2" | 750
|-
! Upgraded
| 2,442 || 2,374 || 25.8 || 27.0 || 245.5 || 204.5
|-
|}

==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="6" | Features
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
|-
| X || X || X || ✓ || X || ✓ 
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
! colspan="7" | Limits
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
|-
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
|-
| 1,460  || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || - || - || - || ~11 || ~4
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
|-
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
|-
| < 920 || < 750 || < 1,460 || -
|-
|}

==== Engine performance ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine
! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
|-
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
|-
| colspan="2" | General Electric J79-GE-17 || 1
| colspan="2" | 7,370 kg || colspan="2" | 287 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Max Gross<br>Weight|Mass of the fully equipped aircraft with heaviest weapons load}}
|-
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 28m fuel
|-
| 1,750 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
| 8,125 kg || 9,152 kg || 9,888 kg || 14,163 kg
|-
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
|-
! Condition || 100% || WEP
! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 28m fuel || MGW
|-
| ''Stationary'' || 5,200 kgf || 8,154 kgf
| 1.00 || 0.89 || 0.82 || 0.58
|-
| ''Optimal'' || 5,366 kgf<br>(1,460 km/h) || 10,978 kgf<br>(1,400 km/h)
| 1.35 || 1.19 || 1.11 || 0.78
|-
|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
|-
! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
|-
| {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}}
|-
|}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}

{{main|DEFA 552A (30 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons, belly-mounted (140 rpg = 280 total)
** 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 36 x countermeasures

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}


The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

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! !! width="6%" | 1 !! width="6%" | 2 !! width="6%" | 3 !! width="6%" | 4 !! width="6%" | 5 !! width="6%" | 6 !! width="6%" | 7
| rowspan="14" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_{{PAGENAME}}.png]]</div>
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! [[GAU-4 (20 mm)|20 mm GAU-4]] cannons (1,200 rpg)
| || 1 || || || || 1 ||
|-
! [[LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|500 lb LDGP Mk 82]] bombs
| || 2, 3 || 2 || 5 || 2 || 2, 3 ||
|-
! [[SAMP Mk 82 250 Snakeye (500 lb)|500 lb SAMP Mk 82 250 Snakeye]] bombs
| || 3 || 2 || 5 || 2 || 3 ||
|-
! [[LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83]] bombs
| || 2 || 2 || || 2 || 2 ||
|-
! [[LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)|2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84]] bombs
| || 1 || || || || 1 ||
|-
! [[M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|750 lb M117 cone 45]] bombs
| || 2, 2 || 2 || || 2 || 2, 2 ||
|-
! [[FFAR Mighty Mouse]] rockets
| || 38 || || || || 38 ||
|-
! [[Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP]] rockets
| || 8 || || || || 8 ||
|-
! [[AIM-9D Sidewinder]] missiles
| 1 || || || || || || 1
|-
! [[AIM-9G Sidewinder]] missiles
| 1 || || || || || || 1
|-
! [[Shafrir 2]] missiles
| 1 || || || || || || 1
|-
! [[Python 3]] missiles
| 1 || || || || || || 1
|-
| colspan="8" | Maximum permissible loadout weight: 4,295 kg<br>Maximum permissible wing load: 1,500 kg
|-
|}

{{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
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* Without load
* 2 x AIM-9D Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x AIM-9G Sidewinder missiles
* 2 x Python 3 missiles
* 2 x Shafrir 2 missiles
* 13 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (6,500 lb total)
* 15 x 500 lb SAMP Mk 82 250 Snakeye bombs (7,500 lb total)
* 8 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (8,000 lb total)
* 8 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x Python 3 missiles (8,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (6,000 lb total)
* 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x Python 3 missiles (6,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x Python 3 missiles (4,000 lb total)
* 2 x 20 mm GAU-4 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total)
* 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
* 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
* 2 x Python 3 missiles + 9 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets (4,500 lb total)
* 2 x Python 3 missiles + 9 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets (4,500 lb total)
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== Usage in battles ==
<blockquote>"A quick assassin, right between the Kfir Canard and Kfir C.7"</blockquote>The Kfir C.2, being a derivative of the [[Mirage 5 (Family)|Mirage family]] and a step between the other Kfirs, it naturally plays rather similar. The J-79 engine and delta wings make it achieve stunning speeds both on the deck and at altitude (up to ~1450 kph IAS), as well as give it great angle of attack (AoA) capability, but employing the latter requires one to slow down below the transsonic regime, not least to not compress and to avoid ripping off the wings. This does however make it drastically bleed speed. It is thus advised to stay fast and employ "hit and run" tactics, preying on unsuspecting enemies with the impressive [[Python 3]] missile, only chosing to turn with an opponent when not faced with a hostile 3rd party capitalizing on your low energy state. Even with such a powerful engine, it takes time to recover the lost speed, and coupled with the delta wing characteristics, getting slow is a gamble to carefully consider and long dogfights should always be avoided. Another thing to keep in mind is the high fuel consumption and low amount of fuel the Kfir can carry into battle (max. 27 minutes).

=== Air Realistic Battles (RB) ===
The Kfir C.2 is a plane that really needs to be played to its strengths to succeed, not least because its drawbacks otherwise end up being fatal. (see above)

There are a few ways to play the Kfir, whether it be darting in and out early on, loitering on the edges to pick off isolated foes or bombing bases; all of them have one thing in common. "speed".

In order to achieve good results, it is generally advisable to stay at a high speed to avoid being an easy target for a missile or a plane slipping onto one for a gunkill. The low countermeasure count only emphasizes this; most missiles can be dealt with via raw speed and shallow turns, leading the missile to turn harder than the plane and losing energy much quicker, until it falls out of the sky. The Kfir is no stranger to altitude and goes even faster up high, but only after the initial phases of the battle it's safe to climb. Radar guided weaponry is rather scarce when facing a downtier, but one should always be careful, as a moment of neglect can turn into a trip to the hangar in no-time.

The Lion Cub excels at both baiting enemies for your team or squadmates, as well as support them in turn. Staying behind an opponent is not recommended, as this usually leaves you slow, tunnel-visioned and generally an easy target for enemies. The excellent missiles it gets are limited to only two, so making them count is essential. Prioritization of high value targets, such as the later mentioned planes, to hit with the potent missiles, if possible, is recommended, as these will prove difficult to deal with later and up close. Always remember your fuel though, it might pay off to not use the afterburner while commuting to the battle.

==== Major Threats ====
Generally speaking, the Kfir can tangle with any foe, only having to fear the likes of the [[F-5E]] and [[F-8E]], as these will usually handle overshooting quite well and climb away whilst the delta winged jet sits below, unable to recover its speed in time. Additionaly, the [[F-8E]] can generally keep up with it and when facing them, one needs extra effort and time to lose them.

By far the biggest threat are 4th generation fighters [<nowiki/>[[F-16 (Family)]], [[MiG-29]], [[F-14 (Family)]], and [[Mirage 2000 (Family)]]], as they outperform the Kfir in more or less every single aspect. They are rarely matched with it, however, in a maximum uptier they can still be encountered in small numbers. The best defence against them is to have your team in vague proximity to help you; outside of that, the Lion Cub can only defend itself for so long, given the opponent does not make any fatal mistakes.

* ''Extra Tip:'' you can turn off your radar-rangefinder by pressing your "radar lock" button. It otherwise warns the enemy, annoys your teammates and is only useful to slave your IR missiles to a target 5-7km in front of you.

=== Pros and cons ===


'''Pros:'''

* Very fast acceleration
* Very high top speed
* Turns tight
* Hard-hitting 30 mm autocannons
* Python 3 missiles have a high G limit, very good range and acceleration
* Versatile suspended armament with ballistic computers

'''Cons:'''

* Only 2 IR air-to-air missiles and no access to SARH missiles
* No flaps
* Below average roll rate
* 30 mm cannons have slow muzzle velocity
* It can rip its wings at high speed and excessive G-loading
* Low countermeasure count (36)

== History ==

===[[wt:en/news/7637-development-battle-for-arachis-kfir-c-2-en|Devblog]]===
Operationally, the Kfir fighters from the first production series revealed a number of flaws in their design, in particular, an increased mass compared to the Mirage, as well as a forward shift in balance due to the greater weight of the suspended weaponry that affected the controllability and turn rate. To eliminate these concerns, the engineers proposed equipping the fighter with canards in the air intake areas, as well as installing aerodynamic ridges to redirect the airstream from the nose and provide a vortex around the canards. A dogtooth appeared on the leading edge of the wing that was intended to increase the lateral stability of the aircraft at high angles of attack. As a result, maneuverability at low speeds increased, and takeoff and landing runs became shorter. In addition, the new Kfir modification also received two additional weapon suspension hardpoints. The modification of the fighter with canards entered service with the Israeli Air Force in 1977 under the designation Kfir C.2, in addition to new machines, most Kfirs from the first production series were upgraded to the C.2 level. Aside from Israel, Kfir C.2 was in service with the armies of Colombia, Ecuador and Sri Lanka.

== Media ==


;Skins

* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=kfir_c2 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]

;Images
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== See also ==


;Related development

* [[Mirage 5 (Family)]]
* [[Kfir Canard]]
* [[Kfir C.7]]

== External links ==


* [[wt:en/news/7637-development-battle-for-arachis-kfir-c-2-en|[Devblog] "Battle for Arachis": Kfir C.2]]

{{Manufacturer IAI}}
{{Israel jet aircraft}}

Mi-24D (Italy)

2023-09-29T18:23:37Z

U17301481: Added Usage in Battles, Pros and Cons, See also

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== Description ==

The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian attack helicopter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Sons of Attila"]].

== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
{{Specs-Heli-Flight}}

''Describe how the helicopter behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="2" | Max speed<br>(km/h at _,___ m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
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! AB !! RB
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! Stock
| ___ || ___ || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}}
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! Upgraded
| ___ || ___
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|}

=== Survivability and armour ===
{{Specs-Heli-Armour}}

''Examine the survivability of the helicopter. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical systems.''

=== Modifications and economy ===
{{Specs-Economy}}

== Armaments ==
{{Specs-Heli-Armaments}}
=== Offensive armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Offensive}}

{{main|YaK-B (12.7 mm)}}

The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:

* A choice between two presets:
** 1 x 12.7 mm YaK-B machine gun (1,470 rpg) + 128 x countermeasures
** 1 x 12.7 mm YaK-B machine gun + 128 x countermeasures + IRCM

=== Suspended armament ===
{{Specs-Heli-Suspended}}

''Describe the helicopter's suspended armament: additional cannons under the winglets, any bombs, and rockets. Since any helicopter is essentially only a platform for suspended weaponry, this section is significant and deserves your special attention. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''

== Usage in battles ==
<blockquote>"Like a bomber with rotor blades".</blockquote>The Mi-24 can take a beating, which allows you to play it in almost every way imaginable. But it is not invulnerable.

As a general rule to increase your survivial rate:

Use your high speed, ballistic computer and hard hitting weapons to deliver a swift blow to the enemy. Don't stick around for longer than necessary.

=== Helicopter PVE (AB | Enduring Confrontation) ===
Arguably the early Mi-24's bread and butter as in this mode it can reach its true potential: the big arsenal of rockets and bombs coupled with a ballistic computer will make quick work of frontlines, convoys and even bases. The unguided muntitions are more than sufficient to deal with tanks; a well placed S-5K salvo will do the job usually. The lethal S-24 rockets and Falanga ATGMs enable the "Hind" to safely dispose of enemy SPAA at a distance with relative ease without compromising its capabilities against soft targets. That's not to say that the Hind cannot brawl against planes though. the chin-mounted 12.7 mm YaK-B rotary gun is able to shred planes with its high firerate and good muzzle velocity, it also boasts excellent penetration values on top of that and will make swiss cheese out of any light tank or SPAA the Mi-24 might encounter. Couple all this pure firepower with a high top speed and you have a very capable and fun platform for this mode.

Some things to keep in mind are the engagement ranges of major enemy threats such as the [[Falcon|"Falcon"]] (3km), [[ZSU-23-4|"Shilka"]] (2.5km) and [[Gepard|"Gepard"]] (3km) SPAAs. Especially the German Gepard with its long, accurate bursts should always be taken care of first as they can engage and easily kill you up to 3km away. They pose a major threat to you and your team, so it is strongly advised that you use your range advantage (in the form of your 4km ATGM) against them. Alternatively you can lay an ambush behind a hill, near a road you suspect they will pass. climb over it and quickly dispose of them with your gun, S-5K or S-24 rockets. The possibilities are endless, so get creative. Just make sure you expose yourself to the SPAA for as short as possible, as the Hind is not very maneuverable and an easy target.

=== Mixed Battles (RB | SB) ===
In both of these modes the player has to pay extra attention, since these are real players this time around. There are a few ways to go about flying the "Krokodil" in mixed battles:

==== Ground Realistic Battles (RB) ====
You have the ability to take the Mi-24D as your first spawn, however, you will not be able to take the ATGMs with you. So if you do decide to take it out early, you will have to get somewhat close, exposing yourself to enemy fire. To combat this, use terrain to mask your approach; here you can make another set of choices:

Fly low, plan your entry and escape routes. Then rush in from your masked approach and rain down accurate S-5K rocket salvos and/or single S-24s. Don't get greedy, strike a target or two and get into cover as quickly as possible. The longer you stay around the enemy, in line of sight, the higher the chance they will target you. Rince and repeat.

If you don't value your life, or simply like high, risk high reward gameplay, you can scratch the "in and out routes" and rush straight to the battlefield. But be aware that this is more expectable and you'll likely encounter main gun fire from MBTs, something not even the Hind can reliably withstand. This works even better with friends sometimes, so don't hesitate to try it with them.

If you decide to earn some spawn points beforehand and spawn it later in the match, you will be able to take the ATGMs with you. Given that you have enough points of course. At this stage in a match, the likehood for there to be SPAAs roaming around or sitting in spawn is considerably higher, so it pays off to stay at a distance with the Falangas first. As with the PVE mode, anti air vehicles pose the biggest threat to you, so they should always be a priority target. Be mindful of enemy planes, ramming scoutdrones and other helicopters as well, they won't hesitate to take a shot at you either.

Enemies are likely to expect you near the helipads, so it is beneficial to move to other areas of the map, not least because your ATGM range wouldn't be sufficient from there anyhow. The Hind is a big helicopter, nevertheless, small forrests, buildings and hills will still be enough to conceal you. It is also advisable to change position after killing a ground vehicle or two; the enemy will know your rough location and could spawn SPAAs to try and deal with you. Once there is no major threat around, or when your guided missiles are depleted, a "rush", similar to above can be viable. The alternative is to RTB for more missiles, but that's up to you to decide.

==== Ground Simulator Battles (SB) ====
In general Simulator Battles will play similar to RB, and the same tactics can be applied; only here you can spawn with ATGMs from the start.

Before joining these battles, it is recommended you get used to the simulator controls first via a test drive or custom battle; enable the control dampening (same button as hover mode) to fly instead of "fighting the helicopter" and crashing on takeoff. You can also switch your sight mode to use the ballistic computer for the rockets (multi function menu -> 6 cockpit -> 7 switch sight mode in cockpit).

Expect the enemy to do the same and to even bring some planes. Know what nations are friendly and which are enemy and know what vehicles are to be expected (you can check in the events tab before joining the que). Making sure what you are about to shoot is important, as there are no markers.

Due to your good speed and armour as well as the fact that there will likely always be one or two helicopters spawned at the start, you can attempt hunting them down; the 12.7mm rotary gun is easy to use and will make short work of anything that flies. Outside of these small extras, you can fly it like you would in Ground Realistic Battles.

=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''

* High top speed

* Extensive payload options
* Ballistic Computer
* Very effective ATGM
* Well armoured against small arms fire
* Rapid-firing rotary gun capable of shredding light armour

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'''Cons:'''

* Sluggish maneuverability at most speeds
* Big size; easy to detect and hit
* No air-to-air missiles
* Limited ATGM range and firing arcs
* No thermal optics, only early NVG

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== History ==

''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the helicopter in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''

== Media ==

''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''

== See also ==

* [[Mi-24 (Family)]]
* [[Mi-24D (USSR)]]

== External links ==

''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''

* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* ''other literature.''

{{AirManufacturer Mil}}
{{Italy helicopters}}